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Top 10 Differences Between The Punisher TV Show and Comics
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The Punisher has been adapted many, many times, but the Netflix series seems to have really found what works about the character, though not without making some changes. These are the biggest differences between the Punisher from the comics and his Netflix series.
List Rank and Entries
#10: The Punisher's Motivations
#9: Karen’s Relationship to Frank
#7: The Spider-Man Connection
#6: Billy Russo Was a Good Friend
#5: Curtis Hoyle
#4: The Punisher's Real Name
#3, #2, #1: ?
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One batch.
Two batch.
Penny and dime.
I'm better for Lori than you Riiiiiiiiiick
The series version of Frank actually seems like he could be a normal person. I also doubt he'll ever become an angel or a Frank-enstein.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache FrankenCastle was terrible lol, I regret reading those comic till this day
Prince Ibrahim what was bad about it?
Biggie Cheese Nothing made sense in it, If you actually see Frank as "FrankenCastle" you'd probably die laughing. He looks retarded, it was just terrible
Prince Ibrahim nah it was great imo.
That was a great deep cut reference. Here’s your “like”.
I dunno?? Frankly... I find a 60 yr old Frank Castle very terrifying. Imagine a near senior citizen Frank Castle with not many years left to live....unnerving.
Sammy Lane then who would play him, my dear ?
Yeah... that is called Punisher MAX. Hit it up, it's the best line of stories about the character, and he is old as fuck by the end.
Sándor In my book, that is Punisher's definitive storyline. It takes place in a world without superheroes (or maybe he somehow don't see them, I dunno) so Frank can really shine. His origin as a warrior stays rooted in Vietnam, probably the most brutal American war in recent times, and we also get all the badass villains like Billy Russo, Finn Cooley, and the beast known as Barracuda. It's probably the richest source of Punisher lore, and the showrunner stated plans to bring Kathryn O'Brien and Barracuda into the series.
Sándor was gonna recommend the same thing. Although. You gotta get through the Nam intro before he really really becomes the punisher.
Frank-ly. Lol. I see what you did there.
I love most of the changes they made, especially making russo a longtime friend of franks and military partner it makes the feud so much deeper and personal
No, that was really boring, Russo had no motive to turn against Frank. And eventually felt sorry for Frank. Billy in the Comics was way better, more dark and ruthless. They didn’t make it work with them being friends.
The Best MCU Netflix Series
UNCLE MAX Nah Daredevil takes the cake. I found Punisher to be kinda boring.
Arc 48 I agree with Daredevil being better but Punisher boring? Did we watch the same show? Lol
The Punisher is Unique thats why its great
Prince Ibrahim Some of the action was good, but I prefer hand to hand combat like in Daredevil. Many episodes felt like filler and slow paced. 2-8 especially. Disregarding those episodes, it was pretty good. I feel like it could’ve been 10 episodes to make it faster paced. I’ve noticed that with Punisher, some find it extremely good, while like me find it kinda boring. I may have to watch it again to refresh my memory.
Prince Ibrahim binged in two days.
John Bernthal = The punisher 💪👍👍
no he is Shane
afart Geraghty Shane is dead
Dimension ID I know but it is to hard to see him as anyone besides Shane
Frank Castle*
NarrowRS yes
JUST finished the first season TODAY! It was pretty darn good!
you're late, but congrats... i watched it the same weekend it came out...
MegaRenegade1000 you must feel so unique
Jonathan D'Haiti agreed.
I also finished it yesterday.
season 2 its meh
Hope to God The Punisher gets Season 2
Cytron1515 it got the greenlight by Netflix and was tweeted to have started production.
mate, the season 2 was announced at the moment we saw fucked up Billy Russo in the hospital.
Cytron1515 season 2 is coming.
Thank God season 2 is coming.
Flying Spaghetti Monster SAYS,
Greenlit Season 2
Deadpool , The Punisher and Ghost Rider are Anti-Heroes.
Michael Brent don't forget spawn
Nathan Minnich we need a spawn remake, with the right director it could be so good
and Daredevil sometimes
I guess Spawn counts but he's not Marvel
Polverine74 not really
I don't expect civilians to know this, but in the comics Frank was an 0311 rifleman in the Marines. Here, not only is he an Officer instead of an enlisted Marine, he's a Force Recon Marine, as opposed to a regular rifleman in the infantry.
In PunisherMAX BORN he's an officer (Cpt.) and a machine-gunner/sniper.
Another noticeable difference is Frank's demeanor when he goes "punishing". Frank in the comics acts like a stoic, silent killer. In the MCU, Frank yells like a maniac.
*AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH*
I know and I love it lmao
Reminds me of that one scene where he chases Billy and starts barking
Its a smart move. I cant see MCU Punisher just shooting people and his face is just 😒
@@kofrixguia7820 I agree. It’d be boring to see him slowly walk around, emotionless while killing. I absolutely love the emotion shown by bernthal
@@rosepetal-ov7vl yass and the screaming makes him a bit more human
If Jon bernthal doesn't get some kind of nomination for best actor I will riot he is too damn good
giftofgab247 you have no idea what your talking about bud. How about you go back to thinking Batman is more complex and “stronger” than the punisher
@giftofgab247 Your knowledge on Marvel stuff are weak. Stfu and get out of here.
@@pokeman2905 you clearly don't understand me
I adore Netflix version of Frank and his relationship with Karen. He seems more human. I'm still hoping they continue with the series.
I actually love both version of them. Specially the Netflix series. It makes him human
The Punisher Comics are better
The garth enis run is phenomanal
Johnny Fountains nah the series is better because it shows a humane side of frank other than the one sided ruthless killer frank we see in the comics. Then again everyone’s entitled to an opinion and that’s mine
giftofgab247 Netflix punisher gives more of a human feel to the character it would be boring to see a dude with no emotions killing dudes and calling it a day
@@whenunutandshekeepsuckin6976 it’s almost like… that’s the point of his character. To be the definition of a serial killer. You aren’t supposed to relate to him. You’re supposed to just fallow along on his one man mission of killing the bad people of the world.
Kingpin = Wilson Fisk
The Purple Man = Kilgrave
Steel Serpent = Davos
Jigsaw = Billy Russo
Cottonmouth = Cornell Stokes
Bushmaster = John McIver
@@pirobomandias diamondback - willis stryker
bullseye - agent poindexter
Kilgrave = Kevin Thompson
I will all ways see him as Shane
Interestingly, Billy "The Beaut" had another different background: in the 2008 movie Punisher War Zone, Billy is a vain mobster who later became Jigsaw.
Well, it might be because it’s him just starting out
The Crimson fucker the last episode of the first season was the showing the stary of scarface
@Johnny Caruthers bruh
The biggest difference is Franks personality
I am surprised no one talks about that. Jon shows too much emotion and is an over actor when it comes to Frank Castle. I kind of hated it
B S yeah, in the show he has one lol
Anyone else realise alot of the changes the Netflix series made are improvements over the original comics?
Shane Bovell the nryflix series didn't even put the russain mofia in it thays why i didn't like it
Nathan Minnich because of your expectations
Nathan Minnich The construction workers steal from some sort of mob, I don't see why they would bother writing them into the show if they weren't going to be important at some point.
Serum They actually are important
Nathan Minnich Russian mafia?, is this the 80's or 90's, lol
What I love about the Netflix Punisher is we see how deep his PTSD is. He's not just a fleshy Robocop; you see how big a toll the war put on his mind and his family being killed pushing him over the edge. He's a badass, but no one you'd ever wanna sit next to on the bus.
i'd rather sit next to frank than next to billy if you get me
Jigsaw is military trained in this. In the comics, he's a thug. Then, he gets his head smashed against a glass window. THEN, he trains himself to Frank's level. Also, he's much bulkier in the comics.
Comic characters in general are bulky.
@@brolyonsome3963 the series actually wasted jigsaw face imo
Re: #1, honestly the Punisher/Micro relationship was arguably the best part of the show. Now, I liked the show overall, but at the same time, I'd be okay if we never saw Frank in the MCU again. His story is over now. Let the man have some peace.
Jigsaw has been born. His story is far from over.
his peace is gone now
Fuck no, that is not the punisher. Why the fuck would anyone get rid of punisher that soon
Punisher in the tv series doesn’t kill his victims as creatively as he does in the comics
Sjono the series Isn't as good as the movies
Sjono the movies he was more strategric and creative
Nathan Minnich and were terrible
It's just the first season. Lol
Most of those deaths on the Comics are Too Brutal to Show On Tv. There’s a Limit to what People Will Accept.
they did a great job adapting my dude frank at least within the constraints of a show and it actually making him into more of a human. i watched 4 times and the clips numerous. that says it all. they sure flipped the switch on season 2 very quickly so im very happy to see where they go from here. shows in good hands. and you couldnt have a better guy playing him than bernthal. loved jane and i think he just suffered from the writing and direction. if he had a chance in his younger days he would have been great to see in something like this aswell. dirty laundry was a good send off.
Punisher and Daredevil movie for the MCU
with a Moon Knight cameo or something I'm up for that
Polverine74 they all work better as netflix series in my opinion.
The Russo brothers, who are directing Infinity War said there are going to be a lot of surprise appearances, so who knows, Frank may kill some of Thanos' army in NYC or something like that.
Diego Alvarez but the Punisher was never apart of the Infinity Gauntlet storyline
Polverine74 I know but it's an example
Best Netflix original series
Jon Bernthal's Punisher in the TV series is the most inaccurate one. He looks nothing like the Punisher, acts NOTHING like him. More like a more violent version of Jason Bourne than The Punisher. Thomas Jane and Ray Stevenson did it better.
Would anyone make fun of THE PUNISHER by calling him Frances??
Sammy Lane Batman might
Hell wolverine
Sabretooth
Kingpin
Dead pool etc might too and since they're all in the same comic verse may be easier for them than Bruce
It's Francis, and yes, someone would.
Deadpool maybe
Not me.
Good Thing I'm Dark Hawk.
I think if Bullseye kills Karen In DDS3 That will be Punisher call back to action and help DD take down Fisk and Bullseye(though not a fan of that romance, it would be a shame on Marvel if they don’t make good use of it)
She's already gotten enough people killed at this point. Her time is due.
TheMasterQuests Eh I can say that for some other characters on television
too true
I dont mind small changes but they never should make what happens to his family something intended to happen. Its the randomness of the violence what makes Frank to realize how the good people are less than dirt to the eyes of the criminals.
At least he ain't wearing a black spandex with white gloves and buccaneer boots
i want to see more of the punisher skull. i would also like for them to showcase what an unstoppable force he is too. he is great in the show but i feel like he takes too big of a beating for a comic book character.
11) In TV show, Punisher has a sensitive side and becomes so tender in the end that he might become a florist or a nurse, unlike the comics.
hes only sensitive for people he cares about, because amy remind him of his daughter. we was still an animal
The punisher is the greatest comic book character of all time don’t @ me
Sam Alam he's really not, not even top 10
Red Son Superman what on the list u made that nobody cares about
Dark Hawk*
Sam Alam you have punisher as your fav character. Don’t talk to anybody about lists nobody cares about
Sam Alam he is up there
but Batman stands very much alone at the top
Sometimes you all eff this up. But you didn't. This is a very good breakdown. The comic is great, but so is the TV show. Kudos.
also, in the 'Punisher Max' series Frank eventually kills Micro.
he betrayed frank and collaborated with the government even though the government was playing micro. micro helps frank through a tough fight with the mafia and the government like old times, but its hinted that micro knew he was going to die by frank...he just wanted a last hurrah. Not gonna lie I didn't continue with the series after that hardest thing to read
Mohd Amerul Aidil
Cuz he was guilty.
@@breadlover302 hey,fake one
The first half of the series started of pretty slow but then it started to pick up and get really good. One of my favorite MCU series
You forgot one: The Punisher doesn't care about hostages. In The Punisher vol 1 #1 a mafia don had a gun to a warden's head threatening to kill him. Frank's literal words were "He dies, you die. There's symmetry in that."
TheAnyfingname That does not mean he does not care, it means whatever you do the Warden there will be severe consequence,so in short it would be wise to keep the Warden alive is what he was indirectly telling him,😒😒😒
LarryBonson so basically he doesn't care.
TheAnyfingname Basically he does care, Frank mentally is never give the villain the leg up. Frank Castle strongly reminding the guy that the hostage is what is keeping you alive, and it would be very stupid for you to kill him, because if he were to die god help you, because you know what my reputation is, so it would wise and in your best interest to keep him alive for your sake, indirectly saying to guy, only some who does not see the full scope would think otherwise,Punisher plays chess not Checkers,😒😒😒
LarryBonson so it's all a trick and by not caring he does care?
+TheAnyfingname Take it this way: Frank is basically saying if he kills the warden Frank isn't gonna kill the Mafia member fast, It's gonna be brutal.
Another key difference is that he’s a loner in the comics, and he believed no other woman could surpass Maria. In season 2, he tries to move on with a single mother. Sure, in the comics he would have a one night stand once in a while. That doesn’t mean that should have been included at the start of season 2!
Watchmojo needs to do a "Washing blood off" top 10. There's a TON of scenes where that happens in a TON of things.
He looks like Leroy Jenkins from buried on black ops 2
They hated that old man so much they shot him through my family. The world went crazy on a summer's day in Central Park, In the time before Uzi's and Beretta's , before nine millimetre popguns ruled the streets. It was a Thompson, like the ones our fathers carried, and I recognized its rattle even as its big, man-stopping forty-fives punched blood and breath from my lungs. I hit the ground besides my daughter. She's been gut-shot, badly, and when she saw the things that boiled and wriggled from her belly the expression on her face was not a little girl's. My wife bled out later on the operating table, her heart a gaping hole her life drained through. Whenever I get careless, that yearning in her eyes creeps up and brings me to my knees. Right then the old man's soldiers started shooting back. My son dropped wordlessly, without a mark on him. I took a breath that cut like glass, spat blood, rose to my knees, picked up the boy and searched in vain for entry wounds. The bullet had entered through his open mouth. That was our picnic in the park. And now every night I go out and make the world sane.
I hope Micro gets the Punisher MAX treatment.
"Are you really gonna beg?"
If punisher was completely accurate to the comics he'd actually be really boring. No emotional ties to anyone or emotion at all isnt that complex of a character.
not really.
@giftofgab247 bro be quiet noone wants your toxic cancerous opinions people (including myself) prefer netflix punisher is that a problem im a kid so i didnt grow up reading comics im 15 so in 2008 comics werent popular where I'm from but i watched cartoons of punisher and didnt like them but i love netflix punisher
@giftofgab247 It was the biggest problem I had with the TV series. Jon was so emotional and drama driven, it took away from the character. The show was good, but The Punisher was the low point in his own show. Jon did a terrible job imo
Why aren't the Netflix Marvel series aware of the events caused by Thanos? The galaxy and universe was in danger! Punisher needs another film. Hope Kevin Fiege is involved, since he was a producer of the 2004 Punisher film.
Punisher Max was thought to be canon. But, since the events of Secret Wars 2015. Every alternate universe is canon and everything interconnects to the main marvel universe since then. 2099 may be the one and real future of the main marvel universe. Since it's introduction in 1939.
I'm just here patiently waiting for the return of kingpin! The actor playing him was born for that role
bestsam2009ify daredevil season 3, he will f**k shit up!
can't wait for Season 2 :)
I think they could've had kept up the series of Punisher fighting criminals and crime organizations.
3:08 I literally just called him “pretty boy” in my mind
This show almost convinces me get a Netflix subscription. :)
I began reading some of the Original Punisher comics and the series by Max Comics after watching the first season. In the comics the character feels more flat. There are some nice gore and some epicand deep moments, but when it comes to the comicbooks, i personally thinks he works better as a character when he teams up with others like Spider Man.
I've always loved the punisher, but Netflix has done an absolutely wonderful upgrade to the character. Its the best part of Netflix lineup at the moment.
You forgot to list number 8 in the description:)
#8 gets a detail wrong. I don’t remember when but the comics have been pretty vague as to which war Frank fought in for some time now. It is correct in that the comics originally had him as a Vietnam vet. However, they have simply said he fought in “A” war in recent years.
It's too bad the show is so boring, This should've been the most exciting series on TV. Instead we have Frank eating cereal and melodrama with side characters.
Garth Ennis's run on Punisher is the quintessential Frank. Violent and focused. Netflix he's a wuss.
Also Punisher is 191 cm in the comics. Movie version is way shorter
Pete castlegione is a free man
Punisher is not a free man
Unfortunately it took 10 episodes before the punishing began. Much too long.
If it was nonstop killing the show would suck and make Frank one dimensional
It took 10 episodes before the skull appeared. The action was always there.
giftofgab247 your not a punisher fan at all if you think franks character is “one dimensional” bro sure his character isn’t as complex as characters like Deadpool or daredevil but still he’s definitely not one dimensional
@@whenunutandshekeepsuckin6976 You're right. Propably he not read most of comicbooks of Punisher.
Piotr Angelus yep
I don't know why people have anything against the punisher, I think they should make another movie with John bernthol as the punisher
Why does Frank look so friendly in the thumbnail while he has all those bruises.
is it crazy that the Netflix series punisher is my favorite? Bernthal is a bad ass
Frank's first appearance was in 1974 but his family died in 1976 according to the headstone shown in this video. He became The Punisher after his family was murdered. This makes no sense.
Spiderman having a different tone than the Punisher have you read Todd McFarlane's Spiderman?
Polverine74 or spider man noir
Biggie Cheese or the Death of Gwen Stacey or Death of Jean DeWolff
Biggie Cheese and any storyline that involves Carnage😐
Or how about the Ultimate Spider-man comics those are really dark.
Polverine74 Kraven’s last hunt
One critique I have with the series is how he dealt with Anvil soldiers. Sure most of the kills were in self defence, but they weren't in on his family's death, or even knew anything about what was going on. They were just hired soldiers who could have thought they were doing a legitimate job.
lol what? when someones trying to kill you with a death squad and all have automatic rifles or smg i doubt you are gonna try take them out in a non lethal way
Frank can do non-lethal if he wants to in the comics, even against people who are trying to kill him.
40 Years! Whoa!
I know everyone hates The Punisher movie (the 2003(4?) One) but one thing they did that I liked that the show and comics did is its not just his wife and kids who are killed but his entire family at their Family Reunion, that was even more sad, that was the only good change though.
As controversial as it seems to say it out loud. But I believe the Netflix Punisher to be the best version of the character. Much richer and rounded. Every change was for the better. But that is just my opinion
No. 1 he got another upgrade - he's in F4 now 😅
Wayne Knight in punisher war zone was a far superior Micro.
He's also not nearly as ruthless as he was in the comics.
They left out the part of the comics where Microchip is killed by a rocket blast.
I kinda hope they don’t do the crossovers. This is really good on its own and I think it would get watered down if the did a crossover with Spider-Man
Jon Bernthal is flipping fantastic as Frank ‼️
Born for it!
The Netflix Frank is a kinder, gentler Punisher.
I'm Here After Watching The Punisher Series on Disney Plus ☺️ I'm watching The Punisher Series on Disney Plus Right Now actually 😁
Just differences that Punisher is way taller in comics and he doesn't really have archenemy because he killed him long ago
i loved the tv show! i think it was the best from all the marvel netflix shows.
It's a good thing the skull is seen more in season 2
Punisher was kinda slow and had some bleh episodes but the actions and character development was awesome
Gotta love this series & cant wait 4 season 2...
I like the show but I just don’t like Bernthal’s look as Punisher. I wish they would’ve tapped Thomas Jane to return. He looks the part and did a fan film awhile back proving he could do merciless Punisher VERY well
Finished the second season in a day lol im crazyyy
Nice thumbnail! 😄
He is a different version of the punisher plus this is before he was doing it for ten years he’s not as cold hearted
There's only one real difference that matters; after DD season 2, this isn't the Punisher. Punisher isn't about government/CIA conspiracy bullshit, he isn't about letting paedophiles live (as he clearly did in season 2), and he isn't about just slobbing around ignoring crime.
They built the character up perfectly in DD season 2. We had the perfect Punisher at the end there, when he started listening to the police scanner and had all the weapons and skull vest. What did they do with this perfect Punisher? They took a couple of minutes at the start of the first episode to show him killing a few gang members from the gangs he was after in DD, and then we saw him literally burn the character away that we had seen him morph into for the whole of DD season 2.
Then what happens? We get two seasons of "Punisher", that clearly isn't Punisher, and finally get him turn into the REAL Punisher right at the end of S2, only to now be waiting for the inevitable cancellation as netflix go with women-only marvel series to push their SJW feminazi agenda.
I can’t help but think of Shane of the walking dead when I see the punisher
The punishers morality for enemies,the pinishers weaponry,the punishers storline,and the show punisher had way too much talking instead of how its supposed to be
Nathan Minnich Talking instead of action
You forgot one difference
The Punisher is bald in the tv series and in the comics he is not bald
What are you talking about???
What??
You are crazy. He's not bald you must be thinking of another show
The TV version ending was hard to watch. The scream still haunts me eugh
Spoder man are you the real one
Spooder man is dead meme
Also for number 1, Micro eventually becomes Frank enemy, and Frank kills him
He doesn't really look like the punisher
The punisher greatness
Comic book frank is far more ruthless
Garth Ennis , Enough said
I just finished season 2 after he kills everyone he does go after bad guys
I waited for this series like paddyfields wait for rain. The Punisher i imagined was:
1. Physically intimidating.
2. Man of few words. (Silence would be more intimidating than growling.)
3. A man who will rain down punishment on the criminal underworld.
4. A man of brilliant strategies and techniques.
What this series gave me was:
1. An puny to average looking Punisher.
2. A man who talked a lot. A. Lot. And moves/shakes too much while talking.
3. A veteran who took on veterans, some or most of whom likely didn't know what their employer was really up to. In this series, they could've taken out Frank Castle and put in any other war veteran and we'd get the same season.
4. A man who walks into firefights where he gets beaten lots of time. And needs lots of saving. Would've died a couple of times in season 1 already if not for his friends.
It's sad when the Punisher appears in the first episode, does his punishing in the first few minutes then leaves us with a man named Frank Castle for the rest of the season.
Just my opinion. And we're just into season 1. So maybe we'll get to see the Punisher in season 2?
Punisher was more of antagonists when he first appeared in Spider-man not a villain,😒😒😒
So bad we'll never see a crossover with the MCU character because they are so different but yet they live in the same universe, so i guess Frank got snapped by Thanos along with the defenders huh
I wish they didn’t cancel the show