Hifiman Arya Organic - Natural, Organic Reproduction From a Planar? - Honest Audiophile Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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A BIG thank you to @intoitreviews for providing the Hifiman Arya Organic for review, much appreciated. Planar headphones aren't known for natural, organic reproduction of tone and timbre; does Hifiman pull it off with the Arya Organic? How does it compare to the Hifiman Arya Stealth?
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00:45 Looks like an Arya
01:35 Box/Stand/Cable
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04:10 Bass
05:37 Mids
06:50 Treble
07:45 Technical Abilities
10:30 vs Arya Stealth
11:55 Conclusion
12:40 Outro
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nice review, very detailed information and sums up my experience with the Hifiman Arya Organic for the last 3 months.
Awesome 👍 Glad you enjoy the Organic.
I've been craving to buy the Arya since its v1 but couldn't afford them back then, but since your sound impressions description of it matches 100% all my favourite things of any headphone I'm now very excited to get my Arya Organic set just tomorrow. My only other Hifiman headphone is the Sundara which I like quite enough but I want something much more exciting and according to most reviewers this is it. So I'm happy I've waited until this new Organic version since it looks like they really tuned it to perfection finally. There is always going to be other reviewers critisizing them but I don't care. I trust on you guys, the ones who love it who are the majority. Can't wait to get my hands on them tomorrow!
Awesome 👍 Look forward to hearing your impressions.
Your impression is on really point with mine, which I listened to a demo unit
Awesome 👍 Glad you enjoyed the Arya Organic. Hope you get to own one at some time.
Love people who can use a language to describe complex things in a way that others can understand with ease.
Got mine some time ago and they sound great, but probably even better after proper burn in
Good to know, thanks for confirming burn-in is needed.
I've had mine around 3 months now - love them. And space to scale with a better amp (currently Topping A30 pro) as funds permit
Awesome 👍 Glad you enjoy the Organic. Yes, they'll scale with different amplification.
What do you mean by the scale??
@@mohammedbazhair2000 in this context, I mean. get better with a better (amp)
@@CheekyFest so . Whats the best dac and amp that make Organic soo beautiful??
@@mohammedbazhair2000 I don't know
At CanJam I was told that the organic has a higher end driver.
Like to hear it more!
On the CanJam system, it was running in a high watt/current amp, which made it sound a little wild and wooly, especially the bass which was unglued a bit dynamically from the rest of the presentation.
Struck me as a detailed fun listen. With a lot of value.
Interesting. Thanks for the first impressions. Hope you get to hear again on a more optimal system.
@@TheHonestAudiophilegreat review :)
Are you adding this to your collection?
How does the Fiio FT5 stack up with the Organic?
@ScottoGrotto FT5 is a little warmer and thicker in the bottom end and not quite as sparkly up top. Tone and timbre is better on the Organic. The Organic is an improvement overall but the FT5 is still a solid headphone in its price range.
If the funds become available I will add the Organic to my collection.
@@TheHonestAudiophilethank you very much for your kind comparison!
Hope the funds become available 🙏
What is your favorite planar headphone so far?
Audeze LCD-5 is my favorite planar.
You're welcome, my pleasure.
Nice review! I'm eyeing on this headphones for a while, got edition xs and I'm really liking it. Will it be noticeable upgrade from xs to organic?
Sorry haven't heard Edition XS
Nice review as always. Did you try the Arya Organic on a DAP (ie the FiiO M11 Plus) and if so... What was your experience with it ?
The DAPs I have are the Sony NW-A105 and Hiby R5 Gen 2. The Sony wasn't powerful enough. The R5 was good balanced output. A desktop powered them better but it was listenable off the R5.
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Received them 1 week ago. I have a Sundara for a 3 years now, Sundara closed for a week, Ananda Nano for a 3 month now and XS for a 1 year. All i can say - Arya Organic is absolutely wonderful thing. It just scales up everything. Tonality, Bass, mids, highs, stage, depth, imaging, seperation,holographics.. and the lovely extra bonus - the drivebility - only 16 OHM by 94 db..This is wow!! All i was waiting from Arya O - is here. Now..i am wonder - what would be the clear steup up from Arya O? I mean - what headphones can deliver more details, more soundstage, more stage depth and even better tonality..What would be the top 3 headphones from your expierence that can provide a clear upgrade from Arya O?
Several headphone could be considered an upgrade in one way or another. The two that I've heard that come to mind that are better in regards to details, stage and tonality are Audeze LCD-5 and STAX SR-009. When you get into the upper ranges of headphones differencea become harder to differentiate and it becomes more about the experience.
ZMF Verite
@pelilin2519 If one is provided or the funds become available, I'd love to review the ZMF Veritas
He1000 Stealth and He1000SE. Believe it or not most people prefer them over the organic and think they even have a better tuning. HE1K Stealth is only 100$ more with better resolution and less fatiguing brigbt treble. Personally i'd say He1000 Stealth, as its the perfect of both worlds of Organics and He100SE and its LESS bright and fatiguing than both with better SubBass.
You should try he1000 stealth. This headphone is most natural sounding planar under 2k
If a HE1000 Stealth is provided to the channel or the funds become available, I'd love opportunity to hear and review them. Thanks for the suggestion.
I brought my Schiit Jotunheim 2 in to my local HiFi shop to listen to the Organic & I was blown away. If they don't make heaphone of the year on somebody's list it should almost be a crime!
Awesomeness 👍
I just received these cans today, and, at the first listening, I have to say that I disagree quite a bit with most reviewers, except maybe Andrew (The Headphone Show). They do need to be burned in, so I may change my evaluation of them down the line.
But my first impressions are that they are extremely and unpleasantly bright. I am in my early 70's, so I was expecting the high end to sound a bit more pleasant, but it is definitely fatiguing, except when listening to very mellow mixes, like jazz.
The mids are quite recessed, more so than older Beyer Dynamic headphones.
The bass does extend deep and low, but lacks punch and definition. It feels a bit flabby. I am a studio engineer/mixer so I understand that my standards a bit high.
I have a pair (brand new) Adam Audio A8H monitors and those are a joy to listen to. I also have Beyer Dynamic DT 177X GO (Massdrop version) and they sound much more natural and balanced in comparison. The mids are way more linear (subjectively) and there's no "smiley curve" feel to them. Bass is also extended, maybe a tad less, but nice and punchy. The high end is bright and transparent, but not overbearing. Those cans are close in character to the A8H monitors. Another pair of cans I have is a Focal Elex, also Massdrop. Those are dynamic, hence very punchy, but lack both treble and bass extension. I could live with the treble but bass is very boxy and subdued.
I did hear Meze Empyrean Elite at a Headphone shop and loved them, but was shocked when I heard the price; don't want to pay that much. So the quest for the "Holy Grail" headphones continues...
Yes, I've been told by inToit Reviews and several in the comments that the Organic take a good bit of burn-in. I didn't hear them straight out of the box as they were loaned.
Thanks for the first impressions. Look forward to hearing impressions after burn-in.
I personally love hifiman’s brighter sound but I feel like there was a lost opportunity here to do something really different and pull back from their house sound a bit and go warmer.
@@mikeg2491 I think the recessed midrange creates more of a problem than the boosted 8kHz region. I'll make a little fixed EQ when I have the time, but as of now, I'm sticking to my Beyer Dynamic DT177X GO cans for a much more natural reproduction. I was hoping to be able to use the Arya Organic as a reference headphone, but no way without EQ correction.
While memories are still fresh, how would it compare to the Fiio FT5?
What interests me the most is whether the difference in the tone and timbre is as great as the difference in price?
FT5 is a little warmer and thicker in the bottom end and not quite as sparkly up top. Tone and timbre is better on the Organic. The Organic is an improvement overall but the FT5 is still a solid headphone in its price range.
Thank you for your review.
Is the Aune s9c a good choice for these headphones?
What dac/amp is worth considering for these headphones?
I liked the Arya Organic on the Aune S9C Pro and loved it on the Mytek Liberty DAC ii.
@@TheHonestAudiophile
Thank you for your answer, and if I still add Aune S17Pro with DAC( s9c or Eversolo Z8, or Topinh A70) to the set, would you still choose Mytek?
I've not heard the Eversolo. Yes Id take the Mytek over any of the Topping A90 variants.
The S17 Pro is an excellent amp that pairs well with the S9C Pro and sounds great with the Arya Organic.
But the Mytek Liberty DAC ii and Mytek Liberty HPA are my reference setup and I prefer it over the Aune.
Any suggestions on a amp dac setup? I have the sundara and a pocket size Amp/Dac from Creative called the sound blaster G6. I love how the Sundara sounds, but I'm thinking about upgrading my Amp/Dac for future headphones, what don you think would compliment the Sundara or planars the best, cause I think I love the planar sound more, the speed, punchy bass and strong when it needs to be, and how big the sound is.
I have my old DT1990 on the shelf and won't touch it for a long time, sounds so lifeless by comparison.
What would the budget be? Do you want seperate DAC and amp or an all-in-one?
Glad you enjoy the Hifiman Sundara.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I have a budget of 500, both are fine.
@shaggings Fiio K9 AKM (review coming soon)
I have a pair of your beloved Empys. I traded a pair of HE1000 Stealths IOT acquire them. I think it was a good trade due to the richer mids and toned down highs which could be metalic on the HE1000 Stealths. What is your thoughts on the Organics vs the Empys? Thank you.
Hmm I've not heard the Empy in over a year. But I had some good memories with them. If my memory serves me correctly the Organic is more open and airy, has a little less bass impact, is a little more elevated in the mids and treble, has a tad more sparkle and energy but is better detailed, resolving. The Organic is leaning to neutral, analytical and the Empy is more neutral, relaxed.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Thank you for your impressions!
My pleasure, you're welcome
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Thank you Dave.
I only have the Drop 8xx variant. The Organic has more note weight, isn't as forward in the mids and treble and the stage isn't as wide.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Thank you, Dave. I guess i´ll stay by my HD800 then, cause trading more note weight for the lovely mids and wide stage from the HD800, seems a bad deal 4 me. ^^
Glad you enjoy the 800. I like them too.
The problem with my ex Arya SE is how dry and thin vocal songs out of this headphone. It is a true masterpiece when listening to classic but any song with vocals are dry and thin. I wonder is it still the same with the organic?
Planar tend to have a bit of dryness to their presentation but I find the Organic to not be as dry as the other Arya variants.
which dac are you using?
@emanueleasr2859 Mytek Liberty DAC ii
I got my Organics about 2 weeks ago. I was really looking forward into finally having a set of “end game” headphones at least in the sub $1500 range. I’m coming from a pair of Dan Clark Aeon X (Open) & I was very underwhelmed by the Arya Organic’s & didn’t feel they were $500+ more in overall sound than my DC Aeon X’s so I resold the Organics. With all they hype the Organic’s received & all the time I research I did with them I thought for sure I’d be totally in love with these headphones but nope! PS my amp is the THX 789
Sorry you didn't enjoy the Organic. Can I ask specifically what you didn't enjoy?
@@TheHonestAudiophile It’s not really that I didn’t “like” them. But a few things were I noticed I had to constantly adjust volume on my source unit or amp. This also the first time I’ve run into a set of headphones that were “too big” for my head? LOL! Constantly felt like I had to adjust the band & the notches were soft so they would always move or “click” larger after a few minutes. In the end I wanted a pair of headphones that would make me want to revisit my music catalog & these didn’t do it. In the end I think it has more to do with my ear “pinna” I’ve been researching more about this & I actually enjoy IEM’s more like my Variations. I don’t even really listen to my Dan Clark’s as much since I got my Variations. So in the end I don’t believe there’s anything wrong with the Organics, they just aren’t for me?
@1988remixx I understand
You need to try the He1000 Stealth then! You're missing out haha
Please tell if they are nearly comparable with austrian audio hi-x65 in detalization / separation?
Sorry, haven't heard Austrian Audio HI-X65.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Please do if you have a chance! :)
I was so hyped to try these out and demo them. Things were ok until I used my test tracks for acoustic instruments, and I they started to sound metallic and overly bright. Maybe eq would help, but I didn't expect that to happen.
I've been told that the Organic takes a lot of time to break-in. I can't confirm because the pair I reviewed was loaned and had about 50 plus hours of playtime. But I've been told that prior to break-in they sound bright, aggressive and somewhat metallic.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I know for a fact it is my brain burn in probably at play, as I use my 800s/HD600s with a hybrid tube source, but even on solid state they sound more natural to me. Too bad, but on the other hand I am saving a lot of money.
Glad you enjoy the 800s and 600. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I bought the Organic and the first impressions weren't the best. I can confirm that they have changed a lot after more than a week of burning. I noticed it especially in the bass and treble
@@p.a8741 on a rig or wearing them?
Hi! And how does Arya Organic sound compared to Verum? I have Verum, I really like its sound. Will Arya be an upgrade? How many percent is it better, if yes. I will be very grateful for the answer!
I haven't heard the Verum or Organic since I reviewed them both. Going off memory, the Organic is more detailed, resolving, slightly less width but better depth and layering, little more note weight, fairly even on tone and timbre.
Thanks!@@TheHonestAudiophile
My pleasure, you're welcome
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Please Please PLEASE review HE1000 Stealth!!!!!
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I've been watching your reviews for years now you have great reviews. I have a strong feeling you'll like the he1000 stealth Over the Organics and he1000se I think it's the best of both worlds with slightly less fatiguing treble than both. Looking forward to it! Also if you do review them please do a big comparison with the Organic. :)
I don't have the Organic in house, had to return as it was a loaner from inToit Reviews. Thanks for the thoughts on the HE1k Stealth.
These over 109 pro, and is it even close? Or is it apples to oranges since it's a planar? How do they do on a tube amp?
Organic is more detailed, resolving, larger stage width, deeper stage, better imaging. 109 Pro is out classed by the Arya Organic.
The Arya Organic was good off the xDuoo TA-22 tube hybrid. I didn't try it off my Tor Audio Roger as that struggles with planar headphones.
@@TheHonestAudiophile
Thank you! I'm planning my next move in this hobby/addiction, ha ha. Happy Holidays !!
@isadorealire5722 Look forward to hearing about your choice. Happy Holidays!
@TheHonestAudiophile
Aria O is on its way. I just don't trust the reviewers that dump all over the 660S, i guess my ears don't line up with their graphs. 🤣
Thanks for the "coach 'em up.
Ахуительно рассказал! 🙂
My ONLY complaint with this headset is, like the Stealth, the synthetic headband. After a lot of extended use it will start to wear and chip off leaving little black specs on your head/desk. I really wish at this price point they would include the leather band from the HE1000s.
Interesting. I've not had any issues with the headband on my Arya Stealth, Ananda or Sundara.
LCD-X vs Arya Organic?
Been a good while since I heard a LCD-X. If memory serves me correctly, the LCD-X is warmer, less forward in the uppers and treble, isn't as wide and deep in stage, similar imaging, Organic has slight advantage with details and resolution.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Thanks for replying, I have asked you similar questions before and I really appreciate your input. I have 2021 LCD-X, Focal Clear OG and Sennheiser HD650, I guess I was looking for something with sound stage, to compliment the others. Its confusing because folks say the Edition XS sounds similar to the Arya V3, then other channels say the Arya Organic is just a barely upgraded V3 with more treble and that some folks do not like the higher treble peaks. Hifiman makes this all very confusing.
@Rayman30 yes it can be confusing for sure
Hey ive compared XS and Arya Stealth id agree with them about the Edition XS sounding very close to the Arya SE but with less thinness to the sound. The Arya SE definitely have better details and imaging than the XS but not by much. If i were you id highly recommend looking at the He1000 Stealth as many people view it as a slight upgrade to Arya Organic and extremely close to He1000SE but while having smother/less bright treble than both @@Rayman30
@@Rayman30i also own LCD-X 2021, a Focal Elegia with better pads (sold my clear as I didnt like it much) and a HD600/HD650 and love them. Hifiman is definitely a bigger soundstage and perfect compliment to those headphones. I got my XS for 270$ in perfect condition on ebay lol IMO no reason for me to get a Arya Stealth/Organic. Like i said in my other comment i'd say go for HE1000 Stealth!!! He1000Se IS the better headphone with more detail but it costs a bit more, has too much fatiguing treble like Organic, and is a Small improvement over HE1K Stealth.
To bright for me.
Interesting. I don't find them to be bright at all. I have heard that out of the box they are bright and aggressive but with break-in they settle down; can't confirm because I reviewed a loaned unit.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I don't find them bright at all, I begin to think that people getting a little bit to picky on forums, and Im really sensitive to brightness so clearly it is the wrong or wright equipment