Great video! Thanks for all the tips. I have lusted after an Accuphase for some time now but the price is insane! Nothing can be that good. Even an approximation is welcome at this stage. Will definitely consider this. I have other Chinese-built audio components and I'll put them up against ANY domestic products at several times the price.
Sejarah 5000 thn kami mengajarkan untuk yang baik dan berguna untuk orang banyak bukan individu tidak perlu malu belajar dari manapun itu. 1. Meniru 2 . Menyempurnakan 3. Inovasi. Jalankan sajah langkahmu itu semua akan baik baik sajah.
Why pointless? is a discussion about taking a leap of faith not instructive? There are more people who doubting to take the risk of buying a unknown device, with no reviews at all....A video like this can give them more insight...Also because some real buyers will eventual give their opinion....Nothing in live is pointless. Although a discussion of why we are breathing looks pointless, live would be impossible without it. From a drop of water a ocean can arise....When you can't think outside the box you will probably stick in it the rest of your live...Pointless are those who can only place question marks without even ever thinking about the problems them-self. Sometimes there is no answer to a question and you should try to find the answer yourself...So stop using the word pointless, I do my best to make these video's.....It doesn't really stimulate me when people believe what I do is pointless.
the problem is to buy on Taobao. This website is for chinese people whose retail stuff on ebay and other websites. Normally they refuse to sell stuff to foreign people.
For the money you get a real value at Weiliang! You are constantly comparing data and photos, what if you bought a Weilinag and then took an honest test? I myself have been selling high-end products in a shop for almost 20 years, including Accuphase. Now I also have equipment from Jungson (China) at home and it's amazing what is being built there for the money. I am a collector of hi-fi devices and therefore know that the device should be compared to the cost.
Why pointless? is a discussion about taking a leap of faith not instructive? There are more people who doubting to take the risk of buying a unknown device, with no reviews at all....A video like this can give them more insight...Also because some real buyers will eventual give their opinion....Nothing in live is pointless. Although a discussion of why we are breathing looks pointless, live would be impossible without it. From a drop of water a ocean can arise....When you can't think outside the box you will probably stick in it the rest of your live...Pointless are those who can only place question marks without even ever thinking about the problems them-self. Sometimes there is no answer to a question and you should try to find the answer yourself...So stop using the word pointless, I do my best to make these video's.....It doesn't really stimulate me when people believe what I do is pointless.
vintage stereo you don’t test anything. You just talk about somebody who said.... something.... and a lot of typical Western European arrogance that things from China must be bad. I repeat. Without actually being able to hear the device you should not make any judgment at all. I am German and live in Spain. And I grown tired of the arrogance from so called first industrial countries. I own audio physics Avanti speakers and I paired them to high end amplifier as well as not so known brands and I can tell you, you might get surprised very often. I had Krell Accuphase and a old McIntosh amplifier and yes, they sound great but also do not justify the price. I am very active in lots of groups about done building and programming and I would never give my opinion about something I did not try.
For this money, I rather get a very real top of the line 70s Marantz receiver. A fake will always be a fake, no matter how good you fake it. You don't collect fakes, you don't admire them, they are just there to pretend.
For the money you could not buy a vintage receiver like the Marantz or Sansui, you are looking at $5,000us + unless you are reffering to their budget line. Also note that most Int manufactures inc high end are now made in China.
@@cruise2023 5 years ago you could! The vinyl revival has made prices of vintage gear go sky rocketing Still, 1250 USD will get you a late 70s UPER MID segment receiver or Amp, not a budget! Budget 70s like a Marantz 2238 will start from 250 USD. A Pioneer SX 450 will start from 150 USD. I still take those 2 over a fake.
I just think the title is misleading. Using versus in a you tube video suggests a comparison of sorts. All you are showing is that someone in China makes replica hi-end amps.
If i want to machine front plate like this in my country i will pay 500-600 usd for precision like that...without elements...only front plate! cnc machining, sanding or glassing, engrawing and hard to match color like this!!! China have cheap cnc and laser machines and cheap components and viola....great amp for 1250 usd is here.....I really doubt that original worth 12 000 and we know that.....
btw.....amp look inside really serious and quality...boards and components looks top.....we really dont know if original Accu made some components in china and why not....for amp like this you must have big industrial machines...quality aluminium, wather jet cutters, cnc or 3d cnc machines, finishing, colouring eluxing in baths.....one front plate is work for several days and china is ideal for Accuphase and others for job like that.....
why exist fantastic amp for 1200 usd? China produces 80% of everything for everyone and if someone think that Accu or Krell dont have chinese components in original form that person live in illusion...
@@xfilesfoxisdead7979 A friend of mine bought a $300 MBL preamp clone, as temp, while he shopped for a replacement for his blown up CJ preamp. It sound so good, he's debating whether he needs to replace it. Does it sound as good as an actual MBL preamp? Most assuredly not. But for a small fraction of the price of the original, it sure sounds like a high percentage of the original. Don't though all Chinese clones in the same basket.
true but that should not stop us from talking about it. It's there, I discovered it just recent and I am curious. until now I didn't saw one thing I would really want to have. For me the A class should be limited to a maximum of 2x20w ore a switch A/B class. A 2 times 20w A class use about 75 watt electricity and that's reasonable, everything above that is to much for me.
Agreed, Andrew. I'd like to learn too, that's why I'm here and I like your videos. Just for me, if it isn't authentic, it's not worth a plug nickel. BTW, don't discount a 150 WPC or so class A Krell or other higher powered amp. You might not think so, but your Cantons would like it, especially in the bass. I know it burns a lot of electricity, but it sounds incredible.
Krell is out of my financial range, it's expensive to buy and... I only watch tv when there is soccer or another sports game on, the rest of the day my stereo is on. Modern tv's use 60w power so very cheap. A normal amplifier use between 50 and 70w. A small A class( 20W a channel) also use that same amount but a krell would cost so much more in energy costs. In 3 years the krell or any other heavy A class amp would cost me $3000 extra energy....for that amount I can buy very good second hand speakers what will make up the difference in sound over the combination krell and the speakers I have now. If you are not rich you have to make choices. It's different when your stereo is only playing 1 or 2 hours a day, you would not feel the extra energy costs of a A class then. But when a stereo play 10 hours a day you will have a very high energy bill. Of course I am looking for the best sound but the trick is to do it as cheap as possible, It's not that difficult to have the perfect sound when you can invest a lot of money and the energy bill doesn't matter..... By placing these chinese video's online I also trigger the buyers to react. They are sold in china but china doesn't have youtube so it's waiting for a buyer outside china who can give on one or maybe more his conclusion. I also don't understand why most brands don't do their best to lower the energy costs.Only the last years companies try to make their amps more economical by using high voltage end gains...I can't pay newer stuff and the old stuff is to expensive in energy use. Krell evo 402 use 350w in standby!!!! who wants a device like that? i calculate euro 674 a year only for the costs in stand by mode If i save that amount for 4 years i can buy myself very nice speakers.....the 674 is only the electricity costs, There is also a VAT from 21% over that amount so in total euro 816... only for the stand b modus a year!!!!!! just crazy
I’m going to offer one more thought, then I’m done on this topic. The wonderful thing about this hobby of audio is that everybody can have what they want. For you, energy efficiency is obviously important. For another person, maybe not so much. Within the parameter of getting the sound you want to hear, the variations of equipment choice are almost infinite. All I meant to suggest was that there are reasons that folks buy big, heavy, inefficient, heat-belching high-powered class A amps, and that is that they like the sound.
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The thing sounds amazing! and looks amazing from the inside, I think this dude is serious on making good quality amps.
how do you know about the sound?
@@dannythomson8123 from the video
Great video! Thanks for all the tips. I have lusted after an Accuphase for some time now but the price is insane! Nothing can be that good. Even an approximation is welcome at this stage. Will definitely consider this. I have other Chinese-built audio components and I'll put them up against ANY domestic products at several times the price.
yea i got the fm300a clone recommend by the german youtuber, and it sounded real good
@@MasterofPlay7 thanks for the comment! could you share the link of the german youtuber? I'm thinking to buy an accu DIY amplifier.
The fake Accuphase has more components than the original
Sejarah 5000 thn kami mengajarkan untuk yang baik dan berguna untuk orang banyak bukan individu tidak perlu malu belajar dari manapun itu.
1. Meniru 2 . Menyempurnakan 3. Inovasi. Jalankan sajah langkahmu itu semua akan baik baik sajah.
I was hoping to see a real review on the fake accuphase but instead i ended up watching a pointless video based on comments of internet pictures.
Why pointless? is a discussion about taking a leap of faith not instructive? There are more people who doubting to take the risk of buying a unknown device, with no reviews at all....A video like this can give them more insight...Also because some real buyers will eventual give their opinion....Nothing in live is pointless. Although a discussion of why we are breathing looks pointless, live would be impossible without it. From a drop of water a ocean can arise....When you can't think outside the box you will probably stick in it the rest of your live...Pointless are those who can only place question marks without even ever thinking about the problems them-self. Sometimes there is no answer to a question and you should try to find the answer yourself...So stop using the word pointless, I do my best to make these video's.....It doesn't really stimulate me when people believe what I do is pointless.
When we you buy one and really do review
did you even listen to either amp?
the problem is to buy on Taobao. This website is for chinese people whose retail stuff on ebay and other websites. Normally they refuse to sell stuff to foreign people.
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For the money you get a real value at Weiliang! You are constantly comparing data and photos, what if you bought a Weilinag and then took an honest test? I myself have been selling high-end products in a shop for almost 20 years, including Accuphase. Now I also have equipment from Jungson (China) at home and it's amazing what is being built there for the money. I am a collector of hi-fi devices and therefore know that the device should be compared to the cost.
Is junsong better than weilang amps?
Hello, is Transaudio and Breeze Audio the same company as Weiliang?
@@jm-vq4cm when you will see the price and the weight of the Jungson amps, you will know this.
@@jm-vq4cm I dont think so.
Totally agree with other comments. Don’t judge on other people talking. Get it , test it and then you can give your opinion.
Pointless video at all
Why pointless? is a discussion about taking a leap of faith not instructive? There are more people who doubting to take the risk of buying a unknown device, with no reviews at all....A video like this can give them more insight...Also because some real buyers will eventual give their opinion....Nothing in live is pointless. Although a discussion of why we are breathing looks pointless, live would be impossible without it. From a drop of water a ocean can arise....When you can't think outside the box you will probably stick in it the rest of your live...Pointless are those who can only place question marks without even ever thinking about the problems them-self. Sometimes there is no answer to a question and you should try to find the answer yourself...So stop using the word pointless, I do my best to make these video's.....It doesn't really stimulate me when people believe what I do is pointless.
vintage stereo you don’t test anything. You just talk about somebody who said.... something.... and a lot of typical Western European arrogance that things from China must be bad. I repeat. Without actually being able to hear the device you should not make any judgment at all.
I am German and live in Spain. And I grown tired of the arrogance from so called first industrial countries. I own audio physics Avanti speakers and I paired them to high end amplifier as well as not so known brands and I can tell you, you might get surprised very often. I had Krell Accuphase and a old McIntosh amplifier and yes, they sound great but also do not justify the price.
I am very active in lots of groups about done building and programming and I would never give my opinion about something I did not try.
Is it possible to provide a listening review?
of course not, he's Dutch
Probably fake or subpar components inside too.
For this money, I rather get a very real top of the line 70s Marantz receiver. A fake will always be a fake, no matter how good you fake it. You don't collect fakes, you don't admire them, they are just there to pretend.
For the money you could not buy a vintage receiver like the Marantz or Sansui, you are looking at $5,000us + unless you are reffering to their budget line. Also note that most Int manufactures inc high end are now made in China.
@@cruise2023 5 years ago you could! The vinyl revival has made prices of vintage gear go sky rocketing
Still, 1250 USD will get you a late 70s UPER MID segment receiver or Amp, not a budget! Budget 70s like a Marantz 2238 will start from 250 USD. A Pioneer SX 450 will start from 150 USD. I still take those 2 over a fake.
What was the point of this video? We want to know how good they are!
think and you should be able to find the answer yourself
I just think the title is misleading. Using versus in a you tube video suggests a comparison of sorts. All you are showing is that someone in China makes replica hi-end amps.
Great info. It would be good to hear from someone who has this.
vintage stereo.. be carefull in advertising piracy products.. google is with a strong cencorship nowadays.. and can shut down a couple of vids..
This "thing" use BJT transistors and rather high rails voltage so I suspect it's working in class AB not even close to Accuphase E-600...
Talk about shengya amplifiers
How cares for the Fake look! ! Whats more importend will it sound good ? Or is a 50,- Euro used cheap Sony Sterio Receiver much better sounding !
If i want to machine front plate like this in my country i will pay 500-600 usd for precision like that...without elements...only front plate! cnc machining, sanding or glassing, engrawing and hard to match color like this!!! China have cheap cnc and laser machines and cheap components and viola....great amp for 1250 usd is here.....I really doubt that original worth 12 000 and we know that.....
btw.....amp look inside really serious and quality...boards and components looks top.....we really dont know if original Accu made some components in china and why not....for amp like this you must have big industrial machines...quality aluminium, wather jet cutters, cnc or 3d cnc machines, finishing, colouring eluxing in baths.....one front plate is work for several days and china is ideal for Accuphase and others for job like that.....
why exist fantastic amp for 1200 usd? China produces 80% of everything for everyone and if someone think that Accu or Krell dont have chinese components in original form that person live in illusion...
Les imitations sont interdites et punies par la loi
si vous les produisez, mais pas si vous en possédez un
The fake doesn't even have a DAC with digital optical and coax like the original. LOL!
it also doesn't have the remote..... they only copied the stuff what was easy, the hard part they skipped.
I'll stick with my 45 year old Sansui receiver!
next time start with the conclusion
Please get back to the vintage 70s stereo stuff. I don't understand your interest in this Chinese junk.
curiosity.......what if some of these thing actually also sound very good?
remember the time when the first toyotas came in america..... everybody thought it was junk.....
vintage stereo stuff from China is junk. Id rather buy something made in japan than fake China accu
@@xfilesfoxisdead7979 Not everything is junk.Watch this beauty; ruclips.net/video/wGPv9DrbWzA/видео.html
@@xfilesfoxisdead7979 A friend of mine bought a $300 MBL preamp clone, as temp, while he shopped for a replacement for his blown up CJ preamp.
It sound so good, he's debating whether he needs to replace it. Does it sound as good as an actual MBL preamp? Most assuredly not. But for a small fraction of the price of the original, it sure sounds like a high percentage of the original.
Don't though all Chinese clones in the same basket.
Andrew, it's only ever going to be a copy of an old Accuphase.
true but that should not stop us from talking about it. It's there, I discovered it just recent and I am curious. until now I didn't saw one thing I would really want to have. For me the A class should be limited to a maximum of 2x20w ore a switch A/B class. A 2 times 20w A class use about 75 watt electricity and that's reasonable, everything above that is to much for me.
Agreed, Andrew. I'd like to learn too, that's why I'm here and I like your videos. Just for me, if it isn't authentic, it's not worth a plug nickel. BTW, don't discount a 150 WPC or so class A Krell or other higher powered amp. You might not think so, but your Cantons would like it, especially in the bass. I know it burns a lot of electricity, but it sounds incredible.
Krell is out of my financial range, it's expensive to buy and... I only watch tv when there is soccer or another sports game on, the rest of the day my stereo is on. Modern tv's use 60w power so very cheap. A normal amplifier use between 50 and 70w. A small A class( 20W a channel) also use that same amount but a krell would cost so much more in energy costs. In 3 years the krell or any other heavy A class amp would cost me $3000 extra energy....for that amount I can buy very good second hand speakers what will make up the difference in sound over the combination krell and the speakers I have now. If you are not rich you have to make choices. It's different when your stereo is only playing 1 or 2 hours a day, you would not feel the extra energy costs of a A class then. But when a stereo play 10 hours a day you will have a very high energy bill. Of course I am looking for the best sound but the trick is to do it as cheap as possible, It's not that difficult to have the perfect sound when you can invest a lot of money and the energy bill doesn't matter..... By placing these chinese video's online I also trigger the buyers to react. They are sold in china but china doesn't have youtube so it's waiting for a buyer outside china who can give on one or maybe more his conclusion. I also don't understand why most brands don't do their best to lower the energy costs.Only the last years companies try to make their amps more economical by using high voltage end gains...I can't pay newer stuff and the old stuff is to expensive in energy use. Krell evo 402 use 350w in standby!!!! who wants a device like that? i calculate euro 674 a year only for the costs in stand by mode If i save that amount for 4 years i can buy myself very nice speakers.....the 674 is only the electricity costs, There is also a VAT from 21% over that amount so in total euro 816... only for the stand b modus a year!!!!!! just crazy
I’m going to offer one more thought, then I’m done on this topic. The wonderful thing about this hobby of audio is that everybody can have what they want. For you, energy efficiency is obviously important. For another person, maybe not so much. Within the parameter of getting the sound you want to hear, the variations of equipment choice are almost infinite. All I meant to suggest was that there are reasons that folks buy big, heavy, inefficient, heat-belching high-powered class A amps, and that is that they like the sound.
They do it with expensive cars too. It is imitation and rubbish
We will never know if the copy sounds as good as the original. This video is useless. Just a video to make clicks and earn money.