To be fair, Puckett's career was ended abruptly in his near-prime by his vision problems. Those were not normal end-of-career numbers. Puckett got something of a deserved mulligan.
I have no issue with him being in, but if he gets the injury mulligan, certainly Don Mattingly should get it as well. And even more so for Thurman Munson.
Andrew McCutchen won’t be first ballot, but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t make it in. He essentially exemplifies what the voters look for, even if he’ll retire right at about a 50 WAR
70 WAR is pretty consistent with making the HOF, so even I as a Mets fan kinda slept on Lindor, who is at 43 WAR entering his age 30 season. Carlos Correa is right behind him at 41 WAR entering his age 29 season. Both are pacing pretty well
Just curious where would you put a guy like Corey Seager on this list? I feel like he truly can’t be too far off the “just be consistent the rest of your career and you’re in” tier
I think he has to be at least have another 3 dominant seasons. He’s only really had 3 (4 including 2020) full seasons out of 8 years. He’d be sure fire first ballot if he were healthy but adding that “if healthy” designation hurts his case. I think his case is similar to deGrom. They’re both elite, arguably the best at their position, but they have had so many injuries across their careers that has limited the playing time. This certainly has hurt the counting stats that voters look for. I think both of them need a few more years of being elite to solidify their cases. Time will tell and I hope they can kick the injury bug and finish on a strong note.
I think without deGrom, the rangers wouldn’t have even made it to the postseason. He only had 5 starts but they won all 5 of them. And I think things would’ve turned out a lot differently if he didn’t make those very few starts
Lol, I mean your right, every player in the regular season who who contributed positively is responsible for the world series because of how slim our margin to get into the playoffs was by the end of the season
Umm... Now that is almost as crazy as the claim that Ohtani has already done enough for the HOF. Your assumption is flawed though. As you are assuming had any other pitcher been on the mound to start that they definitely wouldn't have won the game. I think all were won by at least 3 runs also so to assume any other pitcher would have lost doesn't make sense. Or hell you could argue had he played more and played well they wouldn't have had to squeak into the playoffs
@@BrandonKClark86 I know. But without his performance in his few innings in 2023, the rangers likely wouldn’t have made the playoffs given how flawed the rotation and (especially) the bullpen were
Scherzer, Goldschmidt, Altuve, Verlander, Kershaw, Ohtani, Trout, Harper, Soto, Betts and Freeman are the no doubters IMO. There is a rather large list of potential HOFers that is too big to list but includes names like Arenado, Seager, Judge, Machado amongst others.
Hes has done things that were thought to be impossible. One could easily make an argument for why he should be in the hall. By normal metrics, he has a ways to go. Sure. But he isn't a normal player. He has the most unique Statelines in the sports history. Hes also single handedly responsible for growing the sport after two decades of it slowly losing viewership. @BenDover4meplz
@@TheBlackWaltz wow more Japanese people are watching because they actually have a big name in the show again after 10 years. Teams aren’t dumb like the Angels and would’ve forced him to pick one.
If Will Smith gets another World Series win in 2024 I think he should be a dark horse pick for the sheer fact that his presence is clearly the sole factor leading to championships
In no particular order, here's the players I believe are already HOFers right now: Mike Trout, Justin Verlander, Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Max Scherzer, Mookie Betts, Joey Votto, Paul Goldschmidt, Evan Longoria, Freddie Freeman, Manny Machado, Nolan Arenado, Craig Kimbrel, Kenley Jansen, and Aroldis Chapman. Players who're playing right now who aren't in HOF territory yet, but are REALLY close, are as follows in no particular order: Jose Altuve, Andrew McCutchen, Chris Sale, Josh Donaldson, Bryce Harper, Jose Ramirez, Jacob DeGrom, Giancarlo Stanton, Francisco Lindor, Marcus Semien, Aaron Judge, Gerrit Cole, Carlos Correa, and Jason Hayward. Finally, players right now who aren't especially close to HOF territory yet, but are on a VERY good trajectory, are as follows in no particular order: Christian Yelich, Anthony Rizzo, Xander Bogaerts, Starling Marte, Justin Turner, Johnny Cueto, George Springer, Kevin Keirmaier, Carlos Santana, Alex Bregman, Shohei Ohtani, J.T. Realmuto, Anthony Rendon, Salvador Perez, Trea Turner, Corey Seager, Jose Abreu, Aaron Nola, D.J. LeMahieu, Matt Chapman, Yu Darvish, Trevor Story, Sonny Gray, J.D. Martinez, Madison Bumgarner, and Elvis Andrus. :)
Jacob DeGrom made 6 starts in 2023, none in the postseason. He's made 215 career starts, and in an era when SP wins aren't as easy to come by, there are several active SP with more wins than he has starts. No doubt dominant, but guy can't stay healthy. Snell is a case of 2 CY seasons and not much else. He's got more season with a 4+ ERA (3) than a sub-3 ERA (2). He's also never come terribly close to 200 IP in a single season, with a career high of 180.2 in 2018. Outside of his 2 CY seasons he's 36-41 with a 3.84 ERA over 632 innings across 128 starts. Doesn't scream HoF pitcher.
What if the Yankees win the championship, and Stanton reaches 500 home runs but reaching 500 by hitting only about 20 a year hitting for an average of 220 Would that be enough? Asking because he’s my favorite player
@@RyanSchilling-fg9qn Arenado will get in. His defensive stats are up there with Brooks Robinson. Arenado has been that good. Trout is statistically up there with willie mays in CF. Arenado has a way better bat than Robinson did. Robinson has a better career with accolades, and what not. That alone won't take away from Arenado. He's a HOFer, and you can count on that. Maybe not a first ballot guy, but you never know.
Freeman and Altuve if they get 3000 hits by the end of their careers they will most likely (See Craig Biggio) get in first ballot (they are also the two most likely to make the mark and they are still years away)
@@ctimepresents8828 yeah it most likely will. But as I see it if the trajectory continues for Altuve he has a good chance of getting 300 stolen bases (basically there) 300 HRs (if he keeps his numbers steady he should get this) and 3000 hits (again if he keeps his number steady) which is very rare (even rarer if he can keep his 300+ avg since only Hank Aaron has done that) but say he gets that. It is like yeah he wont get 100% but still it is hard to say no to something like that though sadly these writers prove most years they dont know how to vote. With that i bring up Biggio who had 3000 hits yet for some reason took 3 years to get in.
@@ketch0_041 you would think as the standard has been for hitters 3000 H or 500 HR to get in first ballot. But i bring up Craig Biggio because he had 3000 hits (was also way up there on doubles as well and his best stat was holding the modern almost outright record for most times hit by a pitch.). But did he get in on his first attempt no it took till his 3rd.
I do think that people will still let Altuve in first try especially considering (when fully healthy) people understand he is the best second baseman in the league
Judge will be close to a lock as well if he strings together another 4-5 years of 120+ games, his peak production and absurd career OPS (.982!) are too good to ignore if he gets in the neighborhood of 450 bombs.
I’m afraid your arguments for the Hall for some of these players is invalid. Basing candidacy on past players stats vs candidate stats is short-sighted. HOF is not just mathematical unlike so many believe. Candidacy includes their impact on the sport and the era in which they played. Fringe candidates, like Mattingly, surely look to have been passed up, but in fact the voters at the time for that time didn’t fully agree. Personally I’d like less candidates and more stringent criteria to be considered. But that’s for a different discussion.
Joey Votto to me is going to be an analitics guy. Analitically, he's got a good HoF case. I think he can make it, but it might take a few years to climb
I am not diminishing Ohtani's ability, and you did say, "He needs a few more years", but it doesn't sound like you know that there is a minimum amount of time in order to be on the ballot. And Mr. Mamiko Tanaka is not eligible yet. A player must have been on a MLB roster for at least parts of 10 seasons. Obviously, they could go the Clemente route with him and wave that part of the eligibility. But right now he needs four more years to be considered.
Goldschmidt, trout, harper, Arenado, Verlander, Scherzer, Clayton Kershaw, salvador perez, joey votto, altuve machado Mookie betts, acuna, greinke, mccutchen, freeman, ohtani, tatis, Cole, degrom. Add extras i cant think of Stanton will never get back to where he was, will not hit 500 homeruns. Kimbrel will and jansen get in via alumni committee vote.
I'm assuming the Acuna and Degrom singlehandedly leading their teams to WS titles was a joke, since both were on the IL and neither is technically credited as a WS champ 😂😂
The sarcastic tone given for Old Hoss Radbourn was not well-deserved. I think it's safe to say his 1884 will never be reproduced (granted, the rules were very different), and he did get to 300 wins.
I've heard this on a zillion videos. It's primarily young folks who somehow believe the modern world grants them knowledge of everyone and everything that ever existed in the whole of human history. It's easy to be condescending when you think you know it all.
Zero. The answer is zero. Not a single player playing today is a hall of famer. They might be when their careers are over, but there are none currently playing. It's insanity to make predictions like this. I remember when Yasiel Puig was a "sure fire hall of famer" What happened to him? Same can be said with Ohtani, he is a freak of nature, an anomaly, but if you look at his numbers? No, he is not yet a hall of famer.
Jacob degrom didnt do much of anything for the rangers, he certainly didn't lead them to the championship singlehandedly cuz that single arm couldn't do anything
You almost can't use Harold Baines as the bar...because there's plenty of guys better than him who aren't in. You almost just have to throw him out when discussing hof potential because it's so ridiculous.
Freddie Freeman has already done enough were he to retire today. Ohtani should already be a hall of famer were he to retire?! That is one of the stupidest things I thing I've heard in baseball since...well...forever. Obviously the guy is great and if he stays healthy the odds are very high he makes it to coopestown some day but to imply he has already done enough is not based in reality. I knew the Ohtani ass kissing had gotten out of hand but this? Were talking a career .275 hitter so far with 171 bombs! The idea that he is already worthy is some of the stupidest claims I've ever heard. Yeah he has also gone 38/19 as a pitcher, 38 wins guys...Look out! Sorry folks but you could double those numbers and he still wouldn't be a lock, get real.
@@Blubbluh bruh, there was nothing comedic about any other part of this take. Seems odd to me that this was the only “joke”. In the whole piece. We can agree to disagree.
So? If Steve Pearce won another WS MVP would that make him a HOFer? Yes i know hes not a Seager level player, but that point is thats an accolade that should have almost NOTHING to do with HOF. Anyone can get hot for a best of 7 series. The only reason that matters is like a cheery on top of a HOF case.
@@msscott22 Addie Joss. End of story. So yes, Ohtani would make the ballot. Now that we're done playing, you have a sandwich to make me. Let's see if you can at least get that right.
The whole logic around Altuve not taking part is just so stupid. Like oh no runners ahead of him ever cheated to get on? Nobody behind him? The score wasn't effected so pitch mix wasn't? They didn't throw breaking balls in breaking ball counts because they kept getting smoked if not always hit. He benefitted. His average. His obp. Ops. RUNS especially RBI's is a damn team stat. I'm sorry your honor i was just in the bank when everybody was shooting. I got a split of the money but i didn't do anything inside the bank i just stood there and kept guard... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
they could only cheat at home with the setup used and they has worse offense at home than on the road. the cheating didn't help so even if he got some peripheral benefits, they were obviously inconsequential.
@@CooperLordOfAllThe cheating didn’t help? Inconsequential?? In game 5 of the 2017 World Series Kershaw threw 51 breaking balls + sliders and didn't get a single swing and miss.
Everyone needs to remember that ohtani has only played 6 seasons and has proven to not be able to stay healthy on the pitching side. First ballot already is crazy he has a lot to prove.
Prove what? He's a two-time MVP and the greatest two-way player ever. This isn't the gotcha you thought it was. If he became a league average player for the rest of his career, he'd still get in first ballot. "You know he's only played 6 seasons right?" Oh wow, we DIDN'T know that. Thanks for the enlightenment. And by the way, 10 years isn't the hard requirement you think it is. Just ask Addie Joss. Moron.
@@Zark_Moneybags69so fricken what? Youre saying a 3 time CY Young, 1 time MVP, the best pitcher of his generation, and a career ERA under 2.50 is not a lock because "meh postseason." Thats beyond stupid. And saying 2020 doesnt count is stupid. It counts as much as the next. And i hate the Dodgers. He has a ring (which shouldnt even matter). Does Ken Griffey not get into the HOF because he didnt win a WS? Should Rod Carew not be in the HOF because he didnt win a WS? Ernie Banks? Ichiro? Mike Piazza? Tony Gwynn? Criag Biggio? Jeff Bagwell? Don Sutton? Fregie Jenkins? I cant stand you people that say"Oh ThIs PlAyEr WaSnT gOoD bEcAuSe No WoRlD SeRiEs." 1). You know how hard it is to win one? No you dont apparently. 2). Having no WS ting DOES NOT take away from your career performance.
I love the bit about DeGrom single handedly leading the Rangers to a WS title 😂😂🤙🏼
To be fair, Puckett's career was ended abruptly in his near-prime by his vision problems. Those were not normal end-of-career numbers. Puckett got something of a deserved mulligan.
I have no issue with him being in, but if he gets the injury mulligan, certainly Don Mattingly should get it as well. And even more so for Thurman Munson.
Puckett was also a piece of garbage human being. Schilling should be in. The steroids guys should be in. Jeff Kent should be in.
@@snerdterguson feel like thurman munson gets often overlooked in these talks, he was so good
The Hall needs to recognize greatness ruined by injury like the NFL does, the Gale Sayers rule needs to be placed in the Hall
Get some glasses
I love the number of subtle jokes in here. I may have to watch the video again to make sure I didn't miss any.
Andrew McCutchen won’t be first ballot, but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t make it in. He essentially exemplifies what the voters look for, even if he’ll retire right at about a 50 WAR
No chance he ever makes it
70 WAR is pretty consistent with making the HOF, so even I as a Mets fan kinda slept on Lindor, who is at 43 WAR entering his age 30 season. Carlos Correa is right behind him at 41 WAR entering his age 29 season. Both are pacing pretty well
Thing is Correa needs to bounce back as last year was bad and if it continues like that he won’t
Just curious where would you put a guy like Corey Seager on this list? I feel like he truly can’t be too far off the “just be consistent the rest of your career and you’re in” tier
I think he has to be at least have another 3 dominant seasons. He’s only really had 3 (4 including 2020) full seasons out of 8 years. He’d be sure fire first ballot if he were healthy but adding that “if healthy” designation hurts his case. I think his case is similar to deGrom. They’re both elite, arguably the best at their position, but they have had so many injuries across their careers that has limited the playing time. This certainly has hurt the counting stats that voters look for. I think both of them need a few more years of being elite to solidify their cases.
Time will tell and I hope they can kick the injury bug and finish on a strong note.
I think without deGrom, the rangers wouldn’t have even made it to the postseason. He only had 5 starts but they won all 5 of them. And I think things would’ve turned out a lot differently if he didn’t make those very few starts
Lol, I mean your right, every player in the regular season who who contributed positively is responsible for the world series because of how slim our margin to get into the playoffs was by the end of the season
Technically, if he loses 2 of those starts, they don't get into the playoffs
Umm... Now that is almost as crazy as the claim that Ohtani has already done enough for the HOF. Your assumption is flawed though. As you are assuming had any other pitcher been on the mound to start that they definitely wouldn't have won the game. I think all were won by at least 3 runs also so to assume any other pitcher would have lost doesn't make sense. Or hell you could argue had he played more and played well they wouldn't have had to squeak into the playoffs
That hardly means he single handedly led them to the world series... he only pitched 30 innings my dude and none in the post season
@@BrandonKClark86 I know. But without his performance in his few innings in 2023, the rangers likely wouldn’t have made the playoffs given how flawed the rotation and (especially) the bullpen were
i gasped at degrom single handedly leading the rangers to the world series… like acuña.
Scherzer, Goldschmidt, Altuve, Verlander, Kershaw, Ohtani, Trout, Harper, Soto, Betts and Freeman are the no doubters IMO. There is a rather large list of potential HOFers that is too big to list but includes names like Arenado, Seager, Judge, Machado amongst others.
Soto?
Ohtani isn’t a HOFer after 3 full seasons and 3 injured seasons.
Soto??? He debuted in 2018. At least put Acuña in as well.
Hes has done things that were thought to be impossible. One could easily make an argument for why he should be in the hall. By normal metrics, he has a ways to go. Sure. But he isn't a normal player. He has the most unique Statelines in the sports history. Hes also single handedly responsible for growing the sport after two decades of it slowly losing viewership. @BenDover4meplz
@@TheBlackWaltz wow more Japanese people are watching because they actually have a big name in the show again after 10 years. Teams aren’t dumb like the Angels and would’ve forced him to pick one.
If Will Smith gets another World Series win in 2024 I think he should be a dark horse pick for the sheer fact that his presence is clearly the sole factor leading to championships
In no particular order, here's the players I believe are already HOFers right now: Mike Trout, Justin Verlander, Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Max Scherzer, Mookie Betts, Joey Votto, Paul Goldschmidt, Evan Longoria, Freddie Freeman, Manny Machado, Nolan Arenado, Craig Kimbrel, Kenley Jansen, and Aroldis Chapman. Players who're playing right now who aren't in HOF territory yet, but are REALLY close, are as follows in no particular order: Jose Altuve, Andrew McCutchen, Chris Sale, Josh Donaldson, Bryce Harper, Jose Ramirez, Jacob DeGrom, Giancarlo Stanton, Francisco Lindor, Marcus Semien, Aaron Judge, Gerrit Cole, Carlos Correa, and Jason Hayward. Finally, players right now who aren't especially close to HOF territory yet, but are on a VERY good trajectory, are as follows in no particular order: Christian Yelich, Anthony Rizzo, Xander Bogaerts, Starling Marte, Justin Turner, Johnny Cueto, George Springer, Kevin Keirmaier, Carlos Santana, Alex Bregman, Shohei Ohtani, J.T. Realmuto, Anthony Rendon, Salvador Perez, Trea Turner, Corey Seager, Jose Abreu, Aaron Nola, D.J. LeMahieu, Matt Chapman, Yu Darvish, Trevor Story, Sonny Gray, J.D. Martinez, Madison Bumgarner, and Elvis Andrus. :)
Nahhhh that Shaggy picture for Hader was foul 😂😂😂
Jacob DeGrom made 6 starts in 2023, none in the postseason. He's made 215 career starts, and in an era when SP wins aren't as easy to come by, there are several active SP with more wins than he has starts. No doubt dominant, but guy can't stay healthy.
Snell is a case of 2 CY seasons and not much else. He's got more season with a 4+ ERA (3) than a sub-3 ERA (2). He's also never come terribly close to 200 IP in a single season, with a career high of 180.2 in 2018. Outside of his 2 CY seasons he's 36-41 with a 3.84 ERA over 632 innings across 128 starts. Doesn't scream HoF pitcher.
Your 3 pitchers + Miggie, Trout, Sabathia, Harper, Ohtani, Judge, Freeman
Miguel Cabrera isn't in the league?
He has now retired.
Maybe Corey Seager? If he wins another World Series mvp he would def be a lock
What you talking about the World Series mvp wouldn’t factor in to anyone’s hof case ever
Not at all
@@RyanSchilling-fg9qnworld series mvp factors into players voting every year😂
No it doesn’t but if you think so that’s ik
@@RyanSchilling-fg9qn dude why wouldn’t that be considered? Like a World Series MVP definitely helps a player’s resume
Sal Perez is a HOF’er and nobody mentions him other than serious baseball enthusiasts
What if the Yankees win the championship, and Stanton reaches 500 home runs but reaching 500 by hitting only about 20 a year hitting for an average of 220
Would that be enough? Asking because he’s my favorite player
Arenado is a good lock too when he’s done.
He should be but won’t. They decided to build a park where they did in Colorado and then punish players for playing there makes no sense
@@RyanSchilling-fg9qn Arenado will get in. His defensive stats are up there with Brooks Robinson. Arenado has been that good. Trout is statistically up there with willie mays in CF. Arenado has a way better bat than Robinson did. Robinson has a better career with accolades, and what not. That alone won't take away from Arenado. He's a HOFer, and you can count on that. Maybe not a first ballot guy, but you never know.
So is Machado. Both look to have the endurance to pass Chipper’s 417 on the all time 3rd base baseman home run list in their age 35 or 36 season.
I wish Evan Longoria had it in him to have one more All Star caliber season.
Greinke won't get in first ballot but he should be in the hall. Ace level pitching and the best hitting pitcher for a time
Would he even show up to the ceremony
@@RyanSchilling-fg9qnLMAO probably not🤣 he'd have someone read a letter
He is 100% going in first ballot
Freeman and Altuve if they get 3000 hits by the end of their careers they will most likely (See Craig Biggio) get in first ballot (they are also the two most likely to make the mark and they are still years away)
Imo once you hit 3k hits you should be an automatic along with 600 HR and 3000 Ks
Astros cheating scandal will take away Altuves first ballot chances imo. Which as a Yankee fan, I think is bullshit
@@ctimepresents8828 yeah it most likely will. But as I see it if the trajectory continues for Altuve he has a good chance of getting 300 stolen bases (basically there) 300 HRs (if he keeps his numbers steady he should get this) and 3000 hits (again if he keeps his number steady) which is very rare (even rarer if he can keep his 300+ avg since only Hank Aaron has done that) but say he gets that. It is like yeah he wont get 100% but still it is hard to say no to something like that though sadly these writers prove most years they dont know how to vote. With that i bring up Biggio who had 3000 hits yet for some reason took 3 years to get in.
@@ketch0_041 you would think as the standard has been for hitters 3000 H or 500 HR to get in first ballot. But i bring up Craig Biggio because he had 3000 hits (was also way up there on doubles as well and his best stat was holding the modern almost outright record for most times hit by a pitch.). But did he get in on his first attempt no it took till his 3rd.
I do think that people will still let Altuve in first try especially considering (when fully healthy) people understand he is the best second baseman in the league
JD Martinez should have gotten a mention here. If he can reach 400 home runs, which is not yet out of the question for him, I think he's got a case
Judge will be close to a lock as well if he strings together another 4-5 years of 120+ games, his peak production and absurd career OPS (.982!) are too good to ignore if he gets in the neighborhood of 450 bombs.
I’m afraid your arguments for the Hall for some of these players is invalid. Basing candidacy on past players stats vs candidate stats is short-sighted. HOF is not just mathematical unlike so many believe. Candidacy includes their impact on the sport and the era in which they played. Fringe candidates, like Mattingly, surely look to have been passed up, but in fact the voters at the time for that time didn’t fully agree. Personally I’d like less candidates and more stringent criteria to be considered. But that’s for a different discussion.
8:27 who is Jason Kepler lmao
Votto doesn't have the traditional counting stats but he was elite as heck.
Joey Votto to me is going to be an analitics guy. Analitically, he's got a good HoF case. I think he can make it, but it might take a few years to climb
Great Video
Is nobody going to stand up for Shaggy as a first-ballot lock?
I am not diminishing Ohtani's ability, and you did say, "He needs a few more years", but it doesn't sound like you know that there is a minimum amount of time in order to be on the ballot.
And Mr. Mamiko Tanaka is not eligible yet. A player must have been on a MLB roster for at least parts of 10 seasons. Obviously, they could go the Clemente route with him and wave that part of the eligibility. But right now he needs four more years to be considered.
no bryce harper? i understand the inconsistency but he will retire with 500+ hrs n close to 3000 hits
Josh hader had me rolling
Both Texas Rangers middle infielders have a good case as well. Also shoutout to Lindor and JRam.
Goldschmidt, trout, harper, Arenado, Verlander, Scherzer, Clayton Kershaw, salvador perez, joey votto, altuve machado
Mookie betts, acuna, greinke, mccutchen, freeman, ohtani, tatis, Cole, degrom.
Add extras i cant think of
Stanton will never get back to where he was, will not hit 500 homeruns.
Kimbrel will and jansen get in via alumni committee vote.
A lot of people saying Judge is a HOFer right now… and I’m seriously confused. Maybe I shouldn’t be. Yankees fans going to Yankee. Nice video👍
I think it’s fair to say he has the potential to become one.
I'm assuming the Acuna and Degrom singlehandedly leading their teams to WS titles was a joke, since both were on the IL and neither is technically credited as a WS champ 😂😂
Freeman Betts Ohtani Judge will be
If ohtani would make it to the first ballot?? Most definitely will.
I don’t like comparing Vet Committee inductees to anybody the BBWAA are voting on. Their standards are completely different.
We gotta see if votto comes back first ;(
I think if Stanton gets to 500 homers he’d get in the HOF
The sarcastic tone given for Old Hoss Radbourn was not well-deserved. I think it's safe to say his 1884 will never be reproduced (granted, the rules were very different), and he did get to 300 wins.
I've heard this on a zillion videos. It's primarily young folks who somehow believe the modern world grants them knowledge of everyone and everything that ever existed in the whole of human history. It's easy to be condescending when you think you know it all.
I think Otani is already a lock ngl. Itd be hard to vote against for what he can do and has done
what’s w the Twins disrespect??!???
Zero. The answer is zero. Not a single player playing today is a hall of famer. They might be when their careers are over, but there are none currently playing.
It's insanity to make predictions like this. I remember when Yasiel Puig was a "sure fire hall of famer" What happened to him? Same can be said with Ohtani, he is a freak of nature, an anomaly, but if you look at his numbers? No, he is not yet a hall of famer.
honeslty, I think Ohtani gets in first ballot right now.
I would say 25-30 are playing right now
Madbum?
jeff kent should be in the hall
100%
Ohtani will be a lock once he reaches 10 years to become eligible.
Seager making the HoF too
Jacob degrom didnt do much of anything for the rangers, he certainly didn't lead them to the championship singlehandedly cuz that single arm couldn't do anything
You almost can't use Harold Baines as the bar...because there's plenty of guys better than him who aren't in. You almost just have to throw him out when discussing hof potential because it's so ridiculous.
Put Scherzer in a Washington hat wtf lmfao
You forgot Marcus Semien.
Dude he’s already 33, no where near 2000 hits and has a career batting average of like .250. Difference between a good player and HOFer
@@dashpratt4097 he had a career 42 WAR with 4 top 5 MVP finishes. 2 more 6 plus WAR seasons and he is in.
@@JMPIMP254 touché
when you think about it MLB is better then ever
Altuve not a 1st ballot hall of famer? Crazy
Joey Votto!!!!
Josh Hader looking different ehh?
Hader’s biggest problem might be Wagner’s issues making the Hall signaling that relievers just will not be likely to get in.
Freddie Freeman has already done enough were he to retire today. Ohtani should already be a hall of famer were he to retire?! That is one of the stupidest things I thing I've heard in baseball since...well...forever. Obviously the guy is great and if he stays healthy the odds are very high he makes it to coopestown some day but to imply he has already done enough is not based in reality. I knew the Ohtani ass kissing had gotten out of hand but this? Were talking a career .275 hitter so far with 171 bombs! The idea that he is already worthy is some of the stupidest claims I've ever heard. Yeah he has also gone 38/19 as a pitcher, 38 wins guys...Look out! Sorry folks but you could double those numbers and he still wouldn't be a lock, get real.
Jeen Carlos
Aaron Judge is the best player in the league (just look at wRC+ and WAR over the last 2-3 years, no one comes close to Judge)
Corbin Carroll first ballot
I drafted him 1st round in fantasy baseball smh
Hell no ohtani isn’t in yet. Fuck no. Fuck fuck no . Absolutely not. He’s got to do it several more years.
Bro, you lost all credibility when you said DeGrom single handedly lead the Rangers to the WS.
Clearly a joke
@@Blubbluh bruh, there was nothing comedic about any other part of this take. Seems odd to me that this was the only “joke”. In the whole piece. We can agree to disagree.
Answer: 0
Lol
At least 4 first ballot lmfao
@redskinsfan0690 my joke is that they're active players not hall of famers lol... being literal
Corey Seager was not mentioned at all…. That’s a true travesty, 2 time World Series MVP
So? If Steve Pearce won another WS MVP would that make him a HOFer? Yes i know hes not a Seager level player, but that point is thats an accolade that should have almost NOTHING to do with HOF. Anyone can get hot for a best of 7 series. The only reason that matters is like a cheery on top of a HOF case.
If Ohtani stopped playing right this moment, he wouldn't even make the ballot.
Tell that to Addie Joss.
@@greatnessdelton1381 You're just reinforcing my point.
@@msscott22 Your point is about as existent as women in MLB.
@@greatnessdelton1381 So Ohtani would make the ballot then? No. He wouldn't. Thanks for playing.
@@msscott22 Addie Joss. End of story. So yes, Ohtani would make the ballot.
Now that we're done playing, you have a sandwich to make me. Let's see if you can at least get that right.
Salvador Perez is a hof
The whole logic around Altuve not taking part is just so stupid. Like oh no runners ahead of him ever cheated to get on? Nobody behind him? The score wasn't effected so pitch mix wasn't? They didn't throw breaking balls in breaking ball counts because they kept getting smoked if not always hit. He benefitted. His average. His obp. Ops. RUNS especially RBI's is a damn team stat. I'm sorry your honor i was just in the bank when everybody was shooting. I got a split of the money but i didn't do anything inside the bank i just stood there and kept guard... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
they could only cheat at home with the setup used and they has worse offense at home than on the road. the cheating didn't help so even if he got some peripheral benefits, they were obviously inconsequential.
@@CooperLordOfAllThe cheating didn’t help? Inconsequential?? In game 5 of the 2017 World Series Kershaw threw 51 breaking balls + sliders and didn't get a single swing and miss.
This argument makes more sense if it was only the Astros, which it wasn’t. They just got to be the example so MLB could look like they cared.
So Betts and Judge wont be going to Cooperstown, then? And kick out anyone who even played in the steroid era, roughly 85-06?
Everyone needs to remember that ohtani has only played 6 seasons and has proven to not be able to stay healthy on the pitching side. First ballot already is crazy he has a lot to prove.
Prove what? He's a two-time MVP and the greatest two-way player ever. This isn't the gotcha you thought it was. If he became a league average player for the rest of his career, he'd still get in first ballot.
"You know he's only played 6 seasons right?" Oh wow, we DIDN'T know that. Thanks for the enlightenment. And by the way, 10 years isn't the hard requirement you think it is. Just ask Addie Joss.
Moron.
Ohtani isn’t a hall of famer
You can not possibly make a case for Ohtani as a HOF player if he retired now. He has only played 6 years.
So
@@zardsire2012 You have to play 10 seasons to be eligible.
@@gazzawhiteLaughs in Addie Joss.
Lets be honest: The HOF would make an exception for Ohtani as a pioneer role (of 2-way players) & being freaking ridiculous as a hitter.
Ohtani is in.
Ohtani will be an exception. He’s been doing something that hasn’t been done since Ruth.
if you'e gonna say the scandal affects Altuve's HOF resume you need to say the same about Mookie too. Mookie stole signs in 2018 hypocrite
Longoria?
Real edge case
yah he's on the cusp, i like him and i hope that he makes it
I would boycott the HOF if he makes it in
It’s not the hall of good guys
HELL NO on Trout....numbers don't lie.
?? he has a super similar career numbers to Mickey Mantle
Kershaw is not a hall of famer what would he be in the hall of fame for most playoff chokes in mlb history
U ok u seem mad about something. He is a first balled hall of Famer
@@RyanSchilling-fg9qn I'm not mad it's just facts. He can't win a real world series unless it's the mickey mouse season
Ok just curious why are u ignoring his regular season stats just curious because it’s like u only care about what they do in post season
@@RyanSchilling-fg9qn because he only good against bad teams and folds in the playoffs when he has to play real competition
@@Zark_Moneybags69so fricken what? Youre saying a 3 time CY Young, 1 time MVP, the best pitcher of his generation, and a career ERA under 2.50 is not a lock because "meh postseason." Thats beyond stupid. And saying 2020 doesnt count is stupid. It counts as much as the next. And i hate the Dodgers.
He has a ring (which shouldnt even matter). Does Ken Griffey not get into the HOF because he didnt win a WS? Should Rod Carew not be in the HOF because he didnt win a WS? Ernie Banks? Ichiro? Mike Piazza? Tony Gwynn? Criag Biggio? Jeff Bagwell? Don Sutton? Fregie Jenkins?
I cant stand you people that say"Oh ThIs PlAyEr WaSnT gOoD bEcAuSe No WoRlD SeRiEs."
1). You know how hard it is to win one? No you dont apparently.
2). Having no WS ting DOES NOT take away from your career performance.
Andrew mcutchen, prob not first ballot but I could see him sliding in!
Not even close
@@kyleknapp1985 okay you caught me....... I just like the guy I did no actual research before saying he should make it in
Seager will be a Hall of Famer
"And single handidly led the Rangers to the world series"(6:22)... This line was a joke, right?
Cutch has a good chance and I think if Stanton hits 500 hes a lock
Shohei pitched at an MVP* level, not just all-star
If Trouts career ended today, he might make it on his 4th year, if he makes it at all
DeGrom single handedly got the Rangers to the World Series huh? Clearly you don’t know shit about baseball.
That joke flew completely over your head.... He even said "like Acuňa did for the Braves in '21"
Both were out injured those years