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When the professional legal career doesn't work out, I suppose there is always money to be made starting a RUclips channel to peddle far-right nonsense. No real lawyer would use the Daily Mail as a source of information.
Just saying break our laws loose your wrights citizenship is earned not given! it annoys me we give these people chances and they often throw the support back in our faces by breaking our laws why should we respect their safety? If i broke a law in any other country you can be sure they would kick me out! so why is it different in the uk? I just dont get it the NHS is already broken and prisons full so why should judges think ohh lets rehabilitate people who illegally come to the uk and break our laws. This is No one wins scenario uk public loses, NHS loses, gov groups loses face everyone loses but who dosent? the criminals!
A potential risk to the vicious criminal tumps the actual and proven threat to OUR citizens, that is beyond absurd. The judge who sided with this vile criminal is evil, the lawyers representing him are also evil, the evil of an immoral and "Just following the rules" apathetic class of folk, no better than "I was just following orders" they will be as guilty as him if he reoffends!
I cant accept any asylum debate, there are literally millions of people being oppressed around the world why is it on us to help everyone no matter what their cause. I dont care that this person would be killed in said country, the burden of his sexual preference has absolutely nothing to do with my life we have far to much sexual deviants to even consider accepting anymore. You may stay milk toast being a barrister but I will say I dont care about the gays in Muslim countries its beyond what we can deal with we have our own problems its not up to the everyday person to take on all of this, it is basically preposterous to think anyone could put up with whats happening in this country.
Honestly I don't think the country is going to last much longer. I feel like it is going to break down and have a major collapse of governance. Or the public just have enough and start taking matters into their own hands in such huge numbers the police are powerless to stop them and the government is powerless.
Indeed so, and how can our courts be so consistently hoodwinked by people who have committed serious crimes and part of whose nature must be telling Iies all the time? Also, how many billions of pounds is it costing for these people to be provided with legal aid? The law is an ass.
Who gives a fk what happens to him back home? Why should he be protected from alleged harm, whilst actually causing harm to someone else? GET HIM OUT 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
In basic terms *What about the Human Rights of the victim* And further to add The brilliant Ben Habib has been in discussions with someone 'high up' within the Pakistani government and they would have no issue in receiving back any dual nationality Pakistanis who have convicted of a serious offence requiring deportation.
The Gulag Archepeleggo really did highlight how the communist government create a situation where the criminals controled the society at large which helped the government control the populace.
You'd think so, wouldn't you.......but not anymore. The first job of government THESE DAYS, is to help everyone else BUT the native citizenry. They are useless and serve no purpose at all, if they only take the taxpayers cash, and give it away to illegals and other countries, with the native citizens RIGHT DOWN THE BOTTOM of any priority list.
@ Alas people dont tend to vote that way, they tend to try and get the best deal for themselves and their interests. With ever increaseing government dependants in the civil service and benefits, its spiraling out of control.
@@dpstrial erm.. no.. the law is the law.. everyone is under those conditions.. or at least THATS the way its supposed to work.. but we all know it does not.. the issue is WHY it doesnt work.. and who's going to be held accountable for their part
@@KemPeck1701 Isn't it obvious why it doesn't work? People. That's why; plain and simple. They talk a big game when it comes to equality and yet when push comes to shove- even those at the top will push down. The law is fallible because it's created by and enforced by people. Its never worked long term and unfortunately the cycle of history is doomed to repeat with only slight details changing.
Why have we placed judges above responsibility and accountability. We have terrible judges making awful decisions and there is no consequences for their ineptitude.
@@markbennett9176 30 years ago I would agree, judges would be following the letter of the law above personal beliefs. But since then we seem to have judges enter the system with personal agendas, sometimes activist agendas. My concern is that once in position of power there is no real system to remove judges who make poor decisions and biased interpretations of the law. They have authority but no accountability.
This just underlines how out of step the legal system is with what a normal person would consider as acceptable . What about the victim and future victims
Heard all this before people running away from danger from their country BUT went back for weddings and holidays ITS A SCAM AND THE AGENCIES FALL FOR IT EVERY TIME x
If he knew he would be persecuted in his own country he shouldn't have risked deportation by committing the crime. Where are the human rights of the victim in this? Its disgusting.
Who are populating these tribunals. These people need to work in public, under scrutiny. They appear to be as big a problem to our society as the offenders themselves.
It shouldn't matter if he is even genuinely at risk: he consented to the risk of being deported and this consented to that risk, given that it was reasonably foreseeable he could be deported for his actions.
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD I think you have hit the nail on the head. The reason they don’t punish it properly or even seem phased by it compared to us normal folk is because they are already desensitised to it.. Cameron and the pig head, rumour has it Starmer is the love child…
Well if you're being mugged, and you push the mugger and they smack their head on a wall and are injured, or you try to defend your home from a burglar in the night, YOU will still likely ALSO receive some kind of charge too. The law in the UK is designed in a way that aims to discourage people from seeking justice themselves (which isn't inherently a bad thing), but the perpetrator starts with an advantage over victims, the legal system definitely leans in a liberal direction...
No offence blackbelt but I think clever and manipulative lawyers may have played their part in amendments in the law. Not all lawyers should be lawyers and do the profession and great disservice. We have already witness this with some immigration lawyers. But again as mere moral what do I know!
Anyone, regardless of race, creed or colour, who is convicted of a serious crime, should automatically lose their “rights”. No one in authority seems to give a damn about the rights of their victims.
But can it not be argued that he gave up his right to "access" asylum rights when he committed the crime? Anyone can now claim to be "gay" to avoid UK law? In addition, ignorance of the law is no defence.
So why is his safety more of a priority than the safety of the UK public given he was convicted of a crime and there is indisputable evidence of the threat he poses and the threat he faces is nothing but hear say?
@@sahhullSTFU with the constant racism. Im a British Pakistani and I demand that every single one of these sex demons are deported. I dont vote labour. We stand on the same side, stop demonising us all.
This is a relatively tame case compared to so many where a villan whos victims was one of his children is allowed to stay because of the "needs" of a different child.
As a convicted criminal, he should not have been granted anonymity as it became a matter of public interest and protection. This is part of the problem in that the British justice system is entrenched in wokeness to the point they are putting the rights of foreign criminals above the rights of law abiding citiziens. Any person or judge who prevents the deportation of these criminals should be held complicit to the crime later committed by them. ECHR does not prevent their deportation. It is only woke judges who are failing to enforce the deportations.
Better still let these do gooders house them and pay for them I'm sure the public would like that rather then letting these criminals loose let the judge and politicians take the criminals in to there houses!!!
I'm an x JP and I find these rulings against law breakers in our own country ludicrous. If you want to come here and look for safe haven then you should abide by our laws and if you are unable to do so then expect to be deported no exceptions! This country has a right for it's residents to be safe.
There’s no legal aid for most UK citizens who pay into the system unless you get benefits. So why is it that if you enter the country illegally you can get it. There used to be help for domestic abuse victims but that’s now means tested as well, and most ppl don’t qualify.
Honestly? This is just beyond stupidity. The rapist is here illegally and he rapes someone, he keeps his identity secret and we keep him in this country. He should have thought about his actions before he did this.
Dont worry, the real sick bastards of this country will be named and shamed Im talking about those absolute sickos that say mean things online of course, what absolute unchecked monsters they are 😂
If you have to make a choice which should it be? Should serious offenders have the right to remain in the UK if they put your family, community and country at risk of harm? Its impossible to support both sides of the debate .
I read a case that the guy denounced his country, he has dual citizenship, I don’t know what happens, when someone claims they are no longer a citizen of their country of origin. So he got to stay. This is all a massive farce and the lawyers defending them, should be exiled as well, they should be protecting the people who live in the UK, not add to the problems we have with people entering our country, without going through the legal route. If the Government cannot fix this, get in someone who will…..
It's all by design and worse to come with the age of consent to be lowered to 13yrs of and then 8yrs just a tip of the Ice berg being planned for our puppeticians to implement.
@@ernestschroeder9762 only those prepared to stand their ground for each right, have any. The moment you choose to empower someone over you, you forfeit any you believe you have in exchange for privileges they choose to give and take from you at their whim.
We have to get them out in the meantime. Every excuse under the sun is being used to stop them being deported. How would his country know he was bi-sexual, they would only know, if he tells them……
A caller named Paul on Talk Mike Graham said that he'd emailed his MP. Yesterday the cops called at his house to warn him that he NEARLY crossed the line of counter-terrorism law...is this not a breach of Data Protection law by the MP as he/she passed on the name and address of Paul?
As far as I can make out, if the MP thought the guy had either broken the law, or was about to break the law, under DPA 170 section 2a was necessary for the purposes of preventing or detecting crime, would probably be adequate defence
Depending on the contents of the email (threats/criminal intentions) it wouldn't be covered by GDPR, and there's the question of if an MP has to follow GDPR, as far as I'm aware businesses and organisations have to follow them but does it apply in this case?
Too worried about human rights of people from countries that have none! Ben Habib said he had talks with Pakistan authorities, he said they will take back all criminals! Why we not taking up the offer 😡
Would the tribunal judge be willing to stand in the dock next to him if and when he breaks the law again? Judges should be accountable for their decisions.
It's stupid that tribunals allow them to stay. Especially since the ECHR's own rules allows us to ignore excuses of safety if the convicted person is deemed a danger to others.
He's been left here to persecute women in safety, rather than him being persecuted in his own country. Human Rights Courts care nothing for the Human Rights of the victim.
So in order not to expose dangerous criminals to certain unspecified risks when deported, it's better to expose everyone in UK to risk of repeated criminal activity by convicted criminals? That makes perfect sense.
So he fears for his own safety (which I think is a lie) but the safety of every woman and child in our own country isn't as important? This is absolutely wrong!
"his life would be in danger if sent back" self-inflicted to me, why are we responsible for him being at risk if he thinks it's okay to put our women at risk?
I really struggle with the entire concept that those who break the law can then use the law to evade the consequences of that action????? Why can it not be that if somebody wants the protection of the law, they must abide by it.
It's always very convenient that when a foreigner commits a crime and is told they'll be deported, they have a protected characteristic that would see them persecuted in their country of origin. It's almost as if their lawyer or someone has told them to say it. Call me cynical if you like.
Judge Mollie Mulready, trans fan and Irish dancer, she has never ruled in favour of the Home Office that I could find, she writes for the Guardian, OMG
Perhaps the alternative is life imprisonment: His actions against the woman show a disregard to our laws, our culture, her rights, and common decency. He's here illegally, so he has no right to remain. Life in prison therefor seems reasonable? Although, if his anonymity is required due to the risk of the respons from people here, surely that's no difference to what he faces back in Jamaica? So wouldn't that invalidate that argument?
What's this got to do with France? He's from Jamaica. They are in the Commonwealth. You know, our "commonwealth friends" we were told would replace the EU for trade and cheap labour?
the fact this guest could inflict such upon a woman in our country and knowing his life is not in danger because of said thing in our country indicates everything we need to know.
Think about the consequences before committing a crime. This person is one of many that needs to be deported. They should lose the right for appeal once convicted a criminal
When will our Courts realise that certain ideologies, believe its OK to lie to get yourself out of trouble 😮. That poor woman. How many sleeping people have been Graped by this man while asleep 😮.
"certain ideologies" - He's from Jamaica. Jamaica is majority Christian. Don't think Christianity condones lying to get out of trouble. Nor do most religions.
Most, probably all of these criminals knew before they offended what would happen and what might happen if 'returned to sender' became likely. Some even commit crimes to avoid any possibility of deportation then invite their overseas families to join them here in the UK. A simple conviction for theft is enough to work this trick. I first saw this happen in Plymouth, Devon, 15 years ago... The perp was a newly married Muslim woman who stole even though her British husband ensured she was very well provided for.
I wonder what evidence was obtained from the criminals original country - as to his/ her criminal record. Having been fond guilty of the offence possibly his / her rites should be removed to protect the victims.
the first duty (i see ) of a government is to protect the people of this country , by removing dangerous people they would be doing this most basic duty , by allowing them to remain puts us and not just the millions but the individual at risk there are not anti gay laws as far as i am aware in Jamaica , many gay people holiday in the country with no problems
Details of the case aside the legal aid bill alone would make our eyes water. People like this are taking advantage of the good nature of Britain and its people. Then to release him back into the community after 3 years and protect his identity is farcical. We have had enough!
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When the professional legal career doesn't work out, I suppose there is always money to be made starting a RUclips channel to peddle far-right nonsense. No real lawyer would use the Daily Mail as a source of information.
Just saying break our laws loose your wrights citizenship is earned not given! it annoys me we give these people chances and they often throw the support back in our faces by breaking our laws why should we respect their safety? If i broke a law in any other country you can be sure they would kick me out! so why is it different in the uk? I just dont get it the NHS is already broken and prisons full so why should judges think ohh lets rehabilitate people who illegally come to the uk and break our laws. This is No one wins scenario uk public loses, NHS loses, gov groups loses face everyone loses but who dosent? the criminals!
Labour MP caught in the act ruclips.net/video/Wo-VvMSsb1M/видео.htmlsi=VkuUm_1fg_GUYvGH
A potential risk to the vicious criminal tumps the actual and proven threat to OUR citizens, that is beyond absurd. The judge who sided with this vile criminal is evil, the lawyers representing him are also evil, the evil of an immoral and "Just following the rules" apathetic class of folk, no better than "I was just following orders" they will be as guilty as him if he reoffends!
I cant accept any asylum debate, there are literally millions of people being oppressed around the world why is it on us to help everyone no matter what their cause. I dont care that this person would be killed in said country, the burden of his sexual preference has absolutely nothing to do with my life we have far to much sexual deviants to even consider accepting anymore. You may stay milk toast being a barrister but I will say I dont care about the gays in Muslim countries its beyond what we can deal with we have our own problems its not up to the everyday person to take on all of this, it is basically preposterous to think anyone could put up with whats happening in this country.
Putting criminals before the safety of its own citizens. Disgusting.
Recommendation #8 of the 11 Recommendations of the Frankfurt school.
These are the citizens they want, not the old ones. Far easier to control when they are dependent on the state.
Honestly I don't think the country is going to last much longer. I feel like it is going to break down and have a major collapse of governance. Or the public just have enough and start taking matters into their own hands in such huge numbers the police are powerless to stop them and the government is powerless.
Communists are in our government working to undermine us
Indeed so, and how can our courts be so consistently hoodwinked by people who have committed serious crimes and part of whose nature must be telling Iies all the time? Also, how many billions of pounds is it costing for these people to be provided with legal aid? The law is an ass.
Who gives a fk what happens to him back home? Why should he be protected from alleged harm, whilst actually causing harm to someone else? GET HIM OUT 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
Agreed
And what about those who are "at risk" because these criminals aren't deported?
Judge Molly Mulready, she has never ruled in favour of the Home Office that I could find, she writes for the Guardian, OMG
Exactly
In basic terms *What about the Human Rights of the victim*
And further to add
The brilliant Ben Habib has been in discussions with someone 'high up' within the Pakistani government and they would have no issue in receiving back any dual nationality Pakistanis who have convicted of a serious offence requiring deportation.
The first job of the government is to protect it's own citizens not illegal criminals.
The Gulag Archepeleggo really did highlight how the communist government create a situation where the criminals controled the society at large which helped the government control the populace.
When will people be willing to elect a government that cares about protecting them?
Is there any evidence that you claim has any substance whatever, if anything as in this case the evidence demonstrates the opposite is true.
You'd think so, wouldn't you.......but not anymore. The first job of government THESE DAYS, is to help everyone else BUT the native citizenry. They are useless and serve no purpose at all, if they only take the taxpayers cash, and give it away to illegals and other countries, with the native citizens RIGHT DOWN THE BOTTOM of any priority list.
@ Alas people dont tend to vote that way, they tend to try and get the best deal for themselves and their interests. With ever increaseing government dependants in the civil service and benefits, its spiraling out of control.
'They 'are at risk if 'they' are sent back home. How many women and children are at risk if 'they' are not sent home?
Touché.
And men, do t forget he’s bisexual, so we’re ALL fair game
He wouldn’t have been at risk if he had kept his bisexuality to himself…who would know!!?
He has the right to anonymity so therefore we can't protect ourselves from him. This country disgusts me
he forfeited his human rights when he denied the right of another to say NO
That's literally what the Nazis said. Well done, you've just insulted every British veteran.
People illegally here should have no rights or recourse to law in this country.
@@dpstrial erm.. no.. the law is the law.. everyone is under those conditions..
or at least THATS the way its supposed to work..
but we all know it does not..
the issue is WHY it doesnt work.. and who's going to be held accountable for their part
@@KemPeck1701 no it only applies to citizens.
@@KemPeck1701 Isn't it obvious why it doesn't work? People. That's why; plain and simple.
They talk a big game when it comes to equality and yet when push comes to shove- even those at the top will push down. The law is fallible because it's created by and enforced by people. Its never worked long term and unfortunately the cycle of history is doomed to repeat with only slight details changing.
Our lives are in danger in the UK.
@@MisterSynonym more than you probably realise.
Pig tube censoring as usual. Nonce apologists at jew tube.
@@philmipants6337 🎩
and some , this country hasn't been this dangerous
plus we have Isis sleeper cells here
I watch RUclipsrs in Poland and Russia and the streets are clean with very little crime.
ILLEGALLY entering shows they have no regards for the law!
Spot on!!!
Well said Sir Jim…👍
Can’t you “Fix it”..?
Exactly, if their first act in the country is to break the law, then they should be deported immediately. This is an absolute 🤡 show.
Just like the creatures in government?! I mean, where do you draw the line??
If they were worthy of becoming UK citizens, they’d have applied legally?
Why have we placed judges above responsibility and accountability. We have terrible judges making awful decisions and there is no consequences for their ineptitude.
Because these judges and politicians are completely disconnected from reality
I guess they are following the laws. It is the laws that need to change and we need our spineless, woke, far left politicians to do that.
@@markbennett9176the judge made a personal decision, he has to carry the can for this bullshit
@@markbennett9176 30 years ago I would agree, judges would be following the letter of the law above personal beliefs. But since then we seem to have judges enter the system with personal agendas, sometimes activist agendas. My concern is that once in position of power there is no real system to remove judges who make poor decisions and biased interpretations of the law. They have authority but no accountability.
Why should we care about the consequences a criminal will face as a result of their criminal behaviour?
Exactly
What about the Human Rights of the victim?
Yep. They don’t care about that. Not one jot. It’s a disgrace.
He was told what to say, by certain dodgy lawyers, to avoid deportation! 😡
If they are hiding his identity here, why would anyone in Jamaica know what he had done? Absolute nonsense
He does not want to go back, because he cannot get away with being a predator there.
This is a very good and relevant point and should be a question asked 👍
Well said pay the country for a place in jail I'm sure they would appreciate the money
@@SusanBell-dl5gr yeh they probably wouldn't put him in protection there
Why is the UK accepting ANYONE from Jamaica if they're so backwards they will KILL a man for being bisexual?
This just underlines how out of step the legal system is with what a normal person would consider as acceptable . What about the victim and future victims
Making fools of us all ! It has got to stop.
This has become a sick joke, we are a laughing stock of the world.
No, but the rich want you to hate people other than them.
It’s the same in most other countries actually.
@@buttercxpdraws8101and? I care about OUR safety
Don't worry in Canada and the United States I can assure you we are praying for you and ourselves
Yeah and when we start fighting back, we'll be wrong for that too! I think that's the plan though.
"Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent"
They find all those little loopholes and laugh behind our backs if not straight in our faces
Judge Mollie Mulready, trans fan, she has never ruled in favour of the Home Office that I could find, she writes for the Guardian, OMG
Every protection for the criminal, none for the victim(s) or public.
The government’s first responsibility is to protect the indigenous people.
Heard all this before people running away from danger from their country BUT went back for weddings and holidays ITS A SCAM AND THE AGENCIES FALL FOR IT EVERY TIME x
If he knew he would be persecuted in his own country he shouldn't have risked deportation by committing the crime. Where are the human rights of the victim in this? Its disgusting.
100% agree
The victims rights been sold out by the government and politicians
Who are populating these tribunals. These people need to work in public, under scrutiny. They appear to be as big a problem to our society as the offenders themselves.
They are sadly not required to balance his safety against the victims which he now knows he can do what he likes.
Well said
Let's put it this way. Many of them, as well as those lawyers helping them stay aren't a whiter shade of pale!
Judge Molly Mulready, she has never ruled in favour of the Home Office that I could find, she writes for the Guardian, OMG
Thank you for putting this in the comments! I've been saying this for a long time! Judges are the greatest danger to or society!!
So are we now saying Jamaica isn't a "safe" country in terms of being a democracy?
It shouldn't matter if he is even genuinely at risk: he consented to the risk of being deported and this consented to that risk, given that it was reasonably foreseeable he could be deported for his actions.
Over there he would be turned into a Roman Candle for his crime of Rape alone, here ah free to roam and do again and a cushy house madness
Most people are trying to get to Jamaica, for a few weeks to relax anyway.
Sounds a bit 'racist' doesn't it?
@@kelly4187 Excellent reasoning
Can’t everyone all see that these criminals are just playing a massive game ? Utterly ridiculous and disgusting
The law has all the resources to represent the rapist , and the victim has no recourse to anything
He should have thought of Consequences before Raping the Non Consenting Woman , Deport Him .
What about her rights don't matter then oh forgot this was our great Britain what a joke
Or worse
100% agree
If he did think of the consequences he would have known that he would probably be able to live indefinitely in The UK. It’s a disgrace.
@@nonecomformistme932it doesn't make sense care more about the criminal instead of the victim
No inquiry, no mass deportations no peace…
Judge Mollie Mulready, trans fan, she has never ruled in favour of the Home Office that I could find, she writes for the Guardian, OMG
@@AndrésMahouWe need her address, does she have kids we can get at? Time to play nasty.
@@AndrésMahou this is what needs to be investigated.
So how come the woman is treated like a criminal and the criminal is treated like the victim?
Our authorities seeming desire to defend sexual crimes is quite worrying to be honest. Like they're entangled in it.
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD
I think you have hit the nail on the head.
The reason they don’t punish it properly or even seem phased by it compared to us normal folk is because they are already desensitised to it..
Cameron and the pig head, rumour has it Starmer is the love child…
Well if you're being mugged, and you push the mugger and they smack their head on a wall and are injured, or you try to defend your home from a burglar in the night, YOU will still likely ALSO receive some kind of charge too.
The law in the UK is designed in a way that aims to discourage people from seeking justice themselves (which isn't inherently a bad thing), but the perpetrator starts with an advantage over victims, the legal system definitely leans in a liberal direction...
No offence blackbelt but I think clever and manipulative lawyers may have played their part in amendments in the law. Not all lawyers should be lawyers and do the profession and great disservice. We have already witness this with some immigration lawyers. But again as mere moral what do I know!
@@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs Yet if you dispose of the intruder properly then nothing should come back on you 😉😉
Anyone, regardless of race, creed or colour, who is convicted of a serious crime, should automatically lose their “rights”. No one in authority seems to give a damn about the rights of their victims.
But can it not be argued that he gave up his right to "access" asylum rights when he committed the crime? Anyone can now claim to be "gay" to avoid UK law?
In addition, ignorance of the law is no defence.
Yes to all 3
So why is his safety more of a priority than the safety of the UK public given he was convicted of a crime and there is indisputable evidence of the threat he poses and the threat he faces is nothing but hear say?
This is just getting ridiculous.
They won't upset future voters.
Starmers army.
@@sahhullSTFU with the constant racism. Im a British Pakistani and I demand that every single one of these sex demons are deported. I dont vote labour.
We stand on the same side, stop demonising us all.
This is a relatively tame case compared to so many where a villan whos victims was one of his children is allowed to stay because of the "needs" of a different child.
Not at ALL ridiculous for the unfortunate victim of grape...
As a convicted criminal, he should not have been granted anonymity as it became a matter of public interest and protection.
This is part of the problem in that the British justice system is entrenched in wokeness to the point they are putting the rights of foreign criminals above the rights of law abiding citiziens.
Any person or judge who prevents the deportation of these criminals should be held complicit to the crime later committed by them.
ECHR does not prevent their deportation. It is only woke judges who are failing to enforce the deportations.
Better still let these do gooders house them and pay for them I'm sure the public would like that rather then letting these criminals loose let the judge and politicians take the criminals in to there houses!!!
I really don’t give a fig what happens to these people if they are returned to their country of origin! Does anyone?
If he has an anonymity order for safety reasons here because he's a rapist , why is he deemed more at risk in Jamaica?
I'm an x JP and I find these rulings against law breakers in our own country ludicrous. If you want to come here and look for safe haven then you should abide by our laws and if you are unable to do so then expect to be deported no exceptions! This country has a right for it's residents to be safe.
It does but,not according to our judiciary, who seem far more concerned at the safety of criminals. Than those who have suffered at their hands .
And now, not only are you an ex JP, you’re a far right one.
Why are taxpayers funding this circus
Cos we don’t have a Choice.
There’s no legal aid for most UK citizens who pay into the system unless you get benefits.
So why is it that if you enter the country illegally you can get it.
There used to be help for domestic abuse victims but that’s now means tested as well, and most ppl don’t qualify.
And they wonder why vigilantes start springing up
Women do not protect women. Jail that judge.
ABUSE OF PROCESS!
Honestly? This is just beyond stupidity.
The rapist is here illegally and he rapes someone, he keeps his identity secret and we keep him in this country.
He should have thought about his actions before he did this.
He'll be a labour MP next.
Dont worry, the real sick bastards of this country will be named and shamed
Im talking about those absolute sickos that say mean things online of course, what absolute unchecked monsters they are 😂
The fact his identity is kept secret is worrying as women are still in danger from him.
He has complete protection while women have absolutely none.😢
That harks back to the days when logic and justice were the order of the day!
And working class people are exponentially screwed out of their money and public services to ensure this evil army is comfortable.
I really give up on any UK government doing what is right for their citizens.
UNUSUALLY its NOT the Home Office (for once)
Its the Tribunal
Many suspect the Tribunals are unfit for purpose
Urgent reform of the UK's Human Rights Act 1998 is needed. But how can this be initiated and by whom ?
I’m not sure about the Human Rights and who holds jurisdiction, it may be one of these things still held in Brussels (EU)…
And what do you think that reform would lead to under queer stalin?
Until the UK leaves the ECHR then most deportations will be blocked.
How can we do that if Globalist NGO'S control our Government.
It's too old and needs to be updated the echr and human rights
The logic of this that these people can commit crimes without being deported. Surely this just encourages crime? This does not seem fair.
If you have to make a choice which should it be? Should serious offenders have the right to remain in the UK if they put your family, community and country at risk of harm? Its impossible to support both sides of the debate .
I presume HR lawyers advise these people on ways out of being removed. They are using lawfare against the victims...
Go see who stands head n shoulders above everone else on changing immigration laws
I read a case that the guy denounced his country, he has dual citizenship, I don’t know what happens, when someone claims they are no longer a citizen of their country of origin. So he got to stay. This is all a massive farce and the lawyers defending them, should be exiled as well, they should be protecting the people who live in the UK, not add to the problems we have with people entering our country, without going through the legal route. If the Government cannot fix this, get in someone who will…..
Judge Molly Mulready, trans fan ,she has never ruled in favour of the Home Office that I could find, she writes for the Guardian, OMG
Of the lawyers themselsve don't then charities and other NGos do
The justice system is a joke
Yet the UK suffers if these criminals stay!
How do these judges and solicitors sleep at night?
In VERY EXPENSIVE beds within very wealthy neighbourhoods, well clear of problem immigrants.
He should have considered that before doing such a horrendous crime.
Many who have claimed assylum do return back to their home country on holiday, the border people know it but nothing is done.
Yep.
Or to get married
Crimes and lies along with corruption and fraud pays and is rewarded in the uk the politicians ate at it so are criminals the uk is a joke
"My home country is dangerous but I like to go back to chill" effin morons, them and border (lack of) Control
Putting our families at huge risk.
We cant go on like this....
It's all by design and worse to come with the age of consent to be lowered to 13yrs of and then 8yrs just a tip of the Ice berg being planned for our puppeticians to implement.
A risk to life in “their” country, what about the risks to OUR country 😡 😡 unbelievable!!!!!!
This ruling puts the rights of the victim and the safety of the community as tertiary to the claimed rights of the criminals. This is wrong.
The riskees become the risks in this country and we don't feel safe anymore
To receive human rights you should act human surely or forfeit that right.
@@ernestschroeder9762 only those prepared to stand their ground for each right, have any.
The moment you choose to empower someone over you, you forfeit any you believe you have in exchange for privileges they choose to give and take from you at their whim.
They are acting Human, unfortunately of the worst kind.
It’s almost as if a criminal might fib to stay in the U.K. I’m glad we have judges and tribunals aren’t fooled by this. 🙄 smh.
Lots are,look at the pedos they give community work to. They think nothing of people,just cash.
Illegal or criminal behaviour should be punished.
They don't mind causing danger to people in this country but our laws protect the criminals for fear they will be in danger in their country... ffs 😳
We’re at risk if they don’t go in some cases. Time to stand up for the British people.
Tariffs and sanctions for countries who fail to take their criminals back👍🏻
No visas unless they take their people back too.
We have to get them out in the meantime. Every excuse under the sun is being used to stop them being deported. How would his country know he was bi-sexual, they would only know, if he tells them……
It says in the news the perpetrator rapist was even granted anonymity for his own protection? WTF id going on over there?
Farcical isn’t it.
Madness
And who's protecting the victims here ???
A caller named Paul on Talk Mike Graham said that he'd emailed his MP. Yesterday the cops called at his house to warn him that he NEARLY crossed the line of counter-terrorism law...is this not a breach of Data Protection law by the MP as he/she passed on the name and address of Paul?
As far as I can make out, if the MP thought the guy had either broken the law, or was about to break the law, under DPA 170 section 2a was necessary for the purposes of preventing or detecting crime, would probably be adequate defence
No you can inform on your fellow citizens all you like.
Paul would be better of pursuing a parliamentary privilege claim.
Depending on the contents of the email (threats/criminal intentions) it wouldn't be covered by GDPR, and there's the question of if an MP has to follow GDPR, as far as I'm aware businesses and organisations have to follow them but does it apply in this case?
Thanks everyone
I bet the contents were tame and caused by lack of action in our system. Pitchforks are gonna come if they don’t sort the mess out
Too worried about human rights of people from countries that have none!
Ben Habib said he had talks with Pakistan authorities, he said they will take back all criminals!
Why we not taking up the offer 😡
Ask starmer and the many selfish and wicked politicians
The very same people who go back to the country that "persecuted" them for holidays.
Would the tribunal judge be willing to stand in the dock next to him if and when he breaks the law again?
Judges should be accountable for their decisions.
One would think he should be happy to play a part in his rehabilitation by letting him stay with him in his own home. No?
100% afree
If the home office considered him a risk to the community why was he released in the first place
I think...an Iman...is running it all!!
Iman lawyers...Iman laws...Iman judges...Iman courts...SURELY??? (Because IT MAKES NO "common"-SENSE!!!)
It appears the judicial system needs a complete overhaul 🤷🏼♂️
They are at risk if they go, but we are at risk if they stay is not a hard decision. They go, regardless if they are here illegally or not.
It's stupid that tribunals allow them to stay. Especially since the ECHR's own rules allows us to ignore excuses of safety if the convicted person is deemed a danger to others.
He's been left here to persecute women in safety, rather than him being persecuted in his own country. Human Rights Courts care nothing for the Human Rights of the victim.
I'm definitely cynical. Deport without right to appeal. One appeal after another is a waste of money.
Our Money !
So in order not to expose dangerous criminals to certain unspecified risks when deported, it's better to expose everyone in UK to risk of repeated criminal activity by convicted criminals? That makes perfect sense.
Exactly!! The balance of risk should fall on them not us!!!!
😂😂😂yep
So he fears for his own safety (which I think is a lie) but the safety of every woman and child in our own country isn't as important? This is absolutely wrong!
If someone is worried about his safety back home, he should have the sense to not to break the law here.
"his life would be in danger if sent back"
self-inflicted to me, why are we responsible for him being at risk if he thinks it's okay to put our women at risk?
I really struggle with the entire concept that those who break the law can then use the law to evade the consequences of that action????? Why can it not be that if somebody wants the protection of the law, they must abide by it.
Well . . . you _do_ recall the 2008 Global Financial Crisis?
Loopholes are written-in, and the Common Law no longer applies. That's why.
Those criminals have lost all their Human rights
The law is a joke if it believes the crap this criminal has come out with.
It's always very convenient that when a foreigner commits a crime and is told they'll be deported, they have a protected characteristic that would see them persecuted in their country of origin. It's almost as if their lawyer or someone has told them to say it. Call me cynical if you like.
When you look at surnames of the employees at the home office. The lack of deportations makes sense.
How many of them live a lifestyle above their pay grade?
What an EMBARRASSMENT 😮😮😮
The perps human rights does not and should not trump the human rights of the victim and or potential victims.
Judge Mollie Mulready, trans fan and Irish dancer, she has never ruled in favour of the Home Office that I could find, she writes for the Guardian, OMG
100% agree
Perhaps the alternative is life imprisonment: His actions against the woman show a disregard to our laws, our culture, her rights, and common decency. He's here illegally, so he has no right to remain. Life in prison therefor seems reasonable? Although, if his anonymity is required due to the risk of the respons from people here, surely that's no difference to what he faces back in Jamaica? So wouldn't that invalidate that argument?
We’re at risk if they say here ffs!
How can they say that when we are not at war with France and we are supposed to be out of the EU !
What's this got to do with France? He's from Jamaica. They are in the Commonwealth. You know, our "commonwealth friends" we were told would replace the EU for trade and cheap labour?
the fact this guest could inflict such upon a woman in our country and knowing his life is not in danger because of said thing in our country indicates everything we need to know.
Judge Mollie Mulready, trans fan, she has never ruled in favour of the Home Office that I could find, she writes for the Guardian, OMG
Yes....
Our Good Nature is being abused...
And So are OUR Human Rights!!
@@AndrésMahouOMG....Indeed!!
Surrounded by WEF robots!🙄
Think about the consequences before committing a crime. This person is one of many that needs to be deported. They should lose the right for appeal once convicted a criminal
If illegal migrants don’t want to be sent back, they just have to behave, like others in this country. It’s hard to believe that he didn’t know.
When will our Courts realise that certain ideologies, believe its OK to lie to get yourself out of trouble 😮.
That poor woman.
How many sleeping people have been Graped by this man while asleep 😮.
"certain ideologies" - He's from Jamaica. Jamaica is majority Christian. Don't think Christianity condones lying to get out of trouble. Nor do most religions.
so if he goes then he is in danger, but if he stays he is the danger!
Remember by not sending him back to his own country it’s a vote saved for the Labour party
Same happens under the others. It matters not.
Most, probably all of these criminals knew before they offended what would happen and what might happen if 'returned to sender' became likely. Some even commit crimes to avoid any possibility of deportation then invite their overseas families to join them here in the UK. A simple conviction for theft is enough to work this trick. I first saw this happen in Plymouth, Devon, 15 years ago... The perp was a newly married Muslim woman who stole even though her British husband ensured she was very well provided for.
I wonder what evidence was obtained from the criminals original country - as to his/ her criminal record.
Having been fond guilty of the offence possibly his / her rites should be removed to protect the victims.
the first duty (i see ) of a government is to protect the people of this country , by removing dangerous people they would be doing this most basic duty , by allowing them to remain puts us and not just the millions but the individual at risk
there are not anti gay laws as far as i am aware in Jamaica , many gay people holiday in the country with no problems
Unfortunately, NOT the duty of THIS Government, I fear.
I am horrified about this future that my Children have had to grow up into
Who are the people protecting these scumbags! They are a disgrace.
Don't you know? The public have been putting them in power since the system was established - regardless of party.
Reform MPs attack young girls - and were convicted, but still an MP!
Details of the case aside the legal aid bill alone would make our eyes water. People like this are taking advantage of the good nature of Britain and its people.
Then to release him back into the community after 3 years and protect his identity is farcical.
We have had enough!
You KNOW who they are - the politicians in charge, who use anything and everything to spread fear and therefore control over us law-abiding folk.
@@lilyvonshtuup Then i trust you won't ever vote again.
If he has been given anonymity, no one in Jamaica will know who he is or his sexuality so he is very safe there ..
Why are you trying to rationalize this, the judges/elite are simply taking the piss of the public. You are being played by your elite.
Horrendous