Chrome Tanned vs. Vegetable Tanned Leather, Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @rael1999
    @rael1999 10 месяцев назад +7

    Well I've been a leather maker (tanner) all my life and I thought your video on the subject was excellent. Very clear and knowledgable. Although the Suede guys might feel a tad miffed because they didn't get much of a mention.
    Like you say it's horses for courses with both Veg and Chrome leather. Chrome when you want softness, stretch and a particular colour etc and Veg when you want a resilience, toughness like in sole leather, saddles and in bags where it gives great stand and form. Plus the smell we associate with leather comes from Veg tanned leathers. Older people like myself will remember taking your shoes for re-soling and that wonderful smell that would hit you when you walked in the door.
    Veg leather too has its beauty, I always compare it to beautiful wooden made articles. Mainly because it's natural beauty is enhanced with dyes and antiques and rarely covered with pigments. It darkens on age and if looked after can become even more beautiful as it develops it's own character.

  • @pjyast
    @pjyast Год назад +41

    Summary:
    Chrome tanned leather and vegetable tanned leather are two common methods of tanning animal hides to turn them into durable, long-lasting leather products.
    Chrome tanning is a faster process that involves the use of chromium salts to tan the hide. This method is generally less expensive and produces a softer and more supple leather. The resulting leather is often more water-resistant and can be dyed to a wider range of colors.
    Vegetable tanning, on the other hand, uses natural tannins found in tree bark and other plant materials to tan the hide. This process takes longer, but the resulting leather is typically firmer and more durable than chrome tanned leather. It also tends to be more environmentally friendly, as it uses natural materials instead of chemicals. Vegetable tanned leather can also develop a rich patina over time with use, making it a popular choice for high-end leather goods.
    Ultimately, the choice between chrome tanned leather and vegetable tanned leather depends on the intended use of the leather product, as well as personal preferences for appearance, texture, and environmental impact.

    • @jayaneyon9316
      @jayaneyon9316 6 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like an ai summary

  • @hugomillere4315
    @hugomillere4315 3 года назад +36

    Great information, in a very clear way, for someone like me starting leather crafting and wondering the why, how, what... Thanks for sharing all this.

  • @ABCRK18
    @ABCRK18 Год назад +3

    I'm glad I watched this video because I was beginning think chrome tan was just garbage leather and am happy to hear that its just the stuff i bought and not all chrome leather.

  • @Well_Earned_Siesta
    @Well_Earned_Siesta 4 года назад +7

    I'm continuously blown away by the quality of this channel. Thanks!

    • @JzMillinery
      @JzMillinery Месяц назад

      Me too. Something to aspire to

  • @lt3880
    @lt3880 10 месяцев назад +1

    Incredible breakdown. I learned more about leather than probably the sum total of my leather knowledge I had previously

  • @cthulhukc7six6six37
    @cthulhukc7six6six37 4 года назад +13

    Very informative. I'm not a high fashion type of man, I do have some nice vintage clothes that I use for those occasions. But I still love to see the history and in depth explanations of men's fashion from past to present. I thoroughly enjoy everything about this channel.

  • @atosov
    @atosov 4 года назад +63

    Everybody HAS to watch the brief segment that starts at 19:21, when Raphael explains why he is wearing a leather coat.

  • @krunoslavkovacec1842
    @krunoslavkovacec1842 4 года назад +6

    I saw the article just few hours ago. I got excited for the topic. The video delivered, for sure.

  • @thomahammer9581
    @thomahammer9581 4 года назад +10

    Wow brought back memories as I worked for a chrome tannery while in college. Could name most of the equipment show. Vats, wooden drums and later they began using cement mixers, as shown in the video. I never worked with vats. I worked predominantly with cattle and pig hides. Great video.

  • @EAG369
    @EAG369 4 года назад +3

    This is still done the old-school way by Pergamena, based in New Jersey. I know them through bookbinding, but I believe that they also provide supplies for fashion ateliers.

  • @d74g0n
    @d74g0n 2 года назад

    I think this is the most informative video I ever seen in my life. epic.

  • @samle1801
    @samle1801 4 года назад

    Man ain't into the other content of the site as much as shoemakers before. But I love this one!

  • @earlelzy7243
    @earlelzy7243 2 года назад

    I really needed to hear this information about leather because I am a new leather crafter.

  • @juxtapositionMS
    @juxtapositionMS 3 года назад +5

    That's a great bunch of information all at once. And the narration, presentation made it a masterpiece. Thank you.

  • @gabrielM1111
    @gabrielM1111 10 месяцев назад +1

    A letter is a message written on paper and usually mailed.

  • @prowokator
    @prowokator 4 года назад +18

    Veg tan leather can also be tooled, carved, dyed and shaped in endless ways. Both have their uses and neither one is the Best for every situation. For customs jobs veg tan is often the way to go as it can be modified in so many ways. The higher price of veg tan goods is most likely because the craftsperson has spent lots of time actually doing ohter things than just cutting and sowing the piece together. The cost of leather material becomes at one point almost irrelevant, of course it again depends on the item being created.

    • @gergemall
      @gergemall Год назад

      Thank you for the advice.

    • @theskullinside666
      @theskullinside666 2 дня назад

      One big difference between veg and chrome is that veg is a lot more environmentally friendly!
      Chrome has a lot of pretty nasty chemicals used in the process and it's not very great in the long run

  • @Terrigan_Reina
    @Terrigan_Reina 4 года назад +9

    14:02, the best part of the video. Bravo!

  • @antjebartholdi5074
    @antjebartholdi5074 2 года назад +2

    Hey "Professor Leather", this is the best video I ever watched! How often did I try to find an explanation for the difference between sorts of leather ...... and failed each time! Thank you so much for this video with tons of information, that I surely have to watch several times to understand all the history, the relationships, the differences of quality and the purposes of each kind of leather! Now ‐ THANK YOU AGAIN ‐ I know where I can find all answers!

  • @williammosezar
    @williammosezar 4 года назад

    I was a mens shoe buyer and had the opportunity to visit the Alden factory a few times with Floyd our Alden rep. Amazing!

  • @georgel4730
    @georgel4730 3 года назад +5

    This is amazing! It answers so many questions I had in regards to how leather is processed!

  • @vinnemontegna7134
    @vinnemontegna7134 4 года назад +60

    Rafael is amazing I love the accent

    • @nonbespokeelegance2481
      @nonbespokeelegance2481 4 года назад +9

      Exactly, he is our Professor Classic Style. i also followed him for quiet few years and still keep learning from him.

    • @jZamora87
      @jZamora87 3 года назад +2

      sus

  • @unknown_2.
    @unknown_2. 9 месяцев назад +1

    The best video to get some basic knowledge about leathers and it's processes.
    Thank you for this video

  • @amadejpesko
    @amadejpesko 4 года назад +7

    Woow, I really did not expect video about that, but it is really useful and interesting. Great job.

  • @SigfridSWE
    @SigfridSWE 2 года назад

    I like rose anvil and his favorit Chrome tan leather from the US. Takes a long time aswell. The Horween CHROMEXCEL leather is an awesome leather if you want I good choice to veg tan in some cases

  • @p4our587
    @p4our587 Год назад

    I believe that he had to say… "don't burn your finished leather goods"… because there are people (you know who you are) that would actually go & burn their stuff & cry about a guy telling them to burn their leather goods to figure out what tanning process was used to make their product.
    Silly people.
    Oh… and thank you for this presentation.
    It was full of very helpful information & you were very thorough. Great job!

  • @JzMillinery
    @JzMillinery Месяц назад

    What an excellent video, thank you! I had no idea that you could burn leather to find out if it was veg or chrome tanned, just like textiles! I’m learning how to wet mould veg tanned leather from the Santa Croce area right now. I’m near Florence. ❤

  • @Alberad08
    @Alberad08 4 года назад +2

    Great upload! BTW I had to think of an old friend of mine, the biologist Dr. V. Knappertsbusch, who, in the late 90ties, developed a stem of bacteria being able to digest/process chrome tanned leather into harmless environment-friendly compounds.

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  4 года назад

      Sounds great. Do you have a link with more information?

  • @SouthernGuardian
    @SouthernGuardian 4 года назад +3

    Outstanding video. Men need to understand the differences and the uses that various leather production provide.

  • @glittergoldandglam
    @glittergoldandglam 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you. This was so helpful

  • @memuna2barriebarrie891
    @memuna2barriebarrie891 4 года назад +9

    Quality content! I'm currently writting my dissertation on Leather and found this video a great source of research

    • @hwanglee3330
      @hwanglee3330 3 года назад +2

      Let me know if u had published ur dissertation, I would like to read it

    • @alhusayal8010
      @alhusayal8010 Год назад

      Me too

  • @chefmarcos
    @chefmarcos Год назад +1

    I thought Full Grain is the ultimate with top grain being the second tier quality as it is the top layer of the full grain

  • @CobblerBob
    @CobblerBob 4 года назад +3

    Great video! Very information dense, and done without skipping important points & without skipping details. I too visited Horween Leather 1-1/2 yrs ago, and I’ve had the chance to interview one of the owners of Ashland Leather co. One of his points was the same as one of yours... there’s no one “best” leather. Best for what application?

    • @matttherrien9608
      @matttherrien9608 2 года назад

      Horween leather is amazing. I started wearing my Cavalier Leather Doc Martens 7 days ago and they're already broken in. The leather will outlive the soles and then I can resole them one way or another. I can say. almost to a certainty, I'll be wearing these for the rest of my life! Costly, but worth every penny. You get what you pay for right?

  • @grahamhill8018
    @grahamhill8018 4 года назад +2

    An excellent video. Very detailed explanations on the differences between chrome and veg tan, plus thier uses and the processes. One of the best I have seen on this subject, great work.

  • @RealLockheedMartin
    @RealLockheedMartin 4 года назад

    Somehow, this is longer than the Rose Anvil video on a very similar topic. Glad to have more info on the topic, at any rate.

  • @189643478
    @189643478 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for this interesting and informative video! I am not an expert but I think you might want to check the chemical used in the pre-tanning process. I don't think it's talc, as that's a very inert substance. To decrease pH it will be some form of acid that is used.

  • @vindicator75
    @vindicator75 4 года назад +2

    Why are Meermin leather shoes so stiff? Are they getting their leathers from similar tanneries as Carmina? Is there a finishing process in making the shoes that make them stiffer?

    • @gentlemansgazette
      @gentlemansgazette  4 года назад +3

      The lower level Meermin shoes are rather stiff. Not just the sole leather but also the uppers. I would assume that's how they have the leather tanned to their specs. The Linea Maestro line is much better, and not as stiff. They are still not soft shoes, but a huge improvement compared to the regular Meermin shoes.

  • @nathantang9964
    @nathantang9964 4 года назад

    please more of these types of videos with technical, in depth explanations into the quality of materials! On another note, could you do a video on John Lobb shoes?

  • @chuckwilkins3581
    @chuckwilkins3581 4 года назад

    Another great video with a detailed explanation. High quality leather is out of reach for allot of people. But, whole shopping consignment and thrifting I now know what I am looking for.

  • @juanruiz529
    @juanruiz529 4 года назад

    Excellent video! It was very informative and I look forward to the next installment.

  • @gopalchauhan9649
    @gopalchauhan9649 3 года назад +3

    Well Explained clearly and liked the way it is really presented
    Thanks for the inspiration
    Look forward for more such information

  • @RealDustyChandler
    @RealDustyChandler Год назад +1

    What can we use to condition chrome tanned leather patches? Thanks for the videos!

  • @leatherbydragonfly
    @leatherbydragonfly 4 года назад +4

    Bravo...Bravo... Very well explained. I believe you hit the nail on the head. Select the leather for your purpose or article.
    On the note of "genuine leather" avoid it. Many people talk about their genuine leather jacket or bag an I cringe. Leather prices rise and fall as supply and demand are needed.
    Many high-end handbags use very, very thin leather that usually veneered with suede.
    Again, well done.

  • @jakeyjakey4018
    @jakeyjakey4018 Год назад

    usually i watch this guys videos to cringe and laugh but this is actually a really good video

  • @AdeToz
    @AdeToz 4 года назад

    I appreciate the detail you give in this video. Thank you

  • @AlessandroLiVigni
    @AlessandroLiVigni 2 года назад

    Has the video about the type of leather (Top, Full, Corrected, etc.) already been published? I really need it, I'm so confused about this topic!

  • @Agrippa31BC
    @Agrippa31BC 4 года назад +15

    That dominatrix and assless chaps joke was particularly funny coming from you out of all people hahahahahah

    • @mustpaike
      @mustpaike 3 года назад +2

      Yep, had to check the posting date to be sure it wasn't on April 1st of some past year.

  • @spencerama
    @spencerama 7 месяцев назад

    Nice video. So the big question now: Is the leather jacket your wearing vegetable tanned? Who's it made by and where from?

  • @regiseal
    @regiseal 4 года назад +18

    The dominatrix joke😂😂😂

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch 4 года назад +29

    That is a lovely, lovely jacket

    • @moart87
      @moart87 4 года назад +2

      Belstaff makes some great leather jackets 🥳

    • @sofiaelizondo4738
      @sofiaelizondo4738 4 года назад +2

      you are lovely!

  • @casavacia.teatro6513
    @casavacia.teatro6513 Год назад

    What a beautiful and useful video. Thanks a lot. Have you ever visit León (amazing city, at Guanajuato state, in center México)? It has a centennial tradition on leather industry; there are hundreds of families dedicated for generations to tanning, leathercraft, leatherclothing, shoemaking; downtown you can visit malls, markets and stores dedicated to sell nothing but leather goods, one store aside the other. And the most amazing place, the one-block-sized market "La luz", which entirely sells leather for manufacturers.
    Once again, thanks a lot for this very usefull video and the channel itself.

  • @miloligons25
    @miloligons25 4 года назад

    A wealth of knowledge is what you are.🙏

  • @aaronpeta
    @aaronpeta Год назад +1

    Up next on News 5: Arsonist at the shoe store claims he was just trying to verify if the shoes were high quality leather.

  • @My_Alchemical_Romance
    @My_Alchemical_Romance 4 года назад +2

    Video on leather care in general....? Or different care for wallets vs belts vs shoes, etc....? Love the channel!

  • @peternorthe1912
    @peternorthe1912 2 года назад +1

    I don't know who this guy is, but if I ever chose to enter the profession of leather crafting, fashion, and the marketing of it, he would be the guy I would want to educate me on it. Even with the droll humour!

  • @ElNietoPR
    @ElNietoPR 4 года назад +1

    Your videos are very informative! Can you make one on selvedge denim and its history?

    • @charlesbronson240
      @charlesbronson240 4 года назад +1

      Watch Carl Murawski’s video on selvedge denim, great channel all around anyway.

  • @pavementqueen8844
    @pavementqueen8844 2 года назад

    working on a economics project and stumbled across this. thank you for the info

  • @debbushee6970
    @debbushee6970 Год назад

    very interesting video ty i learned alot about the leather i use

  • @saveselovska
    @saveselovska 3 года назад

    Perfect video and the best explanation I ever seen 👏🏻

  • @jacobshigaki1291
    @jacobshigaki1291 4 года назад

    OK this looks great with the new sign

  • @mlgpopcorn9941
    @mlgpopcorn9941 4 года назад

    Hey Raphael. I would greatly appreciate it if you made a video about androgynous styling. If you are for or against it, ways to wear androgynous clothes, etc. Thank you!

  • @lorddiablo8575
    @lorddiablo8575 2 года назад

    Very detail explanation & educational video ... Thanks !

  • @Wladislav
    @Wladislav 4 года назад

    I'll be anxiously waiting for Raphael's chaps guide from now on.

  • @pamelagahan5601
    @pamelagahan5601 2 года назад

    I am a beginner. I had a copper stamp made so I can brand my leather projects but the leather shrinks and distorts it badly. Can you please give me advice. Much appreciated Pamela Tasmania Australia

  • @fixitman347
    @fixitman347 4 года назад +4

    I thoroughly enjoyed this. I do enjoy leather and its great quality. Once again you have educated me. I thank you.

  • @gregorygoldbarth7464
    @gregorygoldbarth7464 3 года назад

    Many feel that Horween is one of the top tier premium tanneries in the world, not only for veg tanned and chrome tanned but shell cordovan!

    • @matttherrien9608
      @matttherrien9608 2 года назад

      I've got English made Doc Martens with Horween and I'm in love! There's a strong likelihood that I'll never buy another pair of boots.

  • @clairecolchester7345
    @clairecolchester7345 Месяц назад

    Which leather should I use for debossing patterns on?

  • @mozaydarrr
    @mozaydarrr 4 года назад +1

    I just come to your videos to see the cool outfits you put on.

  • @TheLatinEmpire-pf9vp
    @TheLatinEmpire-pf9vp 2 года назад

    Recently discovered your channel
    Great work my friend!

  • @JM-iq1sb
    @JM-iq1sb 4 года назад

    Many leather products have a tag in the shape of a hyde make of the same leather as the product, you can burn the leather tag to tell the difference

  • @cheaneysaddles
    @cheaneysaddles 3 года назад +1

    Always nice to learn more about different tanning of leather. Thank you for the information in this video.

  • @HowTheyWeep
    @HowTheyWeep 4 года назад

    Could you wear a black tie dinner jacket with a dark colour such as burgundy instead of black at a black tie dress code or can that only be done at a black tie optional or creative?

  • @InsertMyChineseUsername
    @InsertMyChineseUsername 2 года назад +4

    I was looking for a leatherworking video and somehow ended up here lol

  • @dr.s.p.
    @dr.s.p. 2 года назад

    Excellent video and very educational.

  • @kindyesweakno
    @kindyesweakno Год назад +1

    Excellent video! I’m just getting in to leatherwork and want to know all I can about the tanning process. Thank you so much for the information!

  • @ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz
    @ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz 4 года назад +3

    This was very informative. I'm a leather aficionado and make my own belts and wallets.

  • @henrycollins2478
    @henrycollins2478 4 года назад +1

    Where did you get you weekender bag?

  • @nonbespokeelegance2481
    @nonbespokeelegance2481 4 года назад +13

    Third to be here Raphael! Great video! This is soooo useful since I do a lot of shoes review!

  • @matyasgembala
    @matyasgembala 4 года назад

    Excellent information, also liked the funny parts, they are a nice addition!

  • @melvinjones3895
    @melvinjones3895 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot just what I was looking for.

  • @ForTheLoveOfSuits
    @ForTheLoveOfSuits 4 года назад +1

    Nearly choked on my coffee with the joke near the end. Beautifully timed joke. And great video. I love these in-depth looks at different fabrics. Thanks.

  • @SJJPPPCCCC
    @SJJPPPCCCC 2 года назад

    Is exotic leather also tanned the same ways?

  • @dechalertsumitkul8066
    @dechalertsumitkul8066 2 года назад

    Do you have reviews on buffalo skin deer skin impala skin for leather shoes.

  • @alexanderstark9142
    @alexanderstark9142 4 года назад +1

    It would be great to see a episode on furniture and your recommendations; I love that couch that you’re drinking on!

  • @richardcostello360
    @richardcostello360 2 года назад

    I tend to go with chrome tanned bovine in my "workman" attire (boots and coats) but prefer veg tanned horsehide for dress shoes and more dressy jackets like my Vincenzo horsehide A2 flight jacket, which don't need to be as wet resistant.... and veg tanned Cape/lambskin for the A1 I'm getting made by Thedi

  • @fryambuter3966
    @fryambuter3966 3 года назад

    I'm only a minute in and this is already a great video, thank you so much!

  • @ptvasu1126
    @ptvasu1126 2 года назад

    Good plz update latest technology on beamhouse and retanning n fatliq part

  • @sergiosc92
    @sergiosc92 4 года назад +1

    Love your channel, i think this kind of video is very interesting, you learn about the products you like!
    Keep going the best gentlemen channel

  • @madsborup9659
    @madsborup9659 4 года назад +1

    I never knew I needed Raphael in a leather jacket

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 4 года назад

    Excellent video as always 👏👏👏

  • @waseemabbasofficial
    @waseemabbasofficial Год назад

    Great information ❤ Thanku for giving us a very informative video

  • @ryanmilanovic303
    @ryanmilanovic303 2 года назад +1

    I prefer vegetable-tanned leather for ethical reasons; chromed-tanned leather is more dangerous for the workers manufacturing the garment.

  • @jojopaul6136
    @jojopaul6136 3 года назад

    Could you please tell whether chrome tanned leather can be dyed in our workshop like veg tanned leather.
    Is goat skin 2-3 oz good to.make wallets and also what should be the ideal thickness of leather forr belts?
    I am a beginer
    Regards
    Jo, india

  • @denniskireev9861
    @denniskireev9861 4 года назад

    Hi, thanks for your video. May be you know what type of leather is timberland Kendrick shoes. I don’t know what cream to use to care leather. Please, help me..

  • @Goldenkid1991
    @Goldenkid1991 4 года назад

    Great informative video. Thanks I learnt something.

  • @nicky20111991
    @nicky20111991 3 года назад

    Thank you for this awesome video

  • @dot.4373
    @dot.4373 Год назад

    Can vegtanned leather fail water absorption test?

  • @VishalGupta-od5mf
    @VishalGupta-od5mf 3 года назад

    What brand of leather jacket is your tan jacket?

  • @scottballantine1329
    @scottballantine1329 Год назад

    Great… so detailed… thanks for sharing…

  • @albertomancia3871
    @albertomancia3871 4 года назад

    11:07 I keep playing this back and try to pronounce it with him. Its a great video, thank you!