Also have to get fighters to agree. 5 rounds is quite alot especially given everybody is a novice. It would make more sense to just do 3 rounds. No organisation ever has 4 rounds as the standard lol
if joey knight fought like cracra, true geordie would be singing on the mic. hahaha hella biased on that fight. anyone else fought like cracra they would be praising them.
I’ve said this so many times. Salt, Kenny, slim, and gib are the influencer version of hearns, Duran, sugar ray, and hagler. They all need to fight each other.
Keem has 10x more insight into influencers, the history, and the entertainment aspect than any of the other guys. He may not know boxing well or yall may not like him but there's no doubt he brings value
Geordie still crying about Lil CraCra and Joey Knight. Joey is the main reason for it being boring. Lil CraCra threw WAY MORE punches, he simply boxed more smart. Joey just wants to counter punch, doesn't want to be aggressive at all. Geordie is simply upset that CraCra didn't fall into Joey's gameplan. Joey was too slow and REFUSED to throw first and be the aggressor until the final round. CraCra fight vs Yuddy was entertaining, CraCra fight vs Ace Musa was entertaining. One fight where he's throwing double the punches of his opponent being boring isn't bad.
@@leytonwalker1190bro him beating the other half of the bracket AND yuddy beating AK much easier than he beat cracra shows cracra is at that top level of the tourney. yuddy vs cracra was always a finals level matchup and the fights we’ve seen prove it
Cracra lost to someone who Joey would go beat he’s only still in because walid got took out realistically we should have Joey vs yuddy now the end goal is Joey&deen
Same i do agree should be 1.Deen 2.Ksi 3.Gib 4.At 5.Slim reason gib at3 is he’s a bigger name then slim and everyone slims barely beat gib would beat cleanly and at above slim cause he’s the gatekeeper and as much as slims a better boxer At is the one you gotta beat for a ksi fight garuntee if slim fought at and won ksi would be interested
I love the idea of Kelz vs Chase down the line (both huge, same audience, both were on too hot to handle etc) and then a shot at the title...maybe through the HW Survivor Tag - winner fights against Tempo for the belt
Can Carla fights others people out the division of LW before she fights Elle? Like I'm sorry but she needs to proves herself before she even challenge for double champ status.
I don't think they're biased. I do think if you have a horse in the race you shouldn't get a vote on that specific person though. Keem and any Happy Punch fighter. Leon and Gib & Elle and Geordie and Joey. I think that's fair.
The star power being incorporated in the rankings are dumb. I would understand it being used in tie breakers, but as an actual weight in the rankings makes no sense to me. If you're a big influencer making a debut, people are gonna watch, but if there's no promise of skill in their debut, then they will fade (think about iDubbz for example, despite him being big, his second event flopped but the first succeeded). Thus having star power involved in the rankings is not gonna let people who are actually skilled grow and become stars because they are lower ranked and can be interpreted as someone who isn't as skilled as the fighters higher. People want to see the best face the best (think of Slim v Papi) but if the best are lower ranked, why would I be interested? I want to be entertained, and the skilled fighters will bring that because it won't be as sloppy. Furthermore, imagine someone who is high on star power is lower ranked than a guy who isn't; that fight becomes infinitely more intriguing because the star is fighting upwards. If it were the other way around, people will just interpret that as a filler fight. Think of someone like Islam Makachev in the UFC: he isn't popular with the fans, but his fights do well because people recognize the skill, and want to see (in their opinions) the challenger fight because they believe the challenger is more entertaining. You could also use Jake as an example. A lot of the opponents had high praise accolades which makes the fight intriguing despite the fact that they're not exactly boxing accolades. The moment he started facing bums, his PPVs dropped, even if he is a star in RUclips boxing.
This is what the Top 10 P4P list should look, ignoring star power and only taking skill, strength of schedule and performances into account: 1) DeenTheGreat 2) Jake Paul 3) KSI 4) Slim Albaher 5) AnesonGib 6) Salt Papi 7) YuddyGangTV 8) Lil CraCra 9) Le'Veon Bell 10) Josh Brueckner (AT, Tommy and Idris are not influencer boxers lol)
Interesting list, but Deen, Yuddy, and Cra Cra are amateur/pro boxers too so by your rules they shouldn't be on here ethier. But since there on there, I'll do my own for fun☺️. The following will have influencers and others & is based on pure skill so things might change: 1) Deen 2) Idris 3) Tommy 4) Cra Cra 5) Jake 6) Yuddy 7) Gib 8) Anthony 9) Silm 10) Ksi or Le'Veon
Your list is garbage. KSI hasn't won since January 2023. Deen's opponent was better than Jake's last 3 but Jake was too active to not have above. Also where are Tommy and AT??
@brmawe I consider anyone who had at least 1 *professional* boxing match before fighting influencers to not be an influencer boxer. Deen and all of the other fighters in the lightweight tournament indeed have been in white-collar / amateur boxing matches, but they never participated in any pro boxing matches before joining influencer boxing. On the other hand, guys like Tommy, Idris, AT, Chris Avila, Pineda, Gabe Silva, etc I don't consider for that reason
Your list is obviously biased, look at the commentary alone from true Georgie furing Joey vs Cracra. That was disgraceful and just 1 example. Every person here except mayne Roundhouse has a bias fighter
@@Ricardo0777winner faces loser of gib vs slim* whoever wins the gib fight is no3 in misfits then the other 3 say slim salt kenny fight for no4 no5 say kenny wins he’s no5 behind slim say kenny somehow beats salt then slim we finally get that matchup of gib&kenny to see if gib can hold on to no3
Yes cause it if it was skill deji would be in top 5 when he Barely makes top10 overall other than the lightweights being the most skilled deen&joey deji is arguably the most skilled we just don’t see it cause of his poor opponents and he doesn’t put 100% in
29:00 Small Council is the perfect place for Keemstar in this scene for this moment exactly, he try understands the influencer side of crossover boxing.
Even if Cracra won the tournament, there’s no excitement for him VS Deen. In misfits, it’s not just skill. It’s skill & PERSONALITY. Deen has both, but Cracra is just boring.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 yuddy isn’t boring he just doesn’t have power. In his fights he’s always moving forward and letting his hands go. Kinda like Stephen Fulton.
The personality is easy to build. His RUclips shows his personality more, I feel like he just doesn't feel confident in front of the louder personalities.
Why not makes fights 5 rounds then 😂 if you want a 5th round you can make it happen by just having it as 5 rounds to begin with...
It might be cuz of the boxing commissions that's the only logical reason I can think of
Also have to get fighters to agree. 5 rounds is quite alot especially given everybody is a novice. It would make more sense to just do 3 rounds. No organisation ever has 4 rounds as the standard lol
@@jaywilliams6250 it needs to be odd rounds especially at this low level, because they would call more draws with even rounds
0:00 (little intro of the whole 18 card)
6:26 (Carla Jade vs Nikki Hru) [video frame comes back]
10:52 (Joey Knight vs CraCra)
18:35 (Stake Pro Tournament)
26:29 (Lewis Bowden vs Stokey)
27:14 (Jully vs Pittman)
30:00 (Elle vs Savage)
33:49 (Kelz vs Tobz)
36:20 (HS's future)
38:25 (BIG GIBBER!)
46:20 (Rankings)
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if joey knight fought like cracra, true geordie would be singing on the mic. hahaha hella biased on that fight. anyone else fought like cracra they would be praising them.
yeah its embarrassing
The fact keemstar is apart of this blows my mind
i feel like this is exactly the reason he's a part of it lol
KeemStar is a great choice to be apart of the small council, you gotta be a different special kind of idiot to think otherwise.
Why? Keem has played such a big role in RUclips boxing.
I’ve said this so many times. Salt, Kenny, slim, and gib are the influencer version of hearns, Duran, sugar ray, and hagler. They all need to fight each other.
😂😂😂
Salt v kenny on the undercard of slim v gib
Keem has 10x more insight into influencers, the history, and the entertainment aspect than any of the other guys. He may not know boxing well or yall may not like him but there's no doubt he brings value
Geordie still crying about Lil CraCra and Joey Knight.
Joey is the main reason for it being boring. Lil CraCra threw WAY MORE punches, he simply boxed more smart. Joey just wants to counter punch, doesn't want to be aggressive at all.
Geordie is simply upset that CraCra didn't fall into Joey's gameplan. Joey was too slow and REFUSED to throw first and be the aggressor until the final round.
CraCra fight vs Yuddy was entertaining, CraCra fight vs Ace Musa was entertaining. One fight where he's throwing double the punches of his opponent being boring isn't bad.
Cracra shouldn’t even be in tournament still ur whole para is pointless
He is though so YOUR comment is pointless @leytonwalker1190
@@leytonwalker1190bro him beating the other half of the bracket AND yuddy beating AK much easier than he beat cracra shows cracra is at that top level of the tourney. yuddy vs cracra was always a finals level matchup and the fights we’ve seen prove it
Cracra lost to someone who Joey would go beat he’s only still in because walid got took out realistically we should have Joey vs yuddy now the end goal is Joey&deen
I like gib he's a nice guy but why he's 2 in p4p list he didnt had a fight in a year and half that's not fair
Same i do agree should be 1.Deen 2.Ksi 3.Gib 4.At 5.Slim reason gib at3 is he’s a bigger name then slim and everyone slims barely beat gib would beat cleanly and at above slim cause he’s the gatekeeper and as much as slims a better boxer At is the one you gotta beat for a ksi fight garuntee if slim fought at and won ksi would be interested
Scratch that. Ksi is #1 coming off a loss and a no contest
@@onepiecexvl7619 KSI owns the company what you talking about ?!! Of course he's 1 with or without fights 😂😂😂😂
@@dilara1144 bro thats ultimate glaze
@zerocontrol8735 it's literally the opposite. He's saying K.S.I owns the company so of course their going to say he's number 1. 🤡
I’m glad to see the return of the True Geordie Council
Geordie gotta be blind bruh or just that biased 😂😂😂
I love the idea of Kelz vs Chase down the line (both huge, same audience, both were on too hot to handle etc) and then a shot at the title...maybe through the HW Survivor Tag - winner fights against Tempo for the belt
When is Dad meant to fight? I remember him making a big promo on the Misfits RUclips channel but just haven’t seen him at all
Hopefully not at all
I dont think his promo was for him, it was to throw people off about a mystery fighter
I'll save everyone here an hour... yes, yes they are.
I don't reckon True Geordie or Leon Wills could formulate an unbiased thought
off course the Small Council Rankings is biased and you prove it by putting KSI #1 every time!!
Jully needs a main event man
is Leon moving out of frame to let farts out? lol
Can Carla fights others people out the division of LW before she fights Elle? Like I'm sorry but she needs to proves herself before she even challenge for double champ status.
Keemstar is needed in the small council.
Feed Geordie to tempo arts
I never liked that star power is such a big factor in the P4P lists. It shouldn’t be a popularity contest.
Thank you to the whole council for recognizing this
@@Tristanhamm 🔨🔨🔨
I don't think they're biased. I do think if you have a horse in the race you shouldn't get a vote on that specific person though. Keem and any Happy Punch fighter. Leon and Gib & Elle and Geordie and Joey. I think that's fair.
The Jury being the small council is the WORST idea I ever heard.
The star power being incorporated in the rankings are dumb. I would understand it being used in tie breakers, but as an actual weight in the rankings makes no sense to me. If you're a big influencer making a debut, people are gonna watch, but if there's no promise of skill in their debut, then they will fade (think about iDubbz for example, despite him being big, his second event flopped but the first succeeded). Thus having star power involved in the rankings is not gonna let people who are actually skilled grow and become stars because they are lower ranked and can be interpreted as someone who isn't as skilled as the fighters higher. People want to see the best face the best (think of Slim v Papi) but if the best are lower ranked, why would I be interested? I want to be entertained, and the skilled fighters will bring that because it won't be as sloppy. Furthermore, imagine someone who is high on star power is lower ranked than a guy who isn't; that fight becomes infinitely more intriguing because the star is fighting upwards. If it were the other way around, people will just interpret that as a filler fight. Think of someone like Islam Makachev in the UFC: he isn't popular with the fans, but his fights do well because people recognize the skill, and want to see (in their opinions) the challenger fight because they believe the challenger is more entertaining. You could also use Jake as an example. A lot of the opponents had high praise accolades which makes the fight intriguing despite the fact that they're not exactly boxing accolades. The moment he started facing bums, his PPVs dropped, even if he is a star in RUclips boxing.
This is what the Top 10 P4P list should look, ignoring star power and only taking skill, strength of schedule and performances into account:
1) DeenTheGreat
2) Jake Paul
3) KSI
4) Slim Albaher
5) AnesonGib
6) Salt Papi
7) YuddyGangTV
8) Lil CraCra
9) Le'Veon Bell
10) Josh Brueckner
(AT, Tommy and Idris are not influencer boxers lol)
Interesting list, but Deen, Yuddy, and Cra Cra are amateur/pro boxers too so by your rules they shouldn't be on here ethier.
But since there on there, I'll do my own for fun☺️.
The following will have influencers and others & is based on pure skill so things might change:
1) Deen
2) Idris
3) Tommy
4) Cra Cra
5) Jake
6) Yuddy
7) Gib
8) Anthony
9) Silm
10) Ksi or Le'Veon
Your list is garbage. KSI hasn't won since January 2023. Deen's opponent was better than Jake's last 3 but Jake was too active to not have above.
Also where are Tommy and AT??
@brmawe I consider anyone who had at least 1 *professional* boxing match before fighting influencers to not be an influencer boxer. Deen and all of the other fighters in the lightweight tournament indeed have been in white-collar / amateur boxing matches, but they never participated in any pro boxing matches before joining influencer boxing. On the other hand, guys like Tommy, Idris, AT, Chris Avila, Pineda, Gabe Silva, etc I don't consider for that reason
Le'Veon is Top 5.
So why do you put Leveon Bell on the list? He's not an influencer! He's a former NFL star lol
Is there a rematch clause for slim v gib?
Where is BJ?
Love keem, he brings a whole different perspective
Roundhouse's name is, Riley?
i miss Wade
Your list is obviously biased, look at the commentary alone from true Georgie furing Joey vs Cracra. That was disgraceful and just 1 example. Every person here except mayne Roundhouse has a bias fighter
This bald guy is making me mad
The one on bottom right
There's like 4 bald guys in this video
@@codyjohnson6427 the bottom right
45:15. Perhaps if Gib beats Slim, he should fight KSI. Would be such a big fight. But it's not going to happen.
if not KSI, then the only fight with a storyline and background to it is the Kenny fight, ngl i don't think there is a storyline with Gib and Salt
@@username2828 thats why u do kenny vs papi and the winner faces the winner of slim and gib
Ksi and Gib have been friends for years, they wouldn't fight each other
@@Ricardo0777winner faces loser of gib vs slim* whoever wins the gib fight is no3 in misfits then the other 3 say slim salt kenny fight for no4 no5 say kenny wins he’s no5 behind slim say kenny somehow beats salt then slim we finally get that matchup of gib&kenny to see if gib can hold on to no3
16:37
what is Leon doing? XD
Yes your list is quite biased, obviously. Your list is based on starpower, not skill but popularity.
Yes cause it if it was skill deji would be in top 5 when he Barely makes top10 overall other than the lightweights being the most skilled deen&joey deji is arguably the most skilled we just don’t see it cause of his poor opponents and he doesn’t put 100% in
Star power is dumb
I love these. Love Misfits ❤
True Geordie is an embarrassment
blud (keemstar) thinks he's a part of the team
Gun has only beat mcbroom and jarvis so he ent proved nothing his not a top fighter
First of u said gun nowhere near gib and two he beat jarvis easily who made zanetti quit while sim struggled against him🙏😭
Gib sleeps all of slims opponents
2 racists in here perfect guests
Man said racist if anyone in this call was racist leon would not be there shut up
@@lewisdunhill2111yeah he would lol, I’ve seen leon constantly retweeting and liking candance Owen’s and other right wing Americans tweets
29:00 Small Council is the perfect place for Keemstar in this scene for this moment exactly, he try understands the influencer side of crossover boxing.
Leaving a dislike for keemstar
Why is Keem here?
Bro get Keem out of here
Who is cyborg?
Casual
@@Calmzat if its mma i dont watch it
@@no-nr6decasual
@@Calmzat im a boxing fan. Idgaf about mma
@@no-nr6de former ufc champion
Keem needs to go he shouldnt even be in comversation with leon roundhouse and gordie the guys a melt
He's been apart of influencer boxing since the start
Even if Cracra won the tournament, there’s no excitement for him VS Deen. In misfits, it’s not just skill. It’s skill & PERSONALITY. Deen has both, but Cracra is just boring.
Yuddy is boring too
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 yuddy isn’t boring he just doesn’t have power. In his fights he’s always moving forward and letting his hands go. Kinda like Stephen Fulton.
The personality is easy to build. His RUclips shows his personality more, I feel like he just doesn't feel confident in front of the louder personalities.
@@onepiecexvl7619 I don't mean his fighting style. I mean his personality
Cra cra aint boring to me
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Nah.
12:26 one guy showed up to fight, and one guy showed up to win the fight*
45:54