I’m concerned about having to use your phone to arm in the future. After all it’s DJI. I think the Avata is getting this requirement. And the Avata is a big O3 unit. So don’t update all your air units. ✌️😎
How are people liking the form factor on the googles 2? I'm used to fatshark and way back when eachine box googles. For some reason I really like the size and feel of the DJI v2 over fatsharks. Maybe a little large but compared to a taranis x9-d throwing these in a backpack is nothing.
We should start calling the "Vistas" and the others of that generation "02s". Its an accurate description, and it designates that it is in fact an older tech.
DJI tech is good but its so complicated when you have a lot of different drone (1s whoop,LR 7inch, 5inch, 4inch LR, 1s toothpick) and more if your into fixed wing and rc boats. for me at this time if WALKSNAIL system i simplier and more suited for this hobby paired with ELRS.
I'm satisfied with my 'old' DJI Goggles V2 and Caddx Vista's. WTF OS provides the one missing feature I wanted. I won't be buying any more DJI stuff. DJI is now dead to me. I don't want fewer and fewer features at higher cost with half-assed backwards compatibility. The fact that new DJI firmware doesn't support INAV / Ardupilot is a dealbreaker for me.
I really hope they release an update for the V2 goggles to allow binding to that new firmware. I would consider buying the goggles 2 if I knew I could use my old v2s as spectators for friends
yes. absolutely. i don't want to buy the goggles 2 because i like it to wear my glasses under my v2 goggles. so using the old Vistas, airunits and the new o3 without changing the fw (and loose binding) would be the thing for me. Dji....please do it!!
So originally I thought that RID wouldn’t affect the goggles or FPV system, BUT the requirements for an arm signal from a flight controller means DJI intends to challenge any ground vehicle or other use case. I now won’t be surprised if goggles and/or air units start requiring your phone be plugged in to operate…
@16:25 😂 only flew 3 packs in freezing cold but goggles 2 and vista feels really good! Also running full crossfire locked @150hz. O3 looks crazy good from vids I've been seeing. Thanks for the summary 👊
You are not alone. I grabbed a pair of the G2 goggles with the Avata and was hoping for eventual backwards compatibility. And now they are! Except I wasn't ready to abandon my V2 goggles. I have a son who also flies with me and was going to finally start updating his drones with DJI vistas as well as have him be able to fly my vista drones with his own goggles so we can have a fun digital drone day! NOT! Now, I realize we will have to split our fleet where he has his drones, and I have mine but, thats not very fun. The fact that we would have to maintain 2 different firmwares for our stable of drones kind of blows. Not to mention, you didn't talk about spectating. The majority of the group I fly with are still on V2 goggles and will probably stick to that. So now they cannot spectate me anymore if Im on the latest firmware with no V2 support correct? Yea, its not just YT influencers. Plenty of us were hoping to expand our options with this update, it seems, in DJI ridiculousness again, they have killed off that possibility. Profit-wise it makes sense but once again makes no sense to the actual pilots that supports them. Just my 2 cents. I think I have been flying as long as you have Joshua so Im happy to have a DJI system like this after years of dealing with analog but seriously, DJI always seems to do something to screw us in the end. Oh well. I have some choices to make. Maybe I sell off the G2s and buy a used pair of V2s and call it a day. But I really love the form factor of the G2s. Everyone talks about the terrible fit, but I guess my face is shaped just right because the G2s fit my face fine.
I have 2 V2 goggles, like 20 something Vistas and was going to get the goggles 2 and a few 03 airs when they got backwards compatibility hoping they would all work together seamlessly but now I'm thinking they might be better as separate systems.
It's simple. We can only wear one set of goggles when we fly so more than one goggle is redundant and unneeded. IMO, I'd sell you V2's to pay for your Goggles 2, or some more 03 air units! Easy! Then you can apply this fantastic update and have the very best digital FPV system the hobby has ever seen! Betaflight OSD on your Vistas too, and they become 03 lites! Perfect!!! :)
Yep I'm in same boat currently 20plus vista's. 3x v1 goggles and 1x transmitter1 . Have the avata with g2 . And a few 03 on the way but got no choice but to keep the old system separated from the new system. Mainly so I can have spectators options . And prefer the v1 trans for pincher . Although not much stick time on the trans2 yet. Bardwell has anyone come up with a bec cable for the g2 yet .. hate that little battery pack . 4s liion pack in the pocket lasts so much longer
Has anyone found disappointing that you lose your drone linking when you switch between V2 Goggles and Goggles 2 and viceversa. Oh well, DJI did exceptionally good with this cross compatibility debunking ALL those influencers that implied DJI was going to obsolete Vistas and Air Units, and gave us even full “Canvas” or whatever the new name is. Thank you Josh again, you’re hands down the Jedi of all related to the FPV world.
I absolutely stand by my concern that the vista's days were numbered. I think it would have been irresponsible not to talk about that possibility when somebody said, should I buy into the v2 system today? I'm glad it didn't work out that way. If you're in a cage with a tiger, it's not wrong to worry that the tiger might eat you, even if it ends up not.
@DJI please add manual power limits and 8 Raceband channels to all of the Air units, we need it to fly with other pilots using other video transmission systems. thank you.
people it screws over, people who bought the dji fpv drone combo, i have the v2 goggles and the v2 gray remote and want to bind those 2 products to vista, air units and 03 but i cant without getting goggles 2. I'm annoyed that dji did not consider the v2 and controller 2 to be in the same tech tree even tho they literally come in the dji fpv combo
I mean it's a different protocol entirely, I wouldn't really expect them to support everything at once, they're not running Apple M1 chips on these things after all 🤷🏻♂️
i just bought a vista and use v1 goggles. I would have probably updated them to whatever was newest upon receiving it this week only to be super confused when they don't bind.
DJI makes some great products but, OMG, their software/firmware infrastructure is a complete mess. It feels like every single product is built in a vacuum and then they try to figure out how it works with the rest of the lineup after release.
hi Joshua nice video.Why you have g2 and v2 goggles?The most people of fpv have one pair of goggles so dji with the firmwares you can choose what you want to use.i dont understand what is the problem.Also the avata drone it is not a custom drone its like a mavic.If people not want the restructions and the laws they can make a diy fpv drone.I dont understand the problem.
Why would you own all those goggles? How can you want to strap on those big V2 goggles when you own the Goggles 2 with the OLED screens and half the size and 1/3 the weight? Sell your old gear. Use the money to buy new 03 air units...or BEER or GANJA! lol There is no problem.
@@mafracao sell your v2s, buy an extra set of the g2 and done. I mean, we're talking 0,1% of users where this is an actual problem. The rest just want to find problems.
@@KnizzleHizzle OH FOR SURE, I'm gonna buy goggles 2 for 850euros in europe just cause right? It's just a pocket change for people in 3rd world countries around all the europe...
Management: How can we increase sales? Sales: Lets make an update that makes (backwards) compatibility so complex and weird that customer gonna buy new stuff. Management: deal!
Something something RID probably. The fpv drone isn’t RID compliant according to the faa while the avata is. Food for thought… I’m sticking with my v2s, avata, potato drone, and 03 air units and never updating any DJI firmware again. Nor will I ever buy a half baked DJI product hoping for future upgrades to fix current issues. I don’t have any vistas so the rest doesn’t matter right?
Wish I would have seen this video earlier. I just got V2 goggles, and updated everything. I could not for the life of me bind to my vista.....I had no idea why until I downgraded it.
I just flew a Vista on the new goggles today. I was sure I had seen the camera orientation on the panel that opens when you slide up on the touch pad. I’m not much of a content creator but not happy that my v1 goggles do not work without flashing back the firmware. This is better than DJI doing nothing but I was hoping I would be able to use the old goggles for audience mode ride alongs. I’m hoping that there will be future updates to the older goggles but it probably will not happen. This B-day cake was gluten free.
Just use your smartphone with the Digiview app! Works great and all you need is a decent length USB cable! Plus, how often do you need to use audience mode? I hardly ever have, and when I have had someone who wants to watch me fly, I simply plug in my phone, and they are excited and happy as a lark! I suggest you sell your old gear, and use that money to buy new 03 air units...or whatever! People are dying to grab used gear! We can only wear one set of goggles when we fly, so I for one see no reason to own others, especially when you own the VERY BEST FPV HAS EVER SEEN! Be happy! I see not one thing to complain about! We can only fly with one set of goggles on our head and one controller in our hands.
Yeah but on a phone your ride-along is looking at a phone in their hands. Put goggles on them and they’re doing FPV. You might as well ask, “Why aren’t you flying with your phone screen?”
@@KOrnhOliO1 It’s not the same as having them in the goggles too. Will most likely try to sell the goggles and get another pair of O3 for ride along. Also have another family member that flys sometimes.
@@TechnicallyTom The Goggles 2 can broadcast a wifi signal to any smartphone for people to spectate. But, really, so many upgrades and extra features and compatibility, and spectating is what you really, truly, want to bitch and moan about! FUCK! 😵💫Think it through, Bro...👍
I upgraded the DJI V1 controller to RadioMaster metal Gimbals and love them. The good gimbals won't fit in the DJI Controller 2. And, I don't want the extra weight of separate receivers. I guess I"m stuck with V1.
Bought DJI FPV. Wondering why the update allows the controller 2 to bind but doesn't allow the goggles to connect anymore. Would have been perfect if the controller 2 would work along with the Goggles V2.
I've been using the black FPV v1 controller and really like it but after they stopped selling it I realized what must be happening and bought TX16S Mark 2 to replace it. Still in process of upgrading all my drones to ELRS and it is an upgrade for sure but I'm still a bit annoyed that DJI effectively turned that controller to scrap with this decision. I had been planning on selling it but who would buy it at this point? Had I known this I would have been faster with ELRS upgrade but as it is the black controller has been great so didn't see a reason. Stupid me. Because of all of this I'm not sure if I'm staying with DJI in the long run. I don't want to end up into a situation where I buy something from them and year later it is obsolete and not supported anymore.
Wow Dji is one smart company. They purposely do that to force folks to upgrade and buy their new product in a since. I knew there would be a catch to all this compatibilities
Good job with the table overview. And a bit of a bummer how they did it. Probably would've been okay if they let the V2 goggles be compatible. Wouldn't mind ditching the black controller but not the v2 goggles. And the goggles 2 should support the fpv drone. So that's still holding me back from getting the Goggles 2, the Avata and the O3.
I have the FPV and tested the Avata because the new goggles seemed nice with the better display/lighter build. The range sucks compared to Goggles v2 so that was a dealbreaker for me
I think i’ll upgrade my Vistas for use with goggles 2 and leave my air units on the old one for use with v2s. That way i can feel like i’m still using my old gogs
Huh? Why would you even want to strap on those heavy V2 goggles when you own the Goggles 2 with all their advantages, including OLED screens? Makes no sense. I'd upgrade everything to the new firmware and enjoy the benefits of Vistas being upgraded to 03 air unit lites! With full Beataflight OSD, as we always wanted! if you already own GOggles 2, Dude, upgrade and enjoy the VERY BEST FPV has ever offered us - for ALL of your gear! You've got the dream system! Sell your V2 goggles used, and use that money to buy a couple more 03 air units! Why would you want to keep them, and even more, why would you use them when you have the very best?!
Wait until Dji is forced to follow the remote ID rules coming very soon. All the new gear will be subject to it and will eventually be forced to update and will not work with out it.
also if you fly the avata you have to have your phone connected to your goggles and if your phone lags or disconnects from your goggles your motors will cut out you will fall out of the sky and will need to spend 2 hours cutting down bushes to find your drone ok it took me 2.5 hours to find my drone and yes your drone will over heat and you will lose all video and can not turn on your buzzer i fucking loved my avata now i want my money back
ok so after more testing i found that when i unplug my phone during flight the avata does not cut motors ok so that's good bad news is why did my motors cut out hmmmmmm they cut out at the same time i knock my usb c cable out of my phone when i dropped my phone i guess it was just bad luck now I'm scared to fly my avata it could be a bug in the new firmware its never cut out on me before and I baby this drone because i have acro and racing drones that im hard on avata is just a fpv tool for me so the cut out is not from any hard crashing
I saw Ians video and I want to mention the one thing I’ve thought of. If you want to use your older goggles v2 as audience mode for a spectator to use, that makes it annoying.
What's the word on audience mode? If I'm using Goggles 2 will friends with Goggles V2 & V1 be able to watch my flight? Not only is DJI being waaay too Apple, but they are starting to convolute things like FrSky did. These 2 things will cause the hobby to drop them if they don't start understanding this hobby better
yeah okay, that does seem bullshit, gaining support for G2 kills support for the FGV2 and (to a lesser extent) Controller V1. the FPV GV2 were already an unsure purchase, now it's in a strange limbo of being stuck in the past and the future but not the present. the controller surely could have been brought forward in the firmware update, even if not for O3, same for FGV1
And they also screwed up the Avata by forcing Remote ID. You can no longer fly the Avata without connecting to the phone and the DJI Air App. DO NOT update the Avata firmware to 01.02.00.00
@@dangerous8333 Oh I'm furious. I Have so much DJI stuff, and it's all beginning to become useless. Mini2, DJI FPV, Avata, 2 FPV air units, 5 caddx vista units, 2 O3 air units. 2 V2 goggles. Still can't get the Goggles 2 yet even thought I preordered months ago.
Yeah new avatas will probably ship with the new firmware and no ability to roll back unlike current avata owners. I don’t care about 10 bit color. I bought the avata because I absolutely didn’t want to have to have a phone with me to fly. Having a phone connected to my goggles and also the inability to fly indoors without gps is a deal breaker for me. I’ll never update my V2s or Avata. Or my o3 au for that matter. There’s no secret sauce DJI can put into it that would change my mind period. I like what I bought and don’t need additional features as a trade off for being handcuffed and unable to use them.
Hi Josh. Just finished watching your video, great info, thank you! Newbie drone owner here. I own the original Mavic Air 1, I have very little flight time on it since purchase, because using my phone as a screen is difficult, so I fly like a granny, lol. Will this goggle be compatible with my unit? I'm still trying to figure out all the variations, and models of the DJI lineup, so I'm confused. I watch tons of you videos, so you are my go to guru for all things drone. Thanks for all of your videos.
If this new firmware makes vista / air unit more like O3, why should v2 not be able to connect, as the V2 are compatible with the O3 Air unit? Seems like a deliberate, and if so malicious choice by Dji to forcebly remove back compatibility with V2?
So... I have 3 quads, 3 Vistas, 1 Googles v2 with antenna upgrades, 1200mW hack and so on. I will not change to O3 units because I need to change all the frames and it's not worth it because I'm always use a GoPro Bones (hobbyist cinematic footage and sometimes a little of freestyle) and I'm happy with them, but I'm questioning about this update. If I buy Googles 2 and flash all my Vista units, I will gain more range or penetration? Or will be basically the same that I have now? I mean... the firmware only gave us compatibility, or "unlock" certain RF ability to work more as an O3 unit with a little gain in range and penetration? If we will gain range and penetration only buying Googles 2 using our Vista units, maybe it's worth it. Otherwise, I will keep with all my hardware, because works flawless. You're a great man Joshua, the best RUclipsr and teacher BY FAR. We always learn something with you. Keep the good work!!
2 things are crossing my mind looking at this video(without being a DJI fanboy): 1. why this would be a problem 2. what would be caddx response to O3. In theory, they should have the technology for giving a response.
Hey Joshua, I actually tried updating my goggles v2 on new software and didn’t work. I tried on the FPV series assistant and that worked. I also have the issue with running macOS, goggles v2 struggle to update but I made a video on that with the solution. I have updated to the latest firmware successfully with that method with my v2 Goggles.
I SEE NO NEGATIVES TO THIS UPDATE, FOR 99% OF FPV'ers! 🙄🤷♂🤦♂ This IS an update for the Goggles 2 owners, or people waiting until DJI did this exact update so they could now buy the Goggles 2 and have them work with their existing drones with Vistas in them! PERFECT! 👍They now act almost totally like an 03 air unit, same software in your Goggles 2 and we'll have to see how they perform, after people have a chance to test the Vistas thoroughly with this new update. Sounds like JB thinks the performance might be better! I would not doubt that. Nothing negative for Goggles 2 owners or would be buyers - Everything is positive! 🎉🥳 V2 Goggle owners: This is NOT AN UPDATE FOR YOU. Just do nothing ... Simple. Nothing has changed. Vistas, Links, and 03 air units still work fantastic! 🤘 The ONLY way this is a negative for ANYONE is if you own BOTH the Goggles 2 and V2 goggles and for some unknown reason, want to continue using your V2 goggles. Why would you want to keep using V2 goggles after you have the new OLED, HALF the size, and 1/3 the weight Goggles 2? 👉GOD ONLY KNOWS! 👈 lol But, for you, just sell your V2's and move on to the VERY BEST digital FPV in the history of the hobby! Don't look back. You've got what we always dreamed of having - OLED, small sized goggles!!! Just curious...Why would you still want to use, or even think it's necessary to use your V2 goggles after you have the GIGANTIC upgrade to the Goggles 2? Makes no sense. THIS BITCHING IS DUMB! There are NO DISADVANTAGES to this update for the Goggles 2. The new controller 2 works, the Vistas are now 03 lites, and you have OLED screens with diopters, 1080P in the goggles, 4k/100fps, and all functions just the way we always wanted it to be! Even Betaflight OSD is now with all air units! Why is ANYONE bitching about this?!!! There is no reason too. V2 owners, be quiet, this update isn't for you. Don't update. Everything still works great with all air units with the V2's! Be patient, maybe there's one on the horizon for you s00n?! People....be happy...don't bitch and moan. Nothing is negative in the least bit. 😎🤘
Except can't use v1 goggles and v1 transmitter . I don't like the gamepad style transmitter for pinching . And spectators can't use the spare v1 goggles while flying with g2 ..
@@mx118racer Bro, sorry, but forget the V1's. Tech has moved on and advanced since V1. I'd sell them and use that money for new tech. Somebody will buy them! I too don't like the Controller 2, and Mad's Tech, in his live stream today, said at least 3 times, to not buy the controller 2. IMO, it looks cheap, is at least DOUBLE what it should sell for....look at Radiomaster Zorro, half the price and far superior...especially in quality and look of quality. I'd just get a TX12 mk2 or a Tx16S. Move on from using the built in receviers in the Vistas, 03. No one I know or have ever flown with or talked to, uses a DJI remote. Double the price of what other similar radios sell for and only work with DJI! :(
@@KOrnhOliO1 yea Cheers I hate open source and adding external receivers . Had mates flying with me fail-safe on xfire . I have 1 quad setup with jumper tpro to try convert across. But I think I'll just stick to v1 t1 vista's. For bashing . And just use 03 system for paid chase footage and cinematic stuff .
I think it has something with the OG fpv drone not being RID capable. It’s not listed on the faa sheet of rid compliant drones recently released. It’s just a guess but I think it makes sense. That makes me wonder what’s down the road with the O3 au and RID. Something smells rotten.
If you wanna record a video with an air unit using the DJI goggles 2, you have to start the recording before taking off, and the video for some reason looks in slow motion and has no OSD.
Man I like the V2 big screen like being at the movies they need 2 models a box oled version for cruising and people who prefer box , push the goggles 2 firmware towards racing faster flying with the smaller screens I really get annoyed with the small round lens like you can never get edges perfect for racing you want just the center clear
I wish walksnail was as capable as DJIs hardware. I would switch in a heartbeat Gonna stick with my V2s and Vistas though.. no need for an 03 and not a fan of the goggles 2
@@KOrnhOliO1 I wanted to put an 03 into my QAV - S mini 4. So I can stop using my action cam on it. Save some weight and get a little more flight time. So if I did that.. every time I switch I have to change back to DIY mode, bind to my vista's again. Use my vista's the old fashioned way. Really isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. But why don't I get to use my vista's and single 03 unit like the goggles 2 users get to?. It's annoying. Why does there always have to be a catch. Why can't the goggles 2 and V2 users have the same functionality? It's stupid and exactly why DJI is annoying. I'm just gonna stick to my vista's. Saving a little bit of weight on one quad isn't worth the money to me. I have also flown the Avata with the goggles 2 and I didn't like the new goggles. Don't like the way they fit at all. So I have no desire to get them. It's like DJI is making their old stuff annoying to use so you want to buy the new stuff. As a business model that makes perfect sense. But just shows their care more about making money than making the community happy. The opposite of walksnail. If only they matched DJI in performance I would make the switch.
@@xORLOCKx They just gave us Full Betaflight OSD, on Vistas, that we can also record in our flights! Plus, full compatibility with Goggles 2 and Vistas, Links, and 03 air unit, and that cheap looking, overpriced Controller 2! That's everything we pretty much have been asking for! Sure, other companies will come out with new foam - DJI couldn't make a goggle that fit most people's face if they were given a billion bucks! lol Albert Kim had trouble with them fitting and found another set of new foam and they fit fantastic now. Already out! :) Watch his latest video... Sure, there are some bugs to work around's to fix. But, the overall update is AmaZing! So much of what we've all wanted for soooooo long! Backwards compatibility!! Are you kidding me - no one thought DJI would ever not leave behind Vista owners - but they came through with flying colors! :) Not every little detail has to be perfect for us to be HAPPY AS A CLAM that the things they did give us are great! It's not all 100% perfect each time an update comes out...like and appreciate what we got, and wait for future updates! They are OBVIOUSLY trying very hard!!!! Who expected this update before end of January? ;)
Thanks for this video! In your opinion, is it worth upgrading the v2 goggles to these new Googles 2?? I own the Avata, Dji fpv drone, quads with Vistas and OG air units.
More testing! When the update make the V1 Vistas akt lit the O3 AU will the penetration also improve? That would be nice. Sadly i can not use my V1 Goggles together with Goggles 2.... DJI has again managed to create a wedge between the FPV pilots. Two years ago between DJI and everything else (analogue) and today even between their own products V1 and O3. So as long as you fly alone everything is fine, but isn't the hobby just about having fun together?
Here's what I don't get.... If the latest update causes the Vista to act like an 03 AU and the Goggles V2 can talk to the 03 in 03 mode, then why can't the Goggles V2 talk to the Vista once the latest firmware is flashed, while in 03 mode?
So if You got goggles 2 then there is no problems at all, You can use vista and 03. There is only problem for people who wants to use v2 and goggles 2 at the same time
I did this update on one of my Vistas but had to roll it back. I lost video twice and had to disarm, not sure why. It was easy to roll back and flew fine what I was back on the V2 goggles.
Does it matter what firmware you have on the controller 2? I updated my goggles and og air unit,binded the goggles and controller,I get video but the controller is not working,in betaflight nothing moves when I move the sticks/buttons.
I'm just learning FPV with my dji Avata and want to get into th fpv hobby proper, which new rtf fpv quad should I get to bind with controller 2 & goggles 2?
oof i kinda disliked the black controller anyway but i dont know if the V2 controller makes me feel better. (maybe go for TX16? idk)..goood thing its winter so i have lot of time to consider if i wanna upgrade or not haha. what a gigantic confusing labyrinth it must be for people who just wanna start with fpv
I have the V2 goggles and the biggest gripe is getting jittery video recordings while using rocksteady, even though the video live feed is smooth, also did not recognise my TBS crossfire receiver no matter what uart it was on after putting the code in the cli to use the osd, got round this by switching crossfire to sbus. Having to rebind when switching back to use my old vistas is a pain too. Not perfect by a long way
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for the reply, i know the live feed does not use stabilization, that would not be a good idea, im just saying no jitters on the live feed or the dvr recording just the recording on the 03 with rocksteady stabilization turned on, like a bouncy sort of effect which does not look like vibration you may expect if you had vibration issues.
Honestly it could’ve been much worse. I need to know if the penetration on the vista is just as good in 03 mode so I can pull the trigger on the new goggles.
@JOSHUABARDWELL will the new firmware allow v2 goggles users to use the Grey fpv controller with the Vista? Or does it still remain the same with using the black Mode 2. It would be nice if Vista and the new 03 with the v2 goggles being in sync to use with Grey fpv remote. otherwise you have to carry two controllers.
Im sticking with my v1 goggles on my air units and have goggles 2 only for Avata. If u switch modes back and forth u need to bind them all again. Dont know if u said that or dont
No thanks!!! If this is the best that DJI wants to do for all their existing customers I'll stick with the old V2 and wait until the "next" latest and greatest in the FPV world. While I would like to have both I just can not afford to. I get that DJI is trying to change the market to conform to "their" latest and greatest but I think they will be leaving a lot of us behind. In the long run that could be a good thing because hopefully the day will come when DJI is no longer the dominate tech leader. In the mean time I've got a lot of stuff I can put in the air and have fun with!!!
I am using Vista with goggles 2 and controller 2…. But, get no signal in Betaflight (skystars F722)… can anyone explain how to set Betaflight? Thanks Rüdiger
Should I flash all my Vistas and start using the Goggles 2 as my daily driver? Or stick with the V2 and WTFOS?
v2 w/ good antennas for life!
If there uncomfortable to wear what's the point.
I’m concerned about having to use your phone to arm in the future. After all it’s DJI. I think the Avata is getting this requirement. And the Avata is a big O3 unit. So don’t update all your air units. ✌️😎
Flash em thats what im doing goodbye v2
How are people liking the form factor on the googles 2? I'm used to fatshark and way back when eachine box googles. For some reason I really like the size and feel of the DJI v2 over fatsharks. Maybe a little large but compared to a taranis x9-d throwing these in a backpack is nothing.
I'm still rocking V1 goggles and loving them 😉
Holy shit I'm not updating shit till I watch this again sober tomorrow
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We should start calling the "Vistas" and the others of that generation "02s". Its an accurate description, and it designates that it is in fact an older tech.
Ha! Yeah, FPV is more fun today than ever before..
DJI tech is good but its so complicated when you have a lot of different drone (1s whoop,LR 7inch, 5inch, 4inch LR, 1s toothpick) and more if your into fixed wing and rc boats. for me at this time if WALKSNAIL system i simplier and more suited for this hobby paired with ELRS.
...... when I first heard about this "compatibility" update I thought it was dumb. Yep, still do and I'm not even affected by it.
Sounds like the cheaper V2 Goggles are the best halfway solution
I'm satisfied with my 'old' DJI Goggles V2 and Caddx Vista's. WTF OS provides the one missing feature I wanted. I won't be buying any more DJI stuff. DJI is now dead to me. I don't want fewer and fewer features at higher cost with half-assed backwards compatibility. The fact that new DJI firmware doesn't support INAV / Ardupilot is a dealbreaker for me.
Question.do i need to have betaflight 4.3? Or does wtf os canvass mode works on 4.2?
I really hope they release an update for the V2 goggles to allow binding to that new firmware. I would consider buying the goggles 2 if I knew I could use my old v2s as spectators for friends
yes. absolutely. i don't want to buy the goggles 2 because i like it to wear my glasses under my v2 goggles. so using the old Vistas, airunits and the new o3 without changing the fw (and loose binding) would be the thing for me. Dji....please do it!!
Never. Dji nailed!
My V2 goggles already update to new version that can bind with avata and O3
@@user-ns7mo2rf3u and can't bind old units/vistas together...you must chose
@@ali3n24 you can bind it now. firmware upgrated.
I see now; the goggles 2 and the new air unit are exclusive to each other out of the box. Thank you Mr. Bardwell, I have learned something today.
Exclusive to each other *and* the v2 generation of dji goggles (including the vtx).
What a freaking mess, DJI! 😬
Thanks, Joshua!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Do you even own the DJI goggles
@@BBSlats Of course not. I'm not that stupid.
Then what do you care
@@BBSlats I care about the freaking hobby. If you don't, that's your problem. Not mine.
@@MCsCreations false rants is all your doing here.
So originally I thought that RID wouldn’t affect the goggles or FPV system, BUT the requirements for an arm signal from a flight controller means DJI intends to challenge any ground vehicle or other use case. I now won’t be surprised if goggles and/or air units start requiring your phone be plugged in to operate…
Your so right. That is so concerning. Damn you DJI! Fingers crossed they don’t or we have a way around this
Surprise ! DJI pulled a DJI ! Go figure...
@16:25 😂
only flew 3 packs in freezing cold but goggles 2 and vista feels really good! Also running full crossfire locked @150hz. O3 looks crazy good from vids I've been seeing. Thanks for the summary 👊
You are not alone. I grabbed a pair of the G2 goggles with the Avata and was hoping for eventual backwards compatibility. And now they are! Except I wasn't ready to abandon my V2 goggles. I have a son who also flies with me and was going to finally start updating his drones with DJI vistas as well as have him be able to fly my vista drones with his own goggles so we can have a fun digital drone day! NOT! Now, I realize we will have to split our fleet where he has his drones, and I have mine but, thats not very fun. The fact that we would have to maintain 2 different firmwares for our stable of drones kind of blows. Not to mention, you didn't talk about spectating. The majority of the group I fly with are still on V2 goggles and will probably stick to that. So now they cannot spectate me anymore if Im on the latest firmware with no V2 support correct? Yea, its not just YT influencers. Plenty of us were hoping to expand our options with this update, it seems, in DJI ridiculousness again, they have killed off that possibility. Profit-wise it makes sense but once again makes no sense to the actual pilots that supports them. Just my 2 cents. I think I have been flying as long as you have Joshua so Im happy to have a DJI system like this after years of dealing with analog but seriously, DJI always seems to do something to screw us in the end. Oh well. I have some choices to make. Maybe I sell off the G2s and buy a used pair of V2s and call it a day. But I really love the form factor of the G2s. Everyone talks about the terrible fit, but I guess my face is shaped just right because the G2s fit my face fine.
Makes better sense to just keep using the v1 remote, remote is cheaper than buying a new googles 2 goggles
I have 2 V2 goggles, like 20 something Vistas and was going to get the goggles 2 and a few 03 airs when they got backwards compatibility hoping they would all work together seamlessly but now I'm thinking they might be better as separate systems.
It's simple. We can only wear one set of goggles when we fly so more than one goggle is redundant and unneeded.
IMO, I'd sell you V2's to pay for your Goggles 2, or some more 03 air units! Easy!
Then you can apply this fantastic update and have the very best digital FPV system the hobby has ever seen! Betaflight OSD on your Vistas too, and they become 03 lites! Perfect!!! :)
Is this me? Haha, I could say the same exact thing. I don't know what to do. I'm attached to everything, lol
you just made of money?
@@whitetiana3022 He's got a money tree growing in his backyard! 🤪
Yep I'm in same boat currently 20plus vista's. 3x v1 goggles and 1x transmitter1 . Have the avata with g2 . And a few 03 on the way but got no choice but to keep the old system separated from the new system. Mainly so I can have spectators options . And prefer the v1 trans for pincher . Although not much stick time on the trans2 yet. Bardwell has anyone come up with a bec cable for the g2 yet .. hate that little battery pack . 4s liion pack in the pocket lasts so much longer
Has anyone found disappointing that you lose your drone linking when you switch between V2 Goggles and Goggles 2 and viceversa. Oh well, DJI did exceptionally good with this cross compatibility debunking ALL those influencers that implied DJI was going to obsolete Vistas and Air Units, and gave us even full “Canvas” or whatever the new name is.
Thank you Josh again, you’re hands down the Jedi of all related to the FPV world.
I absolutely stand by my concern that the vista's days were numbered. I think it would have been irresponsible not to talk about that possibility when somebody said, should I buy into the v2 system today? I'm glad it didn't work out that way.
If you're in a cage with a tiger, it's not wrong to worry that the tiger might eat you, even if it ends up not.
DJI is the "monkey's paw" of drone companies. Ask them for something and you'll get it...just not what you were expecting.
@DJI please add manual power limits and 8 Raceband channels to all of the Air units, we need it to fly with other pilots using other video transmission systems. thank you.
people it screws over, people who bought the dji fpv drone combo, i have the v2 goggles and the v2 gray remote and want to bind those 2 products to vista, air units and 03 but i cant without getting goggles 2. I'm annoyed that dji did not consider the v2 and controller 2 to be in the same tech tree even tho they literally come in the dji fpv combo
Oh they considered it. They just don’t care because DJI likes to screw people over ALL the time.
I love the cake analogy haha
I mean it's a different protocol entirely, I wouldn't really expect them to support everything at once, they're not running Apple M1 chips on these things after all 🤷🏻♂️
i just bought a vista and use v1 goggles. I would have probably updated them to whatever was newest upon receiving it this week only to be super confused when they don't bind.
DJI makes some great products but, OMG, their software/firmware infrastructure is a complete mess. It feels like every single product is built in a vacuum and then they try to figure out how it works with the rest of the lineup after release.
hi Joshua nice video.Why you have g2 and v2 goggles?The most people of fpv have one pair of goggles so dji with the firmwares you can choose what you want to use.i dont understand what is the problem.Also the avata drone it is not a custom drone its like a mavic.If people not want the restructions and the laws they can make a diy fpv drone.I dont understand the problem.
Yeah, this is a huge problem for those who own all those goggles and controllers. 1st world problems!
Why would you own all those goggles? How can you want to strap on those big V2 goggles when you own the Goggles 2 with the OLED screens and half the size and 1/3 the weight?
Sell your old gear. Use the money to buy new 03 air units...or BEER or GANJA! lol
There is no problem.
Seriously! Why would you even want to bind both goggles????
@@redhotkai if you use this equipment to work and need a fast switch between them in case of a failure of any kind, its kind of a big deal…
@@mafracao sell your v2s, buy an extra set of the g2 and done. I mean, we're talking 0,1% of users where this is an actual problem. The rest just want to find problems.
@@KnizzleHizzle OH FOR SURE, I'm gonna buy goggles 2 for 850euros in europe just cause right? It's just a pocket change for people in 3rd world countries around all the europe...
With DJI there's always a catch. Still waiting for hdzero.
Management: How can we increase sales?
Sales: Lets make an update that makes (backwards) compatibility so complex and weird that customer gonna buy new stuff.
Management: deal!
I still have the DJI FPV drone, why not compatible with the goggles 2 🤷♂️
Something something RID probably. The fpv drone isn’t RID compliant according to the faa while the avata is. Food for thought… I’m sticking with my v2s, avata, potato drone, and 03 air units and never updating any DJI firmware again. Nor will I ever buy a half baked DJI product hoping for future upgrades to fix current issues. I don’t have any vistas so the rest doesn’t matter right?
I have v1 goggles and use eLRS so it’s over $1000 Australian to get the Goggles 2, so don’t see any reason to upgrade currently.
lol 😂 why am i not surprised of what will happen
Many thanks. You answered all my questions and more. And some great tips as usual.
Wish I would have seen this video earlier. I just got V2 goggles, and updated everything. I could not for the life of me bind to my vista.....I had no idea why until I downgraded it.
Dam I would love the V2 googles with the smaller controller.
I just flew a Vista on the new goggles today. I was sure I had seen the camera orientation on the panel that opens when you slide up on the touch pad. I’m not much of a content creator but not happy that my v1 goggles do not work without flashing back the firmware. This is better than DJI doing nothing but I was hoping I would be able to use the old goggles for audience mode ride alongs. I’m hoping that there will be future updates to the older goggles but it probably will not happen. This B-day cake was gluten free.
U can flip the image like old form
Just use your smartphone with the Digiview app! Works great and all you need is a decent length USB cable! Plus, how often do you need to use audience mode? I hardly ever have, and when I have had someone who wants to watch me fly, I simply plug in my phone, and they are excited and happy as a lark!
I suggest you sell your old gear, and use that money to buy new 03 air units...or whatever! People are dying to grab used gear!
We can only wear one set of goggles when we fly, so I for one see no reason to own others, especially when you own the VERY BEST FPV HAS EVER SEEN! Be happy! I see not one thing to complain about!
We can only fly with one set of goggles on our head and one controller in our hands.
Yeah but on a phone your ride-along is looking at a phone in their hands. Put goggles on them and they’re doing FPV. You might as well ask, “Why aren’t you flying with your phone screen?”
@@KOrnhOliO1 It’s not the same as having them in the goggles too. Will most likely try to sell the goggles and get another pair of O3 for ride along. Also have another family member that flys sometimes.
@@TechnicallyTom The Goggles 2 can broadcast a wifi signal to any smartphone for people to spectate. But, really, so many upgrades and extra features and compatibility, and spectating is what you really, truly, want to bitch and moan about! FUCK! 😵💫Think it through, Bro...👍
I upgraded the DJI V1 controller to RadioMaster metal Gimbals and love them. The good gimbals won't fit in the DJI Controller 2. And, I don't want the extra weight of separate receivers. I guess I"m stuck with V1.
Bought DJI FPV. Wondering why the update allows the controller 2 to bind but doesn't allow the goggles to connect anymore. Would have been perfect if the controller 2 would work along with the Goggles V2.
I've been using the black FPV v1 controller and really like it but after they stopped selling it I realized what must be happening and bought TX16S Mark 2 to replace it. Still in process of upgrading all my drones to ELRS and it is an upgrade for sure but I'm still a bit annoyed that DJI effectively turned that controller to scrap with this decision. I had been planning on selling it but who would buy it at this point? Had I known this I would have been faster with ELRS upgrade but as it is the black controller has been great so didn't see a reason. Stupid me.
Because of all of this I'm not sure if I'm staying with DJI in the long run. I don't want to end up into a situation where I buy something from them and year later it is obsolete and not supported anymore.
Wow Dji is one smart company. They purposely do that to force folks to upgrade and buy their new product in a since. I knew there would be a catch to all this compatibilities
Good job with the table overview. And a bit of a bummer how they did it. Probably would've been okay if they let the V2 goggles be compatible. Wouldn't mind ditching the black controller but not the v2 goggles. And the goggles 2 should support the fpv drone. So that's still holding me back from getting the Goggles 2, the Avata and the O3.
I have the FPV and tested the Avata because the new goggles seemed nice with the better display/lighter build. The range sucks compared to Goggles v2 so that was a dealbreaker for me
@@abu_six19 Did you use the ham file hack?
@@seb-depp no, what’s that?
@@abu_six19 Try this: ruclips.net/video/FXbK32XJgvo/видео.html
@@seb-depp wow! I should’ve researched before returning the Avata 🤦🏽♂️ you think there’s a significant improvement if I do this on my goggles v2?
I think i’ll upgrade my Vistas for use with goggles 2 and leave my air units on the old one for use with v2s. That way i can feel like i’m still using my old gogs
Huh? Why would you even want to strap on those heavy V2 goggles when you own the Goggles 2 with all their advantages, including OLED screens?
Makes no sense. I'd upgrade everything to the new firmware and enjoy the benefits of Vistas being upgraded to 03 air unit lites! With full Beataflight OSD, as we always wanted! if you already own GOggles 2, Dude, upgrade and enjoy the VERY BEST FPV has ever offered us - for ALL of your gear! You've got the dream system!
Sell your V2 goggles used, and use that money to buy a couple more 03 air units!
Why would you want to keep them, and even more, why would you use them when you have the very best?!
Wait until Dji is forced to follow the remote ID rules coming very soon. All the new gear will be subject to it and will eventually be forced to update and will not work with out it.
good update for me as I only have analog rn B)
also if you fly the avata you have to have your phone connected to your goggles and if your phone lags or disconnects from your goggles your motors will cut out you will fall out of the sky and will need to spend 2 hours cutting down bushes to find your drone ok it took me 2.5 hours to find my drone and yes your drone will over heat and you will lose all video and can not turn on your buzzer i fucking loved my avata now i want my money back
ok so after more testing i found that when i unplug my phone during flight the avata does not cut motors ok so that's good bad news is why did my motors cut out hmmmmmm they cut out at the same time i knock my usb c cable out of my phone when i dropped my phone i guess it was just bad luck now I'm scared to fly my avata it could be a bug in the new firmware its never cut out on me before and I baby this drone because i have acro and racing drones that im hard on avata is just a fpv tool for me so the cut out is not from any hard crashing
I saw Ians video and I want to mention the one thing I’ve thought of. If you want to use your older goggles v2 as audience mode for a spectator to use, that makes it annoying.
What's the word on audience mode? If I'm using Goggles 2 will friends with Goggles V2 & V1 be able to watch my flight?
Not only is DJI being waaay too Apple, but they are starting to convolute things like FrSky did. These 2 things will cause the hobby to drop them if they don't start understanding this hobby better
If you have a Vista that's upgraded to 01.01 and bound to Goggles 2, then V1 and V2 goggles cannot spectate.
Thank you! 🥰 Love your work! :D
yeah okay, that does seem bullshit, gaining support for G2 kills support for the FGV2 and (to a lesser extent) Controller V1.
the FPV GV2 were already an unsure purchase, now it's in a strange limbo of being stuck in the past and the future but not the present. the controller surely could have been brought forward in the firmware update, even if not for O3, same for FGV1
And they also screwed up the Avata by forcing Remote ID. You can no longer fly the Avata without connecting to the phone and the DJI Air App. DO NOT update the Avata firmware to 01.02.00.00
It was expected.
Just sucks they didn't tell people from day one. If I purchased it and was out of return period I would be so pissed right now.
@@dangerous8333 Oh I'm furious. I Have so much DJI stuff, and it's all beginning to become useless. Mini2, DJI FPV, Avata, 2 FPV air units, 5 caddx vista units, 2 O3 air units. 2 V2 goggles. Still can't get the Goggles 2 yet even thought I preordered months ago.
It's mandatory for them to sell it with this from mid December. Just don't update.
Yeah new avatas will probably ship with the new firmware and no ability to roll back unlike current avata owners. I don’t care about 10 bit color. I bought the avata because I absolutely didn’t want to have to have a phone with me to fly. Having a phone connected to my goggles and also the inability to fly indoors without gps is a deal breaker for me. I’ll never update my V2s or Avata. Or my o3 au for that matter. There’s no secret sauce DJI can put into it that would change my mind period. I like what I bought and don’t need additional features as a trade off for being handcuffed and unable to use them.
Hi Josh. Just finished watching your video, great info, thank you! Newbie drone owner here. I own the original Mavic Air 1, I have very little flight time on it since purchase, because using my phone as a screen is difficult, so I fly like a granny, lol. Will this goggle be compatible with my unit? I'm still trying to figure out all the variations, and models of the DJI lineup, so I'm confused. I watch tons of you videos, so you are my go to guru for all things drone. Thanks for all of your videos.
good video but what about flying wing setup with no FC since we do not have the temp control option? thanks
If this new firmware makes vista / air unit more like O3, why should v2 not be able to connect, as the V2 are compatible with the O3 Air unit?
Seems like a deliberate, and if so malicious choice by Dji to forcebly remove back compatibility with V2?
So... I have 3 quads, 3 Vistas, 1 Googles v2 with antenna upgrades, 1200mW hack and so on. I will not change to O3 units because I need to change all the frames and it's not worth it because I'm always use a GoPro Bones (hobbyist cinematic footage and sometimes a little of freestyle) and I'm happy with them, but I'm questioning about this update. If I buy Googles 2 and flash all my Vista units, I will gain more range or penetration? Or will be basically the same that I have now? I mean... the firmware only gave us compatibility, or "unlock" certain RF ability to work more as an O3 unit with a little gain in range and penetration?
If we will gain range and penetration only buying Googles 2 using our Vista units, maybe it's worth it. Otherwise, I will keep with all my hardware, because works flawless.
You're a great man Joshua, the best RUclipsr and teacher BY FAR. We always learn something with you. Keep the good work!!
2 things are crossing my mind looking at this video(without being a DJI fanboy):
1. why this would be a problem
2. what would be caddx response to O3. In theory, they should have the technology for giving a response.
Vista are done by DJI, Caddx only put their name on it.
Hey Joshua, I actually tried updating my goggles v2 on new software and didn’t work. I tried on the FPV series assistant and that worked. I also have the issue with running macOS, goggles v2 struggle to update but I made a video on that with the solution. I have updated to the latest firmware successfully with that method with my v2 Goggles.
I was looking to get the googles 2 and keep my googles v2 for people to use for "ride along's". guess not
Everyone saw this coming. We all know this will happen one day. The DJI ecosystem is here.
Joshua, what do you think? Why didn't DGI make Goggles 2 compatible with DJI FPV drone?
I would bet they're working on it. Be patient.
I’d love to know the performance difference of 1200mw with the new RF system
I SEE NO NEGATIVES TO THIS UPDATE, FOR 99% OF FPV'ers! 🙄🤷♂🤦♂
This IS an update for the Goggles 2 owners, or people waiting until DJI did this exact update so they could now buy the Goggles 2 and have them work with their existing drones with Vistas in them! PERFECT! 👍They now act almost totally like an 03 air unit, same software in your Goggles 2 and we'll have to see how they perform, after people have a chance to test the Vistas thoroughly with this new update. Sounds like JB thinks the performance might be better! I would not doubt that. Nothing negative for Goggles 2 owners or would be buyers - Everything is positive! 🎉🥳
V2 Goggle owners:
This is NOT AN UPDATE FOR YOU. Just do nothing ... Simple. Nothing has changed. Vistas, Links, and 03 air units still work fantastic! 🤘
The ONLY way this is a negative for ANYONE is if you own BOTH the Goggles 2 and V2 goggles and for some unknown reason, want to continue using your V2 goggles. Why would you want to keep using V2 goggles after you have the new OLED, HALF the size, and 1/3 the weight Goggles 2? 👉GOD ONLY KNOWS! 👈 lol
But, for you, just sell your V2's and move on to the VERY BEST digital FPV in the history of the hobby! Don't look back. You've got what we always dreamed of having - OLED, small sized goggles!!!
Just curious...Why would you still want to use, or even think it's necessary to use your V2 goggles after you have the GIGANTIC upgrade to the Goggles 2? Makes no sense.
THIS BITCHING IS DUMB! There are NO DISADVANTAGES to this update for the Goggles 2. The new controller 2 works, the Vistas are now 03 lites, and you have OLED screens with diopters, 1080P in the goggles, 4k/100fps, and all functions just the way we always wanted it to be! Even Betaflight OSD is now with all air units!
Why is ANYONE bitching about this?!!! There is no reason too.
V2 owners, be quiet, this update isn't for you. Don't update. Everything still works great with all air units with the V2's! Be patient, maybe there's one on the horizon for you s00n?!
People....be happy...don't bitch and moan. Nothing is negative in the least bit. 😎🤘
I basically agree.
Right up until you are required to connect your phone to provide your takeoff GPS.
Except can't use v1 goggles and v1 transmitter . I don't like the gamepad style transmitter for pinching . And spectators can't use the spare v1 goggles while flying with g2 ..
@@mx118racer Bro, sorry, but forget the V1's. Tech has moved on and advanced since V1. I'd sell them and use that money for new tech. Somebody will buy them!
I too don't like the Controller 2, and Mad's Tech, in his live stream today, said at least 3 times, to not buy the controller 2. IMO, it looks cheap, is at least DOUBLE what it should sell for....look at Radiomaster Zorro, half the price and far superior...especially in quality and look of quality. I'd just get a TX12 mk2 or a Tx16S. Move on from using the built in receviers in the Vistas, 03. No one I know or have ever flown with or talked to, uses a DJI remote. Double the price of what other similar radios sell for and only work with DJI! :(
@@KOrnhOliO1 yea Cheers I hate open source and adding external receivers . Had mates flying with me fail-safe on xfire . I have 1 quad setup with jumper tpro to try convert across. But I think I'll just stick to v1 t1 vista's. For bashing . And just use 03 system for paid chase footage and cinematic stuff .
Full MSP display support for FETtec Alpha as well. Works beautifully!
So you still can not use the new goggles 2 with a DJI FPV drone. But why?
I think it has something with the OG fpv drone not being RID capable. It’s not listed on the faa sheet of rid compliant drones recently released. It’s just a guess but I think it makes sense. That makes me wonder what’s down the road with the O3 au and RID. Something smells rotten.
Great analysis. I love you. First
If you wanna record a video with an air unit using the DJI goggles 2, you have to start the recording before taking off, and the video for some reason looks in slow motion and has no OSD.
I’m guessing maybe they don’t have enough flash space to embed both protocol / signal processing in the vistas ?
I loved the cake analogy !
Man I like the V2 big screen like being at the movies they need 2 models a box oled version for cruising and people who prefer box , push the goggles 2 firmware towards racing faster flying with the smaller screens I really get annoyed with the small round lens like you can never get edges perfect for racing you want just the center clear
I wish walksnail was as capable as DJIs hardware. I would switch in a heartbeat
Gonna stick with my V2s and Vistas though.. no need for an 03 and not a fan of the goggles 2
03 works fine with V2 goggles.
@@KOrnhOliO1 I wanted to put an 03 into my QAV - S mini 4. So I can stop using my action cam on it. Save some weight and get a little more flight time. So if I did that.. every time I switch I have to change back to DIY mode, bind to my vista's again. Use my vista's the old fashioned way. Really isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
But why don't I get to use my vista's and single 03 unit like the goggles 2 users get to?. It's annoying. Why does there always have to be a catch. Why can't the goggles 2 and V2 users have the same functionality? It's stupid and exactly why DJI is annoying. I'm just gonna stick to my vista's. Saving a little bit of weight on one quad isn't worth the money to me. I have also flown the Avata with the goggles 2 and I didn't like the new goggles. Don't like the way they fit at all. So I have no desire to get them. It's like DJI is making their old stuff annoying to use so you want to buy the new stuff. As a business model that makes perfect sense. But just shows their care more about making money than making the community happy. The opposite of walksnail. If only they matched DJI in performance I would make the switch.
@@xORLOCKx They just gave us Full Betaflight OSD, on Vistas, that we can also record in our flights!
Plus, full compatibility with Goggles 2 and Vistas, Links, and 03 air unit, and that cheap looking, overpriced Controller 2! That's everything we pretty much have been asking for!
Sure, other companies will come out with new foam - DJI couldn't make a goggle that fit most people's face if they were given a billion bucks! lol Albert Kim had trouble with them fitting and found another set of new foam and they fit fantastic now. Already out! :) Watch his latest video...
Sure, there are some bugs to work around's to fix. But, the overall update is AmaZing! So much of what we've all wanted for soooooo long! Backwards compatibility!! Are you kidding me - no one thought DJI would ever not leave behind Vista owners - but they came through with flying colors! :)
Not every little detail has to be perfect for us to be HAPPY AS A CLAM that the things they did give us are great!
It's not all 100% perfect each time an update comes out...like and appreciate what we got, and wait for future updates! They are OBVIOUSLY trying very hard!!!! Who expected this update before end of January? ;)
@@KOrnhOliO1 except that me.. a V2 user.. doesn't get OSD on my vistas.. I only get that if I buy the new cool hottest sweet goggles 2
@@xORLOCKx Sure, but maybe we're next! I have V2's also. I would have bought the Goggles 2 already if they had a video in for analog and my whoops. :)
Thanks for this video!
In your opinion, is it worth upgrading the v2 goggles to these new Googles 2?? I own the Avata, Dji fpv drone, quads with Vistas and OG air units.
More testing! When the update make the V1 Vistas akt lit the O3 AU will the penetration also improve? That would be nice. Sadly i can not use my V1 Goggles together with Goggles 2.... DJI has again managed to create a wedge between the FPV pilots. Two years ago between DJI and everything else (analogue) and today even between their own products V1 and O3. So as long as you fly alone everything is fine, but isn't the hobby just about having fun together?
Has anything changed for the better in the last 5 month's?
Here's what I don't get.... If the latest update causes the Vista to act like an 03 AU and the Goggles V2 can talk to the 03 in 03 mode, then why can't the Goggles V2 talk to the Vista once the latest firmware is flashed, while in 03 mode?
I have the original Mavic Air. Will these goggles work with it? Or do you recommend some that will work?
So if I don't do the update, I can use my V2 Goggles with the new air unit and obvusulsy the original air unit or the Vista unit
So if You got goggles 2 then there is no problems at all, You can use vista and 03. There is only problem for people who wants to use v2 and goggles 2 at the same time
Correct.
Step 1 in locking older stuff out to screw you into spending more money, just like they do with all their other (non-FPV) products…
I did this update on one of my Vistas but had to roll it back. I lost video twice and had to disarm, not sure why. It was easy to roll back and flew fine what I was back on the V2 goggles.
Does it matter what firmware you have on the controller 2? I updated my goggles and og air unit,binded the goggles and controller,I get video but the controller is not working,in betaflight nothing moves when I move the sticks/buttons.
If the goggles 2 worked with my smart controller and had video out WITHOUT the OSD I'd be swayed a bit more.
I'm just learning FPV with my dji Avata and want to get into th fpv hobby proper, which new rtf fpv quad should I get to bind with controller 2 & goggles 2?
Can I also use the DJI Integra Goggles with an old DJI Air Unit?
If the power in a updated vista can not be change, what's the output power? If the the drone is disarm the output power its 25mw? Thanks
oof i kinda disliked the black controller anyway but i dont know if the V2 controller makes me feel better. (maybe go for TX16? idk)..goood thing its winter so i have lot of time to consider if i wanna upgrade or not haha. what a gigantic confusing labyrinth it must be for people who just wanna start with fpv
So I'm still screwed with my old DJI box type googles except for with my Mavic, right?
I have the V2 goggles and the biggest gripe is getting jittery video recordings while using rocksteady, even though the video live feed is smooth, also did not recognise my TBS crossfire receiver no matter what uart it was on after putting the code in the cli to use the osd, got round this by switching crossfire to sbus. Having to rebind when switching back to use my old vistas is a pain too. Not perfect by a long way
Video live feed does not show stabilization. If you're getting jitters, soft mount your camera.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for the reply, i know the live feed does not use stabilization, that would not be a good idea, im just saying no jitters on the live feed or the dvr recording just the recording on the 03 with rocksteady stabilization turned on, like a bouncy sort of effect which does not look like vibration you may expect if you had vibration issues.
Btw: in Australia rooting something (not routing)is f#€king it up. ie that thing is rooted. 🤣🤣
So if you upgrade to the new firmware the black Tx controller will not work? If not which controller would you use?
Honestly it could’ve been much worse. I need to know if the penetration on the vista is just as good in 03 mode so I can pull the trigger on the new goggles.
Thank dear..one more time!! ..any news If googles 2 are compatibles with dji fpv drone?
No they aren't.
Well, they wanna sell the new Googles and don’t compete with themselfs
So they say a big FU to the existing customers that have spent $$$$ on their projects. Goodby DJI!
My occusyn air unit is feeling abandoned and neglected right now
I’m just getting into this. If I have goggles v2, controller 2. Am I better off getting quad with o3 unit?
@JOSHUABARDWELL will the new firmware allow v2 goggles users to use the Grey fpv controller with the Vista? Or does it still remain the same with using the black Mode 2. It would be nice if Vista and the new 03 with the v2 goggles being in sync to use with Grey fpv remote. otherwise you have to carry two controllers.
Im sticking with my v1 goggles on my air units and have goggles 2 only for Avata. If u switch modes back and forth u need to bind them all again. Dont know if u said that or dont
Why DJI make it so Complicated ? is so far compared to analog goggle
i agree
This might mean the Vista no longer has a 13km limit..
Now this is interesting!!!
Is the same video series good to watch with the building the xilo v2 kit you made?
No thanks!!! If this is the best that DJI wants to do for all their existing customers I'll stick with the old V2 and wait until the "next" latest and greatest in the FPV world. While I would like to have both I just can not afford to. I get that DJI is trying to change the market to conform to "their" latest and greatest but I think they will be leaving a lot of us behind. In the long run that could be a good thing because hopefully the day will come when DJI is no longer the dominate tech leader. In the mean time I've got a lot of stuff I can put in the air and have fun with!!!
Well, this is mainly to get the g2 to work with old Vistas so you're not losing anything if you just do this update :-)
I am using Vista with goggles 2 and controller 2…. But, get no signal in Betaflight (skystars F722)… can anyone explain how to set Betaflight? Thanks Rüdiger