@@AbeckeyI feel like E7 is pretty f2p friendly. It's one of the few gachas that I never felt like I had to spend (sure in part because almost all packs seems overpriced for what it gives). Played for 1 year and a half so far, and I get pretty far on Arena and decently on RTA. PvE wise I can do endgame stuff (with some struggling) and I got almost all RGB units and around half or more than half of the ML5s.
What they don't say in the patch notes is that the demiurge mission summons also don't contribute to the mileage system anymore, which is way worse in my opinion cause they're also decreasing the ether. So you have less currency to pull on the demiurge banner and the 60 you get for free doesn't cause towards mileage. This one could be a bug cause they haven't addresed it or it could be a sneaky way of nerfing f2p even more Edit: THIS IS NOT A BUG !! the currency you get from the missions specifically say that they wont contribute to mileage !!! This is a f-cking sneaky and just disgusting change that they didn't high-light in the patch notes they just lumped them in with the regular summon tickets. Lol im certainly not going to be spending more time with this game. Man, i just started playing after 2 months and this is what i come back to XD
Totally forgot to mention that in the video lol but yeah this is the current reality of the situation. They have still not replied after such a big fiasco which is concerning
As day 1 E7 player. Im not that surprised. SG is well known to do this kind of greedy shit from time to time. IF there is no serious backlash, they just gonna roll it and DGAF. I play E7 for yearss but i always be cautious of SG. Dick move for sure
VA Games and SG combined here. At least in E7 you can put 100% blame on SG but here the development side is managed by VA Games so it was most likely a joint decision to screw over people lol
This game doesn't have the biggest community, and now they do this... do they even want the game to be a success? It makes me wonder. This is indeed a huge problem, unless they revert the changes. So friggin' disappointing. They were doing so good lately with bringing QoL and other improvements to the game... oh well. Good video though.
Ikr they have a small but tightly knit and engaging community. They were doing so good by having good updates with fresh content, champions, events. They fucked up big this time and need to revert these changes or the numbers are only going to go down.
part of the problem is that they gave out a lot of free stuff at 100 days that we were still riding that wont be there in the future, and without that bonus people would be spending to hit mileage
Hello I'm an e7 player and not long ago smilegate tried to implement a whale system of constellations like in genshin locking some old and new characters kits potential behind dupes instead of balance patches. The community soared and got really mad especially korean and chinese and made itself very vocal about it, as a result smilegate removed entirely the feature and we received compensation. Thus they also promised they will never try to tackle the dupe system again so make yourselves heard, I don't play outerplane but we are kinda on the same boat·
in genshin it isnt even that bad since its pve only. but in E7 the endgame focus is primairly PvP. immagine people have to pull for dupes to compete in rta lmao. in genshin people are smashing stuff without gacha at all. thats how casual it is.
I can see why they did it. I got every character except normal Stella and Epsilon, and I'm sitting on 688 mileage. I usually get the new unit with the tickets early. The free 2 daily Demiurge summons, basically got me all of the D. units for nothing too.
Agreed but this was not the way to do this. Suddenly taking away the mileage through tickets and ether is not the way to justify their thought process even though we love the game and want it to make money at the same time. They should have consulted the players before doing these changes since this move leaves bad press for the game.
I'm a day one player. I was looking foward to the game. I was enjoying the game. It's been 6 months and I'm heavily disappointed. No content pretty much at all, these nerfs to the mileage system, useless tickets, less ether... I'm honestly thinking to drop the game. Plus the UI is always laggy. Fack off with the changes devs.
i am come back play outerplane in half aniversary, but change bad decision's no pit and reduce eter much sad, i am wait good changes and no play any baners...
maybe because they are earning very low whenever I saw those mobile games earning list I always see outerplane at red (meaning the earning is lowering) and I never saw them earn higher than $600K every month as a publisher with a lot of staff to pay their salaries I guessing that amount of earning isn't enough. just my personal opinion.
Hey Cypher. Just jumping in to ask. Are you going to keep track of this (because something like a hotfix patch isn't their thing,but they asked for feedback on dc..who knows if they listen or let it crumble) or you move on somewhere else too?
i have posted my issue with the changes on your previous video smilegate as the publisher how are they given the reigns to change the stuff which VA Games as developer should be the one making the decision
I think this might be VA Games and SG both collaborating to make the changes. Though the changes on the dev side are done by VA Games since SG doesn’t handle game development for them
I've been playing every day since day one. I'm f2p, I have almost every character, most of them are 5 star. I missed my first day when I found out "event" tickets actually meant "all fucking free tickets". I'll probably never play again.
as a free to play user this is a sad news It means I can't save millage anymore to buy a unit I want but base on the income list I always saw whenever a honkai star rail content vlogger show I always see outerplane on the lower part of the list and it's always at red meaning it's income keeps on dwindling and I never saw their income come above $600k maybe this is the reason they limit a lot of free stuff to free to play player so some players buy their product and increase their earnings as a free to play player that is sad but If it will make the game survive for long I guess I'll just accept it I mean I not paying anything to play their game I have to rights to complaint. this is just my personal opinion.
I'm lucky as fuck as a free to play player, I have every character and 92k Ether saved with maybe 3 pitties stored up, been playing since soft launch. as I can't blame them for this if my account is even close to the norm, I still don't like it. The only money I've spent is on costumes, and damn they are nice.
Totally agree, a really grimm future has just casted on this game... I would not expend again on this game because I don´t expect it recovering from this punch. Call me a negativist but this game just killed itself by their half year aniversary...
I am f2p played since day 1 but I quit during christina or whatever that flame bruiser was like 4 banners ago or whatever. good thing i stopped playing then cause i cant believe its getting worse
i agree but even as f2p there just wasnt enough there to keep me interested. i did enjoy the pvp in terms of gameplay but the dailies were just mindless grind to get pull currency and gear which were more of a dopamine button than any kind of fun gameplay. i actually did read the story and i liked it, but they didnt even make a hard mode story for chap 2 and no voice acting has always been a downer. theres just so many other games on the market that are also free its hard to choose this one any longer@@cypher4202
i started playing right before this update i have my original account which is ok then i have my reroll account which is slowly catching up and i noticed that on banners that you could use tickets the mileage wasnt increasing at all on my first account i got normal drakhan and a few others with mileage no complaints thought the game was good now im working on getting demiurge drakhan with barely any mileage and no increase on any banner for mileage and it sucks when i first started i was thinking the game had a decent pity system but the devs went and fucked it up
it is so crazy, the biggest selling point of this game is how much F2P friendly it is. I started last month because of this and loved the game. But if it changes, they will loose a lot of potential players when it's now that they should focus on getting them instead of milking those they have already.
Well, you can always do a lot of noise. We did it on Epic Seven because of that new awakening system, and they decided to scrap the whole system because of the outrage.
I was unlucky and get almost all my last heroes only from 200/200 mileage - and with this new changes the overall situation will became even worse. But i am ready to drop this game - it was not bad, but not awesome. Shall invest my time in another fun projects... 😏
I feel ya some summoning sessions are just straight up bad and that’s why pity/mileage is a nescessity. I am not going to quit yet but if these changes are not reverted I might be close to that situation
Note that the new CEO of smilegate was the VP of NETMARBLE, so the stingy mfker got greedy, well for epic seven the community was so vocal about it and Chinese and Korean community sent protest trucks so the potentially game ruining change was cancelled , if outerplane community would also be vocal about this then it will be prevented too
Damn that sucks…no wonder even E7 felt the brute force of P2W coming but thankfully their community is much larger so they can protest. Hoping they revert the changes here as well
it's so goofy b/c they had a free pass on community goodwill with this event. a layup of "here's 200 free LIMITED PULLS" into the slam dunk of "guess what... it's also a free LIMITED 3 STAR!" fumbled, lol.
Man this just sucks! I recently returned to the game to collect my third Demiurge unit and i realize that the tokens we get from the Demiurge mission dont count in the mileage.. At first i thought it was a bug but after i used my ether, the mileage went up! I was highly disappointed when i saw the numbers go up after using my ether.. It hurts to know that they went this route. What they shouldve done is to give us more ways to get the Demiurge tokens for us to keep playing.. Like through Arena or/and weeklies.. They've just made it harder for new and existing player to get the Demiurge unit they want. I came after seeing how cool Demiurge Drakhan looks and now since they've disband the mileage with the tokens its harder to even go to pity and get her! It sucks man. It does not feeling rewarding as it did before.
Worst day for f2p. It's even effects dolphins i guess. This is killing garantee recruit system for all f2p players. It's sad, rlly sad. Earlier you could save up ether for demi heroes and recruit some heroes with tickets and still had garant hero with milliage accumulation. You could have some new heroes anyway Now you can't get much ether for demi and can't accumulate milliage because this tickets don't count. No garant. No new heroes. GG. Death for game
They forget 1 thing. Whales and dolphins gives you money, f2p gives you big and active community with creative fandome which gives you free advertisement
Legit nothing can be done as a F2P now. You would need to get super lucky in your summons to have a chance of staying viable. Mileage is a must in any game and acts as a failsafe for bad luck in gacha games.
@@cypher4202 yep. I think it was fastest drop from best gacha game for newbie and f2p to worst, that i can remember. and they did it all in one anniversary. hillarious 🌚
BROWN DUST 1 AKA BRAVE NINE HAVE SIMILAR SYSTEMS WHERE TICKET DOES NOT COUNT TO MILAGE ONLY GEMS DOES , BUT OUTERPLANE DOES IT BUT NOT TRANSPARENT ON IT , have been playing since day one , now may be since the changes, there other games out there who respect it player , there is saying whale 🐋 follow f2p , 💰 f2p gone , 💰 bye
I dropped this game months ago. To be honest i really like the game, it is fun to play, generous, addicting mediocre but pleasant graphic, nice va and the story was creative. I dropped it because of game fatigue(no sweep). Sad to see it becomes worse
@@cypher4202they should just make it free sweep, farming for sweep tickets defeat the whole purpose of sweep because you need extra step to sweep. If you are not big company like mihoyo that has high player retention rate(especially if your game has outdated graphic), you should not competing to squeeze out others game (because player only 24 hours per day), you should be looking to coexist with others game by making the dailies as fluid as possible.
@@cypher4202the issue is that this is limited meaning after a few days/weeks this banner goes bye-bye, so what are the new players going to do to get this character? Nothing, they're fucked.
Cypher my guy, you give the devs too much benefit of the doubt. Its not cos they did this after the fact that they planned the 200 tickets, nor because they were lazy and this wasnt well thought out. It was always planned from the start, this half year anniv was always a great time to give these seemily generous rewards to permanetly change this game going forward, which was why they were sneaking it in. This isnt coming from your avg dev, but the suits in power that make all the decisions. Looks like having those annoying pop ups alone wasnt enough. Taking a little at a time over and over and giving your temporary rewards is how they slowly make it into a very toxic to f2p game.
Yeah I might be naïve here but they hadn’t pulled such a big fuck up ever since CBT. They only improved the game. This was the first and the probably the biggest P2W change, henceforth, I gave them the benefit of doubt. Still hoping that they reverse the changes
Netmarble guy tried killing e7 but e7 community is big and bit his ass, unfortunately outerplane as a newer sg game doesn't have the community to fight back against netmarble guy. Rip outerplane.
I have a feeling that they gonna add paid and unpaid ether feature into the game and make the pity system only for paid ether and at that point... I strongly recommend f2p players to not play the game at all. Even hoyoverse is not this greedy istg. 😂
Overpriced packs. Poor deals within said packs. Overpriced skins. Are some of the things they could have tapped on to fix these issues. Lower the BP to normal BP prices 5-8 bucks. All those could help. For me? I don't care about packs, but I do like skins but I won't buy a 22+ dollar fucking skin in any game ever. 15 is my cap on that. I also wouldn't buy skins that add stats because that's some bullshit.
Yeah skins are a tad bit overpriced ngl but the BP seems decently priced compared to other games. Skins don’t give stats here. These changes need to be reverted ASAP tho
After the demiurge summon system I alrdy stopped playing. It’s 10x worse than epic seven moonlight summons. Hopefully this game will eventually get better. For now tho, I’m not touching this game with a 10 inch pole. Also, shouldnt they be more focused on adding newer content?? Seems like doing this method makes it 10x worse than it was before
Im not sure if people are memeing about smilegate being f2p friendly.. when epic7 community is still refreshing the shop up to this day just to get bookmarks and sht. .. they will make your work your ass off just To get 5 bookmarks. .. gwars and rta is full of ml5 .with the same def and offense.. you think outerplane is gonna be different? .. nope. They will prolly introduce another tedious way of getting them to promote spending. This is korean culture. Lost ark.. i dont even wanna discuss this. Rip outerplane community.
Tbf they are much better value than E7 or SW or RAID. The current changes are the only negative impact for the game. Hoping they reverse them before its too late
This is weird since it was never in EoS territory. It still made a healthy 400-500k monthly. No clue why they felt the need to be scummy all of a sudden
I play since day one. This is the kind of game i love and i can play for years. I'm cashplayer. Top 20-30 in pvp arena. But this new update with lot of downgrades and empty "half celebration (lol)" (seriously celebration!!???) is only shame and sh*t. I stopped. Uninstall.
Mad respect for you mate and I agree that these changes are simply horrible. Honestly not disappointed with the half anni outside of these horrible changes
idk what it is but to me the game felt so forgettable? like nothing was fun or unique the characters are generic as fuck and so is the plot. its downgraded version of e7 but with 3d animations. played it for a day and uninstalled.
Yall to negative, its a free game. They need money somehow to give us quality content. Otherwise this game would probably be trash. It really is one of the best free to play mobile gatcha games. The story is great and engaging and the cast of charecters is awesome. The only thing this game is really missing is just more content in general. More things to do is what i want. After you beat everything you just have pvp to do. I have all the charecters except two, and thats by choice. I haven't spent any money. Just play the game, you will get their eventually. Patience.
As I said this is the best F2P game but suddenly taking away all the good stuff in 1 day without consulting the community at large is not a good sign. Patience is find but silence over getting screwed is not. I love the game and want them to make money at the same time but not like this
Dude they can't have a F2P experience so friendly that they're literally not churning a profit. So if you want to keep the servers going then clearly cosmetics aren't enough. Also there are less than 50 characters so your RNG chances with 3 stars is still strong. I get that it sucks. But trust me play other gatcha games like RAID SHADOW LEGENDS and you'll be thankful for a game like this. The people leaving this game play a different gatcha every 2 months so whatever
I agree that getting heroes is super easy in OP but I think they needed to consult the playerbase first before making such drastic and bad changes. They could’ve simply followed the E7 model
@@cypher4202 character acquisition I think is fine, ya they could of announced the change or just done it the same has E7, but they didn't and that kinda sucks. However it's not the end of the world. My honest complaints are more for getting T10 materials and gems. But hey F2P I got sigma in what maybe 2 months and with only using lvl1 gens at best. So all in all I'd say pretty decent experience.
SG last ditch effort to milk their budget 7. If this kinda shyt happened to e7, their community will literally kill them. They know they can get away with their other game.
Oh that is unfortunate to hear. Thought this game was pretty good. But had to drop it because I was playing too many things at once. I'd heard some concerning things here and there about it. And seeing this is disappointing.
The game used to be the best F2P recommendation from my side for people who love turn based games. With the current changes, I won’t recommend it to anyone. Hoping for a quick reversal
From most f2p to most stingy it’s actually so disappointing I was so hyped for the update , by the way wish you fast recovery
For now the most f2p friendly gacha games are: Eversoul and Action Taimanin (the 3d action game - not those 2d version with chibies).
Thank you mate! Totally agreed, this was a dick move by them.
Langrisser once your high enough never spend $ again
@@Abeckey epic seven is really a f2p friendly like i get most of the heroes as a f2p
@@AbeckeyI feel like E7 is pretty f2p friendly. It's one of the few gachas that I never felt like I had to spend (sure in part because almost all packs seems overpriced for what it gives). Played for 1 year and a half so far, and I get pretty far on Arena and decently on RTA. PvE wise I can do endgame stuff (with some struggling) and I got almost all RGB units and around half or more than half of the ML5s.
What they don't say in the patch notes is that the demiurge mission summons also don't contribute to the mileage system anymore, which is way worse in my opinion cause they're also decreasing the ether.
So you have less currency to pull on the demiurge banner and the 60 you get for free doesn't cause towards mileage.
This one could be a bug cause they haven't addresed it or it could be a sneaky way of nerfing f2p even more
Edit: THIS IS NOT A BUG !! the currency you get from the missions specifically say that they wont contribute to mileage !!!
This is a f-cking sneaky and just disgusting change that they didn't high-light in the patch notes they just lumped them in with the regular summon tickets. Lol im certainly not going to be spending more time with this game.
Man, i just started playing after 2 months and this is what i come back to XD
Totally forgot to mention that in the video lol but yeah this is the current reality of the situation. They have still not replied after such a big fiasco which is concerning
I just uninstalled. I dont think this game is making 1 year😂
Same, uninstalled today. GL Outerplane, it was nice knowing you...
speaking of epsilon i got destroyed on the banner 160 summons and nothing came
As day 1 E7 player. Im not that surprised. SG is well known to do this kind of greedy shit from time to time. IF there is no serious backlash, they just gonna roll it and DGAF. I play E7 for yearss but i always be cautious of SG. Dick move for sure
VA Games and SG combined here. At least in E7 you can put 100% blame on SG but here the development side is managed by VA Games so it was most likely a joint decision to screw over people lol
This game doesn't have the biggest community, and now they do this... do they even want the game to be a success? It makes me wonder. This is indeed a huge problem, unless they revert the changes. So friggin' disappointing. They were doing so good lately with bringing QoL and other improvements to the game... oh well. Good video though.
Ikr they have a small but tightly knit and engaging community. They were doing so good by having good updates with fresh content, champions, events. They fucked up big this time and need to revert these changes or the numbers are only going to go down.
Pity for WHALES only is crazy lol 😂
Bro they did a big 180 on us lmao 🤣
part of the problem is that they gave out a lot of free stuff at 100 days that we were still riding that wont be there in the future, and without that bonus people would be spending to hit mileage
Hello I'm an e7 player and not long ago smilegate tried to implement a whale system of constellations like in genshin locking some old and new characters kits potential behind dupes instead of balance patches.
The community soared and got really mad especially korean and chinese and made itself very vocal about it, as a result smilegate removed entirely the feature and we received compensation. Thus they also promised they will never try to tackle the dupe system again so make yourselves heard, I don't play outerplane but we are kinda on the same boat·
very vocal is an understatement. A few guys hired a van with an ad to circle around the SG HQs telling them to not do it lmao
in genshin it isnt even that bad since its pve only.
but in E7 the endgame focus is primairly PvP. immagine people have to pull for dupes to compete in rta lmao.
in genshin people are smashing stuff without gacha at all. thats how casual it is.
Yeah, I am dropping this game and moving on to Black Clover at the end of the month. 😅
Man that game pulled the same dick move for global. Nerfed everything before global launch
@@cypher4202 what, really? Hmm, we will see how it is. 🥲
I can see why they did it. I got every character except normal Stella and Epsilon, and I'm sitting on 688 mileage. I usually get the new unit with the tickets early. The free 2 daily Demiurge summons, basically got me all of the D. units for nothing too.
Agreed but this was not the way to do this. Suddenly taking away the mileage through tickets and ether is not the way to justify their thought process even though we love the game and want it to make money at the same time. They should have consulted the players before doing these changes since this move leaves bad press for the game.
I'm a day one player.
I was looking foward to the game.
I was enjoying the game.
It's been 6 months and I'm heavily disappointed.
No content pretty much at all, these nerfs to the mileage system, useless tickets, less ether...
I'm honestly thinking to drop the game.
Plus the UI is always laggy. Fack off with the changes devs.
i am come back play outerplane in half aniversary, but change bad decision's no pit and reduce eter much sad, i am wait good changes and no play any baners...
Absolutely agree
The changes are horrible
From amazing generous game to a extremely greedy game in a day
Exactly my thoughts! These changes need to be reverted or its game over for OP
maybe because they are earning very low whenever I saw those mobile games earning list I always see outerplane at red (meaning the earning is lowering) and I never saw them earn higher than $600K every month as a publisher with a lot of staff to pay their salaries I guessing that amount of earning isn't enough. just my personal opinion.
@@kyoroshizannarra2857 Where Can you check these infos?
Hey Cypher. Just jumping in to ask. Are you going to keep track of this (because something like a hotfix patch isn't their thing,but they asked for feedback on dc..who knows if they listen or let it crumble) or you move on somewhere else too?
i have posted my issue with the changes on your previous video smilegate as the publisher how are they given the reigns to change the stuff which VA Games as developer should be the one making the decision
I think this might be VA Games and SG both collaborating to make the changes. Though the changes on the dev side are done by VA Games since SG doesn’t handle game development for them
I've been playing every day since day one. I'm f2p, I have almost every character, most of them are 5 star. I missed my first day when I found out "event" tickets actually meant "all fucking free tickets". I'll probably never play again.
as a free to play user this is a sad news It means I can't save millage anymore to buy a unit I want but base on the income list I always saw whenever a honkai star rail content vlogger show I always see outerplane on the lower part of the list and it's always at red meaning it's income keeps on dwindling and I never saw their income come above $600k maybe this is the reason they limit a lot of free stuff to free to play player so some players buy their product and increase their earnings as a free to play player that is sad but If it will make the game survive for long I guess I'll just accept it I mean I not paying anything to play their game I have to rights to complaint. this is just my personal opinion.
I'm lucky as fuck as a free to play player, I have every character and 92k Ether saved with maybe 3 pitties stored up, been playing since soft launch. as I can't blame them for this if my account is even close to the norm, I still don't like it. The only money I've spent is on costumes, and damn they are nice.
Totally agree, a really grimm future has just casted on this game... I would not expend again on this game because I don´t expect it recovering from this punch. Call me a negativist but this game just killed itself by their half year aniversary...
At the moment it stands, you’re right. The changes need to be reversed before its too late
@@cypher4202hopefully, but knowing others they'll still stick with this app regardless whether it's sinking or not
I am f2p played since day 1 but I quit during christina or whatever that flame bruiser was like 4 banners ago or whatever. good thing i stopped playing then cause i cant believe its getting worse
It was always good ngl never a bad update. This is the first time they are downright implementing scummy changes that nobody asked for
i agree but even as f2p there just wasnt enough there to keep me interested. i did enjoy the pvp in terms of gameplay but the dailies were just mindless grind to get pull currency and gear which were more of a dopamine button than any kind of fun gameplay. i actually did read the story and i liked it, but they didnt even make a hard mode story for chap 2 and no voice acting has always been a downer. theres just so many other games on the market that are also free its hard to choose this one any longer@@cypher4202
i started playing right before this update i have my original account which is ok then i have my reroll account which is slowly catching up and i noticed that on banners that you could use tickets the mileage wasnt increasing at all on my first account i got normal drakhan and a few others with mileage no complaints thought the game was good now im working on getting demiurge drakhan with barely any mileage and no increase on any banner for mileage and it sucks when i first started i was thinking the game had a decent pity system but the devs went and fucked it up
it is so crazy, the biggest selling point of this game is how much F2P friendly it is. I started last month because of this and loved the game. But if it changes, they will loose a lot of potential players when it's now that they should focus on getting them instead of milking those they have already.
Well, you can always do a lot of noise. We did it on Epic Seven because of that new awakening system, and they decided to scrap the whole system because of the outrage.
well you can but I don't know if they'll do that on Outer Plane here.
I was unlucky and get almost all my last heroes only from 200/200 mileage - and with this new changes the overall situation will became even worse. But i am ready to drop this game - it was not bad, but not awesome. Shall invest my time in another fun projects... 😏
I feel ya some summoning sessions are just straight up bad and that’s why pity/mileage is a nescessity. I am not going to quit yet but if these changes are not reverted I might be close to that situation
have you tried Azur Lane??
Note that the new CEO of smilegate was the VP of NETMARBLE, so the stingy mfker got greedy, well for epic seven the community was so vocal about it and Chinese and Korean community sent protest trucks so the potentially game ruining change was cancelled , if outerplane community would also be vocal about this then it will be prevented too
Damn that sucks…no wonder even E7 felt the brute force of P2W coming but thankfully their community is much larger so they can protest. Hoping they revert the changes here as well
it's so goofy b/c they had a free pass on community goodwill with this event. a layup of "here's 200 free LIMITED PULLS" into the slam dunk of "guess what... it's also a free LIMITED 3 STAR!"
fumbled, lol.
Ikr they had the perfect setup for attracting more players but they had to fumble with these scummy changes
Man this just sucks! I recently returned to the game to collect my third Demiurge unit and i realize that the tokens we get from the Demiurge mission dont count in the mileage.. At first i thought it was a bug but after i used my ether, the mileage went up! I was highly disappointed when i saw the numbers go up after using my ether.. It hurts to know that they went this route. What they shouldve done is to give us more ways to get the Demiurge tokens for us to keep playing.. Like through Arena or/and weeklies.. They've just made it harder for new and existing player to get the Demiurge unit they want. I came after seeing how cool Demiurge Drakhan looks and now since they've disband the mileage with the tokens its harder to even go to pity and get her! It sucks man. It does not feeling rewarding as it did before.
i started playing two days ago i didn't know about this , kinda sad .
Epic7 almost got there, almost, until the comunity just decided to raid SmileGate and they gave up, quite recently actually
Glad they are least take care ofel epic seven well so far. Sorry to hear about this
Yeah E7 covers up their mistakes quite fast but I believe its due to a larger community and more content creators
Worst day for f2p. It's even effects dolphins i guess. This is killing garantee recruit system for all f2p players. It's sad, rlly sad.
Earlier you could save up ether for demi heroes and recruit some heroes with tickets and still had garant hero with milliage accumulation. You could have some new heroes anyway
Now you can't get much ether for demi and can't accumulate milliage because this tickets don't count. No garant. No new heroes. GG. Death for game
They forget 1 thing. Whales and dolphins gives you money, f2p gives you big and active community with creative fandome which gives you free advertisement
Legit nothing can be done as a F2P now. You would need to get super lucky in your summons to have a chance of staying viable. Mileage is a must in any game and acts as a failsafe for bad luck in gacha games.
@@cypher4202 yep. I think it was fastest drop from best gacha game for newbie and f2p to worst, that i can remember. and they did it all in one anniversary. hillarious 🌚
I spend about 10- 25$ a month because i do believe in supporting a enjoyable game.
If this doesnt change though. I will be quitting.
I spend about $30-$50 with the same intentions and if these changes ain’t reversed, then quitting might be an option I do consider
welp... this is the turning point of where the game starts to die..........
at this point it just a bad epic seven i didn't play this game even a week and i felt like a waist of time
BROWN DUST 1 AKA BRAVE NINE HAVE SIMILAR SYSTEMS WHERE TICKET DOES NOT COUNT TO MILAGE ONLY GEMS DOES , BUT OUTERPLANE DOES IT BUT NOT TRANSPARENT ON IT , have been playing since day one , now may be since the changes, there other games out there who respect it player , there is saying whale 🐋 follow f2p , 💰 f2p gone , 💰 bye
aiming to enhance their pocket size more like
Game keeps crashing......
Hmm didn’t happen to me yet but I am playing on Google Play Games client
I dropped this game months ago. To be honest i really like the game, it is fun to play, generous, addicting mediocre but pleasant graphic, nice va and the story was creative. I dropped it because of game fatigue(no sweep). Sad to see it becomes worse
There is a whole ton of sweep tickets. You don’t need to spend more than 5 mins to complete all daily missions or to farm dungeons
@@cypher4202they should just make it free sweep, farming for sweep tickets defeat the whole purpose of sweep because you need extra step to sweep. If you are not big company like mihoyo that has high player retention rate(especially if your game has outdated graphic), you should not competing to squeeze out others game (because player only 24 hours per day), you should be looking to coexist with others game by making the dailies as fluid as possible.
@@cypher4202the issue is that this is limited meaning after a few days/weeks this banner goes bye-bye, so what are the new players going to do to get this character? Nothing, they're fucked.
The robots and androids….are just stupid to me…..and it takes forever to transcend
and I was going to buy the new battle pass..... guess I'll be spending my money somewhere else where it's deserved.....
The same! This is simply not acceptable
@@cypher4202 Also... well done on highlighting these issues... just subscrided... keep it up..
@brettwessels1283 Np mate this needed to be told or else they would take our silence for granted!
Which company? Lilith on Dislyte.
VA Games and Smilegate for Outerplane
@@cypher4202 no, early on in the video you said something along the line of "What kind of gaming company would do this to their players?!"
@Qwertzalcoatl xD oh yeah Lilith is far worse and this drama looks like SG taking a note out of their books
Game keep crashing its annoying
Ticket reworks are the worst part about the update, like its hard enough to build mileage, and they made it even harder.
Cypher my guy, you give the devs too much benefit of the doubt. Its not cos they did this after the fact that they planned the 200 tickets, nor because they were lazy and this wasnt well thought out.
It was always planned from the start, this half year anniv was always a great time to give these seemily generous rewards to permanetly change this game going forward, which was why they were sneaking it in.
This isnt coming from your avg dev, but the suits in power that make all the decisions. Looks like having those annoying pop ups alone wasnt enough. Taking a little at a time over and over and giving your temporary rewards is how they slowly make it into a very toxic to f2p game.
Yeah I might be naïve here but they hadn’t pulled such a big fuck up ever since CBT. They only improved the game. This was the first and the probably the biggest P2W change, henceforth, I gave them the benefit of doubt. Still hoping that they reverse the changes
Netmarble guy tried killing e7 but e7 community is big and bit his ass, unfortunately outerplane as a newer sg game doesn't have the community to fight back against netmarble guy. Rip outerplane.
I have a feeling that they gonna add paid and unpaid ether feature into the game and make the pity system only for paid ether and at that point... I strongly recommend f2p players to not play the game at all. Even hoyoverse is not this greedy istg. 😂
Overpriced packs. Poor deals within said packs. Overpriced skins. Are some of the things they could have tapped on to fix these issues. Lower the BP to normal BP prices 5-8 bucks. All those could help. For me? I don't care about packs, but I do like skins but I won't buy a 22+ dollar fucking skin in any game ever. 15 is my cap on that. I also wouldn't buy skins that add stats because that's some bullshit.
Yeah skins are a tad bit overpriced ngl but the BP seems decently priced compared to other games. Skins don’t give stats here. These changes need to be reverted ASAP tho
Damm I just got both of the new units and this happened
Sad times mate
Well this sucks... I don't know if it's same new CEO at Epic Seven doing this nonsense, but mahn
Ikr both games recently struck with P2W stuff, even tho e7 at least responded by taking them back and compensating
He's smilegate CEO so he has his hands on outerplane too.
Its like anyone that pitches ideas to him, he just agrees to 🙄
Time to quit this game??
Not yet but if they do not revert the changes, maybe yes. I will keep you updated if they answer on these changes
@@cypher4202 keep up the good work bro 💪
I'm out if these changes stand... I imagine most players will be...
Well, I just uninstalled it. Great move, Devs truly amazing.
I can feel Exos Heroes vibes from the devs.. changes killed the game 😢
Ikr 😞
After the demiurge summon system I alrdy stopped playing. It’s 10x worse than epic seven moonlight summons. Hopefully this game will eventually get better. For now tho, I’m not touching this game with a 10 inch pole. Also, shouldnt they be more focused on adding newer content?? Seems like doing this method makes it 10x worse than it was before
I just started playing and got the new dragon chick and the other android chick in a couple pulls. And a few other 3 stars in a few pulls.
Im not sure if people are memeing about smilegate being f2p friendly.. when epic7 community is still refreshing the shop up to this day just to get bookmarks and sht. .. they will make your work your ass off just To get 5 bookmarks. .. gwars and rta is full of ml5 .with the same def and offense.. you think outerplane is gonna be different? .. nope. They will prolly introduce another tedious way of getting them to promote spending. This is korean culture. Lost ark.. i dont even wanna discuss this. Rip outerplane community.
I was thinking about playing this game thinks for the heads up 😂
Np but these current changes are super sad cuz the game was actually one of the best F2p gacha games out there
The skin are overpriced the packs are overpriced and now this.. Dropped...
Tbf they are much better value than E7 or SW or RAID. The current changes are the only negative impact for the game. Hoping they reverse them before its too late
Well i just started the game a few weeks ago. 😅😅😅
Gl mate, a lot of content for you but these changes are going to suck. Hoping for a quick reversal of these changes for the sake of everybody
one of the many reasons why I'll always stick with Azur Lane until it shuts down but that is a very very very long time.
This is a cash grab move. Most likely the game will die off and this is a way to make some profit in the short term before eos.
This is weird since it was never in EoS territory. It still made a healthy 400-500k monthly. No clue why they felt the need to be scummy all of a sudden
Bruh, I gave up and stopped playing a while ago. I've been playing Honkai Star Rail making progress everyday with that.
Gl mate! HSR not my type so I don’t play it
I have it downloaded though I think I wont try it... xD
Game wasnt doing well so they decided to shut it down after 8 months.
The game animation gives me dizziness. I feel sick and throw up, does anyone know why?
Well damn came bc e7 slow guest I will just go play mtga.
I play since day one. This is the kind of game i love and i can play for years. I'm cashplayer. Top 20-30 in pvp arena. But this new update with lot of downgrades and empty "half celebration (lol)" (seriously celebration!!???) is only shame and sh*t. I stopped. Uninstall.
Mad respect for you mate and I agree that these changes are simply horrible. Honestly not disappointed with the half anni outside of these horrible changes
idk what it is but to me the game felt so forgettable? like nothing was fun or unique the characters are generic as fuck and so is the plot. its downgraded version of e7 but with 3d animations. played it for a day and uninstalled.
Yup,,,
done uninstall the game...
good 1.5 month of playing time...
It’s so disappointing
They ruined the game everyone is leaving it’s a scam
Just Quit.
Not yet but definitely close if the changes aren’t reversed or at least mitigated
Yall to negative, its a free game. They need money somehow to give us quality content. Otherwise this game would probably be trash. It really is one of the best free to play mobile gatcha games. The story is great and engaging and the cast of charecters is awesome. The only thing this game is really missing is just more content in general. More things to do is what i want. After you beat everything you just have pvp to do. I have all the charecters except two, and thats by choice. I haven't spent any money. Just play the game, you will get their eventually. Patience.
As I said this is the best F2P game but suddenly taking away all the good stuff in 1 day without consulting the community at large is not a good sign. Patience is find but silence over getting screwed is not. I love the game and want them to make money at the same time but not like this
Ever heard of Exos Heroes and Dislyte? These games did that and now where are they?
@@misterbraindeadcow9512 bro, Exos Heroes was so awesome! Your right though
@@cypher4202 I do agree, I hate the new ticket system and going towards pity. It does make me upset because I had a rythim going.
Dude they can't have a F2P experience so friendly that they're literally not churning a profit. So if you want to keep the servers going then clearly cosmetics aren't enough. Also there are less than 50 characters so your RNG chances with 3 stars is still strong. I get that it sucks. But trust me play other gatcha games like RAID SHADOW LEGENDS and you'll be thankful for a game like this. The people leaving this game play a different gatcha every 2 months so whatever
What a shir post 😂
@@reylightrey1863 oh no someone had a different opinion... how will you ever survive you poor baby
I agree that getting heroes is super easy in OP but I think they needed to consult the playerbase first before making such drastic and bad changes. They could’ve simply followed the E7 model
@@cypher4202 character acquisition I think is fine, ya they could of announced the change or just done it the same has E7, but they didn't and that kinda sucks. However it's not the end of the world. My honest complaints are more for getting T10 materials and gems. But hey F2P I got sigma in what maybe 2 months and with only using lvl1 gens at best. So all in all I'd say pretty decent experience.
thats what u get for not putting males in the game lmao i hope this game freaking ends
This game sucks ,bad graphics, and unlike Epic seven you have to buy the skin with real money and they are not even that great
SG last ditch effort to milk their budget 7. If this kinda shyt happened to e7, their community will literally kill them. They know they can get away with their other game.
Ikr trucks would be marching down their HQ xD
Oh that is unfortunate to hear. Thought this game was pretty good. But had to drop it because I was playing too many things at once. I'd heard some concerning things here and there about it. And seeing this is disappointing.
The game used to be the best F2P recommendation from my side for people who love turn based games. With the current changes, I won’t recommend it to anyone. Hoping for a quick reversal