Right now I feel like the only difference of this Nigma team is drafting wise. Their players and comms is improving but they are being outdrafted when it matters the most. Dont lose hope nigma fans. They can still do this
32:33 Miracle is past his prime and shouldn't have attempted that jump to the high ground, as it was unnecessary and unexpected from a player of his caliber. He literally threw the game right there. It was another disappointing night for Nigma. I feel for Sumail; he's an incredible midlaner, possibly unmatched in skill and lane dominance. He has also improved his late game, which is a positive development.
i mean the haters are gona hate theres nothing new there. The people that really support nigma are understandably frustrated, coz it feels the team is like right there, its borderline a top team, but struggeling to close out games but they have definitely been improving, this match shoulda been theirs to win, they played decently well And they are a better team than both OG and zero tenacity, they should go through without much trouble
Honestly I think it would be a gross overestimation and exaggeration to say nigma can really fight the actual top tier teams like falcons spirit tundra liquid and beat them consistently. Once they get figured out, they become like heroic against those teams
@@kingseiryu929 the only top tier team I've seen them go against and square off convincingly is liquid. they 1-1 them in ESL bangkok. i love them but they're a very weird team for sure. one tournament they're playing like a top 10-5 team then next tournament they're playing like a tier 2 team. i think that's what op meant. they just need consistency and how to close out games. also: from what I've notice here, they dominated game 1 because they had a somehwat favorable draft, but they struggled games 2 and 3 because of the draft. I think drafting plays an important role here.
@@mew2o635 Actually I felt they needed an improvement after lane. Its like they always come out of laning stage winning it or edging out closely but middle game control is always bad compared to otehr top teams. Theya re improving tho which is a good sign considering the age of the players...
Relax guys! Nigma is about to figure their strength before TI. Let them lose all the tournaments and qualifiers, they will improve. Once they’ll improve, that’s an assurance, they will qualify for the TI 2025 and will win it all. It’s Nigma’s year baby! 🎉 I’m a Nigma fan and I was frustrated also but I can see the improvement of their gameplay as a team. They should not replace Noob. They will get their ride soon. 👌
It's crazy how they totally dominate first game no competition, and next two games they are fighting for their lives... They are really good but they lack something, maybe it's draft maybe it's synergy, or maybe it's stamina... Not sure
Its draft. Tiny pick for 2 games is bad. Tiny scales bad in the late game too. Drow was a bad pick. Ta was ok but I think miracle was tired tbh. The games went on so long i fell asleep and woke up in the night and they were still playing. Miracle is already at a bad health
@kiraskchvlz4552 yeah that makes sense, it's sad to see CZ they still got potential imo, some games they overperform some games they underperform, it feels like they are past their time, but like noob and Omar are basically in their prime at the same time so idk...
Classic kuro's draft, he just idiot. He thought he could take a draft straight to finals and opponents never know how to counter it. Remember it, he picked tide and ta lineup all time and get destroyed by og
@@meatorfeed9051if your supposedly best carry and mid in the world consistently loses due to draft. I think they are just average pros and not goats. How to be goats if you need everything in your favour to win
can someone explain i don't know why they keep picking lycan i mean lycan can't initiate if the team was failing and he needs alot of farm like old beast master. Alpha wolf is good but just way too passive as a offlaner.
Avulus draft so good while Nigma still on their bad drafting style, Kuro please stop drafting… I remember Matu made things great for them because of Matu’s hero pool and play style, ever since they went downhill..
Two freakin match Lycan, why not ban it. And this PA cost Nigma a game. Simple ban, PA ban is a must, I'm like wtf. It's 2025, Nigma... don't disappoint us again.
Told you..same team same stories.. Avulus vs nigma upper bracket avulus go to main stage..nigma drop to final lower bracket and lose again lol..this team is cursed
yep, they can win 2-0 and dominate against some teams in upper bracket, yet somehow when they meet again in lower bracket, they're just straight up losing against that exact same team they dominated in upper bracket
it was a good burst for pugna and set up, I think the wrong decision is giving Xibbe his lycan. He just too good on it and scales so well rather than tiny.
i can't defend nigma anymore, miracle is too cocky throwing games left and right all the time. Every single time nigma loses because of his arrogance. He is just washed up now. Wtf are these stupid drafts, carries like Drow just don't work anymore.
Omgggg just 1 timee winn a final vs this teammmmmmm wtfff i don’t knoww why they playing like idiott kess ekhtoun bi ayre. Remove this mtf Noob from the teamm he can’t do somethingg
34:38 And fanboys thinks Miracle is better than ana Current ana would've already changed his PT to Strength and already bought Raindrops in the shop while he TPs and switched it Deso as soon as he teleported to base How much more if ana was in his TI8 form 32:33 Perfect clip that shows Miracle is washed up Jumps right in front of everyone "GOAT in DotA" my ass
@shina8767 It's clear that opting for that tiny offlane pick was a truly retarted decision. Let's not underestimate the impact of kuroky he is always the MVP even from the bench 😅
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Right now I feel like the only difference of this Nigma team is drafting wise. Their players and comms is improving but they are being outdrafted when it matters the most. Dont lose hope nigma fans. They can still do this
Don't listen to the haters, Miracle, you're a good player and you will qualify today!
32:33 Miracle is past his prime and shouldn't have attempted that jump to the high ground, as it was unnecessary and unexpected from a player of his caliber. He literally threw the game right there. It was another disappointing night for Nigma. I feel for Sumail; he's an incredible midlaner, possibly unmatched in skill and lane dominance. He has also improved his late game, which is a positive development.
lmao game 1 they win because of Miracle.
miracle is washed out, but Noob, oh my god, when was the last time you saw him make any good play. He is such an absolute dead weight
@@shina8767 and lost everything else
No power thread switch as well he definitely would have lived in the fountain
@@usmantahir4045LMAO. Dude thinks thread switch heals you😂 it increases your max health but it doesn't affect your current health smart man LOL
34:38 Miracle can:
Buy raindrop
Buy any stat items(switch to deso or blink)
Switch tread to strength
Sadly he did none of them
buy a freaking faerie fire even
he thinks slow and confident he thinks he will Survive. XD but DEAD.
raindrop didn't work on magnetize, but faerie fire should help
not sure if dropping/stashing the neutral item help?
WP NIGMA! that game 1 was amazing 🔥 we'll get them next time!
Bad editing, too much changes without much transition. Too abrupt
i mean the haters are gona hate theres nothing new there.
The people that really support nigma are understandably frustrated, coz it feels the team is like right there, its borderline a top team, but struggeling to close out games
but they have definitely been improving, this match shoulda been theirs to win, they played decently well
And they are a better team than both OG and zero tenacity, they should go through without much trouble
Honestly I think it would be a gross overestimation and exaggeration to say nigma can really fight the actual top tier teams like falcons spirit tundra liquid and beat them consistently.
Once they get figured out, they become like heroic against those teams
@@kingseiryu929 the only top tier team I've seen them go against and square off convincingly is liquid. they 1-1 them in ESL bangkok. i love them but they're a very weird team for sure. one tournament they're playing like a top 10-5 team then next tournament they're playing like a tier 2 team. i think that's what op meant. they just need consistency and how to close out games.
also: from what I've notice here, they dominated game 1 because they had a somehwat favorable draft, but they struggled games 2 and 3 because of the draft. I think drafting plays an important role here.
@@mew2o635 Actually I felt they needed an improvement after lane. Its like they always come out of laning stage winning it or edging out closely but middle game control is always bad compared to otehr top teams. Theya re improving tho which is a good sign considering the age of the players...
Relax guys! Nigma is about to figure their strength before TI. Let them lose all the tournaments and qualifiers, they will improve. Once they’ll improve, that’s an assurance, they will qualify for the TI 2025 and will win it all. It’s Nigma’s year baby! 🎉
I’m a Nigma fan and I was frustrated also but I can see the improvement of their gameplay as a team. They should not replace Noob. They will get their ride soon. 👌
It's crazy how they totally dominate first game no competition, and next two games they are fighting for their lives... They are really good but they lack something, maybe it's draft maybe it's synergy, or maybe it's stamina... Not sure
Its draft. Tiny pick for 2 games is bad. Tiny scales bad in the late game too. Drow was a bad pick. Ta was ok but I think miracle was tired tbh. The games went on so long i fell asleep and woke up in the night and they were still playing. Miracle is already at a bad health
@kiraskchvlz4552 yeah that makes sense, it's sad to see CZ they still got potential imo, some games they overperform some games they underperform, it feels like they are past their time, but like noob and Omar are basically in their prime at the same time so idk...
StormStormer... position 2 or 3?
nigma on god stop picking heroes for 3 game straight, how u pick tiny on all of your game, like the other day u picked elder titan for 3 game
Clown why spoiled?
Clown . Why u spoiled game 🤡
Classic kuro's draft, he just idiot. He thought he could take a draft straight to finals and opponents never know how to counter it. Remember it, he picked tide and ta lineup all time and get destroyed by og
@@meatorfeed9051if your supposedly best carry and mid in the world consistently loses due to draft. I think they are just average pros and not goats.
How to be goats if you need everything in your favour to win
Bro they picked It 2:times not 3 are you blind
Nigma the tier 2 team slayer. Disappointing his fans every way possible. Thank you Kuroky, Keep up the beautiful drafts. You chad bald man.
That pause was wild
34:39 even me a legend would at least switch to str boots
feeling underwhelmed by StormStormer...
what I dont understand Miracle build on DR, why rush agh? he could have build other item like pike then SB and then Agh, rush agh was a terrible move.
can someone explain i don't know why they keep picking lycan i mean lycan can't initiate if the team was failing and he needs alot of farm like old beast master. Alpha wolf is good but just way too passive as a offlaner.
Avulus draft so good while Nigma still on their bad drafting style, Kuro please stop drafting…
I remember Matu made things great for them because of Matu’s hero pool and play style, ever since they went downhill..
You have willow to pick, but no. Lion. Congratz, Kuro.
Wait so Dreamleague has no MESWA region? No free pass for poor old Nigma boohoo 😢😢😢
have no idea that sonneiko is so good at enigma.
Two freakin match Lycan, why not ban it. And this PA cost Nigma a game. Simple ban, PA ban is a must, I'm like wtf.
It's 2025, Nigma... don't disappoint us again.
Nigma need coach like CEBBBBBBB
Told you..same team same stories..
Avulus vs nigma upper bracket avulus go to main stage..nigma drop to final lower bracket and lose again lol..this team is cursed
yep, they can win 2-0 and dominate against some teams in upper bracket, yet somehow when they meet again in lower bracket, they're just straight up losing against that exact same team they dominated in upper bracket
They pick offlane tiny again. He saw pugna already could interrupt him why not just put it on mid so have good levels
PLEASE JUST PICK HEROES WITHOUT KURO, HIS SENSE IS ABSOLUTELY DEAD
Why tiny offlane ? 🙂↔️
it was a good burst for pugna and set up, I think the wrong decision is giving Xibbe his lycan. He just too good on it and scales so well rather than tiny.
Kuro destroyed miracle and sumail career
So close Nigma ❤
thats what happen when you kick mc and kuroky for sumail....
They recently had a game vs mc , ask him how it went 😂
@@n3ar834 do you have mc contact number? i want to ask him
DuBu Weng the Chinese
I feel bad for king. Time to quit this bs team
Nigma = CHOKE
i can't defend nigma anymore, miracle is too cocky throwing games left and right all the time. Every single time nigma loses because of his arrogance. He is just washed up now.
Wtf are these stupid drafts, carries like Drow just don't work anymore.
nigma no need kuroky
Remeber guys, Kuroky draft 😅
this performance was way better than kuro draft so yeah kuro is still the problem
Kuro always wants miracle to play drow cus it's his favorite hero lol
Omgggg just 1 timee winn a final vs this teammmmmmm wtfff i don’t knoww why they playing like idiott kess ekhtoun bi ayre. Remove this mtf Noob from the teamm he can’t do somethingg
Just draft lose the game...tiny offlane ,man wtf lowest netrok in the game 3
Is it so hard to pick gay meta heroes nigma?
Classic nigma lose in final😂
Miracle are dying too much! He needs to play safe on teamfights because he always die. A game with Sniper Sumail with Miracle's alch is a good matchup
34:38
And fanboys thinks Miracle is better than ana
Current ana would've already changed his PT to Strength and already bought Raindrops in the shop while he TPs and switched it Deso as soon as he teleported to base
How much more if ana was in his TI8 form
32:33
Perfect clip that shows Miracle is washed up
Jumps right in front of everyone
"GOAT in DotA" my ass
nogma keep picking non traditional offlane
Lol...agn 😂
Trash commentator! Better pick the official commentator rather than this trash!
Tiny pos3 no impact wrong pick
Ez game 😂
nigma is trash tbh
Nigma really good but their draft really bad
@shina8767 It's clear that opting for that tiny offlane pick was a truly retarted decision. Let's not underestimate the impact of kuroky he is always the MVP even from the bench 😅