Dully’s case was even sadder. His stepmother took him to several doctors before landing in Freeman’s office. All of the previous doctors said “He’s just a normal boy” and even blamed the stepmother for his supposed bad behavior. Freeman (who was always looking for an excuse to tinker with someone’s brain) just listened to the stepmother and said “Yep, he needs a lobotomy.” After the surgery, Dully’s stepmother insisted that he be incarcerated. And he became a ward of the state. All because his stepmother didn’t want him.
Dully was on a TV show that I saw years ago, where he actually got an MRI to see exactly how bad the damage from his lobotomy was. I think it was on TLC or Discovery Health. (I think this was back when TLC actually had educational shows.) They said he was the first known lobotomized person ever to get an MRI. I found that pretty shocking. You'd think that tons of lobotomized people would've had MRI scans over the years, if not for research purposes, then at least for the same ordinary medical reasons that other people need to get them at times. I think the doctor who did his scan said that he probably relearned the functions he lost because he worked so hard at it. I think the doctor may have also said that the damage wasn't as bad as he thought it was going to be, because it wasn't as big of an area that was cut, as he thought it was going to be. But the cut area was clearly visible on the scan and the doctor was surprised that Dully was able to function as well as he was. I think they said that he had been in prison for years, but he got his act together and was living a normal life at that point.
I read an article where it talked about how disconnecting the two halves of the brain as done in a lobotomy effectively makes each half its own individual consciousness, but where only one has control of the body and can express itself and communicate, meaning the other is trapped in a complete void. There's still so much we don't understand about the brain and the nature of consciousness.
Thank you for this. I had a friend who was pressured into undergoing multiple electroshock therapy treatments, and it changed her life in a sad and terrible way.
That is called an orbital or ocular lobotomy, you also get cranial lobotomies that go through the skull. The only "lobotomies" performed today are "micro sectional" surgeries for severe epilepsy, the aim is not to cut off an entire lobe but only neuron bundles that have been detected cause or support extreme seizures, these are usually reserved for the most extreme of cases where medication and other less invasive therapies have failed, a last resort. Happy to say that these usually have very little side effects but only resemble a "lobotomy" in idea, cure a "pathology" through surgical manipulation of the brain.
They honestly thought lobotomies actually helped. It’s true there’s probably a lot of holes in our mental illness knowledge that can use more research. But we’re a long way from the days of lobotomies and have made progress. It’s easy to look back and say lobotomies are cruel and they are. But at the time they were thought they helped
I saw Howard Dully on a TV show a long time ago. I think it was on TLC, back when they used to actually be The Learning Channel. He got an MRI on the show and they said that he'd been the only person who'd had a lobotomy, ever known to have an MRI. That was shocking to me because I would think researchers as well as doctors who just needed to so for medical reasons, would've done MRI scans on lots of lobotomized people, by now. I mean the technology has been around since the early 80's, for God's sake! The doctor who did Howard's MRI said that he probably relearned how to feel empathy and emotions and recover whatever other missing functions he did, because he worked so hard at it. I'm not sure, but I think the doctor also might have said that Howard's damage wasn't as bad as he thought it was going to be, because only a small area had been cut. Of course, there's wild variability in how lobotomized people do because there was no standardization as far as how much of the brain was cut, or exactly where it was cut. I mean they did it by jamming an ice pick up someone's nose, as fast as possible, without even being able to see what they're doing!
These are the same medical institutions that advocated smoking for good health and are still telling us what's healthy today. If that's not absolutely terrifying then I don't know what is.
It's very true. It's the same people still treating us. But we have a lot more safeguards in place. We're in the safest period of medicine any human has ever experienced. ❤
That's just sick, among those patients was Rosemary Kennedy. She was born during the 1918 flu pandemic with a congenital disability, during her young adult years she experienced seizures and episodes of violent behavior. In 1941, her father arranged a prefrontal lobotomy at the age of 23 that would "help" with her behavior. Unfortunately, she was left with the state of a 2-year-old or left incapacitated and unable to speak.
The logic: - by inflicting brain damage on purpose, by blindly waggling an ice pick through the brain the patient is so damaged it relieves the symptoms alongside turning them into a vegetable. Ergo - killing the patient also relieves the patients symptoms because they are not alive ... I have a colleague who was given a lobotomy in 1986!She let me feel the two holes in her head. She had it for severe OCD and says it had no effect whatsoever on her condition plus it took about five years to recover her speech, memory, movement and ability to read and write and do a job. Credit to her for working to get back to a normal life which she did without psychiatrists! Have we learn't? Absolutely not - society has taken to vigorously slicing off healthy body parts, and mutilating bodies particularly in children to try and resolve issues that are experienced in the mind. In 40 years people will be watching a similar video about this - saying, how did this happen?
EVERY surgery requires slicing off and mutilating healthy parts of the body. It's impossible not to. Every medical option will all have some kind of negative affect on a healthy body. The point is whether the good outweighs the bad in these scenarios. You have it backwards. We HAVE learned, because we no longer perform the surgeries that were recognized as unreasonably harmful, while now implementing the best practices we know of currently with the biggest benefit and fewest drawbacks. Some of or current medical practices may end up being found to have more negative consequences than we initially realized, and then we'll later discover later methods that are far more effective. That's not barbaric or unethical, that's progress. Would you refuse chemo if you had cancer, just because it has negative side effects and a better solution might emerge in the next few decades? Would you refuse antibiotics for a deadly bacterial infection, just because that drugs you take could encourage the growth of a more deadly and more harmful outbreak that we have no solution to? Hindsight is 20/20, and saying "this past thing we did is bad" without understanding why it was done is just a combination of ignorance and egotism, as you just assume people decades or centuries ago should have been doing certain things. But it's only BECAUSE they were done and through numerous research and examination that we can now determine how beneficial or harmful they are.
@@55tranquility I explained in detail why your claim that we haven't learned is false. Did you actually read it? About how medical care and procedures have always been improving? You literally said " In 40 years people will be watching a similar video about this - saying, how did this happen?". Doesn't that mean we'll have improved our views of medical treatments by then? How could they look back and say "we did it wrong", if they didn't see the flaws we made along the way and improved on what we currently are doing?
@ The context of the video is psychiatry and the use of quack invasive techniques on the body to 'fix' something in the mind, this is the context of my comment. As a mental health nurse for over thirty years I can assure you that people with serious mental illness today are more likely to be homeless or die prematurely than at any point in the last 150 years, with lifespans that are 10 to 20 years less than the general population. Services, hospitals, safe spaces, wards and clinicians have been cut so much they are unrecognisable to even when I began training. For decades the pharmaceutical industry has churned out dozens of antidepressants and antipsychotics, but there is no evidence that they are more effective than the drugs that emerged between 1950 and 1990. In fact every single antidepressant available is based on the first antipsychotic that came to market in the 1950s they are all variations of this drug not new medicines. Biological research has also failed to reveal why psychiatric drugs help some patients but not others. When a patient asks me how an antidepressant works, I have to shrug my shoulders. “We just don’t know, but we do have evidence that there’s a third of all people who take them find them very helpful” One patient responded, “Doesn’t it have to do with neurotransmitters or something?” I sighed, “Yes, that was the theory for a while, but it didn’t pan out.” And how about stigma? As anthropologist Helena Hansen has argued, the neuroscience of addiction has often reinforced stigma by reducing substance use to an individual problem, instead of the result of structural factors rooted in longer histories of racial violence. American psychiatrists also diagnose Black and Brown patients with disproportionate rates of schizophrenia compared to white patients-a disparity that psychiatrist-sociologist Jonathan Metzl traces to psychiatrists in the 1970s who pathologized Black activism as “psychosis.” Finally, Black patients experiencing mental health crises, including children, are more likely to experience the violence of being physically restrained, tied to their beds in ways that resemble the experiences of asylum patients over a century ago. In 2015 the former director of the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), Thomas Insel, crystallized this disillusionment: "I spent 13 years at [NIMH] pushing on the neuroscience and genetics of mental disorders, and when I look back . . . I realize that while . . . I succeeded at getting lots of really cool papers published by cool scientists at fairly large costs-I think $20 billion-I don’t think we moved the needle in reducing suicide, reducing hospitalizations, improving recovery for the tens of millions of people who have mental illness." It does not help that academic psychiatry today feels out of touch. Many people have underscored the profound importance of mental health amid the social isolation of the pandemic, racial violence in our society, and the increasingly hyper-competitive culture of schools, sports, and the market. But academic psychiatry’s almost singular focus on brain-based research has meant that the profession has been largely absent from these conversations. And for what? All the “cool papers” on neurobiology have won academic grants and helped professors get promoted, but they have not meaningfully impacted the diagnosis and care of the millions of people suffering psychic distress. But this is not hopeless, I have seen huge strides in the effectiveness of cognitive therapies, particularly third wave CBT alongside a recognition of the importance of mindfulness and mindfulness based CBT. I have also soon a move towards recovery and recovery focussed treatment, including peer support and a focus on social connection, learning, supporting your own community and feeling valid, exercise - these things can bring a profound change to peoples lives and are a huge opportunity. Sticking things in someone's brain not so much.
It's sad that these people had to go through what they did. Basically a lifetime of memories gone in an instant. Their personalities, changed. Back in the day, Dr.'s did hail lobotomies and the end all of end alls. The medical procedure was at the forefront of medicine for the mentally ill. To bad is was misused and a lot of innocent people had their memories and basically who they were as a person taken away. Electroshock therapy was and still is used on patients who have ongoing severe depression. The Electroshock induces a seizure. When the patient, they are typically more happy. The seizure releases specific hormones that help with the recovering of depression. Some patients have had multiple electroshock treatments. The patient is put to sleep with anesthesia before the procedure.
You are correct. Also, the seizure should last at least 25 seconds to be effective. Usually, the patient would have a series of 6-8 sessions over a couple of weeks. I've seen ECT work wonders in severe cases of manic-depression, and schizoaffective disorder while working as a psychiatric RN who assisted with ECT therapy.
2:31 Speaking of the family name Freeman, my family lived in The Freeman House when I was at Burwell Public School (Grades 1-12). I also had a classmate with the family name Freeman for 12 straight years!
@@MaxDeckard He has a super sense of justice that motivated him to go through a kill zone that looked like guaranteed suicide. Even the best officers would not have the motivation or skill to survive that.
2:31 Another reference to Freeman...Freddie Freeman won the World Series MVP and was crucial for the Dodgers winning the World Series! The Dodgers were established in 1883, the same year my hometown of Burwell, Nebraska was platted. My family lived in The Freeman House when I was in public school, my great aunt Dorothy Freeman sold it to us for $6,000!
It’s horrific that these evil “doctors” were allowed to get away with all of this. It’s even more horrific that they’re still getting away with abusing patients today, especially confused children. They need to be put away…or worse.
Well at least for this time, they have the luxury thinking that lobotomies are actually helpful and work. You can say that with a lot of treatments too at the time. Hell it was once considered a medical fact that to save someone from drowning, you just need to blow smoke up their ass. This is where we get the term smoke up your ass as in someone said something you think is trying to trick you is the truth because the claim is so ridiculous But we’ve came a long way since then. While you can say that ok medical knowledge was basically non existent compared to now. Some practices were believed to be helpful like blood letting. So you can look at that and say well yeah that’s not right. But at least the intent was to help. We don’t have the excuse now for the most part that “oh I didn’t know lobotomies are a load of crap”
Growing up there was an older lady in the granny flat attached to our house, that her parents rented for her. She'd had a lobotomy some time in the early 60s. She was okay, quiet and a bit slow even to my 7yo eyes. She got her meals delivered by meals on wheels. As a kid I thought that was odd, because at 7 I could cook. I didn't understand what had been done to that poor woman.
I am all for getting on meds! Helped me loads. If that isn’t an option for you though, try ashwaganda supplements. They assist with anxiety and focus. Might take a few weeks to feel the full effects for some, but I tend to feel relief instantly depending on my dose. It’s 100% natural and safe and I can’t recommend it enough. Wishing you the best, friend.
This comes as no surprise to me. Given the human penchant towards the ridiculous end of a spectrum, it should come as no surprise to others that the criminal justice system still relies on polygraphy to determine the guilt of an accused person.
People would pay a large sum of money to experience 1 day in 15 minutes. Inception? This is only beneficial if your body is aging 15 minutes, but your mind is gaining or remembering that 1 days worth of memory. In his case, your body aged 1 day, but the memories of it only last 15 minutes. Sounds horrible.
Rosemary Kennedy suffered brain damage because her mother was told to keep her legs closed while she was in labour until a doctor could come. She was taken away and her siblings had to find her
10:27 In reference again to James Watts...I have the Wheaties box cover for the one with Justin James Watt (J.J. Watt) and his brother T.J. Watt. I cut it off and put it in the Wheaties box for Simone Biles, the box that is holding the box covers. The next one to go into that box is Billie Jean King!
Imagine parents sending their child to a mental institution simply because they argued with them. Bible thumpers used to do that all the time. You know...back when America was, um, "great".
10:27 Speaking of the name James Watts...Justin James Watt (J.J. Watt) and I wore the same football number: 99. We also have the same middle name (James). He was NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2015, the year I graduated from nursing school.
Didn't Walter Freeman have a loboto-mobile that he'd drive around to crank out lobotomies even faster? It was like the Oscar Meyer Weiner Mobile.. but for lobotomies.
Trump Devotee Simpering? Yeah, some pointless comments saying Harris was lobotomized, because they're unable to make meaningful criticism of her proposed policies. None of which would be relevant to this video about a history of medicine, in any case.
I wish i could have a lobotomy sometimes I hate having feelings an thoughts most days Depression anxiety ptsd borderline personality disorder adhd 😅 a frickin mess over here
You guys are using my image as well as my fathers as a thumbnail for your lobotomy video on RUclips. You do not have my permission to use my work, or images of myself or my dad to promote your content. Not to mention the absolute disgust and insensitivity you have by captioning the image with “no brainer” after a terrible event that forever impacted my family. Please remove this image as your thumbnail to your video immediately.
I am going to watch the videos: x Walter Jackson Freeman II: The Champion of the Lobotomy x Bizarre Medical Practices From History x What It Was Like Going To A Doctor In Wild West x How a 19th Century Doctor's Tried to Get His Peers To Wash Their Hands x What Was Hospital Hygiene Like On Ellis Island
Eating ANOTHER Weird History candy! Eating Halloween Candy*†...while watching this Weird History video! I scored it when I went to Trick r' Treat! * Inspired from the Weird History video "Stories About Your Favorite Halloween Candy" † It's Fun Size of Oreo Boo!, Welch's Fruit Snacks (Mixed Fruit), Twix, Butterfinger, M & Ms, Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, Milky Way, Hershey's, Kit Kat, and Skittles.
*Sees title* There is a modern method of lobotomization today. It's called modern memes, using technology instead of doing actual parenting and seeing Zoomers and Gen Alphas bastardize the English language.
Hi! Linguist here 😄 The English you use today is already bastardized. Even the sentence you wrote was bastardized, through and through! Seems like you're an angry fella! I recommend meditation, or perhaps yoga if you don't like sitting still while meditating. Hope that helps! ❤
@@nomoretwitterhandlesHi, normal person here. It's obvious that OP was talking about the EXTREME lack of correct grammar that the younger generations use. Did you really not catch that? 😂
You mean K.H.' word salads. Her interviews need to be heavily edited, like the 60 Minutes Israel answer, which was completely switched, and even then she isn't the brightest bulb... She is a totalitarian, a l. Eye er, who's administration abuses it's power to oppress her opposition, Tulsi Gabbard and others. Exposed by all law enforcement she ever worked and posed with in photo ops. D.T., the only peace President in decades, negotiating peace treaties all over the world, talks 3 hours to Rogan and makes total sense. It's just the fake reality you see in the billionaire corporate F news.
Shut up you democrat, if anything just watch Joe Biden speak oh wait he can’t really talk because all he does his stutter that’s the real after effects
Yea, Trump actually has done really good things for this country like I don’t know Keeping us out of wars, we probably have gotten close to going to war with Biden in office.
P.S. Thanks to her policy 10.000s confirmed (border patrol) rpsts and mrds roam FREE in the US, doing their "deeds". 325.000 migr children went missing under her watch. She is a DEI (J.B.s own characterization) hire & f8lure all the way, like she was as a DA and AG back then. Whereas D.T. fought like a lion against chld, drg and sx trffkn ! She is just an image created by the billionaire media, no substance to it. Thanks to her administration we are a sneeze away from nucl. esc.
We can ask the North Carolina blk conservative who said he's not blk and all blk ppl should give reparations to all whites. Funny enough Trump said he's tho modern MLK 😂 YT blocking my comments but why haven't any blk conservatives gave any aid to the poor whites in Mississippi or Alabama
@taylorlibby7642 like the gay blk conservative who attended Jan 6 and also called himself white and was booted by white conservatives who don't like gays
Meanwhile Democrats storm out of interviews and avoid debates because you can't defend or articulate your heinous positions...🙄 bunch of liberal zombies
I didn't know she had a successful lobotomy! Did she suffer from epilepsy beforehand? It's really amazing what modern medicine can do 😄 She speaks so wonderfully, you never would've guessed!
@@nomoretwitterhandles Again, you're having a joke right. Oh I get it, you're a bot. That is the only way you could remotely think KH speaks wonderfully.
@@blooper_01 Trump is a politician now. He was president for a term. And after his term he stayed in the politics game. And in case you didn't notice. He lied. A lot
If you're already gone, definitely! I've heard her speak and she seems to be quite eloquent. Her speeches are very interesting! She's not worth listening to if you're not a listener, so I recommend googling up simplified versions of her policies if you want to remain educated on her platform. Even if you don't like her, it doesn't hurt to stay educated!
Dully’s case was even sadder.
His stepmother took him to several doctors before landing in Freeman’s office. All of the previous doctors said “He’s just a normal boy” and even blamed the stepmother for his supposed bad behavior.
Freeman (who was always looking for an excuse to tinker with someone’s brain) just listened to the stepmother and said “Yep, he needs a lobotomy.”
After the surgery, Dully’s stepmother insisted that he be incarcerated. And he became a ward of the state.
All because his stepmother didn’t want him.
So heartbreaking 😢
Dully was on a TV show that I saw years ago, where he actually got an MRI to see exactly how bad the damage from his lobotomy was. I think it was on TLC or Discovery Health. (I think this was back when TLC actually had educational shows.) They said he was the first known lobotomized person ever to get an MRI. I found that pretty shocking. You'd think that tons of lobotomized people would've had MRI scans over the years, if not for research purposes, then at least for the same ordinary medical reasons that other people need to get them at times. I think the doctor who did his scan said that he probably relearned the functions he lost because he worked so hard at it. I think the doctor may have also said that the damage wasn't as bad as he thought it was going to be, because it wasn't as big of an area that was cut, as he thought it was going to be. But the cut area was clearly visible on the scan and the doctor was surprised that Dully was able to function as well as he was. I think they said that he had been in prison for years, but he got his act together and was living a normal life at that point.
Girlfriend is murdered by a serial killer then a week later your mom dies in a crash with your dad driving the other vehicle. Wow poor fella
I read an article where it talked about how disconnecting the two halves of the brain as done in a lobotomy effectively makes each half its own individual consciousness, but where only one has control of the body and can express itself and communicate, meaning the other is trapped in a complete void. There's still so much we don't understand about the brain and the nature of consciousness.
The Kennedy lobotomy is probably the most well known. Tragic story.
That was actually a leukotomy, right?
The last one about Rose Kennedy! Ruined her whole life. What a horrible thing to do to her.
Exactly!
Thank you for this. I had a friend who was pressured into undergoing multiple electroshock therapy treatments, and it changed her life in a sad and terrible way.
I always thought that for a lobotomy they went in through the eye sockets and that it didn't leave any scars.
That is called an orbital or ocular lobotomy, you also get cranial lobotomies that go through the skull. The only "lobotomies" performed today are "micro sectional" surgeries for severe epilepsy, the aim is not to cut off an entire lobe but only neuron bundles that have been detected cause or support extreme seizures, these are usually reserved for the most extreme of cases where medication and other less invasive therapies have failed, a last resort. Happy to say that these usually have very little side effects but only resemble a "lobotomy" in idea, cure a "pathology" through surgical manipulation of the brain.
We’re still so far from understanding mental illness. It’s a fairly new science, but cruelty was never the answer!
They honestly thought lobotomies actually helped. It’s true there’s probably a lot of holes in our mental illness knowledge that can use more research. But we’re a long way from the days of lobotomies and have made progress. It’s easy to look back and say lobotomies are cruel and they are. But at the time they were thought they helped
The one to the rocker in 80s surprised me. I thought lobotomies were no longer done in the 80s.
It's always a good day whenever Weird History uploads
Francis Farmer. She was a Hollywood star on the rise and her mom had her lobotomized. Nirvana did a song about her too.
Kennedy..how sad
Yeah that family is really having a lot of misfortunes and you wonder about that curse this wasn't the only bad event they had either.
RIP Dave Insurgent. When Reagan Youth reformed in the early 2000s, they slept on the floor of my apartment when they played in Chicago :)
I saw Howard Dully on a TV show a long time ago. I think it was on TLC, back when they used to actually be The Learning Channel. He got an MRI on the show and they said that he'd been the only person who'd had a lobotomy, ever known to have an MRI. That was shocking to me because I would think researchers as well as doctors who just needed to so for medical reasons, would've done MRI scans on lots of lobotomized people, by now. I mean the technology has been around since the early 80's, for God's sake! The doctor who did Howard's MRI said that he probably relearned how to feel empathy and emotions and recover whatever other missing functions he did, because he worked so hard at it. I'm not sure, but I think the doctor also might have said that Howard's damage wasn't as bad as he thought it was going to be, because only a small area had been cut. Of course, there's wild variability in how lobotomized people do because there was no standardization as far as how much of the brain was cut, or exactly where it was cut. I mean they did it by jamming an ice pick up someone's nose, as fast as possible, without even being able to see what they're doing!
These are the same medical institutions that advocated smoking for good health and are still telling us what's healthy today. If that's not absolutely terrifying then I don't know what is.
It's very true. It's the same people still treating us. But we have a lot more safeguards in place. We're in the safest period of medicine any human has ever experienced. ❤
This video reminds me of the movie Return to Oz!
Another interesting subject so thanks.😮
My son is Autistic and he definitely would have been lobotomized and instutionalized back then :(.
That's just sick, among those patients was Rosemary Kennedy.
She was born during the 1918 flu pandemic with a congenital disability, during her young adult years she experienced seizures and episodes of violent behavior. In 1941, her father arranged a prefrontal lobotomy at the age of 23 that would "help" with her behavior. Unfortunately, she was left with the state of a 2-year-old or left incapacitated and unable to speak.
These people were robbed of their lives 😢
The logic: - by inflicting brain damage on purpose, by blindly waggling an ice pick through the brain the patient is so damaged it relieves the symptoms alongside turning them into a vegetable. Ergo - killing the patient also relieves the patients symptoms because they are not alive ...
I have a colleague who was given a lobotomy in 1986!She let me feel the two holes in her head. She had it for severe OCD and says it had no effect whatsoever on her condition plus it took about five years to recover her speech, memory, movement and ability to read and write and do a job. Credit to her for working to get back to a normal life which she did without psychiatrists!
Have we learn't? Absolutely not - society has taken to vigorously slicing off healthy body parts, and mutilating bodies particularly in children to try and resolve issues that are experienced in the mind. In 40 years people will be watching a similar video about this - saying, how did this happen?
EVERY surgery requires slicing off and mutilating healthy parts of the body. It's impossible not to. Every medical option will all have some kind of negative affect on a healthy body. The point is whether the good outweighs the bad in these scenarios.
You have it backwards. We HAVE learned, because we no longer perform the surgeries that were recognized as unreasonably harmful, while now implementing the best practices we know of currently with the biggest benefit and fewest drawbacks. Some of or current medical practices may end up being found to have more negative consequences than we initially realized, and then we'll later discover later methods that are far more effective. That's not barbaric or unethical, that's progress.
Would you refuse chemo if you had cancer, just because it has negative side effects and a better solution might emerge in the next few decades? Would you refuse antibiotics for a deadly bacterial infection, just because that drugs you take could encourage the growth of a more deadly and more harmful outbreak that we have no solution to?
Hindsight is 20/20, and saying "this past thing we did is bad" without understanding why it was done is just a combination of ignorance and egotism, as you just assume people decades or centuries ago should have been doing certain things. But it's only BECAUSE they were done and through numerous research and examination that we can now determine how beneficial or harmful they are.
@ I literally have no idea what you are talking about.
@@55tranquility I explained in detail why your claim that we haven't learned is false. Did you actually read it? About how medical care and procedures have always been improving?
You literally said " In 40 years people will be watching a similar video about this - saying, how did this happen?". Doesn't that mean we'll have improved our views of medical treatments by then? How could they look back and say "we did it wrong", if they didn't see the flaws we made along the way and improved on what we currently are doing?
@ The context of the video is psychiatry and the use of quack invasive techniques on the body to 'fix' something in the mind, this is the context of my comment. As a mental health nurse for over thirty years I can assure you that people with serious mental illness today are more likely to be homeless or die prematurely than at any point in the last 150 years, with lifespans that are 10 to 20 years less than the general population. Services, hospitals, safe spaces, wards and clinicians have been cut so much they are unrecognisable to even when I began training. For decades the pharmaceutical industry has churned out dozens of antidepressants and antipsychotics, but there is no evidence that they are more effective than the drugs that emerged between 1950 and 1990. In fact every single antidepressant available is based on the first antipsychotic that came to market in the 1950s they are all variations of this drug not new medicines. Biological research has also failed to reveal why psychiatric drugs help some patients but not others. When a patient asks me how an antidepressant works, I have to shrug my shoulders. “We just don’t know, but we do have evidence that there’s a third of all people who take them find them very helpful” One patient responded, “Doesn’t it have to do with neurotransmitters or something?” I sighed, “Yes, that was the theory for a while, but it didn’t pan out.”
And how about stigma? As anthropologist Helena Hansen has argued, the neuroscience of addiction has often reinforced stigma by reducing substance use to an individual problem, instead of the result of structural factors rooted in longer histories of racial violence. American psychiatrists also diagnose Black and Brown patients with disproportionate rates of schizophrenia compared to white patients-a disparity that psychiatrist-sociologist Jonathan Metzl traces to psychiatrists in the 1970s who pathologized Black activism as “psychosis.” Finally, Black patients experiencing mental health crises, including children, are more likely to experience the violence of being physically restrained, tied to their beds in ways that resemble the experiences of asylum patients over a century ago.
In 2015 the former director of the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), Thomas Insel, crystallized this disillusionment: "I spent 13 years at [NIMH] pushing on the neuroscience and genetics of mental disorders, and when I look back . . . I realize that while . . . I succeeded at getting lots of really cool papers published by cool scientists at fairly large costs-I think $20 billion-I don’t think we moved the needle in reducing suicide, reducing hospitalizations, improving recovery for the tens of millions of people who have mental illness."
It does not help that academic psychiatry today feels out of touch. Many people have underscored the profound importance of mental health amid the social isolation of the pandemic, racial violence in our society, and the increasingly hyper-competitive culture of schools, sports, and the market. But academic psychiatry’s almost singular focus on brain-based research has meant that the profession has been largely absent from these conversations. And for what? All the “cool papers” on neurobiology have won academic grants and helped professors get promoted, but they have not meaningfully impacted the diagnosis and care of the millions of people suffering psychic distress.
But this is not hopeless, I have seen huge strides in the effectiveness of cognitive therapies, particularly third wave CBT alongside a recognition of the importance of mindfulness and mindfulness based CBT. I have also soon a move towards recovery and recovery focussed treatment, including peer support and a focus on social connection, learning, supporting your own community and feeling valid, exercise - these things can bring a profound change to peoples lives and are a huge opportunity. Sticking things in someone's brain not so much.
Getting a lobotomy sounds like a fate worse than death in most cases!
It's sad that these people had to go through what they did. Basically a lifetime of memories gone in an instant. Their personalities, changed. Back in the day, Dr.'s did hail lobotomies and the end all of end alls. The medical procedure was at the forefront of medicine for the mentally ill. To bad is was misused and a lot of innocent people had their memories and basically who they were as a person taken away. Electroshock therapy was and still is used on patients who have ongoing severe depression. The Electroshock induces a seizure. When the patient, they are typically more happy. The seizure releases specific hormones that help with the recovering of depression. Some patients have had multiple electroshock treatments. The patient is put to sleep with anesthesia before the procedure.
You are correct. Also, the seizure should last at least 25 seconds to be effective. Usually, the patient would have a series of 6-8 sessions over a couple of weeks. I've seen ECT work wonders in severe cases of manic-depression, and schizoaffective disorder while working as a psychiatric RN who assisted with ECT therapy.
@@Cybersawz I to would at times help out with the electroshock therapies. It always amazed me how it worked and the theories of its development.
2:31 Speaking of the family name Freeman, my family lived in The Freeman House when I was at Burwell Public School (Grades 1-12).
I also had a classmate with the family name Freeman for 12 straight years!
7:47 Reminds me of the street drug Slo-Mo on the superhero movie Dredd!
... Superhero movie?
@@MaxDeckard It might not be known as a Superhero movie, but it is one.
@btetschner dredd has no superpowers in the film or comics.
It's just a dystopian sci fi movie.
@@MaxDeckard He has a super sense of justice that motivated him to go through a kill zone that looked like guaranteed suicide. Even the best officers would not have the motivation or skill to survive that.
Nice video ❤🎉🎉
wasn't expecting a reagan youth shout today!
A+ video!
LOVE IT! A real mind-altering video!
Take ur meds buddy.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about Frances Farmer.
Thanks for this! 🧠
2:31 Another reference to Freeman...Freddie Freeman won the World Series MVP and was crucial for the Dodgers winning the World Series!
The Dodgers were established in 1883, the same year my hometown of Burwell, Nebraska was platted.
My family lived in The Freeman House when I was in public school, my great aunt Dorothy Freeman sold it to us for $6,000!
Kennedy's sister is the most tragic and saddest!
Rose Williams did inspire "The Glass Menagerie", one on Tennessee William's greatest works - so, there's that...
It’s horrific that these evil “doctors” were allowed to get away with all of this. It’s even more horrific that they’re still getting away with abusing patients today, especially confused children. They need to be put away…or worse.
Tech.
Well at least for this time, they have the luxury thinking that lobotomies are actually helpful and work. You can say that with a lot of treatments too at the time. Hell it was once considered a medical fact that to save someone from drowning, you just need to blow smoke up their ass. This is where we get the term smoke up your ass as in someone said something you think is trying to trick you is the truth because the claim is so ridiculous
But we’ve came a long way since then. While you can say that ok medical knowledge was basically non existent compared to now. Some practices were believed to be helpful like blood letting. So you can look at that and say well yeah that’s not right. But at least the intent was to help. We don’t have the excuse now for the most part that “oh I didn’t know lobotomies are a load of crap”
It was mostly 1 show man. He was a con man as well.
Don't really need to bring conspiracies into this channel unless I'm misinterpreting today. Vote Kamala 2024 ❤
@@rarephoenix if you can show me one part of that that was a conspiracy theory, go right ahead.
At 8:46 Never underestimate the power of the Ministry of Silly Walks...I mean the Schwartz...I mean the force...I don't know what I mean...🤪😜🤪 Lol
I know what you mean 🙃🫨😵💫
7:40 what happened to the video here?
editing?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy 🍺😁😅
you beat me to it ! Shall I delete mine ?
Keep pouring from that bottle and it'll soon make no difference 😉
Keep pouring from that bottle and soon y won't be able to tell the difference 😉
Damn it, I just made a reply with that. 🙃🤪😵💫
@@thetvbaby83 sorry you were late, I came in 2nd place
Freeman should’ve been locked up, what a monster.
I always get tensed when I hear lobotomy. Thank you Dr W. J. Freeman
Growing up there was an older lady in the granny flat attached to our house, that her parents rented for her. She'd had a lobotomy some time in the early 60s. She was okay, quiet and a bit slow even to my 7yo eyes. She got her meals delivered by meals on wheels. As a kid I thought that was odd, because at 7 I could cook. I didn't understand what had been done to that poor woman.
It’s a shame what happened to Rosemary Kennedy.
@0:20 "...this treatment rarely worked"
That doesn't sound so good
Please make a video on spontaneous human combustion 🔥
I've listened to enough lobotomy stoiees to know for a fact that would have been my fate if i wasnt lucky enough to be born when i was
How does your iq improve after losing the ability to make new memories
This is where tall, strong native american friends come in handy.
I wonder if any of these butchers that called themselves doctors ended up in jail for their barbarism.
I’m about ready to request a lobotomy. My anxiety is unbearable.
I take sertraline, name brand is zoloft. It just gives you a lift, chases away the negativity. No drowsiness or any side effects I've ever noticed.
I am all for getting on meds! Helped me loads. If that isn’t an option for you though, try ashwaganda supplements. They assist with anxiety and focus. Might take a few weeks to feel the full effects for some, but I tend to feel relief instantly depending on my dose. It’s 100% natural and safe and I can’t recommend it enough. Wishing you the best, friend.
This comes as no surprise to me. Given the human penchant towards the ridiculous end of a spectrum, it should come as no surprise to others that the criminal justice system still relies on polygraphy to determine the guilt of an accused person.
I don't need to imagine. I talk to plenty of lobotomy victims on the daily
Red hats 😂
Democrats? 😂
@@lois2997 nah tinfoil Boi 😂
I watched Alex and MTG. Ghey frogs and jew space Lazers. 😂 Clowns 🤡
@@NFLdom22 Sorry my party doesn't want to kill babies. Enjoy your cheeto dust felon!
@@thetvbaby83 You misspelled blue
Sounds like a horror movie! Yikes!
Anyone else thinking of the movie Suckerpunch?
no need for invasive procedure, today we are lobotomized by tv and film
8:37 Tennessee Williams went to the University of Missouri (my grad school).
You've commented multiple times already
All lobotomies were shocking.
❤yes
People would pay a large sum of money to experience 1 day in 15 minutes. Inception?
This is only beneficial if your body is aging 15 minutes, but your mind is gaining or remembering that 1 days worth of memory. In his case, your body aged 1 day, but the memories of it only last 15 minutes. Sounds horrible.
id rather have a bottle in front of me then a frontal labotomy
Rosemary Kennedy suffered brain damage because her mother was told to keep her legs closed while she was in labour until a doctor could come. She was taken away and her siblings had to find her
That is so shockingly sick. That poor woman.
@ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy
I dont mind this type of content.
Beatrice Sugarman's mother, Honey. If you know, you know. 😒
Nowadays, peoples with these kind of symptoms and conditions can just do one psylocibin trip and be free for life
I think Patricia maybe just needed a divorce.
10:38 I use Colgate Total toothpaste, with the rainbow colors on the front!
10:27 In reference again to James Watts...I have the Wheaties box cover for the one with Justin James Watt (J.J. Watt) and his brother T.J. Watt.
I cut it off and put it in the Wheaties box for Simone Biles, the box that is holding the box covers.
The next one to go into that box is Billie Jean King!
Imagine parents sending their child to a mental institution simply because they argued with them. Bible thumpers used to do that all the time. You know...back when America was, um, "great".
10:27 Speaking of the name James Watts...Justin James Watt (J.J. Watt) and I wore the same football number: 99.
We also have the same middle name (James).
He was NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2015, the year I graduated from nursing school.
What did Genevieve even do?!
She was a woman.
Can't have a lobotomy story without talking about the Kennedys.
Didn't Walter Freeman have a loboto-mobile that he'd drive around to crank out lobotomies even faster? It was like the Oscar Meyer Weiner Mobile.. but for lobotomies.
those r just famous cases. the other stories keep piling up tallies in the BAD column. BAD is oc an understatement. disgusting.
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The aromas of TDS is strong in the comment section today 🤔
Trump Devotee Simpering? Yeah, some pointless comments saying Harris was lobotomized, because they're unable to make meaningful criticism of her proposed policies.
None of which would be relevant to this video about a history of medicine, in any case.
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I wish i could have a lobotomy sometimes I hate having feelings an thoughts most days
Depression anxiety ptsd borderline personality disorder adhd 😅 a frickin mess over here
You guys are using my image as well as my fathers as a thumbnail for your lobotomy video on RUclips.
You do not have my permission to use my work, or images of myself or my dad to promote your content. Not to mention the absolute disgust and insensitivity you have by captioning the image with “no brainer” after a terrible event that forever impacted my family.
Please remove this image as your thumbnail to your video immediately.
They still do it to elderly with dementia, expecially the ones that want to eacape
It's only the methods that have changed nowadays.
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I am going to watch the videos:
x Walter Jackson Freeman II: The Champion of the Lobotomy
x Bizarre Medical Practices From History
x What It Was Like Going To A Doctor In Wild West
x How a 19th Century Doctor's Tried to Get His Peers To Wash Their Hands
x What Was Hospital Hygiene Like On Ellis Island
Eating ANOTHER Weird History candy!
Eating Halloween Candy*†...while watching this Weird History video!
I scored it when I went to Trick r' Treat!
* Inspired from the Weird History video "Stories About Your Favorite Halloween Candy"
† It's Fun Size of Oreo Boo!, Welch's Fruit Snacks (Mixed Fruit), Twix, Butterfinger, M & Ms, Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, Milky Way, Hershey's, Kit Kat, and Skittles.
*Sees title*
There is a modern method of lobotomization today. It's called modern memes, using technology instead of doing actual parenting and seeing Zoomers and Gen Alphas bastardize the English language.
Okay dork 😂
@Travreviews Dork.... Now that's a word I haven't heard since Ed, Edd n Eddy
Hi! Linguist here 😄 The English you use today is already bastardized. Even the sentence you wrote was bastardized, through and through!
Seems like you're an angry fella! I recommend meditation, or perhaps yoga if you don't like sitting still while meditating. Hope that helps! ❤
@@nomoretwitterhandles We all just have one of those days..
@@nomoretwitterhandlesHi, normal person here. It's obvious that OP was talking about the EXTREME lack of correct grammar that the younger generations use. Did you really not catch that? 😂
Right before the election?.. apt.
What does this have to do with it?
How does youtube allow channels like this to spread so much misinformation. Something def. Needs to be done about this 🤔
Just watch Trump talk and we can see the aftereffects.
You mean K.H.' word salads. Her interviews need to be heavily edited, like the 60 Minutes Israel answer, which was completely switched, and even then she isn't the brightest bulb... She is a totalitarian, a l. Eye er, who's administration abuses it's power to oppress her opposition, Tulsi Gabbard and others. Exposed by all law enforcement she ever worked and posed with in photo ops.
D.T., the only peace President in decades, negotiating peace treaties all over the world, talks 3 hours to Rogan and makes total sense. It's just the fake reality you see in the billionaire corporate F news.
Shut up you democrat, if anything just watch Joe Biden speak oh wait he can’t really talk because all he does his stutter that’s the real after effects
Yea, Trump actually has done really good things for this country like I don’t know Keeping us out of wars, we probably have gotten close to going to war with Biden in office.
Funny! That’s how most of the world feels towards Kamala…
P.S. Thanks to her policy 10.000s confirmed (border patrol) rpsts and mrds roam FREE in the US, doing their "deeds". 325.000 migr children went missing under her watch. She is a DEI (J.B.s own characterization) hire & f8lure all the way, like she was as a DA and AG back then. Whereas D.T. fought like a lion against chld, drg and sx trffkn ! She is just an image created by the billionaire media, no substance to it. Thanks to her administration we are a sneeze away from nucl. esc.
We can ask the North Carolina blk conservative who said he's not blk and all blk ppl should give reparations to all whites. Funny enough Trump said he's tho modern MLK 😂 YT blocking my comments but why haven't any blk conservatives gave any aid to the poor whites in Mississippi or Alabama
What the fuck does this have to do with this video you parasitic mong
Nope. He called him "MLK on steroids" because he's a "content of their character" guy and not a "color of their skin" guy.
@taylorlibby7642 so a joke and I wonder if he gave back to us whites then ? 🤣🐒
@@taylorlibby7642 is that why blk conservatives didn't attend Jan 6 and th one that did was a "gay blk conservative" 🤣🐒
@taylorlibby7642 like the gay blk conservative who attended Jan 6 and also called himself white and was booted by white conservatives who don't like gays
Just A little mind manipulation.....
Rather have a lobotomy than listen to another narrator
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.
If you have any further questions just ask any woman voting for Trump.
Or blk conservatives who call themselves white 😂
Stop spreading your c... ultist blue F news. Liar.
Or any man voting for Kamala.
Meanwhile Democrats storm out of interviews and avoid debates because you can't defend or articulate your heinous positions...🙄 bunch of liberal zombies
@taylorlibby7642 or any gay blk conservatives voting trump, Knowing damn well they will be rejected by us 🤷🏻🤣
I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.🍻🍺🍺
I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
I think Trump had one
Because thinking of Trump 24/7 is such a beacon of sanity, right? 😂😂😂
Just look at Kamala if you want to know
I recon america would do so much better if people didn't just sling crap around.
I'd include lying but no politician can avoid lying
I didn't know she had a successful lobotomy! Did she suffer from epilepsy beforehand? It's really amazing what modern medicine can do 😄 She speaks so wonderfully, you never would've guessed!
@@gravel7614 Exactly! That is why we need the non-politician Trump back in office. Thanks for playing.
@@nomoretwitterhandles Again, you're having a joke right. Oh I get it, you're a bot. That is the only way you could remotely think KH speaks wonderfully.
@@blooper_01 Trump is a politician now. He was president for a term. And after his term he stayed in the politics game. And in case you didn't notice. He lied. A lot
Just listen to Kamala speak-you’ll have the same effect.
that's a funny way of spelling republicans
Really? Not the raging white supremacist who spreads hate everywhere he goes? Okay then.
If you're already gone, definitely! I've heard her speak and she seems to be quite eloquent. Her speeches are very interesting! She's not worth listening to if you're not a listener, so I recommend googling up simplified versions of her policies if you want to remain educated on her platform. Even if you don't like her, it doesn't hurt to stay educated!
@@nomoretwitterhandles You're joking right? There is no way on this blue marble you think KH speaks quite eloquently.
You could have just interviewed someone at a kamala harris rally.
Thank you Big Daddy Kush for your insightful comment! You must have dozens of PhDs collecting dust!
Because we all that the people of the community are the people of the community.
With hopes. And dreams. And aspirations.
@@nomoretwitterhandles I have one, and it collects no dust.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.