Looking at getting a cube emtb Probably the reaction pro 625. The dealer was telling me I wouldn’t feel any lag when the motor cuts out at 15 mph. Is this right,surely I’ll get some.
let's address the elephant in the room... money. EMTBs have reached absurd prices with the higher end stuff being comparable to motocross bikes... and I don't think that is justified at all. On top of that: availability... I would actually prefer a Bosch motored bike, but I can't really chose. After setting budget, frame size and a few key components like brakes that actually work.. there isn't much left to chose from- at least this season
Your right, when they reviewed the new KTM ebike, I looked on their site and their ebike was more than some of their motor bikes. I can't see how a bicycle costs more than a motorbike. What I do know, from inside information is that the mark up is massive on all bicycles, over 100% in some places. The cheapest full suspension bike with a Bosch motor I have seen was in decathlon it was under £3k but I think it's closer to £3.5k now, but it always seems to be out of stock, that's still a big chunk of money.
I'll second that, hopefully heavy competition will push prices down to an average man's affordable wallet, unfortunately the absurd price market will continue until popularity slows down greed will remain £££££
Yes! It was featured on "Where in the world" a few shows ago. I'm limited on which bikes are available to me as I'm only 5ft and love 29ers. Have a 2020 Orbea Wild FS H20 S/M with shorter dropper, shorter stem so it fits.
That's a brilliant bike! That's great that you've made the switch to 29er. It sounds like you've managed to get the perfect setup for your height as well! Thanks for the support! 👍
The unfortunate reality is that no matter what brand/model/spec might appeal, you are restricted to what’s in stock at your LBS if you want to test ride and buy it this year!
I would like to see a seat set up like the Kuberg ranger on a downhill mtb, I think it would solve a lot of problems and look way better. Bike at time 2:52 and most trail bikes in general.
Steve you managed to get a ride on the Flyer Panasonic 95 Nm but looking at the Valeo Motor and gearbox artisan ebikes are worth further investigation.
Another great show guys 👏 could you possibly mention if you know just how long someone might have to wait fir the Bike I've been waiting 3months for my Heckler, its killing me 🤣 what's going on with waiting times ? Thanks lads be safe Biff 👊👍
@@VenoXj1The Cube 140 HPC can be found very cheap (comparatively). I almost bought one here in Australia for $6000AUD which is 3800usd. Ended up buying a hard tail instead though. The Cube Reaction Hybrid Pro, which was 3500aud or 2200usd. I would have loved the 140HPC, but I commute on my bike a lot so it's not worth it really.
Does anyone know the focus 150 jam with the öhlins suspension at 7:41 ? I’ve never seen this bike before and I can’t find it on the Focus website either
This channel likes to push the fact you need a certain bike for certain riding, which I find bizarre, this is mountain biking, you don't know what you will come across, the terrain varies along the route. It's just nonsense, I have always ridden a hard tail, and I have never been anywhere, where I have thought I need a certain bike, I just ride it regardless.
You are right, you don't need a fully. But, for me personally, since I've gone fully I won't go back. I didn't see him saying you need Bike X for task Y. There wasn't anything pushed upon me watching this video. You just took it at a personal level I guess.
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See my channel for a reality check on a Bosch powered eMTB
yes, riding a 2022 Trek Rail 9.8 XT and absolutely love it.
My cx second gen is still performing like day one since 2017 . My next ebike will be a Bosch cx 4th gen.
Orbea is from andorra, not Portugal, unfortunately. Nice videos, as always. Thanks for all
Looking at getting a cube emtb
Probably the reaction pro 625.
The dealer was telling me I wouldn’t feel any lag when the motor cuts out at 15 mph.
Is this right,surely I’ll get some.
let's address the elephant in the room... money. EMTBs have reached absurd prices with the higher end stuff being comparable to motocross bikes... and I don't think that is justified at all. On top of that: availability... I would actually prefer a Bosch motored bike, but I can't really chose. After setting budget, frame size and a few key components like brakes that actually work.. there isn't much left to chose from- at least this season
Your right, when they reviewed the new KTM ebike, I looked on their site and their ebike was more than some of their motor bikes. I can't see how a bicycle costs more than a motorbike. What I do know, from inside information is that the mark up is massive on all bicycles, over 100% in some places.
The cheapest full suspension bike with a Bosch motor I have seen was in decathlon it was under £3k but I think it's closer to £3.5k now, but it always seems to be out of stock, that's still a big chunk of money.
demand is high so they can pretty much ask what they want these days.
I'll second that, hopefully heavy competition will push prices down to an average man's affordable wallet, unfortunately the absurd price market will continue until popularity slows down greed will remain £££££
@@acelectricalsecurity Have you seen what an analog bike cost these days? about the same....
@@thewrx2600 I have yes, and some of them are over priced
Bosch all the way, 15 month and 1200 miles no problem with the motor/ battery, only replaced tyres- pads and bearings.
Yes! It was featured on "Where in the world" a few shows ago. I'm limited on which bikes are available to me as I'm only 5ft and love 29ers. Have a 2020 Orbea Wild FS H20 S/M with shorter dropper, shorter stem so it fits.
That's a brilliant bike! That's great that you've made the switch to 29er. It sounds like you've managed to get the perfect setup for your height as well! Thanks for the support! 👍
I have a 2022 CUBE Stereo Hybrid 160. Riding is so much more fun in every way than it’s ever been for me.
so you never rode anything before then?
Why is it you never cover hardtail emtb’s on this channel I love my cube reaction exc hardtail
Cause ITS hard. WHO tf wants that in the trail. Only good Thing is uphills thats jt.
@@lakaldrak THATS TOO FUNNY
I wonder if Bosch does any testing on a e-mtb. Looking at their big ass controller one might think they don’t have a clue.
Ridden them all and this is the best motors- hands down
The unfortunate reality is that no matter what brand/model/spec might appeal, you are restricted to what’s in stock at your LBS if you want to test ride and buy it this year!
Do you have any plans to test the pole voima?
I would like to see a seat set up like the Kuberg ranger on a downhill mtb, I think it would solve a lot of problems and look way better. Bike at time 2:52 and most trail bikes in general.
Steve looked like he wanted to throw a hay maker at the dude walking through the shot 😂
Just got the Canyon Spectral cf8 on with Shimano EP8 and it's a total weapon 🥰
Rattling Monster ep8. Thats why i still Ride e8000. Maybe Bosch or pwx3
good luck with that ep8
Great show and informative As always thanks very much 👍
Currently in the USA bike festivals are few and far between and demo rides are slim pickings.
Hey Richard! If you're anywhere near Sea Otter Classic next year that's well worth a visit for all things e-bike tech! 👍
@@embn I wish in Northern New York state. But keep up the solid reporting and I'll be there vicariously through RUclips
Do you know if there are any Radon dealers in the UK? They won’t sell direct to the UK themselves
When will you be reviewing the new whyte ebike range. That's if you are
One of our favourite bikes Brendon, had many great days on currrent bike, we will hopefully
@@stevejones7956 are you waiting for the new bike to be released? There have been a couple of pics from Whyte but they’re not giving much away yet.
Steve you managed to get a ride on the Flyer Panasonic 95 Nm but looking at the Valeo Motor and gearbox artisan ebikes are worth further investigation.
Another great show guys 👏 could you possibly mention if you know just how long someone might have to wait fir the Bike I've been waiting 3months for my Heckler, its killing me 🤣 what's going on with waiting times ? Thanks lads be safe Biff 👊👍
Easy to use and hold weight up to 300 lb
I like more the hardtail options. Not everyone has €8000 in their pocket.
You don't necessarily need 8k€ to get a fully from a well known brand. My 2022 Cube 140 HPC wasn't even close to 8k.
@@VenoXj1The Cube 140 HPC can be found very cheap (comparatively). I almost bought one here in Australia for $6000AUD which is 3800usd. Ended up buying a hard tail instead though. The Cube Reaction Hybrid Pro, which was 3500aud or 2200usd. I would have loved the 140HPC, but I commute on my bike a lot so it's not worth it really.
What is the weight of the bicycle?
yes
Any reviews on the Bafang motor
😂
@@richardkaz2336 lol
Does this video tell you anything? Well, it kinda does and it doesn't.
Does anyone know the focus 150 jam with the öhlins suspension at 7:41 ?
I’ve never seen this bike before and I can’t find it on the Focus website either
Probably custom.
Its an older model about 2-3 years older. There a video about it on this channel as its a pro’s personal bike.
I need one of these bikes. Can I afford to buy it? does it matter? well. it kinda does and it kind of doesn't LOL
I see what you did there.
does it matter?
Well, it kinda does and doesn't.
;)
live once - make debt - enjoy bike- eat pizza - the end
This channel likes to push the fact you need a certain bike for certain riding, which I find bizarre, this is mountain biking, you don't know what you will come across, the terrain varies along the route. It's just nonsense, I have always ridden a hard tail, and I have never been anywhere, where I have thought I need a certain bike, I just ride it regardless.
Does this video tell you anything? Well, it kinda does and it doesn't.
You are right, you don't need a fully. But, for me personally, since I've gone fully I won't go back. I didn't see him saying you need Bike X for task Y. There wasn't anything pushed upon me watching this video.
You just took it at a personal level I guess.
Did you happen to notice the pro racer is wearing GLOVES just saying
Orbea is not from Portugal…
Yes just noticed, sorry brain fade!
Spain 🤣
Not Spain, Basque! (Euskal Herria)😎
@@devbrix1 Euskadi Spain 😉 scotland UK 😉 Texas USA 😉
TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH SINCE I RECEIVED MY FIRST MOUNTAIN E BIKE BULLS EVO 4 , IM JUST OVER WHELMED WITH THE DIFFERENT OTHER BOSCH E MOUNTAIN BIKES.
Dude, discussing the difference that +/- 1cm of travel makes to a ride? Really?!
The channel for poser wanna feel like a posh girl 😂
what a load of repeated blahblah
Overpriced tec
only if your poor