Well, as the axiom goes: "He who enters the conclave as pope leaves it as a cardinal." The Lord Holy Spirit knows what he is doing; let us never undermine that!
"Jesus Christ is Lord..."✝️ God bless Pope Francis, God's choice by God's Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank You Lord Jesus for Your assurances of Matthew 16 v18-19.✝️🛐🙏 P.s. Even the Son of God Himself was rejected by the know-it-alls of His day! ✝️💕💒😇
Read what St Francis prophesied on his death bed, then look at Bergoglio's "election'' The Cardinals [AKA the St Gallen Mafia] IGNORED the Holy Spirit and foisted the fake 'pope' on the Church. Please look it up - Only the least educated follow the evil one with eyes wide shut!
I remember watching the opening of the conclave on TV, and saw every voting cardinal take an oath of absolute secrecy, which is as it should be. But you have all of these vote totals and details, which means some cardinals were not true to their oath. Am I the only one who finds that troubling?
The 'cardinals' who planned the upheaval in our Church and Faith did so knowing that in doing so they spat in God's holy face. That means that had no compunction about publicly taking a false and gravely sinful 'oath',
My Papabile who were not was Stanislaw Dziwisz in 2013 when Pope Francis became Pope because he takes care and companion to Pope John Paul II and his boss Karol Wojtyla that I wish to be Papabile in Aug 1978 (but he became JPII in Oct 1978), Stefan Wyszynski in 1963 he leads the Communist catholic Poland, Aloysius Stepinac (helps against Political turmoel in Yugoslavia and Jozef Mindszenty helps against communism in Hungary in 1960)
The problem with younger men as pope is that they last longer, for example John Paul 2 close to 25 years on the papacy the cardinals don't want such long tenure on the throne of peter.
The theme for the 1958 conclave that elected John XXIII could be called "the anyone but Cardinal Siri for pope." Cardinal Siri, I understand, was one of the great minds of the 12th century. Cardinal Koenig came to regret his politicking for John Paul II. Not once but twice, John Paul ignored Koenig's recommendations for Koenig's successor in Vienna, one of whom had to be removed due to accusations of abuse. Koenig knew of John Paul due to his diplomatic work for the Church in eastern Europe. Koenig, a leader at Vatican II, didn't how conservative the Polish prelate was. Supposedly, Koenig apologized to progressive Catholics for managing John Paul's election as pope, Too bad, Cardinal Montini wasn't elected; he would made a great pope.
I believe that Montini was not seriously considered in 1958 because he was not yet a cardinal. While being a Prince of the Church is not a requirement for selection as Pope, it has been a tradition for centuries. Of course, Montini was selected in 1963 after the death of John XXIII
@@ransomcoates546 I meant Carlo Martini of Milan. He would have been better than Ratzinger, but again, anyone would have been a better pope than Ratzinger. As for the 1958 conclave, Archbishop Montini of Milan got a few votes. The future Pope Paul VI was the right hand of Pius XIII, until Montini criticized the handling of the Vatican finances by the Pacelli nephews. Pius sent Montini to Milan without a red hat. John XXIII made Montini a cardinal at his first consistory. Near the end of his life, John XXIII said Montini would make a good pope. Mpntini wasn't a great thinker but was a good adminitrator
One of the rules of a Conclave is that only 4 scrutinies (Voting Sessions) are allowed in one day. The rules were broken for Bergoglio and was voted Pope on the 5th Voting session. A 5th is forbbiden.
It's clearly not God's decision. God's permissive Will rather than active Will is not God's decision. Bergoglio was the candidate of pre-Conclave electioneering during two Conclaves. Which is strictly forbidden.
God does NOT choose the Pope; cardinals do. The Holy Spirit’s inspiration is present but not always accepted, as we see in the disastrous papacy of Francis.
😌 You poor deluded mouthpiece of Satan. God bless Pope Francis, God's choice by God's Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank You Lord Jesus. P.s. Even the Son of God Himself was rejected by the know-it-alls of His day! ✝️💕💒😇
😌 You poor deluded mouthpiece of Satan. God bless Pope Francis, God's choice by God's Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank You Lord Jesus. P.s. Even the Son of God Himself was rejected by the know-it-alls of His day! ✝️💕💒😇
😌 You poor deluded mouthpiece of Satan. God bless Pope Francis, God's choice by God's Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank You Lord Jesus. P.s. Even the Son of God Himself was rejected by the know-it-alls of His day! ✝️💕💒😇
@@goretspubgGod's permissive will, not necessarily his positive will; the Cardinals do not give up their free will and become puppets of the Holy Spirit.
Catholicism is work salvation, please turn to Christ in faith as the Bible clearly says we are saved by grace which translates to CHARIS meaning "unmeritted favor/free gift." quite literally. There is a Reason why Paul says in Romans "for the wages of sin is death, but the FREE gift of God is eternal life through christ Jesus our lord." Again grace's literal translation in the Greek is "unmeritted favor/free gift." Salvation is completely free all you have to do is believe that what Jesus did for you 2000 years ago actually worked. He died as a substitute for sin on the cross for you and me because the penalty for sin is death, if the penalty has already been paid and "by grace you have saved through faith" then all you are doing is believing that his payment was for you, a.k.a excepting it and believing you have eternal life as a result of his finished work (and of course believing he rose from the dead as a dead savior can't save you.) The reason you cannot add a work to Christ's finished work is because as Paul makes clear in Romans 11:6 "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." You aren't under grace if you add something to the gospel because grace must be unmeritted for it to be attributed to you. Again, you are just trusting in what Christ already did for you, that's why in ephesians Paul says "after you believed, you were sealed with that holy spirit of promise, which is the GUARANTEE of our inherentance until the redemption of the purchased possession." Paul can't use the word guarantee here if salvation is partially based off of something you do, as obviously YOU can fail in your efforts meaning there is obviously no guarantee. But if it is entirely based off of what Christ did, then there is a guarantee.
The only "great mistake" I am aware of during this period is Pope John Paul II doing nothing about the clerical sexual abuse scandal and actively covering it up. That God that Pope Francis has been tackling this scandal head on. Electing Ratzinger might also be considered a "great mistake" by many people. He did little to fix the sex abuse AND financial scandals in the Vatican. No wonder he resigned.
Well, as the axiom goes: "He who enters the conclave as pope leaves it as a cardinal." The Lord Holy Spirit knows what he is doing; let us never undermine that!
Amen.✝️💕👍 God bless our pope, Pope Francis.💒😇
I love this channel man. Good job 👏🏼
"Jesus Christ is Lord..."✝️
God bless Pope Francis, God's choice by God's Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank You Lord Jesus for Your assurances of Matthew 16 v18-19.✝️🛐🙏
P.s.
Even the Son of God Himself was rejected by the know-it-alls of His day!
✝️💕💒😇
Read what St Francis prophesied on his death bed, then look at Bergoglio's "election'' The Cardinals [AKA the St Gallen Mafia] IGNORED the Holy Spirit and foisted the fake 'pope' on the Church. Please look it up - Only the least educated follow the evil one with eyes wide shut!
i don't think anything could pressure Our Pope Francis.
god bless Pope Francis.
You are nuts!
You are joking! Have you watched him whenever he mentions Traditional Catholics???
I remember watching the opening of the conclave on TV, and saw every voting cardinal take an oath of absolute secrecy, which is as it should be. But you have all of these vote totals and details, which means some cardinals were not true to their oath. Am I the only one who finds that troubling?
The oath of secrecy is in only during the election. They’re free to give details of the conclave after it is finished.
The 'cardinals' who planned the upheaval in our Church and Faith did so knowing that in doing so they spat in God's holy face. That means that had no compunction about publicly taking a false and gravely sinful 'oath',
My Papabile who were not was Stanislaw Dziwisz in 2013 when Pope Francis became Pope because he takes care and companion to Pope John Paul II and his boss Karol Wojtyla that I wish to be Papabile in Aug 1978 (but he became JPII in Oct 1978), Stefan Wyszynski in 1963 he leads the Communist catholic Poland, Aloysius Stepinac (helps against Political turmoel in Yugoslavia and Jozef Mindszenty helps against communism in Hungary in 1960)
The repeated background music is torture !
The problem with younger men as pope is that they last longer, for example John Paul 2 close to 25 years on the papacy the cardinals don't want such long tenure on the throne of peter.
The church need not be ahead of time. The church is to live in the present and deal with today's problems and save souls of today
The theme for the 1958 conclave that elected John XXIII could be called "the anyone but Cardinal Siri for pope." Cardinal Siri, I understand, was one of the great minds of the 12th century.
Cardinal Koenig came to regret his politicking for John Paul II. Not once but twice, John Paul ignored Koenig's recommendations for Koenig's successor in Vienna, one of whom had to be removed due to accusations of abuse. Koenig knew of John Paul due to his diplomatic work for the Church in eastern Europe. Koenig, a leader at Vatican II, didn't how conservative the Polish prelate was. Supposedly, Koenig apologized to progressive Catholics for managing John Paul's election as pope,
Too bad, Cardinal Montini wasn't elected; he would made a great pope.
I believe that Montini was not seriously considered in 1958 because he was not yet a cardinal. While being a Prince of the Church is not a requirement for selection as Pope, it has been a tradition for centuries. Of course, Montini was selected in 1963 after the death of John XXIII
The writer meant to refer, I think, to the heretic Cardinal Martini.
@@ransomcoates546 I meant Carlo Martini of Milan. He would have been better than Ratzinger, but again, anyone would have been a better pope than Ratzinger.
As for the 1958 conclave, Archbishop Montini of Milan got a few votes. The future Pope Paul VI was the right hand of Pius XIII, until Montini criticized the handling of the Vatican finances by the Pacelli nephews. Pius sent Montini to Milan without a red hat. John XXIII made Montini a cardinal at his first consistory. Near the end of his life, John XXIII said Montini would make a good pope. Mpntini wasn't a great thinker but was a good adminitrator
@@ConanTheLibrarian-n5q Cdnl Martini - Father of the St Gallen mafia.
Hahahaha, see the democracy of Catholic Church, can't stop laughing.
only if jp2 wasnt elected...😢
One of the rules of a Conclave is that only 4 scrutinies (Voting Sessions) are allowed in one day. The rules were broken for Bergoglio and was voted Pope on the 5th Voting session. A 5th is forbbiden.
The "rules" can be changed at any time by the Cardinals.
When a Conclave happens,it is Our Lord Jesus who chooses the Pope.
Rubbish. This has never been Catholic teaching. Popes have been elected by bribing the electors
It's clearly not God's decision.
God's permissive Will rather than active Will is not God's decision.
Bergoglio was the candidate of pre-Conclave electioneering during two Conclaves.
Which is strictly forbidden.
And yet "electioneering" for pope happens all day, every day, around the world between conclaves. Your accusation is meaningless.
@@markmh835 All day every day between conclaves, you say?
So much for the claptrap that papal conclaves have anything to do with the Divine. They clearly do not.
You, Displicable specimen. I hope you Eat your " WORDS ".!!!
If Siri had been elected in 1958 we would have had three decades of peace instead of the ever-accelerating decomposition of the Catholic Church
FIRST COMMENT!!!!
God does NOT choose the Pope; cardinals do. The Holy Spirit’s inspiration is present but not always accepted, as we see in the disastrous papacy of Francis.
You can't fight God's will eventhough a bad person may be chosen it's still God's will
😌 You poor deluded mouthpiece of Satan.
God bless Pope Francis, God's choice by God's Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank You Lord Jesus.
P.s.
Even the Son of God Himself was rejected by the know-it-alls of His day!
✝️💕💒😇
😌 You poor deluded mouthpiece of Satan.
God bless Pope Francis, God's choice by God's Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank You Lord Jesus.
P.s.
Even the Son of God Himself was rejected by the know-it-alls of His day!
✝️💕💒😇
😌 You poor deluded mouthpiece of Satan.
God bless Pope Francis, God's choice by God's Holy Spirit. Amen. Thank You Lord Jesus.
P.s.
Even the Son of God Himself was rejected by the know-it-alls of His day!
✝️💕💒😇
@@goretspubgGod's permissive will, not necessarily his positive will; the Cardinals do not give up their free will and become puppets of the Holy Spirit.
the next pope should be a younger man-what will our church with only old men`s?
Canon Law rules that a Pope cannot be chosen from a religious order. Oooopppps
No, it does not.
My priest told me Siri won three times.
Your priest is wrong. How would he know?
Catholicism is work salvation, please turn to Christ in faith as the Bible clearly says we are saved by grace which translates to CHARIS meaning "unmeritted favor/free gift." quite literally. There is a Reason why Paul says in Romans "for the wages of sin is death, but the FREE gift of God is eternal life through christ Jesus our lord." Again grace's literal translation in the Greek is "unmeritted favor/free gift." Salvation is completely free all you have to do is believe that what Jesus did for you 2000 years ago actually worked. He died as a substitute for sin on the cross for you and me because the penalty for sin is death, if the penalty has already been paid and "by grace you have saved through faith" then all you are doing is believing that his payment was for you, a.k.a excepting it and believing you have eternal life as a result of his finished work (and of course believing he rose from the dead as a dead savior can't save you.) The reason you cannot add a work to Christ's finished work is because as Paul makes clear in Romans 11:6 "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." You aren't under grace if you add something to the gospel because grace must be unmeritted for it to be attributed to you. Again, you are just trusting in what Christ already did for you, that's why in ephesians Paul says "after you believed, you were sealed with that holy spirit of promise, which is the GUARANTEE of our inherentance until the redemption of the purchased possession." Paul can't use the word guarantee here if salvation is partially based off of something you do, as obviously YOU can fail in your efforts meaning there is obviously no guarantee. But if it is entirely based off of what Christ did, then there is a guarantee.
Poor understanding of grace and salvation....
Non-Catholic Antipopes
What does that mean other than being nonsensical!
I am the famous Stephen the Narcissist, very intelligent atheist, from Pope Pius XII till now, all Pope are stupid.
A great mistake
The only "great mistake" I am aware of during this period is Pope John Paul II doing nothing about the clerical sexual abuse scandal and actively covering it up. That God that Pope Francis has been tackling this scandal head on.
Electing Ratzinger might also be considered a "great mistake" by many people. He did little to fix the sex abuse AND financial scandals in the Vatican. No wonder he resigned.
Boytiwa
Hahahah, Catholic Church is left behind 500 years, ahead of nothing.
Hahahah, Catholic Church is left behind 500 years, of course ahead of nothing.
Siri was the elected pope!
No, he was not. Wishful thinking and fantasy land.
@@markmh835 he was. No go and suck bergoglio 🤮