Cool! I cant wait for the next express to push my 1600 SF into T4. Shes sitting on 4m+ shards and I have 12000 Fusion Mats rn, hope with T3 Advanced Honing I will be able to get her to 1660+ quite fast
I run the same skill set-up as the one on the Soulfist Community Guide for the Force Orb build. CJ is not necessary once you are able to access Limit Break 2 with 300 Swift and Level 7 gems (or 350 Swift and Level 6 gems although you sacrifice some Crit here).
Have you tried swift EO on this raid? She's one of my alts who is most likely to get to brel, I don't really look forward to trying to figure out the hype 3 timing here 😅
Have not tried Swift EO yet. I think having to Prog Hype timings on top of learning the raid is a bit overkill so nowadays I stick to Spec EO / Robust for Prog. The raid does not have a lot of down-time so I feel like Swift EO is not as strong for Brel compared to Aegir/Echidna that have a lot of cutscenes/mechs.
@realmonstrata Yeah.. getting to 1680 expensive for an alt so can't really go Spec EO 😢. What would you say the damage diff is between Spec EO and Robust after shifting away from Swift EO?
@@AcedHero From my testing, Robust generally performed about 5-8% stronger than Spec EO in Trixion. I have yet to really test Limit Break 3, but now that we have access to 98 Enlightenment Points, I feel the gap will just get wider. Spec EO does not receive as big a buff from additional Enlightenment points compared to Robust. And part of that reason is that I don't think Smilegate intended for Spec EO to be a build anyways. It's why they keep nerfing it or buffing Swift EO and Robust.
Force Orb is the higher ceiling build compared to Energy Blast, but at the cost of less push-immunity. I like it more because I can always cast Orb, Lightning and Celestial Palm during Hype 0 to maintain Adrenaline. That way I don't always have to Flash Step x3 before entering Hype 3.
I honestly prefer Robust in general now over Swift EO because it's easier to play around. Swift EO you can get screwed over by the boss disappearing/doing random mech while you are in Hype 3. I also like the big numbers from Spirit Bomb lol. It is also the strongest Soulfist Build. I know the community guide says Swift is stronger, but I just disagree at this point.
Just the standard. Adren, Grudge, Cursed Doll, KBW, 5th is Mass Increase. I have a 10/6 stone so I go MI instead of SS or Precise, but both of those Engravings are solid choices as well. No Relic books yet, too expensive xP.
nah nothing will make me play this dogshit rs build ever again, it feels like it was made in 2007 by a 60 yo guy. Even if spec eo or swift does less dmg for now, id still choose them any day of the week over RS, hell id rather delete this class than play rs again, the concept of not being able to do anything outside of your hype window is just stupid no matter how i try to see it (50% cdr doesnt help at all)
I don't blame you. It took me a while to get used to the playstyle coming from Swift EO. I usually just collect Ethers, and still send 3-4 skills in Hype 0 to maintain Adrenaline. Overall, I still find the downtime less punishing than Swift EO where you're doing 20% of your overall DPS for 50 seconds.
@realmonstrata ye i agree about swift, that's why I am sticking to spec eo for now, but it seems smilegate hates spec eo with all of their heart, since they have been nerfing it with every single patch they have released so far, after tier 4 release
@ I think part of that is because Spec EO wasn't intended to become a build. It's a completely new playstyle for Soulfist. No other class really got an entirely new playstyle with different specs/skills/gems upon entering T4. Personally, I think once we get a few more points into Enlightenmen (like 102-106) Robust will be able to take Rebound Control and function more similarly to Spec EO in terms of cancelling Hype 3 early for partial refund. I've been testing Robust Spirit with Limit Break 3 in Trixion (requires 96 points) and you generally have about 3-5 seconds leftover after finishing your rotation now. Will need to do more testing as we upgrade Karma but I can see the playstyle converging with Spec EO in the future.
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Cool! I cant wait for the next express to push my 1600 SF into T4. Shes sitting on 4m+ shards and I have 12000 Fusion Mats rn, hope with T3 Advanced Honing I will be able to get her to 1660+ quite fast
Are you not running CJ in this build ? I would love to see your skill loadout, I'm probably pushing my Robust to 1670 soon
I run the same skill set-up as the one on the Soulfist Community Guide for the Force Orb build. CJ is not necessary once you are able to access Limit Break 2 with 300 Swift and Level 7 gems (or 350 Swift and Level 6 gems although you sacrifice some Crit here).
Have you tried swift EO on this raid? She's one of my alts who is most likely to get to brel, I don't really look forward to trying to figure out the hype 3 timing here 😅
Have not tried Swift EO yet. I think having to Prog Hype timings on top of learning the raid is a bit overkill so nowadays I stick to Spec EO / Robust for Prog. The raid does not have a lot of down-time so I feel like Swift EO is not as strong for Brel compared to Aegir/Echidna that have a lot of cutscenes/mechs.
@realmonstrata
Yeah.. getting to 1680 expensive for an alt so can't really go Spec EO 😢. What would you say the damage diff is between Spec EO and Robust after shifting away from Swift EO?
@@AcedHero From my testing, Robust generally performed about 5-8% stronger than Spec EO in Trixion. I have yet to really test Limit Break 3, but now that we have access to 98 Enlightenment Points, I feel the gap will just get wider. Spec EO does not receive as big a buff from additional Enlightenment points compared to Robust. And part of that reason is that I don't think Smilegate intended for Spec EO to be a build anyways. It's why they keep nerfing it or buffing Swift EO and Robust.
Why you use force orb and not energy blast? What is your ark passive status
Force Orb is the higher ceiling build compared to Energy Blast, but at the cost of less push-immunity. I like it more because I can always cast Orb, Lightning and Celestial Palm during Hype 0 to maintain Adrenaline. That way I don't always have to Flash Step x3 before entering Hype 3.
@ what runes do you use in your skils and witch grade?
Why u use V without atk buff?
An attack buff is automatically applied every time you cast Awakening on Robust Spirit. You get this from the 4th line (Limit Break).
You liked robust only on this run, or in general?
I honestly prefer Robust in general now over Swift EO because it's easier to play around. Swift EO you can get screwed over by the boss disappearing/doing random mech while you are in Hype 3. I also like the big numbers from Spirit Bomb lol. It is also the strongest Soulfist Build. I know the community guide says Swift is stronger, but I just disagree at this point.
what engraving were u running?
Just the standard. Adren, Grudge, Cursed Doll, KBW, 5th is Mass Increase. I have a 10/6 stone so I go MI instead of SS or Precise, but both of those Engravings are solid choices as well. No Relic books yet, too expensive xP.
nah nothing will make me play this dogshit rs build ever again, it feels like it was made in 2007 by a 60 yo guy. Even if spec eo or swift does less dmg for now, id still choose them any day of the week over RS, hell id rather delete this class than play rs again, the concept of not being able to do anything outside of your hype window is just stupid no matter how i try to see it (50% cdr doesnt help at all)
I don't blame you. It took me a while to get used to the playstyle coming from Swift EO. I usually just collect Ethers, and still send 3-4 skills in Hype 0 to maintain Adrenaline. Overall, I still find the downtime less punishing than Swift EO where you're doing 20% of your overall DPS for 50 seconds.
@realmonstrata ye i agree about swift, that's why I am sticking to spec eo for now, but it seems smilegate hates spec eo with all of their heart, since they have been nerfing it with every single patch they have released so far, after tier 4 release
@ I think part of that is because Spec EO wasn't intended to become a build. It's a completely new playstyle for Soulfist. No other class really got an entirely new playstyle with different specs/skills/gems upon entering T4. Personally, I think once we get a few more points into Enlightenmen (like 102-106) Robust will be able to take Rebound Control and function more similarly to Spec EO in terms of cancelling Hype 3 early for partial refund. I've been testing Robust Spirit with Limit Break 3 in Trixion (requires 96 points) and you generally have about 3-5 seconds leftover after finishing your rotation now. Will need to do more testing as we upgrade Karma but I can see the playstyle converging with Spec EO in the future.
Honestly having a few seconds of downtime sound better than 50secs eating shit
@ nah i have a severe case of adhd i cannot bear doing nothing for 10 seconds