Yeah never know when we'll be in the situation of needing to make a dam. It's highly unlikely, but never know and also entertaining all the same as other content on the channel.
Yeah, from cannon to Johnson... farmer tips... awesome journey! I was a little bit torn at 23rd minute... on one side I wanted to see the cylinders of that dozer, but then I was "maybe not" John already has a lot of work.
The filming & editing style of this video series and several more of John's has the look and feel asif it should be narrated by Mike Rowe, and I mean that as a compliment.
Jon, here's some food for thought: Insurance. My original retirement plan, was to be a small-time excavator. So, several years before retirement I started gathering up all the equipment I would need: Dozer, backhoe, skid steer, trailers, dump trucks, etc. As farm equipment my insurance costs was almost nothing. For example: full coverage insurance on one of the dump trucks is $285 as a farm truck vs $3,000 a year as an excavation company truck. Here's my point: if you're working for hire - you're an excavating company and you need that kind of insurance. Damage something - you're on your own, because your insurance company will not cover the claim. IE: a $40,000 fiber optic line. True story: A neighbor asked me to bury a horse for them. They marked the spot. Here in Ohio I called the "811" Locate people to come out and check the spot. The home owner said, "There's nothing there. Go ahead and dig." I said, "No. When it's checked, I'll dig. They know it's a grave and I put a rush on it." Well, there's what the 811 Folks found: A 2 inch medium pressure natural gas line, 4 - foot deep, in the exact spot, they wanted me to dig the grave. So, ALWAYS have your dig sites checked for utilities. If you don't and you damage it: you will be responsible to pay for the cost of repairs. Lee
You're responsible for the Repair cost if you don't call for a Utility Locate first...assuming you survive that is... Hit that gas line or a High-Voltage feeder line for a Transformer and you might not be paying anything because you're too busy introducing yourself to Saint Peter at the Pearly Gates and explaining just what you were thinking with that truly Bone-Headed move of yours... And there is also the fact that in many (if not all) Jurisdictions in Canada and the USA (it most definitely is in Ontario), it is LAW that you call before you dig... So if you don't call and hit something when you dig, not only do you pay for the repairs, but you might also have a rather nasty Ticket to pay too... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
Soooo in other words, you skipped probably 7/8ths of the video! 🤨😂 But hey, to each his own, and it is still watch time and ad revenue for Jon, so crack on I say!
I also fast forward through a bunch of the machine work. It is fun to see what his project is and if there is anything unique about it, but I have operated machines enough and watched them enough that it is kind of boring to watch all of it. It is still good that he includes it as I can just skip around and watch as much or little of it as I want. It is far better than what is on TV because we get a realistic and detailed view of what he is doing instead of some show that focuses on drama. The repairs are interesting and it is cool to see how much he does on his own.
I remember helping my grandfather haul dirt when I was a kid. He had a single axle dump truck a little similar to yours. Difference was you had to hold the PTO handle while pulling back on the dump handle to dump the bed. It was a good bit of work, but I remember getting a decent work out as a kid when I worked with him 😂. Also learned how to run backhoes and other equipment.
Just a suggestion, anytime you are loadinga truck like that and you have a nice pile or row of material. Try to get the machine on top of it and load from there. You will be suprised how much faster and more efficient it is than loading from the ground. Ideally tracks even with the bed, but honestly even a few feet of elevation makes a difference. Hope this can help you out, nice job .
Yup! If you can't climb on top of the pile, then dig a 2-3 foot deep revetment (sloped trench/pit) beside the excavator for the truck to back down into and use the 'dozer to periodically shove more material up next to the excavator to load...the revetment will lower the truck bed to make loading easier...
Hmmm. I guess I learned something today. I've watched videos of other, more experienced operators doing that. I figured they were just stroking their ego. Sort of a "look at me, I'm king of the hill!" Thanks for the insight. 👍
Personally the greatest youtube channel I've found. Love commentary love the learning along the way love the accumulated knowledge. Fare better than any tv show ever produced thank you .
You are correct that mud is bad when building a pond, but so is dust. Dust will not compact. You need to save some of the top soil to place on the top and back slope of the dam.
Great video dad. The producer is a nice addition. Remember that the audience came when you worked alone. So i'd like it to seem like you're working alone. Even if someone else is filming. Emulate the old style.
Loving how we got to enjoy watching all 3 of these machines being repaired back into working action over the last few years, and now we get to see all 3 team up together on this project! Curious and hoping that we get to see more of those "ruins" over next to the pond - original farm house and barn?
Hi Jon great video as usual, tip for excavator when loading a windrow of material get up on top with your excavator go along the windrow ,gives you extra height to get into the truck and keeps a big pile of dirt in front to get full buckets Cheers from Aus
I just bought an 79’ D3 yesterday, and I’m so glad I found your channel! Thanks to your videos, I was able to confidently give a it a thorough inspection and gave it some over due maintenance. It took away the feeling of “I think this is that” and saved me a couple of hours of pretending to be a mechanic. Click 😂
Thanks Jon…excellent videography…appreciate all the camera angles. I know it adds to time spent on working but it makes the video much more interesting. Loved the lost Go-Pro saga. 😊
You have an amazing ability to keep a positive attitude, or you’re brilliant at editing out your darkest moments of frustration. Also, interesting that as you’re dumping the load where you talk about the GoPro camera, there’s a Tesla Model Y in the background. Don’t imagine there’re many farmers driving those around. 😊 Overall, among the best RUclips channels!
Yep... the fun is endless - all provided by Jon... and a couple of jumpers! Just as well no seals were busted! The ongoing saga is much anticipated, thanks!
If you have further problems with the pump, maybe you should take it off and send it to Area Diesel service, I know they have rescued many a pump for Matt and others.
Anything your family can do, you can do better, when it comes to jumping off rock faces! Great video and a fascinating project to boot. Not so many pond builds on farms in the UK.
I was just getting ready to make a post saying "The stars and planets must be aligned" because didn't have to fix anything this week, and then you had to go and break out the fuel filter! LOL Nice Job!
when you load something with excavator its a good idea to stack it one scoup and drive on top of it - then you will load from highier place and it will be easier
Tanks will rust even though the fuel is an oil. It can draw moisture and rust. I have a CAT D5C with this problem and I drained the tank, and cleaned it out, changed all of the filters (after blowing all of the fuel back into the tank). I scrubbed out as much of the rust/crud as I could. Then keeping the tank full or at least more than half full helps prevent the reoccurring problem. Thanks again for your videos.
Great footage of the bulldozer. Such an amazing little machine. Changed the world. Same goes for the excavator, of course. _Mike Mulligan's Steam Shovel_. But my favorite was always _Katy and the Big Snow_.
The problem restarting was air in the system but inside the injector lines. That is best done by two people (or one with a good mirror) so you can actually look at each line as you bleed them. First bleed one at a time to the injector pump, then bleed one at a time to the injectors; the idea is to observe the bubbles coming out at each point. The bleeder pump works best when dealing with one line at a time. Depending on the system design you can use compressed air to bleed up to the pump, pressurize the fuel tank to about 5-7psi and just crack the lines at the pump. That’s how bled equipment in the SRMY for over 20 years, and it never failed.
awesome series.. almost have the full Tonka set ... just need the cement truck I think. I had ones you could sit on when I was little . not the full set though.. of course that was 40 years ago.
It may be different where you live but up here in Ontario Canada it is against the law to bury topsoil... Simply put when you build a house garage etc. the topsoil must be stripped off & piled away from the structure....Then some kind of gravel/sand has to be trucked in for foundation work etc. .... You can use it as a topsoil later around the house etc as long as it is not buried ... Good job John luv all your videos !!
Yeah, I prefer a higher dirt to root/stick ratio in my topsoil. lol.... Just kidding, I know you have to take what you can get sometimes. Good luck and thanks for all the videos man!
Mate I love your videos, you are a true craftsman. It would be good to see you make a rotary trommel to separate the roots from soil; it would also screen the topsoil. Cheers from Oz!!
Make a fuel polishing system with a filter and a reversible pump. The inlet and outlet hoses go down into the fuel tank and recirculate the fuel. Move the hoses around with the pump on to stir up the sediment. You can buy a fuel polishing system but making your own will cost less.
I love everything about your videos and always get excited when you post a new one. The amount of work and dedication you have for everything you do is astounding and it makes you a superb role model. For this project, have you considered using a pond liner or geobarrier of sorts instead of relying on the clay to hold the water? It might add to the cost and effort but if there's too much rock and gravel, you might not have a choice. You can also make a soil cement but this can also add a bit of cost since you need the cement.
You’re doing a great job. Love seeing you do this with the machines you have. You don’t need anything bigger than what you have. Keep the great content coming
When I crack injectors to bleeding air, I always do one at a time. It looked like there was a ton of air in there when you opened the lines at the pump. Hopefully the fueling issues are over for you, but you might consider a lift pump situation to help shove fuel into the pump.
For work you did I hope the equipment will himself.your area is very dried but good time built pond.i hope lot learn the way you teach what going on .thanks video.calgary alberta.
When loading out a quantity of material like that topsoil, it can be helpful to sit the machine on top of the material and load everything around you. Then load only what’s left from ground level. Makes it much easier and less is spilled if loading into a high sided truck. Great content as always!
By the way once got it running try breaking 1 line at a time loose to blead last of air out works great also can tell you if have issue with air entering your system .that is what ive found to work for me anyway sorry for so many messages wish you all the luck ,your more than able .
Love all your content. Watching is always a learning experience. Had a thought about all your rusty fuel tank problems. Have you considered a settling bowl on the fuel line directly after the tank like the old antique tractors. I used to have an 8n that was pretty rusty, but the bowl seemed to catch most of it.
Here as a couch potato, no farm, no truck no excavator, no bulldozer.. not even the stamina to get the remote. But boy do I love these videos
Yeah never know when we'll be in the situation of needing to make a dam. It's highly unlikely, but never know and also entertaining all the same as other content on the channel.
I've never had somebody enjoy a good dump before. Also, mention we We Are building the dam. Is that me ,myself and I
Same here 🤣😂🤣
Same case here😁😁😁😁😁
Jhon put a air operated tailgate makes things a lot easier especially if you are spreading a whole parking lot or a full road
Came for the cannon casting, stayed for the awesome DIY projects. :)
That’s when I found his channel too, during the “cast a deck gun challenge”! He was the underdog and I think he did better than the rest of them!
Came here for the making of the copper rose. Glad I discovered one of the best channels on RUclips
same for me, started here when cannon casting and weekly failures of doing so were a thing, so i'm still here for heavy machinery ^^
Yeah, from cannon to Johnson... farmer tips... awesome journey! I was a little bit torn at 23rd minute... on one side I wanted to see the cylinders of that dozer, but then I was "maybe not" John already has a lot of work.
Comment for the algorithm to help the channel 👍.
Seconded!
Comment for the almighty algorithm.
Amen.
You mean YT runs an algorithm??????????
A new tank is a bit expensive but time saved is money earned in terms of projects like this one. 🙂
The filming & editing style of this video series and several more of John's has the look and feel asif it should be narrated by Mike Rowe, and I mean that as a compliment.
Old dump truck putting in some hard work And taking it like a Champ 💪nice Work Jon @FarmCraft101
Jon, here's some food for thought: Insurance. My original retirement plan, was to be a small-time excavator. So, several years before retirement I started gathering up all the equipment I would need: Dozer, backhoe, skid steer, trailers, dump trucks, etc. As farm equipment my insurance costs was almost nothing. For example: full coverage insurance on one of the dump trucks is $285 as a farm truck vs $3,000 a year as an excavation company truck. Here's my point: if you're working for hire - you're an excavating company and you need that kind of insurance. Damage something - you're on your own, because your insurance company will not cover the claim. IE: a $40,000 fiber optic line. True story: A neighbor asked me to bury a horse for them. They marked the spot. Here in Ohio I called the "811" Locate people to come out and check the spot. The home owner said, "There's nothing there. Go ahead and dig." I said, "No. When it's checked, I'll dig. They know it's a grave and I put a rush on it." Well, there's what the 811 Folks found: A 2 inch medium pressure natural gas line, 4 - foot deep, in the exact spot, they wanted me to dig the grave. So, ALWAYS have your dig sites checked for utilities. If you don't and you damage it: you will be responsible to pay for the cost of repairs. Lee
Sounds like real good advice Lee. It's what no one wants to hear but it is still good advice.
That's why we "call before we dig" so that doesn't happen. Call all utilities, and locate the county tax-lot maps to find easements.
And now the horses ghost STILL roams the property till this day!
Woooooooooo
Oh?.. not that kind of story.
Sorry.
You're responsible for the Repair cost if you don't call for a Utility Locate first...assuming you survive that is...
Hit that gas line or a High-Voltage feeder line for a Transformer and you might not be paying anything because you're too busy introducing yourself to Saint Peter at the Pearly Gates and explaining just what you were thinking with that truly Bone-Headed move of yours...
And there is also the fact that in many (if not all) Jurisdictions in Canada and the USA (it most definitely is in Ontario), it is LAW that you call before you dig...
So if you don't call and hit something when you dig, not only do you pay for the repairs, but you might also have a rather nasty Ticket to pay too...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
I'm here for the machine repairs. Honestly, I'm fast forwarding through the dirt moving parts.
Soooo in other words, you skipped probably 7/8ths of the video! 🤨😂 But hey, to each his own, and it is still watch time and ad revenue for Jon, so crack on I say!
Everyone gets a say! Even if it's petty!
@@Ok-Mardy you're absolutely right. 💯
I also fast forward through a bunch of the machine work. It is fun to see what his project is and if there is anything unique about it, but I have operated machines enough and watched them enough that it is kind of boring to watch all of it. It is still good that he includes it as I can just skip around and watch as much or little of it as I want. It is far better than what is on TV because we get a realistic and detailed view of what he is doing instead of some show that focuses on drama. The repairs are interesting and it is cool to see how much he does on his own.
I remember helping my grandfather haul dirt when I was a kid. He had a single axle dump truck a little similar to yours. Difference was you had to hold the PTO handle while pulling back on the dump handle to dump the bed. It was a good bit of work, but I remember getting a decent work out as a kid when I worked with him 😂. Also learned how to run backhoes and other equipment.
An education for a lifetime. Even if you don't go into that line of work, there's information and experience that can be used for decades afterwards.
Just a suggestion, anytime you are loadinga truck like that and you have a nice pile or row of material. Try to get the machine on top of it and load from there. You will be suprised how much faster and more efficient it is than loading from the ground. Ideally tracks even with the bed, but honestly even a few feet of elevation makes a difference. Hope this can help you out, nice job .
Yup! If you can't climb on top of the pile, then dig a 2-3 foot deep revetment (sloped trench/pit) beside the excavator for the truck to back down into and use the 'dozer to periodically shove more material up next to the excavator to load...the revetment will lower the truck bed to make loading easier...
Hmmm. I guess I learned something today. I've watched videos of other, more experienced operators doing that. I figured they were just stroking their ego. Sort of a "look at me, I'm king of the hill!"
Thanks for the insight. 👍
Personally the greatest youtube channel I've found. Love commentary love the learning along the way love the accumulated knowledge. Fare better than any tv show ever produced thank you .
You are correct that mud is bad when building a pond, but so is dust. Dust will not compact. You need to save some of the top soil to place on the top and back slope of the dam.
Absolutely love your spirit and genuine warm personality. I really enjoy your hard work creating content for your channel.Cheers my friend.👍🍻🍻
You got this. Just keep on pushing. Glad you got the Dozer going again with some patience. LOL
Good job on getting the farm pond 👍
I'd love to know more about you that's only if you don't mind leaving me a reply
Great video dad. The producer is a nice addition. Remember that the audience came when you worked alone. So i'd like it to seem like you're working alone. Even if someone else is filming. Emulate the old style.
I live in a different work world but love your videos for their persistence and common sense. Thank you for all the great wisdom!
Have to say, I like reading the comments almost as much as the video ! Can learn as much or more sometimes
Always a great day when I get to watch your videos. Thank you for your hard work.
Loving how we got to enjoy watching all 3 of these machines being repaired back into working action over the last few years, and now we get to see all 3 team up together on this project! Curious and hoping that we get to see more of those "ruins" over next to the pond - original farm house and barn?
So much solid narrative. Beautiful dance between intention and flow.
Hi Jon great video as usual, tip for excavator when loading a windrow of material get up on top with your excavator go along the windrow ,gives you extra height to get into the truck and keeps a big pile of dirt in front to get full buckets
Cheers from Aus
Best Dam video I’ve watched
That dozer fills me with hope of an upcoming engine rebuild video 😉
Yes, that blue smoke is a bit ominous.
Man I love your videos! I look forward to them every week 👍💪
Keep up the good good work my man!
I just bought an 79’ D3 yesterday, and I’m so glad I found your channel! Thanks to your videos, I was able to confidently give a it a thorough inspection and gave it some over due maintenance. It took away the feeling of “I think this is that” and saved me a couple of hours of pretending to be a mechanic. Click 😂
Thanks Jon…excellent videography…appreciate all the camera angles. I know it adds to time spent on working but it makes the video much more interesting. Loved the lost Go-Pro saga. 😊
Great video as always Jon Appreciate the Entertainment nice work coming along well @FarmCraft101
You have an amazing ability to keep a positive attitude, or you’re brilliant at editing out your darkest moments of frustration. Also, interesting that as you’re dumping the load where you talk about the GoPro camera, there’s a Tesla Model Y in the background. Don’t imagine there’re many farmers driving those around. 😊 Overall, among the best RUclips channels!
Love seeing that little D3 doing some work!
Make sure you get a good "seal" on that dam.
The home and the 3 bay barn/garage on that property look beautiful
Looks like the in line filter is helping a ton to keep the fuel clean and it is running like a champ Jon @FarmCraft101
Looks like a fun project if the equipment runs!
Great video John, you should look into getting a flat bottom ditching bucket, handy for clearing and tiding up after the digging bucket
I thought the same thing after the third scoop.
Dam good video!😅
25:40
Graceful AF
Like a swan
Terrific entertainment and talks through the video which is so much better.
Yep... the fun is endless - all provided by Jon... and a couple of jumpers! Just as well no seals were busted!
The ongoing saga is much anticipated, thanks!
As always a well thought out program of work
Nice job on the pond and the repair of the dozer😊
New toy idea! Bucket loader for Christmas!!
Same thing i thought, he needs a loader. Or even a 3 foot bucket is faster..
Love how you explain things that you are doing
For a small machine, you're doing well!
Watching this video really give more wisdom,keep the good work going 👍
I'd love to know more about you that's only if you don't mind leaving me a reply
Jon, your videos are always interesting, but seeing the construction of a dam, even a small one like this, that's just an extra layer of fascinating!!
Been looking forward to watching this next video 👍
If you have further problems with the pump, maybe you should take it off and send it to Area Diesel service, I know they have rescued many a pump for Matt and others.
Loved the dirt cam. Might use it as an idea for my burial, whenever that may be!
Anything your family can do, you can do better, when it comes to jumping off rock faces! Great video and a fascinating project to boot. Not so many pond builds on farms in the UK.
Fingers crossed the dozer is running good now!
BIG JOB. Well done so far.
Great videos John. Looking forward to part 3.
Ingenious tripod weight!
No, no, no. You didn't forget it. You made a conscious decision to take your viewers on the same ride all of the top soil takes. Adventurous!
Rocks in the dam way 🙄
Lookin good and yeah, a lot of work.
A great video to start the day with.
Stay safe and we'll see you next time.
To get better traction you can weld on some steel plate pieces every 5th plate or similar. 5 mm thick, 10-15 mm high would work nicely
😮 dam it, on one end jump into it on the other, fish it between ends.
I was just getting ready to make a post saying "The stars and planets must be aligned" because didn't have to fix anything this week, and then you had to go and break out the fuel filter! LOL Nice Job!
A Merc and a Tesla in the driveway. Thinking these are 'gentleman farmers' more than a true farmer like John!
Love that shift knob. That soil is 2200 lb/cy? 10 cy box. Shouldn't even be a strain for that truck.
That was a nice dump.
That's a fast dozer 😮 keep up the good work!!
when you load something with excavator its a good idea to stack it one scoup and drive on top of it - then you will load from highier place and it will be easier
Nice drone views.
I always enjoy your videos.... Learn something new every time!
Tanks will rust even though the fuel is an oil. It can draw moisture and rust. I have a CAT D5C with this problem and I drained the tank, and cleaned it out, changed all of the filters (after blowing all of the fuel back into the tank). I scrubbed out as much of the rust/crud as I could.
Then keeping the tank full or at least more than half full helps prevent the reoccurring problem.
Thanks again for your videos.
Great footage of the bulldozer. Such an amazing little machine. Changed the world. Same goes for the excavator, of course. _Mike Mulligan's Steam Shovel_. But my favorite was always _Katy and the Big Snow_.
The problem restarting was air in the system but inside the injector lines. That is best done by two people (or one with a good mirror) so you can actually look at each line as you bleed them. First bleed one at a time to the injector pump, then bleed one at a time to the injectors; the idea is to observe the bubbles coming out at each point. The bleeder pump works best when dealing with one line at a time. Depending on the system design you can use compressed air to bleed up to the pump, pressurize the fuel tank to about 5-7psi and just crack the lines at the pump. That’s how bled equipment in the SRMY for over 20 years, and it never failed.
awesome series.. almost have the full Tonka set ... just need the cement truck I think. I had ones you could sit on when I was little . not the full set though.. of course that was 40 years ago.
It may be different where you live but up here in Ontario Canada it is against the law to bury topsoil... Simply put when you build a house garage etc. the topsoil must be stripped off & piled away from the structure....Then some kind of gravel/sand has to be trucked in for foundation work etc. .... You can use it as a topsoil later around the house etc as long as it is not buried ... Good job John luv all your videos !!
Hello John!
Kinda like watching you use a tea spoon to fill a dump truck
Yeah, I prefer a higher dirt to root/stick ratio in my topsoil. lol.... Just kidding, I know you have to take what you can get sometimes. Good luck and thanks for all the videos man!
Mate I love your videos, you are a true craftsman. It would be good to see you make a rotary trommel to separate the roots from soil; it would also screen the topsoil.
Cheers from Oz!!
Dam fine videos!
Make a fuel polishing system with a filter
and a reversible pump. The inlet and outlet
hoses go down into the fuel tank and recirculate the fuel. Move the hoses around with the pump on to stir up the sediment.
You can buy a fuel polishing system but making your own will cost less.
I like how Jon's only hobby outside of machinery things is jumping off of really high places.
Beats a wheelbarrow and a spade 👍
It's coming along nicely! Of course there are always hidden complications lurking around every corner. Why cant a project just be easy for once? 😅
5:50 that structure looks like it needs exploring John!!
😊 35:52 thats a bunch of Dan work.
Looks like you are making progress on your dam build
Thanks for the keyway picture/ explanation. Now I get it.
I always enjoy your videos I learn how to attack repairs with out loosening track of the bigger picture
To be honest,this videos are really helping and it gives me more wisdom
They should keep the good work going 💪
I'd love to know more about you that's only if you don't mind leaving me a reply
I love your contents.
I love everything about your videos and always get excited when you post a new one. The amount of work and dedication you have for everything you do is astounding and it makes you a superb role model.
For this project, have you considered using a pond liner or geobarrier of sorts instead of relying on the clay to hold the water? It might add to the cost and effort but if there's too much rock and gravel, you might not have a choice. You can also make a soil cement but this can also add a bit of cost since you need the cement.
You’re doing a great job. Love seeing you do this with the machines you have. You don’t need anything bigger than what you have. Keep the great content coming
Big job, for sure. Looks like you got the fuel issue resolved on the dozer.
Going to be interesting to see what you use for a compactor. New piece of equipment?
When I crack injectors to bleeding air, I always do one at a time. It looked like there was a ton of air in there when you opened the lines at the pump. Hopefully the fueling issues are over for you, but you might consider a lift pump situation to help shove fuel into the pump.
Expert mechanical diagnosing and fixing!
For work you did I hope the equipment will himself.your area is very dried but good time built pond.i hope lot learn the way you teach what going on .thanks video.calgary alberta.
Good morning from Southeast South Dakota
When loading out a quantity of material like that topsoil, it can be helpful to sit the machine on top of the material and load everything around you. Then load only what’s left from ground level.
Makes it much easier and less is spilled if loading into a high sided truck.
Great content as always!
11:59 RIP 😢
“Buried Alive” cam was pretty impressive. Lol
Your rock pit is just about how my rocky my soil is all over and with huuuuuge rocks 😭
good job on getting the farm pond preped.
By the way once got it running try breaking 1 line at a time loose to blead last of air out works great also can tell you if have issue with air entering your system .that is what ive found to work for me anyway sorry for so many messages wish you all the luck ,your more than able .
Love all your content. Watching is always a learning experience. Had a thought about all your rusty fuel tank problems. Have you considered a settling bowl on the fuel line directly after the tank like the old antique tractors. I used to have an 8n that was pretty rusty, but the bowl seemed to catch most of it.