Are The Beatles Avant-Garde?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 апр 2019
  • In this episode of 'Listening in', I explore how The Beatles were inspired by Avant-Garde contemporary music, and, in particular, the work of Karlheinz Stockhausen. I look at how The Beatles used the techniques that had been developed by the Avant-Garde to create completely new sounds in their music and to produce songs the likes of which had never been heard before in the mainstream.
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    FURTHER WATCHING
    Karlheinz Stockhausen : Momente: • Karlheinz Stockhausen ...
    Paul McCartney Breaks Down His Most Iconic Songs | GQ: • Paul McCartney Breaks ...
    FURTHER READING/RESEARCH
    Crackle goes pop: how Stockhausen seduced the Beatles - www.theguardian.com/music/201...
    Excellent website about all The Beatles' albums and songs: www.beatlesbible.com/
    MUSIC
    Thomas Adès: In Seven Days - • Thomas Adès: In Seven ...
    Karlheinz Stockhausen: Gruppen - • Video
    Karlheinz Stockhausen: Studie II - • Stockhausen Studie II
    Karlheinz Stockhausen: Gesang der Jünglinge - • Gesang Der Junglinge
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Комментарии • 70

  • @TheCDMole
    @TheCDMole 5 лет назад +109

    I genuinely think you’re the best music video essayist on RUclips. Really hope your work reaches the audience it deserves!!

    • @diegolopezronda
      @diegolopezronda 2 года назад

      I like it as well, it would be cool that the channel open its horizons to music beyond the Anglo Saxon / classical music. Everyone have talked about the Beatles for long time, and there are a lot more outside that deserves to be seen.

    • @darrenknowles842
      @darrenknowles842 Год назад

      I concur

  • @laurainthecavewithdiamond3285
    @laurainthecavewithdiamond3285 4 года назад +35

    As soon as I heard that avant garde piece I thought about the similar piece in A Day In The Life

  • @knasigboll
    @knasigboll 5 лет назад +54

    You convinced me to take the journey through The Beatles discography

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  5 лет назад +11

      Excellent. I hope you enjoy it!

    • @corneliusmaze-eye2459
      @corneliusmaze-eye2459 2 года назад +4

      So how was the journey through the Beatles music?

    • @xstatic-ow5mz
      @xstatic-ow5mz 2 месяца назад

      @@corneliusmaze-eye2459 they're overrated

  • @InventorZahran
    @InventorZahran 4 года назад +76

    I never realized that the Beatles were so much more than 'just another rock band'!

    • @rubywine9487
      @rubywine9487 3 года назад +12

      Yep. Their music was diverse and experimental. In a few short years they created a renaissance in pop music. They completely transformed it. That's why they've been so influential.

    • @MICKEYISLOWD
      @MICKEYISLOWD 3 года назад +12

      They wrote 300 songs in about 8 yrs. Their rate of development was shocking. They took old forms and made new out of them whilst also creating sounds that nobody had ever heard before. Their compositions were also stunning in beauty and all this with barely any music education. What they achieved will probably never be beaten which is why they are globally considered one of the most important composers of the 20th century. To put it bluntly they were far and far away more than just another 60s pop group.

    • @corneliusmaze-eye2459
      @corneliusmaze-eye2459 2 года назад +1

      @@MICKEYISLOWD And on top of that, the songs were beautiful with lyrics so meaningful - and sometimes nonsensical - that they still invoke emotion and imagination to this day.

    • @morganfisherart
      @morganfisherart 2 года назад +3

      @InventorZahran - Your comment reminds me that when I was in school in the mid-60s, much of the daily chitchat was on the theme of "Who do you like best: Beatles or Stones?" In a way they were equally famous for a while, but come on - musically it's No Contest!!!

  • @francissreckofabian01
    @francissreckofabian01 2 года назад +26

    The Beatles and Frank Zappa certainly introduce the avant-garde to modern popular music. Much to music's benefit.

    • @dimitryyakovich9488
      @dimitryyakovich9488 2 года назад +7

      And the Beach Boys

    • @Questmetalband
      @Questmetalband Год назад +3

      don't forget early Pink Floyd!

    • @xstatic-ow5mz
      @xstatic-ow5mz 2 месяца назад

      Don't forget John Lennon plagiarized Frank Zappa's song King Kong as his own and relabeled it "Jamrag"

  • @hugobradytenor
    @hugobradytenor 3 года назад +14

    This channel is brilliant. Well considered language, nuanced rather than sweeping statements, actual detail. Thank you so much for this - don't stop!

  • @alfredoluna6309
    @alfredoluna6309 4 года назад +10

    A friend sent me the Kandinsky video and I haven’t been able to stop seeing your videos. The completeness of your explanations, the themes, even your tone, every single aspect of your videos draws me to want more and more. I’ll be sure to keep sharing your videos, you deserve a very broad audience.

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  4 года назад +3

      Thank you much Alfredo - I really appreciate you sharing my videos! I'm so pleased that you're enjoying them. For the time being, I'm not bothered that I don't have a huge audience. I'm just appreciating the really kind comments (like this one) - that's what's keeping me going. Lots more to come.

  • @racunars
    @racunars 3 года назад +8

    Definitely the best video of The Beatles music artistic review I’ve ever seen. You are a master. Congrats 👏👏

  • @georgelee43211
    @georgelee43211 4 года назад +9

    i love sound collages i've made a few like ''revolution 9''with my primative home equipment like on my old reel to reel machines.

  • @pokeybear3904
    @pokeybear3904 4 года назад +4

    this is one of the best video essays ive ever seen

  • @shikhindahikar8488
    @shikhindahikar8488 3 года назад +7

    please do more of this. Maybe something like Rick Beato's "What makes this song great". Great content!

  • @NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets
    @NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets 3 года назад

    Man this channel is amazing, the videos are so well put together, I hope it gets more popular

  • @ldmun
    @ldmun 4 года назад +2

    I absolutely loved this video and this channel, you deserve a lot more subscribers with your great content!

  • @emilioguzmanalvarez420
    @emilioguzmanalvarez420 4 года назад +5

    Blownnn away once again. There are no words to describe your videos. Fascinating analisis!

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  4 года назад

      Thank you! I'm really glad you're enjoying my videos.

  • @YazoDu04
    @YazoDu04 4 года назад +5

    Oaah such an amazing video, thanks a lot !! I will spread the good word !!

  • @waterglas21
    @waterglas21 3 года назад

    Great video! It deserves much more views. I hope you grow up as a channel.

  • @sebastianperez5319
    @sebastianperez5319 5 лет назад +2

    I'm blown away. It's just amazing and deeply inspiring. Thank you.

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  5 лет назад

      I know - their songs are overwhelming sometimes. I was so inspired when researching this essay. I'm really glad you enjoyed it.

  • @hotrodjones74
    @hotrodjones74 4 года назад +21

    This explains why later Beatles music feels like some kind of acid trip...

    • @hickorymccay2994
      @hickorymccay2994 3 года назад +5

      Well, a simpler explanation is that they were tripping balls.

    • @satinbarbi
      @satinbarbi 3 года назад

      @@hickorymccay2994 I would go so far as to say that if they never did acid they would be remembered kind of how Herman's Hermits are remembered. As just another 60's pop group of no great importance. LSD is one substance I have no regrets at all about. I loved every trip I took.

    • @Angel.Cielito
      @Angel.Cielito 4 месяца назад

      They'd still be remembered for Beatlemania if not for lsd​@@satinbarbi

  • @hs9389
    @hs9389 2 года назад

    this is surprisingly helpful for my a level revision. would love to see more from this !

    • @morganfisherart
      @morganfisherart 2 года назад

      Gosh - do they still call them A levels? I thought the name had changed long ago (did mine in '68 when all this groovy music was happening). Good luck with yours!

  • @jackstrawful
    @jackstrawful Год назад +1

    I've never really known what the term avant-garde even means (beyond a vague sense of it being 'out-there', cutting edge, and/or strange), but it seems I've always been a fan - as A Day in the Life is also my favorite Beatles song, Revolver is my favorite Beatles album (with Tomorrow Never Knows my favorite song on the album), and Revolution 9 is my favorite part of the White Album. You managed to touch on all of the highlights of my lifelong Beatles fandom in 11 minutes.

  • @tytys01
    @tytys01 4 года назад +3

    wonderful video! Thank you for sharing! It is excellent! :D

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  4 года назад

      My pleasure! Thank you for watching.

  • @Juan-wo7zu
    @Juan-wo7zu Год назад

    This is a wonderful deep dive

  • @coders22
    @coders22 3 года назад +1

    This video should have more attention.

  • @udomatthiasdrums5322
    @udomatthiasdrums5322 2 года назад +1

    love it!!

  • @Bishooni
    @Bishooni 4 года назад +13

    Your channel has stellar content ! I hope it will be a brief matter of time before you reach 100k+ subs, and you will have deserved it. Keep it up!

    • @ListeningIn
      @ListeningIn  4 года назад

      Thank you so much Mehdi! I will definitely keep it going!

  • @vicenteortegarubilar9418
    @vicenteortegarubilar9418 3 года назад +2

    I would advice listening to other bands from the same era to understand how the influences from different sources created this artístic environment. I would recommend The Beach Boys, The Byrds, The Zombies, the Hollies, the Mamas and the Papas and the albums Present tense by Sagittarius and Begin by Millenium.

  • @zaftra
    @zaftra 3 года назад +5

    Odd how he choses mainly John song when even John and George Martin acknowledge it was Paul that was most into this stuff.

    • @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
      @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 3 года назад

      He mentioned Paul McCartney's Eleanor Rigby and the orchestral crescendo from A Day in the Life being Paul's idea. Actually, he doesn't mention George Harrison at all.

    • @kevinb7789
      @kevinb7789 3 года назад +1

      @@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 George wasn't into avant garde music, he called it "avant garde a clue"

    • @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
      @luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 3 года назад

      @@kevinb7789 Yeah, I don't either. But that's besides the point. I was replying to the first comment that stated that the video favoured George's and John's interest in avant garde over Paul, which I find to be a falacy since beside his small contribution to Revolution 9, the video mainly mentions Paul and John.

    • @JoaoGabriel-lk9cv
      @JoaoGabriel-lk9cv 3 года назад

      @Jay Absolutely.

    • @ewest14
      @ewest14 2 года назад

      Well Paul didn’t use many avant garde techniques in his songs aside from Eleanor Rigby. He was however responsible for many of the avant garde aspects in John’s songs like Tomorrow Never Knows (tape loops) and A Day in the Life (atonal improvised orchestral crescendo). Paul also did an avant garde piece before John’s Revolution #9, which was Carnival of Light. Paul has been trying to get it released but Ringo, Yoko, and George’s estate have blocked it

  • @garretkaplan
    @garretkaplan 3 года назад +1

    What’s the beautiful Eb major backround piece in 2:29?

  • @James000
    @James000 5 лет назад

    Class Composer best of 21st century. 👏

  • @chadwickmcfaggins9734
    @chadwickmcfaggins9734 4 года назад

    good video

  • @acslater017
    @acslater017 Год назад

    They expanded their minds

  • @holaatyaboy6765
    @holaatyaboy6765 Год назад +1

    Here you go internet, using a set of words I’ve never heard and making a RUclips video about it.

  • @johannes5291
    @johannes5291 3 года назад +1

    this saved me from a school prodject

  • @tuppot
    @tuppot 9 месяцев назад

    I'm an orchestra musician and an arranger, and I've also conducted a few times and I can confirm that orchestra musicians just _can't_ play something if it's not written down, no matter how simple, and that's so, so frustrating.

  • @chodycho
    @chodycho 2 года назад +2

    Short answer: no
    Long answer: sorta

  • @maxfraser3396
    @maxfraser3396 5 лет назад

    Why did u leave me 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @EllieMcEla
    @EllieMcEla 2 года назад

    no!

  • @dragoscasenco6982
    @dragoscasenco6982 3 года назад

    want a short answer to the title? no.

  • @jillespina
    @jillespina 3 года назад +4

    And the Beatles actually saved ‘classical’ music from their avant garde atonal/chance “end-of-music” direction to which modern composers were heading.

    • @hizon525
      @hizon525 2 года назад +1

      Can you elaborate on this, what do you mean by "saved" classical music?