I played the opening two hours or so on a 120hz tv (vrr) with the visuals mode on and set to 60 fps. The indoor areas held up very well. New Atlantis certainly runs inconsistently but still seems to be within the vrr range. From what I’ve seen it doesn’t run that much better in performance mode so I think I will continue to play with the visuals mode at 60 fps. When combined with the improved hdr it feels like the game is much closer to what it should have been at launch. I’m firmly convinced this game was still a year away from being complete when they launched but just could t wait anymore. Hopefully Bethesda keeps plugging away. I really really want mod support on Xbox.
Hmm. Can kind of see why they applied the 30fps cap (city areas and space fights are 35-45fps). If you have a VRR TV though, it's a particularly nice upgrade.
I also understand that but it does explain why so outdated game runs at 30fps. Many loading screens, cities without vehicles and still 30fps;) Those of course are CPU relatated.
I can firmly say that with vrr on a 120 fps display it feels significantly smoother than 30 fps in almost all cases and it never feels worse than 30 fps. It’s still not great that you need an expensive tv to get a “smoothish” experience. One thing worth mentioning is that the game already had great input lag at 30 fps and it is even better at 60 so the gunplay feels very tight.
It’s good enough tho cities which you basically just talk to people and run around being 30 to 40 but combat and planet exploration being 50 to 60 Yh these modes are worth it it’s higher than 30fps so it’s good
Playing this on a 55” C1 OLED 120hz not having any issues myself. My only complaint is they made a game about traveling the universe and didnt think to add other life forms that weren’t insectoids?! How’s that working out..?
It’s a hard choice, keep visuals at 30fps or performance 60fps. It sure feels nice to be indoors running at 60fps, but then you go outside in cities it drops hard. I don’t know.
I finally returned to Starfield after six months. Just played uncapped 120fps with VRR enabled and it is indeed a game changer. Don't think I'll be playing any other way. Jet packing feels so much better plus I had it maxed out when I stopped. I'm starting to since we may have another Cyberpunk situation on our hand. Just remember that Cyberpunk was much more broken than Starfield at launch.
@@aaronvasseur6559 I mean, It's kind like a game running 40 to 60. Too much variarion n motion from point A to B during gameplay. VRR hells but from 60 to 100 seens kind a lot. I don't have VRR TV so I'm asking.
I am playing on visuals 60fps and ok it’s not hitting 60fps but it’s between 40 and 50 most of the time it’s better than 30fps so it’s a good update in interiors it’s at 60fps pretty much cities will only hit 30 to 40fps but they don’t really matter because your only running around and talking no combat really happens there overall this update makes the game play better so it’s a win
That's weird I went to New Atlantis and was hitting 60 a lot. THO I only went to the launchpad area and Commercial areas. didn't visit the other Areas. I use a VRR TV. I was actually surprised given most videos i seen mentioned 30s-40s for Cities. Set to Visuals 60, maybe I just got lucky. That's how it is with Bethesda games for me.
Anyone else feel like 40 is the sweetspot for this game? The fluctuations are just too wild to run it any higher. Coming from someone that loves a high fps.
30? Bad. 40? Bad. 60? Bad. Uncapped? Bad. Its always something. Pepole who hates this game will be hating it no matter what. It will be hated when DLC comes out, when creation club with mods hits. Damn even if in 10 years this game turn into a masterpiece with 10 on metacritc someone will post that game sucks and Bethesda blah blah...
It seems to be a trend to hate this game. It's not perfect but it's not that horrible either, it's the type of game you need to be in the mood to play it and have an immersive experience.
i don't know wft happened with bethesda all these years when they could've updated their engine to current gen standards, before selling out to microsoft.
@@mathias2277 that’s just it. You hit on the main issue. Bethesda has not kept up with the times and has wasted way too many resources trying to squeeze the last drop out of a lemon. the fact is, the engine does not work in modern times it cannot be made to work in modern times. They need to ditch it and either use UE5 or developing entirely new engine that allows for multicore simultaneous streaming. Their engine has not been truly updated since Oblivion. Hence, the reason why you are seeing the same issues. Loading screens galore. The fact is, No Man’s Sky is doing it 10 times better and continues to look and run better with every update… a game that was developed by 10 people at the start. Which I think they have 20 now. Maybe more. I haven’t up with the company. Regardless, the game is seamless and has so much more to do than Bethesda’s offering. You can truly play the game any way you want to and switch to whenever you feel like doing that second or that day. Whether that be mining for resources and selling them… Playing the game as a mercenary and doing missions for different factions. You can actually play those factions against each other if you want to. You can play it as a flight combat game, for which it plays incredibly well. Especially with a flight stick. You can build your own base on any planet you choose and simply play the game as a farming simulator. The choice is yours. Not to say that you can’t get any enjoyment out of Starfield. It’s actually fun in spurts. But, it’s very frustrating looking at loading screens so often. Not to mention, space combat feels like it is turn based, simply because of how antiquated the game play feels. All of this is really concerning for the future of their games. Specifically the next elder scrolls game. Which, if they don’t switch or update the game engine… We are going to be looking at the exact same issues. which, truthfully, I’m expecting. Because if they were to now start working on the game engine… We won’t see the next Elder scrolls game for eight years or more. They just need to switch to UE5 and be done with it.
Now all those fanboys can see the truth that Howard mentioned day One ; 30FPS but consistent is far better than 30 - 100 FPS inconsistent ; deepest condolences to all ponies who Never played it and will never supposed to
I wouldn't say that at all. These new Modes improve the experience for sure, especially in interiors. And a boost user to climb ship sections as opposed to the slow ladder climbing it's much appreciated
30fps is always better than something like this. But its not because the game is so complex but because its engine is so old. Now I fully understand the decision to lock at 30fps. But I would rather spent time on polishing 30fps because it's far from perfect.
@@andyward8430I'm playing on a VRR TV so I wouldn't know the difference but maybe I'll try it with a different TV to see for myself because even though it fluctuates a lot in some areas. It never feels bad and certainly no worse than its Original 30. Which I never felt was terrible but certainly felt sluggish in interiors when trying to interact with items and that's where I see the biggest performance improvement.
@@RUclipsCensors yeah same here. If you have a chance to try without vrr i think you’d be surprised at how much of a difference it makes. For example I play Skyrim (heavily modded) quite a bit still and to my eye the game is almost always a locked 60 fps BUT when I turn on the frame rate counter on my tv the framerate is actually between 50 and 60 the whole time. Thanks to vrr I don’t ever notice.
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What’s crazy to me is fallout 4 is for all intents and purposes a more “open world” game with tremendous draw distances that came out years before. You’d think they would have improved their tech enough to handle this game better by now. Each map has way less going on than fallout 4.
It alleviates screen tearing and makes frame rate changes mostly unnoticeable. VRR serves it's purpose on the series x. It's technically the only way to play Valhalla, Deathloop, and Gears 5 at 120hz
No, it's not overrated. Free-Sync & G-Sync are some of the best things gaming has got in all history. I recommend you to try VRR, your opinion will completly change as soon as you try it. No, it's not needed but it's a very cool feature that actually improves your gaming experience by completly removing Screen-Tearing and normally any recent monitor or even TV will probably come with VRR, at least Free-Sync.
@@bigmemphismook9019Framerate changes are nowhere near unnoticiable with VRR on, they feel smoother because your refresh rate will always be on par with your FPS, and that's more of a secondary effect, since the main reason for VRR to be used for gaming is to remove Screen-Tearing.
I played the opening two hours or so on a 120hz tv (vrr) with the visuals mode on and set to 60 fps. The indoor areas held up very well. New Atlantis certainly runs inconsistently but still seems to be within the vrr range. From what I’ve seen it doesn’t run that much better in performance mode so I think I will continue to play with the visuals mode at 60 fps. When combined with the improved hdr it feels like the game is much closer to what it should have been at launch. I’m firmly convinced this game was still a year away from being complete when they launched but just could t wait anymore. Hopefully Bethesda keeps plugging away. I really really want mod support on Xbox.
I agree with just playing it on visuals mode at 60fps. It's been great for me.
Great video man, thanks! Now Starfield is even better 🚀
The longer I look at it, the more convinced I am, that Fallout 4 after the next gen patch looks a lot better. It's really wierd...
Hmm. Can kind of see why they applied the 30fps cap (city areas and space fights are 35-45fps). If you have a VRR TV though, it's a particularly nice upgrade.
Just tried it out on my 4k 55 inch TV with no vrr. While it would be less juddery with it I'm definitely playing the performance mode 😂😂😂😂😂
I also understand that but it does explain why so outdated game runs at 30fps. Many loading screens, cities without vehicles and still 30fps;) Those of course are CPU relatated.
I can firmly say that with vrr on a 120 fps display it feels significantly smoother than 30 fps in almost all cases and it never feels worse than 30 fps. It’s still not great that you need an expensive tv to get a “smoothish” experience. One thing worth mentioning is that the game already had great input lag at 30 fps and it is even better at 60 so the gunplay feels very tight.
It’s good enough tho cities which you basically just talk to people and run around being 30 to 40 but combat and planet exploration being 50 to 60 Yh these modes are worth it it’s higher than 30fps so it’s good
@@aaronvasseur6559 agreed
60hz TV 60 FPS Mode Quality Mode runs fine
Yep. Its true.
Playing this on a 55” C1 OLED 120hz not having any issues myself. My only complaint is they made a game about traveling the universe and didnt think to add other life forms that weren’t insectoids?! How’s that working out..?
It’s a hard choice, keep visuals at 30fps or performance 60fps. It sure feels nice to be indoors running at 60fps, but then you go outside in cities it drops hard. I don’t know.
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I finally returned to Starfield after six months. Just played uncapped 120fps with VRR enabled and it is indeed a game changer. Don't think I'll be playing any other way. Jet packing feels so much better plus I had it maxed out when I stopped. I'm starting to since we may have another Cyberpunk situation on our hand. Just remember that Cyberpunk was much more broken than Starfield at launch.
Nice display of 60fps gameplay, definitely performed better than expected.
a triple a game on a next gen console running at 900p to get 60fps is unbelievably depressing on so many levels
900p upscalled
please test assasins creed rogue remastered in xbox series x with fps boost
So they pretty much future proofed the game when the next gen console comes out.
Essentially yeah. It was really smart actually
Or for the upcoming PS5 Pro release 💪💪💪
The industry always do that, and will always will do.
35 to 100 FPS seens a bit odd even with VRR, right?
If it can be played at higher fps why not
@@aaronvasseur6559 I mean, It's kind like a game running 40 to 60. Too much variarion n motion from point A to B during gameplay. VRR hells but from 60 to 100 seens kind a lot. I don't have VRR TV so I'm asking.
Hmm 30fps in the city at performance mode, pretty nice 👍
Was already playing the game at 30 so, getting that all the way to 60 in cities is a plus regardless.
@@RUclipsCensors Imagine liking starflop 🤣🤣🤣
@@MichaelM28I like Starfield. I like the last of us 2, and days gone also. What's your problem? Go back to school kid.
@@kiyoshiakiyama2173that guy is on every starfield vid hating no point interacting
Do you recommend buying Xbox series x on the summer
Do it, it’s a great console!
I am playing on visuals 60fps and ok it’s not hitting 60fps but it’s between 40 and 50 most of the time it’s better than 30fps so it’s a good update in interiors it’s at 60fps pretty much cities will only hit 30 to 40fps but they don’t really matter because your only running around and talking no combat really happens there overall this update makes the game play better so it’s a win
That's weird I went to New Atlantis and was hitting 60 a lot. THO I only went to the launchpad area and Commercial areas. didn't visit the other Areas. I use a VRR TV. I was actually surprised given most videos i seen mentioned 30s-40s for Cities.
Set to Visuals 60, maybe I just got lucky. That's how it is with Bethesda games for me.
Why it looks jittery when turning
Anyone else feel like 40 is the sweetspot for this game? The fluctuations are just too wild to run it any higher. Coming from someone that loves a high fps.
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30? Bad. 40? Bad. 60? Bad. Uncapped? Bad. Its always something. Pepole who hates this game will be hating it no matter what. It will be hated when DLC comes out, when creation club with mods hits. Damn even if in 10 years this game turn into a masterpiece with 10 on metacritc someone will post that game sucks and Bethesda blah blah...
It seems to be a trend to hate this game. It's not perfect but it's not that horrible either, it's the type of game you need to be in the mood to play it and have an immersive experience.
This flop will never become anywhere close to a masterpiece. Cry harder xbot 🤣🤣🤣
@@Simoroxigorum It's not a trend, the game is just objectively trash. Cope harder
@@MichaelM28 you sound gay asf
@@MichaelM28 It's a truly wonderful game. For adults that is .
Sarah would really like to have a word with you, lol.
Imagine your optimization is bad you have framerate below 40fps during space battles while Star Wars Squadrons is running at 120fps on consoles.
That game has nothing but a spaceship to load
even the one s is running squadron at 60 fbs
i don't know wft happened with bethesda all these years when they could've updated their engine to current gen standards, before selling out to microsoft.
@@mathias2277 that’s just it. You hit on the main issue. Bethesda has not kept up with the times and has wasted way too many resources trying to squeeze the last drop out of a lemon. the fact is, the engine does not work in modern times it cannot be made to work in modern times. They need to ditch it and either use UE5 or developing entirely new engine that allows for multicore simultaneous streaming. Their engine has not been truly updated since Oblivion. Hence, the reason why you are seeing the same issues. Loading screens galore.
The fact is, No Man’s Sky is doing it 10 times better and continues to look and run better with every update… a game that was developed by 10 people at the start. Which I think they have 20 now. Maybe more. I haven’t up with the company. Regardless, the game is seamless and has so much more to do than Bethesda’s offering. You can truly play the game any way you want to and switch to whenever you feel like doing that second or that day.
Whether that be mining for resources and selling them… Playing the game as a mercenary and doing missions for different factions. You can actually play those factions against each other if you want to. You can play it as a flight combat game, for which it plays incredibly well. Especially with a flight stick. You can build your own base on any planet you choose and simply play the game as a farming simulator. The choice is yours.
Not to say that you can’t get any enjoyment out of Starfield. It’s actually fun in spurts. But, it’s very frustrating looking at loading screens so often. Not to mention, space combat feels like it is turn based, simply because of how antiquated the game play feels. All of this is really concerning for the future of their games. Specifically the next elder scrolls game. Which, if they don’t switch or update the game engine… We are going to be looking at the exact same issues. which, truthfully, I’m expecting. Because if they were to now start working on the game engine… We won’t see the next Elder scrolls game for eight years or more. They just need to switch to UE5 and be done with it.
@@pedramzarei634the stuff in space in starfield are jpeg images what are you even talking about?
Now all those fanboys can see the truth that Howard mentioned day One ; 30FPS but consistent is far better than 30 - 100 FPS inconsistent ; deepest condolences to all ponies who Never played it and will never supposed to
I wouldn't say that at all. These new Modes improve the experience for sure, especially in interiors. And a boost user to climb ship sections as opposed to the slow ladder climbing it's much appreciated
We'll be able to play it on our PS5 Pro at a locked 60fps by the end of the year. Can't wait to see you xbots have another collective meltdown 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
30fps is always better than something like this. But its not because the game is so complex but because its engine is so old. Now I fully understand the decision to lock at 30fps. But I would rather spent time on polishing 30fps because it's far from perfect.
i'll take 35 to 60 fps over a locked 30 fps any day. its just something about the locked 30 that messes with my eyes.
@@bullseyebob47at least with vrr. It can be pretty distracting on a standard display imo.
@@andyward8430I'm playing on a VRR TV so I wouldn't know the difference but maybe I'll try it with a different TV to see for myself because even though it fluctuates a lot in some areas. It never feels bad and certainly no worse than its Original 30. Which I never felt was terrible but certainly felt sluggish in interiors when trying to interact with items and that's where I see the biggest performance improvement.
@@RUclipsCensors yeah same here. If you have a chance to try without vrr i think you’d be surprised at how much of a difference it makes. For example I play Skyrim (heavily modded) quite a bit still and to my eye the game is almost always a locked 60 fps BUT when I turn on the frame rate counter on my tv the framerate is actually between 50 and 60 the whole time. Thanks to vrr I don’t ever notice.
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In mother Russia Game Translates You. Just play the game and win the Ukraine war already so our Brandon led geniuses stop sending our money to Ukraine, not really it's mostly going to Thieves in the MIC
60 fps Bugsimulator
Devs need to relax a bit from doing that massive open damn world game esp this kind of game
What’s crazy to me is fallout 4 is for all intents and purposes a more “open world” game with tremendous draw distances that came out years before. You’d think they would have improved their tech enough to handle this game better by now. Each map has way less going on than fallout 4.
@@andyward8430
cuz they r over-imagining
@@Krypterium they’re definitely over doing something.
@@andyward8430
which ends up awful game at 30fps
Imagine liking Starflop 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bethesda is a joke imo.
Yeah you're a joke
As someone with a VRR+LFC TV: Bethesda is genius.
@@OneLastScholar Typical Bethesda shill.
No one cares bro
I think they think you are a joke also but ok
Vrr is overrated it’s just not needed cool to have it I guess but it’s pointless
It helps smooth out gameplay and makes fps dips less perceivable. I'd say it's pretty useful...
It alleviates screen tearing and makes frame rate changes mostly unnoticeable. VRR serves it's purpose on the series x. It's technically the only way to play Valhalla, Deathloop, and Gears 5 at 120hz
No, it's not overrated. Free-Sync & G-Sync are some of the best things gaming has got in all history. I recommend you to try VRR, your opinion will completly change as soon as you try it. No, it's not needed but it's a very cool feature that actually improves your gaming experience by completly removing Screen-Tearing and normally any recent monitor or even TV will probably come with VRR, at least Free-Sync.
@@bigmemphismook9019Framerate changes are nowhere near unnoticiable with VRR on, they feel smoother because your refresh rate will always be on par with your FPS, and that's more of a secondary effect, since the main reason for VRR to be used for gaming is to remove Screen-Tearing.
@@accountteam9859 10-4 Boss
20 years old engine
Trash game and always will be