Ukraine Occupies Kursk: What Next?
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On Tuesday, hundreds of pro-Ukrainian troops launched an incursion into the Russian oblast of Kursk and captured Russian territory. So in this video, we'll look at the history of Ukraine's incursions, why this is different and what might happen next.
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UPDATE: Since we wrote this video, the Pentagon have apparently announced that American weapons systems can indeed be used during the Kursk offensive (www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3867296/deputy-pentagon-press-secretary-sabrina-singh-holds-a-press-conference/ ).
It's also worth mentioning that, while there have been some reports of Ukrainian F16s in Kursk, the lack of video evidence this deep into the offensive suggests that Ukraine have not deployed F16s to Kursk (yet).
Putin has said the the only thing that will make them use nukes is an attack on Russian homeland. It is obvious that when Ukraine now loses with conventional weapons they want to provoke Russia to use them, thus dragging NATO into a fullscale nuclear war.
It's so convenient for everyone to ignore the fact that there is a gas line that is still pumping gas from Russia to Europe in that town. Europe still pays Russia for gas partly funding the war they so dislike on paper. And Ukraine still let this happen (because without it they won't get the aid they want). If Ukraine really wanted this war to stop they would cut all the business with Russia, but they won't. The elites from all sides benefit from this war and you don't have guts to acknowledge that.
They're for air defense I doubt they'd fly east unless to intercept
@@TLDRnewsEU why you keep deleting comments about gas line?
And about UA taking a big risk with this move? Thats a genuine concern. Overextending on this might leave them on a weak position up north which would suck a lot!
My god this really is like seeing someone’s HOI4 game gone wrong.
HOI4 Millenium dawn update is wild
Eh sorry after I made Biden drop of the 2024 race I tag Ukraine then gave research all to Ukraine then tag another Country. Sadly I don’t know what country to bring my random funny chaos.
Is like playing Total War lol
You mean Ukraine's
@@KSzkodaGamesThe diplomacy sucks and makes zero sense from a gameplay perspective, so you got a point.
Putin : How's the invasion of Ukraine going?
Gherasimov : You mean the defense of Kursk
Putin : The.... WHAT?
Keep joking whilst russia keeps on gaining more land
@@abdullahalkandari2976ok bot
@@G-u-z-i-o you're the bot here
We goin back to the 40s 😭💀🙏🔥
@@G-u-z-i-ofacts dont lie, kursk pr operation is temporary whilst the gains on the front are pernament
Ukraine has not invaded Russia. The Kursk People's Republic merely asked for external support.
They have also voted to join Ukraine with a 99.7% approval rate 😂
The Ukrainian speaking majority!
Time for a referendum...
It's a Special Military Operation
The people in Kursk need to be protected from the oppressive Putin regime
We went from "Kyiv in 3 days" to "Kursk is being invaded" in 3 years of war.
PR stunt propaganda. Russia uses natural borders for defense. No reason to lose lives over nothing . They'll be in kursk and stay there period
@@gaulicwarlord The Copium of the Ruskie Sympathizers are real, because Ukraine are making the entirety of Russia look like a clown show
@@gaulicwarlordputin himself said that so why are you lying?
@@gaulicwarlord Yeah, "exhausted all capabilities" by not going through with it? Because they basically stopped after 3 days of strategies that required more air support that they had.
@@gaulicwarlord Bot ass response. Op said nothing about who said what, simply that Russia was clearly not prepared for this war even three years in.
Ah yes, Ukrainian Special Military Operation
They should do a referendum, maybe that part of Kursk wants to join Ukraine...🤣
@@mchipelo Sudzha was the first capital of Soviet Ukraine
@@mchipelo Agreed. Kursk has always been historic Ukrainian land, but recently there's been a lot of Communists in this region causing uproar. The region needs a Decommunization and Ukrainian soldiers need to act as peace keepers in the Kursk People's Republic.
Special military incursion as a response to special military operation by russia.
@@mchipelo I heard from a Russian civilian video on FB saying that Ukrainians told the Russian civilians something about "Learning the Ukrainian anthem and prepare for a referrendum"
Putin 2022: Russia has no borders.
Ukraine 2024: Okay 😂
Putin: That's not what i meant.😢
Keep joking whilst russia keeps on gaining more land every day
@@abdullahalkandari2976 Russia lost in a day what Ukraine loses in a month. Начукай си го, Руски
@@abdullahalkandari2976 How much more lost cannon fodder and ancient tanks can your favorite failed state afford?
Will the West keep funding defensive operations of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Russian territory?
@@abdullahalkandari2976😢😢😢
Breaking news!
99.5% of Kursk oblast has voted to be a part of the Ukrainian federation.
99.7% get your facts right!
@@Pioneer_DEhe's right im from Kursk. I want to be part of Ukraine. Slava UKR 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@@Pioneer_DE No, these numbers will be too ridicules.
Nice wet dream.
@@PhilipLaSnailyou're right, 102% is more realistic
From a 3-15 days offensive operation to a defensive operation, uh.
Are you out of your rabbit hole.. enjoy . In less than a week youll be back in that stinky hole
russia is 3rd in military power and cant even invade a country
the US is 1st in military power and lost in afghanistan/vietnam
China is 2nd in military power and can't even sustain its economy
calling them superpowers without nuclear weapons is an overstatement
@@kingsly3690Can you name one country that would have been able to do this well against ukriane with full NATO support and Billions of dollars in aid?
I'll wait.
Name one other country that isn't the US, any country, ANY AT ALL.
And then you'll see exactly why Russia is the world's number 2 military.
The UK with its barely 70k soldiers couldn't do it, neither could France, Germany, China... Lol... Turkey?🤣, Is it south Korea?, Is it North Korea?...
Who?
You keep repeating the 3 days operation lie.
After 2 years of this nonsense being debunked.
Dude, I genuinely think you're sick.
There is no way in hell you're still saying this.
Like a covidian still screaming 100% safe and effective till this day.
What did they do to you?
Ukraine should hold a referendum in Kursk and make it officially Ukrainian territory. That's totally legal according to Russia.
putin say: well done Ukraine , well done
If it will legalize his own captures he would do it
@@retrocomputing That's an interesting comment. You just might be right sir.
You shouldn't stoop to the level of your enemy, that's stupid and destroys the moral high ground that you would have
Ukraine pulled that uno reverse card
Yes, and y'all are praying that Putin will not pull his "tactical nukleare strike " card. 💀
@@KasparOne in that case ukraine will just pull the "american nuclear arsenal card"
@@fiorinopizio4554 I'd love to see that.
@@KasparOne no one would love to see that
@@fiorinopizio4554 I understand. You encourage escalation of the conflict, but you are not willing to take it on yourself.
Remember when Russia said this would be over in 2 weeks
Westerners interference prolong the war. Russia will win tho just not in that time frame.
Remember when zelensky said that he will liberate crimra and every city russia gained..
they said 3 days US said 2 weeks
@@Alaryk111 No? USA said ukraine would last 3 days....
@@abdullahalkandari2976didn’t say when though
Russia: "Yoink!"
Ukraine: "Yoink!"
Russia: "Wait, that's illegal!" 😨
Thats exactly what they did, they already call it a terrorist attack and cry to the west for condemnation lmao
@@huntcringedown2721as *_if_* we're gonna let them crybully their way out of this.
“Yoink” lmao 😂
@@huntcringedown2721 Technically because Ukraine didnt declare any operation nor a war.
@@attilamarics3374 they dont have to formally declare a war to a nation that invade them, that is considered an act of war
Dont worry, its just a special military operation, not an invasion
Yup,Kursk Peoples Republic were desperate for Ukranian liberators to free them from opression of Ukranian majority
Very funny. But stale jokes aside what are your actual thoughts on Ukraine illegally invading russian territory? Its okay when the U.S. global empires and their proxies do it? Or is their some consistent rule. Nobody seems to be answering this
@@IconoclastXIt's not illegal for Ukraine to enter Russian territory. Russia is invading Ukraine so that gives Ukraine the moral authority to fight back.
@@IconoclastX stfu vodka bear how much rebels kremlin is paying you?
@@Strideo1 So NATO backed Ukraine can annex russian territory and forcibly take people's homes and land and private property under international law as apart of self defense? Thats your position?
An interesting fact, Sudza was once temporarily the capital of Soviet Ukraine. Therefore, games about historical lands can be played together.
And an even more interesting fact is that the distance to the Kursk nuclear power station is getting closer...
And that plant powers Russians largest iron mines and refining plants!
ukraine is already getting countered in kursk and they are not even halfway to the nuclear plant. yall are delusional
@@gary_beniford Russia sent reinforcements and even the Russian military commentators have said they were blown to bits! It's not as Black and White as you seem to think
@jessgunn6639 it's a numbers game. There's 1 to 6000 ukrainans maybe 60 vehicles left. There were 700,000 Russian soldiers guarding the Baltic border. Russia is slow move but more than capable of turning things around.
@@gary_beniford but both sides are not fighting for the same reason and that makes a huge difference in capabilities
Glad for your wording of "normal reasons" describing the Freedom of Russia Legion. It's sad we have to usually come to long explanations for a group who's just fighting against an imperialist that sent them to die.
Lol they are Russian fascists. They simp for Russian Zarist empire. 😂
Propaganda much. ? Now you don't care about supporting nazis . 😅 ph the hypocrite
Putin is not an imperialist.
@@anton1713You're right, he's also a psychotic tyrant. Thanks for bringing that up.
@@anton1713
He is openly an imperialists, he is even proud of it, if he were to read your message he would found himself confused on how deaf you are
Russia is the second strongest army in Russia.
2018: second strongest military in the world
2023: second strongest military in Ukraine
2024: second strongest military in Russia
@@Northeast_Atlanticsource: I made it up
@@Committee_of_Nations
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😂 Russia is the second strongest army in Russia, had to read the comment twice before I got it.. so who’s number one?
@@LeeKelly-dj4rf Ukraine/NATO
Apparently, the best defense truly is offense.
See the Gallipoli campaign during WW1 in 1915. That’s another example
@@MinecraftAxolotls another massive failure that could have been easily prevented
@@gary_beniford Allies just wanted to open up another front to ease tensions off the western front and besides, that was more than 100 years ago
@MinecraftAxolotls is not true. The British hoped to use galiplli as a bridgehead to capture Istanbul. Get turks out of the war. Connect with Russia and cut oil for Germany. They already had a 1910 study on the straits' coastal defense, and they knew the attack would be prone to failure. Winston Churchill proposed the attack as a "new idea" and pulled strings to make it happen. Then exactly as the analysis predicted they could not land close to Istanbul because of the coastal batteries. They had to land on an isolated peninsula. The British landing created a rage among the turks and hundreds of thousands of middle class turks volunteered for the fight. Germany sent more machine guns and artillery to bog the British down. The turks immediately adapted to trench warfare and bogged the British down. Ultimately, the royal navy had to come pick the British soldiers up and admit defeat.
Time for Russia to recognize the "new territorial reality" in kursk
Those gains are temporary while the Russian gains in Avdiivka are permanent
@@Kyr93 Kherson?
@@Kyr93 everything is permanent until it ends
@@besconst Ukraine is weakened now after the failed summer offensive morale and manpower is low
@@bighillraft they gotta stop Russia from advancing on the east first. And don't tell be about the classic cope of 1000 men loss for 1 village
This event will either be known in history as a genius move by Ukraine or a stupid move by Ukraine. No in between.
Ukraine won't be able to hold it
@@BOZ_11It will… Russia doesnt have enough to push them back, Russia is struggling to do anything in the Ukrainian mainland.
@@casper6014 the Russians are near to capturing the remaining parts of the 2014 defense line near niu york, they are also having success (although varied) across the Donetsk front in general, this isn't a confident offensive meant to actually push Russia, this is a desperate measure to push away troops from a front where Ukraine is losing (Donetsk)
@@zexmindyourownbusiness248 advancing a few KM a day with the loss of over 1000 people a day is impossible to sustain. Russia will be forced to stretch out their troops, stopping offensives in Ukraine or making the Russian frontlines in Ukraine weaker making it possible for Ukraine to push trough.
@@BOZ_11 I can't imagine holding it for a long period is the plan. Maybe its a diversion?
The size of Putin's tables remains comical.
It's crazy how out of date this video is considering how much the situation has evolved at this point.
It takes time to make a video and the situation is rapidly evolving
@@harrypearson6675 I didn't mean the comment as a complaint, really to just point out how quickly the situation is moving just as you said.
Media is slower than reddit these days...
The video simply started out with flat out click bait nonsense - the Ukrainian army is controlling parts of Kursk Oblast, not the city itself. The latest reports put battle lines a good 100 km away from the city.
That's akin to saying that the Russian military now controls Kherson and Kharkiv in the East of Ukraine.
Bottom tier reporting and click bait from the TLDR team. I take my complaints back, I'm fine with them mispronouncing every single foreign name they come across. Just maybe take a minute to look at a map before writing the script.
@@miken3963 I think you know the locals poorly "Kursk" is the region. People don't say "I am from Kurchatov" they're Kuriane.
No matter how this war will eventually end, in the future we will read in all history books about the heroic defence of the Ukrainians against a world superpower, which no one had thought possible in 2022
Unlikely we will hear much about it if Ukraine loses.
@@filipe5722it won't lmao
@@katalinnemeth5871 driving porsches and range rovers around germany
@@filipe5722 if the west will continue to support Ukraine, Russia will never get control of Kyiv or Ukrainian territory west of the Dnepr. And I'm not sure if taking only a few kilometers more than they already controlled in 2022 in a costly war of several years would count as a win for Russia, a supposed world superpower
@@katalinnemeth5871 spotted the Orbán supporter
Russia attacks and invades Ukraine
Ukraine defend and attacks Russian territory
Putin : surprised Pikachu face
How is capturing civillians and towns defensive? None of this is legal btw. You can not feel sorry for russia and make jokes(some are funny) but you're still supporting an illegal invasion. Now ofcourse, nobody will do anything about it because america controls the 'international' community. But according to those laws theirs no justification for stealing territory, ever. So either its wrong for both russia to do it and proxy Ukrainian NATO forces OR Russia's invasion was justified. I guess pick one
This war is the most chaotic, confusing and unpredictable mess ever
Ever since that Wagner revolt the most random shit happens, like, Ukraine invades Russia now? Huh???
Ukraine: Fighting for their continued existence
Russia: [Insert Benny Hill Theme]
@@Kret-o you think other wars were different back in the day?
Nope, you are just ignorant. The opposite, this war is pretty stagnant in broad perspective.
Speaking of the Wagner Group, Russia is calling them back
But let's be honest here no one expected that also how tf are Rusians surprised by this don't they have satellites, drones, surveillance and est
The Blitzkrieg move definitely made Putin more nervous than I ever seen him before I have to say he should have seen this coming. Never underestimate your enemies no matter how inferior that you perceive them as.
Wow, imagine hating Putin for not being ultra nationalist *enough*. Crazy.
Putin is not a nationalist
People in the West often confuse European or American-style conservatism with Putin's 'red conservatism' (or we can also call it Soviet-style conservatism).
Ikr. If you think Putin is too liberal I have an Adolf in a Volkswagen to sell you
It's a more religious thing. Putin sided with remaining Chechen Muslims against other Russian minorities to keep them all in check, hence why they use Chechen Muslims as the "barrier troops" behind the lines to force Russian conscripts forwards, and kill anyone retreating.
These "volunteers" are essentially ethnically white European Russians from Moscow who hate Muslims and the various other minorities within Russia MORE than they hate ethnically white Ukrainians, and see the religious minorities as more dangerous to Russia and thus Putin as an enemy for siding with them rather than...exterminating...them.
Although the constant terror attacks in Russia and the West would suggest that they may be onto something about Muslims just being more of a danger than free Ukrainians for neighbours.
This is what inevitably happens when you pander to far-right influences, eventually, you embolden even further right forces who don't think you're sufficiently reactionary enough- it's even happened to Trump
Putin looked like he'd had a full on spitting raging argument with his henchmen
Note, the restriction is on only *western weapons* in being used in Russia. Not Ukraine attacking Russia territory in general. Important difference.
American Weapons mainly, Sweden has no restrictions. And I'm sure many other countries doesn't care too much at this point either.
There are Bradleys in Kursk tho. @@Ander01SE Germany and UK are kind of blocking stome stuff because of Americans.
It's still deeply silly. How many red lines have been crossed now with nothing happening?
What a montypython act is it? Attacking RU but not crossing the border? Or swapping weapons there via COD? Or claiming it as Ukrainian territory and everything is alright. 😂
I'm going to say the obvious out loud : No Western country actually cares that Ukraine uses their weapons in Ukraine. It's simply possible deniability and make the escalation seem more gradual.
Ukraine already fired HIMARS on Russia just yesterday, even using ATACMS to ravage Russian convoys. Do you see Washington crying? Nope.
The free Republic of Kursk voted 99,9% for independence fom Russia and voted with 100% for joining Ukraine. Green men observed that 200% of voters have been accounted for.
"Ukraine's possible motivations..."
I can think of one motivation...
Russian: Losses 80k man to gain 160km2 of territory
Ukraine and 1000 soldier boi: Hold my beer
Ukraine passed a law to recruit 16 year olds and people over 65 years of age, oh and also criminals, but yeah sure Russia is losing 500 billion men to gain 1 city
10 Of 100 artillery of rf be like: do you see those ukrainian fortified location?
10mins later: now u dont
@@silencio9425 sure comrade Ivan, sure. Here, get 10 rubles and buy yourself some medicine 🤣
@@silencio9425 Russian convoy? What Russian convoy? Also, where are the conscripts? It's like they disappeared without much fight facing the Ukrainian army. But Putin told us Russian conscripts would never surrender, so surely they are just on permanent vacation.
I think this is ultimately the idea. Russia is making gains in the east, but doing so with great loss of life and equipment. Ukraine is trying to make a handful of soldiers go a long way by drawing a response of tens of thousands of soldiers to defend the kursk region. Pluse the tens of thousands more that will need to step up border security for the rest of the border. Ukraine is hoping a small investment can make big returns
Have they done a referendum yet, asking the citizens of Kursk if they want to join Ukraine? 😅🙈
What do you mean a referendum. War is not democratic.
@@PatrickStephens-hc5sp luckily Putin has never done the same thing
@@PatrickStephens-hc5sp Nahh 283% of Kursk's People's Republic want to join Ukraine!!!
No need! Kursk was always Ukrainian. Yes two can play this game.
@@KasumiRINA it actually had a pretty high Ukrainian population until WW2. Stalin used the war as an excuse to do a lot of ethnic cleansing of his own, including the replacement of a lot of the Ukrainian communities in bordering regions with Russians. The Ukrainians were resettled in the formerly Polish and Romanian majority territories added to the Ukrainian SSR (rather ironic) or, of course, shipped to Siberia and Kazakhstan, Stalin's dumping grounds for minorities he didn't like.
What I'm saying is that Ukraine should do a fake referendum lmao, they have a better reason than Russia does. Of course Kursk was never majority Ukrainian but them again, the Donbass isn't majority Russian
Belgorod and Kursk are large towns. They were never under control of any armed forces other than russians. You must specify that Ukraine is attacking districts, not towns.
Occupies a "substantial part of Russian territory"
2 minutes later: 50sq kms.
In warfare, that is actually a lot.
For context, 50 sqm^2 is more than Russia has gained from Ukraine in 2024 so far, and it includes an area with a population of 74 000 people, which at Russia's GDP per capita is something like $2bn wiped off their GDP.
So no, quite a lot. Especially for a country which was meant to be "Kyiv in 3 days" invaded.
@@abelnicolaebaritone It's nothing.
@@varsoo1 It's meaningless. It is a swift maneuver. You're presenting this like Ukraine is planning to park and hold that land. They aren't. It's a diversion. They cannot hold it.
Russia should join NATO in order to protect itself from Ukraine xD
Putin offered, once. In the early 2000s. On _'their'_ terms.
@@normanclatcher Not the case. He whined about not being "invited" but he never applied.
@@qube3634To be fair, the USSR applied for NATO membership but was rejected for “reasons”
@@CCCPRusRus What is your source for this misinformation?
@@CCCPRusRus Not true. Prove it with a link pl
I read the title and for a second thought they had made it all the way to the city of Kursk 🤣
Yes. Not the most suitable title, as I thought the same.
Karma has been delivered
Go back to your rabbit hole
Lol this won't end well for Ukraine.
Ok, they are fighting against a supposed superpower. Everything matters@@tobiisiba1641
@@tobiisiba1641 Time Will tell friend
@@ajfcrew2858This will either be a very smart move or a very stupid move. Keep in mind, Russia is still advancing in Donetsk every day, so diverting troops from that front to invade Russia to probably get pushed back….. might not be a good idea
Putin wishes he could load an earlier playthrough of his Civ campaign, because this one's going horribly wrong for him.
Least he don't have to worry about Ghandi ,world would be a wasteland XD
we do a little trolling.
So no more appealing to international law right?
@@IconoclastXso when Russia invades Ukraine, completely fine, but when Ukraine does the same in response, that’s a violation of international law?
@@Bdawgvalid did I say that? Lol
@@IconoclastX ofc
@@IconoclastX Please cite what part of international law is being violated by this attack and occupation? And no, it's not an annexation as I've seen you claim in other threads, Ukraine has not stated or even implied that it will permanently consider the region part of Ukraine.
Fun fact: This is the first time a country had its troops on Russian territory since WW2
And again it's german tanks rolling in russia
@@taffingtonboathouse5754
Russia: This is will only take three days!
*THREE YEARS LATER*
German Tanks: I'M BACK BABYYYY
What about the Chechen invasion of Dagestan?
Das ist unglaublich!
A) the Leopard is not an artillery
B) this isn't even a Leopard its some random soviet T-series tanks
looks more like one of those updated t55's from slovenia
@@MaxVerhaag The problem with that is the M55S has the legendary L7 105mm gun. This is not an L7. My guess is there's a T-64 under all that ERA simply because its Ukraines most common MBT
Im not sure whats on the picture but 22nd Brigade uses ex-polish PT-91 and it is one of the brigades involved in Kursk region.
it's not an invasion. it's a special military operation.
Russia bot
@The_undead1 I think they are just poking fun by using the same logic to justify ukraines push in the Kursk region. I do understand the sentiment. There are a lot of russian bots in this comment section.
@@Skoob0504I do understand the denial. There are a lot of Ukrainian bots in the comments
@CCCPRusRus Says the guy with CCCP in his name.
@@Skoob0504 Says the guy with Skoob in his name
bro my ass was like "whats up with the skyrim quest markers"
Slava Ukraini!
Ukraine belongs to putin
That’s ancestral Ukrainian land. They just took it back
With that logic, the UK should retake a quarter of the world again
@@CCCPRusRusCCCP ZOV RUS ZOV USSR ZOV
@@CCCPRusRus and mongols should take russia again. im glad we're all in agreement here
@@CCCPRusRus THE fuck u talking about half is lusitanian half is spanis UK was nothing back then
Are we absolutely sure that F16s were used?? B/c if so, that's like...next level. I'm all about the F16s actually getting used after months and months of delays, but...are they REALLY doing stuff?? That'd be so cool! B/c other videos I've watched said stuff about "local air superiority", but it sounded more like a massive concentration of MANPADS, etc, instead of actual air superiority b/c of...air superiority. And the other videos said, basically, "Ukraine is making these massive advances BECAUSE of its local air superiority". I mean...if that's the case, this is MASSIVE.
We only have Russian sources, as Ukraine remains silent for operational security. Personally I find it an unlikely claim, as Ukraine seems to have maybe a dozen F16, and I think it's more likely that Russia now defines every plane as F16 (just like every rocket launcher is HIMARS). But we of course cannot rule out how audacious Ukraine can be with their provided tools.
With the usual escalation management fears in the US, I think it's more likely a Russian talking point.
There is no evidence of Ukraine using F-16s.
Ukraine's massive success is because they attacked the undefended, Russia didnt think they'd do this.
The F-16 aren't used for frontline operations yet. And the "delays" were more of just waiting for pilot training to be finished.
@@martijnpoot5751 it wouldn't surprise me if Russia is already claiming to have shot down 10.000 F-16's.
they always claim to destroy more equipment than Ukraine even has. (and that's why it's so easy to know Russia is lying)
Doubt.. more likely to be hawker hurricanes...
Occupies?
Lol, a generous title if i have seen one
If you control land that is officially part of another. It is called occupation.
"Flying F16s over Russian land" !?!?!? when did that happen?
Again, everything we know so far is Russian blogs and propaganda, they claim F-16's, but I don't know if they are being used. To my knowledge, they aren't.
@@F.R.E.D.D2986 like their claims that they are fighting all of NATO. they just can't comprehend losing from Ukraine so they need to add imaginary adversaries to justify their incompetence
F16s have only just been delivered, so unlikely more than a select handful of sorties have been preformed, if any, as they sort out logistics. There would be zero reason for F16s, or any Ukrainian plane, to fly over Russian territory in order to strike targets only 10km from Ukrainian soil. Was odd to include that in the video.
No f-16s but its been confirmed that they've been using Helicopters
russian "z-correspondent" propagandists always see F16 if it is a plane, HIMARS strike if the are any strike, and also hear German/French/Polish/English language from troops on the ground. Using those information is news is silly
Meanwhile theres a war in the comment section. Bunch of randoms that have nothing to do with anything going on in either country, arguing from their couches 😂😂😂
Slava Ukraine!
I’m starting to notice that the longer this war goes on, the less people care. Which is unfortunate for Ukraine.
Ppl care its just that theres alot going on
Actually its exhausting. I reduced my weekly time on reading on this topic. It doesnt mean i lost interest. It just nothing new happen a lot of the time. Russia pushing slowly with meatwaves and doing warcrimes. Every day. Since 2,5 years
There's a reason Russia and China are friends with Iran, as Iran bankrolls the Triple H of terrorism.
@@WesternXC that's the idea...
@@LLachs283 wait i also watching this topic closely but i dont see russia doing meatwave tactic in any other video i see and its been long debunk dunno where you get that info
Maps are a bit off, as are the estimates of ground gained. More like 200 square KM, not 50. Also! The images shown in the video are from the second day which include a salient which is no longer occupied by Ukraine, and they're missing out on a few gains.
The thumbnail also makes it look like they've captured all of Kursk. I'd recommend looking more into detailed OSINT resources.
At the end of the day maneuver warfare is far more favorable to Ukraine than trench warfare. If they can redirect Russian forces from trenches and minefields into unprepared open terrain and redirect their own troops proportionally then that is far more favorable to them.
It was always said if Ukraine could just get behind Russia's prepared defenses the war would be more favorable to them, now they are behind enemy defenses running lighting strike combined arms operations that their western equipment was designed for.
Would be probably bogged down due to drone strikes and not having proper air cover
@@Fieryxjoe they don't have enough recourses to go deep in Russia. Kursk is more open terrain then Donbass. Russia have more armored vehicles which gives them an edge on this territory.
Actually, if Russia to attack from Kursk they they had it much easier then it is on the south, because there are far less rivers to cross and industrial areas/cities to clear out.
The reason why they haven't done it is most likely the gas line that pumps gas from Russia to Europe through that region.
It depends how cautious they are, if they mindlessly push to Moscow but winter arrives, bad things will happen.
There's an argument to be made that Ukraine should annex Kursk and Belgorod as war reparations. I'm not making that argument, but it could be made.
I don't think Ukraine wants to annex any more ethnically russian and russian speaking land because of the separatists groups they had to deal with in Donbass that were funded by moscow
What the dude above me said
Ukraine wouldn’t want to though. Unlike Russia they are not imperialist
That would just cause more problems
They need Russian territories to swap them for their own. This is the easiest way to get their own back.
Ukrainian Air Force Generals “Lads, go play with your new jets, pick somewhere quiet” next day “You did what?????”
:)))))
The fact putin hasnt used this yet as an excuse to fully mobilize is beyond my comprehension.
"But they (the Russian Volunteer Corps) think Putin's worse because he's apparently turning Russia into a multicultural police state." which is not exactly wrong since Putin IS implementing a police state and Russia IS multicultural.
Yeah, but russian ultranationalists don't want to accept that russia is multicultural and multiethnic, or that the people in the east have any culture outside of being russian. That russia somehow immediately formed one day complete with 11 timezones, but only "russians".
@@lordcirrhosisofliver First of all it's mostly the south not east, second of all ultranationalist Russians have a point in their grudge that Russia is MORE multicultural today than 20 years ago, especially as ethnic Russians re-classify themselves as something else and learn other languages. It's a phenomenon that's common around liberal countries like Spain and the UK.
For example, in the UK, in Wales especially, a larger portion of the population than 20 years ago in Wales classify themselves as "Welsh", explaining where large numbers of "English" / "British" people disappeared to, as they haven't died. People who would have otherwise spoken English at home, now increasingly speak Welsh, as the local nationalist government forces every child to learn Welsh. The number of Welsh speakers has tripled.
In Spain you can see the same effect especially in Valencia and Galicia. Everyone knows Basque and Catalonia has always been separate in a sense, but in the last 20 years Galicians and Valencians have "rediscovered" their roots, and increasingly turn away from Spain.
The same phenomenon occurs in Russia, especially in the south, but in this instance not only is it language and culture, but also religion, as more and more ethnic Russians declare themselves as Muslims, and then no longer ethnically Russian at all, or even Russian-speaking.
According to a recent Moscow State University research project, 17% (!) of Chechnyan residents are those who classed themselves as ethnic Russians who are atheist and speak Russian at home (and a further 4% Orthodox), and now they form a 21% of the population, in addition to the 68% others, who are ethnic Chechens, Muslim and speak Chechen at home. A further 9% of the population class themselves as ethnic Russians who speak Chechen at home, coming from families who in the past spoke Russian at home.
There's nothing inherently 'more' nationalist about a government being nationalist for a majority rather than a state / local government being nationalist for a minority.
I didnt know that they have taken Kursk😂😂
Is there any source for Ukraine using Leopards and/or F-16s in the Kursk incursion? Only vehicles I've seen are the T-72/T-64 tanks, BTR and Stryker APCs.
You're looking for far too much specific information on military operations during a war. This particular war is one of the worst ever for disinformation.
Wait a few years. Let historians do the research. The read their books.
Don't waste your time on wartime news beyond the general overarching big events
Like they said in the video, most of this info is coming from russians. Ukraine wont disclose anything about this operation for the time being
At the time of writing, the furthest Ukrainian advance in Kursk is reported to be 35 km from the state border. 👍 Even if these are only scouts and recon units, Ukraine has pushed quite a lot further than the 10 km mentioned in the video.
The 10km is also quoted in the BBC, so I'm guessing that it's the conservative and definitively demonstrable advance
I don't see why Ukrainians should stop before they take Moscow.
"Tensions are rising along the Sino-Ukrainian border..."
because we would all die..
@@abelnicolaebaritone World's emptiest threat.
@@Ofasia777 it's not a threat. I hope Ucraine wins this, but I'm not sure Putin is in his right mind. He may push the button..
@@abelnicolaebaritone There's no button to push, it doesn't work like that, Russia doesn't work like that, and most importantly, if it was ever going to happen it already would have happened. It's silly talk now.
It's unsustainable, manage your home front before anything...
"For other, more normal reasons" had me rolling
Small correction, in the video you mentioned 50km^2 being occupied by ukraine, this is actually aprox. 500km^2
3:55
F16: Actual picture of an F16
Artillery: Text says "Leopard Tanks" (not an artillery piece) but the picture is very clearly a T series tank, very probably a T-64.
Incorrect, Ukraine is just having a special military operation.
The special military operation in Ukraine involves the Russians giving them some space in Russia to train just like Ukraine gave them space in Ukraine, it’s just a friendly war to train both of the militaries and they the lie of it being serious to convince nato states to support them, it’s all a big scam /s
I like TLDR on RUclips better than on Nebula, as there the TLDR videos finish quite abruptly.
1:44 “..for other, more normal reasons.” 🤣
I haven't seen any reports of them using F-16s.
Because its impossible to know… Ukraine can use F-16s from hundreds of KM away which makes it very hard to know if Ukraine is using the F-16s or not.
They don't use F-16s close to the russian border. At least not for a while.
They are afraid that they will be shot down and taken by russia. Not only ukraine but also the countries that supplied them.
@@casper6014 or maybe they cant fly them at this time bcs they dont know how they sended some pilots to the UK to learn about it you cant pss from old SU 27 to an F16
@@Elwsso The F-16 pilots have been training for over a year and a half.
Now Russia has had 2 Kursk disasters, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.
What was the first?
@@maximilianodelrioI was actually just listening to a podcast about it today. Basically a submarine sank and over a hundred people died. This happened early on in Putin's leadership
@@vincentterraneo263 oh right, I forgot about that.
As a Polish person im tired of all this sht. It was meant to be left in the past. I am just living my life, why do I have to think about Eastern European dictators like my grandparents
I don't understand why "zh" and "dzh" combination is so hard to get by English speakers. You have a letter 'j' and sometimes similar sounding 'g'. Su"dzh"a is just pronounced like Suja. then you just have to remove "d" sound from J when you have only "zh" and you have the right sound
Or there is another example of 'zh' sound in "pleasure". And 'dzh' is the same as in 'joker'.
@@-svet-ka- yeah, exactly
Me as a cyrilyc alphabet user feel so upset when they can't pronounce "ДЖ".
I guess they think that it is Sud-zh-a instead of Su-dzh-a. English not a language where every letter gives one certain sound or there is a certain adamant fonetic law, so I guess seeing foreign word makes them apply weird ways of pronouncing combination of sounds anyway instead of just pronouncing word the way its written(step by step).
I've seen Americans that can not pronounce "kamehameha" properly, which is weird, cause it is quite easy structured word to follow.
@@sahaakhiyat3703 I'm bulgarian who is working in UK, still to this day, they can't pronounce my name Петър/Petar correctly. Maybe because they don't have "Ъ".
I feel like my brain is rotting from this video and comments on it
Europe must rid itself of American political restrictions...we should not remain hostages to US interior politics. Europe need to have an independent military ability.
This whole conflict was started because of US involvement and imperial interference in eastern europe, just like the whole kosovo debacle.
Russian bots have been quiet after this
There's one right above your comment lol
@@cleene not on my screen xd
@@sticks_studiosHQ if you sort by new
Ukraine: 👏
Russia: 🤡
Before this, Ukraine was slowly retreating. Oh sorry, I mean advancing backwards.
@@CCCPRusRusRUS RUS ZOV RUS PUTEN ZOV SVO 😂😂😂
@@rewqnet I question your mental insanity with this response.
@@CCCPRusRus i question yours judging on your comments lol russki
@@rewqnet Says the guy that just said random things as responses
For the latest updates don’t Google ‘War in Ukraine’ instead ‘War in Russia’
The offensives also serve the purpose of giving Russia a dilemme; let the raids continue and focus on the east, or reinforce the north and lessen offensives in the east. It takes away the Russian luxury of not having to garrison the north as heavily at no cost or risk.
Putin is making Russia multi-ethnic? That's a weird take, considering it's been multi-ethnic for its entire history.
While Russia may not have much left up its sleeve for a conventional escalation, it has vast stockpiles of chemical (and likely biological) weapons it could turn to. It would be a dramatic escalation, with a lot of risk attached, but it would be effective.
So I guess Russia is the second best army in Russia now too ?
Total BS about F16
They are not used in this operation at all. So far only as anti-aircraft defense.
I will wait to see how this ages.
I think people will apply double standards and act as this is ok
Well it is war. As long as Ukraine does not do any warcrimes against the local population and declares it it’s own territory, it’s legal.
Part of me wonder if this attack was meant to test out the new F-16, embarrass Russia and most importantly capture a nuclear reactor near the boarder. I say this because there is a Ukraine Nuclear reactor which Russia holds and no one wants to fight in/around that. So Ukraine may offer a swap, one reactor for another.
title is a little bit misleading as it feels like Kursk City is indeed occupied
Yeah, occupied by a dictator and his oligarch cronies.
Putin to one of his Generals: "How is the offensiv in Donbass going?"
General: "You mean the defence of Kursk?"
Putin: "What?"
General: "What?"
Second battle of Kursk before gta 6
Why everyone showing maps looking like half of Russia has been captured. Ukraine barely crossed the border.
It's Ukrainian Armed Forces.
I don't doubt that Russian volunteer detachments provided intelligence, but volunteer units don't have access to the armour, armour variants, and troop movers that have been spotted in engagements with Russian elements.
Nor the reasons why so many Russian elements capitulated so quickly, nor how they were so easily able to occupy slabs of the Russian countryside.
And by all metrics for what it's cost Ukrainian forces so far, it's been an undeniable success. Especially when so few forces would have been spent for far less ground on domestic fronts.
It's 'risky', but the Ukrainians needed to send a message to the Russians that their troops are battle-conditioned, cohesive, unified and capable of inflicting strategic inputs of damages on the Russians ... if they don't properly defend their borders. And by doing as such, the Russians have halted most of their meat grinder bite and hold antics in Ukraine in favour of pulling forces out of Donbas to re-org elsewhere.
This is precisely what Ukrainians should have been doing in the past before the bulk of Russian forces were allowed to dig in on Ukrainian soil.
Hindsight is 2020.... and will be 2024 soon enough.
So they needed to do this meanwhile their frotn is collapsing? Whats that logci? Ukraien is losing, so they need to do pr stunts from time to time.
@@attilamarics3374 Because it's there and it was undefended.
It comes down to force metrics. A few thousand additional soldiers in an established defensive position against a force superior opposition will not inflict the same casualties, nor gain or defend as much ground, as being able to leverage a greater force multiplicity of combined assets against a smaller enemy force elsewhere.
Particularly if, as was the case in the Kursk oblast, that the Russian guard units were depopulated of personnel and lacked the artillery and armour that was redirected to service Russian attacks on the Donbas salient.
Not only that, but by forcing the Russian Federation to have to redirect elements of their force strength elsewhere to shore up defensive lines that the enemy has exploited, you decrease opposition strength elsewhere.
If the Russians allow the Ukrainian element to dig in, or worst case scenario further extend their control into a core periphery of the Russian Federation in the face of the collapse of Russian guard units, they'll also inflict additional casualties on Russian elements when they inevitably have to retake it.
This is also a fundamental element of deciding where the enemy has to fight. Not simply being in a perpetually defensive posture.
If you have tens of thousands of soldiers one place, shoring up the defence of a few more thousand isn't going to achieve the same effect as taking that thousand and staging an attack where the enemy has a force strength and force capability thoroughly far less than what force you can use to uproot and disperse them.
If the Ukrainians aren't going to gamble on targets of opportunity when they so temptingly avail themselves, then not only will the defence of Ukraine suffer--So will the morale and trust in leadership.
@@adelahogarth2761 Russia wont redirect resources from the Donbas front, come on. You arent serious. Also, they took high casualties to even enter Russia. You cna fidn telegram videos of convoys even iskandered to dust.
Thats a cope comment. Dont humiliate yourself.
@@attilamarics3374 "High casualties" being, what exactly?
The fact of the matter is I'm not privy to Ukraine's defence ministry after-action reports. And unless you are, you won't have an idea either.
What I do know is they've taken more ground in such a short amount of time than any force has since this idiotic war started. From my count from images I've seen, I can think of three tanks and IFVs that have either been immobilised, critically damaged or destroyed (bit hard to tell from exclusively aerial footage).
Now that number is going to obviously be higher as time goes on, but frankly if any attack was only considered on the basis of zero loss of personnel or materiel then there's never going to be an attack, is there?
Seems pretty successful to me. And Russians aren't going to bother reinforcing the area, then you're talking roughly 400,000 Russians displaced without hopes of return in Kursk and its surrounding population centres alone.
And given that as soon as the attack happened, and the full scale of just what breaches were happening became an undeniable event--Suddenly total Russian bite and hold attacks on the Donbas salient decreased.
Now I've got my doubts Putin or Gerasimov is going to just let Ukrainians turn a Russian oblast into a fortress.
I have to imagine the concern of a Trump presidency affected the timing of this to avoid Trump also “negotiating” for “current” borders
yeah that makes the most sense to me too. being forced into negotiations while you do not control any assets to negotiate with couldnt have ended well, there are reports that they are already digging in by sudza, consolidating gains. the plan seems to be to not leave any time soon
The likelihood of a Trump presidency is dwindling by the day
@@Nathan_Yahoo The reports are that small teams are hiding in forests, not that they are consolidating. come on...
@@attilamarics3374Reports from who? The voices in your head?
@@blazunlimited Ukrianian war maps.
When I post a true intelligent comment it is removed, just blustering stupid comments are allowed that is readily ignored.
Anyone posting inconvenient facts gets censored.
Welcome to youtube, brother, it's a place where piggies make poop content for other piggies to consume and call this independent journalism😂
RUclips tends too nuke some comments just cause it can
I think Putin is at the stage now of just wanting to wake up from a bad dream on February 23, 2022 :D
The "find out" phase of FAFO.
The gas station & NPP...surprised not mentioned...as i understand, UAF already holding gas station...
@@dennistate5953 that's the very sensitive topic for western media to discuss. Russians are not very open about thar either. That's always a sign that something important is here.
Quality journalism as is😂
@@dennistate5953 they just deleted my comment about the gas line...
Not only was your information immediately out of date, your descriptions were incorrect, and I forgot the other thing already but dud I was livid.
It was not UA that went after Belgorod. Currently the F16 are not flying OVER Rus territory,... that was the whole thing about radar capability and range, why they wanted the system.
Fuck.
I'm done w/ TLDR.
Late late late! You should have really waited to properly cover the story.
- There is NO ambiguity, Ukrainian troops are participating in this operation
- Pentagon has given the go-ahead to use any US equipment in this operation
The Pentagon had no idea what Ukraine was planning. Their current statement is essentially "this isnt oir fault, we had no idea they were planning this, but we wont stop them either", so im not sure about the go-ahead
Anti putin Russians asked help from Ukraine, and Ukraine says yes. that strategy is not putin exclusive. And Ukraine needs buffer zone
@@kealeradecal6091 Thats nonsense.
@@attilamarics3374Russian blt
FYI, a Leopard tank (or any other type of tank for that matter) is classified as 'armour', not 'artillery'.
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Title is a clickbait and dishonest reporting. Kursk is a city of 450 000 people, 100 km from Ukrainian border. Ukrainians are not remotely close to occupying this city. Nor they are remotely close to occupying Kursk oblast. They broke through Russians defensive lines in Kursk oblast, its very deifferent to occupying Kursk. I believed TLDR to be better, this clickbait and lie is massive disappointment.
What do you expect? This is just a leftist semi tabloidic talking point channel. It isn't a verified unbiased source.