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00:01 Converting regular expressions to equivalent finite automata 01:11 Conversion of Regular Expression to Finite Automata - Examples (Part 1) 02:12 Conversion of Regular Expression to Finite Automata - Examples (Part 1) 03:20 Conversion of Regular Expression to Finite Automata - Examples (Part 1) 04:23 Finite Automata accepts strings based on the given regular expression 05:30 Design finite automaton for a BC closure 06:41 Finite Automata Closure 07:47 Conversion of Regular Expression to Finite Automata Crafted by Merlin AI.
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for question 3. if you have string ac or ab as there is star over bc, so one can pick any number of b or any number of c, so by doing that we won't reach the final state?
@@arshitaanchaliya1583 when a self loop is given to B for b,c, when b is given self loop happens ab when c is given self loop happens abc will work na?
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To my little knowledge , in finite automata every state and transition should be determined, as there is no trap state after the final state so its more of an NFA.
I know it's been 2 years but could you elaborate more? Here, there are no epsilon-transitions and no two identically labeled transitions out of the same state. So, it is fine with the definition of DFA.
in 3rd example if input given is only a then it goes to final state but according to regular expression it should go to final state only if input is like abc abcbc abcbc..... please explain if my doubt is correct.
The difference lies in the rules for it. DFA cannot have two different transitions on the same symbol from a state or a null transition, but NFA can. We ought to implement a deterministic machine and so every NFA must be converted to DFA before implementation (physically). So design perspective they are different because of the transitions that are allowed.
@@suvenduhatua_1754 I don't think i understand your question because i've lost context. Any case, here's my understanding of the question. For the third question in the video, you are proposing a state A and a state B. State A transitions to state B on input 'a', and state B self loops on the inputs 'b', or 'c'? You then propose B as the terminal state. Is this understanding correct? If so, then it has a clear disproof. Your automaton would accept input ab, which it should not.
Hello Scald Box,if it is (a+b)c,means there is a path from one state to another by a or b and then we can reach to next state by c,that means (a or b) followed by c
There is no keypoints for how to solve those sums ...he just solved the particular sums ...there is no subject foro how to solve any problem in regular expression..
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Thank you so much for this. My lecturer makes the material super confusing and while the textbook(Hopcroft) is good, it's really wordy and takes forever to get to the working knowledge, given that it uses proofs to introduce new concepts. This is perfect.
I'm jealous that you've long been done with this course haha
This video has a pretty good quality to show the very basic steps on how to do it with good explanation. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! =)
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00:01 Converting regular expressions to equivalent finite automata
01:11 Conversion of Regular Expression to Finite Automata - Examples (Part 1)
02:12 Conversion of Regular Expression to Finite Automata - Examples (Part 1)
03:20 Conversion of Regular Expression to Finite Automata - Examples (Part 1)
04:23 Finite Automata accepts strings based on the given regular expression
05:30 Design finite automaton for a BC closure
06:41 Finite Automata Closure
07:47 Conversion of Regular Expression to Finite Automata
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Thank you very much. I'm having trouble understanding regular expression in automata
Awesome,for the last one I made only two states,it still worked
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for question 3. if you have string ac or ab as there is star over bc, so one can pick any number of b or any number of c, so by doing that we won't reach the final state?
We won't reach final like that as we always need 'b' and 'c' together and also at the end of the string.
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for a(bc)* can we return both bc to final state b instead of another state c?
same doubt
I was thinging that too.
Bc we should make one transition fir B and another for C
I think no because if u make b,c on b only it means that it accept the string abbb, ACCC, also but here we have bc repeating not b or c ....
@@arshitaanchaliya1583 when a self loop is given to B for b,c, when b is given self loop happens ab when c is given self loop happens abc will work na?
good explanation sir
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ee bc bc bc bc😂😂😂😂..... I started laughing in the library lol
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in the third question can we add a self loop to b for inputs b,c instead ?
I did the samee and it make more sence cause b ans c should be togheter not like he did but im not sure if its right
nope, in that case, after 'a' if you only read 'b', it ends up at a final state though "ab" is not an accepted string
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Sir ,Is there no need to show the dead state or trap state in making the dfa of these examples
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To my little knowledge , in finite automata every state and transition should be determined, as there is no trap state after the final state so its more of an NFA.
That's for DFA. In the qn it was just mentioned FA. DFA and NFA are both FA
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Sir please make a video about Regular expression to Epsilon NFA Conversion, thankyou
Worth noting that none of these conversions were to DFA's. All the conversions were to NFA's.
I know it's been 2 years but could you elaborate more? Here, there are no epsilon-transitions and no two identically labeled transitions out of the same state. So, it is fine with the definition of DFA.
@@tavasoli no a DFA has to have all the inputs and their outputs which means all the state has to have all the inputs
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in 3rd example if input given is only a then it goes to final state but according to regular expression it should go to final state only if input is like abc abcbc abcbc..... please explain if my doubt is correct.
a is also a valid expression since it is (bc)* so it can be epsilon as well so a or a followed by any number of (bc)
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In the 2nd example,string aac is also accepted right?Then how is that correct?
The string "aac" will not be accepted. (a+b) means either a or b will be read before 'c'..... It will read only one from 'a' and 'b'
on c part bc can produce lamda right ?
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Is there a diffrence between NFA and DFA regarding their automata design ? Is there any video related to that with examples? Thanks in advance
The difference lies in the rules for it. DFA cannot have two different transitions on the same symbol from a state or a null transition, but NFA can. We ought to implement a deterministic machine and so every NFA must be converted to DFA before implementation (physically). So design perspective they are different because of the transitions that are allowed.
sir in 3rd part why didn't you go for more than 3bc's?
for closure in last example, do we need to give a self loop sir
for the 2nd example (a+c)b why is the + operator considered or rather than one or more 'a'?
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can anyone tell me briefly what is the useage of this? I just learn it from my university but don´t know still what does it imply
Are we converting it into nfa
Because we are not showing all transitions?
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Sir can't we put the self loop for final state in the example 3
We can't as if we end the string with a 'b' that string would still get accepted which is wrong
As we know that for n, no. Of input alphabet there are nth no. Of ways from one state to another
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Design DFA over an alphabet = (a,b), so every string accepted must end with
'aa,bb,aba'
Please solve the question
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In 3rd example at B state we can loop bc?
for RE 2 why "abbc" is not accepted by that machine?
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construct a nfa-epsilon either a or abb or a* b+
Sir can you solve it
what is the fa if the expression is like "a/b"
please explain this
can't the third case can be done with the help of two state as 2nd state having loop
got it concatenation introduce a new state
If (a+b) is a or b , then what does (a|b) means ?
in 3rd example. can't we self loop on state b with b,c ?
Arjun Manoj same doubt
No, you can't use a self loop with b, c as b,c stands for b+c. In this case, there is a concatenation of b and c(b.c).
No, that would accept the string 'ab' for instance.
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Self loop will accept these strings: abcc, abbc, abcbbc, .... so on. The point is that, self loop can't impose the sequence b->c
Why we don't use self loop for bs in a(bc)*
I won't be a dfa
why we didnt apply the loop to bc?in last example
Can u solve this solution (11+110)*0
Very tough
My doubt is Can we take a self loop over state B as (bc) as one input
Because we have (bc)* , so we can do it ?????????? Reply PLease
the alphabet doesn't contain bc, only {a,b,c} so you need to keep a new state to transition through
@@RahulMadhavan if i only give b,c as an inputs to State B as a self Loop....then what is the problem???...
Please reply.
@@suvenduhatua_1754 I don't think i understand your question because i've lost context. Any case, here's my understanding of the question.
For the third question in the video, you are proposing a state A and a state B. State A transitions to state B on input 'a', and state B self loops on the inputs 'b', or 'c'? You then propose B as the terminal state. Is this understanding correct?
If so, then it has a clear disproof. Your automaton would accept input ab, which it should not.
sir , is this thompson's construcion method ?
I thought(a+b)c meant, one or more occurrences of 'a' followed by 'b', followed by 'c'
Only if the '+' is superscript. At least, in the context of this lecture series.
Hello Scald Box,if it is (a+b)c,means there is a path from one state to another by a or b and then we can reach to next state by c,that means (a or b) followed by c
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dont you have to define every state transition over every state? in Q1, you defined over state a only transition 'b'
Its says Finite Automata not Deterministic Finite Automata.
For the second expression if the input is ca thn????
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why cannot we put b,c in self loop to B??
How to take a state as final state
can we have a self loop at B for input a,b?
in q c
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can you self loop B with bc as input?? 3rd example
Buddha_ reincarnated No that will accept ab or ac too.
In third example were is ur self loop for closure?
Close of a concatenation requires (at least) two states.
Where do you get the c from
what does this use for ?
can you please make DFA of my RE which is: a ( ab + b )* bba ( a + b )
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please help creatin dfa for "a*a" or how we can simplify the RE
self loop with input 'a' on state A and out transition with input 'a'-> towards final state B
@@birajpaul4060 That's not a dfa.
@@birajpaul4060 Just the self loop should work.
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write regular expression that derives all strings if a's and b's where every string contains substring ab as substring?
(a+b)^*ab(a+b)^*
Where is prvious lecture
Where r rules for this sir?...in which lecture
prior to this video , #54 video
1st finite automata graph is wrong because there are only one path from A to B not the other path for going a, alphabet fromA to B
if my input became what happen in example one
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Can anyone solve this....(alb)l(ab)*(bla)*(bb)*..... urgent please
2 is incorrect, + means 1 or more times, what if we wanted to put in more than 1 a or b
It is correct
There is no keypoints for how to solve those sums ...he just solved the particular sums ...there is no subject foro how to solve any problem in regular expression..