Arcueid is going to be the talk of the town for awhile here. She's certainly an amazing unit, but I wanted to address whether or not you really had to have her. And like normal the answer is no. She really shines in mixed nodes full of chaoticly aligned enemies, but you'll see her get used simply because her easiest comp is relatively fast. That alone makes her worth having, but again not a gotta roll scenario. Thank you all for watching, I hope you enjoyed the deep dive on her kit and damage comparisons! If you did don't forget to give the video a like and subscribe for more! 👌
So my question is for her is she capable of farming 90++ content and if she is at what np lvl does she need to be to accomplish that? Because I feel like that was a very major thing that was left out of the video because you spent so much time dancing around the whole if I'm going to roll for her "should" I roll for more copies...
It’s possible to add miss crane in the double koyan atlas code setup by placing crane on the front line turn 1 and have her np before ARC and using koyan starbomb. Is this setup better than double koyan and summer ibuki setup?
I've developed a fondness towards ✨Arcueid✨✨ for more than a year now. I've read her route many times in the remake vn. I AM WILLING TO GET her at her peak potential in fgo. I am well aware archetype earth isn't as amazing in gameplay as she should be(according to lore) but if I invest more on her, I can make her a really good neutral buster 3t farmer as she can efficiently and effectively farm with just double vitch + atlas MC (using BG ce for the best dmg scenario). Keeping her gameplay aside, her being in fgo, her being a fanservice is where she really shines. Devs have given her beautiful in-game design, visuals and sound effect aesthetics. Till to this date, she has the highest number of voicelines in-game. Let's cope for the best scenario, I hope those who are going to roll for her, get her at as minimum sq expense as possible.
FYI to this day she never got a new dedicated banner even in JP. That alone can make someone try to at least NP1 her just from a rarity perspective. Compared to say Summer Skadi who gets another banner not that long after her initial one. Even if tomorrow they release a banner for Japan you are still gonna be waiting years to try again assuming you didn’t luck sack into a GSSR. Also the whole “do you NEED this servant?” topic that always gets brought up…unless it’s a premium support servant like Castoria, Koyan Light, Oberon, and Summer Skadi for their respective teams…there isn’t a “You NEED this!” servant. Yes that includes damage dealer servants like upcoming Summer Ibuki that is getting hyped up because end of day she is another arts looper where JP added more of those since then including another good one that is Summer Melu so she is less unique compared to the previous group I mentioned. Anyway Arc is also unique in the sense that additional copies of her actually does way more compared to other servant NP copies since more NP copies doesn’t just increase the base NP damage, but uniquely ALSO boosts the conditional damage amp which usually is stuck on overcharge scaling at best not NP level scaling for other servants. So theoretically (people already did damage charts long ago) a NP5 Arc might as well be a different servant then NP1 Arc since the damage difference is way more night and day difference compared to other NP1 vs NP 5 comparison. I will say if you are rolling for her I would initially shoot for NP2-NP3 if you are not a whale. NP1 hits like a wet noodle with or without damage amp, but another copy or two and her damage is considerable better. End of the day she is also a premium 100% battery servant which is great in certain team builds in general for certain farm nodes + makes her super BG friendly. That is my personal reason to pull her because even by JP standards there are not that many AoE damage dealer servants with at least a 80% battery (and then you max append) and especially a 100% (most that already do are via Rapid casting, but those are usually casters not the ideal damage dealers to begin with). Allows for more flexible comps compared to the 50% and under battery characters That said overall for Summer/Ani I would rank my priority Summer Skadi >>>>> Merlin Proto >>>>> Summer Ibuki (if you’re not pulling multiple copies of Arc) = Arc (if you are pulling multiple copies).
The only (probably impossible) scenario worth for me is gettinh Arcueid early because i want Skadi on summer and i don't want to roll all my SQ on her in the anniversary
If they were to give her a buff in any sort of way. Please, just allow her to give herself that extra 30% from her 3rd skill. Melusine has a 130% battery as well. It wouldn't be crazy to say Arcueid could do the same thing
That, or I'm just holding out hope for an NP upgrade when she comes back on JP that does the Ozy thing and reduces all her skill cooldowns by 1 whenever you NP. Lorewise Arcueid >>>> Melusine anyways.
they were so scared of making another Melusine that they put a restriction of her 3rd skill completely forgetting that Moon Cancer is a really bad class
Dont remember her appearing at carnival tho, and last time I have rewatched it was this year. Btw for me it is, "Hey! its that girl from mbaa who I have used for at least 40-50 hours, tho she wasnt quite at level of my main."
@@amai2307Arceuid Brunestud is a princess of the True Ancestors, and another name for her is Archetype Earth, as she is also a supremely powerful being who is the "archetype" or brain of the Earth. Hence, Archetype Earth. This is a very simplified explanation for anyone who mistakenly believes your comment without fact checking.
Considering she’s the latest 5* moon cancer to be released and she has yet to get a rerun I feel like getting her NP2 will be good enough to actually use her with MLB BG Then my other thought process is since I have bb and van gogh my moon cancer doesn’t need np levels to do good damage on top of summer coming up with SIbuki/SSkadi and Lady Avalon I might just use anniversary as free sq for summer lol
I hope I'll get her, even though I don't really need her that much (since I already have Summer BB). I hope my 80 or so Max-Ascension Servants give me enough Pulls for her. I'm getting her for redundancy.
Slowly but surely ani is approaching. I plan on putting her to good work. And spend alot of quartz on at least getting her to np2. Just a remind on jp you could get up to over 1k sq during it
I didin't read Tsukihike and I don't plan to, however I will pull for the vamp cause of her design, I like the mechanic of setting your terrain with the np (even if it's functionally the same as something like Zhang jue or Maou's first the visual make the difference) and of course, the fomo
Would have loved to see her compared to Melusine as well. I'm still very torn on wether I should roll on her. I don't really want to waste a lot of SQ on a unit that does next to nothing for my account, but she is kinda cute, can't deny that.
@@DarkSeraph thanks, good luck on your rolls as well. My account is not insane, but I've covered pretty much most of the farming servants I need and I have the good supports. I just hope its good enough for 90++, but I don't think Arcuid is a very good 90++ farmer
which appended skill should be prioritized given her kit, I find the 2nd starting np not as useful if running a double koyansak or equivalent 3 turn farming, should her first apend skill be the first one for extra atk effectiveness or give her a foregner adv quirk?
Is Koyanskaya the best 50% charge support for her in a double Oberon setup? Since you aren't relying on cooldowns, anyone who can donate 40% charge should be able to work with maxed mana loading. Are there other supports that can offer more damage than Koyanskaya?
The normal NP column shows her damage with her skill 3 debuffs but without her supereffective niche while the brackets show her damage if her debuffs fail. For the "enchanted" column, if her supereffective niche would fail as the stacks she applies are also considered a debuff, then her damage would be that of the normal non-bracket damage. An easy way to think about it is this: Brackets: Normal damage with no debuffs (they failed to land) Normal: Normal damage with skill 3 debuffs Enchanted: Supereffective with skill 3 debuffs Hope that makes it a little clearer.
Nothing about her really interests me. Even Tsukihime-wise, I prefer glasses-girls. Summer's where it's at since Ferlin is the only one with meaningful gameplay improvement for me. I'll yolo a multi, but maybe I'll wait for her Zerk version.
@@Dorrovian Yeah, but I prefer Ciel's design. We also share a love of curry, although hers is *much* more than mine. Honestly, I'd probably be interested if only they kept the hair short throughout her ascensions.
@@crypto66 Well, they cannot really keep her hair short, as short hair is specifically Arcueid, not Archetype Earth/True Ancestor Princess thing because of lore. But outside of that, you do you! I hope Ciel will one day come to game :)
@@Dorrovian That's why I'm more interested in her potential Zerk form, since it has an excuse to keep the bobcut. Maybe it could even be a welfare, like Shiki's deal.
Just admit you don't know about FGO and making an ignorant comment to upset people even at NP1 her damage is great because she can use black grail as a buster farmer next time you wanna speak make sure you know what you are talking about so you don't look stupid I have both servants you speak of and you can't be more wrong lmao@@CB-kf9up
Arcueid is going to be the talk of the town for awhile here. She's certainly an amazing unit, but I wanted to address whether or not you really had to have her. And like normal the answer is no. She really shines in mixed nodes full of chaoticly aligned enemies, but you'll see her get used simply because her easiest comp is relatively fast. That alone makes her worth having, but again not a gotta roll scenario. Thank you all for watching, I hope you enjoyed the deep dive on her kit and damage comparisons! If you did don't forget to give the video a like and subscribe for more! 👌
Answer is no, for you need NP3+ to make the attacks effective, save for Skadi?
So my question is for her is she capable of farming 90++ content and if she is at what np lvl does she need to be to accomplish that? Because I feel like that was a very major thing that was left out of the video because you spent so much time dancing around the whole if I'm going to roll for her "should" I roll for more copies...
It’s possible to add miss crane in the double koyan atlas code setup by placing crane on the front line turn 1 and have her np before ARC and using koyan starbomb. Is this setup better than double koyan and summer ibuki setup?
As an OG Type Moon shill I have no agency in this scenario. Just like with Void Shiki I must roll and I must roll hard.
Agreed and good luck!
I pressed the thumbs-up so hard, my phone screen cracked.
Good luck!
Ah, i see you're from the old school Type-moon fans as well... Truly cultured one.
Same here I've been waiting for her to come to NA since her JP release.
I've developed a fondness towards ✨Arcueid✨✨ for more than a year now. I've read her route many times in the remake vn. I AM WILLING TO GET her at her peak potential in fgo. I am well aware archetype earth isn't as amazing in gameplay as she should be(according to lore) but if I invest more on her, I can make her a really good neutral buster 3t farmer as she can efficiently and effectively farm with just double vitch + atlas MC (using BG ce for the best dmg scenario). Keeping her gameplay aside, her being in fgo, her being a fanservice is where she really shines. Devs have given her beautiful in-game design, visuals and sound effect aesthetics. Till to this date, she has the highest number of voicelines in-game.
Let's cope for the best scenario, I hope those who are going to roll for her, get her at as minimum sq expense as possible.
Update?
@@aroperdope np6 120
@@scares3859 Sookie Sookie
FYI to this day she never got a new dedicated banner even in JP. That alone can make someone try to at least NP1 her just from a rarity perspective. Compared to say Summer Skadi who gets another banner not that long after her initial one. Even if tomorrow they release a banner for Japan you are still gonna be waiting years to try again assuming you didn’t luck sack into a GSSR.
Also the whole “do you NEED this servant?” topic that always gets brought up…unless it’s a premium support servant like Castoria, Koyan Light, Oberon, and Summer Skadi for their respective teams…there isn’t a “You NEED this!” servant. Yes that includes damage dealer servants like upcoming Summer Ibuki that is getting hyped up because end of day she is another arts looper where JP added more of those since then including another good one that is Summer Melu so she is less unique compared to the previous group I mentioned.
Anyway Arc is also unique in the sense that additional copies of her actually does way more compared to other servant NP copies since more NP copies doesn’t just increase the base NP damage, but uniquely ALSO boosts the conditional damage amp which usually is stuck on overcharge scaling at best not NP level scaling for other servants. So theoretically (people already did damage charts long ago) a NP5 Arc might as well be a different servant then NP1 Arc since the damage difference is way more night and day difference compared to other NP1 vs NP 5 comparison.
I will say if you are rolling for her I would initially shoot for NP2-NP3 if you are not a whale. NP1 hits like a wet noodle with or without damage amp, but another copy or two and her damage is considerable better.
End of the day she is also a premium 100% battery servant which is great in certain team builds in general for certain farm nodes + makes her super BG friendly. That is my personal reason to pull her because even by JP standards there are not that many AoE damage dealer servants with at least a 80% battery (and then you max append) and especially a 100% (most that already do are via Rapid casting, but those are usually casters not the ideal damage dealers to begin with). Allows for more flexible comps compared to the 50% and under battery characters
That said overall for Summer/Ani I would rank my priority
Summer Skadi >>>>> Merlin Proto >>>>> Summer Ibuki (if you’re not pulling multiple copies of Arc) = Arc (if you are pulling multiple copies).
Funny thing, our priorities are almost exact opposite :D Mine is Arcueid >>> S. Ibuki > Lady Avalon >>> S. Skadi XD
The analysis is pretty spot on, but I must admit I'm curious; is she in you're Chaldea?
The only (probably impossible) scenario worth for me is gettinh Arcueid early because i want Skadi on summer and i don't want to roll all my SQ on her in the anniversary
She is one of my very few np5 120 2k fou targets. I've been saving since Oberon dropped and my sq is ready.
Good luck
Funny Vamp gang rejoice!
Been stacking up my embers too
@@anonnimoose7987 I have over 1k 5* embers lol
Would be nice if passive ramped up 30% -> 40% -> 50%, dependin on field stacks active at the moment.
that okitan art is prefection *_chef's_*_ _*_kiss_*
also been waiting for arc for a year now xD
update: I got her on the 2nd multi, lucky me
If they were to give her a buff in any sort of way. Please, just allow her to give herself that extra 30% from her 3rd skill. Melusine has a 130% battery as well. It wouldn't be crazy to say Arcueid could do the same thing
That, or I'm just holding out hope for an NP upgrade when she comes back on JP that does the Ozy thing and reduces all her skill cooldowns by 1 whenever you NP. Lorewise Arcueid >>>> Melusine anyways.
Nah Dragon Loli is always better@@dark_rit(simp lore)
they were so scared of making another Melusine that they put a restriction of her 3rd skill completely forgetting that Moon Cancer is a really bad class
I've waited for this for like almost a year,my sq is ready,really want her for her np theme and she is Arcueid
I'm rolling cause I want to complete all type-moon heroines❤
have you guy's ever thought about a large amount of ppl (like me)
who knows her as "HEY! its that girl from carnival phantasm!"
bizarre right?
Dont remember her appearing at carnival tho, and last time I have rewatched it was this year.
Btw for me it is, "Hey! its that girl from mbaa who I have used for at least 40-50 hours, tho she wasnt quite at level of my main."
@@amai2307 Carnival Phantasm, not FGO Great Carnival. Maybe you missed her cause you're talking about a different Carnival series.
@@ahind1234 yes, carnival phantasm. I think you can be confusing archetype earth and arcued, it is two different characters.
@@amai2307 They're not different characters. Archetype Earth also known as Arcueid Brunestud. You can check up Typemoon wiki. Or Tsukihime lore
@@amai2307Arceuid Brunestud is a princess of the True Ancestors, and another name for her is Archetype Earth, as she is also a supremely powerful being who is the "archetype" or brain of the Earth. Hence, Archetype Earth. This is a very simplified explanation for anyone who mistakenly believes your comment without fact checking.
Miss Crane fits into the Atlas comp decently.
Considering she’s the latest 5* moon cancer to be released and she has yet to get a rerun I feel like getting her NP2 will be good enough to actually use her with MLB BG Then my other thought process is since I have bb and van gogh my moon cancer doesn’t need np levels to do good damage on top of summer coming up with SIbuki/SSkadi and Lady Avalon I might just use anniversary as free sq for summer lol
I'd say NP3
I think I'll be passing on Arcueid to focus on Lady Avalon and Summer Skadi. My NP5 120lvl 2k Fou'd Spishtar agrees.
My predictions for next year's anniversary for jp is NekoArc will be brought to FGO
13:56 no dip, thats why you bring double obie on a black grail and climax every time that np hits
I hope I'll get her, even though I don't really need her that much (since I already have Summer BB). I hope my 80 or so Max-Ascension Servants give me enough Pulls for her. I'm getting her for redundancy.
Slowly but surely ani is approaching. I plan on putting her to good work. And spend alot of quartz on at least getting her to np2. Just a remind on jp you could get up to over 1k sq during it
I didin't read Tsukihike and I don't plan to, however I will pull for the vamp cause of her design, I like the mechanic of setting your terrain with the np (even if it's functionally the same as something like Zhang jue or Maou's first the visual make the difference) and of course, the fomo
Would have loved to see her compared to Melusine as well.
I'm still very torn on wether I should roll on her. I don't really want to waste a lot of SQ on a unit that does next to nothing for my account, but she is kinda cute, can't deny that.
If you want her you're going to need NP2 or 3 to get good looping damage.
@@DarkSeraph I already have a few blackgrail loopers, I'm not gonna waste SQ for that, I don't like her that much
@@darksteelmenace595Then you're good you don't need her, also good luck on your rolls.
@@DarkSeraph thanks, good luck on your rolls as well. My account is not insane, but I've covered pretty much most of the farming servants I need and I have the good supports. I just hope its good enough for 90++, but I don't think Arcuid is a very good 90++ farmer
20 Tickets and around 200 sq and nothing from her.
A other only needed 60 sq.
And i have other servants, who are more important (np5 Summer kama)
Got her at NP5, 9/10/9, lvl 90, using double Koyan of light, with 1 copy of black grail and I’m cracking 700K+
I have her as NP2. She hits like a wet noodle unfortunately. Skip her if you're also thinking of pulling for this year's summer servants.
I will throw a multi and thats it. Summer is taking my funds not this. Even fomo wont save her. She really needs a buff, those skills are just sad.
which appended skill should be prioritized given her kit, I find the 2nd starting np not as useful if running a double koyansak or equivalent 3 turn farming, should her first apend skill be the first one for extra atk effectiveness or give her a foregner adv quirk?
You want append 5. It lets her loop properly.
Well, you know what y,all
I rather have her than not need her
I didn't know Caren can loop lol
Oh she was Übel in Frieren, I might have to roll for her.
Her VA has voiced many other beautiful female characters including Lena from 86
@@scares3859 I looked up her voice acting; history. Damn my tickets are in danger!
What command codes should I run on her?
NP damage work well on her
@@wv77m Thanks! Got her NP6 120, 2/3 append skills and am giving her paws now.
@@covfefe5884 Congrats! thats one strong Arc!
Is Koyanskaya the best 50% charge support for her in a double Oberon setup? Since you aren't relying on cooldowns, anyone who can donate 40% charge should be able to work with maxed mana loading. Are there other supports that can offer more damage than Koyanskaya?
The only servant that otherwise gives a big buster damage increase is Merlin and he unfortunately only gives a +20% np battery...
Is np2 good enough?
Most important question is MLB Black Grail.
@@Dorrovian yes i have 2 mlbs :p
obligatory joke about 17 parts.
What are the brackets for summer Kiara?
I assume it’s if Kiara’s skills “level up”
The normal NP column shows her damage with her skill 3 debuffs but without her supereffective niche while the brackets show her damage if her debuffs fail. For the "enchanted" column, if her supereffective niche would fail as the stacks she applies are also considered a debuff, then her damage would be that of the normal non-bracket damage.
An easy way to think about it is this:
Brackets: Normal damage with no debuffs (they failed to land)
Normal: Normal damage with skill 3 debuffs
Enchanted: Supereffective with skill 3 debuffs
Hope that makes it a little clearer.
I was planning on saving for Lady Avalon, but if she is that rare and never coming back perhaps I should grab her instead?
If you have Caster Artoria/Altria you don't need Lady Avalon
@@DarkSeraph I don't have a Castoria, so I'm still planning on getting Proto Merlin.
Skadi and ibuki supremacy.
Does anyone in know sauce for Majin art?
Khad lists art credits in the info box.
4 big copies, I think im set
She's good alright, just underwhelming class
Nothing about her really interests me. Even Tsukihime-wise, I prefer glasses-girls. Summer's where it's at since Ferlin is the only one with meaningful gameplay improvement for me. I'll yolo a multi, but maybe I'll wait for her Zerk version.
Google Arcueid and glasses, she has official art in different glasses ;)
@@Dorrovian Yeah, but I prefer Ciel's design. We also share a love of curry, although hers is *much* more than mine. Honestly, I'd probably be interested if only they kept the hair short throughout her ascensions.
@@crypto66 Well, they cannot really keep her hair short, as short hair is specifically Arcueid, not Archetype Earth/True Ancestor Princess thing because of lore.
But outside of that, you do you! I hope Ciel will one day come to game :)
@@Dorrovian That's why I'm more interested in her potential Zerk form, since it has an excuse to keep the bobcut. Maybe it could even be a welfare, like Shiki's deal.
She needs a buff. She’s pretty mediocre at best and falls of behind quite easily compared to servants released during her time.
Right. Let’s also buff Castoria if we are also talking about buffing servants that are still one of the best used in JP.
Great wave 1 and doors killer but not much else.
so not much else that she's been one of the most used servants on JP for 90++ farming.
At what NP? This charecter is vastly different based on NP levels
@@Zeon081who cares about whale performance, she can't do much at np1-2
unlike Np1 kuku who can do some 90++
Just admit you don't know about FGO and making an ignorant comment to upset people even at NP1 her damage is great because she can use black grail as a buster farmer next time you wanna speak make sure you know what you are talking about so you don't look stupid I have both servants you speak of and you can't be more wrong lmao@@CB-kf9up
@@CB-kf9up examples of Kuku doing 90++ at np1?
I pulled three as a free to play
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