The expedition was actually part of a long series of world-wide magnetic observations culminating in this one, to locate the magnetic pole. In the many searches for Franklin pushed forwards by Lady Franklin, this object became quickly lost in the need for mapping and, in the course of things, the finding of the North West Passage. As this so gripped the British newspapers, Lady Franklin found it convenient to go along with the story, especially as the Admiralty wished to write-off further searches and the Americans found an opportunity.
Not trying to ruin everyone's day.... However the plane shown at 2:40 was a plane flown by my dads friend who tragically dies. Only two survived the crash in the arctic and they where not found for a couple hours in the arctic circle. The instruments failed on V do the runway in a hamlet so there was not much people could do to help them. Luckly the military was doing training and out of that one in a million times they where there. They crashed into the side on a hill ripping the people apart. In loving memory of Dave Blair.
The good news is you did not ruin anyone's day! The plane at the time stamp is a different plane. You are talking about First Air Flight 6560. This plane did not have a painted stripe down its fuselage and had a different much larger image on its tail. See the actual image here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Air_Flight_6560 You are also combining the names of the pilot (captain Blair Rutherford) and the first officer (David Hare). Are you sure your Dad knew these people and you are not mixing up a memory from the TV show "Mayday" who did a dramatization of this in a 2015 - episode "Death in the Arctic", season 14 (2015)?
@@slopothacrop Oh, so sorry bout that mix up..... No my parents where and still are good friends with Dave and his family however his family has since moved down south after the crash..... My dad flew with them.... Thanks for the info.....
to make a story about this and not mention John Rae is astonishing. He found the final link for the northwest passage and what happened to the franklin expedition
John Rae often gets ignored because he didn't fit the stereotype of the conquering Victorian explorer. He worked with the environment & the natives, instead of battling against them. He was also the first to mention cannibalism in the Franklin party. Polite society at the time wasn't ready to hear about that, so Rae was discredited & the Inuit labelled as liars. Of course, we now know that he was right & the Inuit were telling the truth. In the years since this documentary historians have begun to acknowledge Rae for both finding the last link of the Northwest Passage & for discovering the ultimate fate of the Franklin party.
Too bad Franklin didnt leave a note on Beechy island, saying they went down Peel sound. If he did, there might have been survivors. + I read that they had winter quarters on Beechy, and it was a shorter walk to Beechy than to Back fish river🤔
Scotsman and HBC employee John Rae FRS FRGS solved the fate of the Franklin Expedition. He reported back to London with artefacts and proof before anyone else. He was villified by Franklin's widow and even Charles Dickens for reporting the cannibalism the crew had resorted to. John Rae mapped the last section of North American coastline and discovered the North West Passage.
The Wreck of the Fox: The Arctic Legacy of Franklin I guess that's more likely to gather interest than: "The Wreck of the Fox: A Ship That Ran Aground After 50 Years, Was Towed To A Harbour, And Allowed To Slowly Sink Over The Years..." lmao
Not to mention it isn't exactly understood what happened to all of the Franklin men, we only know they disappeared, likely ate each other, and perished.
Mutiny maybe. They say about 20 more men died shortly after Franklin. Maybe that 20 men were officers that agreed with Franklin about something/ an idea of his of which way to go or to stay in the ship and wanted the rest of the men to agree with them but they majority of men disagreed with them and mutinied. So far if i recall correctly we know that the Franklin expedition men that left the ships that had been stuck in ice wrote on notes that Franklin and the 20 ish men died but we don't know what they died of, especially Franklin himself, therefore it could have been the men refusing to carry out an order of his. Maybe he ordered them to stay at the ship for as long as possible but most men got extremely tired and bored and worried their food supply was running out so Franklin would have tried to arm his 20 men to try to stop them from going as they would want supplies to take with them as they hoped to get to safety when leaving the ships. It would account for how they haven't found Franklin's body or the 20 ish men's bodies or how each of them died.
X Thanks for the reply. This story has genuinely captured my interest. The conditions on their own would easily explain the disaster if all previous and following expeditions did not manage to return home.
Well, he was in his 60s, at a time of little to no medical care, having had a life that included near starvation in a prior expedition, in freezing temperatures on a ship known to have scurvy, high lead levels and tuberculosis. Any of the main natural causes (heart attack, pneumonia or other infectious disease, etc.) would be a possibility. It does seem odd they didn’t give even a brief descriptionof cause of death, but maybe that wasn’t the etiquette at the time.
I believe that he, and the men listed by James Fitzjames, died of tuberculosis. The three men buried at Beechey Island were all found to have died from tuberculosis. Because in these programs people often mention the lead levels some people seem to think they died from that. But they did not. Tuberculosis would have been contagious and could have spread to the crew and officers, especially if these people had already started to become vulnerable to scurvy, since the lemon juice they had been sent with could only stay good for a short period of time, which they did not yet realize.
True, that was their ultimate departure point. How many people watching this are going to know where Greenhithe is though? I grew up in Kent & I don't know. I'd hazard a guess at north Kent coast? Somewhere near Broadstairs maybe?
Curiosity got the better of me. I decided to look at where Greenhithe actually is. Just a few miles from... London! You could probably see London from there in the distance, even back in the 1840's, so saying they departed from London is acceptable, unless you're being really, really, really, really, really pedantic.
the FOX? l forgot all about it .. These men were Not the first humans to be in the north,,the writer forgot the eskimos lol... Otherwise I really enjoyed your video. Sadly most Canadian kids haven't got a clue about their own history. Canadian film makers need to come up with a roaring good script that is exciting,with famous actors... Well anyhow thank you
What happend with the entire crew? Looks like Mulder and Scully might have another X-file to investigate So according to the last guy talking, global warming is a good thing. What an "!"#$#$#$$%"#
Depends whether there is global warming or another ice age forthcoming. I have heard and read theories for both... And while almost all of the scientists will agree there is climate change, not all agree on whether mankind has much of a effect. Many Greens target cows for releasing methane gas, but a NASA study implies most of the methane being released into the air is from land fills. Land fills the Greens demanded we build instead of burning our garbage. Keep in mind methane is 50 times more damaging to the atmosphere than carbon dioxide. No wonder so many are opposed to a carbon tax...
The expedition was actually part of a long series of world-wide magnetic observations culminating in this one, to locate the magnetic pole. In the many searches for Franklin pushed forwards by Lady Franklin, this object became quickly lost in the need for mapping and, in the course of things, the finding of the North West Passage. As this so gripped the British newspapers, Lady Franklin found it convenient to go along with the story, especially as the Admiralty wished to write-off further searches and the Americans found an opportunity.
I really enjoyed watching,thank you.
Yeah very interesting about the story of the Fox-I had never heard of it before. Its amazing how successfull it was. Thx.
Not trying to ruin everyone's day.... However the plane shown at 2:40 was a plane flown by my dads friend who tragically dies. Only two survived the crash in the arctic and they where not found for a couple hours in the arctic circle. The instruments failed on V do the runway in a hamlet so there was not much people could do to help them. Luckly the military was doing training and out of that one in a million times they where there. They crashed into the side on a hill ripping the people apart. In loving memory of Dave Blair.
The good news is you did not ruin anyone's day!
The plane at the time stamp is a different plane.
You are talking about First Air Flight 6560. This plane did not have a painted stripe down its fuselage and had a different much larger image on its tail. See the actual image here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Air_Flight_6560
You are also combining the names of the pilot (captain Blair Rutherford) and the first officer (David Hare).
Are you sure your Dad knew these people and you are not mixing up a memory from the TV show "Mayday" who did a dramatization of this in a 2015 - episode "Death in the Arctic", season 14 (2015)?
@@slopothacrop Oh, so sorry bout that mix up..... No my parents where and still are good friends with Dave and his family however his family has since moved down south after the crash..... My dad flew with them.... Thanks for the info.....
@@jacksonbowden8765 What???
to make a story about this and not mention John Rae is astonishing. He found the final link for the northwest passage and what happened to the franklin expedition
John Rae often gets ignored because he didn't fit the stereotype of the conquering Victorian explorer. He worked with the environment & the natives, instead of battling against them. He was also the first to mention cannibalism in the Franklin party. Polite society at the time wasn't ready to hear about that, so Rae was discredited & the Inuit labelled as liars.
Of course, we now know that he was right & the Inuit were telling the truth. In the years since this documentary historians have begun to acknowledge Rae for both finding the last link of the Northwest Passage & for discovering the ultimate fate of the Franklin party.
@@runlarryrun77 I agree. John Rae's enemies and discreditors also made sure he was denied a knighthood and various other laurels throughout his life.
I met Delgado years ago. I used to do some wreck diving in and around Halifax during the eighties.
Cool.
Too bad Franklin didnt leave a note on Beechy island, saying they went down Peel sound.
If he did, there might have been survivors.
+ I read that they had winter quarters on Beechy, and it was a shorter walk to Beechy than to Back fish river🤔
Scotsman and HBC employee John Rae FRS FRGS solved the fate of the Franklin Expedition. He reported back to London with artefacts and proof before anyone else. He was villified by Franklin's widow and even Charles Dickens for reporting the cannibalism the crew had resorted to. John Rae mapped the last section of North American coastline and discovered the North West Passage.
Audio level on this is too low.
The Wreck of the Fox: The Arctic Legacy of Franklin
I guess that's more likely to gather interest than:
"The Wreck of the Fox: A Ship That Ran Aground After 50 Years, Was Towed To A Harbour, And Allowed To Slowly Sink Over The Years..."
lmao
Not to mention it isn't exactly understood what happened to all of the Franklin men, we only know they disappeared, likely ate each other, and perished.
Lol!
WHINGER'S CORNER!
the documentary parts of this are historically inaccurate which is a shame.
Does anyone have anything close to a theory on Franklin's death? No body and 'all is well' no more than two-months before his death?
Mutiny maybe. They say about 20 more men died shortly after Franklin. Maybe that 20 men were officers that agreed with Franklin about something/ an idea of his of which way to go or to stay in the ship and wanted the rest of the men to agree with them but they majority of men disagreed with them and mutinied.
So far if i recall correctly we know that the Franklin expedition men that left the ships that had been stuck in ice wrote on notes that Franklin and the 20 ish men died but we don't know what they died of, especially Franklin himself, therefore it could have been the men refusing to carry out an order of his.
Maybe he ordered them to stay at the ship for as long as possible but most men got extremely tired and bored and worried their food supply was running out so Franklin would have tried to arm his 20 men to try to stop them from going as they would want supplies to take with them as they hoped to get to safety when leaving the ships. It would account for how they haven't found Franklin's body or the 20 ish men's bodies or how each of them died.
X Thanks for the reply. This story has genuinely captured my interest. The conditions on their own would easily explain the disaster if all previous and following expeditions did not manage to return home.
Well, he was in his 60s, at a time of little to no medical care, having had a life that included near starvation in a prior expedition, in freezing temperatures on a ship known to have scurvy, high lead levels and tuberculosis. Any of the main natural causes (heart attack, pneumonia or other infectious disease, etc.) would be a possibility. It does seem odd they didn’t give even a brief descriptionof cause of death, but maybe that wasn’t the etiquette at the time.
Tunnbaq got him
I believe that he, and the men listed by James Fitzjames, died of tuberculosis. The three men buried at Beechey Island were all found to have died from tuberculosis. Because in these programs people often mention the lead levels some people seem to think they died from that. But they did not. Tuberculosis would have been contagious and could have spread to the crew and officers, especially if these people had already started to become vulnerable to scurvy, since the lemon juice they had been sent with could only stay good for a short period of time, which they did not yet realize.
They did not depart london they left from Greenhithe in Kent.
True, that was their ultimate departure point.
How many people watching this are going to know where Greenhithe is though? I grew up in Kent & I don't know. I'd hazard a guess at north Kent coast? Somewhere near Broadstairs maybe?
Curiosity got the better of me. I decided to look at where Greenhithe actually is. Just a few miles from... London! You could probably see London from there in the distance, even back in the 1840's, so saying they departed from London is acceptable, unless you're being really, really, really, really, really pedantic.
The harbor with a mirror ball
the FOX? l forgot all about it .. These men were Not the first humans to be in the north,,the writer forgot the eskimos lol... Otherwise I really enjoyed your video. Sadly most Canadian kids haven't got a clue about their own history. Canadian film makers need to come up with a roaring good script that is exciting,with famous actors... Well anyhow thank you
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Nimitz
What happend with the entire crew?
Looks like Mulder and Scully might have another X-file to investigate
So according to the last guy talking, global warming is a good thing. What an "!"#$#$#$$%"#
Depends whether there is global warming or another ice age forthcoming. I have heard and read theories for both... And while almost all of the scientists will agree there is climate change, not all agree on whether mankind has much of a effect. Many Greens target cows for releasing methane gas, but a NASA study implies most of the methane being released into the air is from land fills. Land fills the Greens demanded we build instead of burning our garbage. Keep in mind methane is 50 times more damaging to the atmosphere than carbon dioxide. No wonder so many are opposed to a carbon tax...
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