Great video thank you! Have never considered the screener trying to draw a foul on the defender last second for free throws. I’ll be cataloguing that one.
Had same thought. White holds and throws. Greg even indicates shot clock reset. Tough to tell who was first to touch but yes. BCV awareness on an odd BVC situation
On Play 2, one of my partners I worked with this season had this play in his game, but he said neither of them ruled it as a violation. They couldn't find it in the rulebook. I was able to assist and showed him.
Play 3, first I was looking for the backcourt violation by white, since white player gained control before the throw behind the back. If white teammate in the backcourt was the first to touch the ball, then I’d have a violation.
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Play 3 - during your explanation you said they came together and called a technical. The ref signaled a common foul at first and then players were lining up during free throws. Did they have a common foul and a technical on top? In this situation would you have recommended only administering a technical foul on that play (no common foul on top of it)?
Hi Grant! On play #3, it appears the official ruled a foul, then realized it was something that needs to be thought through. A "wait a minute" moment. The Player Technical was the only foul ruled on this play. Make sense?
Curious why on Play Three why it wasn't ruled over-n-back? White player running to save the ball from going out of bounds whips behind himself it with his right hand to a player in the backcourt. By virtue of making that play it would seem he has in fact established control of the ball. Whipping to a teammate in the backcourt would appear to make this a violation - way in advance to the foul called.
On the bonus play, check out the elderly spectator with the walker moving at a turtle's pace right on the very edge of the far sideline, seemingly oblivious to the dramatic situation to ensue just as the shooter cuts for the ball. Was this purely a coincidence, or was this a set play with assistance from the "6th Man" to distract the defender? Hmmm.....
On Play 5 (15:40)...tough call but I think I would have gone block instead of charge...but...in this case, shouldn't this have been the lead's call initially since the Center has the on ball defender on the drive to the basket and then the Lead has any secondary defenders?
Team control established by the player grabbing the ball going out of bounds, but who is first to touch in the backcourt. If you judge white to be first to touch, it would be a backcourt violation.
No worries, since there should have been .7...count it :~) Also, this is a good example of why FIBA changed the warm-up direction, so the defence would be in front of their bench in the second half and the table officials would be looking in the same direction instead of having the coach come from behind them if a TO was called.
Play #1: Good call: The defender backs under the white player and a tip is considered a shot attempt. Play #2: Yeah, not sure how this was missed, though I did have a partner at a provincial tournament miss one of these, so I guess it can happen ;~) Play #3:Correct call, this is a player technical, though in FIBA we do not have a specific rule for this; it would just have to fall under sportsmanship and fair play. Play #4: For everyone else in this situation, this is a violation, but there is no penalty for a violation on a teammate during a first FT in FIBA. Since the FT was missed, the violation for occupying the wrong lane spaces would just be ignored, though one of the officials should have noticed they were in the wrong place...take your time and get it right. Play #5: My first question would be why didn't the lead rotate sooner; the ball had obviously settled long enough for the centre to start a 5-count. If he had, then he would have been in the best position to make that call instead of the C. I still think the defender was still moving forward a bit, but this play could have been called either way. Bonus Play: Luckily, the clock stops after a made basket in the last 2 mins of the 4th Q and overtime, so no need for a team to call a TO to stop the clock; however, if a TO was called, then they would have the option of moving the ball to the front court.
For the bonus play, I'm pretty sure you're referring to women's college rules but in high school, I'm pretty sure the clock doesn't stop after a made basket, and no option to advance the ball to front court on a time out.
@@derekthibodeau3814 No, I am referring to FIBA as my other comments would indicate, and yes, the NCAA Women do have some rules that are similar to FIBA.
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That last play rips your heart out like you're playing Texas Hold'em; if you're on the losing team.
Great video thank you! Have never considered the screener trying to draw a foul on the defender last second for free throws. I’ll be cataloguing that one.
On Play 3 - did white control the ball in the frontcourt and then throw the ball into the backcourt? Or did the black team touch first?
Had same thought. White holds and throws. Greg even indicates shot clock reset. Tough to tell who was first to touch but yes. BCV awareness on an odd BVC situation
I thought it was a backcourt violation.
On Play 2, one of my partners I worked with this season had this play in his game, but he said neither of them ruled it as a violation. They couldn't find it in the rulebook. I was able to assist and showed him.
Greg in the house
Saving time this week!!! No Livestream watching this week
It would be great that once the play is discussed, we are shown where to find it in the rule book
Play 1 is holding foul on 23 white he used his arm to hold the defensive player 11 down, helping himself to get to the ball
Play 3 is back court violation on white blue ball
Exactly what I thought but there was much going on in just 3-4 seconds.
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Context: Rule 4-44-4
Thank you!
Play 3, first I was looking for the backcourt violation by white, since white player gained control before the throw behind the back. If white teammate in the backcourt was the first to touch the ball, then I’d have a violation.
What do you think?
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Play 3 - during your explanation you said they came together and called a technical. The ref signaled a common foul at first and then players were lining up during free throws. Did they have a common foul and a technical on top?
In this situation would you have recommended only administering a technical foul on that play (no common foul on top of it)?
Hi Grant! On play #3, it appears the official ruled a foul, then realized it was something that needs to be thought through. A "wait a minute" moment. The Player Technical was the only foul ruled on this play. Make sense?
Curious why on Play Three why it wasn't ruled over-n-back? White player running to save the ball from going out of bounds whips behind himself it with his right hand to a player in the backcourt. By virtue of making that play it would seem he has in fact established control of the ball. Whipping to a teammate in the backcourt would appear to make this a violation - way in advance to the foul called.
On the bonus play, check out the elderly spectator with the walker moving at a turtle's pace right on the very edge of the far sideline, seemingly oblivious to the dramatic situation to ensue just as the shooter cuts for the ball. Was this purely a coincidence, or was this a set play with assistance from the "6th Man" to distract the defender? Hmmm.....
That would be elite planning by the team! LOL
On Play 5 (15:40)...tough call but I think I would have gone block instead of charge...but...in this case, shouldn't this have been the lead's call initially since the Center has the on ball defender on the drive to the basket and then the Lead has any secondary defenders?
If the shot clock reset on white’s save would you have a backcourt violation?
Team control established by the player grabbing the ball going out of bounds, but who is first to touch in the backcourt. If you judge white to be first to touch, it would be a backcourt violation.
Bonus Play: The release took more than .5 seconds!
No worries, since there should have been .7...count it :~) Also, this is a good example of why FIBA changed the warm-up direction, so the defence would be in front of their bench in the second half and the table officials would be looking in the same direction instead of having the coach come from behind them if a TO was called.
If #1 is a shooting foul, then every foul is a shooting foul!
Whaa?
Play #1: Good call: The defender backs under the white player and a tip is considered a shot attempt.
Play #2: Yeah, not sure how this was missed, though I did have a partner at a provincial tournament miss one of these, so I guess it can happen ;~)
Play #3:Correct call, this is a player technical, though in FIBA we do not have a specific rule for this; it would just have to fall under sportsmanship and fair play.
Play #4: For everyone else in this situation, this is a violation, but there is no penalty for a violation on a teammate during a first FT in FIBA. Since the FT was missed, the violation for occupying the wrong lane spaces would just be ignored, though one of the officials should have noticed they were in the wrong place...take your time and get it right.
Play #5: My first question would be why didn't the lead rotate sooner; the ball had obviously settled long enough for the centre to start a 5-count. If he had, then he would have been in the best position to make that call instead of the C. I still think the defender was still moving forward a bit, but this play could have been called either way.
Bonus Play: Luckily, the clock stops after a made basket in the last 2 mins of the 4th Q and overtime, so no need for a team to call a TO to stop the clock; however, if a TO was called, then they would have the option of moving the ball to the front court.
For the bonus play, I'm pretty sure you're referring to women's college rules but in high school, I'm pretty sure the clock doesn't stop after a made basket, and no option to advance the ball to front court on a time out.
@@derekthibodeau3814 No, I am referring to FIBA as my other comments would indicate, and yes, the NCAA Women do have some rules that are similar to FIBA.
Play 1 was obvious foul on the defense by backing into the airborne shooter