Damaged by Gender | A Detrans Story, with Garrett
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Give this man props for being open and honest about such poor handling by the medical field-and an ideology that cares more about feelings that biological reality.
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I remain astonished at how young people can embark on a course of action with irreversible consequences on the basis of two one-hour conversations with a therapist.
It's amazing! I agree. If we could just figure out why.
@@Connie-ty5zb $$$€€€£££maybe🤔
@@alisonwren3624 And hopefully it will be the $$€€££ medical malpractice costs that will stop these treatments from being given to people who don't need them.
I can't believe medical professionals do unecessary mutilations on people whose brains aren't fully matured and can justify it as ethical.
@@possumfriend2335 They kill babies. Why wouldn't they mutilate children, too?
We'll be seeing more of these stories in the next decade or two.
And a uptick in serial killers
@@silverpairaducks No, more suicides.
And some epic lawsuits too I'm sure
It's horrible to think about but I suspect this won't change until there's a litany of mutilated people telling their story and the casualties become too numerous to deny.
All we can do now is position the radical advocates for transitioning from the get go to firmly own their position and bury them with the fallout.
@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher Letting them fall on their own swords.
I’m just making this observation as a gay man, so maybe I’m biased or hyper aware, I dunno… but it seems like just being gay is almost not even considered anymore when it comes to anything that has to do with someone who might be slightly outside the norm for heterosexuality. When I see anything LGBT there always seems to be an emphasis on the T, if not just a complete focus.
Even when I see gay men being portrayed in entertainment it’s people that look RuPaul or Billy Porter, people who are androgynous at best, or they’re super fey or even wearing makeup. I almost never see just a gay man like me… a regular man, who looks like man, acts like a man, sounds like a man, dresses like a man, who just happens to also like men. That describes the vast majority of gay men I know and I’m one of them (describes my husband too). I’ve never even met or seen someone like Billy Porter.
I feel like “it’s ok to be gay” needs to be revised to “it’s ok to just be gay.”
yes, absolutely this! The super-gay who seem to be doing an impression of a black american woman rather than just a bloke who prefers men to women. It must be annoying to you that this is how all gay men seem to be on TV. It's like some kind of fake persona to me.
@@maxineallen5673 It’s absolutely a fake persona, it’s a performance. That’s what drag is… and I’m sure Billy Porter isn’t laying around his mansion in thigh high boots with a ball gown and lipstick by his lonesome. He’s probably wearing the same old sweatpants and 15 year old stained shirt we all wear when we lounge around not in public, and I’m sure when he’s dashing to the store he’s in the same running errands clothes we all wear instead of a chiffon top with peach lip gloss and wedges. It’s all so obviously fake and corporate driven.
This is “gay for the straight gaze”. It’s just that being gay these days is redefined as trans and open to sexual attraction to females who identify as men. It’s a homophobic nightmare.
@@danimalthebruce2569 Hey mate, great comment. Yeah, gay men have their own unique identity and story, so do women. I am a straight guy, and very left of centre. Nevertheless, it's obvious to me gay kids and kids in general are now the targets of a massive campaign by medical/drug companies, and out of touch, liberal, faux left, elites. Gays like you and TERF's, who I support for the most part, are becoming problematic to profits. Hence, you are shut out of the picture, presented as a drag queen.
Gay man here 100% agree
Trying to pass all the time sounds exhausting and demoralising. Very happy this young man is getting back to feeling like himself and liking his body again.
Garret, I don't know if you'll visit the comments but if you do I hope you read this.
Thank you for sharing your experiences, being prepared to talk about some deeply personal stuff. For what its worth I'm genuinely impressed by the way you conduct yourself and the fortitude you have demonstrated.
All the best. Take care.
100% 👍🏾
Yes Garret
I am so impressed by the way you present yourself and the process of transitioning and de transitioning. So important for those of use trying to understand this issue. Stay happy! You seem so full of life.
Do these so called gender "therapists" ever say no to anyone? I don't think they do, and that should be a gigantic red flag.
Lately, they haven't been allowed to, ever since mainstream made the shift to affirmation therapy and not "watchful waiting" or the exploration of other options.
Monetized psychopathy.
No they don’t… because then They’d be labeled transphobic.
They do, it took me a whole year of psychological therapy and observation to get hormones prescribed to me, sex reassignment surgery is out of the question for the time being too
@@lemm6005 Thats not the experience of most trans these days, particularly in the US. If you have health insurance you only need 1 visit to a gender therapist. RUclips is full of detransitioners who only had 1 meeting before given hormones. Aside from that reality, trans activists are actively lobbying for children of any age, to be given hormones. They have also successfully forced gender clinics to "affirm only". Doctors can be fired for warning about bad outcomes, or warning about the life-long medical care the patient will need.
The reckless application of these surgeries and hormones is going to go down as the most criminally unethical chapter in medical history. This is worse than the lobotomy Chapter 70 or 80 years ago.
But it may come in a close second to the whole VidVax debacle; I devoutly hope that it won’t be as bad as I fear, but it probably will.
@@llamasugar5478 wtf is VidVax?
@@1SpicyMeataball You know . . . the thing. The jab. The Fauci ouchie.
Maybe, it might tie with coercing the entire world to take a shot that has been tested for less than a year. It appears our medical system is entirely morally bankrupt. Where did “ first do no harm” go?
@@lilolmecj go read a couple threads on "woke doctor's Twitter" and you will realize that the Hippocratic Oath is dead Among a frighteningly large percentage of doctors.
22 years old with an orchiectomy?? 😥 how can these doctors sleep at night!?
They really do need to serve jail time! Hope my comment doesn't get deleted!
@@Connie-ty5zb unfortunately it's supposedly pretty difficult to sue them for malpractice because these surgeries are still considered experimental. Makes no sense
On a big pile of money.
They are certainly not living up to their oath to do no harm. This kid has a really likable personality, so it makes me extra mad no one was looking out for him.
They are following medical guidelines. They are not allowed to make sure if their patients really need to transition.
All that energy for something he ultimately didn't want.
and MONEY
@@ClayMastah344 Yeah, I wonder who paid for all of this?
@@dibelgelo
The US taxpayers
He lied to doctors and psychologists and now someone who needs it won't get hormones. Shame on him!
He’s so cute, brave and intelligent, after having such an irresponsible force in his life. He has learned young the lesson of disillusionment, thinking for yourself, he doesn’t seem bitter, I pray he has a full happy life. I love how he just says, “a gay guy” now. It’s enough!!
Young people are encouraged to dissociate, create a new identity, mutilate themselves.. as if that is going to go down well :(
Be whatever you want, people don't care nowadays but don't mutilate yourselves .
Very brave young man. I hope he finds his balance and be happy and healthy. He's very nice and likeable.
At the same time young people have difficulty finding community and identity, go figure. Maybe the complete and total atomization of our society wasn't as great an idea.
@@CrestOfArtorias "Maybe the complete and total atomization of our society wasn't as great an idea.." No maybe about it friend, it was definitely a terrible idea. And frankly my guess is that the desire to 'transition' is exactly what you're suggesting: a misguided attempt to solve the pathology that results from that atomization. Unhappy alienated people grasping at any possible relief.
"Be whatever you want, people don't care nowadays but don't mutilate yourselves" beautifully concise version of my long winded attempts. Should be something said to all young pre op trans people.
absolutely... mutilation for no medical AND VERY STRONG medical reason (eg. cancer; serious potentially fatal infection...), should be forbidden, and whoever did it, should serve at least 20 years in jail.
😂 The freak needs to be put down.
The impulsiveness of youth doesn't shock me, but the wholesale "sure, let's chop off healthy body parts and medicalise you for life" by professionals who have a duty to do no harm will never not horrify and shock me. When women are told patronisingly to "wait and see, you may change your mind" when requesting sterilisation and wait years in most cases, , a fit and healthy young man has his testicles removed on a whim, no questions asked. This world is crazy.
@Max Mac Lochlyn In denial
So true!
He lied and bypassed safeguards. His fault.
In the near future people will look at this the same way we look at lobotomies and eugenics today
Except eugenics actually works lol
@@viiolex3535 to our detriment
No, I love my identity disorder. It's who I am; it's where mind meets body.
Garrett, I hope you read this. That was an awesome interview. Thank you for sharing your story. You are in a unique position to help others. Stay strong and keep well. Huge admiration for you. Well done.
By the logic of the transgender ideology, they would not need medical intervention.
What happened to gender being separate from sex? Unless they don't actually believe that....
It's a case of sliding and moving definitions of words to conveniently "win" an online exchange.
Real growth and exchange of ideas isn't important.
Their arguments are entirely dependent on control of the language, it couldn't be more Orwellian. For instance, they changed the definition of the word gender in laymen usage (synonym for sex, according to any old paperback thesaurus) to mean the academic definition (feelings). Which is perfectly fine, the more granular the language the better IMO. But then they proceeded to apply the new 'gender' to all the scenarios that were previously a function of sex (e.g. women's sports).
@@toobnoobify They also use the words "transfemale" and "transwoman" interchangeably. At one point the ideology even acknowledged the existence of sex and how it isn't important in deciding your gender. While we have people take exogenous hormones and surgeries to change their sexual characteristic. In addition to fighting for puberty blockers and surgeries for their kids, you would think they would not go down that route based on their own logic. Cognitive dissonance. Even the language has evolved to people announcing things like "I'm a male to female transgender" which is impossible, their initial logic kept these things separate, not anymore i guess.
They need to promote medical interventions in young people to justify the 'born in the wrong body' narrative. If younger people are claiming a trans identity then it means the middle aged men with AGP are not fetishists after all, their "gender identity is just like sexual orientation". Commitment to social 'transition' is a fast track to medical intervention and a point of no return, so the ideology becomes self perpetuating.
However in order to have arousal middle aged men with AGP need their testes and penis, so simultaneously you hear the promotion of the ideas that "transgender people don't need surgeries", or "a penis is a female organ if on a transwoman" notice there are no middle aged women claiming a trans identity in the same proportions as middle aged males.
@@toobnoobify of course, because you can't claim a man is a woman for all purposes except prison or sport because that pokes holes in the ideology, hence their all or nothing approach, no compromise
The wokesters will say he was never trans if he detransitioned. Yet they’re the ones who convinced him he was trans. Welcome to woke common sense. Welcome to 2021 💁🏻♀️
He wasn't mentally transgender but he became physically transgender. He had internalized homophobia and quite frankly he lied to gender therapists. Not a smart move! I'm transgender and gay. I'm emasculated and love the emasculated.
God makes some people trans and their access to medical care helps them. IN fact we have overwhelming data showing it helps most people who take it. As long as the right wing can't admit that, its impossible to have a serous conversation about how to make sure it does not go to the wrong people.
@@normanicole4714 God makes NOBODY "trans". Sex CANNOT BE changed by irreversible cosmetic surgery or hormones. If it can, TELL US ALL the specific process when the sex change actually happens. You can't because it doesn't.
@@normanicole4714 FALES
This was an amazing interview. Thank you for being so candid. I'm impressed with how openly you talk about these very personal issues. We definitely need more people like you willing to do that.
This is a very sensitive topic and I'm glad you're doing the interviews you are to show the ugly side that people want to ignore.
This dude seems like a great laid back, genuine guy. It's great to see people who deserve a better life find their way out of the broken system. Thanks as always, Benjamin.
Academia and Media has really pushed this, kind of like the plastic surgery and botox trend in the 2000's.
Rarely do I make comments about personal appearance, but Garrett's choice of shirt is fantastic imo. What a well presented person. And this individual shines.
I came up in the late 80s and 90s, it 100% reminds me of the shirts from that era lol.
@@BG-mh6pc probably vintage
Omg me too, I love that shirt! Vintage clothes are my favorite 😍
To think I did my Master's project on transgender voice therapy, and now I'm a gender critical "bigot." Everyone peak transes eventually.
I think it’s interesting, do you have a copy of your thesis?
@@chocolatebunny3221 it was a project not a thesis
@@jkscout oh okay I’m sorry. Thanks for clarification
Whatever you think about Boyce, he asks some damn good questions & is vernally just good at his job.
Appreciate that someone is giving these boys a comfortable place to speak. It is so very necessary. Thank you, Benjamin Boyce.
"I wanted the surgery, so I lied and got it. Now I regret it..." Mate, you have to take responsibility for your own life- if you lie, you might pay for it later.
It shouldn't be that easy to simply lie, in order to have surgery that causes irreversible damage, infertility and the need to take hormone replacements for the rest of your life. The system is clearly and massively broken.
These kids are subjected to so much propaganda and brainwashing... Please have compassion for the victims of this insanity, and save your spite for those who are masterminding it.
And, that goes for everything in life.
I don't have a problem with trans people, I have a problem with how indignant and manipulative activists are in enforcing affirmation onto dissidents.
And these are some extremely young impressionable people who don't have proper life experiences. Yet their arguments _fall apart_ extremely easily.
Which is why it seems trans activists are so manipulative in quashing dissent and attacking anyone not totally celebratory of the culture. Not good.
They need to be forced to deal with dissent. And doctors/journalists need to be able to operate freely otherwise they're only self-harming.
They don't need to be forced to deal with anyone, they need to be publicly shamed, laughed at, and scorned for being heatless manipulators who have no compassion for the people they use as tools to advance their radical and destructive political agendas.
I agree.
I hate their manipulative behavior, and their activism for “trans youth”.
Gag!
Let kids be kids, and stop trying to change our laws…
Just talking to my own therapist and reading several psychology papers, I noticed that in many cases of gender dysphoria, the person is also struggling with another mental disorder such as bipolar depression, autism, binary personality disorder, clinical depression, etc. And these disorders are usually not addressed in cases of gender dysphoria. I just wonder if addressing those underlying mental disorders in the people who struggle with them is better to start with rather than going straight to chopping your dick or tits off.
My arguments don't fall apart. Stay away from the medical rights of trans people. You have no right and do no good.
This is medical malpractice. Period. Every "Healthcare" professional that touched this case should spend the rest of their lives cleaning the toilets at an abandoned bus station as far away from civilization as possible...although that's probably STILL to much responsibility for them.
You don't support freedom. Jesus Christ in Matthew 19:12 said all who can accept the gift of being a eunuch should do so. Eunuchs aren't priests as they have nuts. There's no clearer word in the English language.
I spoke with my physical therapist about this as the institution she works at is mega woke. She is under the delusion that gender transition helps people become who they are supposed to be and thus they are happier. I told her to look into the detrans videos on RUclips and to read irreversible damage But I felt like there was now a wedge between us whereas before we got along great. It’s so crazy how these topics divide us when we don’t even have a dog in the fight so to speak. I don’t want to be silent but I know I can’t change peoples minds either. It’s tough.
They bought into a lie and can only reinforce said lie. Rather believe what they're promoting is good than admit it's actually harmful. And the latter is the point, they don't want to see what they're doing/promoting as harmful.
Well you are on the side of oppression and injustice. Trans care helps most people who take it. Some people make a mistake but increased access has meant better lives for more people not less. Stop worrying about woke and remember you have the capacity for humility and human compassion.
@@normanicole4714 I see the brainwashing has had it's desired effect on you. Throwing around buzzwords and stating falsehoods despite evidence to the contrary being right in front of you. You are in for such a rude awakening, my friend.
@@siobhannoble8545 Took a closer look at the picture. That's a troon. One that has pretty decided it has to double down in its decision. Yet we all know the sense of doubt, regret, and knowing that because it's a lie, a charade, its desire to pretend will never truly make them happy, especially when everyone else literally the whole world knows it's a lie.
The more I listen to all these accounts of people, the more I believe this is all some PSYOP.
That's what I think. The media's obsession with all things race and gender is troubling.
@@jonasabry9099 For whatever reasons, they infiltrated the gay community organizations at the college level, and are slowing churning out "trans" people by helping impressionable minds, and let's be honest some damaged ones as well, to internalize homophobia, or feeling different. The question is, what is the end goal of this ideology?
@@Hils_B Big pharma making money hand over fist.
Oh yeah, it's an overt and systemic attack on any and all pillars of our culture. It's war by non-kinetic means. Who benifits especially from the weakening of the American population, you might ask yourself.
It's a psyche centered political movement that indeed is the continuum of the 'psychological operation' that started as the Critical Theory. So the most influential origin is The Frankfurt School and the origin of that school is Marxism combined with psychological theory.
It's been elitistic pseudointellectuals (notice the dominance of their ethnic group, just as with Marxism, Bolshevism etc.) of upper class/status who've invented, started, promoted and funded these things and continue to do so.
If I were a parent, I'd make my kids binge-watch early Bowie, Eurythmics, Adam Ant, Boy George, etc.
Classics.
That sounds interesting, why would that be important? I have a lovely 12 year old granddaughter that has chosen to be "male" and I'm so frightened that my daughter and son-in-law will allow this little girl/boy to be transitioned!
@@frandriedger8450 not OP, but I think the importance might be to show kids you don’t need to alter or possibly harm your body to change your persona, or be whoever you want to be
@@frandriedger8450 to show happy, confident gender non conformity.
One of the things I wonder about is - how did we get from Boy George (healthy and humorous androgyny, no denial of biological reality) to THIS - to where we are now, some kind of dystopia based on sex stereotypes and the invasive medicalization of objectively healthy young people? It’s terrifying.
I really respect Garrett's testimony and willingness to share his mistakes and reflections
We really need to lift up voices like Garrett's because these stories will save soooo many kids from making irreversable and lifelong problematic decisions. I've never understood why there is such a rush to push these treatments on our kids, just let them be who they are and love them for it!
Hi, I'm 6'6" and want to be trans-feminine. Will you hire me? Luckily that wasn't me. I didn't get blockers; I got anorexia and didn't grow an inch once I implemented that policy at age 12. Don't worry we'll get the word out for that alternate. Most will figure it out if they are truly trans. You never, ever will take our dignity and autonomy away especially from a young, natal male who will be a joke if that person decides to eat their feelings. You don't get it.
For anyone wondering why "orchi" sounded familiar, yes, orchids (the flower) are named after testicles.
No actually testicles are called orchids in anatomical terminology after orchids
@@WindspriteM The 🥚or the 🐤
Interesting.
I'm not sure if it's because you're spotlighting so many of these voices, and that /r/detrans is a hub of these voices, but it's sounding more and more that we're looking at a massive crisis of detransitioners who can't be ignored anymore in the next coming decade or so. It's really sad.
The other 99% are very, very happy.
This is so distressing.
When I learned about this back in medical school, people needed to have two full years of psychotherapy, and had to live in the target gender for a year before anyone would start prescribing cross-sex hormones.
My niece transitioned at 14 to male. Took testosterone and went to school as a boy. After a year she is now a girl and more feminine than she had ever been
I’m so happy to hear that she’s ok. 😊
It's too late though: she's infertile now for life
@@IceQueen975 not necessarily, that depends on what Testosterone did in her case in particular. Effects of cross-sex hormones can vary across people. A lot of women can still get pregnant after Testosterone treatment. Some women do have vaginal atrophy, uterine collapse and there's always a heightened risk for certain kinds of cancer, but it's not a full strike for fertility by necessity
At 14 yo nobody should be allowed to take such a decision, as they're not allowed to vote, to drink, to smoke or to drive. Parents should be guídes not enablers.
@@viquiben4919, I see what your saying, but parents have almost no legal power to delay any of this.
I'm counting the monetary privilege in my head. These surgeries are expensive.
Women go thru absolute hell with large breasts & back issues, never mind the sick fetish cultists so ready to eye candy with any opportunity.
The long list of ignored side effects from implants are horrific. Women go thru hell to get augmentation covered & here we are...when a man can so easily make this crap happen.
Pure insanity.
That being said, proud of you Garrett 💖
It's such a cruel idea to push on the young that they are supposed to find their "true authentic self". I remember it being a very turbulent time, when you don't really know who you are and what you want, and it really takes time to find one's place in the world and to become more balanced and emotionally stable. I wish I had had someone to tell me this at that age. Trans wasn't a thing back then, but I might have gone for it if it was, and it would have been a disaster.
This gentleman is very intelligent, and seems like an adorable person. I wish him the best.
As time goes on, I guarantee more and more of these stories will be around.
The regret rate has been stead at like one percent for a long time, but as more trans people feel it's ok to be themselves more people are transitioning so more many more people are being helped and a few more make a mistake and are being harmed. That is how percentages work and ever single medicine and medical procedure has some regret rate.
Ben's face when he conceptualizes penile atrophy pain: 0_0
I feel so sad for the youth of this generation. Who knows how all these hormone fluctuations will affect their future.
Hey doc, I wanna transition.
Doc: sure, sign here.
Can I also get a painkiller?
DOC: BEGONE SPAWN OF SATAN!
My thoughts exactly
Exactly. If Britney Spears wanted her whole damn uterus whipped out, she could just say she was trans. As a woman, she can't even get a fucking IUD taken out.
Mind Flux, can u explain the painkiller part? Why would a doctor react like that if u asked for painkillers?
@@gulanhem9495
I'm not certain what was meant exactly, but I relate to this comment 200 percent, so I'll share my interpretation:
I have diagnosed stenosis with a bulged disc, an S curve and an inward curve in my spine. I struggle with constant bouts of sciatic pain. Took me out for a good three weeks at age 27, couldn't walk, couldn't function, took out my career projectory. Its genetic, super common in my family. The doctors told me there's no cure and it's a chronic condition, and my only long term solution is a surgery that would eliminate all ease of motion in my neck and shoulders.
It's gotten waaay worse the last three years but I've learned to deal with chronic pain 24/7. Recently had my insurance drop all treatments because I was going to the ER once a month to get a short term tordol (high powered ibuprofen) shot, and they said it was "abusing" the system. All this and they have refused to give me painkillers, ever. It has never even come up even though everyone else in my family with the condition has their own script of painkillers and they can manage their own pain. None of them are addicts, though I'm sure they're technically "dependent".
So I can no longer get tordol shots, can't get a script of even the least potent painkillers, all due to my state-mandated insurance. Here's the kicker:
Right now my insurance would cover a FULL SEX CHANGE AND TRANSITION, covered 100 percent.
It's bonkers hahaha
@@gulanhem9495 the person above did a great job explaining it.
I'll give a super simplified general version: historically a few doctors over prescribed opiods, so the FDA (or equivalent in other countries) cracked down, now the over reaction has swung the other direction and now all doctors fear prescribing it.
What a thoroughly likeable young man. Garrett, being yourself is enough in any situation and your personality will always shine. Such a shame that you were ill advised by cynical, agenda driven actors. Your story perfectly illustrates why a "wait and watch" policy is the ONLY way to approach gender confused children. I would love to know what you think about young children being put through the gender wringer by their parents.
Wait and watch is a death sentence. Anorexia was my blocker and served me rather well as I didn't grow on inch since age 12. I know have a successful transition and supportive parents should be critical of any treatment but supportive of their child and what doctors recommend. Gender transition has been a safe practice for adults for 100 years and 25 years for adolescence. Now you are trying to get YOUR way and regulate and now adults in Missouri and Oklahoma can not get hormones. You are now taking kids off their medicine and forcing families to move at gunpoint. This is genocide and will not be taken lightly.
Or, what he thinks about the government being able to remove children from their homes and do transition procedures against the wishes or knowledge of parents. Shouldn't the government then be liable for physical mutilations?
I think detrans should get together and file a huge malpractice suit
11:35 - Estrogen killed his sex drive, made him fat and bloated and caused him to cry easily. Now men understand women 😉😝🙃!
I'm so happy you're having all these calmversations about this topic. Mental health is my job and what I'm passionate about, and i'm ecstatic when i see other people working so ahrd towards delving into the depths of these issues. These are complicated problems and the explanations are also complicated. Our society is starved for the depths within our conversations that these subjects require to be understood at a level where we can actually come up with somewhat of a decent direction to orient ourselves towards. All love towards Garret, and his courage and candor in coming out with his story. Inspiring!
The problem is woke people and TRA’s don’t won’t these conversations to happen. They are absolutely terrified of having any kind of open debate on this matter.
A lot of Mental Health professionals are part of the problem. Far too many just rubber stamp this stuff, but I do understand the laws in some states tie their hands.
Thanks for asking the tough - I won't say hard - questions, Benjamin. It's important to get the info out there. We need to know exactly what we're talking about.
Love your interviews, I don't comment much but I'm excited whenever you interview someone!
Thanks Fran-glad to know you're out there, tuning in.
If you ever do a concert-type interview, I would attend in a heartbeat!
Garrett is such a lovely and fun brave guy and im so proud of him for speaking out about this topic
It stuns me how apparently easy it is to put yourself on course for transitioning. Almost trivialising the whole thing. A couple of consultations with a 'therapist', a course of hormones.
Glad to see the public is slowly waking up from being woke...
@@Connie-ty5zb Too late for this young man, though. He's had very serious surgical interventions that cannot be undone. He needs testosterone for the rest of his life and will never be able to have kids.
I so admire Garrett for his honesty. It seems to me that so called gender therapists are really not there to challenge the transitioning process or the individual because of the social pressure to promote the ideology. This is such a crime but it's important that detrains people tell their story. It might help someone else. Thanks for the interview Boyce.
Look into the way therapists have been educated on this topic and others over the past 20yrs. Many of the educational institutions teaching therapists are using the "affirmation" model.
Boyce has an interview with a student who is currently in a legal battle with Antioch university regarding the methodology being taught there which uses race as a lens for every problem a client presents with.
Trying to "pass" is a full time preoccupation. The obsession destroys people. It is said by the trans community "How would you feel if YOU were born into *wrong* body?!"
But the thing is most people don't have the obsession required for disphoria. Not because they were born in the *right* body but because they are more resilient and centered.
The vast majority of people could suffer a body changing event, the loss of a limb, etc. Only a small fraction would obsess to the point of exhaustion and self destruction.
I follow a channel that compiles “woke” TikTok videos, and the one thought I always have is “This much preoccupation with pronouns, etc. requires an astounding degree of narcissism.”
@@llamasugar5478 i for the life of me cannot recall a single time where one of my friends, myself or anybody i knew, family or a classmate, IDENTIFIED as something. You know what i mean? I grew up in the 70s, 80s ....and i just can't remember a single _identification._
You?
@@lowandodor1150 I don’t recall any. I mean, there were classmates that we knew were gay, but it was like,
“Mark is gay.”
“Oh. I wondered. Are you coming to study group tonight?”
I graduated in ‘83. There was no nonsense about pronouns. One of my classmates transitioned, but it was later, when he could afford it. Our attitude was “if it’s supposed to be private/personal, well, let’s just keep it that way.”
@@llamasugar5478 i'm a bit younger then, b 1974, i had a gay/bi friend, never once heard anything like the jargon of today, but also not outside my own little world, ESPECIALLY young people wouldn't give a crap about those things, how you approach or call them, that was something for royalty and such, haha!
Yeah, the thing is, when you lose a limb and you do your best to carry on with that event (physiotherapy, painkillers, prosthetics) is not called narcicism, it's just called normal medical tratment. No politics involved. Or what? Are you going to call a cancer patient an obsessed narcissist just for getting chemo? I guess people shouldn't try making things better for themselves under that logic
He went through all this surgeries just to realize that his body had always been perfect! I'm glad he is better now!
You can't convince my that my body was perfect but the difference between me and him was that I fought puberty very hard with anorexia, cutting protein/calories, altering voice and all of this at onset.
This was an excellent interview, thanks to both participants. While as a retired RN I am terribly frustrated with the medical system, I see them as being under tremendous pressure by activists to support an agenda. The patient is the one who gets to live with the consequences of these decisions. Perhaps he would have chosen differently if he had been forced to go through an actual proper diagnosis and therapy prior, but we will never know. He seems to be in a good place , and maybe this is the path he had to take, but what a difficult journey.
Therapy is essential but he lied.
Trans care does help most people who take it and the more red tape you put around it the more people who actually need it that you keep in suffering. We need to find a way to protect people from making mistake without dominating the vast majority who take this care and are actually trans into lives of suffering. It's a tremendously arrogant thing for people to think they have any right to get between strangers and their doctors.
Therapists are not allowed to do anything other than gender affirmation from what I understand
Such a nice interviewer,genuinely interested in everything he has to say. And such a nice boy:)
Can't dispel the thought that perhaps a year of therapy, rather than a year of sex hormones after two hours of "therapy", might have changed the course of Garrett's life. But not with a "gender therapist".
Prior to transition, I wonder if it's easier for teens to come out as Trans, than it is gay or lesbian? It seems the terms "queer", "trans" and "non-binary" are the common trend.
My niece transitioned because her dad said she couldn't date a girl. She grew apart from her girlfriend and detransitioned. Would have been easier if dad had allowed her to explore being lesbian first
I wonder if it has anything to do with gay being so closely associated with transgender in conversations and organizations now to the point it’s eclipsed. It seems nothing is gay anymore, it’s either LGBT (with an emphasis on the T) or trans completely. Being just gay seems to have been totally sent to the back of the bus in terms of this collective identity thing that’s been happening for the past 20 years.
Like, I don’t know when it happened, but the popular image of a gay man now are people like RuPaul or Billy Porter, full time drag queens or very androgynous performance art people, and I make this observation as a gay man myself. I rarely see a gay man portrayed as I am… just a regular man who is a man, looks like a man, acts like a man, and likes men. It’s treated as a rarity or nonexistent when it’s, honestly, the vast majority.
@@danimalthebruce2569 Coming out as gay when I was a teen in 2001, was not hip or cool. It was a terrible experience for me, but I feel there were more positive role models, then there are now. Shows like Ellen and Will and Grace, really helped acceptance in the late 90's showing relatable characters. Now, if someone is gay in a show, they're not allowed to step out of a box. It's like were going backwards with stereotypes and negative characters.
@@jonasabry9099 Yeah, coming out wasn’t fun for me either and it certainly wasn’t cool. The only other gay kid I knew in school was bullied mercilessly. I agree with you. I came out in 2004 as a 16 year old.
I see gay men in media now and it’s like… what is this? What happened?
Some very progressive gay fellows were shocked at my opinions on this and told me to read a book called Velvet Rage and the book was written by a gay psychologist that basically says the reason I’m not a prancing interior designer party boy 24/7 is because I’m filled with shame over not being heterosexual and it’s like… this garbage is what young gay men are being taught now? I mean, I’m fairly young (33) but I don’t remember any of this kinda stuff growing up and I feel like a grandpa looking at people that aren’t even a decade younger than me.
@@danimalthebruce2569 idk, I came out as bisexual when I was like 14, in the 90s, and plenty of people in the lesbian community I talked to were telling me I was still trying to appease "the male gaze". As though the sexual desires I experienced were purely performative. I think queer theory has always had that wierd "you're doing that to try and be more heteronormative" floating around in it.
He is refreshing and charming and honest. I really identified with his comment about trying to manage his curly hair when he grew it out - I thought, "welcome to our world (women)".
I hope the trend of people from 60 minutes going on Benjamin Boyce continues.
Excellent interview, Benjamin. This young man has needlessly been through hell. The affirmation from the university campus, the therapists, and most significantly the medical doctors, is the culprit.
His parents have been through hell. I hope he appreciates the misery they’ve been through and how much they love him.
Really good interview. Just my opinion but I don't think this young man got the real support he needed. My understanding also is there are a lot of lousy therapists out there. I wish him the best for the future.
There was a lady in the UK sued her doctors and therapists and won.
We so need to hear more from male detransitioners and desisters. Not that your discussions with female detrans/desisters aren't excellent, but this could be a great niche for you as a male interviewer. I would have like to hear if he thought of himself as a "woman" before or during his time medicalizing, and what his thoughts and feelings were/are about women and womanhood in general at that time and now. And manhood! Also the role of internalized shame and external/internalized homophobia, if any. Your questions were good, but I would also like to hear these young gay men's take on what exactly motivates a gay man who presumably loves men and maleness to present as a woman? Lots of questions! A lot to unpack here.
Your cat YouTubing skills just keeps getting better and better☺️🥰
Thanks Garrett and Benjamin. Great interview. Broke my heart thinking about doing irreversible things with one’s own body and then realize it was the wrong decision - broke my heart for you Garrett, but you seem to handle it in a way I don’t think I ever could, and I’m happy to hear you say you’re so much better off now. I think you’re quite brave, wish you all the best with everything.
Ben your interviews are always so good. Cheers
This boys parents failed him during his early years, look up attachment styles. A secure attachment type would not even question this, if he wants to wear a dress then wear a dress, no problem, but to but off your balls! theres no coming back from that. He seems to be handling it well though, sending him virtual hugs
I apperciate how respectful and neutral you are
WTAF?? This interview absolutely broke my heart: DOCTORS “fixed” this young man, like you might a DOG. I didn’t think my regard for the profession could get much lower, but here we are.
Exulansic said it best, “Just let him wear the damn dress.”
I am beyond horrified. Criminal charges should be pursued.
But what if somebody doesn't want the harsh secondary sex characteristics associated with their gender? I'm not my clothes! I've been castrated and take estrogen and am happy. I'm in perfect health as well.
Men can wear dresses but I don't want to be a man.
@@DorianPaige00 I wish I was a rich supermodel. As Grandma used to say, “Wish in one hand and sh*t in the other…see which fills up first.”
I’m sorry you’ve been lied to, and I’m not unsympathetic. But you’re not a woman.
@@recynd77 I know I'm not a woman and never claimed to be. I didn't want male secondary sex characteristics and then softened my appearance out with estrogen. It's only $5 a month for a bottle of estrogen so I don't know where being rich comes in. It cost me $2,300 for my orchiectomy.
I'm smart about money as well. I currently live with my last living parent, work full time, and am worth quite a substantial amount. It's about six times what most financial advisors recommend for a couple to retire. I don't know where transgenderism meets hedonism and irresponsibility.
@@DorianPaige00 I meant that *I* wish I was rich. However, good on you for taking care of yourself and your parents. They’re lucky to have you.
Be well and be you, whatever that looks like. 👍🏼
NO. Because there are actual people who this care helps. Trans people are a real thing.
I remain astonished at how young people can embark on a course of action with almost irreversible consequences called tattooing on all parts of their body. A fad is a fad is a fad.
Not to mention old women with tattoos, who look less than attractive. What were they thinking? Pretty obvious they never considered the whole picture.'
Amazing interview BB. This ideology that pushes the idea that you are 'born in the wrong body' is so damaging. Self acceptance isn't easy and it takes a long time to feel comfortable in your own skin. Garrett; your honesty is courageous and the wisdom you have gained from your experience will help many who may be confused and questioning.
@Max Mac Lochlyn grow up
Did I hear he castrated himself to save $650??? That’s like half an iPhone 😢
That's like double my smartphone. :-)
He must be fully supported and loved by all of us. Wishing all the best for this boy. Criminal doctors must be sued for messing up his life permanently.
Him describing how he felt when he had breasts is gender dysphoria to a T - he gave himself gender dysphoria by getting those implants (if you've ever been dysphoric about your breasts you'd know what I'm talking about) and despite having that I've never really decided to transition. Living healthily with dysphoria should be an option too and I think the performative gender roles should be more open, boys can like feminine things, girls can like masculine things.
And people can transition medically if they want. That's what freedom looks like.
Thank you for your voice, Garrett. You are blazing the trail for others!
What a sensitive, compassionate interview, Benjamin. Garrett, may you continue down the right path
in leading your best life with the loving support of your family and friends.
These kids ruin their bodies permanently. So sad
Yet the left will go on about religions and the antics they get up to that permanently damage children and adults . . . This is no different!!!
@Rika Ilay Abbir I think religion is good, but there are some factions of religions where they have really unsafe, nutty practices like snake handling or cutting off certain parts of the human anatomy . . . My point was that these people are pushing for young people to permanently damage their bodies based on some ignorant belief that they are in the wrong body.
Thank you Garrett for telling part of your story. ❤️ So much life and love ahead of you.
You seem like a lovely lad Garrett. I'm sending all my best wishes to you, and thank you for sharing your experience.
This is sad… these young people are mutilating themselves. Our society is lifting up this behavior as courageous and you become an instant ‘hero’. And what young person doesn’t want to be recognized. We need to give these youth something more to think about other than sex!! 🤦🏻♀️
Thank you for sharing, Garrett. You have a bright future ahead of you -- best of luck as you continue your journey!
So difficult to listen to. Can’t imagine the deep pain.
There’s no such thing as TMI for Boyce and us, we care about the people interviewed, and so if it’s relevant to them, it’s all good
With him, I get the feeling he would have been happiest in his life if the concept of drag queens had been introduced into his life instead of transgenderism.
So beautiful what Garrett’s father said, “I don’t understand it, but keep talking, keep venting to me.” What a blessing it is to have parents who will support you and listen. Thank you Garrett for sharing.
Thank you Garrett for being so open. You are helping so many people.
I know three trans people in their twenties, one TiF & two TiMs.
All on hormones, the female's had a double mastectomy & the males both on a pathway to castration. None have had any therapy. The GI clinics affirm from the first appointment
I wonder who pays for these surgeries. I heard Garrett complain about the $600 for changing names and $75 for therapy appointments but never mentioned the cost of surgery. It made me assume he wasn't paying for them. Since it's rare for young people to have that kind of money is Medicaid or parents insurance paying?
@@galilaya42 since it's "just" an orchiectomy rather than a full-on penile inversion surgery that would create a neovagina, it's probably somewhat cheaper than so-called "sex-reassignment" surgery
(he still has the penis, but he lost the balls, which are the organs where testosterone is produced)
Garrett's voice needs to be amplified! Teens need to hear his journey before they commit to any surgeries.
Gay is okay🤗🧡
How much does all this cost and how do people pay for it? It seems like this alone should be a deterrent. I can't even afford a tooth implant!
I believe insurance is required to cover it. A soldier who transitions will have it covered by his/her insurance (at taxpayer expense).
If Biden has his way, it will be free for any age, even minors! I am technically still a Dem so please don't delete my comment. Soon to be changing my party affiliation to No Party!
Great interview. We need more brave people to come forward to stop this trend.
Thank you, Garrett and Benjamin!
Gender is a prison -- if your personality doesn't fit the prevailing destructive stereotypes associated with your body, then chop your body up until it does. And now this gutsy, thoughtful kid has lost something precious to him. He has an amazing, brave life ahead of him, though.
I always say that when I was little, I was told I couldn't be so good at math because I was a girl. Nowdays, I'd have been told that I couldn't be a girl if I was so good at math. I wish he'd just grown up in the 80s when male role models with eyeliner and fancy clothes were all over the place, and no one imagined they were anything other than men.
Every doctor should be prosecuted for mutilating anyone!
As always, thank you Benjamin for being a fantastic journalist.
Garret, thank you for sharing your story, wishing you the best in your life.
I feel like a lot of gender confusion comes front not accepting oneself as flawed people. Why am I flawed? Why can’t I accept myself like others do? Why can’t I love myself? And today’s culture pushes us to believe that gender is the problem.
No, it is not easy to accept one self and to love one self, but I wish more people can stop that impulsive urge for irreparable decisions. Some of us choose to try suicide while others mutilate ourselves, when we all just want to learn how to love ourselves, how to not care anymore about what other things, when we just want to be loved by who we are.
@Max Mac Lochlyn If you have nothing good or constructive to say, why you even write a comment lol
@Max Mac Lochlyn in think that’s beyond the point of my comment. I’m talking about the people that think transitioning is the solution and end up regretting it. I’m not negating that there are people who suffer dysphoria out there and would benefit from transitioning. I’m referring to those who are going through hard times, have a hard time accepting who they are or explaining why they can’t love themselves and end up taking decisions that will affect their lives permanently.
Specially for the youth who is impulsive and easily influenced, who are ignorant of the long term effects that this kind of procedures have. And I’m speaking from the perspective of someone who also was highly impulsive and didn’t measure the long term consequences of my actions, although I thought I did. That is someone that every young person will go through in a way or another; and just because one wants to call for caution, doesn’t turn someone into a transphobic person. Also, why it is so important to accept oneself and love oneself first, as a person, as the one who’s inside, first? Because no external change will help you live with yourself and be able to tolerate your own thoughts in a moment of solitude. And that goes beyond gender, beyond the trans conversation. That’s why a lot of trans people end up committing suicide, regardless if they regret or not their transition, and that’s just absolutely heart breaking. So instead of going out there shutting down conversation and calling other people names, focus on bringing awareness and real conversations.
@Max Mac Lochlyn didn’t you just say it yourself? YOU. That’s the answer you came up for yourself. It might not be the case for someone else, don’t you think? And you can also be trans and accept yourself, accept your inner child, the other side of you that you reject, because that person doesn’t deserve to be rejected. You can love that part of yourself while still being trans. What is the point of putting up war with your own self? That you accept yourself doesn’t mean it negates your own identity and existence. Is recognizing that we are all born with things that we didn’t choose, for some is parents we didn’t choose, for others, circumstances they didn’t choose and for others it is a body they didn’t choose. We are not born perfect and we will never be, we are all flawed, but to grow we have to accept our flawed selves instead of rejecting it. Again, it doesn’t mean you have to stop being trans. Does the person you once were deserve to be rejected because of who they were? Did they do anything wrong? If the answer is no, then why do you do that towards that person?
It is something that I believe everyone should learn to process, regardless of gender or age. To stop loathing that child inside of us, to accept them, to forgive them, to give them love.
And as you can see, this doesn’t change either you’re trans or not. But maybe a lot of people, if they could learn how to do this when they were in despair, they would have not chosen to transition, such is the case with Garret, that accepted he could be gay and like feminine stuff and that’s okay, even if there’s people out there that will still rejected. But he’s in the end, in peace with himself now. We must stop putting a war against ourselves, against our inner self, our shadow, our anima, integrate those aspects of ourselves to be able to find peace within. That’s where I was going with my comment. Of course, in the end, if the person is in peace with oneself and still have dysphoria, they’re free to pursue the life that they want in the gender that they want. Life is a lot more than our gender and our conscience will kick our asses for a lot of things other than gender :’)
Also, to accept oneself doesn’t mean that it’s not okay to change. To accept that we are flawed, doesn’t mean we can’t try and become better. In the contrary, because we accept our flawed selves and our potential for evil, as all humans, then we take the conscientious decision to be better, to do better, to become better. And that can take a lot of shapes and forms.
As a fellow southerner, I want to tell this young man to embrace his full self, his Southern identity, I'm seeing more gay Southern men openly find embracing their Southern identity fills a void of being told by society as a white male, you have no culture, you have no identity! Not true, we are a unique part of the American experiment and we Have a unique identity. I think it's a good idea to embrace your cultural identity, embrace your accent, I see many young southerners train themselves to speak without their accent.
To Garrett: I, and so many others, truly appreciate your courage in telling your story with such candor. It is very important to the public discourse about transitioning, and I believe it will help in the sociological efforts to understand how to better serve those who experience confusion or ambiguity about their gender identity. It is a highly complex issue, with many layers, and should not be 'messed with' without careful, gradual considerations. Your case highlights these problem areas perfectly. We are all wishing you the best as you navigate the de-transitioning process, and reclaim your life in a way that feels authentic and comfortable for you. It is wonderful to hear that your parents love and support you to the best of their ability. That familial support can make all the difference in one's life, regardless of the challenges we encounter. Blessings to you for your success and for your happiness as your journey forward 🙏💖🙌☯
My heart is seriously aching for this young man. Progressive/leftist policies have seriously went too far. We need to help people first and foremost, and if they still want to transition later in life, then put the option on the table.
Worth noting the ideology doesn't care about feelings, it only cares about bad feelings.
Regarding "They have an inability to say NO" they may feel they would be sued or harassed for saying no to the surgery
May God bless this young man 🙏🏻 💚✌🏻 he's so courageous for sharing his story. Respect.
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