BABY REINDEER DRAMA JUST GOT WORSE! The Real Martha Outed Herself & Is Sharing Her Side of the Story
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✩ TODAY’S STORIES ✩-
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00:00 - The Real Martha From Baby Reindeer to Speak With Piers Morgan
02:59 - New Information Emerges in Death of Pastor’s Wife
05:29 - Kim K Slammed For Saying “Free Everybody” In Response to Pro-Palestine Protestor
08:23 - Man Recovers After Nearly Drowning When Friend Pushed Him Into Lake
10:50 - Sponsored by ZocDoc
11:59 - Picasso Painting Moved to Bathroom So Art Exhibit Can Remain Women-Only
15:29 - Social Security Payouts Could Be Cut By 17% by 2035
18:23 - Comment Commentary
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Produced by: Cory Ray
Edited by: James Girardier, Maxwell Enright, Julie Goldberg, Christian Meeks, Matthew Henry
Art Department: William Crespo
Writing/Research: Philip DeFranco, Brian Espinoza, Lili Stenn, Maddie Crichton, Chris Tolve, Jared Paolino
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Most people had no idea who the lady in Baby Reindeer was. She just outed herself.
She should have stayed silent and understand what she really did to him.
Exactly 😂
💯
Haven't even seen the show, didn't plan on watching it, but now I know who she is XD
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Wild that she is focusing on the jail part and not the stalking and harassing part. Like yeah, I stalked this man and harassed his family and partner but I didn’t go to jail!!!
Yeah it almost makes it worse 😂
As someone who lived across the street from a person with a crazy stalker, there's basically nothing that can be done against stalkers legally. Stalking carries very minor charges even if property damage and harassment is involved, so if they do serve time it's minimal, similar to SA crimes, people are more worried about the stalker's future.
To be fair, defamation is really hard to win so lawyers advisor their clients to focus on the easiest claims to prove. The jail claim is an easy claim to prove defamation because it is documented and there are not that many arguments you can used against it. For the stalking one, a easier argument against it is that the defense could claim they felt their life was threaten and being stalked. Now she could argue the stalking charges are a lie but I am guessing there is paperwork for a restraining order which does not need that much evidence to get. All in all, I am not following the story that closely but if I had to make an educated guess this would be it.
@@kenyagrant2727It's like she's bragging.
Your friends watched ?!? Whatvtheee fuck 10:53
As a former qualified life guard. The “friends” who pushed that guy into the water should be jailed. Not one of them jumped in to save him. Waiting for 10 mins is stupid. If this ever happens to you. if the person doesn’t resurface after a few seconds you jump into to help them or if you can’t help them in the water, call for help.
That's what terrifies me like I know I'm not a strong swimmer but if I ever saw one of my friends go under the moment I couldn't reach them I would be screaming like a maniac and running like a chicken with his head cut off yelling for help if I found out after a coma my friends Let Me Drown for 10 minutes I would be passing out AWs
Shreveport is kinda known for stupid & shitty people
Being formerly trained in emergency services and safety management we were taught never to jump in a water if someone is drowning if you’re not properly trained you would just get in the way… that being said WHY DIDN’T THEY CALL FOR ANYONE
Long story time: Many years ago now, a surfer was drowning in my hometown (along Lake Michigan). A group gathered on the pier, helplessly watching the man get battered with the waves into the pier, dragged out a bit, and repeat. A man who'd been walking the pier with his s/o suddenly jumped in to help. Now, there were 2 drowning young men in the lake. A few of my friends were there, teens at the time, and they used the emergency phone located on the pier to notify Coast Guard. USCG pulled up on the other side of the pier from drowning victims & threw life rings to my friends to throw to the men. Thankfully, they were both rescued in good condition, and it resulted in our city installing life rings along the pier. There have been many others here who weren't so "lucky," however.
Long story longer - I agree with what's been said. If you CAN rescue, rescue; if not, seek a rescuer ASAP.
The lady outed herself as the stalker in an effort to sue, when the show didn't even name her or anything 😂
reminds me of Legion from the "who the f did I marry?" tiktoks
All this is the Barbara Streisand effect. She's stupid to draw attention to this.
She has no case cause the story is based on true events and not a documentary. good luck girl there is no money to be had here.
@@Arthera0 Even if it was a documentary, there's no actual factual standard they need to meet to use the term 'documentary' to describe something.
That's why she has no case. The judge will see that she ran to Daily Mail and TV shows, so clearly she doesn't care about her privacy.
Those 'friends' of Chris saying they thought he was fooling around in the water. That could hold up for a 30 seconds, maybe but TEN MINUTES!? No way.
Glad to hear he is recovering, I hope he finds real friends.
Seriously. And those girls had on swimsuits, so WTF were they doing?
Trying to murder someone and get away with it because "teehee we're just harmless women"?
I'm sorry but this is beyond negligent.
No one can seriously see someone in the water for such a long time and claim they thought it was a joke. They're not 10 years old when you're maybe not knowing better.
They are not his friends. They acted as enemies
exactly. the focus seems to only be on the woman who pushed him, but we're totally glossing over the fact that none of his other friends who stood on the shore line in their bathing suits went into the water to get him or went to get help. They all stood there watching him die like it was reality tv. They all deserve to be punished, if I'm being totally honest.
I'm curious what happened though, was he not thrashing and struggling? The story makes it sound like he just casually sunk like a rock.
I never understood the cap on social security tax. Why do rich people get so many tax breaks as if they're the ones who need money???
Cause they are the ones making the laws & loopholes.
Because they pay the politicians to give them those tax breaks- I-I mean they donate to their campaign for no specific reason
*Imagine outing yourself as a stalker cuz you were mad about a depiction of yourself on a drama series. Like the zodiac killer revealing himself after a movie depiction 😂*
As a life guard, the longest 7 seconds of my life were 7 seconds I thought a boy was messing with me by purposefully swimming at the bottom of the pool. I went in and got him, he had water in his lungs, the first step before losing consciousness. Those friends are some real monsters.
I was a lifeguard at the local pool and people don't realize that drowning is not usually a big, splashy event - which makes it even harder to identify. I pulled a young boy out who seemed to be trying to slowly climb through the water. It was creepy, tbh. He coughed a bit when we got him out, but thankfully no other measures were necessary. Scared the crap out of my teenage self.
@@semievilsquirrelI was a lifeguard for ~5 years in HS/college at a neighborhood pool. Had 6 or so saves in that time. Most were easy to see since I was familiar with the weak swimmers & recognized when they got too deep. I had a few saves as I was older, one was a non swimming couple at the beach at low tide, that couldn’t stand later in the day when tide came in. We had a group of college friends pounding beers on the sand bar all day (July 4th), 2 former lifeguards in the group went full Baywatch & pulled the couple in. The other was just a few summers ago while on a float trip. That was one of the only scary ones, since it involved a powerful current & two early teens kids who had tipped their canoe.
I may be weird for saying this but why would you go around in standing body of water when you can't swim? It just seems like super unnecessary risk of death for a mild time with your friends...
My sister almost died because a lifeguard did not try to help her.
@@yungjc2You are victim blaming.
I can’t wrap my head around the nearly drowning case, especially when you think about how long a minute takes to tick by. To stand there minute after minute as your friend is underwater, and for that to last TEN WHOLE MINUTES? Surely that goes past ‘thinking it’s a joke’. At the very least it’s criminally negligent. Shout out to the banf who saw what was going on and jumped in to help. I’m truly relieved Chris recovered and perhaps in time he’ll be able to share his own story regarding what happened.
Yeah if he did come up after a minute I'm jumping in. Rather find out it was joke than risk not acting in time
@@nicholascharles9625 - *didn't
Totally agree with what you meant to say.
If he can even remember what happened. And then have people speculate over his memory if his perspective paints them in a bad light..
It was in Louisiana. They are just like Florida people. My family on my Grandma's side lives in Northern LA and I spent a summer there......the whole south is full of backwards, stupid and a generation behind the times.
I’m glad he’s making a recovery. That’s insane none of his friends helped.
I grew up swimming and have always been a good swimmer. That said, I've nearly drowned twice after getting pushed in water. Because you're caught off guard, you dont always have time to catch your breath, so you inhale water. You're disoriented and try to center yourself, but your gravity is different and now you can't tell which way is up for air.
"But you're a good swimmer" is not an excuse, DON'T PUSH PEOPLE INTO WATER! These were poor friends, not only for waiting so long to act, but acting without thinking. What Chris went through is a terrifying experience, and no joke is worth that price. So glad he survived, and hope that he gets the support he needs to thrive and grow. ❤️
Edit: spelling
Exactly!! 👏👏
Naaaaah cause as a good swimmer being pushed should be like jumping in. You should be able to close your mouth in that window and break surface really easily. This is a poor comparison. You act like being pushed is gonna drag someone down 😂
As a person that almost drowned in 2020..the amount of people who ive told my story to that said''but you CAN swim howd you almost drown?''is more than the ones who havent.I'm always amazed at the audacity of humans to think that we are invincible to mother natures forces JUST because we can swim,as if we can't just as easily DROWN.
@@GhostOfBuscemi you sound like one of those people who thinks they could beat a horse in unarmed combat 😂😂😂 wait until you get in an actual dangerous situation and realize your anime instincts wont kick in to save you 💀
I CANNOT believe those people just sat there and let that man drown. That is insane. They thought it was a prank? He was down there for like 15-20 minutes!!! What is wrong with those people??
I went to high school and college with Chris and have been following the incident since the beginning. The most insane part to me has been that on April 15th the family’s lawyer made a post that said the cops stated that they wanted to “hear Chris’ side of the story”before they came to any conclusions. This was when he was still very much in a coma and no one was sure he would make it. The “friends” statements had already changed and there was a confession to pushing him in. There is so much that can be said for how poorly the police have handled this and how none of his “friends” helped him. It was two strangers that jumped in to save him.
Now his focus is on recovery but he also turned 26 this year and was working on his education. He no longer has health insurance from his family so he has set up a go fund me to help because we know his bills will be astronomical
I’m shocked people are even legally allowed to ignore a drowning man. Where I come from, there is a legal duty to help a person in immediate danger, and not doing so can get you three years in prison.
While the police actions may seem infuriating depending on the jurisdiction and department if the victim is still alive they are still required to at least attempt to get a statement from them. Also with this being a drowning, an accident still has to be ruled out. Remember the criminal standard is beyond reasonable doubt and I can imagine any half decent lawyer pulling a horseplay defense along with "fight or flight" to explain the lack of response.
Do you have the link to his go fund me?
I wish I could sit with him and just explain that he will recover, he can recover, but he'll never be the same person again that he was before this happened. Something very similar happened to me, almost three years ago at the end of June, in fact. Not by drowning, but because of the cancer I'm going to have to live with for the rest of my days. I went into cardiac arrest while at a hospital and they managed to bring me back. I wasn't expected to make it either, but I did. Took me months to be able to stand again, to walk again. Priorities change after something like that. It's to be expected.
@@metEvie it's because unless you know what you are doing it can just make the situation worse, at least what I waa taught when I got lifeguard certified like 15 years ago now. That said, at minimum they should have called for help.
The baby reindeer situation makes my blood boil. This is a piece of his pain and experience and is suppose to bring light to victims of stalking (both the stalker who is unwell and the actual victim). Instead of taking accountability to the hurt she caused this man, she doubles down and makes herself the victim? I hope if she does go to court they throw this shit out. She deserves jail time at this point as it shows she sees nothing wrong with what she did to this man.
I mean given the show, are we surprised she's like that?
Women almost never face the consequences when they commit crimes against men. That she's making herself the victim and faced no consequences for her actions is pretty much par for the course of female abuser these days.
I’m extremely surprised to see a woman taking your stance
also wild that she only has beef with the portrayal of jail time and not the other shit speaks volumes.
Is there proof that she actually did anything? Or is it just accusations?
honestly making the art project a toilet is one of the funniest things I've seen
The unknown future of Social Security is scary and grim. I’m 28 years old, and despite having what is considered a “decent job,” I am convinced that I will never own a home and will never receive Social Security.
As a millennial, I've always been told that Social Security would run out well before my retirement age. It always feels like the government doesn't want people on Social Security so that they can continue to raid it like it's their personal bank account. The entire system feels rigged and pointless
same in Canada, tbh.
I've been this as well my entire life. Personally, I doubt it'd ever get completely removed, just whiddled away until it's mostly pointless
It’s Republicans who don’t want people to get SSA benefits, they have been trying to destroy the program since it was started. They even tried creating a closed (also called shadow) committee to destroy it recently.
America's health and social security is a joke. As a cancer patient on social security disability there is just no way, living with my family we still barely got by, there was no easy solution and if I worked (and my God I wanted to work to help and actually have a comfortable life with chemo treatments) but couldn't make more then a certain amount, but the coverage I did have didn't cover everything making it hard to pay bills at time. And with both of those headaches ironically and stupidly enough the disability I was receiving was $200 too much to receive help for my transplant so I'm not even done with treatments. The unneeded stress my family I have gone through because of how ridiculous the rules, restrictions, and the lack of help from social security themselves on how to navigate between them the insurance and the hospitals. Also seeing almost every nurse, specialized nurses having to leave to convenient er's because they don't get paid enough and some doctors just never being there months on end then go on vacation for another three months while I'm stuck in the hospital wishing I could win the lottery or die so my family wouldn't have to be burdened anymore.
I understand trying to get more money by raising the taxable income... But it does make me angry that I'm paying into something I'll never have.
Ok but would anyone honestly be shocked if Piers Morgan DID take advantage of someone's mental state???
Not at all.
I'd be more surprised if he didnt.
She could have not gone on
trueeeeeeeeee
Yep, of course its Piers. He's never met a barrel he didn't have a burning urge to find the bottom of.
As a guy, the story about Australian woman keeping men out of the art installations was absolutely hilarious. She's right, the discrimination IS part of the art. It is absolutely hypocritical to sue her business for discrimination when there are 'gentlemen clubs' which don't allow women in. Any argument anyone can make for them can be made in this case, too. I hope the higher courts in Australia don't view the case as narrowly as "does it discriminate? Yes. Bad." Also, the malicious compliance was top-notch! Hats off, she's playing 4D chess.
This feels eerily similar to the recent "Would you rather be alone with a strange man or a bear?" thing. Where, as soon as women chose bear, men showed them reasons for why they were right in choosing the bear. Discrimination against women has existed for centuries, if not millennia, but fuck women if they try to play the same game but better.
Nice, fight sexism with sexim, makes sense
I'm getting sick of the government saying I'm not gonna get my social security when I retire. Why am I paying in to it if I'm not going to benefit?
so old and disabled people can get it now what u pay in goes to the disabled and elderly and what the future people put in would have gone to you if it was funded but th SSI tax cap lets rich people dodge the old requirements that kept it running also inflation has already made the system not work bc they will never keep up with cost of living so basicly u pay as its your social responsibility and you dont want the old system because it was worse same thing with schools people with no kids still taxed for those
@smokedbeefandcheese4144 I'm all for helping out others for sure 💛. My problem is that the government "borrowed" billions of dollars to fund other programs and now they're saying they can't pay us back.
I can't even imagine being pushed into the water by a "friend" and then fighting to not drown for so long while all of the people around you stand and watch. I hope his recovery goes well, he's able to find some kind of justice, and is able to trust again. That's sick.
Remember that girl who was pushed off a bridge and almost was unalived? Her “friend” only got 3 days in jail. How we haven’t learned from these situations to hold people accountable is beyond me.
Yes, but also, if you cannot swim you should not be anywhere near deep water, trying to recue a drawning individual is extremely dangerous and should only be attempted by a trained professional.
@@Somerandomguy524she shouldn’t have pushed him in. It would be different if he just fell in. She should face some consequences.
@@Somerandomguy524how do you even make it about the person who was assaulted
@@deldel5204 Prison is for rehabilitation not punishment.
2:35 Netflix has a great point; generalizing or anonymizing too much makes it not his story anymore. The very fact that she didn't go to jail is proof that they did fictionalize the story in ways to make it harder to find out who it is. Obviously if she did go to jail, it'd be easier to figure it out.
Exactly reminds me of when people are mocked in stand up and a story about them having a small penis means they won’t sue usually because they not gonna claim
That is them, that someone talking about 😂
yup and her doing this feels like it very much fits the personality of the "fictionalized" one.
He also has a right to tell his own story, and the fact that it's not a 1-1 of what actually happened doesn't matter.
@@stephenrobinson8244 haha yeah, body shaming is tight!
This comment made me realize she was trying to have it both ways... on the one hand she's complaining they made it too easy to identify her, and on the other she says they didn't depict her exactly enough?!? Girl.... I'd give her the benefit of the doubt IF internet sleuths were able to find and bully her BEFORE she came out, but the Pier Morgan of it all makes it REALLY hard to have any sympathy.. she doesn't want justice, she just wants another piece of him she doesn't deserve with that lawsuit. I really wish people would leave her alone though, clearly this woman is unwell and this whole circus is probably making it a lot worse. There's plenty other villains in the world that we can go after before ganging up on an aging mentally ill woman... People should focus on the message and not try to play keyboard avengers.
I think the argument for the art installation is so good. In theory there could be nothing behind the door and the entire piece could just be men experiencing what it feels like to be denied entry somewhere.
I disagree, sexism is inexcusable even in this situation. You don't get to enact sexist behavior and scream for equality at the same time. You want better, be better. You're not enlightening sexists by doing this, you're just further being sexist.
“Martha” coming out and revealing her identity and saying all of those things straight up proves that everything written about her character in the show was absolutely true.
It’s absolutely insane that my boss and ELON FRIGGIN MUSK pay the same amount in social security taxes each year - like what!?! Working in payroll since I was 19 (I’m in my mid 40s now) I have been telling everyone I know that the fix for social security is sooo simple!! I think if the general public knew about how low the cutoff for social security tax liability is there would be an uproar!!
That is absolutely insane, I have to laugh or I might cry lmao
As someone who works in payroll, I know exactly what you talking about lol. It’s actually insane that we have a cap that low, that a billionaire will pay no more than your well paid middle manager.
The law would need to be completely rewritten to up the amount paid into social security. Because it would also mean they would collect more once they reach the correct age.
For people who can't swim, here is a tip that may save your life.
Keep your chest up (parallel to the sky). It will keep you afloat without the need to "swim" until help arrives.
Always remain calm.
Less movement= less energy waste, which will avoid muscle fatigue.
Calm is key in the water. This should be taught to kids in school along with stop, drop and roll. Humans float as long as their breathing.
I've actual had to put out a person on fire and I didn't have to go to a class to learn what to do, it was smashed into my head all through elementary school.
This and stay away from cold bodies of water. The colder the water the harder it is to swim and you can succumb to fatigue very quickly. Even if you're a strong swimmer, cold water can sap your strength like nothing else. I had it happen to me, I was just lucky my dad was nearby to swim me to shore.
lol bro was under water for 10 mins?!?! did his "friends" think he's aquaman?
I can swim, but I cannot, at all, float (anymore). I'm built like a twig with a bunch of bricks strapped on. My arms and legs pull me under, so even with full lungs of air and my chest parallel to the sky I can only just very barely keep my face above water and I have to kick a few times every 5 seconds or so.
So for anyone else built like a skeleton with rocks taped to it who *can't* swim, do what this person said but spread your arms and legs as much as you can, kick every couple of seconds, and know that even if *just* your nose is above water at least you can still breath as long as you, as this person also said, stay calm.
@@NikkiBudders the shock of cold water is intense too. The best of swimmers will freeze up and panic in it. I live on Lake Superior and even as a strong swimmer I only go waste deep in it even in late summer.
a) Back in law school, I think one of the most common bits of advice we were given was “never represent yourself” because it’s a recipe for disaster, so Harvey being ready to do that in a case like this is wild to me.
b) I’m not seeing where she could have a defamation case against Gadd or Netflix. Like, short of making the character a completely different person, what else could they have done to preserve her anonymity? They even tried to stop people from tracking her down later on. She might have a case against the people who first outed her, provided she could even track them down.
conversely, ive had nothing but disasters when hiring lawyers.
the fact that doctors probably told the family that it was time to unplug him.... then for him to come back to life is CRAZY.... makes you think about the thousands of other cases where people could have woken up....
I literally GASPED when you said that med student is recovering that is incredible and I'm so happy for him and his family ❤
One thing ive noticed is there is a section of people who find out you can't swim they'll then make it their mission to attempted to murder you as a prank. I don't know if its because some people don't understand how quickly flailing in water turns to drowning or they're just that wicked but its crazy.
It's like those people who put things that you're allergic/don't like to in food to see if you're lying
@@gendyendy Or the people who ask if you're ticklish, I think it's where it all comes from
Oh yes they think it’s embarrassing or something. Or they want to make you pay for not having a skill? Fuck em
Its because people who can swim feel like it's a natural skill that everyone is born with. Growing up I was kind of a dick to people who couldn't swim or ride a bike but now that I'm older I realize they actually can't swim or ride a bike.
@@JohnSmith-lc1mlno that’s just you. Some people don’t live near bodies of water or places that have pools (ymca, gyms, rich people, etc) and those places might be too expensive or otherwise inaccessible
Thanks for talking about the MONA update on how petty (compliment) the curator was being; it truly made my day.
Why is nobody talking about the bathrooom Lady. She's ICONIC!
A lot of people don't realize it's not just retirees that collect social security and Medicare, it's the disabled too. I had to stop working at 29 due to the progression of my MS and my whole existence is dependent on Social Security and Medicare. There was a huge influx of disabled people with the pandemic too due to long covid. If society is truly judged by how it cares for those in need, at minimum the wage cap needs raised. I learned a lot about how my worth in society is viewed over the last 4 years and too many forget, one day you will reach the age or health where you are also regarded as disposable
My mother put herself through college while raising 3 kids. Before that could pay off- BOOM! Permanently disabled in her 30s, and in debt to the college besides.
Everyone but the wealthy and the dead will need medical care after they cannot work. Everyone but those few will not have enough $ to live off of after life has crippled them. The fact is that Congress knows this and *still* can’t bang their heads together hard enough to get a solution to spill out is just sad, really. Why even pretend they’re running a country? It’s all grandstanding and clap-backs there. Shameful.
Raising taxes for social security is a losing issue. People making 200k-400k aren’t even able to secure there own financial future, taxing them 3x the amount to cover SS will only make more people (these payers) dependent on the state in the long run. We need to decrease entitlements or grow the economy
@@Mcflush1 Uh, not sure what you're talking about there. People making $200k are already in the top 5% of all earners in the US, and people making $400k are in the top 1%. And GDP in the fourth quarter of 2023 was up 3.3% while we added 2.7 million jobs to the economy in 2023.
One of the issues of funding Social Security is the reduced effective tax rate of the upper 20%. We wouldn't be able to sustain the highest rates like those back in the '50s, but taxing income on individuals and businesses that are in the top fifth even 5% more than what they pay now would fund Social Security for decades.
@@Mcflush1 nobody is saying tax them 3x anything. Right now, any income above the cap isn't taxed for SS at all. The fact that you are making arguments for those making well into 6 figures shows that the wealth disparity truly is willful ignorance as almost anyone collecting benefits would never even dream to make that amount that is so difficult to build a future on
@@betht1983 if you go to the timestamp 17:44 you would see that taxpayer B’s social security taxes would go from 10k -> 31k. Aka 3x their current amount, I made absolutely zero up.
How horrifying it must be to know your 'friends' stood around for 20 minutes while you're drowning, only for a complete stranger to come and save you. Wishing Chris a speedy recovery and I hope he gets new real friends
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This might sound harsh, but I see it as a major red flag when an adult can’t swim …like what happens if someone pushes you in the water or something?? I mean of course it’s terrible that his friends are bad people, but still
@MaidenHelll not you victim blaming?? I also can't swim, does that mean i deserve to drown and die??😊
@@MaidenHelll swimming is actually inaccessible to many underprivileged communities! It requires access to an affordable community pool, and either paid lessons or someone who knows how to swim to teach the child. If you are born into a family living in a community without affordable acess to water, no one in your life knows how to swim, and you can't afford lessons, it makes it quite difficult. Pair it with the fact that people might be embarrassed or afraid of being judged for being an adult that doesn't know how to swim. If his friends cared, they would have saved him or taught him how to swim instead of pushing him in.
The art installation lady is HILARIOUS!! I love how she's turning every part of this into some creative outlet / just being maliciously compliant. "What will she do next!?" kind of feeling. Very fun!
not so fun keeping art away from people who want to appreciate it. You want to address discrimination by... additional discrimination?
@@pipuk3Yeah I’m sure men not being able to see this one Picasso piece is a detriment to every art appreciator out there, somewhat an ironic take given Picasso’s life and views on women. Also lowkey a privileged take to have to worry about getting to see a Picasso artwork or not.
I disagreed with the discrimination at first until I found out that was the ethical, historical, and artistic point. As a man, she has my full support in all her brilliant endeavors.
So then would you be equally supportive of moving art pieces by people who had anti-male views to a men's restroom because 'excluding women would be the whole point '?
No one can say that woman in Tasmania with the art installation isn't ABSOLUTELY ICONIC 😅
I like how people believe that celebrities should simultaneously have no political opinions and the responsibility to platform political issues. Like, do they have the right to an opinion or not?
Exactly lmao.
People only wanna hear the opinions they agrees with
When they don’t agree it’s something like
“Love your music but please stay out of politics”
Seriously. If a celeb says they want EVERYONE to live in peace, they'd get slammed.
I wasn't aware that wanting everyone to be happy was a soulless, debatable opinion.
If you don't choose a side, your essentially a terrible human being, instead of you know, someone that believes we all live in the grey, where there's no right or wrong side, just two sides... That have both done right and wrong.
Honestly who cares what they think anyway. Unless they’re acting doing something saying “Free Palestine” means nothing
Yeah, the global hive mind should pick one option about how celebrities should behave.
@@MadLustEnvy exactly like I’m pro Palestine but I’m anti war I’m pro human rights and it doesn’t take a fucking genius to realize this war isn’t good for anyone not Israelis and especially not Palestinians.
I think the problem people tend to have is the power dynamics between Palestine self determination and Israelis occupation is so just complex and one side is so much more powerful than the other.
People gotten mad at me for being anti war between Ukraine and Russia I don’t like the United States funding another proxy war just to send young men on Both sides into a meat grinder essentially
Putin is a piece of shit but it should be focused on ending the war as soon as possible and coming to some sort of resolution that saves lives instead of throwing a match into the tinder box
Same thing with what’s going on in the Middle East.
But unfortunately people have to much money to be made in war . I see both escalating even more before anything gets any better
As someone who can barely swim, and has been pushed into the water as a 'prank' only to be rescued after nearly drowning myself; there is an absolute 0% chance that wasn't mentioned at the dock at least a few times. pushing someone into deeper waters like that is a huge dick move at best and deadly at worst. I think there should be at least SOME consequences for people that do this.
As someone who's been swimming for their entire life, you learn to respect the water for what it is. While beautiful as hell, it can and will kill you if you lose your respect for it.
The woman should be charged with reckless endangerment at the very least.
Water is as much of a weapon as any other part of the environment.
“At least” is so crazy. She should go to jail. He almost died and they just left him to die.
As someone who both knows how to swim and has a brain, even if they thought it was a prank at first, or if he said he couldn't swim and they thought he was lying...surely 10-20 minutes is too long to wait. I'd wait MAX 1-2 minutes before jumping in after him, whether he threw himself in or someone else pushed him.
Fr tho, how can you not swim? I feel like its a thing that everyone can just naturally do even as kids.
There's actually 100% a chance. It's not his fault though and most people don't think of water as a deadly risk. I absolutely think they're foolish for what they did but I don't think it's morally or ethically acceptable to treat it like attempted murder.
Also, learn how to swim.
I love that lady that has the exhibit in the MONA she is a professional troll and excelling at it. I'm not even mad at her dedication.
Who would be mad at the dedication? We're mad because discrimination is immoral. Especially in the context of publicly funded institutions, especially in the context of hosting classics like Picasso.
The fact that the young man who drowned actually survived is incredible. I hope he makes a full recovery and goes on to become a doctor. And I hope he finds new friends.
I vaguely remember in Elementary sitting in the front row SQUINTING at the whiteboard trying to SEE the notes being written. After an embarrassing few weeks of being ridiculed for being 'lazy' and a recommendation from the school nurse to get prescription glasses, as soon as I put them on it was like that Disney Song from Aladdin, 'A Whole New World'! I could sit at the BACK of the class and see the notes CLEARLY!
Eye, Ear, and Teeth health should absolutely be one whole package, because I remember in late High School years I was on the verge of bad gum disease because I kept neglecting to brush my teeth, and that was a huge turning point for me hearing, 'If you don't brush DAILY, your teeth will start to fall out', and now my teeth are the healthiest part of my body!
Lol...I just accepted it. Was raised to cope. Child support was for moms outings to lurk cracheads from bars.
Whiteboard was always blurry. Still no glasses at 30.
Top tip, if someone's drowing don't swim to them. Chances are they'll drown you in their panic and desperation.
If you have something like a board or lifebuoy give them that.
But don't do nothing for 20 minutes.
Not true. You are supposed to wait until they tire themselves out because they could pull you under in their panicked thrashing. Not do nothing.
But the fact that the dude sank so far tells me he wasn’t thrashing at all.
don't do nothing for 20 mins, but don't go after them. Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Did you see any ropes or boards near them? You are disgusting
When I did a surf lifesaving certificate (Bronze Medallion, it's an Australian thing...) we were taught to approach the drowning from behind whenever possible.
Lifeguard training teaches you to approach from behind, grab under their arms, lean back, and kick to safety. If they are frantic, they will try to push you down to stay above water. Swim down & out, and start over, & try to calm them. Pull them in by their hair or arm or anything you can, or do the proper procedure if they go unconscious & perform CPR once ashore. Any competent swimmer could execute these common sense methods of recovery.
@@TheGuardian_TM that's what I said!
Did my Bronze Medallion at Bunbury Surf Club! Well, the facilities, I wasn't a clubbie, but one of my highschool classes (Outdoor Ed) the Bronze Medallion was one of the courses.
Please make that piece about the Tasmanian art museum its own separate short because I would love to share it with some people.
As an Australian, it is absolutely wild to me that there are adults in the world who don't know how to swim. Every year in school from 1-8 we spent 2 weeks learning how to swim
You have no idea how much relief I felt that Chris Gilbert survived. I hope justice gets made, and that he at least gets himself some ACTUAL friends. Who TF leaves someone underwater for more than 3 minutes because "it might be a prank"?
in the us I can garuntee the person with the least money will be held responsible even though the place had no rail
The fact that Fiona self-reported herself despite of not being mention speaks volumes about how stalkers or abusers are confronted when the truth of their disgusting behavior and deeds are surfaced to the public and would use the victim card an attempt to hide away the behavior they commited upon the true victim.
It's embarrassing for Fiona and she should have kept quiet because now a lot more know what she has done and it will be forever displayed on the internet as a cautionary tale to stay safe and alert.
We all know that movies are fake.... but the internet is forever.... she played herself for that 10sec of fame.... flatout admitting she never gone to jail for this...
keep in mind she was getting death threats
To bad she was not hot. People don't get mad at hot female stalkers.
IDK, if you're falsely portrayed, that's enough to get angry. I don't think her response in any way indicates that she did it. I'm not saying she didn't. She probably did the things or many of the things in the show, but her reaction isn't indicative of whether she did or didn't.
@@turinturambar347it kinda is tho…. dk what you’re thinking bro
Wait wait so you're telling me celebrities dont really care what we believe in. Oh my god, we got to take this "new" information to the press and tell everyone.
Who is this "we" u are referring to... U will find many regular folks don't believe in what "you" believe in.
“Regular folks” are dumb - a regular folk
R/woshhhh
The Australian ruling citing that its discrimination to ban men from a pay-to-enter lounge, despite there already existing clubs that ban women there TO THIS DAY would be hilarious if it weren’t so depressing. They can look at the clear double standard for what it is and still somehow decide to enforce it instead of fixing it.
In Tasmania, there isn't any gentlemans clubs that don't also permit women entry, atleast within my brief googling.
In Australia, very few operate as men-only now.
Despite their existence, the key difference is funding, Musuems in Tasmania are publicly funded via grants given by Arts Tasmania and the Department of State Growth. Any publicly funded institution discriminating on the basis of any intrinsic characteristic is illegal, and immoral. In the US this is a clear Title IX violation.
Not only that, are any of these gentleman clubs hosting timeless classics like Picasso? Doubt it.
@@virno69420 I have no issue with men or women only establishments. But to lock something that is meant for all is stupid.
I remember the real Martha complaining that the actress used in the show was an unattractive/not appropriate representation. This is mean, but I'll just say it: the actress looks 10x better than the real Martha.
EDIT: Inside AND outside, the actress is much better than Martha. Martha opened up the line to criticise her looks once she started commenting on someone else's appearance.
She brought it on herself by insulting the actress
Daaaaaaaang! Lol
I saw her. And I thought. The heck. She looks just as heavy which is no issue. And way less pretty.
Change your profile pic if you're gonna say something like that.
Well, she said she’s also suing Netflix over the poor portrayal of herself but the problem is no one would’ve known it was her unless she came forward which she did
On the Chris Gilbert story..
ALL THOSE PEOPLE STANDING AROUND. HIS "FRIENDS".
AND
NOT
ONE
jumped in to save him!?
Just left bro drowning for 10+minutes!?
What the actual fresh hell!?!
While I find it pretty unlikely that no one else there could swim, IF you cannot swim yourself you should never jump in to save someone in case you just create two drowning people for someone else to rescue. You'd think that if they couldn't swim they could at least run for help though???
Picture this. 4 year old swimming in the pool showing off how she can swim to her, mum, 3 favourite cousins, favourite aunt, and 2 uncles. She is really really bad at it, we are praising her when she suddenly turns red, her mum screams she's drowning and jumped in.
Yep kid watched her whole family watch her nearly drown for about 2 minutes whilst praising the kid.
@@julesmasseffectmusic that's horrible, but absolutely nothing like what happened here.
@@DerpDevilDD I know it's not the same, I just was pointing out drowning isn't always obvious to observers.
@@julesmasseffectmusic Why would you point that out when talking about a situation where it was absolutely obvious?
I love how they think it’s a problem now. What kind of problem do they think they will have when us “younger” people that have already paid thousands of dollars into SS demand the money that we paid into it
I love the idea of the art. They are so angry not being allowed in 💀
Hearing Chris came back from the brink of death tore me up!! So glad for him and his family!
There's nothing quite like putting on your first pair of glasses and realizing exactly how blind you were. I went from barely being able to drive without glasses to being able to see the individual shingles on rooftops halfway down the street with perfect clarity.
There’s nothing like waking up from a nap in the backseat on a road trip and you hear "Ooooh! Edges!" from the DRIVER as the PASSENGER hands over their glasses!!!
Needless to say, as soon as we reached our destination we delayed our trip to get Drivers eyes tested and a pair of glasses purchased all of their own!
This is true. I struggled so much my first semester of college bc that was when my eyesight was going noticeablely bad, and I had to adjust a lot in order to either get to class really early to get a good enough seat to see properly or I had to wait to borrow notes to copy for the class if I couldn't get a decent seat that day. That ended up having an extreme effect on my scheduling and time management.
I didn't have a chance to get glasses until holidays and it was an amazing change when I finally had glasses and was able to see everything on the board from across the room.
The first time I saw individual leaves on a tree from across the street I nearly cried at what I had missed my whole life.
@@em5522 same here. Turns out that I was the second blindest (in terms of distance clarity) in the class 😂 so the new glasses helped lol
I pay into social security every pay period; I'm 43 and have been working since 1997. I've been convinced since the early 2000s that I will never be able to retire. I will literally have to work until the day I'm physically unable to.
Hot take: It is not celebrities responsibility to make you feel better about the atrocities of the world.
I just want to note on the "she can't have committed suicide because she had plans that week" like all it takes is a second to go from having a good time and doing well to spiraling out of control. Having an appointment for a hairdresser doesn't magically make you not feel suicidal
Great point, I've had a number of friends pass away under these circumstances, and its always a shock. Many of my friends seemed "happy", mentioned plans for the future, sounded excited about plans and were genuinely good souls.
Lots of suicidal people are happier leading up to their death because they know it will be all over.
A couple times in my experience this has been guised as "selling my stuff to move away" which would usually be exciting but not in these cases.
Yeaaaa, all the rampant speculation is kind of gross. Truth is, none of us have any clue one way or the other and it's not really our business. If she did K/S herself, then all people are doing is making a hard time even harder. And if not, well, using flawed logic to try to prove a point only muddies the waters.
My mother got a job offer and was super excited about it the day before she took her own life. Depression is hell, I know that myself, and it just doesn't make sense sometimes.
You don't know just how much I had to scroll to see someone mention this, never mind even talking about the case in this episode.
This what has been bugging me about it from the first time I heard the story. I've known for a long time that a lot of suicides can seem sudden and unexpected, and a lot of family and friends will say "they made plans for the future" in response. I thankfully haven't lost people to suicide, but it has been close, and it was close that it happened to myself. I know for a fact that I would've rather pretended everything was okay and I was making plans with others for the future despite knowing I was going to end myself before those plans would happen. I understand the family and friends must be sad and shocked and want to find someone to blame, but I don't know if anyone outside the community has the right to speculate on it.
Like Phil said, the pastor could have abused her, and she still could've taken her own life. Both can be true. We can say it was weird how he decided to handle the news of his wife's death, but at the same time, people handle grief differently and we can't expect everyone to act the same. All this public speculation feels gross, especially when you know about how "true crime" can be online and go further with this. Especially if the two had kids.
Either way, if more things come out, more things will come out. I don't know these people, I don't know their everyday lives, and I won't try to speculate what happened too much. I just wanted to share my perspective on what we've seen so far, since I also struggled to find comments talking about the situation at all.
Phil out here pretending we don’t notice his new mustache.
Finally somebody said Somthing
That’s why I came to the comments! It’s in the weird stage of showing future potential, but right now it’s too light to be good.
It's awful. Hope he shaves it off asap. reminds me of my brother.
@@eyespliced reminds me of your MOM
@@eyespliced sorry intrusive thoughts be intruding
I love how your including us who watch you the following mornings! I listen to this show as I get ready for work. For the most part is great timing!
Shocking that we’re at the point now where “freedom for everyone” can be seen as offensive. People really be overreaching constantly
As someone who is turning 48 this year, was never taught about saving for retirement at all when I was younger, This social security thing is frightening. I started saving way too late, and then ended up blowing away a ton of it after getting laid off and spending a couple years fighting against the universe to find work, so retirement for me is looking like lean times.
46 currently and just started saving recently. I am terrified of the same things as you. Hoping things take a turn for the better for us both. 🙏 thank you for sharing
Turn 42 this summer and I can't afford to save until my car is paid off. I fear I'll be working until I die
I was a non-traditional college student and one of my freshman courses was all about finance and how to budget, avoid credit cards, and saving and investing properly. This class is meant for people in their early 20s, so to drive the point home about how they need to start now and not dig themselves into a hole, he compared how much you have to invest at 40 to retired comfortably to how much you need at 25. And I just sat back and went... well, I'm fucked.
GenX, Xennial, Millennial retirement plan: Work till you die, die early! Welcome to America!
I’m 27 and with cost of living I’ve barley been able to keep 3k in savings and I make $58k a year as a teacher. How the FUCK am I supposed to survive
One of my brothers when I was 7 or 8 years old, paid an older kid in my complex to push me into the deep end of our public swimming pool. I hit the water screaming and got a massive burst of chlorinated water in my throat. I didn't know how to swim. My brother who had this done was sitting in the corner watching me in my panic with the smuggest look on his face. I could have very easily drowned. I was flailing. I was doing everything wrong. The kid who pushed me was the one who got me out of the water and sat with me the entire time trying to make sure I was okay. He was so shaken and apologetic. He told me what my brother had said, and he kept saying "he didn't tell me you couldn't swim". He knew I couldn't. I had literally told him before we went to the pool.
A couple of weeks ago the same brother died and me and my other brothers are comforted by the fact he's probably in hell. Him having that kid do that to me doesn't even breach the top ten worst things he had ever done either. That kind of evil can live in the hearts of "friends" and "family". Blood might be thicker than water but evil hides in both.
I hope the lady is punished for what she did. He could have died and the fact he didn't doesn't suddenly make what she did any less harmful or worthy of scorn. Even if she didn't know he couldn't. That kid was in the pool hoisting me out in under a minute. They let him be in there for ten. Sick fuckers.
Actually, the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.
If you are comforted by the fact that someone is suffering (eternally), you may not treat people in your life as well as you think you do.
@@MrAdamo🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Looks like you never gotten over past experiences, you may want to find a person to talk to. Hope you find comfort in your life
Agreed. She earned herself (at the very least) probation, a fine, and community service. IDK her specific circumstances, but I don't care what her background is (affluent, middle class, poor), she should face the consequences of her actions. Just because you "accidentally" did something bad, does not negate the fact that you did something bad.
The navy ladies going to court was SO COOL
If women don't pay extra for the exclusive ability to keep their secret artroom, then it's just selective and exhibitionist discrimination.
The face I made when you said that young man lived. I almost started crying because as a mom I couldn’t even imagine. A horrible story with a hopeful ending.
Right? What a turn around! It's amazing that his mother didn't pull the plug by the 72 hour mark, he would be gone and she would never know that he would have made a turn around.
That's why I hate internet detectives... I'm no fan of pastors, but y'all immediately painted him as a murderer... As a husband do u understand how horrific that is? To deal with ur wife's suicide only for the world to say you murdered her? Y'all need to stop this
"Might as well face it, you're addicted to love!" That MTV music video came to mind! Lol
Phillips mustache looks like when I start a video game but the shaders haven't completely loaded in yet.
I'm excited for his dad moustache phase. I'm assuming he signed up to be the baseball coach for one of his kids.
@@purplekissy I think it will look great once it loads in!
You just cooked poor Phil my guy
Maybe let's not comment on the appearance of someone who has repeatedly asked us not to comment on his appearance.
He has that Cantinflas mustache
The Mica Miller story is very important in suicide awareness because it has been known for years that those who really want to go through with it will act like its everyday and leave no sign so they will not be signs.
I think those who say "she didnt seem like suicidal" are missing this.
Spot on ❤
It's not necessarily that they act like everything is fine to not alert people to it. Many times it is just a split second decision. Something seemingly innocuous can trigger a person, and they will go through with it. That's why it is often so difficult to prevent.
Rarely do people plan out the exact date or time. They will have a plan, and even have everything ready. But it needs a prolonged time of pain and desperation so great, that it is hard to imagine for those who have (thankfully) never experienced it, to push people to go through with it. It's actually really hard work to try and justify it to yourself - having to gaslight yourself in to thinking that you will not be missed, everyone would really be happier without you, no one will be traumatized by it, you're actually doing everyone a favor, you aren't hurting anyone you love with your action, etc. takes a lot of effort.
It is usually a lengthy process to get to that point, and the most dangerous things are random triggers and being alone that lead to going through with it.
I'm more hung up on the guys alibi being that he was with a woman he's romantically involved with
This is often the case, but I don't like the implication that people who don't hide it are always just wanting attention and not serious about going through with it.
I'm open to literally any possibility being the truth here, but I would share a personal experience where someone close with a mental illness received new medication, didn't like it so she stopped taking it, and then a few days later began to have delusions about her husband and began wandering around. She ended up in a hospital for a while and fortunately now is totally fine, but sometimes an episode just happens. And unless you can corroborate their story (i.e. did a mechanic actually find a tracker on her car, were there actual threatening texts that she had to block, etc., and the police would know this) you have to be cautious about what was being said. That said, there could be more to this story, but we have to hold out for the police to release more evidence because it can be really hard to be the spouse of someone with a mental illness.
So to speak on the guy who was pushed in the lake, this happened in the neighboring town over from where I live. Very heartbreaking to hear his situation, but very happy that he making a speedy recovery. To speak on the situation of friend groups here in Louisiana. With the state being as behind in technology and other things for people to do, at least in the Northern Part of the State, its very hard to move to a new friend group, until its to late. I come from a small village town here in Louisiana where we have 200 kids Pre-K through 12th grade, to put that into perspective, my graduating class was the largest in surrounding years and we had 20 people graduating. All of that to say that your friend groups here are very, VERY small, which leads most people to settle with who they have. I feel that was this guy's situation and I hate that it came to him almost dying for him to realize they cared nothing for him. Just a very sad situation.
I think that artist lady is amazing. I adore the showwomanship of it all. BRAVO!
Martha (Fiona) is doing exactly what the depiction of Martha WOULD DO lmfao BANANAS!! 😂
The problem with this society is that we get angry at celebrities for not speaking out on important global events. Instead of being angry at the people who could actually do something like politicians
You can be upset with multiple people at once. Those upset with celebrities for not using their platform to spread awareness tend to also be the ones demanding politicians take action. I think it’s also a matter of soft vs hard power. Legislators can write and enact laws, but movie stars and athletes can influence how people feel about certain issues. Demanding action from both is just using multiple ways to achieve the same goal.
^^^^ This 100%. I hold both accountable because they each have different abilities and rolls in enacting change.
@@0EZaid0 What if she just legitimately wants the citizens of Israel and Palestine to both be safe? So many pro-Palestinians talk about wiping Israel off the map which would quite literally guarantee the death of a massive portion of the Israeli population; why does she have to support that side?
I think there are two things aboit that. One is that people seeing the sheer difference with flashy celebrities compared to the people suffering makes people angry quickly. Politicians don't often flaunt their wealth so openly so people don't have that visual trigger.
Second is that people ARE angry at Politicians, but often they don't get their main money from the people, it's from donors. So they often don't care if some people are mad at them. Never mind that many are extremely old and probably don't go on social media that much. They likely have assistants that take care of that.
I think people see celebrities as the rich that could actually get stuff done. Look at Kim K helping to get people out of prison who shouldn't be there.
What we need is a push for bottom up change. Small government needs to start the change and work it's way up to the top, not the other way around.
That's what happens when you worship celebrities as gods. You begin to believe your own delusion.
My dad is 65 and owns his own business, I’m 24 and just started what will likely be my life job and we have conversations about social security and retirement often. He didn’t have the financial literacy available to him when he was my age so he started contributing to his retirement accounts extremely late in life and will have a decent bit but not enough for him and my mom, a year younger than him, to rely on thus very much needing their social security in order to simply live once they retire. He tells me all the time how scared he is for me as I don’t even think about social security as I’m all but sure it’ll be gone by the time I’m his age but also for himself, he doesn’t know what will happen in the next decade of his life. Is disgraceful how we, all generations, are simply told if you want to make money, work yet when we do that and earn an honest living the government at a snap of their fingers can turn around and say sorry about that we can’t do anything about it. So unbelievably frustrating to watch my parents and people my age not know what their long or short term future holds because of the nonsense we deal with in this country.
As a non-westerner, it always amuses me seeing who the pro-Palestine protesters are in the west. Knowing what'd happen to them if they actually go to Palestine.
You know he told them he couldn't swim and then she pushed him in! Then they all stood there for 20 freaking minutes and didn't do a thing to help him! That is insane.
Still his own fault for being there if he couldn’t swim. Keeping stereotypes alive.
sounds like they didn’t truly like him, he needs new friends asap
@@A3421 wow people like you ... rotflmfao when karma finds you
@@A3421 you sound absolutely stupid
@@A3421RACIST
In regards to the pastor and his late wife, it really shows how difficult it is to tell when people are suicidal. The original video showed someone saying "This was a person making plans/planning to live!" Yeah, that's quite common with people who are suicidal. They are masters at hiding how mentally unwell they are and continue to make plans like normal.
It also shows ppl need to stop running to TikTok and turning every situation into a true crime episode... Most things are what they appear to be... To automatically accuse a husband of murder is fucking insane!
Not gonna lie... That move to make the display into a bathroom is fucking GENIUS! 🤣
I just think it’s weird her husband is making announcements before the police are done investigating
@@wajmgirl well obviously he knew it was a suicide
Honestly when I was planning on taking my life I made sure that I was keeping up a "happy front" and making sure no one would expect anything by telling them plans I had. I didn't want anyone to suspect anything because then they couldn't really stop me.
Every update to this art story the more I love it lol
In regards to the Tasmanian museum story, I firmly believe that the solution to discrimination is NOT more discrimination.
It's not that we "think social security won't be around" for us. They told us it won't. Official social security letter sent out few years ago that told me that there won't be money when I retire. Said funds should be depleted about 10yrs prior. We're not guessing and panicking for nothing.
The story of the man being pushed into water, and then not saved by every single one of his friends is horrifying. Especially because they didn’t even face any charges. I’m so happy he pulled thru, and wish I could’ve been there to help.
Just because none of them have been charged yet doesn't mean they won't.
There was a similar incident a while back and the "friend" was eventually charged. It took a while to get to that point though.
@@turinturambar347 hmnm why cant the well off med student swim i think he had bad parents who didnt teach him basic survival skills
@@turinturambar347 oh man I hope so. Anything else is…unconscionable
Wait, so "free all" is not allowed now? General peace around the world is not allowed to be asked for?
Christ I never thought I'd agree with Kim in my entire god damn life...
imagine being dehumanized to the point that people would actually watch you drown, but still call you 'friend'.
I'm 58. I've been told since the 80's that "Social Security will be bankrupt before you ever see it." Do we need to raise the cap? Of freaking course.
Hell I'm just hoping for my job to keep paying into my pension
You'll be fine, so long as you're smart enough to push for change in your country.
@@renclave Easier said then done in america
@@photofreak56 Won't get any doing done while you're still talking, will you?
yeah, well ya'll also had better pay and cost of living when you were told that. POLITICIANS are admitting SS is fucked. You old people are so blinded by your lost past you can't see what's going on now.
Thr med student story is such a close parallel to thr story from 5 of so yesrs back about the girl who is pushed off a cliff (over water) by her friend and ended up seriously injured (and paralyzed? can't 100% remeber). Its crazy to me how some people treat those close to them.
Except in that story it's more understandable because they were teens all of them being stupid all of them kind of hanging off the bridge on the wrong side of the rails and everything. Like I get.
After something like that when you're with the crowd and all of that the panic and beer response to run away. I get the shame that teenager must have gone through and I get the feeling of her friend not wanting to ever see her again.Because that's a lot of shit to go through in surgery and everything out.
These people seem to deliberately try to murder him. A whole f****** group.They all stood around for twenty minutes. In that teen group even the girl who ran away reacted instantly as soon as they realize the extent of the effect the nausea the sickness that guilt everything and she fled. Not these people stood there for twenty minutes before even calling someone. TWENTY MINUTES!!! and these are adults vs kids playing around in a dangerous manner
of course the stalker goes to PIERS MORGAN to share “her side,” he would be the only hack in the world to hear out a stalker
I do have huge respect for the way Kaechele handled the court situation. She stood her ground and complied with the court while still remaining true to her vision of the exhibition.
Honestly, I don't agree with the message of the women-only art exhibition. It feels like a jab to men who never had a say in the social dynamics back in 1960s Australia.
With all that said, I can't hate her since she seems honest and consistent in the presentation of her work.
That is so wonderful that Chris is alive after almost drowning. That is so many people to stand by and watch. Heartbreaking. And the fact that they're recovering like they are is even more amazing. I hope they continue to recover like they have. The "friends" should be absolutely ashamed.
The Baby Reindeer woman is in for a rough go in court if she actually pursues it. There’s a reason “a lawyer who represents themself has an idiot for a client” is one of the most common phrases surrounding that
Fr she's risking social suicide by outing herself for this possible payday. She's representing herself against Netflix's lawyer army. She had reasonable deniability before. The whole thing probably would have blown over in a month tops when the next big show comes out and we collectively delete this one from the public consciousness. If she can't prove he lied entirely she's basically admitting to stalking and harassment then bragging about not facing jail time for it. Not to mention how she's going to try to pull off the misrepresentation angle on a "based on a true story" presented show. Based on, does not mean factually accurate. She's doomed. Maybe that's karma.
Not only should Chris never talk to any of those people again but and every one of them that lied to the cops needs to be prosecuted.
Re Social Security: I hate that it is becoming clear that there will be little to no social security net for todays young people for when they retire
On the Chris story, why didn't any of his friends jump in and get him after about 1-2 minutes of him not resurfacing? Like I get that you think it's a prank at first, but after 2 minutes of him not coming back, you have a moral obligation to get in there and rescue him, NOT sit around for 15+ minutes just hoping he's okay.
Yeah, and even the it's not safe to try and save a drowning person with out training (they can grab and pull you under now making 2 victims) that doesn't excuse just hanging out doing nothing. You can go and run/call for help, or find something to tose to help. They guy wasn't even flailing around, it's truly f'd
Exactly!!
So because he lived, no one is going to be charged?
I'm sorry, but where I'm from, we have it essentially wired into us that if someone goes into the water who can't swim, you're jumping straight in. No effing way would I have been able to just stand there and watch.
I had to pause the video... When an apartment here burned, we who didn't know each other, all were ready to rush in and make sure everyone made it out safely. Hell we did. We banged on the doors, we shouted outside and everyone made it out without a problem. Because it was the right thing to do, but his *FRIENDS* couldn't be arsed to jump into the water to *SAVE THEIR FRIEND* ?!
WOW, just wow...
I’m aware it’s dangerous to jump in to save a drowning person. But the fact that they all stood and watched, no one made a move to get any type of help is beyond f’d up.
I can't imagine how he took that news after waking up in the hospital. Every single one of those people would be dead to me. Everyone blocked on every possible app. Press charges against the one who pushed him in. An accident of not knowing he couldn't swim is one thing. The absolute lack of effort to help him in any way was vile.
@@NikkiBudders Agreed 💯
Horrible. The kids are not alright
@@casc7937 It's not like he fell ten meters from a cliffside. These friends acted like they didn't want to get wet or that the water was too cold for them. Despicable.
I love how the stalker is the victim now suddenly. reverse the roles see how it plays out. Do women ever take accountability?☕☕☕
I don't personally care what the cause is, don't put fine art in a bathroom.
Thats where the water is.
As someone who has been pushed into a lake before, I can guarantee that it sucks. I could swim at the time, but when I got pushed in, my brain was too panicked to even remember how to swim. I was just flailing about, and was lucky someone fished me out quickly. To this day, almost ten years later, I still avoid water and the sounds it makes as best I can. There was even a span of time when the fear of water was so bad that even a shower could trigger a PTSD-like response. I can't imagine what it would be like for someone who can't swim to be pushed in if it was that bad for me. Absolutely that 'friend' deserves some kind of punishment; Chris deserves justice.
Martha: "I'm upset because I never did jail time" - it's a dramatized show, it's not a documentary.
That woman who pushed Chris in the lake 100% deserves to be charged. Anyone who disagrees should read up on the "eggshell rule". Her ignorance to his inability to swim is not a valid excuse. His inability to swim shouldn't even factor. If he could swim and then panicked we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Remove the Social Security tax cap completely! It’s a damn shame that a Billionaire pays as much into Social Security as someone making $250k a year.
i feel like a court ruling that discrimination is okay IF it’s for art would set a dangerous precedent.
YES!!!! And people taking it as a joke.... so disappointed
Very much, and yet they're going to keep trying every reason they can to do it anyway.
Maybe the aboriginal people can then choose to discriminate against the colonizers and force them back to Europe?
I agree. It is not too much of a dream to imagine this being a loophole for 1960s America, and Australia is still struggling with discrimination.
This!
It's messed up how many people seem to reject reality based on whether it aligns with their opinion
YES! Like "When I eat my boogers it is not Grose!"