The fuel gauge thing on the MT09, you need to go the settings and change that second line of Drive info. The previous riders must have changed the option.
Not exactly: you have two lines on the screen in which you can choose what to display (odo, temp, fuel etc) You just select it with the right hand selector wheel thing, no diving into settings
The (factory spec) pads on the MT-10 are really disappointing, but a quick swap to any sintered road/racing pads makes a *massive* difference in initial bite and feel and gives you way more confidence under braking 👌
It seems like most new bikes today suffer the same thing ...I understand it is mainly caused by overzealous ABS interference supposedly even on some high end track focused bikes with Brembo components that is what one prominent (and totally disgusted with issue tester) claims ....so then if it really is true it can be fixed by simply changing the pads? that will seriously be both surprising and will then conflict with these other experts that loudly and adamantly are claiming ABS is the cultrit ...And lets be real here it IS hard to believe manufacturers would not simply put better pads on if it that were REALLY the problem! If that would be dramatically better especially on a premium SP version where they already resorted to steel braided lines...ya know? I mean think about it... I remain skeptical pads alone will transorm the brakes on very many bikes. Makes me also remember how people claim all sorts of things supposedly "trasformed" their bike things like an air filter or even a differnt oil! Or an exhaust for example that later a dyno proves hardly made a difference maybe even less hp some times...all I am saying is maybe there is a bit of hallucination involved wanting it so badly to be so?
@@dougiequick10 nah I have the first gen fz1 and it has the same problem. Along with Spintered brakes like the mt-10 it fixes the weird brake feeling instantly.
Getting back for the MT10 CP4 after my last in 2018. Best motor in the industry. Collecting my MT10 SP tomorrow after one ducati diavel, 3 aprilias Tuonos v4s and one ZH2. Its fun, its competent, awsome motor and stellar quality and garanties (5 years in Sweden), perfekt riding position, both comfort and still sporty enough when the speeds are high.
Fully agree with your points! Also, a vast (Yamaha) dealer network as well as the bike's reliability are some key points when it comes to select a new bike.
Fuel gauge is on the MT-09(SP and Regular). It's just that you need to change what displays for one of the two(either one) items that is shows on the bottom right. On the topic of the Yamaha brakes... yeah I know what you mean. This holds true for cars too. My BRZ had pretty meh brakes. Master cylinder would move during braking, causing a not so great brake feel. An aftermarket bracket resolved it, somewhat. But then driving a newer 6 series BMW the brake feel is AMAZING and it really makes a difference.
Brakes…I changed out the pads, as per a uk review, a few years back. That made a huge difference. Hopefully it’s the same for the new generation. Nice review 👍🤪🇨🇦
With the last MT-10 video you did, comments were made about brakes. I agree that the stock brakes aren't great for the class. The 10 was compared to the likes of other, significantly more expensive, motorcycles such as the Tuono and Superduke. I could spend 20k on a SD and still not have the reliability or service costs of a Yamaha. Price is a major factor for most people, thanks for this video man.
The MT 09sp does have a fuel gage as I own one and very good it is too. That's the only problem with just test riding a bike for half hour then doing a reveiw you don't see all the qualities of the bike. On the settings you can decide what to show on the screen so whoever test rode it before you obviously decided to display the trip or odo reading instead of the fuel gauge.
You constantly mentioned brakes but rhe brakes are not broken in on a new motorcycle. Brake feel will improve dramatically when the brakes are broken in.
I wondered if you had thought about road testing the new 2024 Yamaha MT-10 SP. I was very fortunate in having last years model on loan for three weeks back in August, I'm now in a position to go buy the 2024 model. There's been a number of refinements made. Your opinion is highly valued and appreciated.
In my mind the best thing about this SP is the electronic semi active suspension! ALL you have to do is set the preload front and rear and if you want it in sport mode A1 or touring mode A2 (on the tracer 9 anyway) and then the BIKE handles ALL the adujstments actively as you ride totally automatic! Which if you know zilch about setting up suspension and have no desie to learn? THAT is just ideal! If it is even as good as the tracer9 semi active suspension I would love it! But my guess is it is ripped right off the R!~
Maybe the master cylinder on the brakes has adjustable ratio to do less travel. I know good brembo brake levers has this option. Thanks for the review. Great as always.
somehow it does not feel like a 1:1 comparison (m1000r and the mt10sp) but i do see your point when it comes to to the brakes and agree they should be better off the dealers floor. Would be nice to get an M version of the MT10 SP (maybe an MT10 M - SP) titanium rods, lighter wheels :) a bigger screen would also add nicely to the look
Excuse me latest gen MT90 DOES have a fuel guage! Possibly it was not selected as a viewed item I know on the tracer you can select something else instead I imagine it also can track fuel consumed since reset/fill up but I;m also sure when the fuel light finally comes on it will count down how many miles it might go on whats left ....but it certaintly DOES have a friggen fuel guage no matter how bad it is there is one lol
Anyone own a MT10 2023? Wondering if the bike emits alot of heat during riding? As I was told 2018 and below versions tends to get super hot quickly which is kinda unbearable in tropic countries?
Hi moto jitsu, I have an mt10sp, all you need to do is service the brakes at 600 miles and grease the sliding pins and apply grease to back of pads, the factory do not apply grease! Then there are fine one finger, they need to bed in as well.
Is the intent of the slower brakes to benefit potential newer riders who are more prone to panic brake? Maybe just a bit of a forgiveness buffer incase Timmy decides to pick up an MT. Hope it’s mostly just stock pad compound to blame.
What's the more comfortable bike between the Triumph 1200 speed triple RS and this bike and which one do you prefer. My wrists are messed up so I need to be as upright as possible.
I have to try the BMW M1KR vs MT-10 SP, but I doubt the Beemer will be enough better to merit the extra $5K. I could be wrong, but you could upgrade the brakes AND tires for $5k with a little work... And that's only IF you can really walk out the door with the Beemer for only 20k.
@@MrDeepseadweller There are now 2 versions: 1 with 165 hp (comparable to the MT10) and 2 the new version with 210 hp which sports the superbike RR's engine.
@@SirMountainpass The one with 165 hp is called S1000R. The one with 210 hp is called M1000R. Not the same model from a marketing point of view even if they are very close in many ways. But the OP wrote MKR.
@@MrDeepseadweller Ok. you got the finer details right, then. In my opinion, the 165 hp version is already more that adequate for the twisties and mountain passes 😅🏁
Okay ima be honest i saw thumbnail and was like...didn't i watch this yesterday when it just dropped. De he accidentally double uploaded then realised it was mt10sp not mt09sp
Everything about this bike is perfect, except for the power. It’s simply too much and unusable. Is there a way (apart from rain mode) to detune it to produce less power?
Talk about the ergonomics why don`t you? The BMW`s riding position is 9/10th superbike, it will F**K your wrists and neck, the MT-10 is a comfortable bike that bullies the tarmac. They are worlds apart in everything but category bike "supernaked"
Bmw has always had so so many electronics issues! Not really great they don’t have all their electronics under control really obviously. And it’s quite annoying if you bought a brand new bike and it stands at the repair station most of the time. And all the time something new. On top the engine of the RR or in this case the M1000R has the shift cam engine! And this engine might sound great on paper but its everything but not reliable! If you ask people going on the racetrack from time to time you will see how many times they have issues! Or just check the statistics of which bike has the most issues and had to be repaired unexpectedly BMW is on place 2 or 3! No1 I think was even triumph if I am not mistaken ! Don’t take my word for that but bmw definitely was on the top 3 of the worst bikes reliability wise!!! And that’s really BAD!!
The MT-09 - ALL of them - has a fuel gauge. Do your homework before posting these so-called "reviews" with lots of BAD info based on quick assumptions.
You need to remember what you're doing and stay on task. Or...edit stuff out that's totally unrelated to the review. Nobody cares if Hummer's are doing an off-road course. You're channel would be way better if you stayed on task. Good luck my man.
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What kind of gloves are you wearing in this video ? They look super nice
Could be the brake pads. Either they are cheap pads or maybe they are race pads that have to be hot to work properly.
The fuel gauge thing on the MT09, you need to go the settings and change that second line of Drive info. The previous riders must have changed the option.
What he said…👍
Aaaaaah ok I was shocked!! Sounded too insane to be true actually. As even my previous model mt09 Sp has it.
Not exactly: you have two lines on the screen in which you can choose what to display (odo, temp, fuel etc)
You just select it with the right hand selector wheel thing, no diving into settings
Exactly
Just wantet to write it, thats it🙌🏻
The (factory spec) pads on the MT-10 are really disappointing, but a quick swap to any sintered road/racing pads makes a *massive* difference in initial bite and feel and gives you way more confidence under braking 👌
That is what I had done for my 2020 MT09 SP - swap for steel-braided brake lines and SBS track / road brake pads - works like a treat!
I bet
It seems like most new bikes today suffer the same thing ...I understand it is mainly caused by overzealous ABS interference supposedly even on some high end track focused bikes with Brembo components that is what one prominent (and totally disgusted with issue tester) claims ....so then if it really is true it can be fixed by simply changing the pads? that will seriously be both surprising and will then conflict with these other experts that loudly and adamantly are claiming ABS is the cultrit ...And lets be real here it IS hard to believe manufacturers would not simply put better pads on if it that were REALLY the problem! If that would be dramatically better especially on a premium SP version where they already resorted to steel braided lines...ya know? I mean think about it... I remain skeptical pads alone will transorm the brakes on very many bikes. Makes me also remember how people claim all sorts of things supposedly "trasformed" their bike things like an air filter or even a differnt oil! Or an exhaust for example that later a dyno proves hardly made a difference maybe even less hp some times...all I am saying is maybe there is a bit of hallucination involved wanting it so badly to be so?
@@dougiequick10 nah I have the first gen fz1 and it has the same problem. Along with Spintered brakes like the mt-10 it fixes the weird brake feeling instantly.
Getting back for the MT10 CP4 after my last in 2018. Best motor in the industry. Collecting my MT10 SP tomorrow after one ducati diavel, 3 aprilias Tuonos v4s and one ZH2. Its fun, its competent, awsome motor and stellar quality and garanties (5 years in Sweden), perfekt riding position, both comfort and still sporty enough when the speeds are high.
High speeds in Sweden, or Germany😂?
@@standoutpunching2936 never been to Germany on a bike. Would like to drive the hell off the green hell though.
@@srtspeedy4983 Green Hell, as well as the unlimited strip of tarmac 👌
@@standoutpunching2936 From Sweden it does not take too long to get to Germany's Autobahn's (weekend trip)...
Fully agree with your points! Also, a vast (Yamaha) dealer network as well as the bike's reliability are some key points when it comes to select a new bike.
Fuel gauge is on the MT-09(SP and Regular). It's just that you need to change what displays for one of the two(either one) items that is shows on the bottom right.
On the topic of the Yamaha brakes... yeah I know what you mean. This holds true for cars too. My BRZ had pretty meh brakes. Master cylinder would move during braking, causing a not so great brake feel. An aftermarket bracket resolved it, somewhat. But then driving a newer 6 series BMW the brake feel is AMAZING and it really makes a difference.
Brakes…I changed out the pads, as per a uk review, a few years back. That made a huge difference. Hopefully it’s the same for the new generation. Nice review 👍🤪🇨🇦
With the last MT-10 video you did, comments were made about brakes. I agree that the stock brakes aren't great for the class. The 10 was compared to the likes of other, significantly more expensive, motorcycles such as the Tuono and Superduke. I could spend 20k on a SD and still not have the reliability or service costs of a Yamaha. Price is a major factor for most people, thanks for this video man.
Thanks for all the reviews!
The MT09 does have a fuel gauge. Because mine runs out very quickly!😂
The MT 09sp does have a fuel gage as I own one and very good it is too. That's the only problem with just test riding a bike for half hour then doing a reveiw you don't see all the qualities of the bike. On the settings you can decide what to show on the screen so whoever test rode it before you obviously decided to display the trip or odo reading instead of the fuel gauge.
It's the crappy Yamaha pads. Changed to ebc on my 09sp. Made a big difference. Will be doing the same on my mt10.
talking about the exhaust....it looks smaller than the one on Burgman 200 lol so yea, I see your point
that 4cyl sounds absolutely brutal down low at parking lot speeds. unreal! of course great when you get up high in the tach... but down low wow!!
You constantly mentioned brakes but rhe brakes are not broken in on a new motorcycle. Brake feel will improve dramatically when the brakes are broken in.
I wondered if you had thought about road testing the new 2024 Yamaha MT-10 SP. I was very fortunate in having last years model on loan for three weeks back in August, I'm now in a position to go buy the 2024 model. There's been a number of refinements made. Your opinion is highly valued and appreciated.
In my mind the best thing about this SP is the electronic semi active suspension! ALL you have to do is set the preload front and rear and if you want it in sport mode A1 or touring mode A2 (on the tracer 9 anyway) and then the BIKE handles ALL the adujstments actively as you ride totally automatic! Which if you know zilch about setting up suspension and have no desie to learn? THAT is just ideal! If it is even as good as the tracer9 semi active suspension I would love it! But my guess is it is ripped right off the R!~
Great review. This bike may be in my future.
Maybe the master cylinder on the brakes has adjustable ratio to do less travel. I know good brembo brake levers has this option. Thanks for the review. Great as always.
Spot on, older rider that loves the power. Second bike is an Indian Roadmaster.
somehow it does not feel like a 1:1 comparison (m1000r and the mt10sp) but i do see your point when it comes to to the brakes and agree they should be better off the dealers floor. Would be nice to get an M version of the MT10 SP (maybe an MT10 M - SP) titanium rods, lighter wheels :) a bigger screen would also add nicely to the look
Excuse me latest gen MT90 DOES have a fuel guage! Possibly it was not selected as a viewed item I know on the tracer you can select something else instead I imagine it also can track fuel consumed since reset/fill up but I;m also sure when the fuel light finally comes on it will count down how many miles it might go on whats left ....but it certaintly DOES have a friggen fuel guage no matter how bad it is there is one lol
They seem like really good bikes. However, I think they could do more on the front end to make them look better.
There are some decent aftermarket options
Which do you pick over all w this vs the zx14 ??
Anyone own a MT10 2023? Wondering if the bike emits alot of heat during riding? As I was told 2018 and below versions tends to get super hot quickly which is kinda unbearable in tropic countries?
Hi moto jitsu, I have an mt10sp, all you need to do is service the brakes at 600 miles and grease the sliding pins and apply grease to back of pads, the factory do not apply grease! Then there are fine one finger, they need to bed in as well.
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Is the intent of the slower brakes to benefit potential newer riders who are more prone to panic brake? Maybe just a bit of a forgiveness buffer incase Timmy decides to pick up an MT. Hope it’s mostly just stock pad compound to blame.
where did you buy your gloves?
I couldn't keep my eye off that Ducati Monster 1100 Evo in the background at the start. Nothing looks as good as an Italian bike IMO.
Love from thr phlippines dude
What's the more comfortable bike between the Triumph 1200 speed triple RS and this bike and which one do you prefer. My wrists are messed up so I need to be as upright as possible.
Clearly mt10 has a better riding position. On 1200 you are leaning forward like on superbike.
Also I will change pads to ebc hh that's what I did on my mt09sp, made a big difference
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Good exhaust
Does it feel faster then the zh2?
I have to try the BMW M1KR vs MT-10 SP, but I doubt the Beemer will be enough better to merit the extra $5K. I could be wrong, but you could upgrade the brakes AND tires for $5k with a little work...
And that's only IF you can really walk out the door with the Beemer for only 20k.
funny thing about those bikes is you can't really find a comparison vid on youtube. Only ones I find are like 6 yrs old.
@@MrDeepseadweller There are now 2 versions: 1 with 165 hp (comparable to the MT10) and 2 the new version with 210 hp which sports the superbike RR's engine.
@@SirMountainpass The one with 165 hp is called S1000R. The one with 210 hp is called M1000R. Not the same model from a marketing point of view even if they are very close in many ways. But the OP wrote MKR.
@@MrDeepseadweller
Ok. you got the finer details right, then.
In my opinion, the 165 hp version is already more that adequate for the twisties and mountain passes 😅🏁
Crazy my r6 2019 only needs 1 finger to brake lol.
There's not even one available for test drive near me.. really annoying cause I never buy a bike until I test ride.
MT09 does have a fuel gauge😊
Just put Brembo pads on the front, instant change and one finger pull.
Okay ima be honest i saw thumbnail and was like...didn't i watch this yesterday when it just dropped. De he accidentally double uploaded then realised it was mt10sp not mt09sp
why do i think mt09 is more fun ??
i really fell in love with mt09 ! im saving money for it
MT09 has the fuel gauge, you need to choose it on display
Have you seen a price of bmw m? That is why! And service and parts prices is twice cheaper for Yamaha
Waiting on the XSR 900 review.
Is it possible to know what gloves do you wear?? They look great.
Thank you
MotoJitsu.com/gear is what I have now and just look in the description
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Wow, your standing by 2 bikes at the same time that basically don't exist. Cool bikes.
2023 MT10 SP or 2023 Street Triple 1200?
You should try the s1000rr next!
Yeah i hope he does
It is a most squared-away show on a motorcycle, period! Semper-errrr
Everything about this bike is perfect, except for the power. It’s simply too much and unusable. Is there a way (apart from rain mode) to detune it to produce less power?
Yamaha Mt10 or kawasaki Zh2??
Mt09sp has a fuel gauge
If MT stands for master of torque, what does that say for my MT125
"Many Torques" for a shot glass bike 😁
Master of turning 😁
The mt125 is one if the fastest 125's excluding 2 stokes
Minimal torque..
@Alexandre Djalo i dont think that takes much, 40mph where my bike is happiest at any faster and it starts screaming
This is a new bike from the factory , MAYBE the brakes just need bleeding ?
I would think that YAMAHA has tested these bikes ... If it has brakes from a quality mfg. I am sure they were assembled but not blead.
Change the brake fluid with ATE DOT4. Brake bleeding is a bit of an art.
brakes sound defective. I would've turned right around
You have to try this thing with the electronics and wheelie control turned OFF!
And I thought you can't make a 09 uglier :) but sure Yamaha can .. sadly the 09 is soo nice to ride
Tbh old mt 10 headlights were much better
My 22 MT10 has been a reliable bike but the brakes are just garbage. Aftermarket soft pads are just a band aid
I remember when you said the bmw would destroy it do you still think that good content
Why would any road bike not come with a damn fuel gauge it makes zero sense !!!!!!!
Talk about the ergonomics why don`t you? The BMW`s riding position is 9/10th superbike, it will F**K your wrists and neck, the MT-10 is a comfortable bike that bullies the tarmac. They are worlds apart in everything but category bike "supernaked"
Bmw has always had so so many electronics issues! Not really great they don’t have all their electronics under control really obviously. And it’s quite annoying if you bought a brand new bike and it stands at the repair station most of the time. And all the time something new. On top the engine of the RR or in this case the M1000R has the shift cam engine! And this engine might sound great on paper but its everything but not reliable!
If you ask people going on the racetrack from time to time you will see how many times they have issues!
Or just check the statistics of which bike has the most issues and had to be repaired unexpectedly BMW is on place 2 or 3! No1 I think was even triumph if I am not mistaken ! Don’t take my word for that but bmw definitely was on the top 3 of the worst bikes reliability wise!!! And that’s really BAD!!
28,000 miles on my BMW no issues
@@goldie6579 Congrats! Just because you don't have problems, others do
First
I just cant believe why they made the MT series so ugly.. their previous heads where mean and powerful, now they all look like a supernerd.
These are without a doubt, some of the ugliest bikes on the road.
Ha ha I ride the bike I don't even look at the front of the bike I'm to busy having fun
The MT-09 - ALL of them - has a fuel gauge. Do your homework before posting these so-called "reviews" with lots of BAD info based on quick assumptions.
Calm down Doris.
Ugly and noo brakes😜noo thank YOU 😎
I do not like the sound of this bike. The MT-09 SP you just got off of sounds deeper, soother, and generally, much more pleasing to a fastidious ear.
You need to remember what you're doing and stay on task. Or...edit stuff out that's totally unrelated to the review. Nobody cares if Hummer's are doing an off-road course. You're channel would be way better if you stayed on task. Good luck my man.
I remember when you said the bmw would destroy it do you still think that good content