What Sidious Thought Would Happen If the Galaxy Found Out He Was a Sith - Star Wars Explained
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I remember reading one of the Legacy of the Force books a few years ago and remember something very telling. When Luke confronted the Mon Cal admiral who had put his nephew, and new Sith Lord, Darth Caedus into the role of head of state. She said something about not understanding how a Jedi could do the things that Caedus had done, and Luke informed her that his nephew was a Sith and not a Jedi. The admiral responded with: What is a Sith? It had only been thirty-five to forty years since the fall of Vader at that point, and it was shocking that people could even forget the Sith, but then again, the Sith had been gone for a thousand years before that, and any dark side wielder would normally just be called a Dark Jedi, so it is probably not surprising that people might not know the difference between the two orders.
Fear is what the Sith Live by. Darth Sidious used this as a way of asserting his Rule over the Galaxy during the age of the Empire which is why No one suspected that Palpatine is a Sith Lord. In other words, He was Untouchable.
Thanks I thought I was the only one who understood that Sidious tapped into fear to become so powerful while Vader tapped into anger and fear is more powerful than anger.
While fear is a powerful tool, so is manipulation. The greatest irony of all? Was that Sidious used the biggest Mind Trick on the Order by putting a veil of deception over the Jedi. Thus in turn the Jedi could not detect he was a Sith Lord until the end.
Again fear could be a tool but so is the shadows as well. Mind, Matter, Manipulation.
@@coolest1seven814 Can you or someone else please explain how fear is more powerful than anger? What about the other feelings/emotions like joy or depression?
@@coolest1seven814 no fear always leads to anger and unrest if you can truly control it your happiness can your anger because you are in a perpetual and controlled state of rage
@@joshuat770 Because the desperateness of fear will cause a person to do anything to elevate their fears. There is no mercy for an enemy that you fear and have the power to destroy while an angry person can show mercy to an enemy even if they hate them. Fear in the real world is usually the hurdle you have to overcome to become happy so there's that
A Wiseman once said:
“You must break through the fog of lies the Jedi have created around you. If one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow view of the Jedi. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the Force”
And truthfully he was right, not his view of the force but his view of the Jedi
Who is this wiseman and what made him wise?
@@dineez627 Darth Plageus, & he was considered wise because he made the force a pathway to many abilities some consider to be....unnatural, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep
I think Sidious value more his intelligence than his power, thus has the wisdom to delight in destruction only when it's advantageous.
I think so also that’s why he liked Thrawn
@@kittycat0876 As close as he can come to liking anyone, that is. I would imagine Thrawn would qualify for it even more than Vader.
Palpatine with just the Sith eyes is even creepier looking than post-scarring Palpatine
How could the citizens of the Empire not figure it out? A lot of people knew who Darth Vader was and had some idea of his Force abilities. If Palpatine wasn't a Sith, shouldn't Vader have easily overthrown him? A frail old man would be no match for Vader...unless he possessed greater Force powers.
The average citizen simply didn't know what a Sith was.
The Senators, military commanders and system governments who had supported him before, during and after the Clone Wars would have been *horrified* to learn that he might have been using the Force to read, and perhaps influence, their minds all those years. In retrospect, if his great popularity could be reattributed to Force-based mental powers rather than simple political acumen then there would have been a sense that Palpatine had tricked them into removing the Jedi so that he could use his own Force powers more freely. In short, he would be seen as a "witch" who started a witch hunt just to eliminate his own rivals, *not* to protect the galaxy.
One thing that I've always seen fairly odd is how Sidious didn't embrace himself being Sith when he told Anakin about it.
I mean you can't by republic law attack someone for their beliefs, especially the supreme chancellor and he could have played the same end goal with that strategy since no one outside the Jedi knew what Sith is. Jedi were seen as a religious group, so my assumption is that same applies to Sith as well, so the self-defence against the Jedi consulate and Order 66 were 100% justified without hiding his identity.
Yes, but how would the Senators and military commanders react to the possibility that he had been reading and manipulating their minds using the Force all the years he was in politics? This was not a question of "religious liberty" (which ought to have made Order 66 illegal), it was about what *powers* he might have been using on those around him.
@@daniels7907 For that he could held up in a trial, but I doubt there would be anything tangable as such things are quite impossible to detect.
For sure there would be questions, but how much of the ways of the Sith populous would know? I’d dare to say that Sidious could play it as a obsessive faschination towards the philosophers of old 🤔
These are fun to imagine 😅
Yes, but we also have freedom of religion in many countries nowadays. However, if a politician revealed that they were literally a demon from hell, they would probably have short career.
The sith have been portrayed as servants of evil for centuries in the republic.
but it could’ve led to more investigation into palpatine and then it would’ve been discovered what he was really up to
@@Joni_Tarvainen - Again, we're not talking about religious freedom or even quantifiable crimes. Just the *suspicion* that Palpatine was a secret Force-user who had been using his powers on members of the government and the military would have inflicted *devastating* damage to his credibility and reputation!
With Vader and the Inquisitors, there would have been the sense that they were attack dogs for the Empire, but that (supposedly muggle) Palpatine could always Order 66 them like he did the Jedi if they seemed to pose a threat to the non-Force-using majority.
But if Palpatine himself were also a Force-user, then the whole situation would look a *lot* more sinister to most people. Especially if anybody made the right connections and realized that some of Palpatine's Force-using henchmen were ex-Jedi. After building up so much negative press around the Jedi, the implication that Palpatine himself was a Force-user merely leading a rogue Jedi faction would make him look like he was just another hidden traitor using the Force to dominate normal society. At which point the nascent Rebellion would have gained a *lot* of supporters, including within the Senate, the bureaucracies, and the Imperial military.
I agree with your assertion and the irony of it is not lost on me.
I doubt the entire galaxy would have turned on the emperor even if it was revealed that he was a Sith Lord. Even if they were angered by it, they themselves turned against the Jedi. In most cases you need a Jedi in order to combat a Sith Lord. Darth Sidious could have easily decimated Legions of Ordinary People. The only way he would have been overthrown is if his own military turned against him.
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This is extremely smart of Sidoous. I understand his fear. He used that fear naturally,to bulid his Empire,to lead it,his armies. People feared Force sensitives. May the Force be with you too :)
The galaxy wouldn’t really care even people high in the senate didn’t know what a sith was I doubt the average citizen would know anything about it
Good point. The only people in the Star Wars galaxy that really had knowledge about the Stith were usually Historians or Academics. Or people who qualified for some type of advanced learning. By the time of phantom menace most people were totally ignorant of the Sith or regarded them as a Arcane Cult or force sect.
I get that people in the verse didn't necessarily get the distinction between Jedi and Sith; tithe common soul, especially humans who lacked other racial Force traditions, they were all "Jedi", and equally dangerous. It's sort of like in Warhammer 40k, where humans don't know the difference between Craftworld, Exodite, Harlequin and Dark Eldar; they are all "Eldar", and equally dangerous. People in the X-Men region of Marvel didn't care what your "mutant power" was; how great or useless it was. If you had one, you were a mutant (read: "bad"). I do sometimes wonder though, then, why it was okay for Vader to be so open, but then he wanted people to be scared of Vader.
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One shows a mace or a sword when engaged in combat as they are an obvious sign of intent, yet never to reveal the dagger concealed within the belt. Sidious was a dagger of poison, while he wielded the most menacing of blades in the end.
I believe it would have started yet another war based on some of his lines after Mace Windu got thrown out the window.
There's always a thing of a plan working too well
The galaxy at large would likely not know of the sith but it was still extremely foolish and the sith would be found out if just one archaeologist who knew of sith artifacts and the history of the sith told the jedi order particularly before episode 1 time period . The jedi would have time to prepare and initiate the Knightfall protocol, for anyone who doesn't know what this protocol is , I will explain it is the council's emergency initiation for ensuring the jedi order lives on for generations to come, mace and the other council members would initiate this on learning of the sith's return . The jedi would scatter relocating to the unknown regions to world's like ossus and Acht To , ensuring if the jedi was hunted they could return to battle the sith .
Why the jedi didn't initiate this protocol after discovering the sith returned after episode 1 , I will never know .
this is a good video concept
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I don’t know if I missed a video about it or not, but I’ve always wondered why Sidious kept the Senate in existence , even after creating the empire , for like 10-15 years ?
Palpatine did want to disband the Senate sooner than later, but there are two basic reasons why he kept the body:
A) To maintain pretense that the member systems of the Empire still had a voice on the central government; and
B) Palpatine needed the Senate as a face to "maintain law and order" until the completion of his Ultimate Weapon; once the Death Star's ready for action, he surmised that "fear [of the Death Star] would keep the systems in line," to quote Tarkin, so the Senate is no longer of use to him.
Up until the Death Star was completed & Luke was I think 17 in a "New Hope" so about 18 years. The Death Star would keep planets in line instead of their Senate. You vote no, you die with the push of a button. Tho the Empire did clean up much of the galaxy from underground gangsters, brought law & order to planets who had none, gave jobs to trillions of citizens n so on. Many truly preferred the Empire, tho mainly middleclass & up.
The same reason that Octavian kept the senate around after becoming the Emperor of Rome.....PR
Honestly, how many in the galaxy even remember the Sith? The Jedi tried very hard to make everyone forget them and erase them from history. I can certainly see that the galaxy would fear force wielders in general especially given all the horrid actions caused by them that no normal individual can do. So, yeah, Palpatine would keep the fact that he’s a force wielder hidden.
I love the idea that Sideous was afraid of being known as a force user instead of a sith. As those who played Kotor2 will know, many normal folk of the galaxy didn’t/couldn’t see a difference between sith and Jedi, hence the name of the Jedi Civil War, even though as the player we could very clearly see the difference between the 2, most people just saw wizards with laser swords fighting over something that didn’t make sense.
Personally fear was only a tool, very much like intimidation. Manipulation is the greater key. Including the mind.
How many times did the Jedi try to manipulate the mind to sway to their cause, or get out of a situation?
Plenty! Which is why Bastila stated in KotOR...
"Jedi do not kill their enemies, what greater ability is there than to sway your enemy to your cause."
In many ways Palpatine did this to a grand scale. Incite fear and dread, only to convince them to his cause.
With Padme in Episode I, he showed her the flaw of the Republic and the time consuming process of bureaucracy, which by the Motion of No Confidence made him Chancellor.
In Episode II while Padme and Anakin were investigating Anakin's mother, and Obi Wan. The revelation of the Clone Army any the Separatist Movement caused Jar Jar to make motion to grant Palpatine emergency powers to command the Grand Army of the Republic.
Finally it was putting the premonition of Padme's death in childbirth in Episode III in Anakin. That sealed his fate to the dark side, and make him Sidious's Apprentice as Darth Vader.
So from this fear yes was a factor, but only a tool in the end. Manipulating people, and Events was his true power. All while blinding the Jedi Order to it.
did most people in the galaxy remember the sith at all since they were so long ago? or if they knew the word, did they think of it as just synonymous with "bogeyman"?
if there are sith lords are there also sith peasants? that doesn't seem as big a reveal for someone to make to their friends..."i am a low ranking sith!"
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All villains (well, the intelligent ones) know the machinations they set into motion can rebound to affect them. Discretion is the wiser path, to keep in play all one's options.
Some are narcissists or megaloma- niacs (or simply, self-centred fools), seeking to satisfy whatever perversity (for the lack of a better word) distract them from their objective. Tom Riddle (Ralph Fiennes, et al) is an example of this latter.
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Not to mention that practicing Sith Doctrine was Literally illegal in the Republic. It was outlawed even in Bane's time. Sith Relics were not permitted to be collected or preserved in private collections, but we all know that some did so anyways.
I have to agree that Sidious portrayed himself as a non-force sensitive as part of the grand plan for the Sith but because he is an expert politician plus everything else he had going for him that once he got chancellor during episode 1 it would only be a matter of time that the Sith would take over the galaxy but again he wanted it to look like a non force senstitive was the one who showed that the Jedi were just power hungry and corrupt. In retrospect, the Jedi were lackadaisacal and arrogant most of them sadly deserved their fate as none of them saw what was coming.
At 1:31 Grievous wields what appears to be Luke´s Lightsaber!
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3:41 nice brain aneurysm
Someone should send this to AFanWithTooMuchTime; might be interesting to add this to his Star Wars vs 40K story.
, that's why
Ol palps told the senet that the Jedi attacked a defenceless old man. If he came out as sith Lord that tiny rebellion would overthrow... As for Vader, eh....
My Thoughts: Darth Sidious is One Sick Puppy! 🐶🙌⚡
Sidious was a smooth criminal. No pun intended. He shrouded himself in mystery. Even though he was a public figure
It would have most certainly hindered his chances at becoming chancellor but after becoming emperor, that secret became mute.
He just figured it would be more trouble than it's worth if everybody found out he's a Force user.
Did the royal guards know palpertine was a sith
Obviously!
What was Leia’s public persona as a force wielder and the general public perception following the overthrow of the emperor after the battle of Endor?
Disney, the twins never came out as Vader's children and Leia took a public political backlash ending her government job . And people were still willing to gamble cards with her.
Legends they came out within a year and told that Vader was their father, with a cover story that he was a control cyborg.
Long story short, former imperials and hard aliens refer to Leia as Vader's Daughter out of respect and not as an insult.
Palpatine aka sixth Lord Darth Sidious had consider to anakin Skywalker had similar trades with him not with jedi, only thing on this topic, which he knew more letting on about anakin Skywalker. Did he knew of his father or kept aneye where he lived is still unknown !
These Sidious clips are a little too fast. It’s hard for me to focus on the video.
So Sidious could have been best buddies with... Magneto?
what if Sidious abolished the rule of 2 and made his entire empire a leigon of sith? Hence starting the Rule of 1.
Well i feel he'd still be alive and not at the bottom of the the reactor of the destroyed deathstar had he not tried to kill Luke in front of his father Darth....i'm like how did he not FORSEE that moment in time? lol
Ironic….
Good info, wish the video wasn’t so long and repetitive.
I know he’s evil. But I feel like if he was nice to his subjects they wouldn’t wanna rebel. And he can have all the power still.
The Dark Side is fueled by conflict (i.e. anger, fear, hatred), not by peace. Whatever Palpatine might have preferred, the Dark Side itself cannot abide peace and contentment in the galaxy. This is why Dark Side regimes are always driven to create conflict. They cannot do otherwise without attacking the source of their own power.
No ruler can be nice to everyone
@@MrMonkey2150 yeah true. But he’s like a dick about it. I guess he is just too evil
@@MrMonkey2150 that's actually highly incorrect incorrect at the same time I believe what he could have done was allow alien to stay in the military and treat aliens as equals as well as use the Empire's money to help will and out of room we build and we cover and use the Empire to destroy the Hut Clan and every crime organization in the outer rim after that people would have loved him live in many politicians who have evil schemes but use Good Deeds to please the people if you have the people on your side willingly then you can do whatever you want dictatorships can benefit the people if used correctly
It would make him more popular among right wingers :)
Well that's ironic.... Ha
Today should have always been Leary that the sith could rise again where there is good there is also evil and there are force sensetives everywhere
Wrong! He was afraid of Dark users because of the rule of 2. Vader with a second could overthrow him.
Based on Real Life...his supporters would call it fake news, then embrace the Sith lifestyle.
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Everyone fears what they don't understand.
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A Lot of Errors in your thinking . The Jedi only had any Political Sway during the Clone Wars . Prior to that time they stayed OUT of Politics .
Certainly , the " Average Man " would have seen them as Mystics and Magicians , but it was Palpatine that " Manufactured " the transgressions you spoke of .
The sith remind me of modern day politicians constantly lying and trying to aquire power.
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See everyone goes on about how palpatine was the greatest sith lord ever i gotta disagree sorry.. Darth Nihilus anyone?
Guy LITERALLY swallowed planets and still would have went through the entire galaxy THUS ending time itself, sidious wasnt the greatest not by a long shot he WAS however one of the smartest, not totally blowing him off, he went about things differently using politics to take over the galaxy over fear of the sith..
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Darth Sidious was as cunning as a fox
Sidious as Emperor did sometimes exert his raw power around people but those same people would then be killed to keep that secret around that bit more longer.
Especially in an alternative ending if Vader had failed to kill him both he and Luke in turn would be dead and Sidious would then leave the the death star to exert that power out on all the rebels on the moon base everyone. Any witnesses to his power there would have also been silenced. That was a what if scenario. But nonetheless secrecy was his primary focus hence why the public so rarely saw him so he could focus on learning more he could from the dark side of the force.
Had he succeeded in killing Rey (wish he had) and destroying the entirety of the resistance he would have made the full extent of his sith identity completely out in the open and the New Empire would have been more than three times stronger and 100% unopposed.
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