Its pretty impressive that those victorian old wooden boxes managed to survive long enough to serve 80s kids especially with the shinkansen already in service for a few decade I love the early 1900s look of these taits
I lived in Sandringham and was a paper boy on the station for awhile-I was awfully young. Each and every noise is ingrained in my head-the gates bell clanging, the noise of the rails-everything. Damn it was cold there.
I was lucky enough to be in Australia back in the year 198081. I remember taking these beauties from Flinders Street to St Kilda. They were great in the summer months, the only aircon you had was the doors which were often left open, they could be a trifle chilly in the winter months as I remember, they were pretty draighty. Some of us rail enthusiasts used to call them 'Tait Freezers' 🤣🤣
Born on April 10, 1970, I grew up with both the 1910 - 18 built Tait "red" and 1956 - 71 built Harris "blue" trains on my own line in Melbourne's east. The one thing I remember is that whilst the General Electric traction motors on the Tait's were the loudest, the English Electric traction motors on the Harris a very close second, the horns on the Harris were slightly louder than those on the Tait, making the Harris trains' horns the loudest. Great video and good sound too👍👍👍👍👍✔️
I was born in 68 and grew up around trains in Burnley. Quite often I rode trains in the east with my Mum when young. Glen Waverley, Box Hill, Camberwell or Ringwood shopping centres. I miss the Harris trains the most. And the old Box Hill station with 2 platforms.
Now from memory Sandringham trains used to become St Kilda trains once arriving at Flinders Street? I believe Port Melbourne trains always shuttled between Flinders St and Port Melb without running through to another destination? God I miss these two lines.
I was a guard on these trains. Started in 1980 . We used to run 6 car sets in the peak but I remember splitting them into two sets for the off peak service down at Sandringham. It was a dirty job. You had to get down on the ballast between the old buffers and unscrew and lift off the old coupling and take out the nine core electric cable and put it the holder. By the time you got back on the platform your nice blue uniform was covered in brown grime. I loved the Taits but they were freezing in winter.
Years ago there were such gates all over Melbourne They were operated with big wheels from nearby signal boxes by hand. Starting them swinging was the hard part but once they were moving they were hard to stop until they hit some catches which locked them into the closed position for road traffic. The catches were even with the road surface when but were raised when the gates were being closed and they brought the gates to a sudden stop.
@@reidgck Yes, I heard from some engineering people that those two way gates may trap a car in the railroad and cause accidents. Thus, nowdays, most of the train gate in the world is one way design. About my side, in Hong Kong, those gate has been decommissioned since 1970s, because most train rails are operating under ground now.
The horns on the Taits on the video date from about 1957-56. About that time they were progressively installed replacing what were originally high pitched air operated whistles which were mounted in the middle of the front of the driving cars about the level of the driving window or perhaps a bit higher. They were mounted upright and should be able to be seen in early pictures of the driving or motor cars or driving trailer cars. That was just one of the many modifications done to the Tait cars over their operating life. The train configuration of MTM-MTM was the last of a variety of configurations used and was introduced as newer trains replaced Tait trains on other lines.Originally, the Taits ran as seven car trains which could be broken into two or four car sets. That is before the six car sets were introduced, partly from about the time when eight car sets with three motors and five trailers were run on the Frankston line which were underpowered and so were used on express runs. When six car sets started running on the shorter and flatter Sandringham line they too were underpowered because they were underpowered consisting two motors, two trailers and two driving trailers. I remember seeing a great shower of sparks coming from between the pantograph and the overhead at South Yarra one time when one driver exercised his impatience regarding the sluggish acceleration. Four motors on each six car train solved that problem. An interesting aspect of the Taits is that they original had cast iron brake shoes fitted. There was a unique smell of brake dust in the air after they stopped at stations. Over some years the brake dust built up on tracks at stations and covered the ballast and sleepers. When they changed the brake shoes to an asbestos composition in later years, there was concern about health problems with asbestos in the air although not as noticeable. That is the main reasons Tait trains were taken off when they were . There is heaps more that can be written about the Tait trains. Thanks for your comment.
That high pitched horn ( similar to the sound on VR diesel locomotives & the L class) will one day be gone from the Melbourne scene once Comeng trains are no more. Sprinter DMUs also sound similar. & the old Red Hen DMUs in Adelaide had that same brake smell.
The horns are basically rvb hurricane horns (3 or 5 chime?) The 3 chime rvb hurricane horns were installed on VR H, S, T, X and Y class diesels as well. The B classes however had twin horns
Such a part of my life. I paid attention to the trains a lot, growing up in Hampton. Born I 1963, it seemed that all the “Boys World” was vanishing before my eyes. Passenger liners, cargo ships (not container warehouses) planes with props, steam locomotives,country passenger trains etc. had been around for fifty years when I was born (which felt like a million years) and then, or ‘now’ as it seemed when I was 12 in 1975, they were vanishing. Sandringham kept up the red rattlers longer than most, and in this era, from the late 70s to early 80s, blue and silver trains were rare. Traits cam to ten Sandy, Port Melbourne and St Kilda lines to retire it seemed. I liked the ones with the celestory roofs. They had stenciled decorative reliefs stamped into the roofs. I don’t know when they made the “flat” ones, in rhink that might have been in the forties. Rene er that feeling, windows rattling, doors jammed open, whining motors, asbestos brakes, it almost seemed that.the frames were buckled and warped sometimes. Still I was sad when they scrapped them and was proud that we had 1920s vintage tolling stock in mass service in the early 80s. One thing must be said. By 1981 patronage had fallen severely. There was talk of mass closures. Thank goodness it didn’t happen. Thx for video!
The brake blocks with asbestos in them were said to be a major reason for the taking off of the Taits. Original brake blocks were cast iron and in stations where Taits had been stopping for many years, there was a film of rusty cast iron solidified dust from the brakes, When a Tait stopped, there was a familiar smell in the air of cast iron dust. Interesting to think back on. There are lots of stories that can be told about the Tait Trains and all the modifications that were done to them to keep them going over the years. You are right things certainly changed regarding railway operations and everything else as well. Steam to Albury and Sydney; changing trains at Albury, steam ships and ferries and there was an atmosphere and a satisfaction those days; now gone forever. .
Taits & Harris sets, that was Melbourne when I was a young boy going to my aunts for school holidays from the bush. The rattle and clank, humming/whining and buzz of the traction motors and the odd bang from an electrical flash over, they were the Tait sets. Was lucky to have had plenty of cab rides in the Tait and Harris sets as my uncles drinking mate was a VR driver. Had a heap of cartoons saved that Jeff Hook done for the Melbourne Sun News Pictorial of the Taits, lost them some years back, they were classics. Sorry, I don't find that "magic" in the new trains they are running now. Thanks for the memories reidgck.
METRO & the government don't want you to. & as the latter is many tens of millions of $ in debt, you can expect that historical rollingstock will be left to rot way in the corrosive sea air.
Well they were great. On a hot day you could open the door and leave it opened. If you fell out bad luck. When they were MTM-MTM in the later years they had great acceleration and were much faster. I remember seeing this configuration for the first time in about 1977 or early 78 and i knew the end was near and it was. They lasted for longer than I thought but I could see the excess of Tait M units being freed up by Hitachi train sets were being put to good use on the Sandy line. On thr Sandy line they used to have a 6 car set (they may have been 7 car set - I was still young so the details might be a bit foggy) with only 2x Ms and a D which was a motorless car with a drivers cab. I was too young to ride those on my own but by the time the 4x Ms train sets came along i was allowed to go to school on the train. On the Frankston line (iirc) they were 7 car sets with 3x M units. I went on an express one day on that line and we were going so fast i was scared. The bogey coils had sagged and it was getting coil bind on the track irregularities so badly that he whole car was hammering. I thought we might jump off the bloody tracks. This is no exaggeration. I was actually scared.
The Tait cars certainly had a presence about them but why wouldn't they?!..It would be epic to have seen the blue Harris trains on those lines but they rarely ever ran on them. Tell you what though, those old police helicopters certainly sounded more intimidating than they do now! A better and happier time some 40 years ago sigh.
Great footage love the 1st class and 2nd class carriages, lol :) also i believe there were two sandringham stations one was in port melbourne line platform 10 and then platform 11 was st kilda the end of the line, but the port melbourne line end of the line was sandringham station pier end of the line. :)
In the later years of the Tait trains and the St Kilda line, the trains ran between Sandringham and St Kilda through number 11 platform at Flinders Street station while number 10 was used by Port Melbourne line trains and they terminated there. They built a casino along the dual right of way before the 2 lines diverged and (so) converted the Port Melbourne and St Kilda lines to tram lines which turned off at Clarendon Street South Melbourne.
hmm, that's some mighty fine film to digital conversion i'm seeing. we had big gates at graham st. port melbourne. they swapped them for a bridge in 1969. the man in the signal box operated them using a big wheel like they have on pirate ships. as i watched your footage i'm watching gates swinging back and forth thinking is there a train coming or not? then i spotted the cyclist. how considerate of the gate operator. top film.
Yes the media referred to them as that. The videos are taken with first generation equipment which is unfortunately no where near as good as modern equipment.
The horns were put onto these 'Tait' trains about 1957. They replaced a tin whistle type of thing that was mounted in the very front near the drivers window. I don't know what the replacement horns names or model are but they are much the same as on later suburban trains too like the 'Harris" trains which were introduced while the Tait trains were still operating
The Tait's use the Victorian made Roy Victor Butler (R.V.B) 3 chime horns. Same as Hitachi and Comeng EMU. However, the inconsistency of manufacturing spec, aswell as different amount of wear result in an infinite amount of dialects produced by R.V.B horns of the same type. The horns date back to the late 50's and were made in Spotswood until the early 1980's, when the factory relocated. AFAIK R.V.B went out of business in 2015
@@CarePeers -- Made in Australia (with an e) but with General Electric equipment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tait_(train) There is a good summing up of the trains at the above page. They used to design and make huge steam locomotives in Australia too and much more. They were very clever those days.
Red Bird trains from NYC spent decades being other colors (Train Of Many Colors). Tait's were also origionly brown, like the restored Swing Door Cars. (or what dickhead Nicholus Archer left of them).
If Some One or a Group Had Some Running Luke New red Rattlers Running they Would Be Worth there Weight In Gold Now !! It Was Extremely Sad !!😢😢😢😢 When The Red rattlers Were Destroyed at Newport at the end of 2014 l Seen them at steamrail Open Day 2012 or 2014 They Were Works of ROLLING WORKS OF ART !!!
Surprised at the power to weight ratio to be honest, I always think of older builds as very heavy and slow. Apparently these could be hauled by locomotive as well, just lower the contact arms and use as regular carriages.
They could be towed by a locomotive but the traction motors were in mesh all the time so this wasn't done generally but a number of the trailer cars had both gas and electric lighting allowing them to be used on country trains in busy times. Power to weight was good in 7 car trains which had three motor cars (4 traction motors to each power car), two car trains with one motor car, and 4 car trains with 2 motor cars. Later in their lives some were run as three car trains with only one motor car as there was a shortage of trains as new ones were on order. The three car versions with only one motor struggled for power and were used on the flatter lines. They had a driver trailer at the other end of these trains. As new trains arrived it released motor cars and three car trains with two motor cars were formed. These had ample power.
@@reidgck I adore EMU's with this kind of flexibility. And just wow, these have some good acceleration. Definitely compared to the Red Rattlers we had in the USA
Wow. This easily could of been the early sixties in many parts of the USA.
Amazing that it lasted into the 80s
Its pretty impressive that those victorian old wooden boxes managed to survive long enough to serve 80s kids especially with the shinkansen already in service for a few decade
I love the early 1900s look of these taits
I lived in Sandringham and was a paper boy on the station for awhile-I was awfully young. Each and every noise is ingrained in my head-the gates bell clanging, the noise of the rails-everything. Damn it was cold there.
I was lucky enough to be in Australia back in the year 198081. I remember taking these beauties from Flinders Street to St Kilda. They were great in the summer months, the only aircon you had was the doors which were often left open, they could be a trifle chilly in the winter months as I remember, they were pretty draighty. Some of us rail enthusiasts used to call them 'Tait Freezers' 🤣🤣
Unfortunately I never got a chance to drive a Tait during my 34 yrs
Born on April 10, 1970, I grew up with both the 1910 - 18 built Tait "red" and 1956 - 71 built Harris "blue" trains on my own line in Melbourne's east. The one thing I remember is that whilst the General Electric traction motors on the Tait's were the loudest, the English Electric traction motors on the Harris a very close second, the horns on the Harris were slightly louder than those on the Tait, making the Harris trains' horns the loudest. Great video and good sound too👍👍👍👍👍✔️
I was born in 68 and grew up around trains in Burnley. Quite often I rode trains in the east with my Mum when young.
Glen Waverley, Box Hill, Camberwell or Ringwood shopping centres.
I miss the Harris trains the most.
And the old Box Hill station with 2 platforms.
I loved those trains, you could sit with the door open.🙂
you’d ask the station master how long is the next train and he’d close one eye and say “oooh - about seven carriages”.
In summer often take the train to Sandy beach from the northern suburbs. Always remember to take my passport😅.
Now from memory Sandringham trains used to become St Kilda trains once arriving at Flinders Street? I believe Port Melbourne trains always shuttled between Flinders St and Port Melb without running through to another destination?
God I miss these two lines.
Were Taits on the Sandringham line commonly 6-car sets? On Lilydale and Belgrave lines it was always 7-car and 4-car sets.
I was a guard on these trains. Started in 1980 . We used to run 6 car sets in the peak but I remember splitting them into two sets for the off peak service down at Sandringham. It was a dirty job. You had to get down on the ballast between the old buffers and unscrew and lift off the old coupling and take out the nine core electric cable and put it the holder. By the time you got back on the platform your nice blue uniform was covered in brown grime. I loved the Taits but they were freezing in winter.
Thanks for the insight - much appreciated!@@mendocinobeano
Thank you for the memories.
Worked in Greville Street, Prahran for 10 years just up from the crossing in the 1980's.
Yes, It's interesting to compare with the way the area is now
At 07:35, I would not think that anyone would made a gate like this anymore, because the maintenance cost will be too expensive.
Years ago there were such gates all over Melbourne They were operated with big wheels from nearby signal boxes by hand. Starting them swinging was the hard part but once they were moving they were hard to stop until they hit some catches which locked them into the closed position for road traffic. The catches were even with the road surface when but were raised when the gates were being closed and they brought the gates to a sudden stop.
@@reidgck I see!! So, now, the MET use those one-falling-stick-style-gate.
@@CarePeers Yes we're used to those now. At least with the gates you couldn't be trapped in a line of traffic on the crossing with a train coming.
@@reidgck Yes, I heard from some engineering people that those two way gates may trap a car in the railroad and cause accidents. Thus, nowdays, most of the train gate in the world is one way design.
About my side, in Hong Kong, those gate has been decommissioned since 1970s, because most train rails are operating under ground now.
I wonder how the taits worked in multiple
I have never heard a horn off a Tait until now, thanks for posting a video
The horns on the Taits on the video date from about 1957-56. About that time they were progressively installed replacing what were originally high pitched air operated whistles which were mounted in the middle of the front of the driving cars about the level of the driving window or perhaps a bit higher. They were mounted upright and should be able to be seen in early pictures of the driving or motor cars or driving trailer cars. That was just one of the many modifications done to the Tait cars over their operating life. The train configuration of MTM-MTM was the last of a variety of configurations used and was introduced as newer trains replaced Tait trains on other lines.Originally, the Taits ran as seven car trains which could be broken into two or four car sets. That is before the six car sets were introduced, partly from about the time when eight car sets with three motors and five trailers were run on the Frankston line which were underpowered and so were used on express runs. When six car sets started running on the shorter and flatter Sandringham line they too were underpowered because they were underpowered consisting two motors, two trailers and two driving trailers. I remember seeing a great shower of sparks coming from between the pantograph and the overhead at South Yarra one time when one driver exercised his impatience regarding the sluggish acceleration. Four motors on each six car train solved that problem. An interesting aspect of the Taits is that they original had cast iron brake shoes fitted. There was a unique smell of brake dust in the air after they stopped at stations. Over some years the brake dust built up on tracks at stations and covered the ballast and sleepers. When they changed the brake shoes to an asbestos composition in later years, there was concern about health problems with asbestos in the air although not as noticeable. That is the main reasons Tait trains were taken off when they were . There is heaps more that can be written about the Tait trains. Thanks for your comment.
That high pitched horn ( similar to the sound on VR diesel locomotives & the L class) will one day be gone from the Melbourne scene once Comeng trains are no more. Sprinter DMUs also sound similar.
& the old Red Hen DMUs in Adelaide had that same brake smell.
Infact the horn that is been used is called an rvb. First fitted in 1954 to all electric train and many other locos in the vr fleet.
The horns are basically rvb hurricane horns (3 or 5 chime?) The 3 chime rvb hurricane horns were installed on VR H, S, T, X and Y class diesels as well. The B classes however had twin horns
@2:10 The police Dauphin helicopter can be heard overhead.
Yeah pigs in space
AIR 490 flying overhead
Very nice video. I love the old Tait trains, the hand gates at Windsor, and the McK&H level crossing bell at Sandringham.
Such a part of my life. I paid attention to the trains a lot, growing up in Hampton. Born I 1963, it seemed that all the “Boys World” was vanishing before my eyes. Passenger liners, cargo ships (not container warehouses) planes with props, steam locomotives,country passenger trains etc. had been around for fifty years when I was born (which felt like a million years) and then, or ‘now’ as it seemed when I was 12 in 1975, they were vanishing. Sandringham kept up the red rattlers longer than most, and in this era, from the late 70s to early 80s, blue and silver trains were rare. Traits cam to ten Sandy, Port Melbourne and St Kilda lines to retire it seemed. I liked the ones with the celestory roofs. They had stenciled decorative reliefs stamped into the roofs. I don’t know when they made the “flat” ones, in rhink that might have been in the forties. Rene er that feeling, windows rattling, doors jammed open, whining motors, asbestos brakes, it almost seemed that.the frames were buckled and warped sometimes. Still I was sad when they scrapped them and was proud that we had 1920s vintage tolling stock in mass service in the early 80s. One thing must be said. By 1981 patronage had fallen severely. There was talk of mass closures. Thank goodness it didn’t happen. Thx for video!
The brake blocks with asbestos in them were said to be a major reason for the taking off of the Taits. Original brake blocks were cast iron and in stations where Taits had been stopping for many years, there was a film of rusty cast iron
solidified dust from the brakes, When a Tait stopped, there was a familiar smell in the air of cast iron dust. Interesting to think back on. There are lots of stories that can be told about the Tait Trains and all the modifications that were done to them to keep them going over the years. You are right things certainly changed regarding railway operations and everything else as well. Steam to Albury and Sydney; changing trains at Albury, steam ships and ferries and there was an atmosphere and a satisfaction those days; now gone forever. .
reidgck I see! I was wrong about the brakes. It was iron dust I was smelling. Thank goodness. Actually never known what asbestos smells like.
Hi nice Video may I use on of these clips and a Dog Box one?
before spray cans and magic markers....
Bygone days. More tolerable and more dignified.
Taits & Harris sets, that was Melbourne when I was a young boy going to my aunts for school holidays from the bush. The rattle and clank, humming/whining and buzz of the traction motors and the odd bang from an electrical flash over, they were the Tait sets. Was lucky to have had plenty of cab rides in the Tait and Harris sets as my uncles drinking mate was a VR driver. Had a heap of cartoons saved that Jeff Hook done for the Melbourne Sun News Pictorial of the Taits, lost them some years back, they were classics. Sorry, I don't find that "magic" in the new trains they are running now. Thanks for the memories reidgck.
Those traction motors
My dad's generation called these "Red Rattlers"! Would love to go for a ride on one one day!
METRO & the government don't want you to. & as the latter is many tens of millions of $ in debt, you can expect that historical rollingstock will be left to rot way in the corrosive sea air.
Well they were great. On a hot day you could open the door and leave it opened. If you fell out bad luck.
When they were MTM-MTM in the later years they had great acceleration and were much faster.
I remember seeing this configuration for the first time in about 1977 or early 78 and i knew the end was near and it was. They lasted for longer than I thought but I could see the excess of Tait M units being freed up by Hitachi train sets were being put to good use on the Sandy line.
On thr Sandy line they used to have a 6 car set (they may have been 7 car set - I was still young so the details might be a bit foggy) with only 2x Ms and a D which was a motorless car with a drivers cab. I was too young to ride those on my own but by the time the 4x Ms train sets came along i was allowed to go to school on the train.
On the Frankston line (iirc) they were 7 car sets with 3x M units.
I went on an express one day on that line and we were going so fast i was scared. The bogey coils had sagged and it was getting coil bind on the track irregularities so badly that he whole car was hammering. I thought we might jump off the bloody tracks. This is no exaggeration.
I was actually scared.
Great video of the Taits. Can I please use some of these clips for my video?
The Tait cars certainly had a presence about them but why wouldn't they?!..It would be epic to have seen the blue Harris trains on those lines but they rarely ever ran on them. Tell you what though, those old police helicopters certainly sounded more intimidating than they do now! A better and happier time some 40 years ago sigh.
Great footage love the 1st class and 2nd class carriages, lol :) also i believe there were two sandringham stations one was in port melbourne line platform 10 and then platform 11 was st kilda the end of the line, but the port melbourne line end of the line was sandringham station pier end of the line. :)
In the later years of the Tait trains and the St Kilda line, the trains ran between Sandringham and St Kilda through number 11 platform at Flinders Street station while number 10 was used by Port Melbourne line trains and they terminated there.
They built a casino along the dual right of way before the 2 lines diverged and (so) converted the Port Melbourne and St Kilda lines to tram lines which turned off at Clarendon Street South Melbourne.
hmm, that's some mighty fine film to digital conversion i'm seeing. we had big gates at graham st. port melbourne. they swapped them for a bridge in 1969. the man in the signal box operated them using a big wheel like they have on pirate ships. as i watched your footage i'm watching gates swinging back and forth thinking is there a train coming or not? then i spotted the cyclist. how considerate of the gate operator. top film.
Quick question. Isn't it also nicknamed the red rattler?
Yes the media referred to them as that. The videos are taken with first generation equipment which is unfortunately no where near as good as modern equipment.
Steamrail actually brought one of those trains back under its own power recently. Its true.
Living in Beaumaris in the 60's Sandringham was my station although, occasionally I used Cheltenham.
Shaun Tait is a huge fan of these trains.
I loved the sound of the first horn heard in the videos. What era were they? Do you know the name/model of the horn?
The horns were put onto these 'Tait' trains about 1957. They replaced a tin whistle type of thing that was mounted in the very front near the drivers window. I don't know what the replacement horns names or model are but they are much the same as on later suburban trains too like the 'Harris" trains which were introduced while the Tait trains were still operating
The Tait's use the Victorian made Roy Victor Butler (R.V.B) 3 chime horns. Same as Hitachi and Comeng EMU. However, the inconsistency of manufacturing spec, aswell as different amount of wear result in an infinite amount of dialects produced by R.V.B horns of the same type. The horns date back to the late 50's and were made in Spotswood until the early 1980's, when the factory relocated. AFAIK R.V.B went out of business in 2015
This were the red bird trains.
You probably mean 'red hen' trains' . No, Adelaide had those ones. These were known as the 'red rattlers'
@@reidgck Were they mad in Australia? I know that trains' parts may be produced in foreign countries and assembly in Australia.
@@CarePeers -- Made in Australia (with an e) but with General Electric equipment en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tait_(train) There is a good summing up
of the trains at the above page. They used to design and make huge steam locomotives in Australia too and much more. They were very clever those days.
@@reidgck I see!! So, they were designed in US, and then made and assembled in Australia.
Red Bird trains from NYC spent decades being other colors (Train Of Many Colors). Tait's were also origionly brown, like the restored Swing Door Cars. (or what dickhead Nicholus Archer left of them).
If Some One or a Group Had Some Running Luke New red Rattlers Running they Would Be Worth there Weight In Gold Now !! It Was Extremely Sad !!😢😢😢😢 When The Red rattlers Were Destroyed at Newport at the end of 2014 l Seen them at steamrail Open Day 2012 or 2014 They Were Works of ROLLING WORKS OF ART !!!
Surprised at the power to weight ratio to be honest, I always think of older builds as very heavy and slow.
Apparently these could be hauled by locomotive as well, just lower the contact arms and use as regular carriages.
They could be towed by a locomotive but the traction motors were in mesh all the time so this wasn't done generally but a number of the trailer cars had both gas and electric lighting allowing them to be used on country trains in busy times. Power to weight was good in 7 car trains which had three motor cars (4 traction motors to each power car), two car trains with one motor car, and 4 car trains with 2 motor cars. Later in their lives some were run as three car trains with only one motor car as there was a shortage of trains as new ones were on order. The three car versions with only one motor struggled for power and were used on the flatter lines. They had a driver trailer at the other end of these trains. As new trains arrived it released motor cars and three car trains with two motor cars were formed. These had ample power.
@@reidgck I adore EMU's with this kind of flexibility. And just wow, these have some good acceleration. Definitely compared to the Red Rattlers we had in the USA
Brilliant!
So very interesting, these old red rattlers.