Markus Winkelhock & The Nürburgring Shock

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024

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  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher Год назад +113

    In an alternate universe, we would see a young Max Verstappen clad in orange Spyker colours winning at Zandvort

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +33

      Interestingly, I've learnt since making this video that Spyker were interested in getting Jos Verstappen (who hadn't raced in F1 since 2003) in the car for the Belgian Grand Prix, or at least for Friday practice there.

    • @matthiascerebri3315
      @matthiascerebri3315 4 месяца назад +2

      and Winkelhock losing in a Red bull

  • @WoddCar
    @WoddCar Год назад +61

    The Winkelhoek story is one of my favorite in f1, just a thing you would never expect to happen

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +2

      And even so, you would've thought it was something from the 70s, or 80s, not 15 years ago!

    • @TheElDoctoro24
      @TheElDoctoro24 7 месяцев назад

      The unthinkable comes to mind

    • @IanRB26
      @IanRB26 Месяц назад

      Anything can happen in Formula One and it usually does.

  • @rafleggy2fast486
    @rafleggy2fast486 Год назад +68

    No 👏 one 👏 can 👏 break 👏 the 👏 WinkelROCK
    Amazing video as always, legit very emotional! Many thanks!!!

    • @RobJaskula
      @RobJaskula Год назад +1

      What was that channel called?! I've been trying to find it again for a couple of years. AYRRRRTONNN SENNNA DO BRASIL

    • @alifsaleh6864
      @alifsaleh6864 Год назад +7

      @@RobJaskula Mystery Science Theater F1 or MSTF1 for short.

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      Thank you, glad you liked it!

    • @ronaldoginting5799
      @ronaldoginting5799 Год назад +6

      Master of Strategy and Awesome fella!!!

    • @sergeantsupreme4395
      @sergeantsupreme4395 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@RobJaskulayears lol just type in "no one can break the winkelrock"

  • @johnk1589
    @johnk1589 Год назад +33

    This was a masterpiece of a video. Had quite a few unexpected laughs throughout the story too.

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад

      Thank you John!

    • @trosc
      @trosc 6 месяцев назад

      Not gonna lie but "racing legend Pastor Maldonado" had me in stitches.

  • @jasonchicas9736
    @jasonchicas9736 Год назад +13

    Imagine if Markus Winkelhock won the race we will hear the German and Dutch national anthem on the podium what an interesting combination would that be

    • @CrashExhibition
      @CrashExhibition Год назад +1

      Wilhelmus van Nassouwe
      Ben ick van Duytschen Bloedt
      I don’t know, seems like it would fit!

    • @eerohurmerinta5847
      @eerohurmerinta5847 Год назад +3

      The only scenario where I can see that happening is that downpour had lasted whole day, meaning no restart, Winkelhock wins and half points awarded.

  • @redshift6170
    @redshift6170 Год назад +11

    That last line, about his father, that really hit hard!

  • @aifrench14
    @aifrench14 Год назад +17

    It's moments like this that make sport great for me, the "every dog has his day" moment, the plucky underdog defying the odds with a piece of quick thinking. It's the F1 equivalent of Roy Essandoh, the lower league journeyman who joined Wycombe Wanderers when they were desperate for a striker and he scored one goal for them but that goal was the winner against Leicester City in the FA Cup and wrote him into football legend. There will be footballers and racing drivers who have much stronger careers than Winklehock and Essandoh but will be easily forgotten but these glorious five minutes of fame will give these guys cult hero status forever :)

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +6

      Absolutely. I think it was in my Frentzen video when I mentioned those little moments like those you said above - they can be few and far between in sports typically dominated by the same faces over and over again. But when you do get a Winkelhock or someone do something like this, that makes you appreciate it all the more.

  • @merobo5066
    @merobo5066 Год назад +26

    It surprised me how often Alexandre Prémat showed up in this. There's the Formula 3 Euro series, test driver role for Midland and the Tom Kristensen crash in Hockenheim.
    One note on the DTM cars though: Those were touring cars in name only, the silhouette cars used at that time being basically prototypes disguised as an Audi A4/Mercedes C-Class respectively (Edit: obviously still significantly different to an F1 car, but also significantly different to what people commonly expect a touring car to be)

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +4

      I remember I was quite surprised he wasn't given more of a shot in F1 - 4th and 3rd in his two GP2 seasons, plus an A1GP champion!
      Good point on the DTM front. The only reason I dropped them into the 'touring car' category was that I do try and make this so that it's accessible for everyone; from racing novices to seasoned veterans like you and me!

    • @HallucinatingHedgehogs
      @HallucinatingHedgehogs Год назад +1

      @@TheMobileChicane very good point about keeping the videos accessible. To bad the dtm was and recently was so severely mismanaged since it’s a great series with some awesome tracks. I was too young and didn’t have access to European racing when dtm was at its craziest through the late 90’s and early to mid 2000’s. But I always removed driving some of those cars in grand turismo 3 and marveling at all the aero and their speed

  • @King_Goat_JJ
    @King_Goat_JJ Год назад +4

    I was sad at the time he didn't drive again for the rest of the season but I agree with you that him leading the race at Nurbergring wouldn't be so fondly remembered as what it is still to this day. When I do get to talk to pals this race always comes up for two reasons, one it's a fantastic race & two Markus Winklehock

  • @BiggieTrismegistus
    @BiggieTrismegistus Год назад +12

    If you're an American seeing inklehock sponsored by something called "superfund" is pretty funny. The US federal government runs something called that for the purposes of environmental remediation. Thus "superfund" here is associated with disastrous pollution.
    Glad to have you back. You're seriously the one of the best F1 RUclipsrs and people *will* find you. I started watching F1 in 2013 so I appreciate you covering the less well known but still fascinating aspects of the sport's past.W

    • @BobbyGeneric145
      @BobbyGeneric145 Год назад +1

      First thing I thought too... The superfund is sponsoring race teams?!

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад

      Haha, that's great!
      Thanks for watching, and for the kind words.

  • @-STONECYPHER-
    @-STONECYPHER- Год назад +7

    It takes something special to hold onto a lead that comes at you out of absolutely nowhere. Think of Ocon last year. Sure, his gaining the lead had very little to do with his own performance, other than being good at dodging the debris.
    But the fact he held it together for the rest of the race and didn't crack under the pressure meant he absolutely deserved it when he came home to win. And obviously, props to the lord of the eyebrows for being a bro and holding up Hamilton.

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      And it was some almighty pressure at that! Sure, Sebastian Vettel a year away from retirement in an Aston Martin isn't the same as a peak Vettel in a Red Bull - but that was still heaps of experience and talent hounding Esteban throughout the race. And like you say, Esteban didn't crack!

  • @RexytheRexy
    @RexytheRexy 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love this video. What a remarkable story (and quite the display of wet-weather driving skill). The moment when Markus looked up at the replay of the Kimi pass got me where I live, and his smile when he got out of the car will stay in my memory for a long time.
    There's something beautiful about the stories of drivers like Manfred Winkelhock. They may not ever stand on a podium, but their fans love them and cheer them on as though they're fighting for wins.
    I wonder how many of Manfred's fans had tears in their eyes watching Markus that day.

  • @anareel4562
    @anareel4562 Год назад +2

    That Torro Rosso hitting the loader while backwards under yellow is some foreshadowing...

  • @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance
    @lorddrac_dontaskmetodance Год назад +3

    Back to the Winkelhock family history, while they hadn't made the biggest impact on the F1 stat sheet, that family has bred some of the greatest touring/sports car racers ever. A lot of fans only judge a driver off of their F1 stats; I'm not one of these people, because even though F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport, it's not the "be all, end all" of motorsport. So, when I look at the Winkelhock family, I see "oh; brilliant touring car racing drivers," not "oh; random F1 drivers."

  • @barkor4083
    @barkor4083 Год назад +27

    I genuinely wonder how his career might've turned out, had he made his racing debut a decade or so earlier
    He clearly must've had some great potential, to fight the likes Kubica and Rosberg despite having about 10 years worth of disadvantage in terms of when he's made his debut
    In my opinion, he could've developed into a very solid driver, comparable with his fellow countryman, Nick Heidfeld

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +8

      I'd be inclined to agree, I think that's a fair analysis. Anyone who can take it to two F1 talents like that, with a significant disadvantage in development, has got something special about them.

  • @magnus8069
    @magnus8069 3 месяца назад +1

    Another case of “Anything can happen in F1, and it usually does”

  • @miggygetright6344
    @miggygetright6344 Год назад +3

    I think a cool video idea would be Kevin Magnussen’s journey in F1. In podcasts and in his book he’s mentioned lots of things, his links to Force India for his first years in F1, his stint at Renault, his links to Toro Rosso and his link to Williams in 2021. Think most people don’t know about that

  • @smorajs
    @smorajs 4 месяца назад

    This was one of the best F1 videos I’ve ever watched. Amazing work, thank you for all the feels!

  • @urugamersOficial
    @urugamersOficial Год назад +6

    Oh yeah!!! New Mobile Chicane video!!!! The hype is real!

  • @LS-li4uv
    @LS-li4uv Год назад +7

    A brilliant video. Truly a tribute to the man, the name, and the beautiful sport.

  • @CaptainPakka
    @CaptainPakka Год назад +2

    Been watching F1 since the seventies and had totally forgotten that race and that guy. Great story well told. Thank you.

  • @Masca79
    @Masca79 Год назад +2

    The awesome quality of this channel needs more attention!

  • @SultanOfAwesome
    @SultanOfAwesome Год назад +3

    Great video as always, one of the few f1 stories that end on a high note. You could take a look at Scott speed there was defenetly no high notes in that ending

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I've considered Scott Speed for a video in the past as there's some interesting notes to his tale. A product of the Red Bull Driver Search to find and promote some American talent into F1, and then had to pause his career after suffering ulcerative colitis. And of course his time in F1 was pretty full on - scoring his first point in Australia, and then losing it afterwards as well as being fined for swearing at David Coulthard in the stewards room. Then the next year, an alleged altercation with Franz Tost post this race. There's some juicy gossip in that tale for sure!

  • @DontTreadOnMe777777
    @DontTreadOnMe777777 Год назад +4

    Stumbled across this video and proceeded to binge all of your fantastic content, keep up the great work mate! :D

  • @angus_bangus
    @angus_bangus Год назад +3

    Pure Quality. Thank you so much! Keep the great videos coming!!!

  • @matthiascerebri3315
    @matthiascerebri3315 Месяц назад

    One of the biggest sensations, period

  • @roncolvin4302
    @roncolvin4302 Год назад +4

    I feel it was a pity that the race was able to get underway again after the red flag, because then Markus Winkelhock would have become the only F1 championship race winner to have the record of 100% wins to races competed in. The starting from the back of the grid with the worst car would have just added icing to the cake.

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      Ah but then, you could argue that surely Markus would've held onto the seat for a few more races after that. Regardless of money, if a guy wins your first race out of nowhere, you'd be mad to drop him!

  • @BerserkerRohan
    @BerserkerRohan Год назад +8

    This is a story that I did have good knowledge about before since I did get to watch some highlights of this race before but it was nice to also learn the extra details about Winkelhock himself since he did have a great career in motorsport especially after his F1 outing considering his success in endurance racing. His performance that day was down to a very good call on the tyres but it was great to see him use the knowledge of the track to make that inspired call as well as keeping the car on the track considering he never drove a F1 car in the wet before. I do wonder where he could have ended up if the race wasn't red flagged and his hydraulics didn't fail. I find Sakon Yamamoto more interesting after his racing career since he became a politician and one that shows the benefits of motorsport which was nice.
    Anyways, the F1 season is over and as it turns out, Max was very dominate this year considering his record number of wins but this new era of car did lead too much closer racing which did make the fights in the midfield very interesting. The end of the season did prove quite epic like Magnussen's pole, Russell's first win and Vettel going out with a bang and I am going to miss him a lot. Next season could prove interesting due to how close the top three teams ended up performance wise at the end of the season. Since this video was about a rookie, here is hoping that Sargeant will have a good rookie season with Williams as well as Williams climbing up the pecking order too.
    My channel has grown quite a bit too since I can also make community posts too which has allowed me interact with my friends in more ways which is really nice.

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      Yes, I only learned recently that Yamamoto was a politician now!
      As you might expect, I'm also hoping for a good 2023 for Williams and Sargeant - with Albon leading the way I'm hopeful for a climb into the midfield and more regular, and bigger, points finishes.
      Congratulation on the channel growth!

    • @BerserkerRohan
      @BerserkerRohan Год назад +1

      @@TheMobileChicane It was pretty cool to learn about too.
      I hope for the same since I do wonder what Albon can do with a better car since he did quite amazing last season despite having the slowest car on the grid. Latifi not so much unless we are talking Japan.
      Thank you.

  • @mgrzx3367
    @mgrzx3367 Год назад +3

    Fantastic! I watched this race. Loved that worst to first happened. Thank you for filling in the gaps. I think everyone who went off, shouldn't have been allowed to rejoin the race. Ehem, outside assistance equals disqualification. Been a rule since the 1960's, except when they need more show. Arigatou Sensei. 😅

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      I'm still very unclear quite how that was allowed to happen! Something to do with Lewis keeping his engine running, although how that constitutes being lifted back onto the circuit, I'm not sure...

  • @fatrick5004
    @fatrick5004 Год назад +2

    Only just discovered….only just subscribed…big fan already.

  • @bastilein1
    @bastilein1 Год назад +3

    Tolles Video zu einem der besten Momente in der Saison 2007!

  • @nducation8039
    @nducation8039 Год назад +1

    I remember watching that race and thinking "This new guy is great!".

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      I think we all did! Which speaks volumes given the hype around Hamilton at the same time!

  • @woldemarvonschutzmann7818
    @woldemarvonschutzmann7818 Год назад +6

    Cool content, really like it. that way of giving info, voice and somewhat niche topics with not so long vids... That is and will be the success. Wish you luck in your future and... don''t stop believing!

  • @laurynaspeluritis2378
    @laurynaspeluritis2378 Год назад +1

    I absolutely love your work! Great memes, good voice, and brilliant scripts!
    I would rate you on the same level as Aidan Millward and Josh Revel, so clearly this channel deserves more subs:)

  • @kieran8881
    @kieran8881 Год назад +2

    Great video and channel mate

  • @swampthing94
    @swampthing94 26 дней назад +1

    You cannot break the Winkelrock

  • @frguitar777
    @frguitar777 11 месяцев назад

    Wow. I just find your channel here. FANTASTIC CONTENT.

  • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
    @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Год назад

    2007 was the first F1 season I watched, and what a season that was!
    I distinctly remember being confused by Ferrari at the front, and orange (Spyker) Ferraris at the back when watching the 2007 Australian GP.

  • @BobbyGeneric145
    @BobbyGeneric145 Год назад +2

    Such a great channel

  • @oldanalytics3626
    @oldanalytics3626 Год назад

    He is one of that talented racing drivers, who never got a real chance because of no money and personal sponsors.... Winkelhock is a very talented racing driver, he proofed it in several motorsport classes. he is one of that aces that you can place in whatever car you want - he will perform

  • @Vogelaufmzaun
    @Vogelaufmzaun Год назад +2

    The ending got my eyes all wet.

  • @scottbarnes3116
    @scottbarnes3116 Год назад

    The most underrated race of all time

  • @SultanOfAwesome
    @SultanOfAwesome Год назад +2

    Maybe I should start watching dtm. Seems like there's a lot of f1 calliber drivers there

  • @marcusaureliusantoninusaug2161
    @marcusaureliusantoninusaug2161 5 месяцев назад

    It was a great story, I rooted for him back that day, despite being a Ferrari fan.
    On top of that he is a good looking lad imo :)

  • @MrSniperfox29
    @MrSniperfox29 Год назад +3

    The funny thing is today he would be penalised for receiving "driver coaching" as the team is not allowed to tell their driver anything on the formation lap.

    • @jacobmassey3897
      @jacobmassey3897 Год назад +4

      The FIA are so slow at making simple decisions that he would've retired with his reliability problem before they had a chance to penalise him anyway 🤣

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 Год назад +2

      @@jacobmassey3897 Possible, but its more of we can't have such a great strategic decision these days because the FIA won't allow it.
      You can literally coach your driver corner by corner for the entire race, but don't you dare tell them anything on the formation lap, that's driver coaching

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +2

      Maybe it wouldn't be 'driver coaching'.. it could be, 'heavily implied idea suggestions, but no actual coaching I swear'.

  • @grahammc3189
    @grahammc3189 Год назад

    Amazing video as always. This deserves more likes .

  • @KimiFan2002
    @KimiFan2002 Год назад +1

    It’s a shame he didn’t have the money needed to get a few more races. Reckon he would have easily been a match for sutil once he’d gotten more experience

  • @perspii2808
    @perspii2808 Год назад

    Pretty amazing how good he is considering he started at 17

  • @timpeachey9394
    @timpeachey9394 Год назад +2

    Amazing to think of the clearly thought out and well delivered content here and you only have 5k subscribers, but click bait nonsense from the likes of mainstream F1 journalists gets them hundreds of thousands of subscribers.

  • @callsignsoviet978
    @callsignsoviet978 Год назад

    Hell yeah another mobile chicane video 😍 and another amazing one at that

  • @willdemersseman5049
    @willdemersseman5049 Год назад +2

    Love your content man keep it up!!

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 6 месяцев назад

    that was the only good strategy call Mike Gascoyne ever made

  • @miggygetright6344
    @miggygetright6344 Год назад

    This channel is amazing

  • @carburetor77
    @carburetor77 Год назад

    Love this title

  • @ItsAllIndieFred
    @ItsAllIndieFred Год назад

    This video is longer than the amount of time Markus was in the lead...

  • @Tj930
    @Tj930 Год назад +1

    Nice video 👍

  • @plisskenationbackfromthede3657
    @plisskenationbackfromthede3657 Год назад +3

    Still mad i lost my spyker f1 hat that i bought at indy 07. They were my underdogs. Markus is the 🐐

  • @jottdee4153
    @jottdee4153 Год назад

    great story - well done!

  • @townicus5908
    @townicus5908 Год назад

    Great video as always :)

  • @davidserdenciuc3412
    @davidserdenciuc3412 Год назад +1

    nice video bro keep it up❤

  • @alfieaolomons6560
    @alfieaolomons6560 Год назад

    Love the video. But I have changed job, crashed and bought another bike, met my now girlfriend and her family since your last upload.

  • @benjamindepew
    @benjamindepew Год назад +1

    So...Damn...Good.

  • @ryandoubleu.
    @ryandoubleu. Год назад

    25:10 I’m sure I’m not the only one that cringed at the site of that tractor

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +2

      You're not - I could scarcely believe my eyes when I rewatched the race again!

  • @FixItAMIGO
    @FixItAMIGO Год назад

    Those cars looked good 👍

  • @BobbyGeneric145
    @BobbyGeneric145 Год назад +1

    How were the cars stuck in the gravel trap allowed to rejoin after being lifted out?

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      It was only Hamilton who was able to rejoin the race from the group who slid off at Turn One. Something to do with the fact that he'd kept his engine running in that time; though I'm a little unclear why that allows you to be lifted out of a gravel trap...

  • @albertpedersen7949
    @albertpedersen7949 Год назад

    isent this the same voice as the beyond ghibli chanel

  • @lordhenrywotton95
    @lordhenrywotton95 Год назад

    AT IT! Adam Carroll is Irish!

  • @timpeachey9394
    @timpeachey9394 Год назад

    Just came for the comments bro.

  • @mb4shmsh4aaaa
    @mb4shmsh4aaaa Год назад

    Великий Багетти!

  • @indy500tabasco8
    @indy500tabasco8 Год назад +1

    i got allergies to gossipers and small town people. they need to get a life. Martinsville Indiana is bad

  • @zigwald
    @zigwald Год назад

    Markus was robbed!!!!!!

  • @axemanracing6222
    @axemanracing6222 Год назад +3

    The real tragedy is the FIA behaviour. If I remember right, he was the only driver going on full wets. The others decided to spin out with inters. A red flag was unnecessary as at the 2022 Suzuka GP. It was pouring down but everyone's on inters. FIA has the right to send them out on full wets. Instead we have to watch a 1 hour delay evertime rain comes out. Send the safety car out to collect the wreckers and advise the drivers to change to full wets.

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад +1

      What blew my mind watching this race back was how relaxed the FIA were about letting the recovery vehicles dawdle about Turn 1 whilst cars were aquaplaning off there left and right. Look how close Liuzzi comes to coming into contact with one of them!

    • @Cynderfan35
      @Cynderfan35 Год назад +1

      @@TheMobileChicane and we didn't learn that danger enough until 2014, that dark day at Suzuka GP when we lost one rising star...
      PS: that ending.. damn hit deep, when thinking what if Markus would have had his father there that day, seeing that moment? for sure would been a moment to remember.

  • @jeffmattel7867
    @jeffmattel7867 Год назад

    The team ROLLED THE DICE thats all there is to this stupid story. There is no champion in the making here its just someone playing dice and getting it right while it lasted. Once reality paid a visit it was all back to normal.

  • @gooddypm
    @gooddypm Год назад +2

    First time viewer and I have to say that I don’t subscribe to a channel until I’ve watched at least 1/2 a dozens videos. That way I know whether or not I’ll enjoy the content and the person hosting.
    That’s changed today. The style, depth of research and production was excellent.
    And loved the blatant rip off (or should that be tear off) of Conversation Street.

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад

      Thanks so much!
      And I must admit I'd never even heard of Conversation Street until you mentioned it. Where was the blatant tear off? I'd love to know!

    • @gooddypm
      @gooddypm Год назад

      @@TheMobileChicane Converstion Street was on The Grand Tour. When Clarkson, Hammond no May left the BBC and did their new series on Amazon, they weren’t allowed to use the names of segments the used on Top Gear such as The News, they called it Conversation Street.
      And tear off instead of rip off I thought was a funny pun, F1 drivers helmets have tears off on them.

    • @TheMobileChicane
      @TheMobileChicane  Год назад

      @@gooddypm Okay, this makes much more sense, since I googled Conversation Street and the first recommended was a Coronation Street podcast! Which I was struggling to see how I'd accidentally referenced!

    • @gooddypm
      @gooddypm Год назад +1

      @@TheMobileChicane 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
      Again, thank you for the videos. The production quality is outstanding, and the research is unbelievable.

  • @andbor
    @andbor Год назад +1

    Big fan of the channel, keep it up!

  • @spdrable
    @spdrable Год назад +1

    great story!