MUST WATCH! The Invention of White People & Its Relevance Today with Dr. Jacqueline Battalora.
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Isn't it sad that the people who need to hear this won't hear it😢. This is a must listen. Thank you!
share it widely...perhaps they will.
Yesssssssssssss INDEED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I say this all the time Deborah! The things we watch like the 1619 Project, we watch, we learn and share with our communities but the people that need to watch and learn won’t entertain it!
The same way you don't hear from opposition. Everybody is living in their own echo chamber and not only they like it that way, they are encouraged to do so.
As an example it was so hilarious when people left twitter simply because it was bought by someone who may not adhere to radical leftist ideology. Why? because it might hurt their perfect left wing bubble.
@@WankerDictator people were leaving not because of political ideology, but because of the rise of toxic engagement. it wasn't about right and left, but right and WRONG! and a lack of accountability and consequences.
In 1681, the Virginia Colony may have started using the term "White". But, in Maryland, they used the term "White" in 1638 according to Dr. Claude Anderson it was called the Doctrine of Exclusion.
THE 1638 MARYLAND DOCTRINE OF EXCLUSION: The Maryland Doctrine of Exclusion was collectively written by the Maryland Colony Council in 1638, and states the following, “Neither the existing black population, their descendants, nor any other blacks shall be permitted to enjoy the fruits of White society.” I would guess that the Virginia Colony got their definition of White People from Maryland who used the term "White" first.
Not enough people discuss this _essential_ topic... we need infinitely more people like yourself, Dr. Battalora and Jane Elliott!
Thank you for all you do, Karen 🙏
As a light-skinned Arab-American, with African-American family, it's fascinating (read: truly delusional) to see how this identity of "whiteness" is given and taken away, depending on what environment I'm in, and whether people around me know I'm Arabic or not, and depending on my behavior... or to see as a little kid how my Arab-American grandfather disowned his own culture and embraced white supremacist ideology in an effort to white-wash his own identity because, as a child, he'd seen his very dark-skinned father experience racism and called awful racial slurs when he came to this country and my grandfather didn't want to experience similar treatment. Thankfully, when karma gave him black grandchildren, he understood he'd been wrong.
Other than being a complete racist, and hating her own race, what in the hell has she really done for society? Absolutely nothing but further divide races!
Thanks for sharing that
Wow, your experience gives you some really powerful insight...Thanks for sharing..
It all begins with Bacon’s Rebellion. The last time the working class stood together against the rich.
I'll have to look at that. Thx for the lead.
The bundles of laws that she is speaking of is called Black codes.
There needs to be a national televised program on the history of the US BEFORE 1619. Just a thought. Great conversation!
You need to learn true world history if you think they're right. The Achaix channel might help you unlearn your brainwashing.
I agree. Could be quite revealing.
This information is in books. Try Dr Ben. Africa Mother of Western Civilization. Then read Stolen Legacy, George James. If you don’t know black history before North American chattel slavery then the white media got you in the matrix. Str8 like that.
@@msrenee7023 free or not all black people in North America have been subjugated, dehumanized and still own the same amount of wealth of the country as they did during chattel slavery. Less than 1%. Also black population owns absolutely no institutions. So differentiate yourself if you want it leads to absolutely nothing.
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Professor Hunter, thank you for sharing and to Dr. Jacqueline Battalora. kudos
I heard this amazing conversation on Sirius and when Dr. Battalora said "a divide and conquer strategy" I said hold up, wait a minute....that worked so well the bastards are rolling with it until the wheels fall off.
yup...we have to flatten the tires...all of them!
The word ‘Black’ can be traced back to its proto Indo-European origins through the word ‘blac’ which meant pale, wan, colourless, or albino.
‘Blac’ was incorporated into Old French as Blanc, Italian and Spanish as Blanco, Bianca, Bianco, Bianchi.
In Old English “blac” person meant fair; someone devoid of colour, similar to the word “blanc” which still means white or fair person.
In Middle English the word was spelt as “blaec” same thing as the modern word “black”, only at that time, around 1051 AD, it still meant a fair skin, or so-called white person. The words “blacca” an Old/Middle English word still resonates with “blanke” the Dutch-Germanic term for white people of today.
It was not till the sixteenth century that the semantic broadening of black occured- both figurative connotations as well as literal.
From ‘blac, blake, bleaken, blaccen’ and their literal meaning ‘to bleach out or make white, blond or pale’ came the figurative meaning ‘to stain someones reputation, or defame’ or darken. Literally “blac” by that time came to mean night-like colour, dark. One can say a very dramatic shift indeed. It was also the era, when the Vandals and the Goths were busy writing themselves into history and writing out the European Mauros (melan-chros or melanin people) out of history
“Grafted into this system,” that’s a description that I’ve never heard before so succinctly put. Dr. Hunter you said it, we’ve been grafted.
Wow, professor Hunter and Dr. Battalora in conversation? I couldn't ask for better. Now I gotta catch the replay of the full interview on SiriusXM. ♥️
yes...it was one for the ages. I'm still processing. @siriusxm
Serendipity! Had just finished reading in My Grandmother's Hands about the racialized terms appearing in colonial laws in the 1680's. Before that time, no legal distinction.
WOW!
I was familiar with 'some' of this, but not all.
So all I can say is, "thank you" to both ladies for filling in the blanks.
Thank you for sharing this interview Prof. Hunter. Seeking to see the whole interview so I can share it with all my friends. Sending you lots of love from Italy ♥️
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@@KarenHunterShow this ignored discussion is the reason black women are the enemy right now. They are being uplifted above black man in career opportunity black man is designed to control stuff run stuff own stuff we are not workers 😂 but as she stated until this day a black man cant do those things. So we get left behind the ones of us who are built to be workers make it in white conformeity. 90% of us isnt built for conforming. So only the talented 10th is able to make it in this climate. White men are sacrificed here and there to make it seem like we equal. Im a free negro periodt. Thats why im homeless every time I do anything it dont last long when I buy a car it dont last long. Their racism has upgraded to "technology" and "contracts" to keep moving the bar away or to keep us impovrished. Its alot of us sick and mentally ill bcuz of the technology they gave away what they been doing on two movies Get Away and the netflix series Lovecraft Country..white ppl dont really have they are just foot soilders for sum Aliens called reptilians nobody wants to go that far with it. We just keep talkin about blk n white issues but whose given whites the means to have technology, machines, which is basically "magic" whose given them that to rule over us???
Excellent thank you Professor Hunter for having her on.
Mannnn .... this interview was POWERFUL. Thank you Professor Hunter
The starting line was moved on a group of people by law. It's time to pay those people what was lost due to over 400 years of these laws. Period!
Truly needed Thanks Professor Hunter...
Wow, Dr. Battalora. I've learned a LOT from her book about the beginning of this country's beginnings. I've always recommended her book(s). She deserves respect for sticking her neck out to do what's right. I give credit where credit is due, period. I'm not one of those militants who are too blind to see that great info is great info, no matter who it comes from. It's NEVER been the African/Black way. Much respect to her and you Dr. Hunter because you've always been on it. Can't forget about Dr. Carr.
Much needed discussion.
Conversation that needed to be in history book
Loved her book. Read it about 3 months ago and will definitely go through it again
Yall let people off the hook. Old folks maybe but hatred and prejudice is a choice for the most part. I was raised in the hood surrounded by violence and all.kinds of stuff but I chose to reject the negative. I cant fw prejudice or ignorant people. family or not. We cant be cool. Shes talking about BACONS REBELLION! yes ive studied that. Free black people were stripped of rights. Couldnt own guns, land and vote. Before people were christian and non christian
This very informative and enlightening. I think I understand what is meant by race is a social construct.
Interesting perspective. Thank you.
Thank you so much Prof. Hunter..This conversation was everything. I so appreciate you tackling these absolutely transformative pieces of of our journey with clarity and simplicity. The way you engaged that human being on your show and allowed her to explore, divulge, embrace and transcend her own boundaries and come to new ways of seeing and understanding her own work, and in so doing, pushing us all to freedom. Thank you. Anhk Udja Seneb!
Thank you so very much! Enlightenment for me Dr. Hunter.
Thank you!
Fasinating! This explains a lot of the conflict in America along racial lines.
And once Yakub’s 600-year “made man” entered the world, all of history took a devastating turn. Early signs of this were evident with the ancient Egyptians, who worried about a strange tribe of blue-eyed people they called Tamahu-“the created ones”-a clear allusion to their unnatural origins. The Tamahu had moved onto the edge of the desert and demonstrated a proclivity for trouble-making, foreshadowing a troubling modus operandi. The making of the white man
I love reading about bacon’s rebellion!!! Being from Norfolk Virginia, I understand why we just glanced over the importance of bacon’s rebellion. We are deservingly %%%%## in this country …. Great interview!
Being born in an abnormal culture causes people to think abnormal is normal. Being able to see and identify cultural abnormalities without being harmed by them is a gift.
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terrorized for generations makes it almost impossible to have a NORMAL HUMAN Mentality.
@@cme1713 WTFU you hold in your hand, watch and log onto is the modern conduit for this insanity to prevail
I think if BIRDS can do it we can😂😂😂
Great show 💯 Shared
thank you!
@@KarenHunterShow You're so welcome.
You're amazing!👏🏼💯❤️
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Hello Professor Hunter. Have you read a book titled "War against all Puerto Ricans"? written by Nelson A Denis it is a detailed history of how the United States has treated the island since the Spanish American War. I happened upon this book because I wanted to get a better picture on the pros and cons of Puerto Rican statehood. While I did not get that info ( I am halfway through the book) , I was not prepared for what I got. I think if you have not read it you would be utterly shocked ( maybe not) at what the United States is capable of.
Wow! After this interview I want this book.
Thabk you Prof. Hunter & Dr. Battalora ❤ Well, I want to inform the Supreme Court that tis is not 1681 & we are not tolerating the BS. 😂
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GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really appreciate this conversation with Dr. Battalora. What I appreciate even more is that she does not shrink from the reality of racism and embrace of whiteness as a conscious choice. It's admirable, Prof Hunter, that you gave her the potential out of her grandparents being nice people who just didn't know better. We have got to stop defaulting to that; it's almost more harmful than assuming the racist stance. As a Chicagoan, trust me her Teamster grandfather chose racism and all of its consequences every single day. It's equally clear she understands this. We should as well.
It is complete and utter nonsense you do realise..... it is called a psyop.
re: " We have got to stop defaulting to that;"
What happened 3 generations ago doesn't matter = none of us are responsible for what happened = why can't U move on up to today, change your parents and 'friends' ....
Thanks Professor Hunter once again you keeps on hitting Home Runs at Ever at Bat. ❤❤❤
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Great book
Karen... Your TEA drinking game is on point!!!🤣🫖🧋
Absolutely riviting. I hit "subscribe". 'Nuff said right there...
welcome to the Family!
She's historically correct! I read about Bacon's Rebellion in my US History Class at the community college here in Texas. The upper class heavily persuaded the poor White people that they were better than Black people, when they all were treated equally before. I was like🤯
Divide n conquer
Yep!
We're actually living within a CLASS War
"disguised as" a RACE War.
❤❤❤❤ this put things in perspective as far as I am concerned thank you so much
Sometimes history can hit you in your chest
Yeah. You know how like how the Dahomey tribe in sold enslaved blacks to the white's in the Atlantic Slave Trade. HMM pretty ironic. Why is she not talking about this?
“I’m a product of the society I was born in” “it’s not my fault I turned out this way”
Who are the exponents of Society?
If we assume that a hypothetical Utopia existed before the concept of "whiteness" was invented, what were the criteria that led to black people being specifically chosen as scapegoats? It seems unlikely that this was a random choice and more likely that it was part of a strategy of divide and rule, as suggested by Dr. However, it is unclear what the discriminatory criteria were unless the concept of whiteness already existed and was only reinforced later for profit.
one has to ask not only what were the criteria but who pushed those through. if one looks deep enough, one will find (((them)))
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“Free Black men ran and held public office…that was life up and through Bacon’s Rebellion”
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“Whatsoever things common to man, that man has done, man can do” -Marcus Garvey
Really enjoyed it. Learned something
Great interview Karen
thank you.
This was a great intro to Dr Battalora. I'll have to check out the book...Thanks ladies..
Very interesting insight from the guest.
ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWING LISTEN AND GUEST!
Wow, thank you both.
I grew up black. My neighbors, schools, church, friends. All black. The only time I ran into a white person is when there was trouble involved. I loved growing up in Buffalo NY.
Did you grew up on the East side? I was on the West with a mix of white, black and hispanics.
Damn ! What a powerful show sister Karen. And I like the comparison you made…. ie King Charles then and now 🤨. I’m picking up what you’re putting down. Nothing has changed. Divide and conquer is in full effect. Your guest broke it down. As you and Dr. Carr always say…” whiteness is a construct “.
More empirical proof: This ish was not/is not accidental.
History repeats itself if you don't learn from it.
Jacqueline Battalora is such a treasure due to her research on the early creation on racial divide during the Colonial Period.
I would also appreciate Jacqueline to do research on the life of Black women during the Colonial period.
The European bourgeois has consistently employed this method universally to get what they wanted
Thank you...if only we knew...keep school in session!!!
'The Invention of White People' by Theodore Allen goes into detail about this
🗣️ This makes it worse. 💔Knowing what is right and still doing wrong😑. What was going on in England to blacks during this period🤔?
Thank you for this critical conversation that is providing information that is empirically based. What an incredible show you have Karen Hunter!
More ppl need to get hip 2 this info…once I found it n 2018-19…I was over sharing it
White folks hail from the Caucasus mountains around 6- 10,000 years ago. There is no record of them before then. They actually wrote themselves into history.
And yet that same race is responsible for creating the modern world you are living in. So you can talk shit all you want but the 6000 year old whites have accomplished more than africas entire history
Just wanted to say thank you for this video, very informative.
Amen
I learn so much with every episode🔥
I’m from Virginia so I’m at least aware of Bacons Rebellion and how it influenced our current notions of race. Yet I’m still surprised that so few are even aware of its occurrence.
I read about Bacon's rebellion years ago.
Interesting dialogue on Bacon's Rebellion, which seemed be an uprising from members of the criminal enterprise (Nathaniel Bacon chief among them), including the shortsighted, landless indentured servants - who comprised both Whites and Africans - who in turn slaughtered the Indigenous people for their land. Part two of the rebellion seemed to be the metropole (Britain) putting a stop to these ravenous colonists - including the misled and ill-advised indentured servants. In sum, Bacon and others thought incorrectly about who was really in charge of the criminal enterprise.
I’m so disgusted with them entitled yt people who think they are so good, but at the end of the day they’re so bad that they’re always trying to destroy others land, and their culture
What culture?
Very enlighting, I greatly enjoyed this video. I have a better understanding the agenda divide and conquer based on the laws Dr. Jacqueline Battalora spoke of.
thank you.
Tht was excellent info...THANK U BOTH FOR THT......I felt tht...digested tht...fenna put tht n my backpack 🎒.....1 PEOPLE....1 MIND ...1 LOVE ❤️...1 NATION.....1..
yes!
Most of those people from England were actually people of colour and were mostly indentured servants and religious refugees until indentured became perpetual servitude, ( slavey) for life in many instances, especially because indentured contracts were equal to their lifespans 7-10 years. Many were prisoners of war, Jacobites from Scotland, German Palatines who here from Swarthy complexion people, from Germany and was a part of the Roman Empire. The went to England, as refugees and was sent to all English colonies. The Jacobites and all their families were invaded by Oliver Cromwell and the survivors were sold into slavery to all English Colonies. The Irish also, many were black people, There were no ships from Africa, they all went to Sao Tome, island, Azores, Canary island to transport Jewish refuges and Moorish people who where transported to those island and have farms these especially sugar. The other so called negros were native Americans, and black people fromWales, Ireland Scotland. Slavery was never about race, it was a religious war, in Europe. This religious wars between the Roman Catholic Empire vs, Sephardic Jews and Moors and many other people of colour that lived all over Europe and were either Roman Catholic, Sephardic Jews or Muslim. Those who migrated from Spain( Iberia) to France became Calvinist, tmany became the Huguenots, Puritans, New Christians, Quakers Port Jews, Walloons, and other group all hiding under these religious banners. Read Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America by Elizabeth Caldwell Hirschmann and Donal N Yates. 2012. Another source is Jacobite Gleanings from State Manuscripts: Short Sketches of Jacobites; the Transportations in 1745, J. Macbeth Forbes, January 1, 1903, PDF book link.
myfamilystwistedtree.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/jacobite-gleanings-from-state-manuscripts-short-sketches-of-jacobites-the-transportations-in-1745.pdf.
My sista Karen, our ANCESTORS that are the Original NATIVE AMERICANS Indigenous People, was here FIRST in America, they are called the FIRST Nation, that are from different INDIAN TRIBES. My Late Grandmother was a Brown Skin Tone Complexion CHEROKEE INDIAN.
So therefore, I have Ancestry DNA Bloodline connected to a Indian Tribe. That happens to be Native Americans.
I don't called myself Black or an African American.
My True ETHNICITY Identity Heritage is a NATIVE AMERICAN Indigenous People.
This is deep!.
And once Yakub’s 600-year “made man” entered the world, all of history took a devastating turn. Early signs of this were evident with the ancient Egyptians, who worried about a strange tribe of blue-eyed people they called Tamahu-“the created ones”-a clear allusion to their unnatural origins. The Tamahu had moved onto the edge of the desert and demonstrated a proclivity for trouble-making, foreshadowing a troubling modus operandi. The making of the white man.
B1 Thats whats Up!
The entire issue of race makes me sick to my stomach, and its not just race. I live in Australia, and I walk down the street and there are homeless people with cardboard signs telling their story how they ended up on the street. They can't get benefits unless they have bank accounts, and they can't get bank accounts with out an address, which is bollocks of course, they just don't want to pay them. Many have mental health problems, and our mental health sector is almost exclusively private, and the practitioners lack expertise and empathy. A study was done here back in 2014, and it found you were likely to end up worse after engaging mental health services.
Indigenous people are treated worse than cattle. They are pushed out of the cities and live in rural shantie towns where they are exploited by mining companies as cheap labor. But it gets worse. The government want to minimize the money allocated for essential services, and so instead of benefits paid in cash, they are allocated cards and the funds are put into the bank and they draw what they need from the fund. However there are only a few places where they have the hole in the wall machines where you can withdraw the funds, that forces them to move nearer the cash points, that just happen to be close to the mining zones.
This still happens because white people are full of shit in this country. They will walk by the homeless, the indigenous problem is out of site and out of mind. But they join protests for Julian Assange, not because his white, because they seen to be doing something, its about their ego's. Suicide help line is staffed by volunteers because the government are not fulfilling their social responsibility. What resources can suicide lifeline offer? Phone counselling. I rang once as an exercise, and after talking to a counsellor about what I could do about my circumstance, and the answer was nothing. So, the call ended, with the "so called" councillor accepting the fact that I was likely to suicide.
A report was released recently by two economic professors who did an investigation into how money and profits were generated in Australia and who benefitted. The studied found that 80% of profits were generated by back door deals with government, mining companies and real estate developers.......straight out theft. There are no shortage of funds, there are enough funds to provide free universal health care and education for all. Will the white majority do anything about his, as long as they are still doing OK?
But their time is up they know it and it's driving them crazy.🤔
Wow! Yes TV channels such as B E T and P B S. should use their medium to educate Black and white Americans about these hidden history that proves how significantly Black people contributed to the advancement of this nation
I was discussing Bacon’s Rebellion to a colleague the other day. The strategy borne out of its aftermath is why progressive movements are opposed by both major political parties to this day. Keeping the status quote: divide and conquer.
Thanks for that knowledge
I thought it was insightful on Karen's part to draw a paralel between Hamptons rainbow coalition, & Nataniel Bacon, & how the strategy of the opposition was to "divide & conquer"
🤔 can't wait to hear this
This was a great segment!
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Read your mind there Prof, "let me write this 1600 date down and ask Dr. Carr". Amazing how history parallels itself.
Was that Africans or copper colored American Indians?
This is great information.. this would be an incredible preface to American history courses (even in elementary school) that cover colonialism and slavery.. I can only imagine how much less awkward/destructive things are when you know the idea of “race” sham at the outset..
At the same time.. shouldn’t this be our prompt to give up classifying people as “black” or “white” right now? As in, even in this comment section? When I listen to this discussion, it reminds me more and more of substance abuse and addiction.. and the people subscribing to false superiority and false inferiority as addicts.. so maybe we should recognize that even though people’s addiction hurts us as their loved ones (and it’s important to recognize that we ALL do love each other at our core), we have to understand it as an addiction and approach it accordingly.. If this was an attempt at divide and conquer, then why still play into it?? It’s challenging to kick an addiction.. but I think we can all do it.. because whether people fall on the superiority or inferiority side of the coin, both erode the soul..
it’s interesting reading the suggestions on how to approach an addict.. and I see some tools that can be useful in this context (be clear and up front, give them space to respond, don’t ignore or enable the behavior, don’t blame them or yourself, etc. etc.)..
And one of the points was to educate yourself.. and this video is a great tool in that respect.. i never want to be soft on people.. I just want productivity towards an actual, defined GOAL.. demonizing people won’t get us there (see: crack epidemic).. neither will enabling.. but maybe getting at the root (as described in this video) can get get the job done or at least help on the road to recovery..
Thanks for the valuable information!!
Awesome
The 14th Ammendment is the Culprit!
#Reconstruction
Thank you Professor Hunter and guest for this excellent video. So much to learn here. Time to hit the history books.
One thing to note is this conversation does not address the class issue at hand. Landed (upper) class violated the contract with the unlanded (lower) group. The indentured servants did not receive the land that was due to them after the 7 to 15 years of work. They were told by the landowners that no land was available. Despite the fact the landowners had from 5,000 to 15,000 acres, they could not honor the contract of freedom, a mule and 75 acres. Their argument was indigenous people had what they should have. This is the beginning of hostility.
Hello Karen. Im an avid listener to your show, Im a Truck driver from Philly, So listening to your show gets me up and down the road, in the Afternoons. Has any ever suggested having Dr. Rudolph R. Windsor on your show,? He wrote the book "From Babylon to Timbuktu" "The History of the Dark Races".
thank you, Timothy. I will look into it.
@@KarenHunterShow . Your welcome.💯. Good deal.👍🏾.
Wow…Mammy gave them a pass and blamed the system they were born into and made a CONSCIOUS decision to Lynch , rape, torture terrorize…nice pass KAREN👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤦🏾♂️
I grabbed that book a few years ago. Very well written and easy to read.
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“Researching the prohibition of marriage”
Heavy handed governance back then
6:29 Listen Very Closely👂🏽👂🏼👂🏻👂🏾