As a Catholic, it made me feel really sad that the speaker felt the need to generalize and blame the racist and sexist opinions of the man on the fact that he was a Christian. He said that he had those opinions "because he was raised in a religion that doesn't emphasize oneness of mankind and equality of man and woman". So he isn't bad because he is simply a bad person, it's the reverse, he is a good person but Christianity makes him do bad things. Is this speaker sure that every single person who claims to be a Baha'i is great and flawless? And if not, does that mean that Baha'i religion is to blame when Baha'is fail as people? I must be honest here, and I hope that Baha'is will listen and reflect. Baha'is like to claim that they are universal and accept all people (I even see videos saying "You can be a Christian/Muslim/Buddhist and a Baha'i"), but the truth is that the Baha'i religion is like any religion, you have your own very specific set of beliefs, that are different from all other religions, and you think your beliefs are superior to other people's beliefs. There is no problem with that, that's how all religions are, but the problem is this false superiority of "we are the inclusive ones", that often leads Baha'is to treat other religions with such condescendence, such as this speaker just did. A Buddhist knows that me and him don't agree much on the spiritual side of things. And that's fine, we can live together in harmony despite our different beliefs. But a Buddhist will no try to teach me about Jesus, and I won't teach him about the Buddha. A Baha'i however, will try to say to Christians that they (many of whom spent their whole lives studying Jesus) don't really know what Jesus is about, and will call them ignorant or backwards for following their own Christian beliefs. Moreover, Baha'is will calmly and condescendingly plan for a world where all religions will cease to exists except for their own, and say that Christians will like this world because they'll still get to believe in Jesus Christ (tho it is the Baha'i version Christ, but that isn't important right?). That's why the Baha'i faith seems more and more disingenuous and scary to me (sorry to offend, but that's how I feel). The scariest part is that I feel like the followers can't even see the problem. And probably they don't see it because this sense of superiority also stops Baha'is from getting into real discussions with other religions. They don't take other religions seriously enough for doing that as they don't recognize the importance of their theological divergences as a legitimate issue. But this is easy for them to say, since in this universal religion everyone would have to give up parts of their own beliefs except for Baha'is. If Baha'is got into real and honest discussions with other religions, they would realize that saying Christianity makes people be against equality of genders is quite hypocritical. Baha'is claim they are about equality, but their religion allows men to marry two women but not the reverse, women are not allowed in the UHJ so they can't lead the religion, it claims that ideally men have to pay dowry to the wife's father, also the women have inferior inheritance rights. For many christians, all of those things are quite sexist, but you don't see christians claiming that Baha'is are sexist or backwards. Yet Baha'is are the one's about unity. I hope this cause some people to reflect. Because otherwise this unity that Baha'is preach will very easily become "uniformity", no matter how many pretty words you use to hide it. Mao Zedong also liked using the world "unity" a lot, but in his case it was just a way to force people to adhere to his worldview. Baha'is will only be able to avoid the same destiny if they start really respecting other religions, and being more honest about their own.
Outstanding. Thank you
Tiny Souls really peaked my heart! So very important to have this idea done well with long legs for our little ones❤
Great. Missed it that day! Can hear the fireside now.
Thank you for this beautiful conversation❤
Thanks for sharing 🎉
Absolutely a great conversation
Great presentation will share with my friends
Eu amo a Fé Baha'i ! Eu amo Bahá'u'lláh ! Aqui de Minas Gerais- Brasil
Excelente, nuevas perspectivas muy valiosas. Muchas Gracias, Saludos desde Ecuador. Me lo repetiré para generar conversaciones
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If all people believe unity and one God , we do not have any discrimination or war worldwide
Love to be a Baha'i ❤ Allah u llah friends ❤️🤓
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March 20, 2024
Allah’u’abha from Vancouver Canada
As a Catholic, it made me feel really sad that the speaker felt the need to generalize and blame the racist and sexist opinions of the man on the fact that he was a Christian. He said that he had those opinions "because he was raised in a religion that doesn't emphasize oneness of mankind and equality of man and woman". So he isn't bad because he is simply a bad person, it's the reverse, he is a good person but Christianity makes him do bad things. Is this speaker sure that every single person who claims to be a Baha'i is great and flawless? And if not, does that mean that Baha'i religion is to blame when Baha'is fail as people?
I must be honest here, and I hope that Baha'is will listen and reflect. Baha'is like to claim that they are universal and accept all people (I even see videos saying "You can be a Christian/Muslim/Buddhist and a Baha'i"), but the truth is that the Baha'i religion is like any religion, you have your own very specific set of beliefs, that are different from all other religions, and you think your beliefs are superior to other people's beliefs. There is no problem with that, that's how all religions are, but the problem is this false superiority of "we are the inclusive ones", that often leads Baha'is to treat other religions with such condescendence, such as this speaker just did.
A Buddhist knows that me and him don't agree much on the spiritual side of things. And that's fine, we can live together in harmony despite our different beliefs. But a Buddhist will no try to teach me about Jesus, and I won't teach him about the Buddha. A Baha'i however, will try to say to Christians that they (many of whom spent their whole lives studying Jesus) don't really know what Jesus is about, and will call them ignorant or backwards for following their own Christian beliefs. Moreover, Baha'is will calmly and condescendingly plan for a world where all religions will cease to exists except for their own, and say that Christians will like this world because they'll still get to believe in Jesus Christ (tho it is the Baha'i version Christ, but that isn't important right?).
That's why the Baha'i faith seems more and more disingenuous and scary to me (sorry to offend, but that's how I feel). The scariest part is that I feel like the followers can't even see the problem. And probably they don't see it because this sense of superiority also stops Baha'is from getting into real discussions with other religions. They don't take other religions seriously enough for doing that as they don't recognize the importance of their theological divergences as a legitimate issue. But this is easy for them to say, since in this universal religion everyone would have to give up parts of their own beliefs except for Baha'is.
If Baha'is got into real and honest discussions with other religions, they would realize that saying Christianity makes people be against equality of genders is quite hypocritical. Baha'is claim they are about equality, but their religion allows men to marry two women but not the reverse, women are not allowed in the UHJ so they can't lead the religion, it claims that ideally men have to pay dowry to the wife's father, also the women have inferior inheritance rights. For many christians, all of those things are quite sexist, but you don't see christians claiming that Baha'is are sexist or backwards. Yet Baha'is are the one's about unity.
I hope this cause some people to reflect. Because otherwise this unity that Baha'is preach will very easily become "uniformity", no matter how many pretty words you use to hide it. Mao Zedong also liked using the world "unity" a lot, but in his case it was just a way to force people to adhere to his worldview. Baha'is will only be able to avoid the same destiny if they start really respecting other religions, and being more honest about their own.
NOW , HOW IS IT , THAT UOU PROVE FROM THE BIBLE , THAT BAHA'U'LLAH IS THE 2ND MESSIAH ? HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT JESUS , WAS THE 1ST MESSIAH ? PLEASE ?
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