Ron, - Perfecto Demonstration! You explained every shot, how and why ... AND kept it simple. No over/under-runs, no greed; playing exactly as you seen it. YOUR game! A successful break and run ... no way to argue against it!!! And oh so right on the 9 ... assertiveness pays off. Could it be played differently? Absolutely! The plan and result tells the story!!! : ) Love it!!! Be Safe
Thanks Ron, for this video. Will be really helpful for my game. And love the arrow graphics on the screen, makes it more easier to understand next shot position. Thanks for your great work.
Awesome video Ron, I have watched every one of your videos and have enjoyed this one the most. I start with a few drills but after about 30 minutes all I play is variations of rotation. All your videos are great, this one really nailed it for me, with you including the break and explanation. Thanks for all you do.
I watched this twice this afternoon and when my buddy came over to play 8-ball I used your break. 2 out of 3 breaks put the head ball in the side pocket with no practice! I actually called it before the break and amazed my buddy!! Ron, your advice is solid! Thanks.
On your 5 ball it would be easier to go forward a bit to cut the 7 in with natural cue for the 8. You can figure out the 9 from there. Thanks for the video!
Hi @Ron, regarding the run, the key transition was from the 5 ball to the 7 ball. Thus, the position from the 4 ball to the 5 ball was important. I think a safer option might've been to extend the line you hit from the 4 ball to the 5 bal using two rails (side rail to side rail). That way you would be passing the line of the 5 ball to play the 5 on the right side pocket so you could follow down table for the 7 ball.
Thanks for watching and for your input Nao Nao but I disagree on side rail to side rail off the four ball as it’s too risky due to speed control. Personally, I like to minimize cue ball travel when at all possible so I chose in this case to hit the simpler, flowing into the shot-line shot knowing I could draw back to the seven off the five. Easy Peezy, with bottom short cushion as a back stop incase of over draw. This said, every player must play within their own strengths. Thanks again and keep on practicing 👍🏻😊❤️🎱
@ronthepoolstudent I understand. However, using more rails WILL help your speed control in most cases. Specialty when floating into the shot line. Most pros prefer to use more rails when they have the option rather than floating into a position. Also, more often than not, pros prefer rolling into the next position rather than drawing the cue ball into it. Additionally, if you notice your position window with the draw shot you picked-up is smaller than the position window for the side pocket. Lastly, I'd like to point out that by playing the side pocket, in this scenario, you can pick a precise point on both side rails rather than one single point on the cloth (harder to visualize) and once you are on the 5 Ball you will have a frontal view on the direction you want to go for the 7 ball rather than a blind shot using a draw shot.
@naonao76 If I can see it, I can make it and gain position 😉🤪 All kidding aside Nao Nao, I always look to play follow position when I can. Even Efren says he does the same as the draw shot is less precise. Lastly and with respect, you must not have been watching my evolution as a player as I stress and demonstrate using the cushions to flow into shot lines as speed control is more forgiving. This said; I also play simple position however, when the opportunity presents itself. Thanks again 👍🏻😊
@@ronthepoolstudent Ron, with all due respect, it is because I HAVE been following your evolution as a player since the beginning and seen you discussed all these great concepts, that I am pointing out the way you made that key transition and why it doesn't align to what you have preached during your evolution. Also, with respect, we should always strive for consistency, so playing a lower percentage position because of the simple fact that "you can" is not the mentality, nor the consistency of someone who wants to achieve a higher level. I'm not saying that's you, I'm saying we all fall under those mental mistakes from time to time, but we have to be very diligent and recognize them and work on them. Hope you can see where I'm coming from. I'm just trying to help.
Thank you Tiarnaigh. Keep in mind, when learning this break shot, I executed it 400-500 times. Because of this, I developed muscle memory which helps me today. This said, practice it first with a template rack, then advance to a standard plastic or wooden rack. Btw, make sure at least the first three balls are making contact when using the standard racks.
Yea, ideally the cue ball should run along the object ball shot line. I try to look for these shots more often, but it's not always easy in my experience. Sometimes position crossing the line is the best option or the easier shot. Often made easier if the cue ball can hit a rail and stay near the shot position. I have gotten into the habit of congratulating players, "good shot" when I see them purposefully get position along the shot line. It's a textbook shot. :)
@@RoobieRhoo Once we have the speed of the table down, crossing the line becomes a bit easier. Super fast, worn 760 cloth, puts a premium on flowing into/along the shot-line. Thanks Norman 👍🏻
Great stuff as always Ron! Very logical and simple choices which is awesome! The “break tip” you shared was great! Do you have a tip for 8 ball break? Thanks, Ian
@@iantiffin5854 Thank you Ian, I’m glad this helped. Also thanks for reminding me as I actually have an eight ball break shot tip, I need to make a video about so please stay tuned. For now, place your cue ball one ball width off side rail and two ball widths behind kitchen line. From there, use a draw stroke and hit square into the second ball in the rack making sure NOT to clip the lead ball on the way in. You’ll need to play with your speed but I find a “controlled”, 60-70% stroke speed works best. This eight ball break shot works very well on, 7 & 8 foot tables. Give it a try! 👍🏻😊
@ Will give this a try Ron, thanks! I used to use a second ball break but have reverted back to the straight on head ball break. In one of the other comments you mention the “4 ball Russian Pyramid drill… I looked quick but couldn’t find your video for that, when you get a chance, would you mind sharing the link for that one? Thanks again! Ian
Great video! It took me way too long to learn to even use the rail to get position. It was like I treated hitting the rail as just a byproduct of where the ball had to go. Not using it to an advantage.
@@Chi_Town21That’s the beauty of the game Jeff. Now if we could get golf course architects to install side walls down the fairways…we Pool players could go out on the pro tour 😉
You cant always assume the table is 100 percent level. You can slow roll it and then it drifts off because of the table. I have experienced this ,especially if you play all over in matches.
@@ClocktowerDreamhouse Thank you for your question CD. When shooting with authority, the shot holds its line better. And If there is a cut angle, cut induced throw is minimized when speed is amped up. Additionally, if I intend to shoot more softly and I have a cut angle, I will add a bit of outside spin to help negate cut induced throw. By doing this, the object ball will track with pure roll towards the pocket. Btw, I have slow-motion video showing this in my video library so please feel free to check it out, Thank you again 👍🏻❤️🎱
@@ronthepoolstudent Absolutely, reduces effects of throw. Other reasons: slow-rolling risks OB roll-off on iffy tables; slow-rolling can often incur a poke- or jab-stroke; slow-rolling can often incur premature deceleration of the cue. All of these can cause a miss even on a straight-in shot.
@@ColinGailey Thank you Colin, lots and lots of experimentation by setting up an identical shot (with paper reinforcements) and shooting it over and over until you learn the angles. Another fantastic method to learning cue ball travel/the angles, is to shoot my four ball “Russian Pyramid” exercise.
@ Here is a personalized response to your question Colin, I just made this quick video for Ian as he asked that very same question. See link below: ruclips.net/video/FGSdiH-kh7o/видео.htmlsi=gwEU_YUQwDbTtAlW
After this video I better run out more now. Ha. If anyone would’ve hit that 7 and left themselves the same on the 8 on a 9’er they would’ve had to use the rake. Players need to be aware of stuff like that and also things like if they are right or left handed and what’s easier/harder to get to on the “leaves” they leave themselves. Cheers
@@tomburns890 This is why I say players should learn to shoot opposite handed Tom. I have trained myself to shoot very well from both sides as at first, I sucked at using a mechanical bridge. (see link below) Today, the old fashioned bridge/ “rake”, I find is no longer needed. When I shoot on a nine or ten footer and there is an impossible shot to reach for instance, I use my Bridge-mate because it’s simpler and is very very accurate. Thanks for weighing in 👍🏻 See link below: Shooting right & left handed ruclips.net/video/7Uzxj6qUVBM/видео.html
@ that’s funny how out of date and old school I am after leaving the game for 30 years then coming back. I still refer to the rake & use the rake and things have changed quite a bit with extensions & bridge mate etc. they young guys don’t even know what a rake is kinda like they don’t know what an old rotary phone was. Lol. A few months ago I finally installed a phenolic tip on my break jump cue from an old LaPro tip lol. Now guys have both a separate jump and a separate break cue. Man does it make jumping so much easier and back in the day I was a good jumper too. Cheers
@@Otingocni 🥲🥲🥲 I’ve been using this break shot even with a wood rack with awesome results Dan, but I make sure I see no gaps with my first three balls.
@@ronthepoolstudent Thanks Ron. That knowledge will help me when I practice your drills, particularly when I do not have similar results with the illustrated cue ball contact. I know everyone’s stroke is different so I will need to put in the work to find out what works best for me. My home table is an 8 ft Olhausen (with relatively new cloth) but I play on 8 ft and 9 ft during league play.
@@patrickgourley5808 What makes the game difficult Patrick is that degrees of stun will effect what one player experiences to another. Stun changes the tangent angle so tip position can appear to be misleading when playing position.
@ Stun exercises are a must Patrick. Once I learned stun, a whole new level of position play opened up for my game. Here are three videos I made from one and two plus years ago that will help you understand what I’m talking about. Please see links below: Cue ball physics 101 ruclips.net/video/RXXT_2b6bNY/видео.html Accurate stun control ruclips.net/video/7cl4Ue71P7U/видео.html How much english is enough ruclips.net/video/1Yuww_YsxrA/видео.html Please reach out with any questions 👍🏻😊❤️🎱
Great video until the "you have to shoot those with authority; you can't baby those in". Absolutely not true. You can just as easily pocket that shot simply playing pocket speed.
@@capone079 yes you can Capone. You’ll also hold the line and negate cut induced throw when shooting with authority, especially when there is a cut angle. Always play to your strengths once you understand the physics behind shots 👍🏻😊 Thanks!
Yes, you certainly can. I wouldn't. Much more can go wrong if you play that shot soft. You also don't wanna hammer it in, but use your feel-good stroke. I can't imagine any pro rolling this ball.
@@christofferfederstedt7759 Thanks Christoffer and btw, a 700+ player taught me to shoot the last shot with authority early on. I didn’t know why back then but I do now. 👍🏻👍🏻❤️🎱👍🏻👍🏻
Ron, - Perfecto Demonstration! You explained every shot, how and why ... AND kept it simple. No over/under-runs, no greed; playing exactly as you seen it. YOUR game! A successful break and run ... no way to argue against it!!! And oh so right on the 9 ... assertiveness pays off. Could it be played differently? Absolutely! The plan and result tells the story!!! : ) Love it!!! Be Safe
@@rodconner9079 Well thank you Rod, I really appreciate you giving your feedback, BE SAFE! 👍🏻😊
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Thanks Ron, for this video. Will be really helpful for my game. And love the arrow graphics on the screen, makes it more easier to understand next shot position. Thanks for your great work.
@@onsam Thank you Onsam, please reach out with any questions you may have 👍🏻😊
Awesome video Ron, I have watched every one of your videos and have enjoyed this one the most. I start with a few drills but after about 30 minutes all I play is variations of rotation. All your videos are great, this one really nailed it for me, with you including the break and explanation. Thanks for all you do.
@@Dan-ko2vv Thank you very much Dan, I really appreciate you bud 👍🏻😊
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I watched this twice this afternoon and when my buddy came over to play 8-ball I used your break. 2 out of 3 breaks put the head ball in the side pocket with no practice! I actually called it before the break and amazed my buddy!! Ron, your advice is solid! Thanks.
@@smithvalleyjim Thank you James, I would never steer you wrong 😊
Keep up the strong play and let’s keep getting better together
man 👍🏻
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I need to add that my setup for the break was slightly to the left of where Ron set up.
@@smithvalleyjim 👍🏻😊
@@smithvalleyjim 👍🏻😊
On your 5 ball it would be easier to go forward a bit to cut the 7 in with natural cue for the 8. You can figure out the 9 from there. Thanks for the video!
@@TheKcnoman111 Thank you 👍🏻
Hi @Ron, regarding the run, the key transition was from the 5 ball to the 7 ball. Thus, the position from the 4 ball to the 5 ball was important. I think a safer option might've been to extend the line you hit from the 4 ball to the 5 bal using two rails (side rail to side rail). That way you would be passing the line of the 5 ball to play the 5 on the right side pocket so you could follow down table for the 7 ball.
Thanks for watching and for your input Nao Nao but I disagree on side rail to side rail off the four ball as it’s too risky due to speed control.
Personally, I like to minimize cue ball travel when at all possible so I chose in this case to hit the simpler, flowing into the shot-line shot knowing I could draw back to the seven off the five.
Easy Peezy, with bottom short cushion as a back stop incase of over draw.
This said, every player must play within their own strengths.
Thanks again and keep on practicing 👍🏻😊❤️🎱
@ronthepoolstudent I understand. However, using more rails WILL help your speed control in most cases. Specialty when floating into the shot line. Most pros prefer to use more rails when they have the option rather than floating into a position. Also, more often than not, pros prefer rolling into the next position rather than drawing the cue ball into it. Additionally, if you notice your position window with the draw shot you picked-up is smaller than the position window for the side pocket. Lastly, I'd like to point out that by playing the side pocket, in this scenario, you can pick a precise point on both side rails rather than one single point on the cloth (harder to visualize) and once you are on the 5 Ball you will have a frontal view on the direction you want to go for the 7 ball rather than a blind shot using a draw shot.
@naonao76 If I can see it, I can make it and gain position 😉🤪
All kidding aside Nao Nao, I always look to play follow position when I can. Even Efren says he does the same as the draw shot is less precise.
Lastly and with respect, you must not have been watching my evolution as a player as I stress and demonstrate using the cushions to flow into shot lines as speed control is more forgiving.
This said; I also play simple position however, when the opportunity presents itself.
Thanks again 👍🏻😊
@@ronthepoolstudent Ron, with all due respect, it is because I HAVE been following your evolution as a player since the beginning and seen you discussed all these great concepts, that I am pointing out the way you made that key transition and why it doesn't align to what you have preached during your evolution. Also, with respect, we should always strive for consistency, so playing a lower percentage position because of the simple fact that "you can" is not the mentality, nor the consistency of someone who wants to achieve a higher level. I'm not saying that's you, I'm saying we all fall under those mental mistakes from time to time, but we have to be very diligent and recognize them and work on them. Hope you can see where I'm coming from. I'm just trying to help.
@ Thanks and for you, I won’t make that “mistake” again! 😉😊👍🏻
Nice vid again Ron. I wish I could get as consistent as you on the break here
Thank you Tiarnaigh. Keep in mind, when learning this break shot, I executed it 400-500 times. Because of this, I developed muscle memory which helps me today. This said, practice it first with a template rack, then advance to a standard plastic or wooden rack.
Btw, make sure at least the first three balls are making contact when using the standard racks.
Yea, ideally the cue ball should run along the object ball shot line. I try to look for these shots more often, but it's not always easy in my experience. Sometimes position crossing the line is the best option or the easier shot. Often made easier if the cue ball can hit a rail and stay near the shot position. I have gotten into the habit of congratulating players, "good shot" when I see them purposefully get position along the shot line. It's a textbook shot. :)
@@RoobieRhoo Once we have the speed of the table down, crossing the line becomes a bit easier. Super fast, worn 760 cloth, puts a premium on flowing into/along the shot-line.
Thanks Norman 👍🏻
@@ronthepoolstudent Thank you, Ron. :)
@ 👍🏻😊
Like the video Ron, good information on the break shot,Thanks.
@@shelbywaddell5759 Thank you Shelby and you’re welcome.
Top stuff again Ron!😊
@@ianwatkins6202
Thank you Ian 👍🏻😊
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Great stuff as always Ron! Very logical and simple choices which is awesome! The “break tip” you shared was great! Do you have a tip for 8 ball break? Thanks, Ian
@@iantiffin5854 Thank you Ian, I’m glad this helped. Also thanks for reminding me as I actually have an eight ball break shot tip, I need to make a video about so please stay tuned.
For now, place your cue ball one ball width off side rail and two ball widths behind kitchen line. From there, use a draw stroke and hit square into the second ball in the rack making sure NOT to clip the lead ball on the way in.
You’ll need to play with your speed but I find a “controlled”, 60-70% stroke speed works best.
This eight ball break shot works very well on, 7 & 8 foot tables.
Give it a try! 👍🏻😊
@ Will give this a try Ron, thanks! I used to use a second ball break but have reverted back to the straight on head ball break. In one of the other comments you mention the “4 ball Russian Pyramid drill… I looked quick but couldn’t find your video for that, when you get a chance, would you mind sharing the link for that one? Thanks again! Ian
@@iantiffin5854 Here you go Ian, see link below:
ruclips.net/video/FGSdiH-kh7o/видео.htmlsi=gwEU_YUQwDbTtAlW
See my reply above. It works for 8-ball, too. Just set up slightly to the left of where Ron set up.
@@smithvalleyjim Thank you James 👍🏻
Great video! It took me way too long to learn to even use the rail to get position. It was like I treated hitting the rail as just a byproduct of where the ball had to go. Not using it to an advantage.
@@Chi_Town21That’s the beauty of the game Jeff.
Now if we could get golf course architects to install side walls down the fairways…we Pool players could go out on the pro tour 😉
@ronthepoolstudent so true 🤣🤣
@@Chi_Town21 👍🏻😊
@@ronthepoolstudentI received the stickers and magnets! Thanks again
@ You’re welcome Jeff. 😴👍🏻
Thanks bud I appreciate it.
You cant always assume the table is 100 percent level. You can slow roll it and then it drifts off because of the table. I have experienced this ,especially if you play all over in matches.
@@shb9641 Spot on Sh B, you’re 100% correct 👍🏻
Thank you for weighing in 😊
Good information, Ron what size and weight pool cue recommend .Thanks Anthony
@@anthonygraham3729 Thank you Anthony, I shoot with an 18 ounce 58” cue. I’m 5’9”.
@ronthepoolstudent Thank you
@@anthonygraham3729 you’re welcome bud 👍🏻
Great video! Quick question: Why do you want to shoot that 9 ball with authority as opposed to softer?
@@ClocktowerDreamhouse Thank you for your question CD. When shooting with authority, the shot holds its line better. And If there is a cut angle, cut induced throw is minimized when speed is amped up.
Additionally, if I intend to shoot more softly and I have a cut angle, I will add a bit of outside spin to help negate cut induced throw. By doing this, the object ball will track with pure roll towards the pocket.
Btw, I have slow-motion video showing this in my video library so please feel free to check it out,
Thank you again 👍🏻❤️🎱
@@ronthepoolstudent Absolutely, reduces effects of throw. Other reasons: slow-rolling risks OB roll-off on iffy tables; slow-rolling can often incur a poke- or jab-stroke; slow-rolling can often incur premature deceleration of the cue. All of these can cause a miss even on a straight-in shot.
@@dougquara6302 Thank you and very well said Doug, all of the above 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I think the better way to say it is : ALONG the shot line. That way it is either direction.
@@thomasroes6146 I like it, thanks Thomas 👍🏻😊
Have you been watching Tor Loury zerox vids Ron?
@@fjohnson9749 I started learning the game four years ago and am a subscriber to Tor’s channel FJ, yes 👍🏻
Love the concept but how does one learn these angles?
@@ColinGailey Thank you Colin, lots and lots of experimentation by setting up an identical shot (with paper reinforcements) and shooting it over and over until you learn the angles.
Another fantastic method to learning cue ball travel/the angles, is to shoot my four ball “Russian Pyramid” exercise.
@@ronthepoolstudent Makes sense. I couldn’t find your 4 ball Russian Pyramid video, what’s the video titled? Thanks!
@ Here is a personalized response to your question Colin, I just made this quick video for Ian as he asked that very same question. See link below:
ruclips.net/video/FGSdiH-kh7o/видео.htmlsi=gwEU_YUQwDbTtAlW
Cool looks good
@@christopherbernstein2046
👍🏻😊👍🏻 Christopher
After this video I better run out more now. Ha. If anyone would’ve hit that 7 and left themselves the same on the 8 on a 9’er they would’ve had to use the rake. Players need to be aware of stuff like that and also things like if they are right or left handed and what’s easier/harder to get to on the “leaves” they leave themselves. Cheers
@@tomburns890 This is why I say players should learn to shoot opposite handed Tom.
I have trained myself to shoot very well from both sides as at first, I sucked at using a mechanical bridge.
(see link below)
Today, the old fashioned bridge/ “rake”, I find is no longer needed.
When I shoot on a nine or ten footer and there is an impossible shot to reach for instance, I use my Bridge-mate because it’s simpler and is very very accurate.
Thanks for weighing in 👍🏻
See link below:
Shooting right & left handed
ruclips.net/video/7Uzxj6qUVBM/видео.html
@ that’s funny how out of date and old school I am after leaving the game for 30 years then coming back. I still refer to the rake & use the rake and things have changed quite a bit with extensions & bridge mate etc. they young guys don’t even know what a rake is kinda like they don’t know what an old rotary phone was. Lol. A few months ago I finally installed a phenolic tip on my break jump cue from an old LaPro tip lol. Now guys have both a separate jump and a separate break cue. Man does it make jumping so much easier and back in the day I was a good jumper too. Cheers
@ Being 69 years young 😉
I don’t know any better 🤷🏻♂️😊
I don't have much luck with that break without a magic rack. Unfortunately the only organized pool i get to play is TAP and its not allowed.
@@Otingocni 🥲🥲🥲
I’ve been using this break shot even with a wood rack with awesome results Dan, but I make sure I see no gaps with my first three balls.
What is your tip diameter/size?
I shoot with a Predator Z3, 11.8, conical taper shaft TP.
Ron: The video states the break shot also works great on a 7 ft table. Is your table 9 ft, 8ft, or pro-8?
Mine is an 8’ Olhausen but I also shoot on a nine and ten footer too Patrick.
@@ronthepoolstudent Thanks Ron. That knowledge will help me when I practice your drills, particularly when I do not have similar results with the illustrated cue ball contact. I know everyone’s stroke is different so I will need to put in the work to find out what works best for me. My home table is an 8 ft Olhausen (with relatively new cloth) but I play on 8 ft and 9 ft during league play.
@@patrickgourley5808 What makes the game difficult Patrick is that degrees of stun will effect what one player experiences to another. Stun changes the tangent angle so tip position can appear to be misleading when playing position.
@@ronthepoolstudent Yep. I've got a lot to learn and practice but that is what makes it fun!
@ Stun exercises are a must Patrick. Once I learned stun, a whole new level of position play opened up for my game.
Here are three videos I made from one and two plus years ago that will help you understand what I’m talking about. Please see links below:
Cue ball physics 101
ruclips.net/video/RXXT_2b6bNY/видео.html
Accurate stun control
ruclips.net/video/7cl4Ue71P7U/видео.html
How much english is enough
ruclips.net/video/1Yuww_YsxrA/видео.html
Please reach out with any questions 👍🏻😊❤️🎱
Great video until the "you have to shoot those with authority; you can't baby those in". Absolutely not true. You can just as easily pocket that shot simply playing pocket speed.
@@capone079 yes you can Capone. You’ll also hold the line and negate cut induced throw when shooting with authority, especially when there is a cut angle.
Always play to your strengths once you understand the physics behind shots 👍🏻😊
Thanks!
Yes, you certainly can. I wouldn't. Much more can go wrong if you play that shot soft. You also don't wanna hammer it in, but use your feel-good stroke. I can't imagine any pro rolling this ball.
@@Erich_U Correct Erich 👍🏻
Nah, every pro I’ve seen shoot the last ball with authority. Almost never seen a pro slow roll the last ball.
Great video Ron!
Keep it up 👍
@@christofferfederstedt7759 Thanks Christoffer and btw, a 700+ player taught me to shoot the last shot with authority early on. I didn’t know why back then but I do now.
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