Steg Pegz review: God's gift for reducing upper body fatigue?︱Cross Training Adventure
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- crosstrainingen... Steg Pegz are incredible for reducing upper body fatigue when it comes to cramps, carpal tunnel, tendonitis, arm pump and general aches and pains! But they aren't necessarily for everyone. This Steg Pegz review is specifically for dual sport and adventure riders. Welcome to Cross Training Adventure, we are into all things dual sport and adventure on the east coast of Australia. Okay, our Steg Pegz long term review! These are rubber pucks that are designed to take the strain off your upper body when standing on the footpegs. You adjust them until your boots are resting against the rubber pucks. The result? Much less arm pump, upper body fatigue and upper body cramps. They can reduce leg fatigue as well as you don't need to grip the motorbike as much with your lower legs. Check out our reviews of various adventure bikes and dual sport bikes. They have become increasingly popular with off-road riders, especially desert racers. Toby Price uses them in the races like the Finke Desert Race. So does Ben Grabham and a pile of other racers. A lot of enduro riders use them, especially for unfit or older riders who get a lot of upper body fatigue. If you are a dual-sport or adventure rider, Steg Pegz are designed to work with your standard boot. If you use short boots then the rubber pucks will press into your skin. Not very comfortable! Also if you use over-the-boot pants, the rubber pucks could eventually wear through the fabric if you have cheap textile pants. I have Klim pants and no problems with wear after thousands of kilometres. Keen on adventure riding in Australia? Check out our vids. What are the benefits of Steg Pegz? I fall into the latter category. In my 60s I increasingly have problems with pre-arthritic fingers and carpal tunnel syndrome. These disappear once I use Steg Pegz. I use them on my enduro and adventure motorbikes. If you are thinking of using Steg Pegz on an enduro motorbike, see our enduro version of this vid. I want to focus on dual-sport and adventure riders because Steg Pegz are now available in these categories as well. In 2024 they are available for the following motorbikes. If you like dual sport riding in Australia then you might like our adventure riding vids.As already mentioned, there is much less pressure on your upper body. Your leg muscles are much stronger. If you lightly grip the motorbike with your knees you will anchor your legs against those rubber pucks. They can help with correct body positioning. The ideal default body position is a slight crouch with your body weight to the rear. In fact you can see riders in this video using poor body positioning. They are standing up straight with locked legs and leaning forward. You can stay standing on the footpegs longer. We all know that feeling toward the end of a tough ride when you sit on the seat to conserve energy when you know you should be standing! Steg Pegz will keep you on your feet for longer and in better control in rough terrain. You really notice the difference on long rough uphill tracks. There is a tendency to lean forward when you should keep your body weight over the rear wheel for traction. This kind of judgmental attitude really pisses me off. I know army veterans with upper body issues due to the sacrifices they have made. Try telling them they should stop riding. There's no way I'm going to stop riding despite arthritis and carpal tunnel syndrome. I welcome anything that lets me enjoy my passion for longer. Steg Pegz keep you in the correct body position without the strain of pulling constantly on the handlebars. A common criticism is that Steg Pegz prevent you from moving back on steep descents. This is quite rare for most dual-sport riders. You simply stop gripping the motorbike with your legs. Then your legs should just slide past the rubber pucks. Steg Pegz come with two rubber pucks on each side. If you have trouble moving your legs toward the rear, just put one rubber puck on each side. Another criticism? Some riders say these are just a 'crutch' and aren't needed if you lose weight and get fit. To some extent I agree with this. The ideal is always to get fit and avoid 'crutches' if possible. But we all make different lifestyle choices. If you don't have the time or inclination to get fit, I see no problem with using Steg Pegz to reduce fatigue. Also this criticism often comes from much younger riders who don't have arthritis, tendonitis and all sorts of health issues that start to emerge in your 50s and 60s. Occasionally I hear riders say if you need 'crutches' like Steg Pegz or a lighter clutch then you shouldn't be riding at all.
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Outside of Australia? They can be ordered from stegzmoto.com.au I'm not aware of any distributors carrying Steg Pegz in other countries. Thinking of Steg Pegz for enduro riding? See our enduro version instead. ruclips.net/video/zVJw7-DRbPQ/видео.html
In the US, we can get these either directly from them or through Rocky Mountain ATV/MC.
Great point about ageism and younger riders pounding their chest about some riders needing leg support. Someday they'll be in their 50's, 60's or 70's and attempting to ride. Their perspective on life will change and they'll get over their hubris of youth quick, that is, if they can still ride.
The folly of youth, Marty. I cringe when I think of some of the dumb shit I said in my 20s lol.
@@crosstrainingadventure Same here. Even though I had a L-1 SCI at 21 I still consider myself lucky even thought I've needed a wheelchair for the last 49 years. The one sport I am so glad did not exist when I was a teen is the Mountain Bike Downhill events. That would have killed me for sure. Thanks for your continued interesting and informative videos.
@@crosstrainingadventure Youth is wasted on the young.
Might have to try these! Getting old sucks!
I'll check these out. I'm 50 and overweight. I drive a fuel tanker about 70 hours a week, and also an Army Vet. So I have issues with keeping the weight off. I love riding and won't be stopping because some 20 year old soy boy who screams at old ladies thinks I should stop.
Totally agreee, Wyatt. I bet you those 20 year olds will be way more obese than us when they get to the same age lol.
Also in my 70s now so I appreciate your idea of doing what ever it takes to keep on riding! I really appreciate all your experience and advice. It's amazing what you can learn with an open mind! Keep em coming mate!
Will do, Terry. Bugger the young kids saying we should stop riding once we start looking at 'crutches' like this lol.
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Great vid! I haven't written in quite awhile - I'm the guy in Colorado who owns a Husaberg FE390, a Kawi Verses X300, and a Vstrom 650 XT). As to Steg Pegz: I have them because of an older video you made. I'm now 75 (6'3: and 215 lbs) and have completed most of the TransAmerica Trail on the FE390. I made DIY Step Peg type pucks out of 1/8 inch 7075 T6 aluminum and silicone rubber skate board wheels. The wheels/pucks are about 1.5 inch wide and I designed them to be right where I want them to hit my boots (Garene Balance Oiled). I've had back surgery, cortisone shots in both knees and one shoulder and I'm basically spent (hence the moniker GeezerWheels). I have you to thank for educating me about Steg Pegs, even though mine are DIY copies - $30 US for skate board and $8 for 1 sq ft of aluminum - then most of a Saturday fabricating and fitting. For those reading - I HIGHLY recommend Steg Pegs for anyone, young or old. Reduced fatigue is (1) more enjoyable (2) a safety measure when I ride mountain passes with high cliffs and narrow Jeep trails of Colorado and Utah. And a free tip: if you ride a 70 degree Husaberg - BUY GRIP PUPPIES! First trip my hands were literally numb for 3 day! With the grip puppies - no problem! Thanks again Barry for your great Vids!!!
Great to hear you are still at it! Out of interest, did you try bolting the wheels to the holes in the frame. The 70 degree Bergs had well positioned bolts where you can just bolt on some doorstops or skateboard wheels with some longer bolts...
@@crosstrainingadventure Nope... didn't know that. That would have been easier! Thanks for your quick response! - GeezerWheels.
www.thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/966618-my-own-stegleg-pegs/
At 54 and still riding singletrack I absolutely love my StegPegs. They aren't cheap that is true but they really do help once you become accustomed to them. That being said I also have buddies that hate them, like anything else it's an individual taste thing.
Riders either love them or hate them, hey? A pity there's not try before you buy...
I'm relatively fit, I'm looking at these to hopefully improve my technique by gripping the bike more with the legs and keeping a looser upper body.
Using crutches will not improve your technique... Only you can do it.
I love Steg Pegz! I only use them on my 450L especially after upgrading ECU, etc as the power increase and delivery was pretty dramatic. They just help me stay in a more correct position and ride longer. I have the 300L which I don't need them for as it's not that powerful.
You nailed it on this one.... I'm in my 70s now.
Like you said, takes all the strain off the arms on those long up hills, helps to relax and stay in the sweet spot on the bike over boney ground.....
Been using them for 10 years on V Strom 650s...
On a V-strom... sweet!
seat concept comfort xl does a similar job with the way the seat is shaped.
I'm in my late forties with a chronic illness affecting joints and muscles causing alot of fatigue.
I think it's about time I tried Stegz, I pay dearly for days after each ride.
They will definitely make a huge difference. It just depends on whether you get comfortable with the setup or not. Most riders seem to adapt then love them after a few rides. But a small percentage just don't gel with them.
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That's good to hear.
I guess I'll never never know if I never never try them 🙂
Fighting with carpal tunnel as I get older, will give these a try, thanks.
Annoying isn't it? If I ride without Steg Pegz nowadays I have to fit a hand brace that reduces that annoying numbness during the night
Important to have them adjusted properly as to not promote poor body position. I’ve ridden a couple friends bikes with these with them set so far forward that I was in a weird crouch the entire time, and it was impossible to get into anything even remotely resembling the attack position.
They’re not for me (yet … 😅), but I agree that whatever gets you out and enjoying your life is a great thing! That’s literally why actual crutches exist 😂
My takeaway with these is that for those that ride just technical enough terrain that you have to maintain high energy or you start failing a lot. Or where it’s extreme and you can only do it for an hour or 2. These can seriously increase ride time.
But I’d error on the bigger pucks over the small.
I’m in my late 50’s, with some physical issues, but none are associated with age, old injuries mostly. I disagree that in one’s 50’s and 60’s the mentioned issues are par for the course. They are lifestyle, (as you pointed out) induced conditions. However I still come to the same conclusion as yourself because age ultimately reduces overall endurance, I’m fitter than I was 35 years ago but the younger me would still run rings and the current iteration. It’s unavoidable if one is fortunate enough to live long. So fittem to ya bike and enjoy boys and girls. 😊
I agree we can bring on problems with bad lifestyle choices. Although sometimes a very active lifestyle causes problems later e.g. pro level sport. I know my knees are pretty battered from years of dirt riding, tennis, volleyball, running etc.
And there's the genetic lottery. Some people can eat poorly, smoke and drink heavily but not have age related issues. Then really fit people can die of cancer in their 30s.
Thanks for the video. I heard about these years ago for dirt bikes, but they were not available for adventure bikes so I wrote them off. Seeing they are available for the Norden because of this video, I will pick up a set to try out.
Worth trying, let me know what you think. Some guys love them first ride. Others after a few rides. But occasionally some guys just can't gel with them....
I love mine. Always telling people about them. I use Pivot pegs with them though on my DR too.
Got a set on my drz, had to modify the puc mounting point as it wasn’t far enough back to allow me to stand on the balls of my feet, plus swapped the pics for some cut down crutch feet , now happy as
I tried a set and really hated them, really restrictive for the type of riding I do, I did give them a proper go and really tried to get used to them but i just couldn't like them. I'm a trials rider and mountain biker at hart so i may be an extreme case of wanting to be loose on the bike? Not sure, i know i didn't like them at all for my style but I would still definitely recommend people try them if they are having issues though, anything that keeps you out there riding is worth the money!!!!
Totatlly understand, I did some trials too and it's important to stay loose as a goose.
I personally found the lateral forces these put on my knees while accelerating hard aggravated knee pain, along with giving me the feeling of being too locked into the bike. But like Barry said, do everything you can to not need them, and if you do need them, and if they do help you, then all good. Road racing tank pad grip tape is another alternative. James Stewart and other pro guys used it on side covers etc. It's surprising how well it works.
Good tip.
Finally about to "celebrate " my 60th next week 😮. Tendons in my hands suck at this point. Think I'll give these a go, you've yet to steer me wrongly!.. not recommending it but best thing for my hand so far was a cottonmouth bite, erased tendinitis in that hand for almost 5yrs, I swear 😊
Absolute godsend for stuff like that, Bryan. Having said that. occasionally some guys just can't gel with them. But all I can say it try them for at least five rides before you make a decisions...
Good advice. If they were available for my bikes I'd try them. Might make some of my own from skateboard soft PU-wheels.
Anything to prolong my stamina will increase the area under the graph - the enjoyment of riding activelly.
I might not like the steg-pegs in steep declines as you describe (that was my first thought when I first saw them), but It would be worth trying them out.
If I see an old or overweight person enjoying riding dirtbikes - that is a win. steg-pegs or not. Use it or lose it.
Not too hard to make, I did it with a few bikes until their were Steg Pegz available. The main thing is it's hard to guess the precise positioning of the pucks so you need that slot to move them along... or be able to drill a few holes until you get it right.
Great video, as usual - thanks
Our pleasure!
I wouldn't judge anyone on health issues congenital or otherwise, but being fit and light alleviates all the above massively. It's way too easy to start making excuses and overlook this.
Weight is an exponential function in the energy required to accelerate/decelerate/control it - being 10% overweight isn't 1/10th harder - it requires closer to 50% more effort!
An hour on a mountain bike 3-4 times a week can make a massive difference - take it easy, if you can't hold a conversation you're going too hard, do short bursts of high intensity.
100%. I make a point of never criticising guys who are overweight but losing weight (and exerciese) is a massive advantage in so many ways it should ALWAYS be the first option in my opinion.
Youngies. Some dribble sh#t because they have not lived. I'm 64 and still ride adventure style outings. My knees are crook, and arthritis in the hands. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks Steg Pegz.
Amen to that.
I have them on my DR650, and love them. But, they were intended for standard pegs, not the lowered pegs I have, so were too high, even with enduro boots. I ended up cutting a new groove 2” lower, and they are great now.
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I get arm pump but recently I have had much less tiredness in the legs- the reason??? Well the only real change is I have been doing squats for about 4 months now together with some push-ups and basic dumbbells/ biceps. It DOES make a big difference.
Great to hear, Nick. Exercise is always a good first option if you have the motivation. I exercise every day just so I can keep up with my riding buddies who are 5 to 30 years younger than me lol.
Bought my 690 used with Stegz already fitted. Had no idea what they were. Had a lightbulb moment when riding! So the Stegz are staying. A side note: for arthritis, tendinitis and muscle pain I have found that the best solution is…to marry a physiotherapist. 😂
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i think the opposite position of "if you need steg pegs, you should stop riding!" is "you need steg pegs on you bike to be a good rider. mount them forward of you bmw espresso maker!"
The coffee machine!
But you said it, you ended up sitting. I'm a vet enduro rider and you sit when you can, stand when you must, I watch trail/adventure riders (that's what I do nowadays) and it freaks me out that they stand all the time. I know big adventure bikes are horrific offroad but I'd ride a couple of hundred km of trails and only stand for about 5 minutes, you should be in permanent transition between standing and sitting, not stood up like a guardsman even on a flat gravel road. And forget gripping with your knees, nobody fast does that, use your feet and ankles.
When to sit and stand varies so much. And there's simply personal preference. And age! The older we get, the more important it becomes to conserve energy. Ditto for races. I stand way more than I need to when I adventure ride lol.
i,ve been using a diy version on my dr650 for years and my default riding position is standing up,,Its like the difference between bareback and using stirrups for horse riding,and as far as crutches go,at 74 yrs old,its like viagra for riding,you can get up all day long,,enough said
Viagra for riding 😂👍
Yeah, I'm fine with the igue, I just need to lose the fat part.
I love your work Bazza! But man I didn't realize you're a relic...wow man in your 60's now I understand why you like DR'S 😂 with Z's or without! I'm only 57 so although my testosterone has diminished I still have a healthy ego ...
I use steg pegz but when I look at those bits of ally & door stops I think Mr steg peg is taking the piss a little with his ridiculous pricing but I guess it all helps & if it keeps us old farts in the game longer then let's drink to mr steg pegz! 🎉
I'm a fucking fossil lol. Yeah they are expensive but he's not mass producing them. I emailed him once about the price and he insists he isn't making that much given the time it takes to bend all that metal into shape.
Looking at making my own, are the pucks nylon or rubber
Hey there. I like the idea behind this steg pegz for my arthritic joints. I already use and love the pivot pegz which can be rotated slightly. They feel comfy for my ankles. Does it make sense to combine the two things or does it not fit together?
I've never tried them together but a few viewers in the comments have said it was a good combo.
These are totally a crutch that enable older riders to keep on riding when they should consider other activities.
That's why I run them on both my dirt bike and dual sport bike. 😀
Steg pegz on both bikes and Clake One clutch on my dirt bike. Keeps me riding longer with seemly less wear on the body.
😂 You had me going there for a second! Maybe I should take up knitting....
I'm thinking about getting some of these. Although I'm young and relatively fit, one of the problems I have even on my 701 is that I'm pretty tall. So almost any bike I get on that isn't a big adventure bike, my knees are above the seat and it makes it hard to fully lock in and grip with my legs. I can still lock in decently but the stability difference between my 701 and a T7 is pretty crazy to me. I wonder if these would help with that.
I have had them on my 16' 701 for like 6 years and ended up getting them for all my bikes. They significantly reduce fatigue for me. Anything I can do to ride with less fatigue I'll do. I'm 6'4", my knees always above my seats.. If you do "in the pant", they work way better than "out of the pant"...but they will still give you a good hold. I did end up using double rubber pucks (the pack comes with a single and they use to sell an extension kit with a longer bolt and another rubber puck) for the 701. My boot kept sliding off the single puck when going fast for various reasons. The pucks slide on a bracket so you can adjust how far forward or back the puck is. Being tall, my pucks are towards the back to maintain proper body position below the knee. I ride on the balls of my feet.
On my 350 I go one puck so I can be more maneuverable on single track.
@ZeLogicnator5k Sweet thanks for the input. I prefer itb pants anyways. I appreciate the insight.
That's always been my problem too, Michael. I'm tall enough that every bike feels way too small lol. The Steg Pegz work well with bar risers and rearset lower footpegs...
Same with my hands starting to have issues. On my 690 on the right side I have something I may not be able to move where these will mount. Do you think they'd still give benefit with just one side or would that be awkward?
Hmmm never tried that. I'm sure it would still help but not sure if you'd feel a bit lopsided or not?
I thought you already covered Steg Pegz before!?!?
IMO, if you can get them and have the money, get them. They are amazing for any ADV/Dual Sport/Enduro/Etc riding. I have/had them on a 350, 701, and a 1190.
They reduce fatigue which equals longer rides/more standing. That is all I care about. Anyone who judges is a tosser.
Seven years ago I reviewed Steg Pegz for the DR650. But never did a general vid on this channel. I'm with you on the judgmental dicks lol.
I had not not heard of these bit will definitely keep them in mind when I become old and decrepit like Barry.
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this carpal tunnel syndrome is a bitch, i know what you are talking about, rhanks for sharing👍
yeah if you haven't had it it's hard to know what it's like!
Not sure if its a glitch or not? But the "link" to another video at the end does not work.
Which vid, Phil? Might be one I haven't released yet...
@@crosstrainingadventure Arrr no. My bad. Sorry
I never needed them until I bought a European bike.
Stegz pegs teach bad habits. I used to use them and found myself leaning back onto them when I should have been chest over the front number panel. Learn proper body position and you done have to grip bike as tight as people will tell you . Balls of feet on pegs chest forward and let the bike “push” rather than “pull” you
As per the vid, it's always a good idea to first look at options like gripping the bike more. Body positioning? Yes you can go into the attack position when hitting the throttle hard although typically that's derived from motocross and for full acceleration. It also means straight legs which I would argue ain't such a great idea in a dual sport or adventure riding context. There's nothing wrong with staying in that default body position which weights the rear wheel effectively... unless the bike is starting to wheelie.
I’m 61 and hate the things, you honestly don’t need them in my opinion, toughen up.
Possibly the most ridiculous offroad ‘mod’.