MINATO VS TOBIRAMA POWER LEVELS - AnimeScale
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Tobirama is one of the most underrated Kage
Yup
Edit: and overrated too lol
Cuz he has the least screen time as hokage
But so is Minato
most hokage are somehow underrated
@@sarveshpagar127 agreed
Tobirama should have had more screentime,he probably had least screentime out of all hokages!
if he had then maybe he would've just critsized his brother about trusting madara thats why they cut hehhe
Exactly I wish minato and tobirama had more screen time, along with ajisai and sakumo
@@aryamankudada4856 yes
Yes
tenten had less screentime than him so dont complain
Tobirama didn't appeared often in shippiden but he hyped me more than any kage, he is for sure my favourite kage
Thanks lol
😂😂 You are welcome senpai
@@tobiramasenju5902 Lord 2nd
Order of favourite kage in my opinion
1 naruto
2 kakashi
3 minato
4 hashirama
5 tobirama
6 Tsunade
7 Hiruzen
Kakashi clapped Tobirama sendjeW
Tobirama is so underrated. He is still a Senju having large reserves; even Minato's eyes looked scared after Tobirama flexed his presence. Secondly, he created alot of jutsus and there may be more jutsus made that is unrevealed.
Tobirama loosing this battle...
Tobirama :- Damn! Those Uchiha's!!!!!
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Yeah the uchihas tickled in his ass !
@@uts_so nigga what ??
@@ItachiUchiha-bx5ec what ???
@@uts_so what ???
Tobirama is the most underrated Character in Naruto Verse
Orochimaru laughs, he perfected everything he did
Tobirama is my favorite character
no . Kisame and dan are more underrated imo
Kabuto, Tobirama and Orochimaru are the most underrated
Bruh he is not, sasori is the most underated. The guy took an entire country out.
I think this was one of the hardest comparisons you've ever had to do
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Naruto called his parents’s
murderer a “cool guy”
Sad times😭
I hate that very much,but I see where he's coming from when I re watched the kaguya arc
I think he didn't called him a cool guy for killing his parents but for something else
Unpopular opinion: It’s not no kuramas fault that he killed them he was being enslaved for no reason people never gave the tailed beasts a chance.
Became a cool guy I guess
I personally prefer Tobirama is a true Genius.
He is
@UCqgyW8-x_hUkduaHKCGQ8-g Minato is definitely stronger than Tobirama but i wont say that minato can beat tobirama .. that man can do some crazy shits during a battle ..
Orochimaru and Tobirama are top 2 genius
@@orochimarupr981 Orochimaru has more knowledge than anyone else in the series but in terms of battle iq tobirama is in another lvl
he is a true racist
Speed isn't everything. The 2nd is proven time and time again that he's one of the most intelligent if not THEE most intelligent hokage ever. Even if he is a bit slower he's still fast with way more chakra.
One thing people always ignore about Tobirama is that he is literally the best sensory ninja in existence
He can sense people in a different country and literally tell your clan just by sensing you
The moment he was revived he was able to sense madara on the battle field in a different country
And he wasn’t even at full power
I know minato is faster but it’s not like Tobirama is so slow that he can’t keep up with him
Tobirama sensory ability is beyond ridiculous he always know the moment he teleports And appears
Add that to his ridiculous reaction time and decision making
I don’t see alive minato beating him
After all In terms of intelligence
Tobirama is also an unparalleled genius
Minato has kcm
Duh
@@isaiaharrington7253 that doesn't mean it's an automatic win.
Tobirama has less chakra then Minato in kcm while tobirama dosent even have a power up even without kcm Minato could beat tobirama
Tobirama is so underrated.
He literally laid the foundation for konoha yo become the syrongest village,and gave the kinkaku force,12 s rank shinobi( basically kinda like the akatsuki) a hell of a fight.
Minato is powerful and all,but tobirama is a bit underrepresented in both shippuden and og naruto to make a good decision on,compared to minato who has had plenty of screen time.
Also don't forget that the 2nd made more than 2000 jutsu .
The kinkaku force were 20 s rank shinobi, I wonder how many he took out as we never actually here about them again afterwards, where does it say tobirama created 2000 jutsu? I agree tobirama is the most underrated
@@MrTrip666 I'm not actually sure where it said that,but many do belive that he created many , if not all jutsu in naruto (excluding kekkei genkai and dojutsu). If they were 20,it just proves my and your point more. Its said that he gave them 1 heck of a fight. Remember , the akatsuki has s rank shinobi. Imagine fighting 20 of them at once.
@@thedarkphantom-lo3tw yeah I heard he created many and knee around 2000 but hiruzen learned them all from konoha.
Yeah I like to believe he managed to take many of them out or at least badly wounded them and that's why we never hear from them again.
One thing people always ignore about Tobirama is that he is literally the best sensory ninja in existence
He can sense people in a different country and literally tell your clan just by sensing you
The moment he was revived he was able to sense madara on the battle field in a different country
And he wasn’t even at full power
I know minato is faster but it’s not like Tobirama can’t keep up with him
Most people Misinterpreted his statement where he said he is better at using ftg …he never said faster than me ..he is simply better cus Tobirama saw him teleport a massive tailed beast bomb
But Tobirama sensory ability is beyond ridiculous
Add that to his ridiculous reaction time and decision making
I don’t see alive minato beating him
After all In terms of intelligence
Tobirama is also an unparalleled genius
I agree with that but minato has sage with boost any of his abilities, his sensorial abilities too, even tho tobirama's sensorial abilities are better, minayo also has some feats to obliterate tobirama
____😂😂 This is nonsense, a thousand techniques of Toberama founded his wisdom, talent and techniques that go beyond Minato in the stages of the only sane person looking at these aspects to forget the great water techniques and the illusion he uses. Minato was afraid when he released the Toberama chakra in front of Sasuke.
@@Bre-iu3ni what are you saying?
Feel like people downplay tobiramas exploding tag jutsu like he wouldn't be able to use it while he was alive. Of course he could use it. We're talking about the inventor of shadow clones and flying raijin. He could use a shadow clone or teleport away.
Still wouldn't be enough against minato because he can obviously teleport away too
Damn now that you say that you think itachi used or made a justu like that for his exploding clones
@@secretmessage9130 he was likely inspired the the 2nd. Which do you like better itachis exploding clones or kakashis lightning clone?
I just wanna say it no hate
But it's a sacrificial jutsu
So any alive person will die plus you need to do it with your own body
@@jonesreviews4613 exploding clones just fit itachi really
@@secretmessage9130 truth. I like both but my favorites will always be naruto and sasukes transformation jutsu
I recommend doing a Hiruzen Focused Video, you haven’t done much of him on your channel
Yeah I agree, Maybe Like Hiruzen vs Orochimaru or something like that
@@MJ-im3ny that would be cool
I don't think that there are not many feats
Because Hiruzen is a disgusting person
Prime hiruzen in data books and by Iruka sensei is said to have been the strongest hokage ( more powerful than hashirama apparently)
Tobirama fought 20 S-rank shinobis including Kinkaku and Ginkaku, S-rank shinobis are equivalent to Akatsuki members. He's underrated
Right
He still lost to ginkaku and kinkaku is 2v2 match
Nah man, don't start with that. The Ginkaku force is not a fully S-Rank force of Shinobi. Only the two leaders of the force are S-Rank. It was never stated anywhere that they were all S-Rank, just that they were given the vague title of being powerful.
There's no way Tobirama could beat 20 Akatsuki level shinobis. I don't think anyone other than Madara,Naruto or Sasuke can do it(excluding otsusukis)
@@rajeshrsp8338 Exactly bro
Finally some good fucking power scaling
Almost all of his power scaling is good and accurate tho
I think we doesn't seen Tobirama fighting and that's why we are underestimating him
we saw him the whole war, he indeed is good but the 4th is better
@@dsadsadsadasd7575 he still got the least screen time even during the war. Show him ALIVE in his prime with actual feats and Minato in his prime with how much he’s got
@@ubermontity399 don't underestimate Minato too bro
@@ubermontity399 minato didn't even reach his prime cause he died young
@@dsadsadsadasd7575 not really
Tobirama is one of the few characters that has no powerups
Even though he is strong as hell
Senju clan genetic is a big powerup I guess kkkkkkkk but I respect him because he most of his battles with his tecniques not with sharingan or being a jinchuriki kkkkkkkkkkk.
@Shirley Liles he needed more screen time kkkkkkkkkkkk.
Tobirama is already strong no need for sage mode kkkkkkkkkkkk. He already has FTG and a lot of proibited jutsus.
Tsunade also doesn't needed because she already has that seal in the head that gives her improved regeneration (I don't remember the name of the jutsu or mode) also she already has improved strength (I don't know if it is natural strength for being a Senju or because of that seal in the head or just manipulation of chackra)
@Shirley Liles I agree but Sage mode appeared few times only when the Naruto and Jiraiya were in critical situations so it is a kinda forced powerup just to help the principal caracters that aren't so strong.
Tobi doesn't need because he is very strong and already is a Senju and Hiruzen also is very strong but his feats were too off-screen and he was old.
@Shirley Liles no if they do tobirama is gonna turn out like hashirama he is op with his sage mode and wood style
Tobirama actually shaped the whole of narutoverse, you have no character as interesting as him
I agree but i like orochimaru too i always wished to see more of these two i wanted to know everything about them
mhm Then shadow clones and edo tensei wouldn't be a thing if he didn't create it
@@Joeli269-l9lFlying thunder god?
I agree with your scaling but I also believe Tobirama would have had access to Edo Tensei regardless, I think he chose not to use it for the sake of morals.
With Edo Tensei, the fight would be very even in my opinion, even with Minato's KCM, Tobirama is just smarter.
Well the 2 are really smart tho, Tobirama is a bit smarter, not a lot.
Nope. Minato vastly superior with Fuinjutsu than Tobirama. Tobirama is not smarter either. Having access to KCM means Minato have many chakra to use. He can create thousand kage Bunshin and deal with each Edo Tensei. Unless Tobirama summons Hashirama/Madara, Minato will be able to release them from Edo Tensei-or seal them completely.
He was just depressed about having to kill his own student.
@Am I Demon Tobirama has a higher IQ than minato since he made allot of jutsu,but Minato's battle IQ is higher since minato is the type to end the fight as soon as possible and a feat for that is he outsmarted and found a way to counter obito's kamui in second so Minato is allot more fast thinker and has a higher battle IQ than tobirama but yes tobirama also has a very high battle iq
@Am I Demon he split Kurama into two, sealed half of it inside him and half of it in Naruto, cause it wasn't physically possible to seal, if he did seal the full Kurama into Naruto, who was just a baby, Naruto would be deleted.
Nice video! I have been waiting for it and it is finally here!
I know right
Now people can stop fighting maybe
I'm really happy that you are doing a video with Tobirama being one of the main focuses
@Shirley Liles he racist tho
@@thatoneguy4823 he's really not
@@thatoneguy4823 no
@@watermelonshark071 he hates uchihas which means he's racist. I'm not denying that he's underrated but he is racist
@@thatoneguy4823 I can see why you think that because most people think that but he didn't hate the Uchiha he just highly distrusted them to a cold point. Imagine growing up and fighting them in war and losing most of your family. He even made the police force the Uchiha clan. I would imagine if he hated them all he wouldn't put them in charge of enforcing laws
Tobirama create Flying Raijin.
Minato mastered it.
Naruto and orochimaru 🤭🤭
@@a2-_fg edo rasengan
Tobirama has very good mastery over it too, Minato simply can use it more efficiently with less chakra consumption
@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Tobirama teleported two bijus and fought all war without the rest, while Minato got tired fast. Tobirama is better ftg user, Minato is better shunshin user
@@themadas tobirama teleported two bijus
When bro?
The most loved kage vs the underrated kage we know how this is going to go
Drippiest vs the Friendliest
I can't even choose .
The drip 😫
Most of tobirama's invented jutsus were forbidden either because they either threatened the fate of shinobi world or the user's life itself.and Also tobirama's feats in war arc made me wonder if they have retconned that "minato is faster than tobirama" state?since we saw tobirama have sharper reflexes than minato multiple times.for me it's klm minato>prime tobirama>edo tobirama> edo tsm minato>alive minato.
Agree. Finally someone
Ah, poor Tobirama, he is slept on
Wait how is tandem paper bombs too dangerous for Tobirama to use when he can teleport out? He can actually even have his shadow clones teleport a target in lol
According to the data page
It is a jutsu that only the real body of a person can perform so if you are a edo no problem , a live person can also perform it but he will die lol
Plus tobirama himself said that
" I createdreanimation jutsu and a supporting jutsu for it , that supporting jutsu being tandempaper boms. Atleast this is what I know for more info you can read the data page.
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Adult Naruto KCM2 SM
Hashirama SM
Adult Sasuke EMS PS
Madara EMS PS
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Itachi MS
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1st Naruto 7thHokage
2nd Sasuke
3rd Kakashi/Guy(Max Power)
4th Hashirama( Sage Mode) (ShinsuSenju)
5th Madara(EMS) (Majestic Attire)
6th Minato (KCM)
7th Itachi(MS)
8th Tobirama
9th Shisui(MS)
10th Hiruzen
11th Orochimaru
12th Tsunade
13th Jiraiya(SM)
14th Izuna(Maybe)
15th Danzo(MS)
@Kireen updated I think Hiruzen should be above Jiraiya, but I agree with everything else
@@Debate_Soldier When Izuna died, Konoha wasn't exist
@Kireen updated kakashi dms + so6p > madara
Tobirama supremacy🔥🔥🔥
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Just remember "Minato's daze" when he discovered Obitos identity during the war, this was a big factor in his sudden lack of decision making in the Juubito fight
Yup my man had a mental breakdown
Yes that really affected him mentally.
@Mugen aaa you can say that if you want .
But Shinobi are trained to have no feeling on a mission or a great ninja war yes I agree this dazed him a little bit because his student is alive and evil but Shinobi are trained to stay composed
@Mugen lmao...neji died in the actual war declared by obito and minato found out that his own former student declared the war which happened to be the same masked man he fought while he was alive. How are the comparisons you made even similar and neji's death affected the others as much as it did naruto but obito's story is so tragic and affected minato and kakashi the most and even kakashi was dazed when he realized in the fight against obito with naruto and guy. It took guy to snap him out of it. Fantards!!!...can't expect logic from a fantard at this point lol
Two great characters. Minato is my favorite tho
M2
I hate how people underrate Tobirama
One thing people always ignore about Tobirama is that he is literally the best sensory ninja in existence
He can sense people in a different country and literally tell your clan just by sensing you
The moment he was revived he was able to sense madara on the battle field in a different country
And he wasn’t even at full power
I know minato is faster but it’s not like Tobirama is so slow that he can’t keep up with him
Tobirama sensory ability is beyond ridiculous he always know the moment he teleports And appears
Add that to his ridiculous reaction time and decision making
I don’t see alive minato beating him
After all In terms of intelligence
Tobirama is also an unparalleled genius
Well its because of those damn uchiha
Yeahh dude.. Minato Fanboy really likes to exaggerate the power of his favorite characters and ignore the existing facts.
the actual fact is that Tobirama is far superior to Minato in terms of Strength, chakra, stamina, experience, ninjutsu, battle IQ, intelligence and durability.
@@Kohei-Matsuyamaexactly. Minato fangays are brainless.
Tobirama the most underrated hokage. Alive - Tobirama wins, edo - KCM Minato wins.
Interesting
@@tobiramasenju5902 it is isn't it, my apologies Nidaime Hokage
Speed is what makes minato more powerful but in term of intellect let's give it to tobirama. He's the one who created a lot of forbidden jutsu, high difficulty for minato to win against tobirama and mid difficulty for tobirama if he have times to learn all the forbidden jutsu.
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tobirama beats every form of minato
@@defox6308 no he doesn't, I doubt if tobirama beat any version of minato, I think minato beats any form of tobirama.
@@momotheone9700 tobirama was literally out performing kcm minato in every way during the war. Tobirama is clearly stronger
@@defox6308 " minato's daze" ever heard of it
Tobirama is founder of many jutso and academy of leaf village.he is one of most important hokage . I think he's kinda underatted
Tobirama is an underrated beast in terms of character
Naah he is the 2nd badass character
He beats character like orange mask obito, Itachi, Jiraiya, Tsunade and possibly Minato because it could go either way.
1. Naruto
2. Hashirama
3. Minato
4. Tobirama
5. Hiruzen
6. Tsunade
7. Kakashi
8. Danzo
Pretty solid
Think he would be rated stronger if we had more screenwriter of him.
Izuna for refference was equal to madara When they both had MS the only time Madara pulled away was whn madara gained ems which upped his level this puts tobirama one level under madara in his "glory days"
We don't have proof for that
@@retro7369 No it is canon that madara got ems by implanting Izunas MS into him. And just because someone doesnt use susanoo doesnt mean they use it he didnt have much time like shisui so him being able to show his susanoo of really wasnt an option. It is like the shisui situation they both get like 35 seconds to fight and because they didnt use susanoo in that time people assume they dont have susanoo which is a lie they both have susanoos. People who think izuna indra and shisui dont have susanoo are beyond ignorant.
@@professamook9313 I know Indra and shisui had one but I didn’t know izuna had one. It is a stretch to say izuna was equal to madaras ms since madara overall was probably faster and stronger since he was fighting tobiramas brother, hashirama who is obviously stronger than tobirama.
@@retro7369 doesn’t necessarily mean madara was stronger because he was fighting hashirama remember hashirama and madara are and always have been best friends even as enemies do it makes sense they fight
@@professamook9313 It seems like a stretch to me because we actually never got to see the full potential of izunas ms and considering he died to tobirama who is weaker than hashirama in the warring states, I put ms madara above ms izuna.
This is fire BRO ♥️💥
Love ya vids
Me too
@@nenemonroe4874 foreal
Bro I remember when you had 15k you have grown so much and deserve so much more
Wow
I knew him since the naruto v sasuke video
Tobirama is really underrated not gonna lie. He is probably the 4th if not the 3rd best/strongest hokage ever coming neck to neck with minato. I am talking about hokage form (the time when they were hokage).
Imagine in his death battle he revived Hashirama😂
Hashirama: scolds tobirama 😂😂
Tobirama is very underrated!
minato and hashirama rapidly gained natural energy because of edo form. the proof is shinsu senju hashirama took time before he collected nature energy yet he collected enough in an instant in edo form.
He literally went sage mode instantly against madara what are you even talking about
Been waiting for this
Well, you also overestimated Minato KCM saying that he can instantly blitz Tobirama. Tobirama was fast enough to keep up with Juubito, mark him and he didn't even take any damage against Obito. Ten tail Obito was able to react on kcm Minato without any problem.
Jubito was exactly running and then minato's dispersion
He was standing in one place
Plus how would tobirama react to kcm minato if he literally said base minato is faster then him I mean it seems senseless atleast to me .
Minato was faster then all the other kages including tobirama when they were going to the Shinobi alliance to help them against obito and madara.
Tobirama already admitted that Minato was faster even in base, then kcm Minato is many times faster then that. So yes, he can blitz tobirama quite easily.
@@GriddyJiddyOMM that’s travel speed not combat speed.
If i remember it correctly,tobirama actually use his clone to atk juubito that's why he didn't take any dmg the clone blow with juubito
He didn't overestimate Minato KCM, Minato is already fast enough without KCM, but the limitless amount of chakra of Nine-Tails, he has increased of Strength too and mainly the chakra he can use so he will not get exhausted and out of chakra unless he used Kurama full-body mode, if he uses it, he can defeat Tobirama even easily
Fire video mate
I do feel like Tobirama is more powerful than minato by at least like 80-120k in their base forms, and able to put up somewhat of a fight against his sage mode.
I mean no one knows but If tobirama is stronger than Minato form he would have almost died if he faught him since base Minato literally easily deafeted obito thats has the Kamui mas making him untouchable,got trained by madara has zetsus assist,has wood style and off he has hashirama cells,Minato also easily took of his nine tails genjutsu with ease in base form like hashirama vs madara
@@Zorax123also you forgot minato was saving Naruto and Kushina so he was distracted too otherwise he would’ve easily won
@@Zorax123Tobirama is smarter than Minato😂
AnimeScale is so cool, keep up the good work,
That man tobirama invented the best jutsus in Naruto verse
Literally the best video I've seen on this. Admitting Minato is slightly faster and possibly stronger than tobirama, while at the same time acknowledging tobiramas strengths as a battle genius and knowing plenty of jutsu. Personally I would also give this one to Tobirama 51% of the time
It's ironic that tobirama is known for his water style techniques but during the 4th ninja war i think he only use 1 water style technique just to cut the root of the divine tree
@Shirley Liles he would be too op then don't u get it Minato is main character father SO OFC he gets a buff
i understand ur pain ...but no need to worry.....tobirama is still the best and strongest water style user ever
Yeahh..
Kishimoto didn't want to show Tobirama's full power. I feel sorry for Tobirama. He's low-key only because his full power isn't shown and he doesn't have many scenes in the anime and manga.
Booyeah.... I'm early. BTW nice video dude
Tobirama and kabuto are the underrated genuises
Love your vids bro keep it up
Everyone loves tobirama's uchiha hating personality
Indeed 😆😆😆
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Lets go!! You finally did the video ive been waiting for.
Pretty good scale ❤❤❤❤❤
Tobirama is favourite character from Naruto. Minato is one of my favourites
Minato with nine tail > Tobirama > Minato without nine tails ✌🏻
Not sure
It'll be very tough battle, but I think Tobirama will win
@@Abraham-nn8hy for sure but I still think sage mode minato could beat tobirama
Love your vids keep up the good work my favorite youtuber ❤️🔥
Tobirama is one of the most underrated
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NICE!! THESE ARE MY FAV CHARACTERS !!
I personally think Tobirama
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Wassup videos as fire as ever
*Minato the goat* wish we got to see his backstory ✊😔
What if i told you that kishimoto Is planning on making a minato: naruto previous gen series.
@@shahilsingh6354 proof
@@pinkdoe1725 proof:trust me bro 😆🤣
@@pinkdoe1725 he said it one of his interviews. Quote, "I may produce a prequel of Minato's origin so that we have a series that mainly focuses on the past rather than the future. It will also include background stories of Fugaku Uchiha, Mitarashi Anko, The legendary sanins, Sakumo Hatake, Iruka (Also including some of the historical shinobis such as hashirama, tobirama etc) . This would also surely provide a new and interesting perspectives on each of these characters; and providing more screen time for the following characters and more." And Quote.
been waiting for this thanks
I think tobirama should also know how to use sage mode because he has got no power boosts like his brother
He’s broken at that point
@Shirley Liles I think tsunade has enough boost with the hundred healings but I think Kakashi should also get a power boost
@Shirley Liles it could sage mode Of hounds or any other boost
@Shirley Liles yes but it's not cool that some shinobi's get a big power boost some become underrated some overatted some just disappear after some time I think it should be fixed
He has the dragon sage mode hahaha that could've been epic with his water dragon techniques. But he is already the best sennsory ninja (he could trace ninjas nations a way and notice their lienage, power and clan).
Teleportation is a hax in Ninja world. So both are OP af.
Except for KCM Minato, I will give the win to tobirama in all other stages due to his naturally high chakra reserves and battle experience and tactics that he dispalyed.
same
@Black Excalibur he may have but based on what we have been shown, i will say tobirama has more cuz of his senju bloodline
@@sakshamsharma5338 one thing most ppl fail to realize
When the five kages made the crimson seals
They were limited
Hashirama with his insane chakra could only make 5 clones
Minato could only make 1
Yet Tobirama made 2
This could possibly mean he has more chakra reserves than even kcm
@@damifash758 exactly my point
@@damifash758but the problem in your theory is that even hashirama said that half of kurama's chakra is equal his own chakra reserves.
Which implies minato should have hashirama's chakra reserves with kcm .
Now that's a different point if it was nerfed or he just wanted to make one shadow clone idk Because even an edo of old hiruzen was able to make 2 shadow clones which implies he has same chakra reserves as tobirama according to your logic.
No hate btw
Man you are the best anime comparison creator you are the best by the way I am first
Animescale >Seth just saying
Love The Video
Well, thats not true 100%, Minato learn the Obitos kamui technique in 5 mins lol thats genius, and beat him easilly. Something that the entire ninja army didnt figure until kakashi know they were conected.
Lol Danzo two lackeys figured out kamui after one attack
Against a far more experienced obito
Stop the wank!!
Only difference is they didn’t have flying raijin which is a natural counter
@@damifash758 he can't reply with the burn hahahah Minato is the most plot convenient hokage. suddenly master kyubi mode and sage mode after being revived without it being mentioned in the whole series prior to the war arc. haha
Minato(gennin) - 20
Tobirama(gennin) - 22
Minato(jonnin) - 80
Tobirama(vs izuna) - 330
Minato(hokage) - 100
Minato (sage) - 237.5
Minato (edo) - 128
Minato (edo/sage) - 304
Minato (KCM) - 400
Tobirama (edo) - 1,100
Minato is just a little bit faster but Tobirama is more powerful, tobirama wins
No but ok
Yeah exactly.. Minato only superior in speed and taijutsu.
Tobirama is a Legend Level Too
Tobirama is stronger physical and has a large chakra pool and has all 5 basic natures and yang release and he was known as the best hokage in the history bcs he created the academy the uchiha police force and many more things
You should do itachi vs kakashi power levels. That would be interesting
Minato was able to go into sage mode instantly because of edo tensei. He himself said that it takes him too much time to accumulate chakra. In edo tensei form shinobie constantly recover their chakra pool almost in an instant. That's why Minato was able to accumulate senjutsu chakra that fast to perform one rasengan attack
But it was never stated that senjutsu is better in edo
Plus once you are a perfect sage you are perfect always for example if we bring edo jiraya he will still have that imperfect toad look.
Plus like you said chakra is constantly replenishing, but my friend senjutsu depends on " gathering nature energy " not chakra
Minato has the yin half of kurama gathering nature energy for him
@@a2-_fg did I say that senjutsu is better in edo?
I said that ET is the reason why he went into Sage Mode that fast. Chakra recovering way too fast
@@vvebsta6237 but you said sage mode which is using senjutsu.
And senjutsu doesn't works like that
@@a2-_fg just think about it, Minato says that he can't gather nature energy fast and then instatly goes into sage mode. We know that Kurama could gather senjutsu for Naruto. It's ET mechanics or half of Kurama. I am sure that alive Minato can't enter sage mode instantly like Hashirama
Tobirama are the best for me 😍😍 too much badass and I love suiton jutsu
I honestly think the fact that Minato could use Sage mode was a kind of rushed addition to his character only revealed to us later in the series to buff him and also make him more related to Naruto and Jiraya. Same with KCM, how did he ever learn to do so as he died right after sealing the nine tails within him?
No remember when naruto was learning sage mode and the geezer from say naruto surpass those two ate sage mode
Maybe he learned it on his way to battle feild ?
He was probably talking to kurama during the time when hashirama was explaining stuff to sasuke
The reaper death seal was explained by hiruzen in part 1 naruto. They don't actually die rather the souls are trapped forever in the death god's belly forever fighting with the other. In this case, kurama.
if minato didn't have kcm there wouldn't have even been a point in bringing him to the war, he'd be just about as useful as the 3rd. A worse version of Tobirama
Interesting 😎😎😎
Tobirama claps minato
I read that wrong xd
Naruto would be a beast if he had learned flying raijin.
U guys underrate Tobirama too much!!!!! I hope pple dont watch dis particular video
Tobirama made EMS Sasuke and everyone else in the room shake with just one finger, Hashriama being the only one with strong enough chakra to confront him and calm him down.
I'd say Tobirama is stronger than Minato by a good margin even with Sage Mode.
Tobirama vs KCM Minato is another discussion tho.
Not rlly tobirama doesnt beat sage mode minato
@@Gunnersbury07 have u seen sage mode minato fight?
@@cantguardb3498 no but he still wins
@@Gunnersbury07 base minato gonna get destroyed he gonna need the 9 tails to have a chance
@@cantguardb3498 u clearly overeating tobirama, sage minato is better in many aspects,
The war arc minato was depressed 💀💀 man i wanted to see him at his fullest since he's my fav
You're wrong. Hear me out. Tobirama never admitted Minato is better at FTG, he said shunshin( bodyflicker, technique Shisui known for), its a dub mistake, in thew original he says shunshin. And the his FTG can't be faster, its instant, equal for both, only movement speed is different. And the last: Minato instantly got sage power because of the Kurama, who gathered nature energy for him inside while Minato was moving and fighting. Alone alive prime Minato could never enter sage mode against Tobirama. I agree with KCM, but alive prime vs alive prime Tobirama stomps him, as you said his battle IQ is higher, he has bigger chakra reserves, more versatile, knows more jutsus, by far better genjutsu user, better taijutsu fighter, mastered all 5 chakra nature elements and ying & yang releases, knows all ups and downs of FTG, yes Minato is faster, but slightly, Tobirama is still one of the fastest shinobi ever. Minato barely outplayed 13 years old Obito with his speed, while Tobirama matched Juubito speed, so he's not that slower, he's still fast enough to counter Minato. Just think about it, there's no reasonable way Minato wins in alive prime battle. He wins only in reanimated versions.
Hear me out. Kakashi tells Minato that he remembers that his Sage Mode was not that good. That means Kakashi saw Minato entering Sage mode when he was alive. Therefore. Minato had Sage Mode when he was alive. You also need to learn how to control natural energy. You don’t learn it in an instant.
@@AnimeScale94 i never said he learnt it in instant, i meant he entered sage mode against Madara in instant, because kurama was gathering nature energy for him. And you proved my point too. Kakashi stated that Minato wasn't good at sage mode, so he won't be use it effectively against Tobirama, especially without Kurama chakra reserves.
" tobirama matched jubitos speed"
Lmao
@@a2-_fg When Jubito attacked clone Hashi and Tobirama and the rest of the group during that split second of blinding attack by Jubito, most of the group was not able to see and react, Clone Tobirama ATTACHED 5 EXPLOSIVE TAGS and MARKED JUBITO (which was the reason why they were able to attack Jubito successfully though there was no damage but the attacks connected because of Tobirama's markings on Jubito) meaning his combat speed and reaction was the fastest among the group. Hence, the original Tobirama is faster than the clonse as well.
Yes Minato might have a better teleportation but in terms of Combat Speed if Tobirama attaches his explosive tag AND TO MAKE IT MORE ADVANTAGOUS TO TOBIRAMA HE IS THE BEST SENOSORY NINJA IN THE ANIME he could sense ninja from countries away know their lineage, status and power. His Unparrareled Sensory Skills and Fastest Combat Speed and Reaction alone is greater than a faster teleoprtation technique which Tobirama could execute his tags in a matter of split seconds which Jubito noticed late in reference to Jubito's attack against clone tobirama/hashirama and when Jubito removed Minato's arm and attached a bijuu bomb without Minato noticing while Tobirama managed to ATTACH 5 EXPLOSIVE TAGS AND MARKING as Jubito realized it late already!
Yeah bro.. exactly
This youtuber watch naruto from youtube short. he doesn't know anything.
Nice scaling logic you covered everything that needs to be covered I'm satisfied with this outcome.
I don't think minato can not beat tobirama , minato can surpass him on speed but tobirama know better jutsu than him and also stronger, he invented the strongest jutsus like Reanimation and more...and he can also sense chakra very well so no one can hide from him, he can find their location, he can also create water without any water source, he also have access to all 5 elements like his brother and he also trained with Hashirama
The way one could put it is tobirama invented jutsu and minato perfected it. Also lets not forget minato invented rasengan and died at 24. give him more years to live and he will create an even better rasengan. Minato died the earliest out of all hokage by a LONG margin
To me Tobirama is very underrated he is much stronger than base form Minato he's base form is somewhere between sage mode Minato and KCM minato
We have never seen tobirama full power so we can't tell exactly who can win
Speed,minato
Strength,me
I say a 50/50 but yeah true
@@tobiramasenju5902 minato has sage mode, which drastically increases his strength
I agree
@@tobiramasenju5902Strength, Chakra, durability, IQ,Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu all goes to Tobirama. Only speed goes to Minato😂
@@matthiasvanderzwan7253off screen power😂
Love your vids
Minato has tremendous fan following so his fans downplay tobirama a lot
Your telling me that minato fans are present more than tobirama fans, because I know for a fact that the tobirama fan base is HUGE.
@@momotheone9700 Nope Tobirama fan page is never huge .To be honest Minato fan worship Minato like Itachi fans do it
Same goes for some tobirama fans too lol
Why do y'all still say Tobirama is underrated? You're like the millionth person to say this. He isn't underrated.
@@demonlast8868 You're completely wrong. Look at the comment section, the Minato highball is off the charts.
Great video
In alive fight Tobirama would win as he even though Minato is better at using flying raijin that doesn't seal the W for minato. Tobirama also knows the Multi shadow clone jutsu and has senju chakra reserves. This means he could reasonably create over 100 clones. Tobirama is shown to be a fighter who analyzes his opponents and creates openings to land one-hit ko attacks. +100 tobiramas with flying raijin against a minato who is better at using flying raijin.Tobirama would win the alive battle.
Don't forget Reanimation Jutsu. Tobirama can just summon Madara, Hashirama, Hiruzen, Jiraiya, and Itachi to help him beat Minato.
@@tobi5988 he doesn't have their dna tho also his edo tensei would be more shittier then orochi
One thing people always ignore about Tobirama is that he is literally the best sensory ninja in existence
He can sense people in a different country and literally tell your clan just by sensing you- official data book
The moment he was revived he was able to sense madara on the battle field in a different country
And he wasn’t even at full power
I know minato is faster but it’s not like Tobirama can’t keep up with him ..
Tobirama sensory ability is beyond ridiculous he always know the moment he teleports And appears
Add that to his ridiculous reaction time and decision making
I don’t see alive minato beating him
After all In terms of intelligence
Tobirama is also an unparalleled genius
@@tobi5988
1.) Requires DNA
2.) Means that Minato has immense prep time, giving him a sage buff, and the Gamakichi and Gamabunta summons.
You know that creating 100 shadow clones will split up his chakra massively? It is possible, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.