@@YesMyNameIsDonovan you do know that deadspin is owned by gawker, right!? you know, the company that got bent over backwards by hulk Hogan... probably not the best place to grab articles from....
Aww poor poor thing...🚼🌊🛀 Well thats too fuckin bad. I never heard you Kobe fans speak up for Bron when he was disrespected on Nat. TV with the puppet commercials. Stfu and sit down , winy ass niggas
deadass,ppl been disrespecting kobe ever since the suns series.but now it’s even worse,when u give credit to kobe and say he is top 6 ppl be sayin “he is overrated because he passed away”smh
@@abdihassan6637 So Bron is discredited for having teamates play good? Lmao foh We gon ignore Kobe shootin hella bricks in 2010 yet still gettin his ass saved with the ring cuz his team stepped up? Atleast in 2016 LeBron was still the top dog in each game.
Quote: "Kobe was basically Jordan. Jordan was just a liiiiitle bit better." But Jordan was #1 but Kobe not even on the top 10 of all time??? What???? Man the disrespect...
@Coatesville Red Raiders When in God's name was Pau Gasol ever considered the best? Also, neither would have won without Kobe, Shaq would of lost to the Blazers if it weren't for Kobe, but the only takeaway from that game is the alley-oop and not the fact that Kobe beat Shaq in every single statistic and pushed the Lakers to comeback in the 4th quarter, go watch that game, he made Scottie Pippen, an all-time great defender look like a scrub at the age of 20.
he cant because shaq like kobe, was a fucking killer.. different way but he dominated.. lebron just is not that dude. great player, but he dont have kobe mindeset, hes not a homebred talent.
@@princeofwar4551 Yep for sure like Jordan, iverson,tmac,barkely, the list goes on absolute best players and really it should only matter what one player says and Jordan said it plain as day from the man's mouth only kobe can be compared to him.
This should even be a conversation cause Kobe was loyal to the lakers 20 years never went to another team even when he had bums on his side he still stood with the lakers lebron is not loyal so he never be Kobe in los angels never
he did demand a trade but thats cause the front office wasn't treating him and giving him what he deserved. but he stayed that's what matters. he was still loyal to purple and gold. jeannie buss even teared up during kobe's jersey retirement thanking him for staying even tho it really wouldve been easier for him to leave. u can tell she was very grateful for that.
so you don't care if the lakers dethrone the warriors ? and then we blame nick wright for saying what he says about the kobe cult not really being laker fans .
Exactly. I don't know why whenever people bring up brons name there has to be some weird conspiracy or wild thought attached. People gotta just let things ride out first lol
No way! Kobe was a soldier. He played through numerous injuries, continued shooting free throws after he popped his Achilles in half, helped win us 3 rings, won us 2 rings, gave us 81 Vs. Toronto and 60 in his last game...Ducked a rape case, won a Emmy and has a purple and gold 64 Impala on switches....
Minus Kobe the 2005-2006 Lakers had a worse roster than this 2019 team and went 45-37 and all the way to the WCF’s. Kobe was an absolute killer competitor and never stood around and watched like LeBron..
Different style of play and and the league is waayyy better now. Kobe couldnt make anything happen by himself in this warriors era league if he was still in his 16 season..and I agree LeBron watches sometimes but he's just a different type of player than mj and Kobe. And that's what in the end is gonna separate himself from everyone else and make him the G.O.A.T
Infedel Lives Matter LeBron has carried a lottery team to the finals twice. Kobe has never done that and the 06 Lakers wouldn't have made the playoffs they didn't have the greatest coach of all time. You just overrate Kobe and can't admit that he is not on LeBron's level.
And I don't think LeBron does either. How old is LeBron again? 35? Mamba was with the Lakers ALL of his NBA career. He started ascended and ruled, so no comparison whatsoever (tenure, longevity, loyalty etc), now talent-wise, is debatable
False cuz he already is lebrons stats and making it to the finals 9 straight yrs in a row with no help proves that he’s better hands sown lbj is obviously better than Kobe
The Ahm3n Kobe beat more 50 win teams in the playoffs then Bron or MJ. Stop acting like LeBron was facing top tier competition. He would be a first out in the West and at best a second. That’s just how good the west was in comparison. Stop using bad strawmans please.
People saying lebron went to the finals 9 times makes them so fuckig dumb. Like in boxing you can punch as many as you want but the criteria is still the percentage of the punch. kobe is 5-2 lebron however os 3-6. Lebron better throw those rings he had that’s not real hardwork that’s a fucking result of piggyback riding in others hardwork. Get the fuck outta here you don’t know shit
@@hulaanmo97 Kobe has 5 because he got carried by Shaq for 3 and had the greatest coach of all time for all of his championships. Kobe would have 0 without them.
Kevin Joad Kobe was a winner and I love Kobe! On the other hand LeBron has won 3 could have won 4 if Irving and Love weren’t out that first time against GS. I am happy to have him and really hoping for the right player to come next year! Go Lakers!!!
LeGoat JaGoat he bounced when he lost a chip. He put a superteam together on the cavs and still lost. He traded away the future of the cavs and forced out kyrie. Same with LA. They traded their young core for 1 guy. As soon as AD or Bron leaves the Lakers are back to where they were 5 years ago.
Lebron will never ever be as great or even greater than Kobe in Los Angeles. I grew up watching Kobe. I know it sounds ridiculous to say, but he's like family to a lot of us. We celebrated his milestones, his championships and cried with him during the most difficult times. We saw him grow up, build a family, retire, reinvent himself, and etc. There will never be another Kobe Bryant in LA.
Anthony 0893 that’s your opinion and I respect that I’m a big lebron fan and think the best ever in my eyes but come on I use to scream kobe before shootin everything lmao kobe was special
Ken Bolden bro they always shift to lebron the defense schemes be primarily on lebron everytime he drives people go on lebron other people be wide open on his team
kobe bryant's legacy in the lakers are not just his rings with the lakers..its his whole career with the franchise and the fans. He went from being a cocky young player who was benched for the first 3 years, to be the second in command in the laker-3 peat, then to a villain for kicking Shaq off the team, as well as becoming the most hated man for the rape charges, and then faught his way back to be the best player he can and won 2 more championship for the lakers. His career went through a roller-coaster. The fans also went through a roller coaster from having high expectations of him, to hated him and then to accept him again as their franchise player. Lebron is just happen to be another player to take a stop at the lakers and trying to get some.
I am a die hard Kobe fan.. I grew up with Kobe... I never thought he was better than Jordan.. I can say that Kobe could take him.. but never better.. Kobe styled his game after Jordan (and a few others).
Only kid trolls will tell you Lebron is already better than Kobe as a laker. Nobody can or will replace Kobe as a basketball player or a laker specifically period. Kobe's accolades speak for themselves. The facts on him alone put Kobe towards the top of the all time list. Lebron lacks in hella areas when context is added to the stats LeEspn, Max, Shannon, and Nick wrong shove down our throats every day. So to make Lebron look better, they tear down past legacies to boost Lebron. It's pathetic that this is even being discussed..
I think its the opposite, Lebron has had a better career individually, and we got stop looking a rings as the main factor because its a team game. Lebron choked against Dallas, but LA was more of a favorite when they lost in 5 games to Pistons. This Kobe talk has just started a couple years ago as he is better than Lebron, that's just him and MJ feeling threatened by Lebron. MJ is a better ball player than lebron, but not a better team mate or role model.
Kobe doesn't get nearly the love that LeBron does. They hold so much against him because he played with Shaq. Through good and bad seasons, Kobe was a Laker. LeBron left his city twice. And No one talks about it. It ain't nothing LeBron can do in 4 years that Kobe has already done in 20 with one team. Even if he wins a championship.
I'm from Chicago I was raised to see Jordan and live games and Kobe and Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan he is to clutch and to alike as sit Jordan. Kobe is Kobe Lebron James will never be anything close to Kobe
Only teenagers think Lebron is better all time than Kobe lol people in their 20s, 30s, and beyond who watched whole careers of both players will tell you Kobe was better despite having more competition in the western conference his whole career, its just that most of these people, myself included, don't care to debate with those teenagers on social media so you always see lebron fans disgracing Kobe and MJ without many people disputing their points
I'm 34 and so I've gotten the chance to see Jordan, Kobe and LeBron in their primes but I have to disagree with you, LeBron is better than Kobe. I think Jordan is still better than LeBron though.
Why can't lebron james just come to LA without being compared to these laker greats. These sports analytics really try to cause problems between these athletes and their fanbases and it's sad
Kobe is top 10 player, maybe even top 5. But Kobe, by far, has the greatest NBA story of all time. The ups and downs, roller coaster of feelings, legendary performances from kid to adult, the tragic downfall. His career was literally a sports movie.
I watched Kobe, Jordan, and Lebron...neither of these players had me in awe more than Kobe. Scratch stats, accolades, and championships...we are talking putting on a SHOW for the fans...what has either player done, performance wise, that Kobe hasn't done, or done better?
Kobe was my Jordan. I only got to watch Jordan's last year with the wizards. And its obvious that kobe gets majority of his game from jordan since in his eyes jordan is the best. Thats the reason why nobody puts kobe before jordan. Lebron before kobe is ridiculous.
How many game winning shots does Kobe have in the Finals or playoffs? Or memorable moments to compare to MJ in the playoffs? Here are a few off the top of my head: Switch hand layup, shot over Ehlo, 63 against the Celtics in the Garden, The Shrug, averaging 41pts per game against the Suns in 93, insane game 4 against the Knicks in 93, the shot 2 the same season, game winner and Flu games in 97 Finals, and oviously the shot over Bryon Russell in 98 to win it all. I am pretty sure I am forgetting a few but please stop it. MJ had the most iconinc moments and some. Was asbolutely aestetically the most beautiful basketball player to ever walk this earth and it is not even close. And no disrespect to Kobe. He was great... But not in the same stratosphere as MJ, the god.
@@cobrachannel100 Really? Ok, what about the comeback from 20 vs the Trailblazers..in the 4th quarter in 2001, while Shaq had only 11 pts most of the game? What about the game-tying and game-winning shot vs the Suns? What about Kobe's clutch shot vs. the Celtics in 2010, the same series he carried a team with two jammed fingers, and a swollen knee? What about carrying the Lakers vs the Spurs when Shaq couldn't? What about the clutch shot vs. Carmelo's Nuggets to tie the series? What about the fly-away shot against the Suns in the Western conference Finals? This is not even half of his performances. He had many outstanding playoff performances, the difference is Jordan just has more promotion. Plain and simple.
@@cobrachannel100 I'm "reaching" because I came back with memorable moments that ESPN, sports fans, and video bloggers all acknowledge are Kobe's greatest and most memorable moments? 😂 Not close to memorable to you, because you are a bias Jordan fan. That is cool. Lol. More people are starting to see how amazing Kobe was, compared to any player in history, and more are starting to call him the GOAT for a reason :)
Spot on Rap Dhillion no comparison the # are great I got to see them both the eye test Jordan was like something we will never see again the things he did to score were captivating and amazing He was Doc with better defense and Offence no weakness
And Kobe, Wade, Durant or whoever wouldn't be able to eclipse LeBron in Cleveland. It's hard to eclipse a legacy. There's no news here. LA is Kobe and Cleveland is LeBron. Wade is Miami. Tim Duncan is a Spur and Dirk is a Maverick. Etc...
SkankHunt42 Lebron has 3 Finals MVPs and Kobe has two. Kobe didn’t get carried by Shaq. He was the *2nd Best Player* on the Lakers at the time. That’s like saying Dwayne Wade was carried by Lebron or Pippen was carried by Jordan. It’s ridiculous. A Derek fisher carried by Shaq is reasonable. A Mario Chalmers carried by Lebron is reasonable. The 2nd best player on a team doesn’t get carried unless it’s a one man team. And Kobe was a top 10 player at the time Shaq was dominating and is a top 10 player of all time. *STOP THE NONSENSE.*
2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for a 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player than Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots ever and 3x sidekick isn't top 9 all time player 🐐Jordan > LeBron > Kobe Pippen 6 Rings > Kobe 5 Rings If having more team award rings means better player Pippen better than Kobe
Facts but if you are saying that one is better than the other don’t base your opinion 100% on stats because players plays different systems in different eras against different teams
Dude, stop bringing kobe's name up with lebron's drama. Kobe issued challenge to his teammates..he called their playing style soft against a very tough Boston squad which they were at the time. What was the result of Kobe's challenge to his teammates.. championships!! Chemistry with teammates...life long bond with Gasol his big brother. Stop trying to deflect heat off LeBron. LeBron is a bad teammate and because of people like yourselves who writes or talk fake narratives in his favor, its toxic being around this guy. He is to be blamed for alot of the current drama surrounding the organization. He is to be blame for alot of heat that his past teammates endured. True basketball fans know this; Stop trying to issue these fake narratives while trying to make leBron look good by bringing down other players. That is "soft"...bring the truth next time because real fans already know the truth too.
You wanna know whether Lebron is better than Kobe? There is one guy that can answer that and his name is Jack Nicholson. That dude literally stopped going to the Oracle arena after Kobe's retirement and don't forget that the guy has been to ALL Kobe games that he can actually attend. I don't think there is a bigger Lakers fan than that dude. I even think that guy is a bigger Lakers fan than Magic and Kareem A. J COMBINED! So, he will tell you all whether Kobe was above Lebron or NOT but personally, I think Kobe is above Lebron. The media did a good job thou, by pushing Lebron all the way up to #2 right now.
@@kennethpetovic4271 Sure, buddy. Oldest player to drop 60 points in his last game no player will ever do that again. Lebron is so much worse at shooting. Kobe is better then Lebron in every aspect of the game. And there are so many players that are better then Lebron from back in the day I could sit here and name so many players.
No one will ever come close to MJ, to be able to accomplish everything he did in only 11 full seasons with the BULLS, not to mention the exciting way he played the game, making it global and bringing attention from kids and women alike. I love how he will always be the measuring stick to every great generational player. That’s the GOAT’s legacy!
@@sangyang2627 Y’all saying “amen” like he’s f*cking Jesus. Just stop it, lol. Jordan is not untouchable. He is a human-being that failed, too. You guys totally wash away MJ getting sent home from the playoffs for 6 years straight in the 80s, getting knocked off by Shaq in 1995, retiring twice in his prime, coming back and not making the playoffs twice. He had 6 awesome years out of 15. First round exit, first round exit, first round exit, semi-finals exit, conference finals exit, conference finals exit, semi-finals exit, no playoffs, no playoffs again. Like, come on. Stop rewriting history.
@@NotebookLives Yup and he came in after 3 years of college same time Kobe was a 3x champ than had beef with Shaq tape case trash teams while MJ had a stacked roster his whole prime .
2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for a 23 points 2013 NBA Finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Game winning playoff buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player than Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots ever and 3x sidekick isn't top 9 all time player 🐐Jordan > LeBron > Kobe Pippen 6 Rings > Kobe 5 Rings If having more team award rings means better player Pippen better than Kobe
@@martinsmith7407 😴 almost put me to sleep there buddy but ill shut you down with an ugly simple 3 and 6 🤣🤣🤣 blah blahhh blahhh stats this stats that yet his so bad that he goes 3 and 6 you must be a joker lol
The media is trying to divide us as Lakers fans. But the real problem is Lebron fans, who have no respect for Kobe and his legacy. You can love Lebron and not disrespect this man. But they constantly call him the greatest laker ever even Before we get to the regular season. That’s why Kobe supporters don’t like him being here
Playboichris I’m not saying there aren’t Kobe fans that go to far. But the numbers aren’t even close. Lebron fans are the most problematic fan base in sports. Especially since they don’t really watch basketball games
He lacks the real "never give up" attitude of champions, too. You can see it in many clips where he straight up refuses to play defense because he's in a bad mood. He's great but his immaturity, selfishness and arrogance has always been an achilles heel.
LeBron will never be loved in L.A more than Kobe no matter what he does. Who are you going to trust and love more? Someone you knew for 20 years or 4? End of conversation, and debate. Stop waiting time watching these ESPN videos when you could do something else to help benefit you or other in your community. ESPN is the most disgraceful and disgusting sports channel. They come up with stupid arguments to cause people to argue with one another for no reason. Honestly it's getting to the point where it's pathetic and disturbing.
People keep pointing out the disrespect towards Kobe, but at least he tends to get mentioned a ton whenever MJ or LeBron are discussed. Meanwhile, Magic (5 titles, 3 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs, etc...) is often criminally ignored in the conversation.
Okay lol Worthy resume HOF 7X All Star 3 Rings 2x All NBA All Rookie 1 finals MVP Lebron Scoring title 3x NBA Champ 14x All NBA 6x all defensive Rookie of the year 3 finals mvp 4 MVPs Will finish his career probably number 1 in scoring as long as no tragic events happen and possibly top 5 in assists passing magic. That's a cute comment though.
@@spoonu9 ...I'm talking real team basketball...not no Ballhog, un-loyal, quit on ur team shit...but good job asking Siri for stats-it was a real cute try bro.
@@mr.thekidd498 oh yeah winning 8 straight conference championship and 3 NBA rings doesnt require team basketball. Oh okay. Your lack of understanding basketball is funny to me. Glad I throw down facts and you throw down... well nothing so far to back up your point lol
@@spoonu9 ...lol...u forgot Big Game James's college national c'ship AND being on Michael Jordans all time starting 5. And winning the East don't mean Shit. That's why Kyrie left, nobody wants to play with his selfish ass. So stick to social media and plz don't play pick up.
Lebron will never surpass Kobe anywhere and especially not at the Lakers, Kobe has accomplished so much for the Lakers that it's not even fair to bring up Lebron in the same category
I love what Max says in the beginning. As a lifelong Kobe fan that was 8 years old when he came into the league, I definitely though he'd become the greatest of all time but he truly never did eclipse Jordan. Got close, didn't do it, hell of a career. Good luck Lebron. I really look forward to you getting a couple titles in L.A.
Fucking idiot. LeBron is the best to have ever done it. He came back from a 3-1 lead against a 73-9 team and won. Not to mention that LeBron carried a lottery team to the finals twice. Without Shaq and the greatest coach of all time Kobe would have 0 rings.
Kobe was as good as Jordan, people just hate to admit it it so they bring out all Jordan’s stats against Kobe’s who were lower because he played with Shaq 8 seasons. I don’t care what anyone says, Jordan never had the kind of games Kobe had. Jordan was great for his era and Kobe was equally as great for his era. When Kobe scored 81 points in a single game it was the most unbelievable thing I ever witnessed. When Kobe scored 62 points in less than 3 quarters and outscored an entire team it proved he was the single most unstoppable player ever. The only thing Jordan accomplished over Kobe was DPOY award. All the other awards and titles Kobe has too. Only haters will try to belittle Kobe’s accomplishments. 25ppg, 33,000, points, 5 titles, and scoring games only wilt can say he did.
I agree with everything here but MJ is the GOAT. Kobe is up there for sure in the same level but MJ is the original. Kobe is the "reeeemixxxxx babaayyyyy" (Wayne style) ahhaha but seriously though. the original will always be the best. But when Kobe was "in the zone" or getting hot in a game; he was the most unstoppable shooting/scoring machine EVER. Only issue was it was kinda inconsistent. MJ was much more consistent. But hey MJ did say if there was ever a player who could beat him, it's the Mamba.
lethalfatality you have no credibility saying Kobe not better than Magic or Bird. To have a 3 to 1 lead playing with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker just proved my case. Jordan lost several times in the playoffs and he was considered the MVP. I guess Jordan not better than Magic or Bird too.
@@Mike1122. no one gives a shit about that hasbeen whens the last time you been outside Kobe hasn't been relevant for a decade 🤷♂️ forget goat! between magic west Kareem hes isnt even a top 3 lakers
A few month back after lebron got swept they admitted that lebron would never be than jordan. Now this argument all over again. This is just for rating. End this shit now. Lebron is great but he will never be jordan
Jacob Davis nope, if u look back at their discussion thats was one of the point. Mj would have never got swept. Lebron gave up on his team after game. They all admitted this in previous show and was the reason that lebron wil never be like jordan. Great player but no defend.
Goat for me means, you have personal challenges outside the sport and still finding a way to keep winning, when jordan quit in 94' /95 due to the tragedy that his father got shot and came back and win 96/97/98 championship rings its just a goat quality for me Not just looking for a better team
Kobe is great la3-6 is good Kobe sinks free throws on torn achellies and broken fingers and le3-6 can't do it healthy Kobe wants the rock in the last seconds while le3-6 gives it up Kobe knows how to play in systems while le3-6 plays pick up style last Kobe didn't jump ship to win and le3-6 did twice
“Kobe fans know what they saw” Yup. I know what I watched. As for the LA love, never more than Kobe. Even after the Dodgers won LA was still chanting Kobe’s name. He represented not just the stars of Hollywood but the blue collar hard work that makes up most of LA. True Los Angeles icon. Only Magic rivals the love Kobe gets in LA.
Kellerman is a disrespectful man who always has an agenda. This is the same man who accepted money to say Canelo dominated GGG. No integrity in this man.
Yet he always mentions Hakeem Olajuwon being better than Shaq while the rest of the media world ignores Hakeem's domination of centers throughout the 90s.
Max Kellerman says some stupid things sometimes. Did he just say Kobe Bryant in the early younger age was better than Michael Jordan in his early younger age? Shaking my head. I'm glad Steven a check from real quick on that
Kobe was in LA for 20 Years. LeBron doesn’t have enough time to surpass anything Kobe did. Kobe has too many rings there and had too many moments. Bottom line
Jordan might have the better resume on paper but I think we can all agree that Kobe faced stiffer competition. For years and years all of the Western Conference playoff teams were championship quality teams. Kobe beat all of them.
@@yugiyami8642 The only player that was injured was Kobe himself. Name one series the Lakers WON in which a star from the opposing team was out due to injury.... I watched all years, it didn't happen. You may have been born in the 1990s or 2000s and are too young to remember clearly. I will give you this, in 2002 the Kings series is talked about as having been affected by the refs. Seriously, name a Finals or CF in which the opposing star was out! DID NOT HAPPEN
@@KyleJett lmao 2010 nba finals. celtics center was injured which meant the paint was unprotected. 2009 nba finals orlando didn't have their top pg who was putting up incredible numbers but was injured, missing the finals. Lmao so that "it didn't happen" isn't true.
@@yugiyami8642"consistently facing teams that had injuries to their star nba players" Kendrick Perkins was a huge star.... missed only game 7 and in his place was Rasheed Wallace! Try Bynum missing the entire 2008 playoffs! hahahha you have no idea what you are talking about! Your example also doesn't speak to the consistent frequency you referenced earlier. By the way, those dudes aren't star players bro! hahahaha. The best players on Orlando were Hedo and Dwight and both were healthy! Since you were too young to watch, you better read up at least.
@@KyleJett Wallace wasn't in his prime and he barely played all that year, much less the playoffs. Orlando didn't have Nelson and Nelson was an all star so Idk what the hell you talking about when you say that Hedo and Dwight was all their stars because that's not true. Lmao I do know what I'm talking about, you just biased asf for the lakers.
Nobody can touch kobe's legacy in LAKERS, period
Agreed!
Kareem, Magic, and Shaq are above him.
@@SkankHunt-pv6oj Yes Kareem, maybe Shaq, but not magic over KOBE
@@sheldonlanghoff5490 stop using
Sheldon Langhoff your dumb
This was one of the most stupid discussions ever nobody in all LA will ever be loved more than Kobe Bean Bryant
Straight blasphemy
FACTS!!!!
Especially now
I’m a lakers fan but Kobe has a strong case along Kareem for the goat or even 2nd best all time
@@bean181 im not even a lakers fan and I agree with you. Magic should be mentioned as well. He was the heart and soul of LA in the 80s
The disrespect Kobe get is unreal...
perhaps this is why? deadspin.com/why-the-fuck-isnt-kobe-bryant-a-pariah-yet-1829494689
@@YesMyNameIsDonovan you do know that deadspin is owned by gawker, right!?
you know, the company that got bent over backwards by hulk Hogan...
probably not the best place to grab articles from....
Aww poor poor thing...🚼🌊🛀 Well thats too fuckin bad. I never heard you Kobe fans speak up for Bron when he was disrespected on Nat. TV with the puppet commercials. Stfu and sit down , winy ass niggas
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that's because they're Kobe fans, not LeBron fans...
you literally answered your own statement... =)
Need to put respect on Kobe's name
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Albert Pringle you a real one
deadass,ppl been disrespecting kobe ever since the suns series.but now it’s even worse,when u give credit to kobe and say he is top 6 ppl be sayin “he is overrated because he passed away”smh
Kobe Bryant played in the same era against arguably the greatest PF of all time did (Tim Duncan), in the same conference, and still got 5 rings 😑
kobe didnt beat a 73 win team
Draymond got suspended. If it wasn't for that lebrick would be 2-7.
latino doesn't have a rights to speak, go back to your poor country
@@latino914 sorry i don't understand despacito languae, what a shitty song
@@abdihassan6637
So Bron is discredited for having teamates play good? Lmao foh
We gon ignore Kobe shootin hella bricks in 2010 yet still gettin his ass saved with the ring cuz his team stepped up? Atleast in 2016 LeBron was still the top dog in each game.
So if MJ is only slightly better than kobe why are they repeatedly disrespecting Kobe?
Kc Raw 🤷🏾♂️ it goes MJ , Kobe , Lebron in that order. People need to stop, Lebron got espn in his pocket
Michael Jordan is more than just slightly better than Kobe.
Max is an idiot. Jordan is 10 times better than kobe
Kc Raw kobe barely top 10
Billy Forrest kobe is not even top 5
K.O.B.E. = King Of Basketball Everywhere 🐍 👑 🏀
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M.I.C.H.A.E.L = Most Iconic Champion Hoop Allstar ever (of the) league . lol.
When did Kobe ever take a bunch of buns to the finals
@@ducejohnson6390
When he threw a hotdog party?
David Benavidez lmao
Why you got a KD symbol
Quote: "Kobe was basically Jordan. Jordan was just a liiiiitle bit better." But Jordan was #1 but Kobe not even on the top 10 of all time??? What???? Man the disrespect...
They always disrespected kobe and discredit his championships. Idk why. I hate the media. They basically are saying he should have zero rings
100%
kobe is the most skilled player of all time, even beyond mj and lebron. He just needed to get the team involved and pass more lol.
I actually wanted to love that comment. ❤❤
@Coatesville Red Raiders When in God's name was Pau Gasol ever considered the best? Also, neither would have won without Kobe, Shaq would of lost to the Blazers if it weren't for Kobe, but the only takeaway from that game is the alley-oop and not the fact that Kobe beat Shaq in every single statistic and pushed the Lakers to comeback in the 4th quarter, go watch that game, he made Scottie Pippen, an all-time great defender look like a scrub at the age of 20.
bruh stop tryna divide the fan base.. media lowkey dislike kobe lol
It's so clear smh
Facts.
They brainwash ppl is as good or better than Jordan. When anyone over the age of 26 and that has actually watched Jordan knows that's a lie
*highkey
Kobe LOST son facts
LeBron better hope he could get Shaq type love at BEST.
Kobe and Magic are untouchables in L.A.
Like Jordan is an untouchable in Basketball
True dat he should get that Shaq love if ntn else
FAXX.
Jordan is boof
Lebron doesn’t even deserve Shaq-type love, not even close.
he cant because shaq like kobe, was a fucking killer.. different way but he dominated.. lebron just is not that dude. great player, but he dont have kobe mindeset, hes not a homebred talent.
fans pick lebron,
nba legends pick kobe.
What? There are multiple legends that pick Lebron over Kobe
Joshua Castillejos Julius Erving? Drexler? Robertson? Magic? Isiah Thomas? Do I even need to continue?
Joshua Castillejos jerry west???? Like what
90% NBA legends,Former NBA Players,and Current NBA players pick Kobe Bryant Over your Lebum
@@princeofwar4551 Yep for sure like Jordan, iverson,tmac,barkely, the list goes on absolute best players and really it should only matter what one player says and Jordan said it plain as day from the man's mouth only kobe can be compared to him.
This should even be a conversation cause Kobe was loyal to the lakers 20 years never went to another team even when he had bums on his side he still stood with the lakers lebron is not loyal so he never be Kobe in los angels never
Well said.
He almost did leave LA
@@sneek115 "Almost left" is not the same as leaving. It's not even close to being the same thing.
he did demand a trade but thats cause the front office wasn't treating him and giving him what he deserved. but he stayed that's what matters. he was still loyal to purple and gold. jeannie buss even teared up during kobe's jersey retirement thanking him for staying even tho it really wouldve been easier for him to leave. u can tell she was very grateful for that.
Kobe stayed and waited for championships. And he got 5. Unlike lebron who needs to leave to get 2 shitless rings
Kobe is a laker legend... lebron is just passing thru it really doesn’t matter how many championships he wins
Just passing thru?
Any championships he wins in LA will only further his own legacy. Max is delusional
so you don't care if the lakers dethrone the warriors ? and then we blame nick wright for saying what he says about the kobe cult not really being laker fans .
Were Wilt and kareem just passing through? Or did they have an incredible impact on the Lakers?
Kobe fans are getting as weird and stupid as MJ fans now.
Duh. Lebron doesn't have enough time to do that and kobe been with the Lakers since he was 18
Exactly. I don't know why whenever people bring up brons name there has to be some weird conspiracy or wild thought attached. People gotta just let things ride out first lol
That won't matter. All it takes is Lebron to beat the Warriors in LA to eclipse Kobe. He already eclipses Kobe without LA.
@@lexhobbs1050 LoL u LeBron fans are delusional, u act like Kobe don't have 5 rings as a Laker!!!
@@lexhobbs1050 Kobe has more rings and never left his team to do it so how does lebron eclipse him? Kobe the closest thing we seen to Jordan.
@@stephencornelious
Kobe wasn't the best player on more than half of the championships he won
Kobe dropped 60 in his last game no player will ever do that again.
No one will be allowed to travel 10 times in the same game like that again
no one will be able to take 50 shots and go 6-21 from 3 again
He went 22/50 and 6/21 from three,just about any player could score 60 if you give them 50 shots.
What is your point he actually won the game best player to play the game
No-one will pass 81 points either
Whats next..LeBron used the same toilet as Kobe.. anything to bring up Lebron
He’s going to wear the same underwear as Kobe.
RIGHT!
Anthony S that's what happens when you sign LeBron...good luck with it...watch when they report LeBron took the same dump like Kobe 😂😂
The Lakers won their first game. You know that Kobe played with that same ball that Lebron played with tonight not 5 years ago. Message.
Man for reap these guys are mad stupid
Kobe gave the Lakers his life
No way! Kobe was a soldier. He played through numerous injuries, continued shooting free throws after he popped his Achilles in half, helped win us 3 rings, won us 2 rings, gave us 81 Vs. Toronto and 60 in his last game...Ducked a rape case, won a Emmy and has a purple and gold 64 Impala on switches....
kobe was great but pleaaseeee no need to mention his last game, clearly staged, nobody cared defending him
Won an Oscar*
A soldier haha stupid
Ducked a Rape Case😭😭😭😹
poop dolla. kobgoate he aint Duck it if he got it😹😹😹he Maintained it😹😹😹💯
Minus Kobe the 2005-2006 Lakers had a worse roster than this 2019 team and went 45-37 and all the way to the WCF’s. Kobe was an absolute killer competitor and never stood around and watched like LeBron..
Infidel Lives Matter preach
Different style of play and and the league is waayyy better now. Kobe couldnt make anything happen by himself in this warriors era league if he was still in his 16 season..and I agree LeBron watches sometimes but he's just a different type of player than mj and Kobe. And that's what in the end is gonna separate himself from everyone else and make him the G.O.A.T
The Lakers lost in Game 7 in the first round of 2006. They blew a 3-1 lead :(
Zachary Warner Oh my did this nigga say the league is better nowadays???
Im dead 💀💀💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣
Infedel Lives Matter LeBron has carried a lottery team to the finals twice. Kobe has never done that and the 06 Lakers wouldn't have made the playoffs they didn't have the greatest coach of all time. You just overrate Kobe and can't admit that he is not on LeBron's level.
Lebron will never be better than Kobe in a Lakers uniform
And I don't think LeBron does either. How old is LeBron again? 35? Mamba was with the Lakers ALL of his NBA career. He started ascended and ruled, so no comparison whatsoever (tenure, longevity, loyalty etc), now talent-wise, is debatable
False cuz he already is lebrons stats and making it to the finals 9 straight yrs in a row with no help proves that he’s better hands sown lbj is obviously better than Kobe
The Ahm3n the east was weak
Foh. How many MVPs Kobe got again?
The Ahm3n Kobe beat more 50 win teams in the playoffs then Bron or MJ. Stop acting like LeBron was facing top tier competition. He would be a first out in the West and at best a second. That’s just how good the west was in comparison. Stop using bad strawmans please.
I grew up loving Kobe and the Lakers. No amount of greatness can replace that.
Broomed twice in the finals with 3-6 finals record #EclipseMyAss
Nalin Shukla didnt he lose 4 times? Kobe only lost twice.
People saying lebron went to the finals 9 times makes them so fuckig dumb. Like in boxing you can punch as many as you want but the criteria is still the percentage of the punch. kobe is 5-2 lebron however os 3-6. Lebron better throw those rings he had that’s not real hardwork that’s a fucking result of piggyback riding in others hardwork. Get the fuck outta here you don’t know shit
Literally had to join the teams that won him championships he didn't win any
@@hulaanmo97 Kobe has 5 because he got carried by Shaq for 3 and had the greatest coach of all time for all of his championships. Kobe would have 0 without them.
@@hulaanmo97 Kobe had the greatest coach of all time for all of his championships.
It’s okay to love Kobe and to be happy that LeBron is in LA 👈🏻
Well sry i am not.the floper will kill the rooster...trust me!
Nope Letrash is not a winner like Kobe
Kevin Joad Kobe was a winner and I love Kobe! On the other hand LeBron has won 3 could have won 4 if Irving and Love weren’t out that first time against GS. I am happy to have him and really hoping for the right player to come next year! Go Lakers!!!
Michelle Smith Facts💯
Show some love lul
You can't compare the 2!
Kobe was an ALL time LAKER!!! Lebron hops from team to team looking for ways to win more rings.
He went back to the shitty cavs to give them a ring. Smh
LeGoat JaGoat he bounced when he lost a chip. He put a superteam together on the cavs and still lost. He traded away the future of the cavs and forced out kyrie. Same with LA. They traded their young core for 1 guy. As soon as AD or Bron leaves the Lakers are back to where they were 5 years ago.
LeGoat JaGoat he also did the same with Miami. Only thing was they got lucky in draft half a decade after he was gone.
@@PyroPuffs777 when you are calling the 2016 cavs a superteam, you are a hater
@@Dedi27hjk Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving were not chumps. That was a super team. Don’t lie to yourself.
There's something about being a life long Laker, and a champion that is hard to emalute.
Best player to watch :Kobe
Best player ever:Jordan
Stats says : LeBron
Man LeBron isn't close to Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan
Peace
MambaOut
FLUTISTAN huge Facts.
💯
stfu
Flutistan you a dumbass. The stats don't lie LeBron is the best basketball player ever.
best player to watch is Kobe and mj.
He's not using Kobe's locker... They reworked the locker room and the locker is near where Kobe's locker was. C'mon guys. Don't change the narrative.
Lebron will never ever be as great or even greater than Kobe in Los Angeles. I grew up watching Kobe. I know it sounds ridiculous to say, but he's like family to a lot of us. We celebrated his milestones, his championships and cried with him during the most difficult times. We saw him grow up, build a family, retire, reinvent himself, and etc. There will never be another Kobe Bryant in LA.
He is family :)
Kb824
Kobe is the best player I've ever watched forget the numbers my eyes tell me kobe in my opinion is the best player to lace em up
Anthony 0893 that’s your opinion and I respect that I’m a big lebron fan and think the best ever in my eyes but come on I use to scream kobe before shootin everything lmao kobe was special
we might not b lookn thru the same eyes, but we saw the same thing. greatness
Lol i feel the same exact way about LeBron except LeBrons numbers back it up
SoDedicated6 LeBron never gets triple teamed, not bn defended by gr8 defenders every game, & there's not many gr8 sf 2 defend.
Ken Bolden bro they always shift to lebron the defense schemes be primarily on lebron everytime he drives people go on lebron other people be wide open on his team
kobe bryant's legacy in the lakers are not just his rings with the lakers..its his
whole career with the franchise and the fans. He went from being a cocky young player who was benched for the first 3 years, to be the second in command in the laker-3 peat, then to a villain for kicking Shaq off the team, as well as becoming the most hated man for the rape charges, and then faught his way back to be the best player he can and won 2 more championship for the lakers. His career went through a roller-coaster. The fans also went through a roller coaster from having high expectations of him, to hated him and then to accept him again as their franchise player.
Lebron is just happen to be another player to take a stop at the lakers and trying to get some.
The clutch factor the never quit and I can do anything I want at anytime I want in this bitch
@@alldubs6764 Kobe def quit against the Suns but Kobe is still better than Bron
@@shinsukecorbin425 they said he shoot to much so he proved a point of if I dont shoot we dont compete. But I get wat your sayin
Lebron is "just another player" ?
Only person that can stop Kobe was Dale Harris
I am a die hard Kobe fan.. I grew up with Kobe... I never thought he was better than Jordan.. I can say that Kobe could take him.. but never better.. Kobe styled his game after Jordan (and a few others).
You're too logical to be a kobe fan.
Kobe will be forever be the ultimate laker #8 #24 #MambaOut
FOESHOW
Kobe's my guy he is Laker Nation. 5 rings yes he apart of Laker Legends.
Mr. Franklin Jackson why not shaq cus without him kobe has two rings 😂
@@kalix975 how many did Shaq get without kobe? Hahaha yeah, put some respect on his name
Uuugggghhhh?🤔....magic has 5 rings and Kareem has 6
@@traslenpatterson3478 kareem has 5 rings in la lakers and 1 ring in Bucks. In lakers he was mostly carried by magic.
@@kalix975 what about shaq ? shaq turned fat af and lazy washed up af and won 1 ring only because of d wade
KOBEEEEEEE FOR LIFEEEE
Only kid trolls will tell you Lebron is already better than Kobe as a laker. Nobody can or will replace Kobe as a basketball player or a laker specifically period. Kobe's accolades speak for themselves. The facts on him alone put Kobe towards the top of the all time list. Lebron lacks in hella areas when context is added to the stats LeEspn, Max, Shannon, and Nick wrong shove down our throats every day. So to make Lebron look better, they tear down past legacies to boost Lebron. It's pathetic that this is even being discussed..
MrAVGNdude Kobe is top 20 while lebron is top 5 and arguably the goat
I think its the opposite, Lebron has had a better career individually, and we got stop looking a rings as the main factor because its a team game. Lebron choked against Dallas, but LA was more of a favorite when they lost in 5 games to Pistons. This Kobe talk has just started a couple years ago as he is better than Lebron, that's just him and MJ feeling threatened by Lebron. MJ is a better ball player than lebron, but not a better team mate or role model.
Kobe doesn't get nearly the love that LeBron does. They hold so much against him because he played with Shaq. Through good and bad seasons, Kobe was a Laker. LeBron left his city twice. And No one talks about it. It ain't nothing LeBron can do in 4 years that Kobe has already done in 20 with one team. Even if he wins a championship.
MrAVGNdude that’s why Stephen a days that it will never happen and u call them lespn more like kobespn haha but I’m the goat
+Londre Gilley better teammate without elevating anyone's game. Who does LeBron make bettter?
I'm from Chicago I was raised to see Jordan and live games and Kobe and Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan he is to clutch and to alike as sit Jordan. Kobe is Kobe
Lebron James will never be anything close to Kobe
Only teenagers think Lebron is better all time than Kobe lol
people in their 20s, 30s, and beyond who watched whole careers of both players will tell you Kobe was better despite having more competition in the western conference his whole career, its just that most of these people, myself included, don't care to debate with those teenagers on social media so you always see lebron fans disgracing Kobe and MJ without many people disputing their points
I'm 34 and so I've gotten the chance to see Jordan, Kobe and LeBron in their primes but I have to disagree with you, LeBron is better than Kobe. I think Jordan is still better than LeBron though.
FACTS BRO KOBE WILL ALWAYS B BETTER THAN LEBROOM
Everybody just hate Kobe on a personal level lol. They take that and make it seem like his 5 championships didn't exist or something lmao.
You are 200% right man!
Kobe didn't have a Golden State Warriors to go through..
Why can't lebron james just come to LA without being compared to these laker greats. These sports analytics really try to cause problems between these athletes and their fanbases and it's sad
uhhhjosh it all comes with the sport
Because of brontards
That's what Im saying he always gotta prove him self to these dick heads
Cuz it's la la land
Cuz it’s Lebron. He can’t wipe his ads without making espn
Kobe 5 Ring's with 1 team. LeBron lol. Please stop. Not that kind of love in Los Angeles
LA is Kobe town. I hope they trade lebron.
Kyle Jett trade him for booker
Me too!! #Giannis
I agree to, let's get rid of the queen
@@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq Please God!
@@DeySaidDat2 Trade him for anyone!!! Money and picks, anything! Just get rid of this bum so we can watch Lakers games again!
Kobe is top 10 player, maybe even top 5. But Kobe, by far, has the greatest NBA story of all time. The ups and downs, roller coaster of feelings, legendary performances from kid to adult, the tragic downfall. His career was literally a sports movie.
"LeBron James will never eclipse Kobe Bryant in L.A." --well duh! in LA! Why are they even talking about it haha
Gray _ he won’t eclipse Kobe in general
MexicanMamba 1 why so
MexicanMamba 1 he already has bud
@Bruno Sousa only mj who think kobe is better than lebron. And we all know why
Kobe is the GOAT.
Idiot.
I watched Kobe, Jordan, and Lebron...neither of these players had me in awe more than Kobe. Scratch stats, accolades, and championships...we are talking putting on a SHOW for the fans...what has either player done, performance wise, that Kobe hasn't done, or done better?
Kobe was my Jordan. I only got to watch Jordan's last year with the wizards. And its obvious that kobe gets majority of his game from jordan since in his eyes jordan is the best. Thats the reason why nobody puts kobe before jordan. Lebron before kobe is ridiculous.
How many game winning shots does Kobe have in the Finals or playoffs? Or memorable moments to compare to MJ in the playoffs? Here are a few off the top of my head: Switch hand layup, shot over Ehlo, 63 against the Celtics in the Garden, The Shrug, averaging 41pts per game against the Suns in 93, insane game 4 against the Knicks in 93, the shot 2 the same season, game winner and Flu games in 97 Finals, and oviously the shot over Bryon Russell in 98 to win it all. I am pretty sure I am forgetting a few but please stop it. MJ had the most iconinc moments and some. Was asbolutely aestetically the most beautiful basketball player to ever walk this earth and it is not even close. And no disrespect to Kobe. He was great... But not in the same stratosphere as MJ, the god.
@@cobrachannel100 Really? Ok, what about the comeback from 20 vs the Trailblazers..in the 4th quarter in 2001, while Shaq had only 11 pts most of the game? What about the game-tying and game-winning shot vs the Suns? What about Kobe's clutch shot vs. the Celtics in 2010, the same series he carried a team with two jammed fingers, and a swollen knee? What about carrying the Lakers vs the Spurs when Shaq couldn't? What about the clutch shot vs. Carmelo's Nuggets to tie the series? What about the fly-away shot against the Suns in the Western conference Finals? This is not even half of his performances. He had many outstanding playoff performances, the difference is Jordan just has more promotion. Plain and simple.
@@AriesMarquis You are reaching here my friend. Not even close to memorable. But you are ofcourse entitled to your opinion. :)
@@cobrachannel100 I'm "reaching" because I came back with memorable moments that ESPN, sports fans, and video bloggers all acknowledge are Kobe's greatest and most memorable moments? 😂 Not close to memorable to you, because you are a bias Jordan fan. That is cool. Lol. More people are starting to see how amazing Kobe was, compared to any player in history, and more are starting to call him the GOAT for a reason :)
But Stephen A’s hairline will eclipse the back of his head
Bryan Figueroa I’m dead 😂😂
Bryan Figueroa Stephen A is working on a bun
Brooo!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Lmao this is too funny
Future ESPN headline! Pun intend lol
MJ’s first five years in the NBA
1. 28.2 /6.5r/5.9a
2. 22.7/ 3.6r / 2.9a
3. 37.1 / 5.2r / 4.6a
4. 35. / 5.5r / 5.9a
5. 32.3 / 8 / 8
Max really?
mj 21yo, kobe 18yo
@@Itielreyes soo??? Even of we compare 21 ye old mj to 21 yr old kobe.. mj still wins.. so what is ur argument again?
Rap Dhillon I’m sure he’s talking about age....
Spot on Rap Dhillion no comparison the # are great I got to see them both the eye test Jordan was like something we will never see again the things he did to score were captivating and amazing He was Doc with better defense and Offence no weakness
mj has better stats in his rookie season than kobe did in his mvp season
And Kobe, Wade, Durant or whoever wouldn't be able to eclipse LeBron in Cleveland. It's hard to eclipse a legacy. There's no news here. LA is Kobe and Cleveland is LeBron. Wade is Miami. Tim Duncan is a Spur and Dirk is a Maverick. Etc...
jdoggmusicman I gotta disagree LeBron brought Cleveland one title. Did u see the team Kobe won back 2 back titles with ?
@@jaylee8429 lol if kobe played for Cleveland he wouldn't have any rings
@@iwiwwh2002wtf is funny that's false he won back to back with Gasol and Fisher. I think he would've faired well with Kyrie and Love. The jokes on u.
SHIT CURRY OWNS CLEVELAND HE WON MORE CHIPS IN CLEVELAND THAN ANYONE !!
Larry Bird or Bill Russell is Boston, not Pierce, but i understand you were trying to use more recent star players.
Change the title to Lebron James will never eclipse Kobe Bryant ever.
SkankHunt42 Did Lebron win?
SkankHunt42 Kobe didn’t go against scrubs either.
SkankHunt42 Also with your coaching argument, Lebron has Pat Riley in Miami. And last time I checked Pat Time is an all time coach.
SkankHunt42 Lebron has 3 Finals MVPs and Kobe has two. Kobe didn’t get carried by Shaq. He was the *2nd Best Player* on the Lakers at the time. That’s like saying Dwayne Wade was carried by Lebron or Pippen was carried by Jordan. It’s ridiculous. A Derek fisher carried by Shaq is reasonable. A Mario Chalmers carried by Lebron is reasonable. The 2nd best player on a team doesn’t get carried unless it’s a one man team. And Kobe was a top 10 player at the time Shaq was dominating and is a top 10 player of all time. *STOP THE NONSENSE.*
SkankHunt42 The Mamba bit the King bro
Kobe gave Lakers 20 years, naw he can't eclipse him there du. Why is this even a question?
Only reason LeBron gets the mj comparisons over Kobe is cause social media
2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for a 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player than Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Career highs
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots ever and 3x sidekick isn't top 9 all time player
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Kobe
Pippen 6 Rings > Kobe 5 Rings
If having more team award rings means better player Pippen better than Kobe
Facts lmao
@@josephstevens228 All that don't mean shit when you 3-6 in the finals
Facts but if you are saying that one is better than the other don’t base your opinion 100% on stats because players plays different systems in different eras against different teams
@@josephstevens228 Got saved by ray allen & kyrie game winning shots
Dude, stop bringing kobe's name up with lebron's drama. Kobe issued challenge to his teammates..he called their playing style soft against a very tough Boston squad which they were at the time. What was the result of Kobe's challenge to his teammates.. championships!! Chemistry with teammates...life long bond with Gasol his big brother.
Stop trying to deflect heat off LeBron. LeBron is a bad teammate and because of people like yourselves who writes or talk fake narratives in his favor, its toxic being around this guy. He is to be blamed for alot of the current drama surrounding the organization. He is to be blame for alot of heat that his past teammates endured. True basketball fans know this; Stop trying to issue these fake narratives while trying to make leBron look good by bringing down other players. That is "soft"...bring the truth next time because real fans already know the truth too.
Sorry for ruining 81
you call Lebron a bad teammate yet he actually passes the ball, unlike MJ and Kobe
You wanna know whether Lebron is better than Kobe? There is one guy that can answer that and his name is Jack Nicholson. That dude literally stopped going to the Oracle arena after Kobe's retirement and don't forget that the guy has been to ALL Kobe games that he can actually attend.
I don't think there is a bigger Lakers fan than that dude. I even think that guy is a bigger Lakers fan than Magic and Kareem A. J COMBINED!
So, he will tell you all whether Kobe was above Lebron or NOT but personally, I think Kobe is above Lebron. The media did a good job thou, by pushing Lebron all the way up to #2 right now.
How can Lebron Eclipse Kobe , Kobe is the goat
GOAT OF MOST MISSED SHOTS...
@@kennethpetovic4271 Sure, buddy. Oldest player to drop 60 points in his last game no player will ever do that again. Lebron is so much worse at shooting. Kobe is better then Lebron in every aspect of the game. And there are so many players that are better then Lebron from back in the day I could sit here and name so many players.
@@mgvolts1140 WELL SHIT ANYBODY CAN DROP 60 IF YOUR TEAM LETS YOU SHOOT EVERY SHOT.😂😂
@@mgvolts1140 IF KOLBE IS BETTER THAN LeGOAT JAMES WHY THE LAKERS TRY TRADING HIS TRASH ASS FROM LAKERS TO CLEVELAND BACK IN 2007.🤔🤔🤔
Idiot we all know that LeBron is the greatest of all time.
No one will ever come close to MJ, to be able to accomplish everything he did in only 11 full seasons with the BULLS, not to mention the exciting way he played the game, making it global and bringing attention from kids and women alike. I love how he will always be the measuring stick to every great generational player. That’s the GOAT’s legacy!
Amen bro
Man how is this shit even relevant to the video??
@@sangyang2627 Y’all saying “amen” like he’s f*cking Jesus. Just stop it, lol. Jordan is not untouchable. He is a human-being that failed, too. You guys totally wash away MJ getting sent home from the playoffs for 6 years straight in the 80s, getting knocked off by Shaq in 1995, retiring twice in his prime, coming back and not making the playoffs twice. He had 6 awesome years out of 15. First round exit, first round exit, first round exit, semi-finals exit, conference finals exit, conference finals exit, semi-finals exit, no playoffs, no playoffs again. Like, come on. Stop rewriting history.
Stacked in his whole prime kobe only 6 years Kobe with Shaq 11 years he'd have 7
@@NotebookLives Yup and he came in after 3 years of college same time Kobe was a 3x champ than had beef with Shaq tape case trash teams while MJ had a stacked roster his whole prime .
Kobe over Lebron any day.
in what? regular season game winners?
💍💍💍💍💍>💍💍💍
@@lleytonforster5560 Pippen > Kobe then
@@Domeo_Divine no I meant kobe which has 5 is greater than lebrons 3 and u roasted the other guy when he said kobe 'OVER' LeBron so 5/3
@@lleytonforster5560 Pippen has 6/ kobe has 5 so...Pippen is better than Kobe 6>5
Give at least half injuries Kobe had to lbj and watch him on the sideline cuz he's a queen..a high maintenance one..
iKON RETURN carried by shaq
Kalix Patrick never. LBJ was carried literally off the court 🙄
Lechoke doesnt belong with the Lakers
Big facts!
Kobe is the king 👑 of la
🐐🐐🐐👌🏾
Magic Johnson
@@MrIncredibleGuy THANK YOU!!!
@@Bryonic-xb6ol WHO?
Lebron cannot and will not get to "Kobe level"
MrAVGNdude thank u ur not stupid
2010 NBA Finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for a 23 points
2013 NBA Finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Game winning playoff buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player than Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Career highs
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots ever and 3x sidekick isn't top 9 all time player
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Kobe
Pippen 6 Rings > Kobe 5 Rings
If having more team award rings means better player Pippen better than Kobe
@@martinsmith7407 😴 almost put me to sleep there buddy but ill shut you down with an ugly simple 3 and 6 🤣🤣🤣 blah blahhh blahhh stats this stats that yet his so bad that he goes 3 and 6 you must be a joker lol
John Ocampo team game u dumbass 😂😂
@@JohnjOcampo
I'm not reading what you write Kobetard 😂
There's not even a chance no one can replace Kobe in LA most my life I've always thought they were the same thing
LeBron James Retire / You never be like M.J or Black Mamba so stop trying you will never ever get to there level
Facts... he’s above their level
The media is trying to divide us as Lakers fans. But the real problem is Lebron fans, who have no respect for Kobe and his legacy. You can love Lebron and not disrespect this man. But they constantly call him the greatest laker ever even Before we get to the regular season. That’s why Kobe supporters don’t like him being here
Pretty much. The most toxic fan base of 12 year olds in the history of sports.
So you gon ignore the Kobe fans that do the same thing?
Talk when lebron takes dem back to greatness
So you disregarding the disrespectful kobe fans that didn’t even want lbj in la and trashed every mural of him in la
Playboichris I’m not saying there aren’t Kobe fans that go to far. But the numbers aren’t even close. Lebron fans are the most problematic fan base in sports. Especially since they don’t really watch basketball games
Tired of these discussion. Lebron will never be better than Kobe let alone MJ. The most important characteristic he lacks, is the killer instinct.
He lacks the real "never give up" attitude of champions, too. You can see it in many clips where he straight up refuses to play defense because he's in a bad mood. He's great but his immaturity, selfishness and arrogance has always been an achilles heel.
dpend kobe had so much “killer instinct” he didn’t do shit when chris childs gave him a 3pc
Wow why so much hate for lebron James, most of these hater I mad cause they haven't make it out of the hood.Mike was great, Kobe great too so LBJ
He’s been better than Kobe
@@kalix975 did u just try to insinuate that Kobe didn't have a killer instinct?
If Kobe was in the east with bosh wade and then having Kyrie and Love he would’ve been to the finals 15 times and would’ve had more rings as well 💯
Jay Tillah ninja that’s no doubt. I’m tired of Bronsexuals..:
LeBron will never be loved in L.A more than Kobe no matter what he does. Who are you going to trust and love more? Someone you knew for 20 years or 4? End of conversation, and debate. Stop waiting time watching these ESPN videos when you could do something else to help benefit you or other in your community. ESPN is the most disgraceful and disgusting sports channel. They come up with stupid arguments to cause people to argue with one another for no reason. Honestly it's getting to the point where it's pathetic and disturbing.
People keep pointing out the disrespect towards Kobe, but at least he tends to get mentioned a ton whenever MJ or LeBron are discussed. Meanwhile, Magic (5 titles, 3 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs, etc...) is often criminally ignored in the conversation.
You forgot Most inefficient scorer ever
LeBron ain't even better than
James Worthy.
...LEBRON is barely better than molly, plus he cry more!!!💯😁
Okay lol
Worthy resume
HOF
7X All Star
3 Rings
2x All NBA
All Rookie
1 finals MVP
Lebron
Scoring title
3x NBA Champ
14x All NBA
6x all defensive
Rookie of the year
3 finals mvp
4 MVPs
Will finish his career probably number 1 in scoring as long as no tragic events happen and possibly top 5 in assists passing magic.
That's a cute comment though.
@@spoonu9 ...I'm talking real team basketball...not no Ballhog, un-loyal, quit on ur team shit...but good job asking Siri for stats-it was a real cute try bro.
@@mr.thekidd498 oh yeah winning 8 straight conference championship and 3 NBA rings doesnt require team basketball. Oh okay.
Your lack of understanding basketball is funny to me.
Glad I throw down facts and you throw down... well nothing so far to back up your point lol
@@spoonu9 ...lol...u forgot Big Game James's college national c'ship AND being on Michael Jordans all time starting 5.
And winning the East don't mean Shit. That's why Kyrie left, nobody wants to play with his selfish ass. So stick to social media and plz don't play pick up.
Lebron will never surpass Kobe anywhere and especially not at the Lakers, Kobe has accomplished so much for the Lakers that it's not even fair to bring up Lebron in the same category
I love what Max says in the beginning. As a lifelong Kobe fan that was 8 years old when he came into the league, I definitely though he'd become the greatest of all time but he truly never did eclipse Jordan. Got close, didn't do it, hell of a career. Good luck Lebron. I really look forward to you getting a couple titles in L.A.
Of course he can't. Why is this even a topic? Yall stay disrespecting Kobe.
Lebron is overrated because he plays in the East....Look at now what happen when he's in the West.....
So true love it
Asssssh!!!!
Too cold maaan!!!
Fucking idiot. LeBron is the best to have ever done it. He came back from a 3-1 lead against a 73-9 team and won. Not to mention that LeBron carried a lottery team to the finals twice. Without Shaq and the greatest coach of all time Kobe would have 0 rings.
@@SkankHunt-pv6oj jordan never went 7 games so fuck lebron
@Chris Spencer if he's injured, what you want him to do? lmao what is wrong with you
Max is from the streets too u know
Lebron Will Never Pass Kobe
🗣THAT TITLE FACTZ💯🤷🏾
Kobe was as good as Jordan, people just hate to admit it it so they bring out all Jordan’s stats against Kobe’s who were lower because he played with Shaq 8 seasons. I don’t care what anyone says, Jordan never had the kind of games Kobe had. Jordan was great for his era and Kobe was equally as great for his era. When Kobe scored 81 points in a single game it was the most unbelievable thing I ever witnessed. When Kobe scored 62 points in less than 3 quarters and outscored an entire team it proved he was the single most unstoppable player ever. The only thing Jordan accomplished over Kobe was DPOY award. All the other awards and titles Kobe has too. Only haters will try to belittle Kobe’s accomplishments. 25ppg, 33,000, points, 5 titles, and scoring games only wilt can say he did.
I agree with everything here but MJ is the GOAT. Kobe is up there for sure in the same level but MJ is the original. Kobe is the "reeeemixxxxx babaayyyyy" (Wayne style) ahhaha but seriously though. the original will always be the best. But when Kobe was "in the zone" or getting hot in a game; he was the most unstoppable shooting/scoring machine EVER. Only issue was it was kinda inconsistent. MJ was much more consistent. But hey MJ did say if there was ever a player who could beat him, it's the Mamba.
Jordan!! Kobe not even better than magic or bird 81! if he so unstoppable how he blow a 3- 1 lead in the 1st round?
lethalfatality you have no credibility saying Kobe not better than Magic or Bird. To have a 3 to 1 lead playing with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker just proved my case. Jordan lost several times in the playoffs and he was considered the MVP. I guess Jordan not better than Magic or Bird too.
@@Mike1122. no one gives a shit about that hasbeen whens the last time you been outside Kobe hasn't been relevant for a decade 🤷♂️ forget goat! between magic west Kareem hes isnt even a top 3 lakers
lethalfatality I guess Jordan, magic and Bird haven’t been relevant for 2 decades. You don’t know a thing about sports. Look at your stupid name.
LABRON JAMES IS A JOKE COMPARED TO KOBE BRYANT. 😑😑😑
Kobe is a ballhog and can't win without Phil Jackson.
SkankHunt42 your a idiot Kobe is just good was the best on his team for years so I would be doing all the shooting myself
Bob Suma Carmelo is no where near Kobe’s level
You sound stupid
Faith Lovely facts tho
Dude how can he do that when he’s like 35 Kobe has been there forever
No way possible he can pass Kobe in LA.. 5 championships come on now this is just ridiculous...
Rest Easy Momba
A few month back after lebron got swept they admitted that lebron would never be than jordan. Now this argument all over again. This is just for rating. End this shit now. Lebron is great but he will never be jordan
Eduardo Velazquez Ppl forgot LeBron just got swept 4-0 in the playoffs! Lmao
July Stylez he did but I dont think jordan would win in the same situation. Swap lebron with jordan and he is getting swept too
Jacob Davis nope, if u look back at their discussion thats was one of the point. Mj would have never got swept. Lebron gave up on his team after game. They all admitted this in previous show and was the reason that lebron wil never be like jordan. Great player but no defend.
These two fools are bak at it again 😂😂😂
Goat for me means, you have personal challenges outside the sport and still finding a way to keep winning, when jordan quit in 94' /95 due to the tragedy that his father got shot and came back and win 96/97/98 championship rings its just a goat quality for me
Not just looking for a better team
Who will you pick Kobe or lebron ? Me Kobe 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Kobe
Kobe has 5 chips with The Lakers... FIVE! Think about that. I love Lebron but he's not eclipsing shit from Kobe.
LA is Kobe’s city, Cleveland is Lebron’s city. Period. But Lebron will still be loved in LA if he delivers rings. Both players are great!!
EVEN IF HE DELIVERS A RING ITS STILL FUCK LEBROOM WE DONT NEED OR WANT HIM HERE IN LA
Kobe is great la3-6 is good Kobe sinks free throws on torn achellies and broken fingers and le3-6 can't do it healthy Kobe wants the rock in the last seconds while le3-6 gives it up Kobe knows how to play in systems while le3-6 plays pick up style last Kobe didn't jump ship to win and le3-6 did twice
@Rasuke11 false
“Kobe fans know what they saw” Yup. I know what I watched. As for the LA love, never more than Kobe. Even after the Dodgers won LA was still chanting Kobe’s name. He represented not just the stars of Hollywood but the blue collar hard work that makes up most of LA. True Los Angeles icon. Only Magic rivals the love Kobe gets in LA.
Kobe is Mike and LeBron is Magic. LeBron wears Jordan's number and plays in Kobes jersey and now has the same locker. Just pointing out facts 😎
Wow, your right. Its sad.
He wears MJ #23, STOLE MJ POWDER ROUTINE B4 GAMES BUT KOBE THE ONLY BE LIKE MIKE KID YEAH RIGHT, BLAMES WILL NEVER BE ON MJ OR KOBE LEVEL PERIOD!!
Mac Gainz ...James isn't anywhere near Johnson, PERIOD!!!
Lebron will never pass kobe in LA, and personally I don't think he will ever actually be better than kobe
MERCENARY Ak47 he’s already surpassed Kobe
@@nicholasleventis8875 in what losing
Lebron not better than kobe
MERCENARY Ak47 he already better just gotta win a championship wit lakers
Its too late he can never be better than kobe
Kellerman is a disrespectful man who always has an agenda. This is the same man who accepted money to say Canelo dominated GGG. No integrity in this man.
Canelo did beat ggg tho
Yet he always mentions Hakeem Olajuwon being better than Shaq while the rest of the media world ignores Hakeem's domination of centers throughout the 90s.
There’s a reason we all as kids yelled Kobe when throwing anything that resembled a basketball
Max Kellerman says some stupid things sometimes. Did he just say Kobe Bryant in the early younger age was better than Michael Jordan in his early younger age? Shaking my head. I'm glad Steven a check from real quick on that
I think Max meant 18 year old Kobe was better than 18 year old Jordan, he just worded it very poorly.
Nigga he was
Just look the stats of jordan when he starts playing in the nba..then tell me again if kobe is better than mj
William Marc Boquiren an 18 yr old Kobe dropped 35 on Jordan. Son come on lol
@@taewiz863 crazy didnt know he dropped 35 on jordan at 18
Did Kobe steal something from Max? Just asking
This aged well...
I'm a kobe fan but i will never say kobe better than mj.
Kobe is better, MJ is greater
Kobe was in LA for 20 Years. LeBron doesn’t have enough time to surpass anything Kobe did. Kobe has too many rings there and had too many moments. Bottom line
Jordan might have the better resume on paper but I think we can all agree that Kobe faced stiffer competition. For years and years all of the Western Conference playoff teams were championship quality teams. Kobe beat all of them.
Nope Kobe consistently facing teams that had injuries to their star nba players
@@yugiyami8642 The only player that was injured was Kobe himself. Name one series the Lakers WON in which a star from the opposing team was out due to injury.... I watched all years, it didn't happen. You may have been born in the 1990s or 2000s and are too young to remember clearly. I will give you this, in 2002 the Kings series is talked about as having been affected by the refs. Seriously, name a Finals or CF in which the opposing star was out! DID NOT HAPPEN
@@KyleJett lmao 2010 nba finals. celtics center was injured which meant the paint was unprotected. 2009 nba finals orlando didn't have their top pg who was putting up incredible numbers but was injured, missing the finals. Lmao so that "it didn't happen" isn't true.
@@yugiyami8642"consistently facing teams that had injuries to their star nba players" Kendrick Perkins was a huge star.... missed only game 7 and in his place was Rasheed Wallace! Try Bynum missing the entire 2008 playoffs! hahahha you have no idea what you are talking about! Your example also doesn't speak to the consistent frequency you referenced earlier. By the way, those dudes aren't star players bro! hahahaha. The best players on Orlando were Hedo and Dwight and both were healthy! Since you were too young to watch, you better read up at least.
@@KyleJett Wallace wasn't in his prime and he barely played all that year, much less the playoffs. Orlando didn't have Nelson and Nelson was an all star so Idk what the hell you talking about when you say that Hedo and Dwight was all their stars because that's not true. Lmao I do know what I'm talking about, you just biased asf for the lakers.
I love how they even admit that kobe doesn't get the love from the media he deserves..
Kobe is only behind Jordan and Kareem
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Kobe will always be great faxxx
Stephen A. always talking about he's from the streets 😂
Facts lol