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I'm a maccabi fan from israel and I will never forget the battles bodiroga had with us in the early 2000's. He had his own pace, and when it mattered most he was ungaurdable. For me, he is the best to ever play in Europe since the late 90's (maybe except parker). Could easily be an nba all star in today's game.
I swear. That 2002 final was when I found out who Bodiroga was, and what he could do at a FIBA level was insane. The way the Yugoslavian team got on his back to turn the game around.... Incredible. Luckily we had 2004 as revenge.
Some great memories with Bodiroga when he was with Panathinaikos. I was just a kid back then, but he made me fall in love with basketball. Thanks Dejan!
Dejan Bodiroga: a Serb, who has never played in the NBA. Basketnews: a RUclips channel, based in Lithuania. The audience: mostly Greeks, Serbs, Lithuanians and Turks. The video: sIx FoOt nInE IncHeS
the vid is more usefull for those who are unaware of european bball..so, basically americans..so the foot-inch thing makes it lil' easier, more familiar and comfortable with for them..a place like home
The language of basketball is English American, as a hater of that system it's correct to use that. NBA talks in foot and inches and he's talking to Americans with this video.
Danko Cvjetičanin did it twice in the 1986 Euroleague final (Cibona : Žalgiris). Of course, he did it in almost every game he played in the Yugoslav league in the late 80s. Older fans claim that Kićanović performed similar moves in the seventies, but i'm not sure about that. Cvjetičanin used that move to free up space for a shot, and Bodiroga developed that for drive to the basket. And made it popular.
I heard basketball was actually invented in Serbia and that James Naismith was of Serbian descent. Then again, you can't believe everything you hear on the internet.
@@darrellalston2103 Those aren't the rumours about Bodiroga and Cvjetičanin but actual games. I was watching many of those and was really surprised when I heard the move being called by Shamgod. Especially because Bodiroga did that also to the USA team!
HE IS FUNDAMENTAL MOST SKILLED PLAYER HE RARE TRAVEL AND CAN PIVOT FROM BOTH FEET EQUAL ONLY OTHER PLAYER I SAW THAT SKILLED IS GRANT HILL PRIOR INJURIES. BOTH CAN COTROL BALL WITH BOTH HANDS IN POST EQUAL, SPIN ON ANY SIDE THE SAM, AND PIVOT DROP STEP OR UP AND UNDER WAS AMAZING.
I'm not an expert when it comes to basketball attributes but I know for sure that Bodiroga was always the best when needed the most. He took responsibility like a true leader. The definition of clutch.
I'm French and to me Bodiroga is the best European player of all time. I know people will say Nowitzky, Gasol, Parker or Petrovic but to me none of them come close to Dejan. Sadly Americans will never understand the beast that he was! Respect to him and what a pleasure to see him on a basketball court!
Americans will never trust the opinion that he's the best European player because he chose to not play against the best players consistently to prove it. Especially back in his time overseas basketball didn't compare to NBA. It's closer now but back then there was a bigger divide.
@@thomasarnal nobody did and that’s the point I’m making. It’s easy to say someone is the best but if it wasn’t shown regularly against the best players at the time nobody will believe it.
@@manegrindshard Jesus…maybe you guys in the US weren’t paying attention but that’s ok. This is why I don’t talk European ball with you guys, too self centred.
@@thomasarnal lol 😂stop it, that would be like someone in the US claiming to be the best football "soccer" player and they never touched foot overseas where the best of the best play. Everyone knows the best competition isn't in the US for that sport so the same goes for basketball.
I learnt about that move in the late 90s when I was 11 or so, my coach actually called it "the Bodiroga crossover" (roughly translated). It sounds prehistoric if you think that this kind of "knowledge" was just passed down orally.
@@kemba4965 Bro, Danko Cvjetićanin used that crossover in the '80s, there's a video of him doing that move in 1986 Euroleague final. Originator of that dribble was another player from ex-Yugoslavia, Dragan Kićanović who played during 70s.
@@markomarkovic5729 Sometimes I think we try to put the first person do something as their move vs the person who made it mainstream. I PERSONALLY prefer to pay homage to a move of the first person to do it. HOWEVER, I can understand why certain moves are tied to a player who made it mainstream. Take the actual Jumpman emblem on Jordan's That move wasn't done by Jordan first but we associate the Jumpman with Jordan as it is also his iconic Dunk from the Free Throw Line...Even though Jordan isn't the first to do the Dunk from the Free throw line...That is Dr. J as far as I know...but Jordan is the one who get's the most credit.
Thanks for the video. Even though Bodiroga shooting percentage was not great, at that times was one of the best. The thing about him is that he was clutch when it was needed the most. Some of the coaches were using him on SG position, that would be the same as someone in modern basketball would use Kevin Durant on SG position!
Bodiroga was an AMAZING player. He could play on all positions except center. His drible was slow but still very efective. I still remember his moves against Carmelo Anthony... Man what a player
We can all say this move has been around a long time and been done by amazing players throughout the years ... I'm glad it's still being used and not tossed aside like old sneakers... Great video..
as an american…. this is great to hear and really opened up my hoops history more. i still call it the shammgod but now ima pay respects to dejan and shammgod themselves for putting many hoopers on with this deadly move
Growing up as an Efes Pilsen fan I used to shudder every time we had to play against Bodiroga. He was something else. A delight to watch. Too bad I was never cheering for his team!
Nice history lesson. Definitely appreciate the perspective, but to defend Chris Paul and most Americans, they don't really watch Euro league so for them, the originator of this move is Shamgod. As far as Shamgod's influence, who knows. But I'll say this. In the late 80's and early 90's when I played basketball, we also had the euro step already, but we called it "in and out" that's what we called it in Houston, Texas in the late 80's and early to mid 90's. We never saw euro league players and Manu wasn't in the NBA yet. So i think moves are invented every where. no specific place or person is responsible for it. Even these days people credit Kyrie for doing basketball drills with plastic bags on the ball, but in the 80's we were doing this in my neighborhood already. We just didnt have social media to show it, but like the saying goes "There's nothing new under the sun"
I agree we were doing these moves in the 70’s and 80’s but not able to use them as they were called hot dogging, showboating. We have been doing them sorry Europe
Just for the record we were doing the Eurostep in the 70's we called it faking out your man skip a sidestep... way before Ginobli. ShamGod was doing this move in the late 80's early 90's as a kid we didn't have internet to see this guy Dejan maybe it's just a coincidence that this was a move they perfected.
Exactly I watched Rod Strickland do it and get called for a travel wasn't no Euros in the league in the 70s and 80s and there's videos of Magic doing it.. idk why people be so desperate to take credit for shit they didn't do. Cats got all these moves and all these skill innovations and still be getting blown out make it make sense
Back in the 70s we would’ve been called for carrying the ball. And the eurostep, I used to do something like that as I was slow af on my way to a layup and the guys guarding were so off balance and I got called for a traveling violation. And the next 5 minutes we were arguing that it wasn’t traveling and all that. Never would’ve imagined that 20 years later those two moves coming out of lack of athleticism are now NBA go to moves. And no, don’t take it as if I am claiming that I invented them. Just to show you that many of today’s basketball moves that awe fans are pure old school stuff.
"SEX, DROGA I BODIROGA!" This video is absolutely on the money. Bodiroga is one of the two best players in the world that never played in the NBA, the other one being the Greek God Nikos Galis. Dejan's status in Europe is beyond legendary even though the numbers don't make this seem likely. He had that poetry in motion that MJ had, toying with defenders with agility that you wouldn't think a guy with limited athleticism has. I want to see a video of Diamantides, the 3D playmaker (who also didn't play in the NBA), one of the most clutch players of all time.
You forgot to mention Dragan Kicanovic. Who according to Yugoslavian basketball players of his era (his teammates) claim that he was the first player to do this move in the 70s.
@@VGYugo a crossover existed b4 Allen Iverson. But Iverson made the stutter and hesitation while pushin out the ball then pulling it back. U can find 1000000 ppl who did the crossover b4 Iverson but it's not the same. Jus like the shammmgoddd. He does a skip, pushes the ball out, leans, then pulls it back. Same move but totally different. The harden step back. Been done b4. But harden does it different. How dont u get it. In the 70s 80s. Players did finger rolls. In the mid 2000s. Kids from ny created jelly. Same move. But different. I get u love ur country , overseas basketball players. But all the fancy dribblin dunkin etc all came from the hood. The guys in the ghetto. Then the world imitates. Same with clothes, music, slang, everything. The reason u dress how u do is because of hood drug dealer teenagers from ny and philly pa in the 80s. They created it. Look it. Research. Google it. 1980s ny philly drug dealers
@@bbkingme8831 What’s there to get? You just wrote all that to reference a drug dealers and how they were dressing back in the 80’s. Pretty much saying that everyone else after them copied there style exactly the same way these 2 Yugoslavian players were the first to do the move everyone afterwards copied it. Maybe they put their lil spin in it but we know who did the original move. Sagging pants is definitely something that should not be copied but just simply banned. Grown ass man should not have their underwear hanging out. Europe has a lot of their own moves that they use and they do not come from the hood. Also every language around the world has its own version what they call here slang or dialect.
Definitely… ruclips.net/video/jZaL_SZhMPk/видео.html And there’s not even much Pistol Pete footage available! Plus, dribbling rules were much stricter back then…
actually this move is common move in newbie leagues, its out of balance dribble to side, i use to do this when i was kid :D of course this is world class players so they dont expect this basic move to done in such way
@@BubaIGunga im too young to see them live but ive seen some old footages, dalipagic is legendary name that is no question about it, even here in lithuania we know him. i just said that this move is pretty common here too, ive seen it many times in my yard where our neighbour pros played in 80s 90s. i myself done that without knowing its history. also claiming move to be yours is funny, cause maybe someone did that in 50s 60s in other country or even earlier, ive seen some crazy footages of 1936 39 eurobaskets few players did similar moves, not quite like that but similar.
@@NostalgicMem0ries nobody claims it that's a Serbian move, I'm just claiming that Kica and Praja especially Kica did it before Cvjeticanin and Bodiroga, evem Petrovic did it occasionally, it's stupid to claim it as a Shamgod's move. But for sure Bodiroga did it often than most of european players, and Kica and Praja did it differently than Bodiroga or today's players like Chris Paul, because different travelling rules. Maybe someone before them did it, and I'm not claiming that they're the first, but that the guys in Serbia that saw that move saw it of them.
I've been a fan of basketball for over 30 years and I'm just learning about Bodiroga. Thank you for this video! Dude was straight up Luka before Luka. I would have loved to see him take on MJ and other 90s stars in his prime.
Love shammgod, mostly for how ridiculous it sounds but I’m kinda with the Europeans on this one. This Bodriga guy seems to have been the first to really make it a consistent part of his game… but even someone before him a little bit too, cool stuff.
They’re two different moves though. If you compared them side by side you’d see a difference. Also shammgod was in high school in the late 80s and 90s how was he supposed to know there was a European player doing it. I say we give credit to both but don’t let one overshadow the other.
These Euros are full of royal sh!!!!..... That Euro move is NOT the Shamgod! Anyone that saw him do this in the park knows that combination of the fast footwork is UNBELIEVABLE!!!! I Call BS on these Euros.
It's not called Dragan Kićanović. Spaniards call it El Latigo, Americans Shammgod, while others call it Yugoslav crossover. We were doing that since the 70s.
Bodiroga needs to be mentionned in the conversation of the best outside the nba but I give like many comments the edge to Nick Galis and Oscar Schmidt. Now the talent of Bodiroga is amazing, and personnally one of the greatest footwork ever seen. He was actually not always great, but he got hot, then it was insane.
Best thing ever was when Bodiroga needed to wipe the sweat of his hands and forehead, so he decided that a best way to do it is to go to USA bench and literally rip the towel from Reggie Miller’s hands. Just shows how much of a beast he was, he looked like a schoolboy but man was absolute alfa male lion.
The difference between el latigo and shammgod is that the shammgod has a shuffle step and has more snap and shammgod wells even incorporated it with complimentary crossovers
The whip used by Bodiroga is something like unorthodox move, an inverted or reverse crossover. While shamgod is you throw the ball out in your dribbling range then snatching it back while you shuffle your feet. Shamgod is Shamgod.
@@mattmcrae1458 lol...facts...I mean how can some highschool kid in 93 even get access to videos of Euro basketball? I am sure it's possible, but not probable.
Another good video!!! I d be very interesting in similar videos, not only for indivinduals but for teams or coaches also. For example, in US there are still giving credit to the Warriors and their head coach for the so called "small ball line up" ( playing without a traditional center/using an undersized forward as a "5") that was introduced succesfully during the previous decade in the basketball world. But i do also remember the great Duda in OLY doing the same in Europe, winning the title in 2012, creating a trend that most teams followed. So who copied who? Did the great Dušan Ivković inspired by the NBA or it was the other way around?
Actually... Duško Vujošević was doing that in Partizan with Stephane Lasme in 2008/09 season - the season when he won Gomelsky award - to this day the only coach to win the award in a season in which he didn't win the Euroleague title. There's a reason for that: small forward (Jan Vesely, 213 cm) was taller than power forward (EL Rising Star Novica Veličković, 205 cm), and PF was taller than center (Stephane Lasme, 201 cm). Point guard was Milenko Tepić (203 cm), who in those years was expected to become the new Bodiroga. After that season, he went to Željko Obradović's Panathinaikos, but unfortunately he never fulfilled his full potential, and he didn't do well in the fierce competition of Jasikevičius, Diamantidis and Spanoulis.not lead a team to the title of
That "move" is the type of stuff I used to do as a kid ALL The time. When you don't know what you're doing... You don't know that your doing something your not supposed to be able to do... Your just thinking in the moment. All it is is reaching over with the opposite hand and pulling the dribble back.... Big deal.
Fact of the matter is we attribute it to Shammgod because most NBA players/fans at the time didn’t care nor were influenced by Euroleague Basketball, chances are neither of the “originators” knew each other.
@@qdigggs I gave the specific example of Manu Ginobili and how he started using the move. Dejan Bodiroga started using this trick in the early 90s by watching older players in the former Yugoslavia. There's a video of Danko Cvjetićanin where he uses that move back in 1986, just type "El Latigo 1986" - that trick is called El Latigo (whip in Spanish) in Europe, and Dragan Kićanović used it back in the 70s.
@@markomarkovic5729 i gave you a specific example how sham started it ...rucker park was called the ebc classic that was broadcast on tv also they have videotape footage 😎..also the old aba showed plenty of moves for everybody to steal and then claim as their own 😌 ..bottom line they dont do it like sham
@@qdigggs Bro, Shammgod wasn't even born when Kićanović used that feint and he was just a kid when Danko Cvjetićanin, Saša Danilović, Zoran Sretenović used it. He wasn't even in college when Dejan Bodiroga started using that crossover, which he used several times against Team USA in the 1996 Olympic finals until Karl Malone injured him.
First man who invented the move was Dragan Kićanović from Partizan Belgrade in 70s. There is not much videos, but today's Serbian and Yugoslavian coaches seeking about him as the inventor of the movie.
When I grow up in Israel every time my favorite team played against him, That most likely likely we are going to lose because he was very skilled and he was able to impose his will on the game
I grew up in Israel in the 90's and knew the move as The Yugoslavian Crossover. I was dumbfounded when I realized that American NBA players attribute it to Shammgod (although I have to admit that "Shammgod is a way cooler name).
This is an interesting video. Thing is, Shamgods name was cemented in college, before he ever played pro ball. The move you are referring to was only one of the things that made Shamgod a legend. For instance, he would come down the court with a really high dribble, inviting defenders to try for the steal. He'd then bring his dribble super low, and cook the defender. According to Kobe Bryant, after getting cooked in a hoop camp by him, Shamgod taught him how to dribble.
Bodiroga learned the move from Dragan Kicanovic who was a player in the 70's. Bodiroga said that himself Cvjeticanin also learned the move from Kicanovic because at the beginning of his career he played with Kicanovic
Appreciate the history lesson.. but I'm gonna call it "shammgod".. he did it the most w ease when I was youngn.. we wasn't watching overseas hooper for various of reasons..but the main is it wasn't on tv & internet wasn't like it is today
@@Shiljamannn Oh God Bodiroga by far better career 2x World Champion 3x European Champion 3x Euroleague Olimpic finale Bronze '99 6-7 Championship Spain, Greece, Italy Stojakovic 1 NBA ring( as bench guy with 8 points), 1x World Champion and 1x European Champion Stojakovic played for national team only to his 26 years and he was great in NBA in only 3-4 years Bodiroga has about 20 titles, Stojakovic only 4-5
@@milosjovicevic6083 Stojaković struggled with injuries since 2005/06 and was never the same since that. He was a fantastic shooter and a great scorer overall, but was below average passer and rebounder. Bodiroga was versatile and had a perfect technique and basketball IQ. He was a clutch player and go-to guy in the national team, with Stojaković on the court. Stojaković choked more than once.
@@Shiljamannn Bodiroga was the main player in every team and decided the games, although Stojaković was a better shooter. Anyway, any coach would rather take Dejan than Peja. There is an answer.
Am Italian, but could tell that every Yugoslavian (or Serbian) legendary coaches would have chosen Bodiroga as their core team player above of Stojakovic and, let me say, probably, dealing with the NBA camparison, they'd even taken Rebraca as the starting center over Divac.
To be honest Dejan move is like a reverse crossover whereas Shammgod throws the ball out and snatches it the other way. If you look closely you'll see the difference.
Bodiroga played in slow motion but the thing is, he was rarely stopped. Similar as Luka Doncic, he is far from being the fastest in the league and yet poses the great threat
So when did Dejan start using the crossover? His pro career did start earlier as Shammgod was not allowed to start his pro career while still in high school. But you didn't provide a time frame of when either player began using the move and tried to dismiss shammgod as just a street baller even though he actually did suit up in the nba
Dejan started using that dribble in the early 90s. Danko Cvjetićanin used it in the 80s, some other players also used it, like Predrag Saša Danilović, but the first player who used that particular dribble in Europe was Dragan Kićanović in the 70s. Cvjetićanin actually started his career in Partizan the same year Kićanović played his last season there, so he probably picked up that move from him.
There is video of God Shammgod doing the Shammgod move while at Providence college in the NCAA tournament in like 1995 or 96. And he had been doing the move earlier than that when he played street ball.
Probably this Euroleague player is the first one to do it but if you saw it right now it’s very awkward, they have similarities but the one with Shammgod is more matured, having more flare and more quicker, more effective in todays standard and can setup almost any shots without problems. I might say they are different, just similar.
Sjajan video. Bodiroga kod nas u Srbiji ima status boga, što i zaslužuje. Ipak, mala ispravka za vas. Ovaj potez pre Bodiroge izvodio i patentirao je godinama pre Dragan Kićanović.
We had that move during the 90s in Serbia during basketball, many of us basketball lovers. We can't guess who invented it, but my personal opinion is that it was created on a street court on a 3x3 or 2x2 basketball court. Greetings from the country of basketball, Serbia of course!
God Shamgod played for providence in 1995 and u know basketball in Europe was not televised in the states at all during that time out side of the Olympic Games so there is no way Shamgod could’ve copied that and he even said him self he was doin the move since he was a kid in street ball tournaments so I’m stickin wit the OG, Shamgod ….performed by GOD Shamgod
Dejan Bodiroga used it on Karl Malone in 1996 Olympics final😂 He later injured Bodiroga and told him "This is because you are making a fool of me in front of my fans". Anyway, Danko Cvjetićanin was doing that in the mid-80s, and some claim that Dragan Kićanović used the same crossover in the 70s.
One of the coldest crossovers ever invented lol it never gets old becuz u can’t predict when someone is going to catch u with it. Shamgod is a beast for creating that move.
Shammgod just learned to use potty when players from ex-Yugoslavia did that move. Here you go, video from 1986: ruclips.net/video/v6fARNx8yTk/видео.html
Shammgod is the one and only Shammgod. Who learned from (Tiny Archibald) if I'm not mistaken. WE (America) don't know shit about none of you european ballers. Let alone follow them. Today it is possible but that ends without telephone internet, streaming and sharing information worldwide how we do today. this dude Dejan is a mystery to me........completely never heard of him....Luka is amazing because we don't rate you (Europe) as ball players generally. So he is a wonder and appreciated. Not expected. Props to Dejan but we ain't know about him over here!!!!
It is clear that the reason God Shammgod’s "Shammgod" became popular was due to him clearly having better handles than the player titled of the video, obviously the euro player was a far better basketball player and accomplished a lot more but Shammgod is the one that made the move iconic, y’all can’t put his name down as if he knew that European player and stole the move.
yeah, i also think he developed it independantly and thats why i have no problem americans calling it shamgod, while here in balkans we call it bodiroga. but the claim that he made the move more iconic is very subjective and linked to your geographical position.
I want to remind myself and others not about moves of Bodiroga but about his mental strength. When it was the hardest moments, he was most stable and always pull us out. This guy is a legend, and yes we have a song where Bodiroga is called a god :) Mi imamo naseg boga, on se zove Bodiroga (We have our own god, his name is Bodiroga).
So are the European’s going to stop taking credit for the “euro step”? A move that was clearly introduced to the league By Elgin Baylor during his pro career.
No, because according to there delusional asses they invented every move. Plus they're too busy celebrating participation trophies from the countless shitty tournaments they play.
Pete Maravich was doing this before the 1980’s: ruclips.net/video/jZaL_SZhMPk/видео.html And that’s in an era where the refs emphasized MUCH MORE the (dribbling) rules! Plus, there’s not a lot of Pistol Pete footage out there… who knows what more he was pulling off. Either way, Maravich was doing TONS of moves on the regular, that other players are credited for… Hakeem shakes, Rondo fakes, the Smitty, stutter dribbles, all types of crossovers, underhanded full-court passes, passing it off the backboard to himself, jelly layups, pulling up from anywhere in anyway (without the 3pt-line), crazy floaters, fake behind-the-back passes……… Baffling how overlooked his influence STILL is!
@@lastshallbefirst5516 Y’all? My father was black, so… take that shit elsewhere. Trying to assume something. Anyways, I was talking about the pros and players getting credited for moves that were done way before… same goes for Elgin Baylor and the eurostep. I know all of that about Pistol Pete; that’s why his game was like that no doubt, he got it from black folks (due to what you’ve said about his pops). Regarding Elvis… lmao… Chuck Berry did it better and before! And on a mainstream level too, just never became as big as Elvis because he was black, ofc…
@@lastshallbefirst5516 Damn… let it out, breh. All mad, blowing things out of proportion, c’mon now… Save that anger and that fake revolutionary shit for some real issues. Just some basketball moves discussion… plus, Pistol Pete been dead for ages, man always went out of his way to give credit to the best basketball players (black players), and his influence is still many times underrated. It ain’t that deep to be all mad like that…
@@lastshallbefirst5516 ruclips.net/video/gfWkiO2Iz08/видео.html ruclips.net/video/e_xehkLbUIg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/r7zHyFNs36A/видео.html Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Kobe Bryant, Elgin Baylor, Bob Lanier, Dr J, Tiny Archibald, LeBron James, Walt Frazier, Earl Monroe, Kyrie Irving, Stephen Curry……. speaking highly of Pete and his utmost influence… But your opinion means more I guess… lmao
Having him in the team was like playing with cheat-codes. A guy that can win you 90% of 1:1s. Confidence beyond the roof. And none of it fit his level of athleticism or demeanour. He was mostly shy and at times even a funny looking player... There was a running strategy/joke -"whenever you are tired or out of ideas, pass Bodiroga the ball and he will take care of business". Serbia/Yugoslavia hasn't won gold since he stopped playing (we won some silvers but with a lot of luck involved).
@@mr.richardson9673 first, there's no proof/evidence for your claim, and second, if danko cvjeticanin did it in game, that means he was doing that all his life, which also means that he was doing that back in 70s
@@Luka-nw6kc Allen Iverson crossover isn’t Allen Iversons. I saw that in D.C. way before Iverson. It’s called playground ball for a reason. Thats where all the moves were made. Look at early basketball and then watch when brothas started to play the game.
What's funny is that there is a song in Serbia fans used to chant in the 90s "Mi imamo našeg Boga, to je Dejan Bodiroga." translating "We have our God, it's Dejan Bodiroga" so the guy's name being Shamgod which basically means hoax god is hilerous.
The legendary situation is below; Basketball match Yugoslavia - USA Dream Team 1996. After the time out, the entire Yugoslav team moves away from the racket and Dejan Bodiroga goes 1 on 5 with the USA team. Because, when Bodiroga goes to the hoop, it's either a point or a foul by the opposing team. Video: ruclips.net/video/tn9lAyi7xF8/видео.html 1:31 min,
In this no-contact era of basketball, he would be toying easier than before. Bodiroga and Kobe are the two best 1on1 players of they era. ruclips.net/video/DQEzmPKdqt4/видео.html SEX, DRUGS, BODIROGA !!!!
This is a great video. I really appreciate learning about people who are so outstanding who I have truly never heard of. But the fact that this European player mastered a move similar to the Shamgod, in which does not seem to be identical, can be a tribute to the both. An Italian invented something like the telephone a little before Alexander Graham Bell. I have no doubt that they did not track each other. But the building blocks a basketball in each location had to be at a level for that "invention" to have been a next step in both places. It's all the more impressive for a European since that is really not a European style and is much more individual type of game. I played ball in Europe and it reminded me of more old style college ball--no flash. Meat and potatoes pass, play and shoot.
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HE PULLED LATIGO ON CARMELO EVEN BETTER. ANTHONY DIDNT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AT LEAST JEFFERSON TRY
El Latigo! Bog!
Yes You can say he created the move, but he is not shamgod . The move was called the whip over there and here it’s the shamgod
Uhhh Shammgod is Shammgod 🙄
Shammgod is the real Shammgod. That's why it's named the Shammgod.
Watching Bodiroga play was delightful... he made everything look so easy and "slow"... his fundamentals were just out of this world
yes his game was simple and fundamental he didnt make many mistakes.
I am from Athens and clearly remeber Bodiroga on Panathinaikos,mopping the floor with most players.Unguardable
Respect to you man for give respect to Bodiroga,we in Serbia know who and what he is...Mi imamo svoga boga,ime mu je Bodiroga!
In Barcelona we know too
He's quite well known to basketball fans in Bulgaria too.
"My mamy swojego boga, na imię jest mu Bodiroga" in my language :D
какво богохуљење каква глупост.Ми имамо свога Бога име му је Исус Христос
Ma samo sex droga i dotični gospodin 😎
You cannot make Bodiroga video without "Bodiroga schools Anthony" part 😥 It's probably his best highlight
😂😂😂😂he has more then enogh Highlights
I'm a maccabi fan from israel and I will never forget the battles bodiroga had with us in the early 2000's. He had his own pace, and when it mattered most he was ungaurdable.
For me, he is the best to ever play in Europe since the late 90's (maybe except parker). Could easily be an nba all star in today's game.
Free Palestine
Bodiroga was so unique , people couldn’t guard him, cause they couldnt read him
Here after I heard Wemby shout dude out on TNT. Learned some history today. Nice vid!
I always called that dribble the Bodiroga 😅
Amazing player, legend here in Europe 🦾
Dejan Bodiroga the best player that never played in the NBA and most clutch player of all time. Argentina 2002 knows why....
Nah The best player that never played in the NBA has to be Nick Galis
I swear. That 2002 final was when I found out who Bodiroga was, and what he could do at a FIBA level was insane. The way the Yugoslavian team got on his back to turn the game around.... Incredible. Luckily we had 2004 as revenge.
Oscar Schmidt
Jerwin Gaco is the best ,, Gaconatics
I'm a maccabi fan and I 100% agree.. he used to kill us
Some great memories with Bodiroga when he was with Panathinaikos. I was just a kid back then, but he made me fall in love with basketball. Thanks Dejan!
Dejan Bodiroga: a Serb, who has never played in the NBA.
Basketnews: a RUclips channel, based in Lithuania.
The audience: mostly Greeks, Serbs, Lithuanians and Turks.
The video: sIx FoOt nInE IncHeS
good point
the vid is more usefull for those who are unaware of european bball..so, basically americans..so the foot-inch thing makes it lil' easier, more familiar and comfortable with for them..a place like home
2,05 m
Audience: Add Indian too. Always been fascinated by European Basketball players
The language of basketball is English American, as a hater of that system it's correct to use that. NBA talks in foot and inches and he's talking to Americans with this video.
Danko Cvjetičanin did it twice in the 1986 Euroleague final (Cibona : Žalgiris). Of course, he did it in almost every game he played in the Yugoslav league in the late 80s. Older fans claim that Kićanović performed similar moves in the seventies, but i'm not sure about that. Cvjetičanin used that move to free up space for a shot, and Bodiroga developed that for drive to the basket. And made it popular.
I heard basketball was actually invented in Serbia and that James Naismith was of Serbian descent.
Then again, you can't believe everything you hear on the internet.
@@darrellalston2103 you should listen more and talk less.
@@darrellalston2103 Those aren't the rumours about Bodiroga and Cvjetičanin but actual games. I was watching many of those and was really surprised when I heard the move being called by Shamgod. Especially because Bodiroga did that also to the USA team!
Got to watch him in person around 10 times between 2003-2006, never have I seen a slower player, that no one could stop.
I remember watching him play with my local team (Barcelona). The whole basketball court chanting BO-DI-RO-GA!
sesso, droga e Bodiroga! i enjoyed watching him play in Italy in the first 90's when i was a kid, a fuckin encyclopedia of moves.
Bodiroga has arguably the best footwork in the history of the game.
HE IS FUNDAMENTAL MOST SKILLED PLAYER HE RARE TRAVEL AND CAN PIVOT FROM BOTH FEET EQUAL
ONLY OTHER PLAYER I SAW THAT SKILLED IS GRANT HILL PRIOR INJURIES. BOTH CAN COTROL BALL WITH BOTH HANDS IN POST EQUAL, SPIN ON ANY SIDE THE SAM, AND PIVOT DROP STEP OR UP AND UNDER WAS AMAZING.
Okay now you're going too far
Lmfao
@@PIP...33 MJ and Kobe?
@@scarykurapika100yago2 KOBE WENT TO HAKEEM SCHOOL. JORDAN IS NOT GREAT WITH BOTH FEET.
I'm not an expert when it comes to basketball attributes but I know for sure that Bodiroga was always the best when needed the most. He took responsibility like a true leader. The definition of clutch.
My favourite player! True legend!
Serbia and Lithuania... European basketball Gods
We didn’t know. Internet wasn’t nearly what it is today back when Shamgod made it popular here in the US. Respect due. Thanks so much for the vid!
Yes you did, it was Done at the Olympics and World Cup by the Originator Danko Cvijetičanin with Yugoslavia National Team..
I'm French and to me Bodiroga is the best European player of all time. I know people will say Nowitzky, Gasol, Parker or Petrovic but to me none of them come close to Dejan. Sadly Americans will never understand the beast that he was! Respect to him and what a pleasure to see him on a basketball court!
Americans will never trust the opinion that he's the best European player because he chose to not play against the best players consistently to prove it. Especially back in his time overseas basketball didn't compare to NBA. It's closer now but back then there was a bigger divide.
@@manegrindshard did you watch European basketball at that time?
@@thomasarnal nobody did and that’s the point I’m making. It’s easy to say someone is the best but if it wasn’t shown regularly against the best players at the time nobody will believe it.
@@manegrindshard Jesus…maybe you guys in the US weren’t paying attention but that’s ok. This is why I don’t talk European ball with you guys, too self centred.
@@thomasarnal lol 😂stop it, that would be like someone in the US claiming to be the best football "soccer" player and they never touched foot overseas where the best of the best play. Everyone knows the best competition isn't in the US for that sport so the same goes for basketball.
Great to see a video post on Dejan...one of the greatest European players of all time.
I learnt about that move in the late 90s when I was 11 or so, my coach actually called it "the Bodiroga crossover" (roughly translated). It sounds prehistoric if you think that this kind of "knowledge" was just passed down orally.
Sham good is from Harlem . He was doing on high school in 1993 .
@@kemba4965 Bro, Danko Cvjetićanin used that crossover in the '80s, there's a video of him doing that move in 1986 Euroleague final. Originator of that dribble was another player from ex-Yugoslavia, Dragan Kićanović who played during 70s.
@@markomarkovic5729 Sometimes I think we try to put the first person do something as their move vs the person who made it mainstream. I PERSONALLY prefer to pay homage to a move of the first person to do it. HOWEVER, I can understand why certain moves are tied to a player who made it mainstream. Take the actual Jumpman emblem on Jordan's That move wasn't done by Jordan first but we associate the Jumpman with Jordan as it is also his iconic Dunk from the Free Throw Line...Even though Jordan isn't the first to do the Dunk from the Free throw line...That is Dr. J as far as I know...but Jordan is the one who get's the most credit.
Thanks for the video. Even though Bodiroga shooting percentage was not great, at that times was one of the best. The thing about him is that he was clutch when it was needed the most. Some of the coaches were using him on SG position, that would be the same as someone in modern basketball would use Kevin Durant on SG position!
His ball handling was crazy smooth. He was running around those players like a Running Back lol that's crazy
There's a video of Elgin Baylor doing the eurostep in the early 60s. It's a basic move someone most likely did it a long time ago.
So this move should not be called a EuroStep
@@jalyxx7888 change it to the nigga skip is wat u saying lol
Bodiroga was an AMAZING player. He could play on all positions except center. His drible was slow but still very efective. I still remember his moves against Carmelo Anthony... Man what a player
Nope. He looked slow, but his dribble was very fast.
We can all say this move has been around a long time and been done by amazing players throughout the years ...
I'm glad it's still being used and not tossed aside like old sneakers...
Great video..
as an american…. this is great to hear and really opened up my hoops history more. i still call it the shammgod but now ima pay respects to dejan and shammgod themselves for putting many hoopers on with this deadly move
Growing up as an Efes Pilsen fan I used to shudder every time we had to play against Bodiroga. He was something else. A delight to watch. Too bad I was never cheering for his team!
So, u did not chear for Yugoslavia against the Americans?
Nice history lesson. Definitely appreciate the perspective, but to defend Chris Paul and most Americans, they don't really watch Euro league so for them, the originator of this move is Shamgod. As far as Shamgod's influence, who knows. But I'll say this. In the late 80's and early 90's when I played basketball, we also had the euro step already, but we called it "in and out" that's what we called it in Houston, Texas in the late 80's and early to mid 90's. We never saw euro league players and Manu wasn't in the NBA yet. So i think moves are invented every where. no specific place or person is responsible for it. Even these days people credit Kyrie for doing basketball drills with plastic bags on the ball, but in the 80's we were doing this in my neighborhood already. We just didnt have social media to show it, but like the saying goes "There's nothing new under the sun"
I agree we were doing these moves in the 70’s and 80’s but not able to use them as they were called hot dogging, showboating. We have been doing them sorry Europe
Shampoo is named after the person that created it SHAMGOD ! Not this dude
Very true, most moves come instinctively so they get developed everywhere
Well said
In the Phillipines, we call the eurostep as the side step back in the 80's..
Just for the record we were doing the Eurostep in the 70's we called it faking out your man skip a sidestep... way before Ginobli.
ShamGod was doing this move in the late 80's early 90's as a kid we didn't have internet to see this guy Dejan maybe it's just a coincidence that this was a move they perfected.
Exactly I watched Rod Strickland do it and get called for a travel wasn't no Euros in the league in the 70s and 80s and there's videos of Magic doing it.. idk why people be so desperate to take credit for shit they didn't do. Cats got all these moves and all these skill innovations and still be getting blown out make it make sense
Back in the 70s we would’ve been called for carrying the ball. And the eurostep, I used to do something like that as I was slow af on my way to a layup and the guys guarding were so off balance and I got called for a traveling violation. And the next 5 minutes we were arguing that it wasn’t traveling and all that. Never would’ve imagined that 20 years later those two moves coming out of lack of athleticism are now NBA go to moves. And no, don’t take it as if I am claiming that I invented them. Just to show you that many of today’s basketball moves that awe fans are pure old school stuff.
"SEX, DROGA I BODIROGA!"
This video is absolutely on the money. Bodiroga is one of the two best players in the world that never played in the NBA, the other one being the Greek God Nikos Galis.
Dejan's status in Europe is beyond legendary even though the numbers don't make this seem likely. He had that poetry in motion that MJ had, toying with defenders with agility that you wouldn't think a guy with limited athleticism has.
I want to see a video of Diamantides, the 3D playmaker (who also didn't play in the NBA), one of the most clutch players of all time.
Don't forget Oscar Schmidt.
@@TarikM I'm not bro. Legend too!
Hey, we have a video about Diamantidis! Check it out: ruclips.net/video/sRO_-67p8i8/видео.html&ab_channel=BasketNews
Lmao
You forgot to mention Dragan Kicanovic. Who according to Yugoslavian basketball players of his era (his teammates) claim that he was the first player to do this move in the 70s.
No body did the move. If bringin the ball from opposite hand was the only part of the move everybody did it. Shamgod pushed the ball then pulled it.
@@bbkingme8831 What? Decipher it please.
@@VGYugo a crossover existed b4 Allen Iverson. But Iverson made the stutter and hesitation while pushin out the ball then pulling it back. U can find 1000000 ppl who did the crossover b4 Iverson but it's not the same. Jus like the shammmgoddd. He does a skip, pushes the ball out, leans, then pulls it back. Same move but totally different. The harden step back. Been done b4. But harden does it different. How dont u get it. In the 70s 80s. Players did finger rolls. In the mid 2000s. Kids from ny created jelly. Same move. But different. I get u love ur country , overseas basketball players. But all the fancy dribblin dunkin etc all came from the hood. The guys in the ghetto. Then the world imitates. Same with clothes, music, slang, everything. The reason u dress how u do is because of hood drug dealer teenagers from ny and philly pa in the 80s. They created it. Look it. Research. Google it. 1980s ny philly drug dealers
@@bbkingme8831 What’s there to get? You just wrote all that to reference a drug dealers and how they were dressing back in the 80’s. Pretty much saying that everyone else after them copied there style exactly the same way these 2 Yugoslavian players were the first to do the move everyone afterwards copied it. Maybe they put their lil spin in it but we know who did the original move. Sagging pants is definitely something that should not be copied but just simply banned. Grown ass man should not have their underwear hanging out. Europe has a lot of their own moves that they use and they do not come from the hood. Also every language around the world has its own version what they call here slang or dialect.
@@VGYugolet him dreaming about USA influence..poor soul, probably don't know to point where is Europe on the globe, like most americans..
I remember as in 80‘s, when Danko Cvjeticanin did this move, the narrative was that it was copied move from Pete Maravich!
Definitely…
ruclips.net/video/jZaL_SZhMPk/видео.html
And there’s not even much Pistol Pete footage available! Plus, dribbling rules were much stricter back then…
I believe that Danko didn't invented the move, it was performed during the '70 by Kicanovic and Dalipagic.
actually this move is common move in newbie leagues, its out of balance dribble to side, i use to do this when i was kid :D of course this is world class players so they dont expect this basic move to done in such way
@@NostalgicMem0ries In Serbia is common in all the leagues, but only the great masters can do it properly, do you even know who Praja and Kica were?
@@BubaIGunga im too young to see them live but ive seen some old footages, dalipagic is legendary name that is no question about it, even here in lithuania we know him. i just said that this move is pretty common here too, ive seen it many times in my yard where our neighbour pros played in 80s 90s. i myself done that without knowing its history. also claiming move to be yours is funny, cause maybe someone did that in 50s 60s in other country or even earlier, ive seen some crazy footages of 1936 39 eurobaskets few players did similar moves, not quite like that but similar.
@@NostalgicMem0ries nobody claims it that's a Serbian move, I'm just claiming that Kica and Praja especially Kica did it before Cvjeticanin and Bodiroga, evem Petrovic did it occasionally, it's stupid to claim it as a Shamgod's move. But for sure Bodiroga did it often than most of european players, and Kica and Praja did it differently than Bodiroga or today's players like Chris Paul, because different travelling rules. Maybe someone before them did it, and I'm not claiming that they're the first, but that the guys in Serbia that saw that move saw it of them.
@@BubaIGunga with this statement i can agree 100%
I've been a fan of basketball for over 30 years and I'm just learning about Bodiroga. Thank you for this video! Dude was straight up Luka before Luka. I would have loved to see him take on MJ and other 90s stars in his prime.
Shammgod played in the NBA. He wasnt just a streetballer.
Love shammgod, mostly for how ridiculous it sounds but I’m kinda with the Europeans on this one. This Bodriga guy seems to have been the first to really make it a consistent part of his game… but even someone before him a little bit too, cool stuff.
I 've seen him play, when team needed points they just passed him. That simple. The definition of tripple threat.
He said himself that he learned that move by watching players in ex-Yugoslavia. Danko Cvjetićanin used it a lot in the 80s, but Bodiroga perfected it.
@@markomarkovic5729 Source? and the moves have different purposes as-well
@@zxv7655 Source for what? Bodiroga's statement? He said that million times
They’re two different moves though. If you compared them side by side you’d see a difference. Also shammgod was in high school in the late 80s and 90s how was he supposed to know there was a European player doing it. I say we give credit to both but don’t let one overshadow the other.
As someone to witness this as it was happening God Shammgod was doing the move in street ball tournament and high school games...late 80s-early 90s
Shammgod said he didn't do it until the 97 game against Arizona on accident..
I was jus about to say that
@@boogsaysfuckutube32 that’s a lie… i’ve watched him play before he even got to providence he was doing it way before then
@@boogsaysfuckutube32 as for the world to see on tv
These Euros are full of royal sh!!!!..... That Euro move is NOT the Shamgod! Anyone that saw him do this in the park knows that combination of the fast footwork is UNBELIEVABLE!!!! I Call BS on these Euros.
When a move is named after you… It’s your move!!
It's not called Dragan Kićanović. Spaniards call it El Latigo, Americans Shammgod, while others call it Yugoslav crossover. We were doing that since the 70s.
Bodiroga needs to be mentionned in the conversation of the best outside the nba but I give like many comments the edge to Nick Galis and Oscar Schmidt.
Now the talent of Bodiroga is amazing, and personnally one of the greatest footwork ever seen. He was actually not always great, but he got hot, then it was insane.
Best thing ever was when Bodiroga needed to wipe the sweat of his hands and forehead, so he decided that a best way to do it is to go to USA bench and literally rip the towel from Reggie Miller’s hands. Just shows how much of a beast he was, he looked like a schoolboy but man was absolute alfa male lion.
did his team win the game?
@@spenser6353 yes
Hahaha dude, that was the most epic moment in basketball. Miller was so confused. Bodiroga showed how much he cared about the real Dream Team
It was Reggie Miller though, one of the thinnest NBA players ever lol
@@spenser6353 Hahahahahahhahahahah. U r silly!!!
When the new podcast will be recoreded?A lot of new signings!
When Donatas will be back from Las Vegas. He is in Summer League.
The difference between el latigo and shammgod is that the shammgod has a shuffle step and has more snap and shammgod wells even incorporated it with complimentary crossovers
Like & sub for reminding me of this legend. I grow up watching him, he is a living legend in Serbia & Montenegro. Great video bro.
Just type in search "bodiroga vs carmelo" that move was nuts
The whip used by Bodiroga is something like unorthodox move, an inverted or reverse crossover. While shamgod is you throw the ball out in your dribbling range then snatching it back while you shuffle your feet. Shamgod is Shamgod.
I agree with you on this one.
Not trying to stereotype but I doubt 1990’s Brooklyn Shammgod was watching Euro Basket League trying to steal moves. It's his move.
facts
Exactly the motions do not look the same. We get Europeans can hoop but dude stop
@@mattmcrae1458 lol...facts...I mean how can some highschool kid in 93 even get access to videos of Euro basketball? I am sure it's possible, but not probable.
Another good video!!!
I d be very interesting in similar videos, not only for indivinduals but for teams or coaches also. For example, in US there are still giving credit to the Warriors and their head coach for the so called "small ball line up" ( playing without a traditional center/using an undersized forward as a "5") that was introduced succesfully during the previous decade in the basketball world. But i do also remember the great Duda in OLY doing the same in Europe, winning the title in 2012, creating a trend that most teams followed. So who copied who? Did the great Dušan Ivković inspired by the NBA or it was the other way around?
Actually... Duško Vujošević was doing that in Partizan with Stephane Lasme in 2008/09 season - the season when he won Gomelsky award - to this day the only coach to win the award in a season in which he didn't win the Euroleague title. There's a reason for that: small forward (Jan Vesely, 213 cm) was taller than power forward (EL Rising Star Novica Veličković, 205 cm), and PF was taller than center (Stephane Lasme, 201 cm). Point guard was Milenko Tepić (203 cm), who in those years was expected to become the new Bodiroga. After that season, he went to Željko Obradović's Panathinaikos, but unfortunately he never fulfilled his full potential, and he didn't do well in the fierce competition of Jasikevičius, Diamantidis and Spanoulis.not lead a team to the title of
The Lakers had Magic Johnson start at center during the '80 finals. So that's a small ball lineup way before the European coaches thought of it :)
That "move" is the type of stuff I used to do as a kid ALL The time. When you don't know what you're doing... You don't know that your doing something your not supposed to be able to do... Your just thinking in the moment. All it is is reaching over with the opposite hand and pulling the dribble back.... Big deal.
Fact of the matter is we attribute it to Shammgod because most NBA players/fans at the time didn’t care nor were influenced by Euroleague Basketball, chances are neither of the “originators” knew each other.
Manu Ginobili started to use that move after losing 2 finals against Bodiroga in 2002
@@markomarkovic5729sham started using that as a child in harlem at the rucker
@@qdigggs I gave the specific example of Manu Ginobili and how he started using the move. Dejan Bodiroga started using this trick in the early 90s by watching older players in the former Yugoslavia. There's a video of Danko Cvjetićanin where he uses that move back in 1986, just type "El Latigo 1986" - that trick is called El Latigo (whip in Spanish) in Europe, and Dragan Kićanović used it back in the 70s.
@@markomarkovic5729 i gave you a specific example how sham started it ...rucker park was called the ebc classic that was broadcast on tv also they have videotape footage 😎..also the old aba showed plenty of moves for everybody to steal and then claim as their own 😌 ..bottom
line they dont do it like sham
@@qdigggs Bro, Shammgod wasn't even born when Kićanović used that feint and he was just a kid when Danko Cvjetićanin, Saša Danilović, Zoran Sretenović used it. He wasn't even in college when Dejan Bodiroga started using that crossover, which he used several times against Team USA in the 1996 Olympic finals until Karl Malone injured him.
First man who invented the move was Dragan Kićanović from Partizan Belgrade in 70s.
There is not much videos, but today's Serbian and Yugoslavian coaches seeking about him as the inventor of the movie.
When I grow up in Israel every time my favorite team played against him, That most likely likely we are going to lose because he was very skilled and he was able to impose his will on the game
I grew up in Israel in the 90's and knew the move as The Yugoslavian Crossover. I was dumbfounded when I realized that American NBA players attribute it to Shammgod (although I have to admit that "Shammgod is a way cooler name).
This is an interesting video. Thing is, Shamgods name was cemented in college, before he ever played pro ball. The move you are referring to was only one of the things that made Shamgod a legend. For instance, he would come down the court with a really high dribble, inviting defenders to try for the steal. He'd then bring his dribble super low, and cook the defender. According to Kobe Bryant, after getting cooked in a hoop camp by him, Shamgod taught him how to dribble.
shammgod might have been later but his crossover was way more flashy and better looking
Bodiroga learned the move from Dragan Kicanovic who was a player in the 70's. Bodiroga said that himself
Cvjeticanin also learned the move from Kicanovic because at the beginning of his career he played with Kicanovic
Elgin Baylor had a Euro Step before Manu Ginobili but we still call it the Euro. I say it's even
Yup! Elgin… then you also had Dr J, David Thompson, Magic, Sidney Moncrief, Jordan… pulling similar stuff. So, yeah…
We here in NYC don’t know this dude but we definitely know Shamgod
Chris Paul did the bodiroga. The Shammgod was complete with a skip and throwing the ball out rather than dribbling it out. Way more stylish
Appreciate the history lesson.. but I'm gonna call it "shammgod".. he did it the most w ease when I was youngn.. we wasn't watching overseas hooper for various of reasons..but the main is it wasn't on tv & internet wasn't like it is today
Dejan Bodiroga - Panathinaikos Athens ☘️ legend
Honestly, it just a unique coincidence that they both perfected the same move with continents separating them.
Dejan Bodiroga > Predrag Stojaković. Everyone who watched both will say this, although Stojaković was hell of a player to.
Different players.... Stojakovic had better career overall, and was a better shooter by a mile... Bodiroga was more diverse and creative though....
@@Shiljamannn Oh God
Bodiroga by far better career
2x World Champion
3x European Champion
3x Euroleague
Olimpic finale
Bronze '99
6-7 Championship Spain, Greece, Italy
Stojakovic 1 NBA ring( as bench guy with 8 points), 1x World Champion and 1x European Champion
Stojakovic played for national team only to his 26 years and he was great in NBA in only 3-4 years
Bodiroga has about 20 titles, Stojakovic only 4-5
@@milosjovicevic6083 Stojaković struggled with injuries since 2005/06 and was never the same since that. He was a fantastic shooter and a great scorer overall, but was below average passer and rebounder. Bodiroga was versatile and had a perfect technique and basketball IQ. He was a clutch player and go-to guy in the national team, with Stojaković on the court. Stojaković choked more than once.
@@Shiljamannn Bodiroga was the main player in every team and decided the games, although Stojaković was a better shooter. Anyway, any coach would rather take Dejan than Peja. There is an answer.
Am Italian, but could tell that every Yugoslavian (or Serbian) legendary coaches would have chosen Bodiroga as their core team player above of Stojakovic and, let me say, probably, dealing with the NBA camparison, they'd even taken Rebraca as the starting center over Divac.
You have your own God, whom we respect! We have our own, and is called Bodiroga!
To be honest Dejan move is like a reverse crossover whereas Shammgod throws the ball out and snatches it the other way. If you look closely you'll see the difference.
Bodiroga played in slow motion but the thing is, he was rarely stopped. Similar as Luka Doncic, he is far from being the fastest in the league and yet poses the great threat
Exactly and to be honest ShammGod has way more grace, style, and finesse doing the move.
God Shamgodd what a god name
Best small forward ever pass from Europe, period...
So when did Dejan start using the crossover? His pro career did start earlier as Shammgod was not allowed to start his pro career while still in high school. But you didn't provide a time frame of when either player began using the move and tried to dismiss shammgod as just a street baller even though he actually did suit up in the nba
Dejan started using that dribble in the early 90s. Danko Cvjetićanin used it in the 80s, some other players also used it, like Predrag Saša Danilović, but the first player who used that particular dribble in Europe was Dragan Kićanović in the 70s. Cvjetićanin actually started his career in Partizan the same year Kićanović played his last season there, so he probably picked up that move from him.
N1! But no response from the salty i see...
@@alekstash I'm honestly not sure on what you just attempted to reply with.
@@KB-qk1ic even better...
Wow bro, that's some basketball knowledge....bravo from Serbija....
Well alright! Shout out to dude!
Oh yea, Peja was a SHOOTER 💫☄️!!
There is video of God Shammgod doing the Shammgod move while at Providence college in the NCAA tournament in like 1995 or 96. And he had been doing the move earlier than that when he played street ball.
Probably this Euroleague player is the first one to do it but if you saw it right now it’s very awkward, they have similarities but the one with Shammgod is more matured, having more flare and more quicker, more effective in todays standard and can setup almost any shots without problems. I might say they are different, just similar.
The difference in pivot foot, right?
Sjajan video. Bodiroga kod nas u Srbiji ima status boga, što i zaslužuje. Ipak, mala ispravka za vas. Ovaj potez pre Bodiroge izvodio i patentirao je godinama pre Dragan Kićanović.
In europe they are teaching us that move as "BODIROGA" who the hell is shamgod?
Don't be disrespectful, be thankful
We had that move during the 90s in Serbia during basketball, many of us basketball lovers. We can't guess who invented it, but my personal opinion is that it was created on a street court on a 3x3 or 2x2 basketball court. Greetings from the country of basketball, Serbia of course!
God Shamgod played for providence in 1995 and u know basketball in Europe was not televised in the states at all during that time out side of the Olympic Games so there is no way Shamgod could’ve copied that and he even said him self he was doin the move since he was a kid in street ball tournaments so I’m stickin wit the OG, Shamgod ….performed by GOD Shamgod
Dejan Bodiroga used it on Karl Malone in 1996 Olympics final😂 He later injured Bodiroga and told him "This is because you are making a fool of me in front of my fans". Anyway, Danko Cvjetićanin was doing that in the mid-80s, and some claim that Dragan Kićanović used the same crossover in the 70s.
Yes, the USA was a desert island and no information came from anywhere else in the world? OK
One of the coldest crossovers ever invented lol it never gets old becuz u can’t predict when someone is going to catch u with it. Shamgod is a beast for creating that move.
Shammgod just learned to use potty when players from ex-Yugoslavia did that move. Here you go, video from 1986: ruclips.net/video/v6fARNx8yTk/видео.html
Dejan Bodiroga is Luka before Luka
Nikad luka nemoze biti kao bodiroga
I saw Bodiroga play a few times in Madrid, he was something else.
Thank you. It is a Bodi Bond move.
you did very good job 👊👋👋👋
I like how you just disregard Shamgod doing the move in the late 80’s. 😂
Bruh, that's my point as well. Shamgod did this move in damn near the late 80's!
@@Wassupdun I’m from Oakland and I learned about Shamgod in 95 with no internet. They don’t get it 😂
Bodiroga may have introduced it, but Shammgod added the sauce to it.
Shammgod is the one and only Shammgod. Who learned from (Tiny Archibald) if I'm not mistaken. WE (America) don't know shit about none of you european ballers. Let alone follow them. Today it is possible but that ends without telephone internet, streaming and sharing information worldwide how we do today. this dude Dejan is a mystery to me........completely never heard of him....Luka is amazing because we don't rate you (Europe) as ball players generally. So he is a wonder and appreciated. Not expected. Props to Dejan but we ain't know about him over here!!!!
Jokic sends regards
Great video love stuff like this!
It is clear that the reason God Shammgod’s "Shammgod" became popular was due to him clearly having better handles than the player titled of the video, obviously the euro player was a far better basketball player and accomplished a lot more but Shammgod is the one that made the move iconic, y’all can’t put his name down as if he knew that European player and stole the move.
Strong point, i agree.
yeah, i also think he developed it independantly and thats why i have no problem americans calling it shamgod, while here in balkans we call it bodiroga.
but the claim that he made the move more iconic is very subjective and linked to your geographical position.
I want to remind myself and others not about moves of Bodiroga but about his mental strength. When it was the hardest moments, he was most stable and always pull us out. This guy is a legend, and yes we have a song where Bodiroga is called a god :) Mi imamo naseg boga, on se zove Bodiroga (We have our own god, his name is Bodiroga).
So are the European’s going to stop taking credit for the “euro step”? A move that was clearly introduced to the league By Elgin Baylor during his pro career.
No, because according to there delusional asses they invented every move.
Plus they're too busy celebrating participation trophies from the countless shitty tournaments they play.
Pete Maravich was doing this before the 1980’s:
ruclips.net/video/jZaL_SZhMPk/видео.html
And that’s in an era where the refs emphasized MUCH MORE the (dribbling) rules! Plus, there’s not a lot of Pistol Pete footage out there… who knows what more he was pulling off. Either way, Maravich was doing TONS of moves on the regular, that other players are credited for… Hakeem shakes, Rondo fakes, the Smitty, stutter dribbles, all types of crossovers, underhanded full-court passes, passing it off the backboard to himself, jelly layups, pulling up from anywhere in anyway (without the 3pt-line), crazy floaters, fake behind-the-back passes……… Baffling how overlooked his influence STILL is!
@@lastshallbefirst5516 Y’all? My father was black, so… take that shit elsewhere. Trying to assume something. Anyways, I was talking about the pros and players getting credited for moves that were done way before… same goes for Elgin Baylor and the eurostep. I know all of that about Pistol Pete; that’s why his game was like that no doubt, he got it from black folks (due to what you’ve said about his pops). Regarding Elvis… lmao… Chuck Berry did it better and before! And on a mainstream level too, just never became as big as Elvis because he was black, ofc…
@@lastshallbefirst5516 Damn… let it out, breh. All mad, blowing things out of proportion, c’mon now… Save that anger and that fake revolutionary shit for some real issues. Just some basketball moves discussion… plus, Pistol Pete been dead for ages, man always went out of his way to give credit to the best basketball players (black players), and his influence is still many times underrated. It ain’t that deep to be all mad like that…
@@lastshallbefirst5516 ruclips.net/video/gfWkiO2Iz08/видео.html
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Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Kobe Bryant, Elgin Baylor, Bob Lanier, Dr J, Tiny Archibald, LeBron James, Walt Frazier, Earl Monroe, Kyrie Irving, Stephen Curry……. speaking highly of Pete and his utmost influence… But your opinion means more I guess… lmao
@@lastshallbefirst5516 “Why would I be mad at a mafuka I don’t know, through the internet?”
Exactly… and still, there you are, mad as hell…
Bodiroga is a GOAT 🇷🇸🏀❤️🏆
Having him in the team was like playing with cheat-codes. A guy that can win you 90% of 1:1s. Confidence beyond the roof. And none of it fit his level of athleticism or demeanour. He was mostly shy and at times even a funny looking player... There was a running strategy/joke -"whenever you are tired or out of ideas, pass Bodiroga the ball and he will take care of business". Serbia/Yugoslavia hasn't won gold since he stopped playing (we won some silvers but with a lot of luck involved).
THE best european basketball player ever...
You wish.
@@Aletek I know :)
El látigo, con tilde en la A y fuerza sonora en la primera sílaba 😉
BIG CAPPPPPP!!! THIS Move has been in NYC since the 70s Malcolm X park in Brooklyn.
To bad you can't prove it
Actually, there's footage of Danko Cvjeticanin, a croatian legend, doing it first in the 80s
@@Luka-nw6kc I said the 70s
@@mr.richardson9673 first, there's no proof/evidence for your claim, and second, if danko cvjeticanin did it in game, that means he was doing that all his life, which also means that he was doing that back in 70s
@@Luka-nw6kc Allen Iverson crossover isn’t Allen Iversons. I saw that in D.C. way before Iverson. It’s called playground ball for a reason. Thats where all the moves were made. Look at early basketball and then watch when brothas started to play the game.
A pure legend, what a marvelous player.
What's funny is that there is a song in Serbia fans used to chant in the 90s "Mi imamo našeg Boga, to je Dejan Bodiroga." translating "We have our God, it's Dejan Bodiroga" so the guy's name being Shamgod which basically means hoax god is hilerous.
What is a hilerous?
@@arkadiuszrogala1359 a misspelled word.
The legendary situation is below; Basketball match Yugoslavia - USA Dream Team 1996. After the time out, the entire Yugoslav team moves away from the racket and Dejan Bodiroga goes 1 on 5 with the USA team. Because, when Bodiroga goes to the hoop, it's either a point or a foul by the opposing team. Video: ruclips.net/video/tn9lAyi7xF8/видео.html 1:31 min,
Would love to see him in today’s NBA
In this no-contact era of basketball, he would be toying easier than before. Bodiroga and Kobe are the two best 1on1 players of they era.
ruclips.net/video/DQEzmPKdqt4/видео.html SEX, DRUGS, BODIROGA !!!!
Due respect to Dejan...we rockin' with Shamgod fam.
Peace.
There are players who used that same crossover in the 80s, so no...
This is a great video. I really appreciate learning about people who are so outstanding who I have truly never heard of. But the fact that this European player mastered a move similar to the Shamgod, in which does not seem to be identical, can be a tribute to the both. An Italian invented something like the telephone a little before Alexander Graham Bell. I have no doubt that they did not track each other. But the building blocks a basketball in each location had to be at a level for that "invention" to have been a next step in both places. It's all the more impressive for a European since that is really not a European style and is much more individual type of game. I played ball in Europe and it reminded me of more old style college ball--no flash. Meat and potatoes pass, play and shoot.