I’ll never agree with anyone saying 94 Dorian still deserves the win. It was the ultimate opportunity for the judges to reward a picture perfect smaller guy - and simply say to Dorian “you can be a mass monster you don’t need to flow like Flex - but it needs to be controlled” ensuring the mass monsters still needed to be trim and crisp - obviously they didn’t do this and the rest is history
I was there. Dorian was so grainy. He looked like was sculpted out granite. Seen Ronnie, seen ,Jay, seen ,Phil, and curry at either on the olympia stage.. Nothing comes close to that look I witness from Yates. Truly mind boggling
Yes I have to agree with you@@DavidRichard-kn6ylI think Dorian Yates is underrated people don't realize how ripped he was is conditioning so Superior even to this day it's amazing how great he looked... I wish I was able to see him in person unfortunately I did see him in person but he had obviously clothes on on appearance of 1998 night of champions he was well retired if he was able to keep those muscles not torn apart and was able to keep the muscle that he achieved during offseason he would have been unbelievable if he was ripped at that size he gave up conditioning I'm sorry he gave up size for conditioning
@@gregggorypecs2370 What people do not understand and will never understand is that he was the only bodybuilder in the world to has skin you can see through, almost as if he didn't have skin.. However the Camera did not capture it properly in the 90s. If he was filmed today at his prime. There would be no argument
@@Juandinggong i had him in third that night. Hew peeled but flat. At the Gnc he was peeled and full. ... That package would have beat Ronnie at the Olympia
This very channel has covered that exact topic hundreds of times in their comparison vids. “Okay, so x has much better flow, separation, density and mass in every single muscle group, but you aren’t beating Ronnie in this pose.”
@shred9475 compared to who ? He is way bigger then most people give him credit for , the only reason people consider him tiny is because he doesn't have overdeloped delts , quads and traps. He managed to compete size wise with the top Mr Olympias at the time.
Frank Zane deserved every Mr Olympia he won and every non Mr Olympia he won. In the picture he showed of Frank Zane and set up terribly was everybody needs to go back and look at that picture. He was shredded and great posing and very aesthetic. This guy's videos are okay but this one sucks. I really like the bass monsters in the big guys put Frank Zane was incredible
Nothing worse than Franco winning - not even close. Having Derek in here is weird - he clearly deserved the win. And Zane? Really? One of the best physiques ever.
Uhhh the victory was by a hair, specially because everyone was off in 2023, and was a razor thin margin, the longer it goes the more i think had should have won that one
@@woahblackbettybamalam WTF? Have you ever seen a mmm video? The man is joking around. Literally the least serious channel in bodybuilding. Dont take everything too serious bro
@@rubenchwilkowski9855 Ive watched him for years but his disrespect has been crazy recently. Its not defendable, everyone in his comment section said it was very poor taste.
8:16 Hey man please get your history right, Franco Columbu never retired & was mentally competitive as Arnold. He suffered a horrific knee accident carrying a refrigerator competing in Worlds Strongest Man. He never liked Frank Zane's physique and always felt that he would always win against him. If Franco never got injured he would have competed against a prime Zane. It took him years to rehab his injury & won a settlement from WSM competition.
@Supersetman come on bro Kevin is really good but to be honest Phil's arms looks better than him in the pose and he is no where near Phil in the wheels so in my opinion Phil's hand most muscular is the greatest of all time
2:25 tells the entire picture of the 1980 Olympia. Mentzer has a bloated, distended stomach, non existant pecs and completely overdeveloped arms that destroy his flow due to the disparity in size compared to his shoulders. Mentzer has seen a renaissance in popularity due to nerds on the internet wanting to justify their only working out twice a week but the reality is that Arnold smokes him here because of his size and stature alone. The hard reality is that even Mentzer having his best day ever couldn't beat an Arnold Schwarzenegger at his absolute worst.
Totally agree!! Mentzer was 5th!! Not even close to Arnold. I've got all the magazines from the 1980 Olympia, and Arnold - overall - was the best on stage that day!!
@@junaidlabaso Then who should have won? Arnold looked good in 1980, although downsized. He still looked better than a lot of the short bloated dwarfs who won recently.
@@mikthe2004 I'm not a professional bodybuilding judge, but if you're just asking my opinion, Danny Padilla, Boyer Coe, or Chris Dickerson is more complete than arnold that year. Arnold's legs really dragged him down, and also his repetitive arm poses. The mandatories when they all supposed to hit side triceps, he hit the side bicep pose, that should've been a deduction or a DQ, but no, The competition was rigged. (To be fair Mike mentzer also didn't hit the side tricep the standard way, but its still showcasing the triceps)
Franco should NOT have won. Platz could have easily taken the win if the judging wasn't predetermined. NOT TO MENTION NASSER EL SOMBATY WHO WAS ROBBED IN 97
Mentzer is not an uncrowned MR O. his gut was bloated he had a torn trap and a flat chest, he didnt look good at the 1980 olympia/ Im not saying that Arnold should have won, im just saying Mentzer definitely placed accordingly
I totally agree with you! You always hear, Mentzer was robbed! But, the people that were there have said no one ever expected Mike to win. Or even Frank Zane for that matter. Like I say! He would have got Second place then. 5th was the right decision.
I agree that Dereks physique was subpar in 2023 but so was everyone else’s. Hadi was amazing in the front as usual but his back and shoulders were significantly off and Samson was nowhere near their condition.
After Jay I really struggle to differentiate 10th from 1st. Nobody, in my opinion, since Jay, had wowed me or were so visibly ahead of the rest of the pact.
dorians rear double did not win that year, his biceps were completely flat and his back wasnt even that much ahead of nasser that year., front lat spread was close since dorians stomach was bloated that year. Nassers wins were also way more dominant and we know that winning the most poses isnt the end all in bodybuilding which was demonstrated when shawn rhoden beat phill.
@@Iceman-xe7jono he is absolutely correct, they didn't give nasser the win because he criticized mr O. how it's run, poor payment of athletes, like shawn ray said, he could have went on the stsge in sheelchair and thy would still have given him the tittle
Another great video, but I would rate 97 Dorain over 81 Franco ! Dorian should have sat out the show and Ronnie as usual was looking worst then he was due to his poor posing!
97 Dorian gets too much criticism, despite his injuries he was absolutely massive. The HD posing footage shows he was still beating Nassar imo. His back was at its all time best too, people fainted when he hit the back lat spread lol
Dorian lost tremendously in front double . Very very badly . Like possibly the worst front double of all time. Front lat Dorian won but not by much . His left quad was also injured that year and totally destroyed his symmetry The side chest close but Nasser took it Side triceps Dorian won Both back poses Dorian wins . His back was bigger despite everything else being off . Abs and thighs Dorian’s midsection was too blown out for him to win . Also standing relaxed Dorian looked so horrible there is no way the poses he won should have propelled him to win
1 mr o has always the edge. ( Dorian,Ronnie, Phil) 2 taller body builders overtake shorter ones. ( Danny, Labrada,ray stood no chance against taller guys.) 3 longer legs are preferred.( nasir, nick walker) 4 this is a beauty contest.( you cannot measure points.)
There's absolutely no way Nasser beats Dorian over the 7 mandatory poses. OK, his front double biceps was poor because of the obvious injury, but there's 6 others and especially from the back, Dorian destroys Nasser.
Thank you for an interesting top. You deserve this like... but why in the description of the reasons why this or that athlete undeservedly received first place, are there no obvious and unacceptable even at a high level of amateur competitions (let alone professionals) body defects indicated? If the conversation turns to the topic of "ugliness" of some athletes, then only bloated bellies are remembered... but what about the terrible gynecomastia, square and triangular muscle groups or obvious "dips" in some places on the body due to illiterate use and / or low quality of oils for local enlargement of small muscle groups??? And I have not yet directly mentioned varicose veins. In the 90s, athletes like Nick Walker, Hadi Choopan, Big Ramy or the same Shawn Rhoden would hardly have been able to "squeeze" into the top 10... and now they also occupy first places at the "Olympia". It's mind-boggling!!!
Zane would have been the all time champ had sonething like classic physique been a thing. He had the textbook superhero look without being cartoony (i know, the irony).
Dorian Yates was awesome in 93, those black and white photos of him in Flex Magazine were jaw dropping at the time and that physique would have held up to today's standards. However, Shawn Ray should have won in 94 and 96, Kevin Levrone in 95 and Nasser El Sonbaty in 97.
actually i could easily add 2004 to the list. i dont care he was 296 lb, he was totally waterlogged, distension was gigantic. his left lat was already atrophied badly. in fact the ifbb issued an official mandate to streamline the waistlines after that show THAT is easily worthy of the top 10 worst phisiques.2001 isnt too shabby either but 04 is just a bigger version of it lol
@JamesBurden-d4u Ronnie's rear lat spread is honestly overrated, his bdb isn't but his lats only look that wide post 03 because of Jay Attophied Lats cutler is always next to him What was great about Ronnie was how he looked by himself, I think Ronnie looks the best by himself ever and is right there in terms of looking great when next to people. But I think after 2003 prejudging and I mean like from that day on, he was never on properly again until 2005
This is perfect to show to the "old school"lovers...Franco Columbu,and Chris Dickerson are a total mess,a disaster...but then,look at the other competitors on those years,most of them with the shape of a washing machine...and dont even get me started about Tom "peanut torn biceps"Platz,my fridge has a smaller mid section.
Samson is the worst ever. He doesn’t even qualify to compete, he wasn’t competition ready. Looked like he was 4 weeks out. Zero definition. Zero striations, zero vascularity. Just a big guy with off season conditioning. Over 300 at his height is proof.
Agree, Kais distention was just as bad as Phils, Phil was also in much better condition, it was a deserved win for him. I actually think Kai was a bit closer to beating him in 2012 compared to 2014.
Besides 97 what else ? Thats literally it . 94 despite being off he still destroyed Shawn ray in every pose besides abs and thighs an. Front double . And anyone who says 96 is smoking crack . 96 he was flat but more shredded than anyone . 93, 93 and 95 he fucking owned everyone .so what Years ?
That's not true, 92, 93, 95 he ran away with it with. 96 was probably deserved but I've not watched that one so much. I do think in 94 he improved as it went on. He could have lost it I think that one is a debate
Ain no way that version of Arnorld is below Phil, Ronnie, Dorian or Jay. That version of Arnold is top 2 and 3 easily. It is more controversial and look worse than any other physique above him, beside Franco Columbu
Coe, Mentzer and Dickerson. Arnie was standing on tooth picks. If it was Arnie in his 73 or 74 condition then lights out, even his 75 shape. Then again Oliva was robbed in 72 so hardly a big surprise
@@simonphoenix3018 funny how you are saying Arnie was on stilts while claiming Coe somehow outdid him lmao. Coe had extremely short bizeps, not the best chest and his overall proportions were bad compared to Arnie. Zane also had worse legs than Arnold. Looking at the lineup you won’t notice Arnolds legs that mich because he is taller. Mentzer also had little arguments against Arnold? Realistically Mentzer was better in the legs, back, forearms and triceps. His chest was extremely shallow, his midsection (outside the front double) blocky and his overall stature just too small. He looked like Arnolds little brother when they were standing next to each other. Arnold had the better overall physique and won the 2 of the 3 most important golden era poses: the side chest and the front double. As for Dickerson…yeah mate, you’re joking. Chris looked like a lump of shit. Zero proportions, small arms, narrow chest…the list goes on. There were only 2 guys who came close to Arnold that year and those were Roger Walker and Roy Callender. Walker being too soft and Callender a little too blocky. Overall Arnold had enough size to hang with everyone on the stage in his worse poses and dominate everyone on stage with his good poses. He also won the two most important aspects of the golden era: aesthetics and posing. There was only one guy on that stage who knew how to pose like Arnold and that was Ed Corney.
@@god985 We are well and truly in fan boy territory with you and I bet you weren't even born at the time! Come on son, we've all seen the following and you seriously cannot give it to Arnie. Coe had phenomenal arm development, unlike triceps lacking Arnie and lets not comment on Arnies amazing rear lat spread! I don't remember mentioning Zane? Mentzer was slightly down on Arnie when it came to chest, the rest of him wasn't. Blocky mid section? Are you seriously saying Arnold didn't have a wide waist?!!! Dickerson looked great on the night, better than in '82. ruclips.net/video/v5IqzOnJ98Q/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yFu_BTuAJXo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/MxvywqJUN0Q/видео.html ruclips.net/video/kLXemQ7GNX0/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ot93yeQjYY0/видео.html Arnies warm welcome as the winner! ruclips.net/video/J-rl-Rl6jio/видео.html Arnie in '80 wasn't as bad a win as Columbu in '81 which was a complete rip off, but it is up there.
@@simonphoenix3018 why would we comment on the rear lat spread when it wasn’t even judged as a mandatory back then ?🤡 On top of that there isn’t even any clear footage of the RLS to judge to begin with. Yeah man, Coe definitely looked better than Arnold and had bigger arms…sure…: pbs.twimg.com/media/EcxRRFMXoAAMLEj.jpg:large Here’s the reason Mentzer didn’t win, now cope and seethe: images.app.goo.gl/BqqjawkPxCMyvpmU6 Mentzer = bad flow, Roger = too soft and a little worse flow but close, Callender = great but a little too blocky, Dickerson = utter shit: images.app.goo.gl/zikhqUmsigYiN2QA9 The fact of the matter is that Arnold completely swiped the Symmetry Round and individual posing routine, like he always did and did enough to win in the comparisons as well. The only thing you could critique were his legs, but 1.) they weren’t even the worst on stage and 2.) they didn’t even stick out that much because nobody other than Platz, Walker and maybe Callender had huge quads back then. As for Arnolds back it was fine. Not his best performance but definitely enough to hang. Here’s him looking better than Coe: images.app.goo.gl/zikhqUmsigYiN2QA9 and here’s him schooling Mentzer on separation and symmetry (not size tho but again, it’s the golden era): encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRUzHhL38W4lyxkeaNsaWcDhIFaj0Fn9E09mQ&s From the front and side nobody was able to beat Arnie overall and don’t statt with the side tricep now because that wasn’t mandatory in the golden era either. Judging by golden era standards Arnie wins. His competition being salty, especially when Arnie was known to be a cock towards them, doesn’t mean shit. Zane literally whipped his trophy around and boycotted, when he was lucky to even be anywhere close to the top 10, let alone 3rd. I‘m done talking to you.
Much of what you said is absolute garbage. I follow your videos and this is my least favorite of any I've seen. When you say a guy Phil Heath what's one of the worst and then he goes on on when's the next three Olympians you have to realize you're wrong. However, the worst mistake is saying that Frank Zane didn't deserve his victories. Frank Zane had one of the most beautiful aesthetically pleasing physiques in the history of bodybuilding all time. He was chiseled and that was years before that look had got popular. He was also one of the greatest posers of all time. You need to pick out any Olympia that you don't think he should have won and sit by yourself with some popcorn and watch Frank Zane destroy everybody. There are a couple I agree with and the worst Mr Olympia look what's Franco in 1981. Nothing to do with any tears or injuries but his gyno was so bad it looked like he needed a bra. Back in the day there was a short class and a tall class. Franco won the short class at the Mr Olympia several times and was very impressive. However, 81 was a horrible look. Nasir was never going to beat Dorian. As soon as they turned around it was game over. Nasser took 7 to 10 anadrol per day for years. One of the most hated bodybuilders in ifbb history. He never squatted and never did any compound movements for his legs. He took enough anadrol for five guys and thought that was going to make him be able to win the Olympia without training squats or deadlifts. Instead, it cost him his life.
IMO there were Phil’s years . Even with the gut. Rohden had no bicep separation , no tricep, no lower back. Also rohden had gut but he could control it. He had best quad. Curry had great upper body but lacked lower body. Phil had top to bottom covered , front and back as well as sides covered.
His chest looks like a pancake in the front lat spread and only alright in the side chest, definitely poor by other Olympia standards and he's too short in my eyes to be Mr O
The disrespect to Frank Zane is crazy.
He looks like a swimmer not w bodybuilder
Amazing poser, amazing flow, totally deserved the title
Jus don’t understand the era
fitness model at best
He always looked too stringy.
I’ll never agree with anyone saying 94 Dorian still deserves the win. It was the ultimate opportunity for the judges to reward a picture perfect smaller guy - and simply say to Dorian “you can be a mass monster you don’t need to flow like Flex - but it needs to be controlled” ensuring the mass monsters still needed to be trim and crisp - obviously they didn’t do this and the rest is history
I was there. Dorian was so grainy. He looked like was sculpted out granite. Seen Ronnie, seen ,Jay, seen ,Phil, and curry at either on the olympia stage.. Nothing comes close to that look I witness from Yates. Truly mind boggling
Yes I have to agree with you@@DavidRichard-kn6ylI think Dorian Yates is underrated people don't realize how ripped he was is conditioning so Superior even to this day it's amazing how great he looked... I wish I was able to see him in person unfortunately I did see him in person but he had obviously clothes on on appearance of 1998 night of champions he was well retired if he was able to keep those muscles not torn apart and was able to keep the muscle that he achieved during offseason he would have been unbelievable if he was ripped at that size he gave up conditioning I'm sorry he gave up size for conditioning
@@gregggorypecs2370 What people do not understand and will never understand is that he was the only bodybuilder in the world to has skin you can see through, almost as if he didn't have skin.. However the Camera did not capture it properly in the 90s. If he was filmed today at his prime. There would be no argument
Sorry guys, Zane wasn't any more symmetrical or better flowing. He was just smaller.
Idk how Gunther did not won 2002 Mr. Olympia
@@Juandinggong Politics, but Gunter did beat Ronnie & win the GNC Show of Strength (SOS) a week later👍
@@Juandinggong i had him in third that night. Hew peeled but flat. At the Gnc he was peeled and full. ... That package would have beat Ronnie at the Olympia
This very channel has covered that exact topic hundreds of times in their comparison vids. “Okay, so x has much better flow, separation, density and mass in every single muscle group, but you aren’t beating Ronnie in this pose.”
Frank zane take is ridiculous, the guy had one of the best physiques of the golden era and he is way bigger then most people actually think
He is tiny
@shred9475 compared to who ? He is way bigger then most people give him credit for , the only reason people consider him tiny is because he doesn't have overdeloped delts , quads and traps.
He managed to compete size wise with the top Mr Olympias at the time.
frank weighed 189lbs when he won his mr O title at five foot nine
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EVERY version of Frank Zane... lol... someone call the fire brigade
Shots fired indeed 😂
Frank Zane deserved every Mr Olympia he won and every non Mr Olympia he won. In the picture he showed of Frank Zane and set up terribly was everybody needs to go back and look at that picture. He was shredded and great posing and very aesthetic. This guy's videos are okay but this one sucks. I really like the bass monsters in the big guys put Frank Zane was incredible
@@alanbialeck948frank Zane was a great fitness model
This guy is disrespecting Zane because he lacked size...? Ok... stupid take.
@@rogerrousco2921I was thinking underwear model. He could have had a contract with fruit of the loom.
Franco's mad gyno .. jees
Nothing worse than Franco winning - not even close. Having Derek in here is weird - he clearly deserved the win. And Zane? Really? One of the best physiques ever.
Yeah, totally agree!!
Uhhh the victory was by a hair, specially because everyone was off in 2023, and was a razor thin margin, the longer it goes the more i think had should have won that one
Derek should most definitely be on the list
Zane Arnold and Chris Dickerson are the most underwhelming Mr o physiques of all time
this one will be good!
Did you ever apologise to Raphael Brandao for insinuating his wife was lusting after Bonac?
@@woahblackbettybamalam WTF? Have you ever seen a mmm video? The man is joking around. Literally the least serious channel in bodybuilding. Dont take everything too serious bro
@@rubenchwilkowski9855 Ive watched him for years but his disrespect has been crazy recently. Its not defendable, everyone in his comment section said it was very poor taste.
@@woahblackbettybamalamComedy and things of that nature
8:16 Hey man please get your history right, Franco Columbu never retired & was mentally competitive as Arnold. He suffered a horrific knee accident carrying a refrigerator competing in Worlds Strongest Man. He never liked Frank Zane's physique and always felt that he would always win against him. If Franco never got injured he would have competed against a prime Zane. It took him years to rehab his injury & won a settlement from WSM competition.
Watched that injury moment couple of weeks ago, wasn't nicest thing to see
Next video on Phil heath in hand's most muscular V's everyone 😺
Isn't Kevin Levrone more famous for that pose?
@Supersetman come on bro Kevin is really good but to be honest Phil's arms looks better than him in the pose and he is no where near Phil in the wheels so in my opinion Phil's hand most muscular is the greatest of all time
@@SthiwatariI think Ronnie beats both in it
@@scerkann3966 Coleman is my favourite but his delts and arms were no where near both Kevin and Phil
@Sthiwatari his arms are actually bigger and better in picture comparisons and his chest is miles ahead. Ronnie is also more detailed
Sergio "The Myth" Oliva
Roy "Reg" Park
Robbie"The Black Prince" Robinson
Most complete physiques of all time imo
You could call this video "10 uncrowned Mr O bodybuilders"
arnold had girl legs
wrapped around his waist
@@mlongpre100Yeah. No. He straight up had chick legs.
As a die hard fan of the sport the politics and favoritism really do a lot of damage to our sport and this will never change.
derek lunsford looks like a refrigerator he is too blocky and had zero bicep peaks he just sucks
@@robertomoncada6912 Agreed and those lumps. Had him 4th both years, in fact his first olympia was his best package
Zane's aesthetics more than made up for his lack of size.
Mentioning him in this video is disgraceful.
2:25 tells the entire picture of the 1980 Olympia.
Mentzer has a bloated, distended stomach, non existant pecs and completely overdeveloped arms that destroy his flow due to the disparity in size compared to his shoulders.
Mentzer has seen a renaissance in popularity due to nerds on the internet wanting to justify their only working out twice a week but the reality is that Arnold smokes him here because of his size and stature alone. The hard reality is that even Mentzer having his best day ever couldn't beat an Arnold Schwarzenegger at his absolute worst.
Totally agree!! Mentzer was 5th!! Not even close to Arnold. I've got all the magazines from the 1980 Olympia, and Arnold - overall - was the best on stage that day!!
@@mikthe2004Mentzer didnt even said that he shouldve won, he only said that arnold shouldnt be the winner
@@junaidlabaso Then who should have won? Arnold looked good in 1980, although downsized. He still looked better than a lot of the short bloated dwarfs who won recently.
@@mikthe2004 I'm not a professional bodybuilding judge, but if you're just asking my opinion, Danny Padilla, Boyer Coe, or Chris Dickerson is more complete than arnold that year. Arnold's legs really dragged him down, and also his repetitive arm poses.
The mandatories when they all supposed to hit side triceps, he hit the side bicep pose, that should've been a deduction or a DQ, but no, The competition was rigged. (To be fair Mike mentzer also didn't hit the side tricep the standard way, but its still showcasing the triceps)
Well said.
No, no, Chris Dickerson was the worst ever due to his pure lack of size and those steriod/ HGH elbows.
Yup , worst ever.
Chris Dickerson was screwing Joe weider. It was a quit pro quo.
"Pointy elbows"?
What can he possibly do if he has pointy elbows?
It was due to steroids use.
1-1981 Franco
2-1980 Arnold
3-97 Yates
4-07 cutler
5-01 Coleman (the year he drank gallon water before prejudging ?)
Franco should NOT have won. Platz could have easily taken the win if the judging wasn't predetermined.
NOT TO MENTION NASSER EL SOMBATY WHO WAS ROBBED IN 97
You're a low IQ little girl
Yates 94 also gh gut and torn bicep
This 💯💯💯
@@bradfordmcdermott2063 yeah but as bad as Yates looked in 94 he brought enough to beat Shawn ray . Especially at the night show . 97 was a damn mess
Franco winning made Zane quit bbing
"he had a b*tch tit" -Frank Zane 😂😂😂
Mentzer is not an uncrowned MR O. his gut was bloated he had a torn trap and a flat chest, he didnt look good at the 1980 olympia/ Im not saying that Arnold should have won, im just saying Mentzer definitely placed accordingly
I totally agree with you! You always hear, Mentzer was robbed! But, the people that were there have said no one ever expected Mike to win. Or even Frank Zane for that matter. Like I say! He would have got Second place then. 5th was the right decision.
Be careful, the rabid Mentzer fanboys are gonna come at you for this one.
I agree that Dereks physique was subpar in 2023 but so was everyone else’s. Hadi was amazing in the front as usual but his back and shoulders were significantly off and Samson was nowhere near their condition.
It's a video about the *worst* mr Olympia winner physiques, not about Bad lineup
All Shapes of king gut gyno Coleman. Always pregnant of seven months.
After Jay I really struggle to differentiate 10th from 1st. Nobody, in my opinion, since Jay, had wowed me or were so visibly ahead of the rest of the pact.
Mike was robbed in 1980 and 1981. Franco in 1981 also had gyno
How in the world did u not mention Fancos gyno
He’s a sucker for Arnold duh!
Derek eats instant food
Dorians last 2 for me were beyond mid those tears looking horrible
Love Ronnie but 2002 Ronnie was right up there. His small arms threw everything off.
You suck, never disrespect Frank Zane.
Bodybuilding will not make you more manly "dude"
@@carliux6426 You hate Frank Zane?
Dorian made the list twice , he is the greatest of the worst .
Dorian won 4-3. It’s not a pretty contest. ST, FLS, RDB, RLS. Game over.
dorians rear double did not win that year, his biceps were completely flat and his back wasnt even that much ahead of nasser that year., front lat spread was close since dorians stomach was bloated that year. Nassers wins were also way more dominant and we know that winning the most poses isnt the end all in bodybuilding which was demonstrated when shawn rhoden beat phill.
@ that’s incorrect.
@@Iceman-xe7jono he is absolutely correct, they didn't give nasser the win because he criticized mr O. how it's run, poor payment of athletes, like shawn ray said, he could have went on the stsge in sheelchair and thy would still have given him the tittle
@@Matthew_1904 that’s incorrect
@@Iceman-xe7jo your whole opinion is incorrect
Arnold for 80 MR.O only trained 8 weeks while the others trained a year but they never bring that up
Franco hurt his leg running with a frig on his back at the strongman contest
2:05 arnold what?
Arnold scharznigger 💀💀💀
nigga you are just a arnold biased guy.... mike mentzer was true deserving....
Another great video, but I would rate 97 Dorain over 81 Franco ! Dorian should have sat out the show and Ronnie as usual was looking worst then he was due to his poor posing!
97 Dorian gets too much criticism, despite his injuries he was absolutely massive. The HD posing footage shows he was still beating Nassar imo. His back was at its all time best too, people fainted when he hit the back lat spread lol
True, but also not true!
Totally correct he still won more poses ....lol I don't care if he was last in the other poses ...your right he won more.....have a good day
@@Supersetman Watch the HD footage
Dorian lost tremendously in front double . Very very badly . Like possibly the worst front double of all time.
Front lat Dorian won but not by much . His left quad was also injured that year and totally destroyed his symmetry
The side chest close but Nasser took it
Side triceps Dorian won
Both back poses Dorian wins . His back was bigger despite everything else being off .
Abs and thighs Dorian’s midsection was too blown out for him to win . Also standing relaxed Dorian looked so horrible there is no way the poses he won should have propelled him to win
He had a massive gut thats for sure
Stop hating on Brandon curry, he was a great champion
His upper body is astounding, but the calves especially are really unproportionate
Absolutely not, should've been 4 places higher on this list
Spot on
Zane should have been bigger with the sheer amount of steriods he was taking, he wasnt called the "chemist" for nothing
1 mr o has always the edge. ( Dorian,Ronnie, Phil)
2 taller body builders overtake shorter ones. ( Danny, Labrada,ray stood no chance against taller guys.)
3 longer legs are preferred.( nasir, nick walker)
4 this is a beauty contest.( you cannot measure points.)
Dorian 97 was the absolute worst
Yes, front double biceps ONLY. There's no way Nasser beats him over ALL 7 mandatory poses. No way!
There's absolutely no way Nasser beats Dorian over the 7 mandatory poses. OK, his front double biceps was poor because of the obvious injury, but there's 6 others and especially from the back, Dorian destroys Nasser.
Awesome video
Tom platz is the winner of the 1981 olympia idk what you're talking about
You mean Danny Padilla?
2:04 who?
It pains me to see Dorian on this list, even twice. Not saying the list is wrong but he does deserve the fame that came with these titles.
Ganter beat Ronald.
Hadi for me is a 4 time olympia champion,2019,2021,2022 and 2023
I think I agree!
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv you have no idea🤣
No. He had VERY suspicious delts...
I agree 3 time champ. He was smaller early years and Curry was huge and shredded.
I dont know, i have a problem with his attitude when losing
Thank you for an interesting top. You deserve this like... but why in the description of the reasons why this or that athlete undeservedly received first place, are there no obvious and unacceptable even at a high level of amateur competitions (let alone professionals) body defects indicated? If the conversation turns to the topic of "ugliness" of some athletes, then only bloated bellies are remembered... but what about the terrible gynecomastia, square and triangular muscle groups or obvious "dips" in some places on the body due to illiterate use and / or low quality of oils for local enlargement of small muscle groups??? And I have not yet directly mentioned varicose veins. In the 90s, athletes like Nick Walker, Hadi Choopan, Big Ramy or the same Shawn Rhoden would hardly have been able to "squeeze" into the top 10... and now they also occupy first places at the "Olympia". It's mind-boggling!!!
DORIAN YATES HAD TOO MANY FLAWS!!! DONT SEE HOW HE ONE EVEN 1 TIME!
Don't need likes, IF YOU LOOK AT HIS PHYSIQUE ANYONE CAN SEE THEM. AND WHEN HE STANDS BESIDE OTHERS HE LOOK WORSE!
Wa wa
Zane would have been the all time champ had sonething like classic physique been a thing. He had the textbook superhero look without being cartoony (i know, the irony).
Bro number 6 should be the worst. That physique is straight up bad
shawn should have beat dorian that year, but since i absolutely despise shawn ray im not too mad about it.
Definitely franco for worst ever but arnold 80 is a close 2nd ....
this years winner should be #1
D.Y. 👑
Arnold must've been on first place instead of 8
Sergio olivia deserve more olympias.
Gunter was robbed
mentzer 40ys tantrum...he took 5th place, not the second. Bah
Steroid Freak Show! It will catch up to all of them someday!
cope dyel
platz got robbed
No quads
Just Dorian all day...No good 😮😮
Dorian Yates was awesome in 93, those black and white photos of him in Flex Magazine were jaw dropping at the time and that physique would have held up to today's standards.
However, Shawn Ray should have won in 94 and 96, Kevin Levrone in 95 and Nasser El Sonbaty in 97.
Frank Zane doesn't belong on that list!
Ronnie 2002 is not on this list, youre only thinking so because of his comparative physiques,l
actually i could easily add 2004 to the list. i dont care he was 296 lb, he was totally waterlogged, distension was gigantic. his left lat was already atrophied badly.
in fact the ifbb issued an official mandate to streamline the waistlines after that show
THAT is easily worthy of the top 10 worst phisiques.2001 isnt too shabby either but 04 is just a bigger version of it lol
@JamesBurden-d4u Ronnie's rear lat spread is honestly overrated, his bdb isn't but his lats only look that wide post 03 because of Jay Attophied Lats cutler is always next to him
What was great about Ronnie was how he looked by himself, I think Ronnie looks the best by himself ever and is right there in terms of looking great when next to people. But I think after 2003 prejudging and I mean like from that day on, he was never on properly again until 2005
Jay cutler 2001??? You know NOTHING about BB it’s his best bar 09
02 Ronnie destroys Derek hahah
Fala mal do frank zane, mas não fala mal do mr synthol hadi chopan.
This is perfect to show to the "old school"lovers...Franco Columbu,and Chris Dickerson are a total mess,a disaster...but then,look at the other competitors on those years,most of them with the shape of a washing machine...and dont even get me started about Tom "peanut torn biceps"Platz,my fridge has a smaller mid section.
Your fridge gotta be jacked 😂😂😂
@axeldaval3410 😂😂
It's uncommon that anyone else on stage is actually good when a bad physique wins.
Dorian Yates front double biceps pose not that impressive.
So is it disgraceful or weakest me O's?
Chris dickerson dhiuld be number 1
Samson is the worst ever. He doesn’t even qualify to compete, he wasn’t competition ready. Looked like he was 4 weeks out. Zero definition. Zero striations, zero vascularity. Just a big guy with off season conditioning. Over 300 at his height is proof.
I disagree with you.
Phil's 2014 mr O win isn't controversial, such a bs, look at the pics from finals, not prejudging only
Agree, Kais distention was just as bad as Phils, Phil was also in much better condition, it was a deserved win for him. I actually think Kai was a bit closer to beating him in 2012 compared to 2014.
@ most probably, although we have to remember phil came great in prejudging and always came even better at nightshow
history vids are good
Supersetboy came in the clown car with this video 😂😂😂😂😂
Franco is one of the worst to win
Most of Dorian's wins were gifted. Miserable.
@@NikosNikos-dr7wvAre you joking😂
Besides 97 what else ? Thats literally it . 94 despite being off he still destroyed Shawn ray in every pose besides abs and thighs an. Front double . And anyone who says 96 is smoking crack . 96 he was flat but more shredded than anyone . 93, 93 and 95 he fucking owned everyone .so what Years ?
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv Ronnie 2001 and 2002, 98 was also tight
@@NikosNikos-dr7wvu might be the biggest hater and Dorian fanboy ever.
That's not true, 92, 93, 95 he ran away with it with. 96 was probably deserved but I've not watched that one so much. I do think in 94 he improved as it went on. He could have lost it I think that one is a debate
Brandon Curry was one of the best MO ever, what on earth are you talking about dude?
Yea. I dont understand that one. Dickerson should be number 1
Ain no way that version of Arnorld is below Phil, Ronnie, Dorian or Jay. That version of Arnold is top 2 and 3 easily. It is more controversial and look worse than any other physique above him, beside Franco Columbu
Compared to other competitors he looks solid and outmasssed most of them. Meth menzer was bloated with weak chest.
@@zadd596mentzer also has the worst back of all time at the Olympia level. No idea why people think he should’ve won
@@zadd596 Arnold looks like a skinny tall dude with no condition compared to Mentzer. The front double bicep is not the only pose to secure the win
@@LionsinofStraightNo legs Arnold🫣🤣
@@zadd596meth Mentzer? Dude grow up. Smh
Yeah Franco 81 should have placed somewhere in the 6-8 spots 😂 so he was gifted probably 5 or 6 positions. Ridiculous
Name one person who looked better than Arnold
@ Danny was definitely robbed with his placing but he had nothing on Arnold
Coe, Mentzer and Dickerson. Arnie was standing on tooth picks. If it was Arnie in his 73 or 74 condition then lights out, even his 75 shape. Then again Oliva was robbed in 72 so hardly a big surprise
@@simonphoenix3018 funny how you are saying Arnie was on stilts while claiming Coe somehow outdid him lmao. Coe had extremely short bizeps, not the best chest and his overall proportions were bad compared to Arnie. Zane also had worse legs than Arnold. Looking at the lineup you won’t notice Arnolds legs that mich because he is taller.
Mentzer also had little arguments against Arnold? Realistically Mentzer was better in the legs, back, forearms and triceps. His chest was extremely shallow, his midsection (outside the front double) blocky and his overall stature just too small. He looked like Arnolds little brother when they were standing next to each other. Arnold had the better overall physique and won the 2 of the 3 most important golden era poses: the side chest and the front double.
As for Dickerson…yeah mate, you’re joking. Chris looked like a lump of shit. Zero proportions, small arms, narrow chest…the list goes on.
There were only 2 guys who came close to Arnold that year and those were Roger Walker and Roy Callender. Walker being too soft and Callender a little too blocky.
Overall Arnold had enough size to hang with everyone on the stage in his worse poses and dominate everyone on stage with his good poses. He also won the two most important aspects of the golden era: aesthetics and posing. There was only one guy on that stage who knew how to pose like Arnold and that was Ed Corney.
@@god985 We are well and truly in fan boy territory with you and I bet you weren't even born at the time! Come on son, we've all seen the following and you seriously cannot give it to Arnie. Coe had phenomenal arm development, unlike triceps lacking Arnie and lets not comment on Arnies amazing rear lat spread! I don't remember mentioning Zane? Mentzer was slightly down on Arnie when it came to chest, the rest of him wasn't. Blocky mid section? Are you seriously saying Arnold didn't have a wide waist?!!! Dickerson looked great on the night, better than in '82.
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Arnie in '80 wasn't as bad a win as Columbu in '81 which was a complete rip off, but it is up there.
@@simonphoenix3018 why would we comment on the rear lat spread when it wasn’t even judged as a mandatory back then ?🤡
On top of that there isn’t even any clear footage of the RLS to judge to begin with.
Yeah man, Coe definitely looked better than Arnold and had bigger arms…sure…: pbs.twimg.com/media/EcxRRFMXoAAMLEj.jpg:large
Here’s the reason Mentzer didn’t win, now cope and seethe: images.app.goo.gl/BqqjawkPxCMyvpmU6
Mentzer = bad flow, Roger = too soft and a little worse flow but close, Callender = great but a little too blocky, Dickerson = utter shit: images.app.goo.gl/zikhqUmsigYiN2QA9
The fact of the matter is that Arnold completely swiped the Symmetry Round and individual posing routine, like he always did and did enough to win in the comparisons as well. The only thing you could critique were his legs, but 1.) they weren’t even the worst on stage and 2.) they didn’t even stick out that much because nobody other than Platz, Walker and maybe Callender had huge quads back then.
As for Arnolds back it was fine. Not his best performance but definitely enough to hang. Here’s him looking better than Coe: images.app.goo.gl/zikhqUmsigYiN2QA9 and here’s him schooling Mentzer on separation and symmetry (not size tho but again, it’s the golden era): encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRUzHhL38W4lyxkeaNsaWcDhIFaj0Fn9E09mQ&s
From the front and side nobody was able to beat Arnie overall and don’t statt with the side tricep now because that wasn’t mandatory in the golden era either.
Judging by golden era standards Arnie wins. His competition being salty, especially when Arnie was known to be a cock towards them, doesn’t mean shit. Zane literally whipped his trophy around and boycotted, when he was lucky to even be anywhere close to the top 10, let alone 3rd.
I‘m done talking to you.
Much of what you said is absolute garbage. I follow your videos and this is my least favorite of any I've seen. When you say a guy Phil Heath what's one of the worst and then he goes on on when's the next three Olympians you have to realize you're wrong. However, the worst mistake is saying that Frank Zane didn't deserve his victories. Frank Zane had one of the most beautiful aesthetically pleasing physiques in the history of bodybuilding all time. He was chiseled and that was years before that look had got popular. He was also one of the greatest posers of all time. You need to pick out any Olympia that you don't think he should have won and sit by yourself with some popcorn and watch Frank Zane destroy everybody. There are a couple I agree with and the worst Mr Olympia look what's Franco in 1981. Nothing to do with any tears or injuries but his gyno was so bad it looked like he needed a bra. Back in the day there was a short class and a tall class. Franco won the short class at the Mr Olympia several times and was very impressive. However, 81 was a horrible look.
Nasir was never going to beat Dorian. As soon as they turned around it was game over. Nasser took 7 to 10 anadrol per day for years. One of the most hated bodybuilders in ifbb history. He never squatted and never did any compound movements for his legs. He took enough anadrol for five guys and thought that was going to make him be able to win the Olympia without training squats or deadlifts. Instead, it cost him his life.
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Good job
Dickerson and Arnold 80 were still much better than literally every other guy on stage.
Mentzer Platz Victor ALL WERE ABSOLUTELY ROBBED!!!
Derrick beat hadi. Quit crying
Hadi is less gifted than derek. This year derek got wider which made his legs appear smaller. Samson wins easily as taller bodybuilder.
Samsoff 2024 was worse than Franco Columbu
How delusional do you have to be to believe this?
@@ajsbd3815 truth is hard and cold
😂😂😂 Good one
And Franku had nice gyno as well.
2019 hadi was most definitely robbed
Hadi legs particularly the inner thighs are not world class.
@bigd7696I think his wide frame makes it appear like that.
it gets harder as you get older it requires twice the effort than someone a lot younger .....You can only do your best at what you have .....duhhh 🤪
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Rhoden and Curry. Never ever did they win the O👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
IMO there were Phil’s years . Even with the gut. Rohden had no bicep separation , no tricep, no lower back. Also rohden had gut but he could control it. He had best quad.
Curry had great upper body but lacked lower body. Phil had top to bottom covered , front and back as well as sides covered.
arnolds worst physique in 1980 was still leagues better than anyone else lmao
Not sure if you're looking at the same physic with Lundsford. In my opinion he has one of the most complete physics. And his chest is very full.
His chest looks like a pancake in the front lat spread and only alright in the side chest, definitely poor by other Olympia standards and he's too short in my eyes to be Mr O
You are an absolut ignorant , Frank Zane is a máster piece of bodybuilding, your vision is an absurdo!!!