True. Plus tunneling is sometimes a really effective strategy. The amount of times where I tunnel at 1 gen bc it’s a lost cause and somehow I pull up 4K is really shocking. That’s why I can understand why a lot of killers do it. It brings the survivors to them and it takes them off of gens
There's one core issue in this - tunnelling is a good strategy when it's not happening at 5 gens. But tunnelling at 5 gens just screams skill issue - because it's so sad that your brain can only conjure up _one_ viable strategy which is so common and uncreative and frankly mean. You are not only taking away from the fun of that targeted survivor, you are just unfun in general. Do it for money instead, what will you get out of doing this in solo queue. The first clip of this video? It happened to me in Chaos Modifier - actively targeting me because I have no mither. Imagine sweating in a mode which is meant for fun. Smh. PS - I love the ending. Dishes out toxicity, but can't even take it.
I think you nailed all the points in this video. Tunneling is not my usual strategy (I am more unfun than that), but of course if someone just gets unhooked and is crouching under a pallet nearby I will take the free down if I'm around - I don't even think his first tunnel was unjustified or bad strategy. I would have done the same. But mindlessly tunneling the first survivor you see at 5 gens is rarely a good strategy if survivors are decent and/or coordinated, and while I can definitely take it there is a population of newer players out there that will get unneled 5 matches in a row every time they log in and just quit. And we need those new people. There is a landslide between tunneling (or camping, slugging, whatever) because it makes sense, and tunneling to make someone's day miserable - that is something I really despise. And yeah, cherry on top, can't even take the same energy he put into the game
5 Gens getting done in 5 minutes, most Killers doesn't have the power to apply map pression, a lot of gen defence perks has been and will be nerfed, strong Killers being nerfed, but yeah. Tunneling for a chance to Kill more than 1 survivor is Skill Issue for shure..
@@tfcbioshock someone could come in and comment that Freddy needs a buff and I would agree with that too, but it has nothing to do with what I talk about in this video. Really, watch/read the entire thing before commenting. It's something that will be useful to you in real life.
I think you have to take in consideration why someone tunnels. If you tunnel straight off the bat then that is a skill issue. I play killer a lot and I’m being honest with you, the majority of the matches you play you do not have to town even when there’s a toxic Swf
I haven't dealt with tunneling as much compared to when I first started. But even if it happens, the killer having tunnel vision for me only is gonna make them lose gens. The other evening I was playing with a new friend I made. She was doing gens, while I ran tiffany (chucky's gf) for 3 almost 4 gens at mother's dwelling. And despite she didn't get me on the hook once, only managed to hit me through a pallet at the start of the chase. Idek what kind of build she had until the end, no way out and noed popped up, but wasn't enough either way. Thankfully Jill had deliverance (from saving someone else earlier) and got out from basement. My team got their gate opened and left, I went for the other gate (remember me made it take longer). I took my chance to go back for the gate my team had opened, but instead found hatch nearby the 2nd gate I was trying to open. Checked the build tiffany had afterwards, and I was glad they left to avoid a surprise blood warden.
Tunneling is only a good play when it makes sense. Blindly tunneling someone because some streamer said it's a good strategy is of course gonna backfire, like in this case. Glad u juiced them!
I wish behavior would understand that nerfing gen regression perks and buffing sabotaging is just gonna encourage more tunneling. Especially killers that are just M1. It just makes the game unfun for everyone involved.
the one thing that I think is annoying about tunneling is that it kind of keeps newer players from enjoying the game so its just not really good for the growth of the game also the face camp system is completely ineffective the range is just so small it does not make a difference and the resolve fills so slowly I think the range should be increases and if the resolve meter is how u get off hook then u should get a free sprint burst rather then a little haste
Honestly up until now the only time I wasn't able to unhook myself on a camping killer was because teammates were hovering without saving, preventing me from getting it :| you do get a longer sprint burst and a longer endurance actually if it activates tho! And I agree they should add a free anti tunnel perk, as a common one, instead of it having to be locked behind shards/real money
Now imagine you play a weak killer with no chase power like Legion or Myers (they want to nerf Legion next Patch btw) and you get a full Team with Toolboxes. Dont you have to tunnel at 5 Gens at Situations like these? I mean with how Gen Speeds are nowadays you will lose 3 Gens after first Chase regardless if it last long or not.
also, am I the only one who doesn't mind doing gens? I like mundane tasks in games, I think it's relaxing, but also unnerving when it's a ghostface or another stealth killer. they have never really been boring to me.
i try to seperate cases of tunneling into two different types of tunneling, 'hard tunneling' and just 'tunneling'. tunneling is fine, while hard tunneling is the one that's actually unfun. hard tunneling would be something like tunneling at 5 gens, ignoring bodyblocks and trying your literal hardest to down that one survivor and no one else. and I would honestly say that this blight wasn't hard tunneling. yes, he did hook you twice at 5 gens, but after the 2nd unhook he could've easily went after you (i'm very convinced that he could see your scratch marks there), but he didn't and kept chasing someone else instead. in the end, everyone got out, he got his hooks, and everything ended fine. i also can't call this hard tunneling because the blight hit you while you were being healed, and not going after the injured one when survivors are healing is just a stupid thing to do. tl;dr: tunneling is fine, hard tunneling (i.e. ignoring bodyblocks and other survivors to kill someone as early as possible) isn't fun for either side
I got hard tunneled bc I ran clown for 4 gens. I got pallet and flashlight saved before that. Bro was fuming, camping hook and throwing 3 bottles is any direction 😂 Even though I died, happy since he got mad
I think every playstyle is ok - if you are not cheating or exploiting, you can play the game however you want. It is also true that some playstyles can be unfun for less experienced people, and why tunneling at 5 gens, even when it's actually not the most convenient options, allows people to roll a lot of survivors, making soloq frustrating or simply being new frustrating. I am NOT opposed to tunneling at all! If I deem it the best play I do it myself, even at 5 gens - I mean, survivors would surely not slow down on gens to let you catch up, if it was their turn; this video is more about being able to handle the vibe you bring into a match. Also, sadly scratchmarks are bugged or intentionally changed and they disappear A LOT around corners and are inconsistent. |:
Nah let´s be honest, people don´t like chases because they suck at chases everysingle person that complains in my games always last long 2 seconds maximum 3 and then DC or troll the match.
I do know quite some people that are really good at looping but wanna partecipate in the cycle of normal gameplay - and I can understand why. Even I get salty when I have a "repair 3 generators" challenge and I can't touch a single gen for multiple matches, wether I escape in the end or not. But yes, surely if everyone could loop well (not well like me, well like REALLY WELL) the game would see a lot less tunneling and a lot more deadzoning, which I would argue is way more unfun (said by someone that has made deadzoning, map pressure and outpositioning their playstyle)
If you don’t like tunneling then maybe stop bringing crutch perks or being overly altruistic? You literally have to tunnel on high mmr all your favorite streamers have literally told you that tunneling is key if you want to go on win streaks otz literally has to ask his chat for permission to tunnel people 😂
@@rowdyruffmojo nobody said you can’t win games at high mmr without tunneling you can get lucky and 12 hook if the survivors are goofy and don’t do gens .. nobody in high mmr that goes on win streaks 12 hooks every game , it’s not realistic at all .. stop lying to fit your rulebook and narrative
Obviously tunneling sucks when done at 5 gens but you can't blame a killer when they tunnel at 1 or no gens left
I wouldn't blame anyone for how they play! It was more about this guy not being able to handle their same vibe :D
True. Plus tunneling is sometimes a really effective strategy. The amount of times where I tunnel at 1 gen bc it’s a lost cause and somehow I pull up 4K is really shocking. That’s why I can understand why a lot of killers do it. It brings the survivors to them and it takes them off of gens
There's one core issue in this - tunnelling is a good strategy when it's not happening at 5 gens. But tunnelling at 5 gens just screams skill issue - because it's so sad that your brain can only conjure up _one_ viable strategy which is so common and uncreative and frankly mean. You are not only taking away from the fun of that targeted survivor, you are just unfun in general. Do it for money instead, what will you get out of doing this in solo queue.
The first clip of this video? It happened to me in Chaos Modifier - actively targeting me because I have no mither. Imagine sweating in a mode which is meant for fun. Smh.
PS - I love the ending. Dishes out toxicity, but can't even take it.
I think you nailed all the points in this video.
Tunneling is not my usual strategy (I am more unfun than that), but of course if someone just gets unhooked and is crouching under a pallet nearby I will take the free down if I'm around - I don't even think his first tunnel was unjustified or bad strategy. I would have done the same.
But mindlessly tunneling the first survivor you see at 5 gens is rarely a good strategy if survivors are decent and/or coordinated, and while I can definitely take it there is a population of newer players out there that will get unneled 5 matches in a row every time they log in and just quit.
And we need those new people.
There is a landslide between tunneling (or camping, slugging, whatever) because it makes sense, and tunneling to make someone's day miserable - that is something I really despise.
And yeah, cherry on top, can't even take the same energy he put into the game
5 Gens getting done in 5 minutes, most Killers doesn't have the power to apply map pression, a lot of gen defence perks has been and will be nerfed, strong Killers being nerfed, but yeah. Tunneling for a chance to Kill more than 1 survivor is Skill Issue for shure..
Another one that feels like their opinion is more important than watching the video before spitting it! Huge news, it's not :D
@@rogueroentgeni still don't think that makes his point invalid. I agree with it.
@@tfcbioshock someone could come in and comment that Freddy needs a buff and I would agree with that too, but it has nothing to do with what I talk about in this video. Really, watch/read the entire thing before commenting. It's something that will be useful to you in real life.
I think you have to take in consideration why someone tunnels. If you tunnel straight off the bat then that is a skill issue. I play killer a lot and I’m being honest with you, the majority of the matches you play you do not have to town even when there’s a toxic Swf
I haven't dealt with tunneling as much compared to when I first started. But even if it happens, the killer having tunnel vision for me only is gonna make them lose gens. The other evening I was playing with a new friend I made. She was doing gens, while I ran tiffany (chucky's gf) for 3 almost 4 gens at mother's dwelling. And despite she didn't get me on the hook once, only managed to hit me through a pallet at the start of the chase. Idek what kind of build she had until the end, no way out and noed popped up, but wasn't enough either way. Thankfully Jill had deliverance (from saving someone else earlier) and got out from basement. My team got their gate opened and left, I went for the other gate (remember me made it take longer). I took my chance to go back for the gate my team had opened, but instead found hatch nearby the 2nd gate I was trying to open. Checked the build tiffany had afterwards, and I was glad they left to avoid a surprise blood warden.
Tunneling is only a good play when it makes sense. Blindly tunneling someone because some streamer said it's a good strategy is of course gonna backfire, like in this case. Glad u juiced them!
I wish behavior would understand that nerfing gen regression perks and buffing sabotaging is just gonna encourage more tunneling. Especially killers that are just M1. It just makes the game unfun for everyone involved.
the one thing that I think is annoying about tunneling is that it kind of keeps newer players from enjoying the game so its just not really good for the growth of the game also the face camp system is completely ineffective the range is just so small it does not make a difference and the resolve fills so slowly I think the range should be increases and if the resolve meter is how u get off hook then u should get a free sprint burst rather then a little haste
Honestly up until now the only time I wasn't able to unhook myself on a camping killer was because teammates were hovering without saving, preventing me from getting it :| you do get a longer sprint burst and a longer endurance actually if it activates tho!
And I agree they should add a free anti tunnel perk, as a common one, instead of it having to be locked behind shards/real money
Now imagine you play a weak killer with no chase power like Legion or Myers (they want to nerf Legion next Patch btw) and you get a full Team with Toolboxes. Dont you have to tunnel at 5 Gens at Situations like these? I mean with how Gen Speeds are nowadays you will lose 3 Gens after first Chase regardless if it last long or not.
Playing Legion? Nah, could not be me
@@rogueroentgen :(
Nerfing legion? Why? They're not even that powerful!
@@kittymyths1208i swear bhvr hates legion
Everyone hates Legion except their Mains tbh :(
also, am I the only one who doesn't mind doing gens? I like mundane tasks in games, I think it's relaxing, but also unnerving when it's a ghostface or another stealth killer. they have never really been boring to me.
No, my swf also likes the survivor gameplay flow! I am the weirdo xD
i try to seperate cases of tunneling into two different types of tunneling, 'hard tunneling' and just 'tunneling'. tunneling is fine, while hard tunneling is the one that's actually unfun. hard tunneling would be something like tunneling at 5 gens, ignoring bodyblocks and trying your literal hardest to down that one survivor and no one else. and I would honestly say that this blight wasn't hard tunneling. yes, he did hook you twice at 5 gens, but after the 2nd unhook he could've easily went after you (i'm very convinced that he could see your scratch marks there), but he didn't and kept chasing someone else instead. in the end, everyone got out, he got his hooks, and everything ended fine. i also can't call this hard tunneling because the blight hit you while you were being healed, and not going after the injured one when survivors are healing is just a stupid thing to do.
tl;dr: tunneling is fine, hard tunneling (i.e. ignoring bodyblocks and other survivors to kill someone as early as possible) isn't fun for either side
I got hard tunneled bc I ran clown for 4 gens. I got pallet and flashlight saved before that. Bro was fuming, camping hook and throwing 3 bottles is any direction 😂 Even though I died, happy since he got mad
I think every playstyle is ok - if you are not cheating or exploiting, you can play the game however you want.
It is also true that some playstyles can be unfun for less experienced people, and why tunneling at 5 gens, even when it's actually not the most convenient options, allows people to roll a lot of survivors, making soloq frustrating or simply being new frustrating.
I am NOT opposed to tunneling at all! If I deem it the best play I do it myself, even at 5 gens - I mean, survivors would surely not slow down on gens to let you catch up, if it was their turn; this video is more about being able to handle the vibe you bring into a match.
Also, sadly scratchmarks are bugged or intentionally changed and they disappear A LOT around corners and are inconsistent. |:
Nah let´s be honest, people don´t like chases because they suck at chases everysingle person that complains in my games always last long 2 seconds maximum 3 and then DC or troll the match.
I do know quite some people that are really good at looping but wanna partecipate in the cycle of normal gameplay - and I can understand why. Even I get salty when I have a "repair 3 generators" challenge and I can't touch a single gen for multiple matches, wether I escape in the end or not. But yes, surely if everyone could loop well (not well like me, well like REALLY WELL) the game would see a lot less tunneling and a lot more deadzoning, which I would argue is way more unfun (said by someone that has made deadzoning, map pressure and outpositioning their playstyle)
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If you don’t like tunneling then maybe stop bringing crutch perks or being overly altruistic? You literally have to tunnel on high mmr all your favorite streamers have literally told you that tunneling is key if you want to go on win streaks otz literally has to ask his chat for permission to tunnel people 😂
uhmm did you... watch the video at all?
i can win games at high mmr without tunneling...tunneling is bad mkay??
@@rowdyruffmojo nobody said you can’t win games at high mmr without tunneling you can get lucky and 12 hook if the survivors are goofy and don’t do gens .. nobody in high mmr that goes on win streaks 12 hooks every game , it’s not realistic at all .. stop lying to fit your rulebook and narrative
How does your discourse of tunneling at high mmr against second chance perks for a winstreak fit within a chaos shuffle game? Just out of curiosity.
@@rogueroentgen well this doesn’t apply to chaos shuffle . That’s a temporary game mode