Why it's tough for women to work in construction, and how that can change
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2018
- Women only make up less than 10% of the national construction workforce.
Reporter Kathryn Brenzel interviewed dozens of women who work on both construction sites and as executives at some of the city’s largest construction management firms to get an idea of why the lack of diversity persists, what challenges women working in the industry endure, and how management firms can help create a more inclusive environment.
Special thanks to Kim Neuscheler at Turner Construction for the construction tour at Memorial Sloan Kettering’s David H. Koch Center for Cancer Care.
Produced by Jhila Farzaneh
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I work in construction. Every woman I know would not want to work in construction unfortunately!
is it out there I'm up fitter plumber and I fucking love it out there and I had my first construction job when I was 18 and I can carry a hundred pounds sure summer stronger and some aren't I don't think it's about equality I think we should base everyone on their Merit and get over all the bullshit...
some woman likes to work in construction can you believe it, but is a TABOO. Is very well paying job if the job pays well is prohibited for woman, for free yes women welcome!
That the woman you choosing eh, some woman are strong and like to make money and have building or carpentry skills usually this woman is the creative type, very often University educated OK
I own a construction company. Worked in Grandpas company way back in the late 70’s Practically raised in the sand pile.
@@ohwellnoel2102
Respect to you but that is the point really. Some people really think that there needs to be a push for diversity in places where it just doesn't make sense.
Like construction.
No offense, you're a strong woman but I'm just some random dude and I just worked on a construction site and did exactly that, I carried 150lbs concrete plates for hours. I'm just some random dude and I did something that would send the average woman to the ER.
The AVERAGE woman.
That doesn't mean women should be kept from working in construction. If you can handle the weight, do it 🤷🏻♂️
I think there are real problems that should be addressed, like the ever spying NSA for example and all the shit stirring that is going on right now but what do I know.
"Woman have to work twice as hard as men". Wait so women actually do more physical work and work double the hours as men? Or does she mean the women are half as strong as men so they struggle more🤔 I'm confused
Yeah don't over think it lol I could be wrong but Shes likely exaggerating what women think is important to work along side of men. Yeah but it sure does sound sound confusing!
I interpretted it as women have to work harder to make up for the lack of strength... theres a chick that works as a plasterer and she mentioned that she cant carry 2 bags at a time, so she has to carry one bag and bolt to make up for lost time.
I actually think that average woman is more diligent when it comes to physical labor and improvement of living conditions and attention to detail than the average man. Most men i know would live and sleep in a dirty hole, never clean or improve anything if it was their own free choice. Many male workers in construction industry encourage recklessness and stupidity as well as ignore mistakes and promote disregarding safety.
The fact that machines, tools, building material packaging etc. are all made one size makes the job difficult for anyone - while the concept of construction(imo) is to use and craft instruments that are appropriate for the individual to use to make buildings without physically straining themselves.
@@charlesdarwin3124 Yes indeed.
I would never compare myself with a man for simple biological advantages they have in the construction industry just like with do in other areas but I'm happy that I get the opportunity to try something I'm interested on. So yes to your comment and also yes to what she said. If she is referring to what am thinking then yes. Definetly not by half but at least in my case I have to outwork men physically and mentally so I can be approved to work in certain areas.
As a woman, I am very interested in construction work. However when I see certain comments that men make it's hard not to be discouraged. Of course I can't lift heavy because I've never been in the field but i would like to.
It's not that women don't want to work in these fields, it's that there's fear of the unknown due to all these stereotypes and cultures. And that's what they're saying needs to change. Women aren't trying to take your jobs and no one is saying we can lift more than men.
The word construction is a blanket term imo. Too many different trades. Some trades aren't suitable for even the average man, others are very technical and far less labour intensive.
Just do your homework and figure out witch trade suits YOU. I've worked with a few women in my trade that were only there because they were female to make the company look good on paper... They refused to pick up a tool and were praised (but only lasted for that one job). One was a woman who was my foreman for atleast a year, she knew her shit and wasn't afraid to get her hands dirty.
Show a thick skin, a willingness to learn, show up early and pull your weight. Man or woman, that's all it takes.
Bull. Shit.
become an electrician
If it's a matter of the heavy lifting, it's CERTAINLY possible that you can adapt to be strong enough. When I started powerlifting I went from a 90lb deadlift to 220lbs in 12 weeks. 220 lbs is WAY more than enough.
The men that go into it also have never been in the field but, adapt to the work environment and do the job, tell me why the standard should be lowered because you have never been there. If the standard is lower many buildings would be falling
Hi mam
Underground utilities and piping trade how to be qualify
Beacuse I have india qualification
Diploma in mechanical engineering
I am working in project department
Pls guide.
UMMM, i worked in construction and never had such nice equipement. And the things we sit on where just some rusty imbalanced iron, that you had to build yourself. Not to say i was barehanded with just normal clothes on me, had lots of cuts from lifting sharp heavy iron :)))
Let make our mark in construction tums up for.us women.in this.field
Omg yeah guy I know what you mean I did foundations for homes and we couldn't get one girl to come out and help us because once they went out in the field they quit 🤷♂️
@@martinaboyle267 woman wouldn't last doing the heavy work in construction
Thank you for this video. We believe that as the construction industry adapts and shifts to new technology and new methods, it will become a more welcoming profession for women and the industry will benefit from more women joining the construction world.
How exactly will on average far interior physically females going to be beneficial to a field that depends on your physical prowess?
@@Lutestick Advanced Technology...
@@debayanpal3181 ok once we get to that point where manual labor isn't so critical then yes it won't make a difference. Until then we live in reality
We men have outsourced our need to machines. When the women and jobs gone don’t be surprised
Still they can't lift a hammer
Is there any women who actually do physical labor? Or do these feminist just want to be in control and not do any actual work? Trick question.
Yes woman do physical labour and many jobs require it varying degrees not all woman work in an office, woman of Couse cant do the most strength related intensive jobs out there or not as well as men but they certainly do labour and work, its a not a trick question just a dumb one
@@informationyes the fact that you even had to say that women can't do the most strength related intensive jobs as men just proves my point 😂 when I say physical labor I mean things that are actually difficult. And it's not a dumb question you're just to dumb to understand it. I literally just looked up videos of women doing physical labor and it's obvious that there all staged and they don't do it from 9 to 5 consistently, Otherwise they'd be built like a tank.
@@abstractcreation122 Jobs are difficult! listing a very heavy objects isn't the only hard thing to do in a job and you said labour which is any physical work, you can look up statistics of woman that work in different industry's also your not gonna be built like tank if your only lifting general weight objects, if a woman working in a machinery on an industrial sowing machine she's doing hard and intensive work but its not heavy lifting
@@informationyes Homie said sowing machine I'm dead😂😂
@@abstractcreation122 My bad spelling aside lol its is a job that requires labour but just not as physically intensive as say lifting bricks all day any way here's a chart on who does what jobs and by what percentage careersmart.org.uk/occupations/equality/which-jobs-do-men-and-women-do-occupational-breakdown-gender
1:00 - we men, sexually harass each other each day. I can't go one day without there being a gay joke.
Lmaoo bruh I study in marketing and work in a garage like one day per week, everyone shove ratchets in other's dudes ass for no reason and no one go back home crying
😂😂😂😂 I wanna work in construction but if they did that I would just kick they're ass. 😂😂😂 I'm glad to hear some of y'all are gay haha 😂 this comment made me feel a little better.
@@happyface4711 no you wouldnt "kick their ass"
@@m1stern00by I would try lol 😂😂
@@happyface4711 well in construction you have some nice tools like a wrench that could help
I mean construction is just one of those industries most women do not want to get into, the opportunities especially in North America are there for them. Much like in healthcare, it’s really a female dominated work environment, but men are still capable health care workers and have opportunities. Elder homes are significantly female dominated work environments
I am a woman construction engineer, and I am so proud that I made it!! We can do it ladies!!
Most of the people against women in the comments can barely string a coherent sentence together. 😂😂😂
Aren't you supposed to be done with your 40 minute break by now?
The fact this channel can't take constructive criticism tells me everything about there woke brigade.
What a joke.
Many women in the construction think these days not fizicall work so make up can hold up until the end of the day which is really important I think how you look sexy and cool
You having the degree does not qualify you but, the question is can you do the practical work lifting, that need your physical strength and how long can you last at the job.
Well, when I need to fix the house. Where are the feminist?
Well, I'm a feminist and a carpenter but I think I'll pass on fixing your house, plenty of good clients out there. No need to do jobs for assholes like you
@Vinay Dhiwar I have made dozens of houses and a hospital.
@Vinay Dhiwar what about bricks? Your English is horrible. I'm not sure what your question is but no-one uses bricks where I'm from, just concrete and false stone veneers
@Vinay Dhiwar it sounds like you don't know what houses are made of. Houses ARE made of wood, and when I was at work on Friday the 3 story house I'm building seemed very real indeed.
@Vinay Dhiwar inventions by women: rocket fuel, hot water heaters, nylon, laser, chemotherapy, circular saws, glasses, windshield wipers, globes, life rafts, medical syringes, the game monopoly, electric refrigerators, central heating, foot pedal trash cans, low reflection glass( necessary in cameras), wireless transmission technology, bullet proof fibre, caller ID, RADIATION, NUCLEAR FISSION (as in the nuclear fission used in power plants)
About the pay gap. Tell me about the type of job and wage. Example a cashier woman vs cashier man in same store what's their hourly rate.
Wait you believe that the pay gap still exist or?
No wage gap if you try to make fair comparisons you conservative nazi! (/Sarcasm)
In the usa men and women are paid the same wages for the same work. They get more pay for the quality too
If there was a wage gap we would see examples of it in the news and in womens magazines. The media loves to crap on men at every chance they get.
Same gender imbalance can be said for nursing, now where is that video about what can be done to address the Gender imbalance in nursing to help more men become nurses?
Fiminisim brainwashing
I would love to hire women to build my house, but I can't find them. I post adds on BBB, HomeAdvisor, and all other sites that arrange for contractors. WHERE DO I FIND WOMEN CONTRACTORS? PLEASE CONTACT ME. I GOT WORK FOR YOU.
You need to get a woman only site no man a low not even to poor the concrete.
Damn this guy sounds like a creep
Not in my current workplace but in previous places of work I’ve been sexually harassed (retail). It I get sexually harassed buying groceries or pumping gas sometimes so the potential for construction site ball busting would be no different.
Actually no because your making an assumption of something you have no experience doing. Just because you get "bullied at retail" doesn't mean a construction site is the same.
Oh wait 5 years, after you hit the wall, nobody will harass you princess, or pay you any attention at all
Calv Candie it’s only harassment if the guy is ugly
@@michael-jj1hc well as longs as male keep they're hands to them self's then they won't get they're ass kick. 😂😂😂😂😂 Simply isn't it? No hate against guys of course not all of them are like that.
Hi dear it nice to meet you
Women comprise of 50% of the population, yet only 2-15% of workers in construction. I’m so glad my company Soulful Design and Builds is changing that by being the only, largest all-minority women construction company in all of the US and probably the world.
Women working in construction probably the same as warehouses where there will be 2 females for every 30 guys. One female will be in the office entering the freight information and if your lucky one female will pick and pack. Never seen any campaign to get more women in warehousing.
It's called affirmative action
Yeah you see women driving the air conditioning trucks and running the air conditioning backhoes but you never see them digging with a shovel or doing the outside work they're always doing the easy work like clean up or picking up tools. For every six women you have on a construction site only one can really do the same work as a man and I'm talking being able to carry block and brick at the same rate.
The age of women privilege on construction sites is coming to an end...?
Woman and their treachery with feminism feeding Marxism critical theory has seen oh precious woman being replaced with the 'gender neutral' bathrooms. I sh1t you not ladies 😅
I am one of the small percentage of women in construction. The author of the book #ConstructionTales and the host of the new #VerballyDisastrous podcast. I am sure I will have plenty of fellow trade sistas on to discuss many topics.
My whole life I’ve literally only seen 1 women construction worker n she was not even doing the work
Been working 27 years.
@@Texas_Bricklady Oh look, a fucking unicorn. Must be the rule and not the exception, right? At least that's the logic women use 🤣
@Justin Y. When did you stop beating your wife?
@Justin Y. When did you stop beating your wife?
@@BlGGESTBROTHER yo my guy you so right she's probably the one drawing the plans and standing around with the supervisors. Would love to see her actually do physical work like carrying 2x16 on her shoulder and setting up a house for the foundation.
This large project my cat is on... there are more than 1 new recruit females totally green that are just standing there all day... doing nothing. It blows my mind as I wonder ... is it only myself seeing this?
On another note my co worker friend is asking are all tge rest of the people there NPCs? (Non fully human/taken over by A.I. to become hybrids)
This person clearly hasn't spent a lot of time on a construction site. Every industry has it's bad apples but I believe our industry is very open and respective toward female workers. Women have their place in the industry, we don't see female concrete workers, simply because most aren't physically able to do the work, just like we don't see most 50 year olds doing concrete work. However the more finesse trades, drywall finishers, painters, electricians, finish carpenters women do quite well. The biggest reason we don't have more women in the trades is simply most women aren't interested in do it. Just like the majority of men don't want to be a florist, nurse, hair stylist. People like the women in this video will be much happier when they realize men and women are different creatures.
Chris Anthony I think construction is a great place to be for women. I think more women should just get in there and try it. Dedicate a year to it. I am a construction worker and I am treated like every other person on site.
@@krystinehamre7851 yeah but the reality is most women aren't like you my guy. Trust me we even had lesbians coming to our work and they couldn't even lift half of the stuff we could and they were smoking meth. The reality of it is women are interested in people and men are interested in things. It's like complaining that there's too many teachers and nurses that are women and we need more men in those jobs?
My mum and grandmother were Florist, the only male florist that I came accross was a gay florist. I also worked at a hospital in the supply department for over 8 years I only came accross 1 male straight nurse who worked in theatres, he was at that time studying to become a doctor. Prior to being a nurse he was an Air conditioner installer.
This is what Jordan Peterson tries to preach yet he’s called a anti-feminist or a nazi or whatever for it, I don’t understand what is so wrong with acknowledging biological differences
You are wrong.
Its not that women "aren't interested" its litterallly because they are programmed from birth to see it as a "man's job"
Is it tough or is that in general women don’t want to do hard manual labor? As a woman in 2023, it’s almost guaranteed that we’ll get a job over a man in any of these fields. Most of these companies are opening their doors to women and minorities. It’s just that most women are not interested in this kind of labor. Personally I am going into the field, but I’m a girly girl and never ever thought I would. And I’m still weary about it 😅 I just think we need to stop perpetuating this false point of view that women are not the majority in hard labor jobs because “sexism”. Women are not paid less than men because “sexism”. Women are usually paid less because of hours worked, maternity leave, wanting to be with her children more, not wanting to work crazy hours. While men work the most and the hardest, especially when they have kids they want to provide so much more. *But also women these days are starting to make way more money than men. And women are not getting married and are not keeping their children. So hours worked will be probably more and I can totally see the “wage gap” evening out as more women have to work and decide to not have a family.* We as women can’t keep bringing up these arguments while simultaneously having boatloads of opportunities that we really just don’t want. Ask yourself. Do you and most of the women you know really want to be hanging from telephone poles, building bridges, doing whatever in sewers, out in the middle of the ocean on an oil rig? I bet 80% of you just said no. If we’re all adults, we should understand how the real world works
I do agree in some of the points youve made but the issues here isnt that we need to bring more women into the force labor, its the fact that those women in the force labor already get discriminated against for beign a minority, and while it is easy to join other fields, there are women who want to do this sort of thing or are interested in it, but because of the huge bias that it leads to working here then it tends to be a lor more steriotipical than in most other works. I wont argue anything about the wage gap bc its not really a field of expertise here tho, however i am inclined to lean on what their saying because the women in the video are the ones I know share the expirience to some extent.
See, I might agree with, but sexism still exists. Those ideas that keep women down in their place as 'weak care taker' didn't disappear when equal rights was passed and women were enabled to work in the American unions in the 1970s. That wasn't that long ago. How long do you suspect such a staple in human society will take to undo? Afterall some countries still bar women that right at all.
The reason women don't take those jobs is because the moment we are born, girls are lucky(at least in my country) to get an education and not be married off to the highest bidder. We are taught to be weaker. To never lift the heavy things, to never get dirty, to never explore, to never think. So we're immediately disadvantaged and it carries us everywhere we go.
Even other women try to pretend that sexism is over and nothing is bad in the world like that anymore. But even though I worked for six years as foreman of my shop(masonry) I constantly had people try to 'help' me carry a bucket(about 40kg) and completely interrupt what I was doing, then they get all offended when I tell them "If I need help, I'll ask you. If I don't ask you, I don't need it." "Just trying to help" Isn't helping. It's reaffirming this idea that girls are weak, useless creatures that exist only to create baby and be pretty doll for man to play with. At least in my culture that's what we're taught. I live in America now, but the mind is still the same here. It didn't change and it won't change while people try to pretend it doesn't. It's like keeping a room dark so you can't see an cockroach. They're still there even if you don't see them. You have to turn on the light to scurry them away, and it start by acknowledging your own bias. Thank you and I do wish you much success in your career.
In my experience working on new builds the women who aren't deterred from the industry by sexism seem to overall be more qualified for their positions, more careful and to have more pride in their work than the men. Obviously we're still deprived of many more competent builders due to sexism though.
Nice..
I saw my first woman on a site today and she was literally holding an umbrella while “working”
Christ dude
What was she "working" on?
I did that when my job was to sit outside the shitters and make sure no one graffitis them 😅 sunburn is a safety hazard yo
Every time I pass a construction zone the token woman is twirling the "slow/stop" sign while the guy is operating the 150 dB jackhammer and shaking like an epileptic. "Equal pay for equal work."
Don't worry, the dudes getting repetitive strain injuries
I say they switch jobs, I could do with a good laugh.
@@delonthomas48 Yeah I've seen some men twirl the sign too, when there aren't any women around. But of the construction zones where there's one token woman on site, she is always holding the sign. Have you ever in your life seen a woman operating a pneumatic jackhammer? Ive driven about 120k miles in my life and not once have I seen this. "Equal pay for equal work" forgot about the equal work part. How about underwater welding? Linemen? Fishermen? Oil rigs? Men do all the dangerous jobs while woke/obese women with a humanities, liberal arts or social sciences degree complain about how there aren't enough women in jobs where humanities, social sciences and liberal arts degrees are completely useless. Men are more physically capable and willing to do dangerous jobs. There's a pay gap for a reason. In fact, there should be more of a pay gap but that's a different story.
@@delonthomas48 None of your comment addressed anything I said, it was more of a rambling than a coherent statement. I never said women in construction were obese. I said women with useless degrees that are obese complain about how there aren't enough women in these jobs. I also said that "equal pay for equal work" is a lie. The work is not equal. A woman twirling a 'slow/stop' sign at a construction zone is not doing the same work as the man on the pneumatic jackhammer getting nerve damage and hearing loss and working an extremely physically demanding piece of equipment. I stand by that. It would be better to call it 'equal pay for unequal work'.
We are starting early here ruclips.net/video/1-vHbjqGqoU/видео.html
if you're a woman why would you want to do a hard labour job, when you can just find a guy to provide for you for free?
also what about garbage collection? there arent many women in that either. is it because of sexism against women? lol
I would rather work than have rat babies and marry a sexist man
Honestly I would rather kill myself than be a housewife
I'm 18 but i work on construction for more than 2 yrs.. I am a bit experince in construction... So i can say that there a some women that can really work in construction.... But that doesn't mean that those women a feminist they are working for a livelihood... We all are struggling for our livelihood.. But men n women are struggling no one have a easy life...
How can you say, have you seen them hanging in tall buildings and connecting all the rods and boulders of metals? Have you seen them on heavy equipment.
*dry heaves at the comment section*
to all of you men calling on all of your most deeply rooted cognitive biases to dismiss the real world experiences of women in construction (I am a carpenter myself):
Close your mouth. Stop typing. Just listen. Drop your hate-filled rhetoric and try to feel and empathize. This video couldn't be more accurate, and whatever anger or discomfort you feel is coming from WITHIN YOU. Your rage is the thing that needs to change.
Men are just sick of hearing the whining and the bending over backwards of big companies for women while we're busting our asses everyday. You're not really wrong on your point though. But they have to make videos like these because most women couldn't give a fuck less about construction. Most men who work construction would much rather do something else. Women being the majority of nurses and men construction workers didn't just happen that way, theirs a perfect and easily explainable reason for it. Its nature... 99% of the women I've seen on jobs sites aren't actually doing any construction, usually have a clipboard. And most nurses I've seen are busting ass while the male doctor is in and out. So let's stop all the artificial wants and need for women in construction or stem or whatever. If they can't hack it, tough shit. The field is far to dangerous to be wasting time on whos feeling are hurt.
@@michaelsmith-lf6mm no dude, where you need to expand your thinking is that these needs are "artificial". This type of video exist not because women couldn't give less fucks about construction. It's because people like you are unaware of the shit women face in the workplace, far beyond what men have to deal with. Add having a dangerous job on top of all that mysogist bullshit and you have the reason why women don't want to be in construction. Simple isn't it
@@michaelsmith-lf6mmsounds like you're the one whining anyway 🤷🏻♀️ you don't want to have to be a nice little boy? So sad
@@michaelsmith-lf6mm 'feelings are hurt'. You can't expect us to get harrassed and keep quiet
@@thawillyfish let me ask you a question then, in my 15 years of working in residential construction, I have only ever seen one female framing crew, and it was led by a man, I have only ever seen two female drywaller‘s, I have only seen one female Electrician, I’ve never met a female roofer, I have never met a female Stair Installer, I’ve never met a female bricklayer, I’ve never met a female insulator, so my question is do you think this is all simply because of sexism? Do you think men are just preventing these women from doing these gruelling physical jobs? Now on the flipside I have never met a man who does female lashes, the vast majority of nurses I’ve met in the hospitals or women, the vast majority of florists are women, The vast majority of daycare workers that I’ve met are women, do you think it’s sexism against men that they don’t take these jobs?
The funniest part is that they would ask the women that what is the reason for the pay gap they will start say sexual harassment, they want to lead but don't want to get there hands dirty on the field by lifting heavy equipment and others to they want to just sit in the office and work around as inspector with any experience first hand at the job except der degrees
let's be honest the truth is women don't want to do it. They grew up asking thier brother or boyfriend or dad to do the heavy lifting, keeping a 'im all talk no action' outlook. I mean even in this video that woman just seems to be giving orders. they seem to prefer managerial positions. Construction men are generally good people, they are rather supportive. Look at a country like india in the rural areas where u find 50 year old women lifting weights just like men, maybe not 50 bricks at a time but atleast 5 bricks at a time. Here's a scene from a movie, where u find women just working without stereotypes. ruclips.net/video/ZES7z4M-0uU/видео.html (nobody actually record videos in real life in rural areas hence a movie scene).
The majority of these comments are misogynistic, literally bullying, ignoring the premise of the video. The commenters are a perfect reflection of the attitudes a woman in construction would face in real life.
This is like blaming a kid being bullied in school for going to a school with bullies. The comments section of this video literally answers the first half of the title. Unbelievable.
What's misogynistic? Please be clear because saying women are far interior to men physically is not misogynistic. Saying women who do go into construction and put their body under strain is not good for health (it's not good for either but alot more so for women) and can cause issues in conceiving etc is not misogynistic. It is facts and I will not be part of a system that gives false ideals to women and at the same time devalue the superiority of men in this field. Such as I would not allow the same thing when women are by default superior to men in another field. None of this is misogynistic and if you think it is then you have a problem with reality.
@@Lutestick I work in construction myself. I am in FAR better condition physically than the men I work with because I take care of my body by stretching, doing yoga and generally maintaining my fitness by making sure I address muscle imbalances from repetitive stress.
The guys I work with do none of those things and allow themselves to degenerate physically.
I take less time off than they do for injuries, I don't waste people's energy complaining about my aches and pains (because I have none). I don't cost my employers money in workers compensation claims.
I also do the exact same work as they do with no extra help, as it's very likely you'll say that next. That's usually the line to follow.
I am the average female construction worker.
I've had no problem conceiving. That is an insidious yet silly myth that seems to plague women and really speaks to m en's general lack of knowledge around female anatomy.
So in light of all that, if your comments still don't smack of misogyny to you then you need to get your eyeballs over to a dictionary and read the definition of misogyny. That's a good place for you to start.
@@Lutestick Also I have to point out that your statement about "strain" being bad for the body is rather ham-handed. "Strain" implies that your musculoskeletal system is not ready to handle the load you're putting it under, whether that means you're putting it under too much stress for too much TIME, or just too much weight for a short amount of time, or any combination of the two.
The main thing to consider here is that all bodies adapt to stress, but the limiting factors for both men and women is recovery. Under that umbrella is rest, abundant sleep, adequate macronutrient intake but especially protein, and active recovery like stretching, light exercise like walking or restorative yoga. Yes, strain *can* be bad for bodies, but a more representative way to look at that is: putting a body under a load it's not prepared for, or able to *recover* sufficiently from is 100% bad for it. This is basic sport science that applies to both men and women the same way.
Now for the sex differences, stay with me until the end where I will tie this all together. The main physiological difference between men and women is that in the two weeks before a woman sheds her uterine lining there is what's called the high hormone phase. The catabolic hormone progesterone increases in preparation to break down said uterine lining. This catabolism is unfortunately not confined to the uterus, it does lead to some muscle breakdown. This part of the reason women have less muscle mass- the anabolic (muscle gaining) part of our physiology is suppressed for roughly half of the cycle. Not only that, but in the last week of the cycle blood plasma goes down 8% as a result of redirection and loss of fluids , leading to decreased recovery and capacity for output. Fortunately, the solutions to these problems are really pretty easy.
For the muscle breakdown: increased protein intake above the men's recommendations, and timeing. Msg me if someone wants specific macros. Timing for women after exercise is 30 minutes to get a large dose of protein, and 1 - 1.5 hour for a full meal and hydration. Men have 1 hour. Snacking works well in industrial settings.
For the decreased blood plasma: increase salt intake AND fluid intake. The key here is that you actually WANT to retain fluids!
Back to things that apply to both men and women with no amendments. Three other things that are important to consider when thinking about whether or not someone who is generally healthy is physically able to do a task.
1)Connective tissue takes roughly 3 months to adapt to stress under adequate recovery circumstances.
2) The difference between a short period of stress (a single workout) and a long period of stress (a day of work with minimal breaks, a triathlon, ironman race)
3) Muscle takes a few days to a week to adapt to a single stress event ( as opposed to repeated, daily stress)
A quick and dirty illustration: a person working in an office for 10 years gets very sick of working in an office. They decide to start in construction as a labourer (where most people have to start). They did no training outside of work to prepare themselves, their muscles and connective tissue (musculoskeletal system) are without a doubt not adapted to the stresses of repeatedly shovelling, lifting, sweeping, bending, reaching etc. for 8-10 hours per day and only having a maximum of 2 days on the weekend to recover, when they should ideally have 3-4 days interspersed throughout the week as a beginner. This person is at a high risk for injury.
To avoid this scenario the office jockey should have started slow with some kind of mix of weightlifting and plyometric exercise, and ramping it up until the workload in their workouts is equivalent to a full day of labouring (doesn't have to be 8 hours of workout, a higher intensity than the job for a shorter time will do it too).
BUT!!! Here's the darndest thing!!! If these ideal conditions aren't met, still the human body is remarkably resilient and it will eventually adapt, male or female! It might be very painful, (yes, you guessed it, male or female) but it will do it because the body doesn't know it's just a job.
The body doesn't differentiate between stresses. Running from a predator, hunting for its meal, farming, construction stresses are all the same to our bodies. The body will do whatever it takes to overcome and adapt to stay alive. The cost to not prepare for any of these stresses is paid for by your long term health and longevity.
The only thing if a woman- if we looked at a woman in this scenario- would have to do differently than a man to make absolutely sure she didn't "strain" herself (meaning no cost to her long term health and longevity) is to make sure she fuels herself with more protein and electrolytic fluids during her luteal phase- the two weeks before her period starts. That's it. Provided she's otherwise healthy she is up to the job, though for either sex it always takes time to build up your musculoskeletal system.
Reiteration at the risk of redundancy, she still can adapt to the stress of a physical job even if she doesn't prepare beforehand and adjust her nutrition to her menstrual cycle, but it might hurt. This really doesn't change much from men to women. Being physically untrained for a job increases your risk for injury, full stop. You may say next: Women have more strength to gain before they are ready to perform such jobs. The average sheet of drywall is 57 lbs. The max lift for most union construction jobs is 50-80lbs. A sack of dry concret is 50lbs. I can carry two, by the way. I didn't have to train for that haha. Wet concrete is 150lbs per cubic foot. Not huge weights to either men or women. My point here is that it doesn't matter that men have double the upper body strength because as long as you can lift 100lbs (again, children can deadlift that weight) you can carry 50lbs repeatedly without much risk for injury.
Please refer to Dr. Stacy Sim's research on sex differences in sport for more.
And finally, to be absolutely, perfectly crystal clear about "What is misogynistic", since you asked so nicely:
- Your commitment to ignorance of female physiology AND basic anatomy is misogynistic.
- Your unwillingness to concede to any of the points made in this video is misogynistic.
- Your commitment to stating something as "facts" when there is no basis for it, particularly when it pertains to whether or not women should be accepted in an industry is misogynistic.
@@thawillyfish wow comment was deleted already huh? Too much evidence to handle for this channel?
Ok, I am in construction, worked for women and worked around women in the trade. I will never work with or for a woman directly ever again. My female foreman could not make decisions, then I got blamed for their decisions, it was just a mess. Then I got blamed for being racist, got blamed for all sorts of things that never happened. I will never want that egg shell walking feeling again!
@ The Real Deal, please address these comments
Hi it nice to meet you dear
All the women I've seen and worked with pretty much got their asses kissed by everybody. They could get away with twice what the men could.
Im also a bit tired of women complaining that nobody takes them seriously when they start working somewhere, because they don't have the perspective to realize that the reason they don't get taken seriously is just because they are new. Not because they are women. I don't care how much prior experience you have, you will not get taken seriously until you earn the respect of the people you work with. But a lot of women are still stuck in this mindset that nobody should ever have to work for anything, it should just be given to them. I have no sympathy for women in construction, most did do a great job, but a lot of these complaints are bullshit and I wonder if they even come from actual female construction workers and not the precious little sjws who just assume it's like this.
Men too get bullied we never complain hahahaha women complain harrasing that's why we are different roles and different charcacther.. There is no equal get in your hand
Why should the workforce change for women? Perhaps the women should change to fit in on construction sites. Men do that.
Exactly
Why is it so hard for women to work in construction? I think you better ask why do women not want to work in construction lol
she might not necessarily understand how to solve the problem or what the problem is I might not necessarily agree with what she saying I don't care if people put penis is all over the wall just let me work.. and don't create animosity this is a mess what a mess peace!!!.. but there was some pretty ignorant comments so I had to say something peace out.
W... What?!
Did you have a stroke while you were typing this?
@@pangometersen8834 just poor texting skills. Grammar. Lol. Ha. Ha..wanna come play with me...ha
become an electrician, you wont have to lift very heavy stuff
That may be the route I go
@@rebel8440 do it. im quite happy with my choice, the pay is well, and enjoy what i do. i have sciatica and i still can work. 90% of the time you work inside, you wont have heating most of the time, but way better then being outside. And once you learn how to work well then you can change to something even easier like CCTVs, fire alarms, smart houses, smart lighting etc. A lot of diversity in this job. Don't listen to ppl that say you cant do it cause your a woman cause you cant lift heavy stuff. I don't wanna lift heavy stuff, i wanna stay and work in a cozy place, thats why i chose to be an electrician.
@@robv8044 thank you so much!
Yeah I see a lot of women electricians on the jobsite more then anything else
Why do men always have to move over as soon as women arrive? Why not live and let live?
Cry about it
@@nathalies.3941 ur such a baby lol
Our ladies sit in the home respectfully because we have for work if ladies should job like teacher doctor document controller construction is very bed line for women
The real problem here is delusions, of corse normal woman can’t lift the heavy things that a weak man could do but it doesn’t matter because if a woman wants to try her best maybe she can do the average jobs that consist of heavy lifting.
Tristan Jacobson lemme guess, you a man? How the hell do you know what a woman could do if you ain’t one dafuk
I’m pretty strong but I’m not going to delude myself that I can solo lift the same as an average man. I outlift or lift equally with below average strength men. It’s biology-An average man that doesn’t train will be stronger than an average female who also doesn’t train.
@@almighty_salt9648
Are you saying there is no sexual dimorphism?
😏 Say it. Say it.
Pango Metersen I didn’t say there wasn’t, you obviously can’t deny biology. but if a woman can dedicate herself to becoming strong enough to be able to do a job, then why shouldn’t she be allowed to do it? I’ve seen weak men that shouldn’t do jobs like infantry, and I’ve seen extremely strong women who might as well put her strength to do use.
@@almighty_salt9648
Yeah but nobody said that.
The initial comment basically just said that the average woman is - on average - physically weaker than the average man.
You countered that with:
"lemme guess, you a man?
How the hell do you know what a woman could do if you ain't one dafuk"
I answered with:
"Are you saying there is no sexual dimorphism?"
You then agreed with me, the initial comment and one other commenter, that there is such a thing called sexual dimorphism and that exceptions make the rule.
So my question is:
What the hell?!
How do you fail to notice that you actually agree with a statement, then have it explained to you but still continue to argue, this time against a point that wasn't made 😐 I mean what the...
This is absolute nonsense, I work within the construction industry and the last three sites I was on were managed by women and the architects and engineers were women. You absolutely can NOT make any comment about sex or even look at them funny without being sacked on the spot which I have witnessed. I have seen young female apprentice in every trade and they all get paid more than the men or the same.
Cool place to work. No tolerance for sexual harrassment.
@@adwaitab.3622 yes true, but the women are sometimes much harsher than the men, one of the female bosses was repeatedly making racist comments to one of the lads to the point were it was just cringe, and the lad just left in the end. You could easily see it was just an ego thing, trying to show off.
@@theguitarist7911 Men do not make racist comments?
@@adwaitab.3622 not the point hypocrite
If the roles were reversed you would complain and play the victim
Lol its insane u cant even fuck around with em like u would with a guy cuz they act like there in a womens right movie
Lol women's bathrooms on Jobsites are so much nicer than men's, I remember being on Turner site, you could literally lock eyes with people while you shit, lol. The walls were so low on the bathroom.
And most of the time when women want to get into construction, they aim for administrative, or project management, don't see a whole lot of women clamoring for Mason work, she says in the video "More management roles for women."
If you want to work in construction work in construction. She's acting like she used to work in construction and she got abused
I bet she never had a single callus on those dainty little hands of hers.
@Robert Simple. They don't want those jobs and those jobs don't want them.
Wow you're a genius. She's a journalist, Einstein
@@BlGGESTBROTHER 90% "those jobs don't want them". You know what that is? That's misogyny (dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women)
@@thawillyfish No, it's called men make better laborers because of a little thing called TESTOSTERONE. You can live in denial of basic biology and act like men and women are physiologically equal: It will never be true.
It's not "misogyny" holding women back. If they could perform labor intensive tasks as well as men then they would be hired. That's simple economics. Why would a company hurt themselves by not hiring a good worker? The truth is that women don't pull their own weight in labor intensive fields; and so it doesn't make sense for a company to hire them when they can hire a man for the same price and get more productivity out of them.
Sorry, not sorry.
MGTOW FOR LIFE
Hahahahaha good luck with that
This is also dumb. Stop whining and find a solution
Incel
As women nowadays care about that...
It's tough because they're not as strong.
i know how that can change,they have to change into a man.
You cry "sexual harassment" - but that's not everywhere, and where it exists you have a legal recourse. However, instead of complaining. Build it, create it, from scratch. From the ground up. Build, build, build. Take the injuries, embrace the tools, invent new machines. Build, create. Stop asking for others to invite you in, and make the world you desire through dedication. Put in the hours, choose vocation above all other things, including so called "work-life" balance.. forget that. Do not ask for State handouts, in fact campaign for deregulation.
Feel sad for the lost lives, and hardships, and then battle on.
Do what men have done. Earn it. And only if other men try and prevent you from achieving your dreams, clobber them with lawsuits.
In the end, it is possible. However, I think you'll find that less women will personally choose a life in construction. Perhaps those of you that earn it, will shape the industry to be more appealing. But that's up to you. It's not the proper role of government.
Put it this way, outside of construction there are inventors. Look at the history of men that dedicate to trying to solve problems others didn't even know existed. No one can have a monopoly on a market that doesn't exist. So where are the waves of women inventors? There are a few that have stood above the rest, whose names you may not have even taken the time to get to know. And they achieved in much harder times than you know today.
So if you want it, invent, create, build, and give your life for these goals. Men have done this and most of them have failed, but they keep on in their multitudes. And other men build on their accomplishments, and so it goes on.
One last point. I hear a tone of victimhood in your voice. That's failure before one starts. Think and know what you want. Ignore what others say and act on your own mind. But most of all, do it because you want it more than anything else you'll ever want. That it's your highest value. It will only take a handful of you to achieve that and make a difference to the rest. But for a handful to emerge, statistically there ought to be multitudes trying and most will fail.
That _is_ the price men have paid. Often with their lives. Competing against other men that wanted it more, and that were more able.
Tough picture ain't it?
Well said mate! Women never stop complaining or patting themselves on the back. Standards & requirements have been lowered in many industries for women to enter them. I agree when you say about starting from scratch do the work & earn you position. They complain constantly about most things men do but never start something from scratch they just want men to make the changes so they can enjoy the fruit they never worked for.
Women in sport is a perfect example, instead of just playing sport and earning your profile & making your sport sustainable they pull out the victim card & want the same money that men make but don't generate the same as men? Ladies if so much is wrong with men and what we do go build you own city & live happily ever after without toxic men!
I am a female carpenter and I agree with a lot of your points here. I think women should just fucking get in there work hard and show what they’re capeable of. Allow men to be their mentors and learn from them because they did build our cities and houses. One day when I’m the one in charge nobody will question it, and if they do then I’ll just dust it off.
Men give each other shit all the time. I’m sensitive and that’s part of being loaded with estrogen instead of testosterone... but I don’t let it dictate my day to day.
I obviously don’t stand for sexual harassment but I give it right back! Nobody disrespects me twice on a job site cause I stand up for myself and make them feel like losers... there’s always going to be banter, and there’s no reason for me to put up with anyone’s shit and vice versa!!
I’m all about equity, and equal opportunity. But we have to work for it.
Equal opportunity doesn’t mean equal outcome. “The best man wins “ and that’s not only directed towards people with a dick and balls. It’s whoever has the balls to get to the top!
Generalizing women for all this shit drives me insane. They ruin if for the rest of us who just want to work.
Ask any man how they’re first year of construction was.... like it isn’t easy mentally for them either.
I got $3000 for completely my level on carpentry... like wooho thanks gov but like is that fair ?? HELL NO ITS NOT FAIR.
Put aside your emotions about having to adapt to a new workforce and consider that your rant about hard work sails right over the main point here. Doesn't even touch it. I'm a carpenter as well and I work my ASS off every day, I make it known I want opportunities. But do you think I get the same opportunities as men with an equal or lesser skill level? No! I've watched with a sickening sense of disappointment add absolute dunces got pay raises, the good jobs, more work, more connections than me. The only explanation is misogyny.
@@drdubberruckie2346 I wanna go into construction but if a man harrass me I will just kick is ass 😂😂 I mean if your working in construction your not a little flower 😂😂 we really don't need any help.
@@krystinehamre7851 good job! More woman should be like you. Work hard for what they want and don't expect hand outs. I wanna go into construction but I am worry about sexual harassment but I think I will be able to kick they're ass if they mess with me. 😂😂 You seem like a very strong women with huge determination.
Why do women think they belong on construction sites?
Shits more expensive these days, they probably need the cash to keep up with the bills
Either that or like what I've seen, it's a trade passed down from generation to generation
Is discrimination against women in construction industry women I'm not a lot to work in construction don't talk stupid stuff. Well paid job is usually Kept For Men this is the reality. I graduated George Brown College Toronto Ontario Canada 2009 to 2013 talk to the qualified to work carpentry construction everything and nobody will not hire me I've been on 300 interviews. I'm totally qualified to work with all of the Power Tools nothing wrong to be with power tools. Europe women working in construction only Canada maybe United States give discrimination against women to work in construction!
Okay well maybe you should have gone to school to work on your English? I’m not trying to be rude, but it was very dumb of you to go to college to learn carpentry. You could go to college for years and it will not prepare you for the kind of work you do on an actual job site. I’ve had a couple guys come to work for me as a residential frame carpenter claiming to have gone to school for carpentry, and frankly couldn’t even use a tape measure correctly. If you want a job doing carpentry so bad I suggest you go to a housing development near you and look for a frame carpentry site. You don’t need an education, don’t need to fill out an application, they will pay you in cash, and will most likely hire you on the spot. My advice to you is try not to speak unless spoken to, and don’t expect anybody to treat you nice. That is not because you are a women, that’s just how it is. Good luck
@@i8dapuszy Why you speaking about my English. How many languages do you learn in your live ? I learn 3 languages plus my mothers tonge. Do you learn Carpentry? Do you know what you tolking about? I know a lot of American are agains educaion because do not want to spend time and money for education, but believe me. Education is important. I learn a lot and using my skills in the houses i am baying and my EDUCATION HELPS ME A LOT. Also it is a FACT WOMAN ARE NOT EXEPTED IN CARPENTRY only because of Jender discrimination in Canada and USA! Look on the street will see no woman working as a builder OK????? IT IS A FACT OK? In EUrope is much different. My step mother start her life working as a construction worker OK is ot exeption. Do not tell me about my ENGLISH skills when I am speaking about Gender Discrimination in Norht America it is a fact! Also is a SHAME!
Bronose.. I'd like to connect with you I'm doing research on the subject I'm a fifth-year 100 lb female fitter with experience in can't get people to call me and it's just it's a really horrible thing and only a few experienced can't you understand other ways other people judge you I'm interested if you see this somehow ..let's connect..
@@ohwellnoel2102 OK was a member of Woman in Construction in Canada group as well. Ok let connect how is your name I do not undestand what reserch you doing and which level is your resarch? Thank you for understanding.
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In general men are more interested in things and women are more interested in people, this is why more men want to be in construction and more women want to be nurses etc.
If hispanic women got paid that much less for the same quality of work and the same amount of hours then any company who just employed hispanic women would have a 28.3% advantage on labour cost than a company that just employed white men, that is almost the entire profit margin for most companies.
On average men have about 13% more upper body muscle mass than women of the same weight and about 10% more lower body muscle mass. This puts women at a major disadvantage when it comes to hard labour jobs where lifting heavy things is a big part of the job.
People are not chess pieces you can just move around, in the economics of any industry there is no such thing as a solution, only trade offs. By forcing one narrative you will create another problem often bigger than the one solved.
I don't know about that. I'm a woman, and my greater interests are in things. Not people. People give me nothing but a hard time and piss me off which is why I stay the heck away and don't deal with anyone. My boyfriend and family members are the only exception. Things such as my motorcycle, my case 210 garden tractor and my truck don't give me any hard times at all.
@@SteelCowGirl4Ever
I wouldn’t say your an average woman 👍
@@unstupidingmyself4216 Amen dude. ✌
There are differences between men and women. I believe in equality, but this idea that gender is a social construct is just not true.
Of course it's not, whatever feminists claim.
But i suppose seeing women break their backs building houses isn't of much interest. Best leave that to men.
Ha ha ha. Yes you mean well paying jobs I'm not for women. Is this is the difference,??? Because women are even better than men in construction job now everything gets technology is not necessary to be very powerful in addition I seen a lots of small fat man that's hard to move and their construction job. And give the looks of women which are very powerful and give good muscles better than this moment okay????
Raising family is very convenient to work in construction industry because if more flexible working hours leave the construction job for the women okay.
A few days ago i hauled brick on a job site for 6 hours straight on a 90 degree day and the next day i was in a boom lift 5 stories high wtf is fragile about that. Union jobs aren't cush or little... U dont know what ur talking about
Samantha Johnson union jobs are kush because your are guaranteed your job and you don’t have a boss cracking a whip on your ass to keep you productive. Anybody with a small construction crew that has to be productive to make money will not hire women 95 percent of the time. If you were a skilled worker you wouldn’t be hauling the brick, you’d be laying it (like how I imagine the man you were working with was) Sounds like you’re more of a tool bitch. I imagine you work for a union labor force yeah? You make a big deal about that one time you had to work hard in the heat, I do that shit everyday. I’d love to be on a cozy boom up in the air handing somebody bricks. I work on a residential frame crew just me and one other guy. I have to bust my ass everyday or else we don’t make money; I don’t have anyone else behind me to pick up the slack. Grown men drop like flies in this business you wouldn’t last a day.
P.s. if these women are such hard workers why literally all of them fat heifers
This whole video is a lie
This is hilarious hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Kung-fu flu, is that you?
Please stop making videos. This is so ignorant.
I'm calling bs on this whole video. She obviously doesn't know crap about our industry. There are a hole slew of women on the jobsite, from foreman, leads, safety managers, and plenty of carpenters flaggers, fitters, HVAC. This woman has no idea.
"a hole slew" you mean like maybe 5% of the work force? Women in general have no interest in doing physical labor. They leave that up to the lemmings (men).
Well maybe because women don't want to work in construction because some of these job need you to actually study for it and have a licence for the job.
My dad never studied or had a license for it. He was picked up on the side of the road and started simple with painting, and then he was taught everything else from roofing, foundations, flooring, cabinet making and installing, all of it. The only people who need to be licensed are the general contractors and project managers, but the actual construction workers don't, and it's why so many illegals are easily employed in this field. What is making it difficult for women to break into this field is that you have to be physically strong. It's easier for a man to work with big machinery, heavy wood, bricks, cinder blocks than it is for a woman. There are women who are strong, don't get me wrong, I know, I am one of them. But a man that has my same weight and height will always be stronger than me, and he will also be more efficient in the construction business than a woman.
@@spirittammyk the point is that most women aren't interested in working in construction. sure I know so many people begin careers that they never imagined doing and don't have the license or knowledge (at the time), but over time experience beats having a license or what school you went to. Also, good job being a strong women in working the fields. My Dad doesn't have a licence and change careers.
@@22services With all due respect, most men aren't either.
I'm in my fifth year I'm getting my license what is wrong with the world oh my gosh I'm writing a book come find...it..
Nah you don’t need a license or education to start out
Because it’s a mans world . We don’t tell whamen how to make samiches.
cry about it
Lmao you can't even spell women or sandwiches
I sure as hell will never make a "samich" for you 😂🤚
Loll whamen. Your mother dropped you on your head, I presume?
@@thawillyfish sounds like you're projecting
Samiches....Ha! Working class women don't ever "make" sandwiches. (We only eat'm). Lol
Without us, there's no world at all. So as long as your body isn't the one that can squeeze out another human life, it's our world moreover than it is a man's. Guys know this all too well, hence why the greater percentage of transgenders are men trying to become women. Lol
You cant lift as much. You are not as tall. Tools are heavy. Your not set up for this. Know your roll. Only 2% of carpenters are women and that's rounding up. That is your elite. Stop trying to swim up current while wondering why you are not making progress.
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@@judielove3784 Please don't think that I am a male chauvinist. I hold women in the highest regard. The reason why western civilization is so strong, and developed is because of the choices of free women. Only the strongest, kindest, and smartest men are chosen to reproduce. Women came first. Men are the combat version of a woman.
I want my wife to not have to participate in the workforce. The bond between our sons and her is paramount. In her spare time, she tends her small garden and always has an art project in the works. This was her idea. It feels natural. It is natural.
@@girthbrooks7645 But there's situations where men aren't able to work because of ... therefore women have to take up work to provide for themselves and others.
Although I would love to be in a tradition family set up as well and put in the care to be a mother/wife, woman have to care for themselves first before carring for others because not everyone is allowed allowed to thrive being in their gender or wanting a traditional family.
Its not easy to stop doing things, that's not suited for your gender especially if its necessary for avoiding toxic people...
@@judielove3784 everyone IS allowed to thrive. That's on you and how hard you work.
I'm not sure I understand what you are try to convey.