Wish colleges would cut their useless "requirement course" crap. Don't make journalism majors to take calculus courses as requirement. Don't make chemistry majors to take art electives as requirements. Don't make business majors to take philosophy or life science courses as requirements. Hell, stop making history courses basic graduating requirements for every major. We already went through this crap in high school, why do it the same in college? Looking back at my transcript, I can see around 20-30 credit hours worth of courses that has zero bearing on my major. It's fine for students to take those courses outside their majors for their personal interest, but it's just bs to require students to take them as required curriculums, especially when tuition is already so expensive.
I will graduate next year from Ventura College with an A.S. in accounting. looking back, most of my coursework is all general education I will not use. Wish there were more accounting courses that were required instead of general classes I will not need,or use.
I quit school in 10th grade to work in an autobody shop. Needed the money to survive. No regrets. Though I was paid poorly and endured lots of abuse, I learned a marketable skill. I eventually started buying houses to fix up and rent out. Opportunity is off the beaten path where no one wants to go. Hustle and ambition beats any college degree.
“Is college a scam?” It depends. If you pick the right major and follow the right career path (law, compsci, aerospace, nanotech, medical, etc.) with great ROI then it’s not. Higher education is a looong term investment, and it is not for everyone The system is rigged but you can also benefit from it with the right strategy. Your answer actually says a lot more about you than it is about the system
Even if people choose these majors, a lot of them end up switching to an easier major. So, what will be available to these students that had to change course?
@@NewBlueTrue they mostly become teachers of whatever subject they pick, and later their students also pick that major due to there prof being so passionate only to realize theyre screwed lmao the cycle cont...
the best majors are: Accounting, Engineering, Medicine (Nursing and Doctor of Medicine), Actuarial Sciences and Management of Informational Systems (advanced IT guy). Forget Law, it's one of the least scarce degrees that seems to still have some creditability.
Only positive that came from college were the friends that I made. Other than that everything I’ve learned has mostly been from on the job experience lol.
@@sierragarcia990 And how do you get the experience (ie the job) if you have neither previous experience or education? If you have no experience and no education, you can get the education by going to college... but nobody will give you the experience if you have neither previous experience or education.
I couldn't afford college the first time, so I went back as a part-time student at age 38. All of my credits transferred and I'm close to graduating with my bachelor of science in biology, debt-free. Just gotta find a way to make it work for you. It took me forever to get it done but I will say the second time around I did it the right way. It was a great experience, especially as an older student. I gained a lot of transferrable job skills like science writing, calculus, lab techniques, statistics...things I couldn't teach myself. It was worth it for me when the time was right. I appreciate your personal narrative and your acknowledgement that college is great but not for everyone.
@@rachaelvaldivieso3434 26 is still very young. If you want to go and can find a way to make it work, I think it's definitely a worthy investment of your time and energy. Best wishes!
I relate a lot to how you feel Charlie. I went to UCLA between 2017-2018. I transferred there from CC with a strong drive to get there. I knew out of HS I couldn’t get in, so I took classes at three different CC to get the courses that articulated to UCLA, was active on campus, took Honors classes, and got only two B’s while in CC. Once I finally got to UCLA, however, I completely changed. I realized I wasn’t as smart as I thought I was, I hadn’t thought hard enough on what I’ll do AFTER UCLA and not simply just getting there, and I became very reserved and shy. Although you don’t regret going to college, I do. I commend you for walking on the campus when you have some thoughts on what you wish you would have prioritized instead. I’ve been to the campus again since graduating (fyi, I felt so undeserving of my degree, I elected not to walk and finished early by taking summer classes because I felt I shouldn’t have got accepted there) and found it hard to not be filled with regret. I’m now in commercial real estate and it pains me that I spent so much time and energy on my degree which now has NOTHING to do with my job. For all young adults out there, please do not prioritize the name of the school. I thought going to UCLA alone would open so many doors. It has gotten me nothing more than a passing compliment that I went there. It hasn’t made, at least for me, any more competitive. My advice: think about what you want to DO and not where you WANT to go. I’m positive that I would be somewhere a lot further in life at my current age of 25 if I thought harder about AFTER college and not simply college. Please don’t think your life is ruined if you don’t go to a big name school. You have complete control of your trajectory. Think long term before going to college is my advice.
I'm going for the obvious and guess that you were a Philosophy major, Plato. If that's the case, or whatever you majored in, you've done very, very well. I know Sociology, History, and Polisci majors who are in Commercial RE, and they've majored in these because UCLA doesn't have a marketing or a real-estate major, and its Bizecon, Econ, and Math/Econ majors still have a lot of tough econ theory (and add math for the latter major). But these are no different than most of the top-tier schools which don't have undergrad professions majors; but to UCLA's credit, it has recently added more real-life application to its econ major as well as in its management offerings, and a lot of students are co-majoring or minoring in Stats or Applied Math and are taking the computing specialization, so they're getting a good quant background. But in real estate you don't need all this and in fact any degree that you do is good enough, along with the preparation you alluded to, taking various internships, and joining the clubs like BREA (Bruin Real Estate Association). And these clubs and internships are what college can point you to, and to help you with your professional ambitions if a student seeks them out.
I've heard something about how most people's performance don't change in college, it's only a place where you get education but it's still you who will make anything out of it.
@@dericmederos1514 Is that seriously what you're worried about? Of all things that you could feel upset about, it's that? I mean this respectfully, but some day I think you will mature and begin to realize that temporary indulgences like that are not only pointless, but incredibly damaging to society. I go to college right now. I live with my parents. I don't party, I don't sleep around, and I have absolutely no feelings of missing out, because I've seen other people do that stuff and it's terrible. I study, I go to the gym, I watch sports, spend time with friends, and someday I hope to have a committed relationship. I am perfectly happy that way. There are so many things that are way more important than bending over a few drunk women, to put it bluntly.
Charlie: “Why are you in college?” Ryan: “I’m honestly not really sure. It’s just the NORMAL thing for people to do nowadays.” Charlie: “What do you hope to do after college with your degree?” Ryan: “I HAVE NO CLUE.” So he’s going come out with 120k loans, that you could never get rid of and HOPE it works out in the end, even though there’s tons of horror stories of ppl’s lives getting ruined by student loans. I never understood how students and parents allow this to happen. 🤦🏾♂️
I chose not to go to college. Definitely missed out on meeting new people and getting a higher education. But I’m 23 with 100k+ invested in the stock market, 15k cash, and a fully paid off car worth 20k. All while sending money to my mom periodically to help her out. I also have great friends and got to experience partying with them while they were In school. You don’t need college to be financially successful. It just depends how determined you are.
I went to college and it was a colossal waste of time and money. I now run my own business which I started from the skills I gained independently of college. In my business, I only hire people based on their experience, projects, and portfolios and never look at their degrees.
Former UCLA Psychobio major here too. College was super hard as a premed and I failed a lot of classes and dealt with mental health issues. After college, I learned more of what I wanted and now have a successful career in software engineering. College was expensive af, but it gave me the life experiences and lessons I needed as a young adult.
I get super mad when I remember that I fell for this scam. I wasn’t mature and mentally healthy to go but I did because of parents. Only had 20K in debt but the word uni gives me panic attacks.
Why did you go to a 20K school? There are plenty of Junior colleges and State U that are only a few thousand dollars! It's your own ignorance that got you into trouble. These schools are not for people who can't pay for it. You shouldn't borrow money in the first place.
I went to UCLA straight out of high school. I left after my first quarter because I didn’t think it was worth the cost. I went to CC and then another UC, majored in Computer Science, and found my wife. I’m doing much better now:)
Unless you have a very specific goal that can only be achieved through college, do NOT go. The default option should be not going to college unless you have a good reason, not the other way around.
What if you goal changes during a college? It's kinda crazy to determine as a teenager what your specific goals are. In college, you meet people from different fields, can take classes outside your teenage comfort zone, join a club for sth new to you - it's about exploring which is way harder to do outside of college.
I agree with what you say about networking more. I was super focused on work, and classes, and volunteer opportunities that I didn’t intentionally make friends, but now, I’ve come to realize that developing those relationships is probably the MOST important element of college.
Lowkey wish I had been more strategic with choosing my major (though at the time that was the last thing I wanted to hear lol). It’s a huge time and monetary investment & not something that should be taken lightly! Love these interview style videos you’ve been doing!!!!
Weird like even in college I still couldn’t figure what I wanted to study and after I graduated with business I don’t have much interests in it other than marketing and entrepreneurship lol. I find that education traveling photography etc are my interests haha
Definitely had regrets about UCLA and college. I wish I was more outgoing and met more folks instead of focusing on my grades as much. Honestly, I felt like senior year I didn’t want to meet folks cause I was “going to graduation and bounce” anyways. But now looking back, I appreciate the time in the dorms, Wooden Center and all the fun classes too.
@@girlwomen515 That depends entirely on the friends you make. If your friends were a bunch of drunk party goers, then yeah, hopefully you outgrow them...
When a business scams its customers the consumers can file class action lawsuits for damages. No institution has done more damage than the university system.
The University is not a scan. You don't have to go to an expensive school. There are plenty of junior colleges and state U that are less than 10K a year. Also, not all degrees have tons of jobs. If you get a degree in geology, for example, you're not going to make a lot of money or have a lot of jobs waiting for you. So, it's the parent or the child's own stupidity that gets them into debt and trouble. Not the school. The expensive schools are for RICH people, not normal people. Now a days, all the normal people want to go to Rich places, and live in Rich lifestyles by borrowing money. It's stupid to follow the Joneses.
It’s not that college is a scam, but rather a matter of you reap what you sow. If you major in an in-demand and high paying major and are diligent in your studies, then it’s totally worth it. If you major in a saturated or low paying major, it’s not worth it. If you go to college and just party all day, it’s both. You reap what you sow.
Na its a scam unless you want to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer or scientist. Anything else can be done on your own. Even then, Med school is outdated Cramming in 50,000,000,000 words , off 2.5hrs of a sleep, every single day, only to never see that information again, maybe once if your lucky. And HALF the information is outdated and wrong.
Agreed. I think a lot of people get scammed into thinking one of those jobs are required to do well and take care of your family. So going to college isn't the scam, it's the thinking that that's all we should be aiming for
I think it's also about a lack of information. Although students now have the internet to supposedly make up for the more oversaturated and difficult post grad climate, it doesn't mean students can really get enough specifics about certain fields/industries simply through RUclips influencers and online schools, such as turnover rate in industries, what work the job will truly have you do and whether you can withstand that for decades..For many highschool students still given the dogma of getting good grades, a degree, and the vast yet shallow information on the internet or their parents, there's just no way to make an entirely informed decision, though i do think you are right in that at least no matter what path you choose you should work hard.
the scam is the universities offering worthless degrees along with needing to take classes unrelated to the major. That said I did business IT in the dot come bubble and people making big money after graduation then I graduated right when it busted 😂. Couldnt find a $10 job in the field. Was college fun? Yes. Did I learn much from the classes? No. I made the mistake of not networking enough and actually thinking about what I was going to do after.
I'm not sure why, but I feel like one of the worst things in life is to depend on your parents too much, even if they are great parents, you realy need to build your personality from your own experiences and remember who you truly are, great video
You need to interview people who are a few years OUT of college. When you're in college you are naive and you think you're doing the right thing, but those who regret it, like you, realize it afterward when they look back on their college years.
Graduated from UCLA back in 2018 and watching this was very nostalgic. I agree with a lot of your points and I as well have regrets in regard to how I went about certain things at the time. A lot of growth was done throughout those years and this university will always have a special place in my heart.
I learned more about life experience, grit, and being a man and things that matters through hard-work, traveling, and pursuing personal goals than all four years of school combined.
I realize my interests have changed after college. College is a way to network and figure out your career path. It depends what you want to do. If you are lost than I would go to college. It bought me more time and still haven’t totally figure out everything lol. I have much interests. I recommend if you get scholarships and such go to college otherwise for work and internships experience is key. It’s important to know college is one of the best times to explore who you are. It’s not for everyone. Tbh as well a degree is valuable but you can be successful without it and sometimes I realize I didn’t maybe needed all these classes for a career but at least I learned a lot. Mainly college was for networking and such for me. Study abroad was also fun too
2:27 graduated from UCLA with a degree in Poli Sci too, and I didn't go to law school. It was an incredible, transformative experience, but now--owning my own small business--I can't say it was worth the cost and time.
Same, from UCSD. Didn't go to law school because at the end of the day I hated the actual "school" part. I hated being judged off of homework and not course knowledge.
So you essentially wasted your time getting the degree besides gaining valuable experiences? Small business ownership has no correlation to Poli Sci. Very few who major in Poli Sci doing what they love
It seems like you learned a lot yourself filming this video! I whole heartily believe that everything happens for a reason and we have to make the best of it! You’re killing it! Hopefully that gave you some closure.
My language teacher said this in my junior year of high school, "Anybody know who the biggest thieves are in California?" and we all started shouting out corporations and politicians. Then he said "You're all wrong, it's the UC system. Didn't think that did you?."
The American college system is crazy. I am from Ireland and I have graduated with 0 debt. College costs around 3k per year here but I qualified for the means tested grant, so all of my college fees were paid and I received around €300 a month from the government to help with my living expenses. After graduating I got a relatively high paying job as a software engineer and more than paid back my college fees after a few years In taxes, so seems like a win-win to me!
I think it definitely depends on the situation. I just graduated in-state from UCLA engineering this year. I come from a low income family, so financial aid (from CA gov, federal gov, and UCLA) fully paid for my tuition (about $13k per year) as well as provide an additional $15k per year for rent and food. I actually pocketed around 5k every year. Students also qualify for food stamps ($300 per month) and free Covered CA health insurance. My situation may not be the same as others, but with good financial planning, going to a public uni in CA can be quite affordable.
@@eligreg99 And you may want to check your attitude if you want to remain open-minded for methods that could be integrated into our system to potentially ameliorate it, in lieu of parading around like an ignorant jobbernowl that does nothing to try and better things you've inherited. Our country got to its status as it did because of great people that rose above the station they were born to in life and gave back to their country many times more. You don't get to that status with a closed mindset.
i was forced to go to college by my parents and i couldn’t pull through and finally dropped out and currently i’m just working and getting paid. it was the best decision ever and i’m so happy now. it made me depressed not being able to work and get money and having to attend class and have a bunch of work to do in/out of class. once i get off from work, i can just rest and relax and i’m getting paid from it. i know so many people who graduated and have hella debt and is working a minimum wage job…
Sorry but that’s never worth it. Putting in a little effort and research into college is always so much more worth it than kicking up your feet and working a dead end job.
I hate to say it but at 2:13 that girl perfectly exemplifies why so many people mess up college. We are too young, too naive, and we don't have a concrete reason to why we are there in the first place. Most likely because familial pressures and it's the most natural next step after high school. It would make more sense if we got some life experience first, know ourselves, our interests, and at least have a foundation of what we want to do in life before investing time and money into a degree. On the flipside UCLA is hard to get into so for her she probably didn't even think about why she wanted to go there but just knows that it sounds great when you say you go to UCLA.
I graduated with a bachelor's in Computer Science. Knowing now, i would've done only college. Recommend doing college first and then you can transfer to a university to finish the rest. Financial aid covered everything and I graduated with no debt. Avoid taking out any loans. Get a part time job and apply for scholarships to cover your living expenses.
College is a scam for me. I can see most of the students have talked about building networks, friendships and overall, they mentioned about having experiences in college. But how long does these friendships last? For experiences, I would rather do volunteer work in hospitals, orphanages, religious organizations etc or at least engage in any type of social activities. Nowadays, even nursing program is offered online. This saves a crazy amount of money and time which is why I choose the non-traditional route. But yeah! It depends from person to person. The ultimate goal is to make decisions wisely and live peacefully. It’s ok to take the less popular road.
The price alone makes it a scam, but building networks and maintaining friendships is entirely your job- not the school's. Two years out of college my friends and I have jobs in our fields and we live together/work together, some at the same companies because we extended job opportunities to each other. You won't always find great people to stick with long term, but most times people don't even try to begin with.
Plot twist: Maybe the whole point of college *IS* to realize that its pointless. You then understand that ONLY YOU can make your own life. Not some piece of paper or some frat connections or whatever. And paying back the ridiculous debt teaches you money management. Hey , just thinking positively
That is such a naive thing to say. College is what you make of it. It is an investment in yourself. Saying it is “pointless” shows your lack of knowledge and ignorance.
@@GOHST13ly very well said. Also, here’s a big idea, maybe find a school that fits your price bracket slightly better? These designer colleges charge so much because they can, just like the new iPhone costs what it does because it can cost that much.
I started college in the fall of 1993 it cost $7800 a year. That was in line with the wages of the day. These colleges are out of control with price. Stay strong young people it’s worth it just needs regulated!
This is all a matter of perspective and circumstance. In some ways it is a scam, some ways its not. You can cherrypick examples of how it helps or harms a person in the long run. Your final thoughts were spot on, well said.
Your video brings back lots of memories, my friend. I was also shy during my college years, and didn't go to office hours and get to know my professors. Big mistake. But I believe college is for finding out what you are not good at, as well as what you are good at. And I also felt bad about my parents having to pay for my tuition and housing while I was trying to hurry up and graduate in time. It was, overall, not worth the time. But, hey, I do have my degree...
College is definitely good for certain things, especially if you can afford it. A degree is also an achievement that you take with you your entire life. Regardless of whether it’s right or not it is a status symbol. It also develops critical thinking regardless of what you study. There are also plenty of careers that you simply can’t pursue without a college degree. Life is also not just about money, it’s about experiences and relationships, money is just a means to an end. There aren’t many other places outside of college where you get to spend your days and nights with people in your age range and similar intelligence level. It’s a great place to get a lot of immaturity “out of your system”, you can get away with a lot of experimentation and after college just write it off as a different phase of your life and then move on and hopefully not be hit too hard with a mid-life crisis because you didn’t have fun in your youth to realize fun isn’t all that.
That’s also true but in all reality who gives a crap. I don’t really care if I need social approval from people just from a degree but I can show what I’m passionate about and strive more from just being yourself.
@@scro0213 of course. I was more emphasizing the experience aspect of college though which is not so much about social approval. It does sound like you’re still aiming for social approval though just through your passion instead, which is fine. To some degree the desire for social approval is inescapable, if you absolutely don’t care, you’re just a crazy person farting loudly in public. To some extent, you have to care.
@@bigheadrhino To care is a human instinct though, everyone will always seek social approval because we are hardwired to but for me I don’t focus too much on that, I focus on my goals and to be better individually and caring about what others has to say to me can’t decide what I should do with my life, I’m literally typing with zero sleep right now so sorry if my point doesn’t get across. And college can be beneficial you just gotta play the right cards in your hands.
@@scro0213 yes I agree. What others say can be used to inform your own decision making though. There’s value in benefiting from the experiences of others, we can only experience so much ourselves.
I am glad I am going to community college. I get to focus on what I want in life, don't get invited to intoxicating parties and save money. Now I vlog art galleries and do other creative stuff like painting and music.
How do you get over the fear of missing out? Currently on my first semester at cc and I feel really left out seeing my friends at their universities living the “college life.”
It depends. Whenever you drive on a nice road, ride up and elevator or visit your doctor for an appointment remember that all those items were the result of someone going to college/uni. For the vast majority who went to school for a sub par degree, yea it was a scam
It's a scam that's why they enroll woman and blacks and turn away qualified white men and Asians. That is a scam to make money off diversity and people that cannot pass classes
Thank you for the perspective of college. College is not for everyone especially with so many resource out their that you can learn & invest in. It all depends if the person’s career goals and path. If you wanna be an entrepreneur the pathway wouldn’t be college, but if you want to be a surgeon or doctor college is a must. It all depends on the individual’s career paths.
Double Engineering major here. One from CSULA (CE) and other from UCLA (ME). Is college worth it? Yes, if you pick the right major. Do you have to go to a prestigious university? Absolutely not. Now that I do regret: UCLA was a very expensive choice for my budget. Like many students I felt prestige would guaranteed a good job. Little did I know it would be my love and passion for a the field that would guarantee me my dream job.
Hey Charlie! I am SO glad I found this video! I have related to so much that you've said, I had the opposite kind of support from my parents I had wished my parents pushed me to a higher paying field like nursing or engineering but instead was advised to do what would make me happy, so I chose Marketing (through a series of major changes). And let me tell you it has been ROUGH after college lol I landed a marketing executive role during my senior year but got sick and moved out of state to recover with my parents. From there, worked at a dealership became a lead unrelated to marketing. Now - getting skin back in the game I am currently working at a warehouse with early hours to spend the day working on my business and portfolio TO try and land a marketing role again (has been rough). And on top of all of that most "marketing" jobs are really just sales jobs which can be achieved without a marketing degree. So in the field of business I think the only degree worth your while is Accounting or Logistics.. honestly even Graphic Design. Other degree's I think are worth your while is Law, Pre-Med, Engineering and Comp Sci. I also had my school paid for by my dad's gi bill so I WISH I had chose better with my degree tbh. I initially was eager to be a dental hygenist but my awful counselor at the time DISCOURAGED ME. Many misery years later. Here I am. Working at a warehouse. I know I can't blame anyone but myself, but.... I just wish I had the insight I do now. And one of the hardest learning lessons is to bELIVE in YOURSELF (I already struggle with self confidence) I wish I didn't let the fear of not having grades high enough to enter the dental hygene program discourage me. We all live and learn. I hope this helps someone.
0:44 same here Charlie. I went to UC Santa Cruz class of 2007. Majored in Biology and was never able to get a job related to my degree. I realize passing the exams and writing the 20 page papers didn’t teach me any job skills. I can’t believe I experienced so much discrimination. I thought life was based on good grades and good schools = merit… it is not!
Education has been turned into a financial industry in the 1960s. One needs to really plan where and how to spend money on an education. It is a backwards system unfortunately compared to many parts of Europe
Really so straight white males and Asians are not being looked at for the benefit of woman and blacks is not a scam? They do that for government handouts for diversity. That is what a scam is
Not knowing how to pursue college/uni "right" might heavily depend on if you're a first gen to go. It might be best to do a CC first (money saver, too) then find a uni that's a best fit. It's also really helpful to find a mentor of some kind to reference because you might be going on your assumptions on everything. Lastly, even if college/uni didn't go as you might have thought, the critical thinking skills a person learns is more helpful than you know. You might not apply Econ or Poly Sci in your everyday life but your thinking abilities thank you!
Felt that, as an undecisive biology major at UCLA.. graduated early and decided I didn't want to go into healthcare. Now starting my second degree in CS :) it's never too late, but also it made me realize that I should've thought more closely about my major. I was too naive at the time
It depends on if your parents are professionals already or not. If not, then you have no circle to support you without it. Minorities should go for the access stamp.
I think the best thing to do for people who can afford college or aren't sure about it is to do two years in a community college(which I'm pretty sure is very affordable or even free depending on the state) and then transferring to their state uni to finish off their degree. Also I've heard from some of my parents friends that some jobs are willing to pay for masters and doctorate degrees? But I never looked into that so idk.
I got my AA in my early 20s, started my own business for a few years, but realized I wanted something more stable. However, couldn't find a decent paying job with just an AA degree, and it seemed like my business didn't translate well on a resume. So I went back to school for a business bachelor's degree, got that degree paid by Starbucks through their tuition program, and now I have a great paying job with a great company. I don't personally think that my time with school was worth more than 'real life education', but it seemed necessary to just get through the resume filter process...
My friend's sister went to UCLA. The thing about it is, the first time she stepped onto campus, she had this grand, excited feeling of "Oh my god I'm actually here." But that feeling only lasts so long, as four years go by, that feeling quickly fades, she said she began to see how boring and unnecessary it all was, then got hit by debt after
It depends on what you're planning to do in the future. Obviously, you have to go to study science, be a doctor, pharmacist or nurse. My experience has helped me push me out of my comfort zone intellectually. I learned to do proper research like looking for scientific articles and journals. The downside of college is that it can be too expensive.
As a 24 year old I had my college completely paid off after joining the Army National Guard and using their tuition benefits (STA and GI Bill), working a full time job in construction, and maintaining post high school scholarships. Know your options, have a plan and most importantly work hard!
Currently in college myself, transferred from community school into a very competitive university after getting my AA. Before being where I am now, I dropped out after my first year at a university with 8k in debt, was able to pay off the 4k of that debt, work, and enjoy two years before deciding to go back for a STEM degree. I believe within those two years I found what I wanted to do for at least the next 15 years and that required a degree. College is better utilized by mature people with set goals, exploratory college can pay off but is very risky. With that being said, I think college is great! Just like others, I do not think it is meant for everyone. I believe college should no longer be the primary sales point for 17 - 19 year old young adults coming straight out of high school. Although, I do believe it should still be the foundation. Atleast when I was in highschool (2017 graduate), they were doing much better with giving other options like trade school, apprenticeships, internships and more. These fresh high school graduates should be given a buffer year coming into the real world to truly make a plan before just deep diving into college or the real world. Grown adults, 24+, can benefit from college much more than someone so young and immature, granted I am 23. It should be the rule. With the exception that there are young adults mature enough to make the most of college and really grasp something out of it.
I would say College/University is worth it but make sure the degree will lead to work opportunities. I worked hard to get good grades and worked closely with art teachers to build a solid portfolio. I got a full ride with government aid so I graduated from college debt free this year, bachelor's degree. I do 3D animation, and I'm already working on projects and being paid, working remotely at home. In my free time I'm learning to code on the side since I enjoy working on my computer. My biggest advice is to do as many internships as possible to fill up the resume, it is considered work experience. I did lots of internships throughout my college years and I believe it has helped me land this opportunity. I plan on having multiple career paths in life as well, it's okay to have multiple interests. I love working in 3D modeling/animation for creative aspects but I am tackling coding to learn the tech aspect and teach myself how to solve problems. If you are pursing a degree for a career, make sure to get the most out of the degree after college.
omg thats amazing! i want to do something very similar! I have been trying to find a program that combines a technical foundation with art. so like doing CGI art, virtual reality, 3D modeling, etc. i finally found the college that has what i want and im planning to transfer to it (i go to a local uni right now, for free) and i just have a very strong feeling that this is what i want to do. ive been interested in digital arts and graphics my whole life, i have an extensive and (not to sound conceited) but strong portfolio from all the years of doing art because i truly love creative projects. i am going into some debt for the school but i'm hoping to get as much work experience as possible to get a job and manage it. if you have any advice please let me know! edit: would also like to mention that the degree is technically listed as a computer science degree which is high in demand right now. so even if i cant work an art job straight out of uni i can rely on tech experience.
@@Snowflake28936AJ Congrats! Honestly my biggest advice when you're in college is to do lots of internships, it is considered work experience. I did lots of internships for college credits, I list them on my resume. Make sure to build your demo reel and a strong portfolio as well. Having a strong demonstration of your skills in demo reels is important. Put in your personal projects if it showcase something you're challenging yourself, for example strong acting or facial expressions. Most of all, build connections and networks, it does increase the chance of landing a job. Communicate with professors or advisors about what kind of jobs you want to do so they can help you with recommendations or references for future jobs. In internships, when you work with someone, they can become your reference. If you don't understand something, don't be afraid to ask questions since internships and college is about learning the skills you will use for your future jobs. That's awesome you're pursuing a computer science degree, that's a great degree since it's in high demand. I would say you're on the right path, keep it up and get the degree 👍
My one regret is not having taken an internship while I was a student. Also, I feel that I’ve learned more just doing my own research for free on the internet on legit research sites than I actually learned in college courses.
@@sweetcheeks5775 "More than just Google on the internet..." True, and for the truth about a lot of things it's important to use other search engines because Google has a very strong liberal bias. They hide a lot of things. "...and Google is just as accurate as college courses" Considering that most colleges are also hard left, this is also true. My POINT is that one needs to be aware of what certain search engines are doing to skew search results and misinform.
I’m talking about core subjects like math, chemistry, biology, anatomy, etc. Not the influence of Lesbian trans binary radicalism on the sociopolitical landscape 101. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.😃
@@danityvanityinsanity LOL true true. the internet can definitely be useful for STEM because its just one correct answer, its not opinionated between different ideologies and groups of people, no. one answer. period.
what I learned from my family members is that colleges are all the same unless you go to an ivy league college where you can gain connections it's useless. The main reason jobs would even care if you got into a major ivy league college is because it's hard to get into. Going to college proves that you can follow directions. Nowadays you can learn anything online and for everything else you can get certifications.
They are irrelevant but if you think of it from a common sense pov it is not so bad to have a general understanding of the world. Better to have basic understanding and education that to be proudly ignorant spewing misinformation. Something that is very common.
@@carlosspicywiener9267 The problem is we pay for our education and to get the degree we want within a reasonable time frame. Imagine you cut your finger and someone saying, well yes we can get you some first aid, but first we’re gonna make you pay 20 bucks to jump through hurdles ultimately slowing your ability to accomplish what you want to accomplish and costing more. Becoming well rounded should happen in highschool and stop at college. Unless you actively seek out that choice.
Unfortunately, you gotta learn the some of these subjects or have really good reading comprehension if you wanna do well in the CARS section of the MCAT.
@@carlosspicywiener9267 yes its better to waste money on classes we dont want or need to take. So that we get in even more debt when we should really jus be focused on classes that will help us in our job. Plus we are in colleges, you probably already have a good understanding of that kinda stuff. And if you do not its because you werent paying attention and you likely wont pay any more attention in a college class unrelated to your major. The guy was right about it being a scam because they force you to spend your money on classes that will not help you at all. You should be able to choose your classes and if those unrelated classes are required then they should be required but free
In my opinion, going to college isn't a choice for many. Many think they have to go because it's what they're supposed to do and that's how people have a hard time figuring out what they want to do. You never hear someone telling you that they want to go to do college to do x y z and if they do, it's rare. It's literally a cycle that repeats itself because parents tell you that you need college and there's nothing else but college. "Go to college, get your degree, and you have a good future." That's the typical saying. Being reserved and an introvert, I regret college. I wish I gained more life experiences rather than having the dread feeling of going to college every day.
I regret going to college too... I went to a private art school called Ringling and they totally scammed me knowing I was going in on the loan by myself and took advantage of my youth and ignorance and put my loan with private lenders rather than federal loans. Luckily reality snapped into me after I met a group of graduates that was homeless and jobless. I left before the second year started. Now that I am older and have tried to get the college loan relief from Biden... I found out I dont qualify and that journey helped me realize in my research that the school didnt even apply any of the grants that I had qualified for. My husband is a college graduate and I now make more than him. Sighs. Totally a scam. All jobs want experience... by the time you are ready to get into the workforce (for most degrees) the industry has changed and what you learned is irrelevant compared to someone with industry experience.
yeah private art schools in the US are a total scam.50k tuition for a year is insane! Especially since you really don’t need a degree to be a working artist.
It honestly depends on where you want to go what career you want. Law, medicine, politics, history, in depth sciences. Those kind of careers you need a degree.
College kids always say they’re broke and don’t eat or have $50 to their name yet they are at the bars on weekends and have all the latest apple products. I really don’t get it. When I was in college, everybody seemed to have money for whatever they wanted.
Wow Charlie! I've been watching you for months and realized today that you took my grad pics in 2015!! I wound up going to med school and I have some complicated feelings about UCLA as well. Was definitely a privilege to go, but didn't feel very supported which made things hard. Also.. think you were talking about Dykstra, not De Neve (as someone who also lived there pre-renovation 😅)
Those that said "I don't know what I'm going to do after college with my degree" I know they're lost. Those are the ones that scream "college is a waste of time" all because they're all lost
college is a waste of time unless u r trying to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer but other than that there's no reason to go to college meeting new people n getting connections can be good but u can do all that without college
Yes you are right but you are also intentionally neglected that the only path in life that is pushed on people is college. We give no other opportunities where people cannot only succeed but also have the necessities to live such as shelter and clean water. It’s not their fault they are lost it’s the system trying to mold everyone into the same life.
Mad respect for you! I watched your video on USC (dad and bro went there) that you’re a Bruin, (your Mom is a Trojan) 😊 And that you give the Trojan sign ✌️
My one tip for college is make the most of it! Everyone wants to just rush through college, take the classes you need to get ur degree, and graduate and get a job. I’ve been taking a lil extra time with it because I weirdly enjoy taking different electives and expanding my knowledge on different topics. I’ve taken multiple sociology classes, art classes, economics, engineering, interpersonal growth, relationship, public health, public speaking, politics/government, marketing/business, and more electives. There’s so much access to info on niche topics, resources, connections. And once you’ve graduated, there’s not much access or motivation to learn new and important topics. I think if you’re able to take the time and money to do it, take some extra classes on topics you’re interested in!
I like your attitude. It's about the journey, not the destination. I enjoy learning in general so I'm using the energy I would have used learning something else and putting it towards a degree.
College was great for me. My degrees helped me get jobs and get scholarships for graduate school. I learn a great deal about computers, people, organizations, and life in general. Now, I teach college students with an emphasis on preparing them for life after college. My students get jobs that help people. I also teach public policy and personal finance, another course that students use after graduation. Do college right!
The idea of signing off my life to a corporation or company never sat well with me so I'm pursuing the entrepreneurial route, I rather have my own business then help expand someone elses.
College is not a scam, I feel like a lot of students are pressured into certain schools/certain majors by their parents and some don't do their research at all. One could do a community college for a couple years and then transfer, but some feel like that is beneath them and instead they choose to go to certain schools with no financial aid/scholarships and then graduate with a Bachelors they don't care about and debt.
My best friend graduated from university of Hawaii with her masters in health administration. She has a great paying job except her paychecks go straight to her debts in student loans. But she made a great group of friends in the university.
Ayy I graduated from Hawaii too but with an undergrad degree. Tbh I would mainly go college for scholarships and financial aid covering most of my school. Luckily I have less than 9k in debt only because I got screwed over of financial aid
Same here, just left my Dental Hygiene program. Notice right away that it was not for me, it wasn’t something that I wasn’t passionate nor I had the drive for; compare to my classmates.
Get a degree that will let you get a high-paying job. Taking on $150,000 in debt to get a degree in history is dumb. Don’t get a degree in Greek poetry for $125,000! Unless you plan on getting a PhD don’t even bother with the humanities section.
Why did you choose that major tho? And what kind of classes did you have to take? Just kind of curious because this is the first time I've heard about this major.
So did you end up using your degree in Greek poetry or no? That's what people wanna know. You basically told everyone you have $125,000 in debt that will take you 30+ years to pay off; therefore, college sold you your degree. You invested $125,000 for x amount of years to make how much annually?
@@ArtisticYogurtz I mean I don’t mean to be rude because I also have 25k in student debt but I majored in psych and work in my field. I didn’t even know you could major in something like Greek poetry 😂
Went to business school back in 2016. Regret not going to the recruiting events as I exited college without a job. Big take here is you are paying for your school, make sure you pay your future self by doing what’s necessary to land a job.
What even is a scientist? Like what do you actually work on as a scientist that actually needs to be worked on? The baking soda volcano has already been invented what else can science bring us at this point?
@@antares3518 I’m not kidding I don’t understand how certain prosessions even exist after certain points Like why the fuck do we need astronauts it’s a waste of money and I have a cousin who works at NASA
I went to the University of Southern California and it was extremely worth it for me. I'd say if they didn't accept me, I wouldn't be able to do what I do today due to the practicality and credibility that's associated with USC. I think this really depends how practical and industry-relevant your professors/peers are. If all your professor is a relevant figure in the field and all your friends have parents who are relevant figures, you're probably going to learn 100x more than if you went to a school where everyone is just a career professor/student. Influences matter a lot -- you've got to be surrounded by talented peers with successful backgrounds to become successful yourself due to mindset, work standards, and connections. Private schools have the luxury of a smaller student base to work with. At UCs, there are simply too many people to create this environment. For this reason, every UC is going to feel like a scam for those who don't push themselves to take advantage of their schooling environment. We're going to start seeing this even with historically "safe ROI" majors such as computer science even at top UCs like Berkeley. Every year, they push out ~3,600 students in their undergrad/grad program. Tech is no longer a new industry that requires thousands of seats filled locally at FAANG -- graduation will not mean a guaranteed cushy job anymore. You already see FAANG now opting to hire out of Stanford for the better plug & play success factor due to the aforementioned "success mindset" education during their school years. I will say this though: I don't think UCLA in particular is too much of a scam. It's a pretty hard school to get into, especially in 2022. If you've gotten in, you and your peers clearly have the capacity to do great things. A lot of employers (and employees, if you run your own business) will see your UCLA degree and associate a level of competence to your name. A large part of first world countries won't even give you a chance unless you have a decent degree. You might've benefited from the UCLA degree without even knowing it. It's one of those things where you don't appreciate it until you don't have it. As for many other schools throughout this nation with high acceptance rates, high tuitions, and no prominent alumni to speak of... they're quite obviously made for-profit and should be shut down for the sake of our country's future.
I mean idk I went to UC Irvine which is still considered to be a good school and I never once felt like any job cared about the school I went to or even my degree in general tbh
I’m two years deep and it’s definitely not fun. Now granite, I could go to parties but studies alone take up so much of my time I just want to go home at the end of the day and not spend another minute At that campus
The scam is people choosing degrees that don’t help them in their future. Pick a degree that helps you get a job and provide for yourself and family. Not one that is fun or interesting, that’s a recipe for not being able to pay off your debt later. Work is called work for a reason the weekend is for fun.
I'm currently going into my senior year at UC Irvine. Because of the pandemic (and probably me) I had a HORRIBLE college experience. Fall quarter was in person, Winter became half online, then Spring became this really weird quarter where I lost all my friends and had to seek therapy. I'm currently debating if I should attend the involvement fair this Fall and join clubs. If I stay antisocial and maintain that "graduate and dip" mindset, I feel like I'll regret it forever. Charlie, please give me some motivation!
I graduated from UC Irvine in 2018 and I HIGHLY recommend getting involved and joining clubs/ orgs. UCI is notorious for being a college that’s not very social and hard to make friends at. I made the majority of my friends through a club I joined. I’m sure it must have sucked to experience covid during school like that, but I would still highly recommend getting involved. It’s really the only way people make friends at that school.
Government needs to get out of the student loan business, if not the colleges will continually base their business practices based on what is essentially guaranteed money
As an international student, the time I spent doing a certificate program at UCLA was the best time of my life. It was Marketing. But I definitely think I've thrown tons of time n money on stuff I could have learned myself :/
Nice video Charlie! I still think college is the biggest scam ever 😂 it’s a great environment to network and develop yourself but not for the price. The experience doesn’t make up for the debt students have after in combination with the level of employment close to minimum wage jobs grads tend to get
There are always financial aid, grants, and scholarships available. You just have to put in the effort to research and look. And people with college degrees on average make 3x more than people with no degree and have more opportunities available to them. But sure “minimum wage” lol
@@GOHST13ly But they still have debt though. For making 3x more I sure here tons of complaints. Also, financial aid meant I couldn’t work because I would be outside of the bracket for making anything. So screw financial aid for incentivizing me not to work. Scholarships shouldn’t be the solution, I spent so many hours applying to scholarships, sleepless nights writing before deadlines while in college, and you know what I got? Jack shit. Except every company has my information. I wrote essays mostly, so many pages and for what? So sure, if you want to waste your precious life gambling your time away, by all means, scholarships.
I felt mildly depressed in college, I was trying to figure out why am I even here. Then I would tell myself, well you have to get a degree so you can get a good job, etc. I graduated with a lot of debt then struggled to even get a job. The first job I got was doing temp work, which turned into a permanent job. My boss didn't know for the longest if I had a degree and probably didn't care if I did. I was told they can train people to do the work. So I felt I wasted time going to college, I could have just graduated from high school and got a job in banking and work my way up. I know people who did just that. It depends on what kind of work you are trying to do. I didn't care for college, I forced my way through it. I'm not interested in going back to get my MBA. My first thought is how much money will it cost me? It's not worth the debt. I don't think it will greatly increase my income and opportunities. But having a MBA looks good on the resume lol. At the end of the day, it's all about who you know, not what you know.
I only have my first degree and all my friends have a BA or BS. We’re all literally in the same place. The only difference is that the real world forces you to grow up quickly while college stunts your emotional growth.. and then you get out like “omg.. I have bills to pay and loans” … you honestly don’t gather real responsibility until 26 years old.. idk which is better lol. Being a kid longer does sound like the better end of the stick.. parties.. random sex…loans.. it’s all the same shit.. except I am debt free
Exactly why good colleges don't just accept anyone. They want people who actually want to be there and know why they are there. Similar to how some people just go to college for a piece of paper, some colleges just enroll whoever that pay.
When I was in college I would have said it is worth it. It was only when I got out of college did I realize how little it matters. The only exception is if you go into a field that requires a specific degree (doctor for example).
It’s not a really a scam you just really need to know what your doing before, during, and after school. Once is over either going to suffer with a dead end job or powerful person with enjoy with or without a degree.
Having been educated for free abroad, I don't believe college is a scam, I do believe however that college is a scam in the US considering a considerable amount of countries in the developed world offer their citizens a free education up to college, and a handful to foreigners.
What do you guys think? Is college/uni a scam? Let me know in the comments!
I think you might have taken my senior pictures when I was graduating UCLA lol
College suck I learn more after school more than I learn in school. It is fking waste of time and money.
No, its not a scam.
I haven't been there and probably won't. I don't think it's a scam, but you can save money, time, learn and do a lot better by yourself.
Depends on the degree you're going for
Wish colleges would cut their useless "requirement course" crap. Don't make journalism majors to take calculus courses as requirement. Don't make chemistry majors to take art electives as requirements. Don't make business majors to take philosophy or life science courses as requirements. Hell, stop making history courses basic graduating requirements for every major. We already went through this crap in high school, why do it the same in college? Looking back at my transcript, I can see around 20-30 credit hours worth of courses that has zero bearing on my major. It's fine for students to take those courses outside their majors for their personal interest, but it's just bs to require students to take them as required curriculums, especially when tuition is already so expensive.
I will graduate next year from Ventura College with an A.S. in accounting. looking back, most of my coursework is all general education I will not use. Wish there were more accounting courses that were required instead of general classes I will not need,or use.
It's their way of making money
Private college is business like any other
The main purpose is to make money
Yup. That’s what I mostly dislike about college and these requirements that can make or break you graduating. That needs changing.
They do this to artificially inflate the price of your college degree.
The requirement course should be an internship with some real-life experience
I quit school in 10th grade to work in an autobody shop. Needed the money to survive. No regrets. Though I was paid poorly and endured lots of abuse, I learned a marketable skill. I eventually started buying houses to fix up and rent out. Opportunity is off the beaten path where no one wants to go.
Hustle and ambition beats any college degree.
Amazing!!!
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Love this. Congrats man
Poor to landlord arc. Only in America xD
Hope you’re doing well bro, I quit in 11th grade and joined the army
“Is college a scam?”
It depends. If you pick the right major and follow the right career path (law, compsci, aerospace, nanotech, medical, etc.) with great ROI then it’s not. Higher education is a looong term investment, and it is not for everyone
The system is rigged but you can also benefit from it with the right strategy. Your answer actually says a lot more about you than it is about the system
Yup!
Even if people choose these majors, a lot of them end up switching to an easier major. So, what will be available to these students that had to change course?
Agreed
@@NewBlueTrue they mostly become teachers of whatever subject they pick, and later their students also pick that major due to there prof being so passionate only to realize theyre screwed lmao the cycle cont...
the best majors are: Accounting, Engineering, Medicine (Nursing and Doctor of Medicine), Actuarial Sciences and Management of Informational Systems (advanced IT guy).
Forget Law, it's one of the least scarce degrees that seems to still have some creditability.
Only positive that came from college were the friends that I made. Other than that everything I’ve learned has mostly been from on the job experience lol.
Too bad the majority of jobs won't hire you without a degree or an equivalent education.
very true
@@alyailithyia not true. Many jobs hire those with experience without an education
@@sierragarcia990 And how do you get the experience (ie the job) if you have neither previous experience or education?
If you have no experience and no education, you can get the education by going to college... but nobody will give you the experience if you have neither previous experience or education.
Vocational school will get you into a job market real fast without years spent in higher institutions with more pay without any college degrees
I couldn't afford college the first time, so I went back as a part-time student at age 38. All of my credits transferred and I'm close to graduating with my bachelor of science in biology, debt-free. Just gotta find a way to make it work for you. It took me forever to get it done but I will say the second time around I did it the right way. It was a great experience, especially as an older student. I gained a lot of transferrable job skills like science writing, calculus, lab techniques, statistics...things I couldn't teach myself. It was worth it for me when the time was right. I appreciate your personal narrative and your acknowledgement that college is great but not for everyone.
This is amazing. It's never too late to go back at any age if that's what you want to do. I'm 29 and want to go back too.
@@rachaelvaldivieso3434 26 is still very young. If you want to go and can find a way to make it work, I think it's definitely a worthy investment of your time and energy. Best wishes!
Oops...I meant 29! My professors called me "a baby" at 39! Definitely not too late! :)
@@chrisulastone9151 Thank you so much! 😊
good luck finding a job with that major
I relate a lot to how you feel Charlie. I went to UCLA between 2017-2018. I transferred there from CC with a strong drive to get there. I knew out of HS I couldn’t get in, so I took classes at three different CC to get the courses that articulated to UCLA, was active on campus, took Honors classes, and got only two B’s while in CC. Once I finally got to UCLA, however, I completely changed. I realized I wasn’t as smart as I thought I was, I hadn’t thought hard enough on what I’ll do AFTER UCLA and not simply just getting there, and I became very reserved and shy. Although you don’t regret going to college, I do.
I commend you for walking on the campus when you have some thoughts on what you wish you would have prioritized instead. I’ve been to the campus again since graduating (fyi, I felt so undeserving of my degree, I elected not to walk and finished early by taking summer classes because I felt I shouldn’t have got accepted there) and found it hard to not be filled with regret.
I’m now in commercial real estate and it pains me that I spent so much time and energy on my degree which now has NOTHING to do with my job.
For all young adults out there, please do not prioritize the name of the school. I thought going to UCLA alone would open so many doors. It has gotten me nothing more than a passing compliment that I went there. It hasn’t made, at least for me, any more competitive. My advice: think about what you want to DO and not where you WANT to go. I’m positive that I would be somewhere a lot further in life at my current age of 25 if I thought harder about AFTER college and not simply college.
Please don’t think your life is ruined if you don’t go to a big name school. You have complete control of your trajectory. Think long term before going to college is my advice.
I'm going for the obvious and guess that you were a Philosophy major, Plato. If that's the case, or whatever you majored in, you've done very, very well. I know Sociology, History, and Polisci majors who are in Commercial RE, and they've majored in these because UCLA doesn't have a marketing or a real-estate major, and its Bizecon, Econ, and Math/Econ majors still have a lot of tough econ theory (and add math for the latter major). But these are no different than most of the top-tier schools which don't have undergrad professions majors; but to UCLA's credit, it has recently added more real-life application to its econ major as well as in its management offerings, and a lot of students are co-majoring or minoring in Stats or Applied Math and are taking the computing specialization, so they're getting a good quant background. But in real estate you don't need all this and in fact any degree that you do is good enough, along with the preparation you alluded to, taking various internships, and joining the clubs like BREA (Bruin Real Estate Association). And these clubs and internships are what college can point you to, and to help you with your professional ambitions if a student seeks them out.
I've heard something about how most people's performance don't change in college, it's only a place where you get education but it's still you who will make anything out of it.
Can i ask, how was your party and sex life? I didn't go to college and I feel like i missed out on hooking up and letting loose with new people my age
@@dericmederos1514 Is that seriously what you're worried about? Of all things that you could feel upset about, it's that? I mean this respectfully, but some day I think you will mature and begin to realize that temporary indulgences like that are not only pointless, but incredibly damaging to society. I go to college right now. I live with my parents. I don't party, I don't sleep around, and I have absolutely no feelings of missing out, because I've seen other people do that stuff and it's terrible. I study, I go to the gym, I watch sports, spend time with friends, and someday I hope to have a committed relationship. I am perfectly happy that way. There are so many things that are way more important than bending over a few drunk women, to put it bluntly.
Charlie: “Why are you in college?”
Ryan: “I’m honestly not really sure. It’s just the NORMAL thing for people to do nowadays.”
Charlie: “What do you hope to do after college with your degree?”
Ryan: “I HAVE NO CLUE.”
So he’s going come out with 120k loans, that you could never get rid of and HOPE it works out in the end, even though there’s tons of horror stories of ppl’s lives getting ruined by student loans. I never understood how students and parents allow this to happen. 🤦🏾♂️
Dude gonna be weighted down with the loans. How the hell you get 120k loans lol.
There is really nothing you could do
sheep follow sheep
@@GOD.WINS.777 this is why it’s not good to be “NORMAL.”
@@daydreamer2346 Yes. It's like going to a bar and being the only one not drunk. Teased. Tiring. Annoying. But rewarding.
I chose not to go to college. Definitely missed out on meeting new people and getting a higher education. But I’m 23 with 100k+ invested in the stock market, 15k cash, and a fully paid off car worth 20k. All while sending money to my mom periodically to help her out. I also have great friends and got to experience partying with them while they were In school. You don’t need college to be financially successful. It just depends how determined you are.
How much does the irs take from your stock profits?
@@realrareap2420 that’s a google question
what career? i just started as an electrician at 17 but feared that i wouldn't have a social life half as good as college.
Lol “financially successful”
- u need to raise the bar son
Doing.......
I went to college and it was a colossal waste of time and money. I now run my own business which I started from the skills I gained independently of college. In my business, I only hire people based on their experience, projects, and portfolios and never look at their degrees.
W person
@@Autcgraph bruh
@@some_invisible_guy what?
DAD I FOUND PROVE THAT I DONT NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE
@@mxhalGaming u damn right its useless (except for some carriers)
Former UCLA Psychobio major here too. College was super hard as a premed and I failed a lot of classes and dealt with mental health issues. After college, I learned more of what I wanted and now have a successful career in software engineering. College was expensive af, but it gave me the life experiences and lessons I needed as a young adult.
How did you learn software engineering outside of college %?
Life lessons can be learned for a fraction of the cost that we spent on college
I get super mad when I remember that I fell for this scam. I wasn’t mature and mentally healthy to go but I did because of parents. Only had 20K in debt but the word uni gives me panic attacks.
By experience she means getting ran through…..
Same, except my debt is 70k. 🙃
Millenials and Gen Z were sold the College BS.
27k in debt. Got a decent paying job but still feel scammed
Why did you go to a 20K school? There are plenty of Junior colleges and State U that are only a few thousand dollars! It's your own ignorance that got you into trouble. These schools are not for people who can't pay for it. You shouldn't borrow money in the first place.
I went to UCLA straight out of high school. I left after my first quarter because I didn’t think it was worth the cost. I went to CC and then another UC, majored in Computer Science, and found my wife. I’m doing much better now:)
Wow!!!!! That's awesome
Which uc
@@barracuda6817he literally said it
Unless you have a very specific goal that can only be achieved through college, do NOT go. The default option should be not going to college unless you have a good reason, not the other way around.
Fax I agree. Saw your other comment and I hope to do something similar I love entrepreneurship and will be greater than I am now!
What if you goal changes during a college? It's kinda crazy to determine as a teenager what your specific goals are. In college, you meet people from different fields, can take classes outside your teenage comfort zone, join a club for sth new to you - it's about exploring which is way harder to do outside of college.
I agree with what you say about networking more. I was super focused on work, and classes, and volunteer opportunities that I didn’t intentionally make friends, but now, I’ve come to realize that developing those relationships is probably the MOST important element of college.
Lowkey wish I had been more strategic with choosing my major (though at the time that was the last thing I wanted to hear lol). It’s a huge time and monetary investment & not something that should be taken lightly! Love these interview style videos you’ve been doing!!!!
I love your name
@@griselgriselda2901 thank you! (:
Weird like even in college I still couldn’t figure what I wanted to study and after I graduated with business I don’t have much interests in it other than marketing and entrepreneurship lol. I find that education traveling photography etc are my interests haha
@@Antbeast23 better late than ever. It's great that you know what you're interested now, I hope I can be sure with that by the time I graduate.
Definitely had regrets about UCLA and college. I wish I was more outgoing and met more folks instead of focusing on my grades as much. Honestly, I felt like senior year I didn’t want to meet folks cause I was “going to graduation and bounce” anyways. But now looking back, I appreciate the time in the dorms, Wooden Center and all the fun classes too.
Omg I'm in the same boat
Me too
i think you did the right thing focusing on your grades because college is hard and those friendships you create in college you outgrow trust me
@@girlwomen515 That depends entirely on the friends you make. If your friends were a bunch of drunk party goers, then yeah, hopefully you outgrow them...
What was your major
When a business scams its customers the consumers can file class action lawsuits for damages. No institution has done more damage than the university system.
Of course Uncle Sam’s student loans to every Tom, dick, and harry made the problem worse 🤑
you cant blame a system for ones lack of desire to personally educate urself on a subject like college
The University is not a scan. You don't have to go to an expensive school. There are plenty of junior colleges and state U that are less than 10K a year. Also, not all degrees have tons of jobs. If you get a degree in geology, for example, you're not going to make a lot of money or have a lot of jobs waiting for you. So, it's the parent or the child's own stupidity that gets them into debt and trouble. Not the school. The expensive schools are for RICH people, not normal people. Now a days, all the normal people want to go to Rich places, and live in Rich lifestyles by borrowing money. It's stupid to follow the Joneses.
ucla is a great school
@@MrEccentricities said the person never in college
It’s not that college is a scam, but rather a matter of you reap what you sow. If you major in an in-demand and high paying major and are diligent in your studies, then it’s totally worth it. If you major in a saturated or low paying major, it’s not worth it. If you go to college and just party all day, it’s both. You reap what you sow.
Na its a scam unless you want to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer or scientist.
Anything else can be done on your own.
Even then, Med school is outdated
Cramming in 50,000,000,000 words , off 2.5hrs of a sleep, every single day, only to never see that information again, maybe once if your lucky.
And HALF the information is outdated and wrong.
Agreed. I think a lot of people get scammed into thinking one of those jobs are required to do well and take care of your family. So going to college isn't the scam, it's the thinking that that's all we should be aiming for
I think it's also about a lack of information. Although students now have the internet to supposedly make up for the more oversaturated and difficult post grad climate, it doesn't mean students can really get enough specifics about certain fields/industries simply through RUclips influencers and online schools, such as turnover rate in industries, what work the job will truly have you do and whether you can withstand that for decades..For many highschool students still given the dogma of getting good grades, a degree, and the vast yet shallow information on the internet or their parents, there's just no way to make an entirely informed decision, though i do think you are right in that at least no matter what path you choose you should work hard.
Engineering isn't a guaranteed job because you have no work experience. Although it is still better than the rest of the trash offered by a landslide.
the scam is the universities offering worthless degrees along with needing to take classes unrelated to the major. That said I did business IT in the dot come bubble and people making big money after graduation then I graduated right when it busted 😂. Couldnt find a $10 job in the field. Was college fun? Yes. Did I learn much from the classes? No. I made the mistake of not networking enough and actually thinking about what I was going to do after.
I'm not sure why, but I feel like one of the worst things in life is to depend on your parents too much, even if they are great parents, you realy need to build your personality from your own experiences and remember who you truly are, great video
You need to interview people who are a few years OUT of college. When you're in college you are naive and you think you're doing the right thing, but those who regret it, like you, realize it afterward when they look back on their college years.
Graduated from UCLA back in 2018 and watching this was very nostalgic. I agree with a lot of your points and I as well have regrets in regard to how I went about certain things at the time. A lot of growth was done throughout those years and this university will always have a special place in my heart.
Godspeed Liz, 19. Keep that enthusiasm and never give up on those goals.
I learned more about life experience, grit, and being a man and things that matters through hard-work, traveling, and pursuing personal goals than all four years of school combined.
I realize my interests have changed after college. College is a way to network and figure out your career path. It depends what you want to do. If you are lost than I would go to college. It bought me more time and still haven’t totally figure out everything lol. I have much interests. I recommend if you get scholarships and such go to college otherwise for work and internships experience is key. It’s important to know college is one of the best times to explore who you are. It’s not for everyone. Tbh as well a degree is valuable but you can be successful without it and sometimes I realize I didn’t maybe needed all these classes for a career but at least I learned a lot. Mainly college was for networking and such for me. Study abroad was also fun too
2:27 graduated from UCLA with a degree in Poli Sci too, and I didn't go to law school. It was an incredible, transformative experience, but now--owning my own small business--I can't say it was worth the cost and time.
Same, from UCSD. Didn't go to law school because at the end of the day I hated the actual "school" part. I hated being judged off of homework and not course knowledge.
I’m transferring to ucla to do Poli sci, do you have any tips or ideas on careers outside of laws with Poli Sci?
@@braeden8506 ya, change your degree.
@@braeden8506 Paralegals or legal assistants can make decent money with a poli sci degree and a certification.
So you essentially wasted your time getting the degree besides gaining valuable experiences? Small business ownership has no correlation to Poli Sci. Very few who major in Poli Sci doing what they love
It seems like you learned a lot yourself filming this video! I whole heartily believe that everything happens for a reason and we have to make the best of it! You’re killing it! Hopefully that gave you some closure.
Whole heartedly
My language teacher said this in my junior year of high school, "Anybody know who the biggest thieves are in California?" and we all started shouting out corporations and politicians. Then he said "You're all wrong, it's the UC system. Didn't think that did you?."
Damn.
real
UC system???
I’m in Texas and all my language teachers were libtards, where were you?
@@bonfist7277 well it’s California, what do you think?
The American college system is crazy. I am from Ireland and I have graduated with 0 debt. College costs around 3k per year here but I qualified for the means tested grant, so all of my college fees were paid and I received around €300 a month from the government to help with my living expenses.
After graduating I got a relatively high paying job as a software engineer and more than paid back my college fees after a few years In taxes, so seems like a win-win to me!
Yes, American college system is crazy.
You should also factor in Irelands population compared to ours before you judge.
I think it definitely depends on the situation. I just graduated in-state from UCLA engineering this year. I come from a low income family, so financial aid (from CA gov, federal gov, and UCLA) fully paid for my tuition (about $13k per year) as well as provide an additional $15k per year for rent and food. I actually pocketed around 5k every year. Students also qualify for food stamps ($300 per month) and free Covered CA health insurance. My situation may not be the same as others, but with good financial planning, going to a public uni in CA can be quite affordable.
@@eligreg99 And you may want to check your attitude if you want to remain open-minded for methods that could be integrated into our system to potentially ameliorate it, in lieu of parading around like an ignorant jobbernowl that does nothing to try and better things you've inherited.
Our country got to its status as it did because of great people that rose above the station they were born to in life and gave back to their country many times more.
You don't get to that status with a closed mindset.
@@12801270able “You may want to check your attitude” For having my own opinion? You lost me immediately. Not even going to bother to read the rest. 😂
i was forced to go to college by my parents and i couldn’t pull through and finally dropped out and currently i’m just working and getting paid. it was the best decision ever and i’m so happy now. it made me depressed not being able to work and get money and having to attend class and have a bunch of work to do in/out of class. once i get off from work, i can just rest and relax and i’m getting paid from it. i know so many people who graduated and have hella debt and is working a minimum wage job…
Working min wage with a college degree is a waste of time.
Working min wage with a college degree is a waste of time.
What's your income now
Sorry but that’s never worth it. Putting in a little effort and research into college is always so much more worth it than kicking up your feet and working a dead end job.
@@GOHST13ly
A little effort and research? Bruh. College doesn’t pay the bills, and it’s time consuming. Who works for no pay?
I hate to say it but at 2:13 that girl perfectly exemplifies why so many people mess up college. We are too young, too naive, and we don't have a concrete reason to why we are there in the first place. Most likely because familial pressures and it's the most natural next step after high school. It would make more sense if we got some life experience first, know ourselves, our interests, and at least have a foundation of what we want to do in life before investing time and money into a degree. On the flipside UCLA is hard to get into so for her she probably didn't even think about why she wanted to go there but just knows that it sounds great when you say you go to UCLA.
I graduated with a bachelor's in Computer Science. Knowing now, i would've done only college. Recommend doing college first and then you can transfer to a university to finish the rest. Financial aid covered everything and I graduated with no debt. Avoid taking out any loans. Get a part time job and apply for scholarships to cover your living expenses.
I applied for financial aid and never got anything, but I'm glad some of us make it.
In the US, college and university are the same.
Okay… you graduated with no debt. Of course it’s worth it. For me, I’ve been working for two years saving up money to go to college. Not worth it.
College is a scam for me. I can see most of the students have talked about building networks, friendships and overall, they mentioned about having experiences in college. But how long does these friendships last? For experiences, I would rather do volunteer work in hospitals, orphanages, religious organizations etc or at least engage in any type of social activities.
Nowadays, even nursing program is offered online. This saves a crazy amount of money and time which is why I choose the non-traditional route.
But yeah! It depends from person to person. The ultimate goal is to make decisions wisely and live peacefully. It’s ok to take the less popular road.
Which schools can you get your rn degree
The price alone makes it a scam, but building networks and maintaining friendships is entirely your job- not the school's. Two years out of college my friends and I have jobs in our fields and we live together/work together, some at the same companies because we extended job opportunities to each other. You won't always find great people to stick with long term, but most times people don't even try to begin with.
@@kirani111 Yes, exactly. Happy to learn about your long term friendship. I can see you’re one of a wiser and smart person.
Plot twist: Maybe the whole point of college *IS* to realize that its pointless.
You then understand that ONLY YOU can make your own life. Not some piece of paper or some frat connections or whatever. And paying back the ridiculous debt teaches you money management.
Hey , just thinking positively
Haha just one expensive long lesson
getting your tuition paid
That is such a naive thing to say. College is what you make of it. It is an investment in yourself. Saying it is “pointless” shows your lack of knowledge and ignorance.
Maybe the real college was the friends we made along the way.
@@GOHST13ly very well said. Also, here’s a big idea, maybe find a school that fits your price bracket slightly better? These designer colleges charge so much because they can, just like the new iPhone costs what it does because it can cost that much.
I started college in the fall of 1993 it cost $7800 a year. That was in line with the wages of the day. These colleges are out of control with price. Stay strong young people it’s worth it just needs regulated!
This is all a matter of perspective and circumstance. In some ways it is a scam, some ways its not. You can cherrypick examples of how it helps or harms a person in the long run. Your final thoughts were spot on, well said.
Your video brings back lots of memories, my friend. I was also shy during my college years, and didn't go to office hours and get to know my professors. Big mistake. But I believe college is for finding out what you are not good at, as well as what you are good at. And I also felt bad about my parents having to pay for my tuition and housing while I was trying to hurry up and graduate in time. It was, overall, not worth the time. But, hey, I do have my degree...
Hey Mate We had the exact same experiences
Was it worth it?
It's insane how pursuing a better education is treated like a punishment or a survival test. 🤔
College is definitely good for certain things, especially if you can afford it. A degree is also an achievement that you take with you your entire life. Regardless of whether it’s right or not it is a status symbol. It also develops critical thinking regardless of what you study.
There are also plenty of careers that you simply can’t pursue without a college degree.
Life is also not just about money, it’s about experiences and relationships, money is just a means to an end. There aren’t many other places outside of college where you get to spend your days and nights with people in your age range and similar intelligence level. It’s a great place to get a lot of immaturity “out of your system”, you can get away with a lot of experimentation and after college just write it off as a different phase of your life and then move on and hopefully not be hit too hard with a mid-life crisis because you didn’t have fun in your youth to realize fun isn’t all that.
That’s also true but in all reality who gives a crap. I don’t really care if I need social approval from people just from a degree but I can show what I’m passionate about and strive more from just being yourself.
@@scro0213 of course. I was more emphasizing the experience aspect of college though which is not so much about social approval. It does sound like you’re still aiming for social approval though just through your passion instead, which is fine. To some degree the desire for social approval is inescapable, if you absolutely don’t care, you’re just a crazy person farting loudly in public. To some extent, you have to care.
@@bigheadrhino To care is a human instinct though, everyone will always seek social approval because we are hardwired to but for me I don’t focus too much on that, I focus on my goals and to be better individually and caring about what others has to say to me can’t decide what I should do with my life, I’m literally typing with zero sleep right now so sorry if my point doesn’t get across. And college can be beneficial you just gotta play the right cards in your hands.
@@scro0213 yes I agree. What others say can be used to inform your own decision making though. There’s value in benefiting from the experiences of others, we can only experience so much ourselves.
It’s just a piece of paper with your name on it and an enormous debt to your name. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I am glad I am going to community college. I get to focus on what I want in life, don't get invited to intoxicating parties and save money. Now I vlog art galleries and do other creative stuff like painting and music.
How do you get over the fear of missing out? Currently on my first semester at cc and I feel really left out seeing my friends at their universities living the “college life.”
@@min3018 By finding a purpose and focusing on yourself
@@KentoSky I definitely do have a purpose cuz I chose that over UC Davis and UC Santa Cruz. I want to do nursing. But man I still feel left out.
@@min3018 Go out and find communities
It depends. Whenever you drive on a nice road, ride up and elevator or visit your doctor for an appointment remember that all those items were the result of someone going to college/uni.
For the vast majority who went to school for a sub par degree, yea it was a scam
Mfs will major in Art History then graduate and find no jobs and say college was a scam LMAO can’t make this shit up
It's a scam that's why they enroll woman and blacks and turn away qualified white men and Asians. That is a scam to make money off diversity and people that cannot pass classes
I never met a single person In college that had a lick of common sense, I was actually shocked.
Thank you for the perspective of college. College is not for everyone especially with so many resource out their that you can learn & invest in. It all depends if the person’s career goals and path. If you wanna be an entrepreneur the pathway wouldn’t be college, but if you want to be a surgeon or doctor college is a must. It all depends on the individual’s career paths.
Double Engineering major here. One from CSULA (CE) and other from UCLA (ME). Is college worth it? Yes, if you pick the right major. Do you have to go to a prestigious university? Absolutely not. Now that I do regret: UCLA was a very expensive choice for my budget. Like many students I felt prestige would guaranteed a good job. Little did I know it would be my love and passion for a the field that would guarantee me my dream job.
Hey Charlie! I am SO glad I found this video! I have related to so much that you've said, I had the opposite kind of support from my parents I had wished my parents pushed me to a higher paying field like nursing or engineering but instead was advised to do what would make me happy, so I chose Marketing (through a series of major changes). And let me tell you it has been ROUGH after college lol I landed a marketing executive role during my senior year but got sick and moved out of state to recover with my parents. From there, worked at a dealership became a lead unrelated to marketing. Now - getting skin back in the game I am currently working at a warehouse with early hours to spend the day working on my business and portfolio TO try and land a marketing role again (has been rough). And on top of all of that most "marketing" jobs are really just sales jobs which can be achieved without a marketing degree. So in the field of business I think the only degree worth your while is Accounting or Logistics.. honestly even Graphic Design. Other degree's I think are worth your while is Law, Pre-Med, Engineering and Comp Sci. I also had my school paid for by my dad's gi bill so I WISH I had chose better with my degree tbh. I initially was eager to be a dental hygenist but my awful counselor at the time DISCOURAGED ME. Many misery years later. Here I am. Working at a warehouse. I know I can't blame anyone but myself, but.... I just wish I had the insight I do now. And one of the hardest learning lessons is to bELIVE in YOURSELF (I already struggle with self confidence) I wish I didn't let the fear of not having grades high enough to enter the dental hygene program discourage me. We all live and learn. I hope this helps someone.
0:44 same here Charlie. I went to UC Santa Cruz class of 2007. Majored in Biology and was never able to get a job related to my degree. I realize passing the exams and writing the 20 page papers didn’t teach me any job skills. I can’t believe I experienced so much discrimination. I thought life was based on good grades and good schools = merit… it is not!
Education has been turned into a financial industry in the 1960s. One needs to really plan where and how to spend money on an education. It is a backwards system unfortunately compared to many parts of Europe
Unfortunately Europe is going dow that path as well.
You are spot on 💯 percent!.
one might feel like they have been scammed but even a horrible experience = valuable experience.
Really so straight white males and Asians are not being looked at for the benefit of woman and blacks is not a scam? They do that for government handouts for diversity. That is what a scam is
Not knowing how to pursue college/uni "right" might heavily depend on if you're a first gen to go. It might be best to do a CC first (money saver, too) then find a uni that's a best fit. It's also really helpful to find a mentor of some kind to reference because you might be going on your assumptions on everything. Lastly, even if college/uni didn't go as you might have thought, the critical thinking skills a person learns is more helpful than you know. You might not apply Econ or Poly Sci in your everyday life but your thinking abilities thank you!
Agreed!!!
Felt that, as an undecisive biology major at UCLA.. graduated early and decided I didn't want to go into healthcare. Now starting my second degree in CS :) it's never too late, but also it made me realize that I should've thought more closely about my major. I was too naive at the time
It depends on if your parents are professionals already or not. If not, then you have no circle to support you without it. Minorities should go for the access stamp.
I see your true passion is what you called your side hustle its in the art of video and photography I hope ur channel gets even bigger.
I think the best thing to do for people who can afford college or aren't sure about it is to do two years in a community college(which I'm pretty sure is very affordable or even free depending on the state) and then transferring to their state uni to finish off their degree. Also I've heard from some of my parents friends that some jobs are willing to pay for masters and doctorate degrees? But I never looked into that so idk.
I wish everyone did this, but people are so sold on the clout of big names and the "college experience".
I got my AA in my early 20s, started my own business for a few years, but realized I wanted something more stable. However, couldn't find a decent paying job with just an AA degree, and it seemed like my business didn't translate well on a resume. So I went back to school for a business bachelor's degree, got that degree paid by Starbucks through their tuition program, and now I have a great paying job with a great company. I don't personally think that my time with school was worth more than 'real life education', but it seemed necessary to just get through the resume filter process...
I assume you graduated from ASU online? because they're partnered with Starbucks to pay students tuition?
@@tropicalbeach9225 yup!
My friend's sister went to UCLA. The thing about it is, the first time she stepped onto campus, she had this grand, excited feeling of "Oh my god I'm actually here." But that feeling only lasts so long, as four years go by, that feeling quickly fades, she said she began to see how boring and unnecessary it all was, then got hit by debt after
The only thing fun about it is the college parties.
It depends on what you're planning to do in the future. Obviously, you have to go to study science, be a doctor, pharmacist or nurse. My experience has helped me push me out of my comfort zone intellectually. I learned to do proper research like looking for scientific articles and journals. The downside of college is that it can be too expensive.
As a 24 year old I had my college completely paid off after joining the Army National Guard and using their tuition benefits (STA and GI Bill), working a full time job in construction, and maintaining post high school scholarships. Know your options, have a plan and most importantly work hard!
Currently in college myself, transferred from community school into a very competitive university after getting my AA. Before being where I am now, I dropped out after my first year at a university with 8k in debt, was able to pay off the 4k of that debt, work, and enjoy two years before deciding to go back for a STEM degree. I believe within those two years I found what I wanted to do for at least the next 15 years and that required a degree. College is better utilized by mature people with set goals, exploratory college can pay off but is very risky.
With that being said, I think college is great! Just like others, I do not think it is meant for everyone. I believe college should no longer be the primary sales point for 17 - 19 year old young adults coming straight out of high school. Although, I do believe it should still be the foundation. Atleast when I was in highschool (2017 graduate), they were doing much better with giving other options like trade school, apprenticeships, internships and more.
These fresh high school graduates should be given a buffer year coming into the real world to truly make a plan before just deep diving into college or the real world. Grown adults, 24+, can benefit from college much more than someone so young and immature, granted I am 23.
It should be the rule.
With the exception that there are young adults mature enough to make the most of college and really grasp something out of it.
I would say College/University is worth it but make sure the degree will lead to work opportunities. I worked hard to get good grades and worked closely with art teachers to build a solid portfolio. I got a full ride with government aid so I graduated from college debt free this year, bachelor's degree. I do 3D animation, and I'm already working on projects and being paid, working remotely at home. In my free time I'm learning to code on the side since I enjoy working on my computer. My biggest advice is to do as many internships as possible to fill up the resume, it is considered work experience. I did lots of internships throughout my college years and I believe it has helped me land this opportunity. I plan on having multiple career paths in life as well, it's okay to have multiple interests. I love working in 3D modeling/animation for creative aspects but I am tackling coding to learn the tech aspect and teach myself how to solve problems. If you are pursing a degree for a career, make sure to get the most out of the degree after college.
omg thats amazing! i want to do something very similar! I have been trying to find a program that combines a technical foundation with art. so like doing CGI art, virtual reality, 3D modeling, etc. i finally found the college that has what i want and im planning to transfer to it (i go to a local uni right now, for free) and i just have a very strong feeling that this is what i want to do. ive been interested in digital arts and graphics my whole life, i have an extensive and (not to sound conceited) but strong portfolio from all the years of doing art because i truly love creative projects. i am going into some debt for the school but i'm hoping to get as much work experience as possible to get a job and manage it. if you have any advice please let me know!
edit: would also like to mention that the degree is technically listed as a computer science degree which is high in demand right now. so even if i cant work an art job straight out of uni i can rely on tech experience.
@@Snowflake28936AJ Congrats! Honestly my biggest advice when you're in college is to do lots of internships, it is considered work experience. I did lots of internships for college credits, I list them on my resume. Make sure to build your demo reel and a strong portfolio as well. Having a strong demonstration of your skills in demo reels is important. Put in your personal projects if it showcase something you're challenging yourself, for example strong acting or facial expressions. Most of all, build connections and networks, it does increase the chance of landing a job. Communicate with professors or advisors about what kind of jobs you want to do so they can help you with recommendations or references for future jobs. In internships, when you work with someone, they can become your reference. If you don't understand something, don't be afraid to ask questions since internships and college is about learning the skills you will use for your future jobs.
That's awesome you're pursuing a computer science degree, that's a great degree since it's in high demand. I would say you're on the right path, keep it up and get the degree 👍
My one regret is not having taken an internship while I was a student. Also, I feel that I’ve learned more just doing my own research for free on the internet on legit research sites than I actually learned in college courses.
Google isn't legit.
@@joevarga5982 More than just Google on the internet and Google is just as accurate as college courses
@@sweetcheeks5775 "More than just Google on the internet..."
True, and for the truth about a lot of things it's important to use other search engines because Google has a very strong liberal bias. They hide a lot of things.
"...and Google is just as accurate as college courses"
Considering that most colleges are also hard left, this is also true. My POINT is that one needs to be aware of what certain search engines are doing to skew search results and misinform.
I’m talking about core subjects like math, chemistry, biology, anatomy, etc. Not the influence of Lesbian trans binary radicalism on the sociopolitical landscape 101. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.😃
@@danityvanityinsanity LOL true true. the internet can definitely be useful for STEM because its just one correct answer, its not opinionated between different ideologies and groups of people, no. one answer. period.
what I learned from my family members is that colleges are all the same unless you go to an ivy league college where you can gain connections it's useless. The main reason jobs would even care if you got into a major ivy league college is because it's hard to get into. Going to college proves that you can follow directions. Nowadays you can learn anything online and for everything else you can get certifications.
College in America is a scam! I am currently trying to become a doctor yet they are making me take history, art, music... all irrelevant to the field
They are irrelevant but if you think of it from a common sense pov it is not so bad to have a general understanding of the world. Better to have basic understanding and education that to be proudly ignorant spewing misinformation. Something that is very common.
@@carlosspicywiener9267 The problem is we pay for our education and to get the degree we want within a reasonable time frame. Imagine you cut your finger and someone saying, well yes we can get you some first aid, but first we’re gonna make you pay 20 bucks to jump through hurdles ultimately slowing your ability to accomplish what you want to accomplish and costing more. Becoming well rounded should happen in highschool and stop at college. Unless you actively seek out that choice.
Unfortunately, you gotta learn the some of these subjects or have really good reading comprehension if you wanna do well in the CARS section of the MCAT.
@@carlosspicywiener9267 yes its better to waste money on classes we dont want or need to take. So that we get in even more debt when we should really jus be focused on classes that will help us in our job. Plus we are in colleges, you probably already have a good understanding of that kinda stuff. And if you do not its because you werent paying attention and you likely wont pay any more attention in a college class unrelated to your major. The guy was right about it being a scam because they force you to spend your money on classes that will not help you at all. You should be able to choose your classes and if those unrelated classes are required then they should be required but free
That is going to ring up a few grands in ur bill so that the dean can enjoy his lavish lifestyle and hire more admin
In my opinion, going to college isn't a choice for many. Many think they have to go because it's what they're supposed to do and that's how people have a hard time figuring out what they want to do. You never hear someone telling you that they want to go to do college to do x y z and if they do, it's rare. It's literally a cycle that repeats itself because parents tell you that you need college and there's nothing else but college.
"Go to college, get your degree, and you have a good future." That's the typical saying.
Being reserved and an introvert, I regret college. I wish I gained more life experiences rather than having the dread feeling of going to college every day.
The fact that it has not worked out for you, it doesn't mean it won't be in the future. Life is unpredictable!
I regret going to college too... I went to a private art school called Ringling and they totally scammed me knowing I was going in on the loan by myself and took advantage of my youth and ignorance and put my loan with private lenders rather than federal loans. Luckily reality snapped into me after I met a group of graduates that was homeless and jobless. I left before the second year started. Now that I am older and have tried to get the college loan relief from Biden... I found out I dont qualify and that journey helped me realize in my research that the school didnt even apply any of the grants that I had qualified for. My husband is a college graduate and I now make more than him. Sighs. Totally a scam. All jobs want experience... by the time you are ready to get into the workforce (for most degrees) the industry has changed and what you learned is irrelevant compared to someone with industry experience.
yeah private art schools in the US are a total scam.50k tuition for a year is insane! Especially since you really don’t need a degree to be a working artist.
It honestly depends on where you want to go what career you want. Law, medicine, politics, history, in depth sciences. Those kind of careers you need a degree.
College kids always say they’re broke and don’t eat or have $50 to their name yet they are at the bars on weekends and have all the latest apple products. I really don’t get it.
When I was in college, everybody seemed to have money for whatever they wanted.
Credit. Cards.
@@knowcomment96 And rich parents...
They're talking tripe for the camera. I'm a college student and ain't nobody skipping meals
Wow Charlie! I've been watching you for months and realized today that you took my grad pics in 2015!! I wound up going to med school and I have some complicated feelings about UCLA as well. Was definitely a privilege to go, but didn't feel very supported which made things hard. Also.. think you were talking about Dykstra, not De Neve (as someone who also lived there pre-renovation 😅)
Those that said "I don't know what I'm going to do after college with my degree" I know they're lost. Those are the ones that scream "college is a waste of time" all because they're all lost
Indeed
college is a waste of time unless u r trying to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer but other than that there's no reason to go to college meeting new people n getting connections can be good but u can do all that without college
Yes you are right but you are also intentionally neglected that the only path in life that is pushed on people is college. We give no other opportunities where people cannot only succeed but also have the necessities to live such as shelter and clean water. It’s not their fault they are lost it’s the system trying to mold everyone into the same life.
trades/vocational are stigmatize which are high demand. they need to research for more alternative career pathway.
Mad respect for you! I watched your video on USC (dad and bro went there) that you’re a Bruin, (your Mom is a Trojan) 😊
And that you give the Trojan sign ✌️
My one tip for college is make the most of it! Everyone wants to just rush through college, take the classes you need to get ur degree, and graduate and get a job. I’ve been taking a lil extra time with it because I weirdly enjoy taking different electives and expanding my knowledge on different topics. I’ve taken multiple sociology classes, art classes, economics, engineering, interpersonal growth, relationship, public health, public speaking, politics/government, marketing/business, and more electives. There’s so much access to info on niche topics, resources, connections. And once you’ve graduated, there’s not much access or motivation to learn new and important topics. I think if you’re able to take the time and money to do it, take some extra classes on topics you’re interested in!
I like your attitude. It's about the journey, not the destination. I enjoy learning in general so I'm using the energy I would have used learning something else and putting it towards a degree.
College was great for me. My degrees helped me get jobs and get scholarships for graduate school. I learn a great deal about computers, people, organizations, and life in general. Now, I teach college students with an emphasis on preparing them for life after college. My students get jobs that help people. I also teach public policy and personal finance, another course that students use after graduation. Do college right!
The idea of signing off my life to a corporation or company never sat well with me so I'm pursuing the entrepreneurial route, I rather have my own business then help expand someone elses.
College is not a scam, I feel like a lot of students are pressured into certain schools/certain majors by their parents and some don't do their research at all. One could do a community college for a couple years and then transfer, but some feel like that is beneath them and instead they choose to go to certain schools with no financial aid/scholarships and then graduate with a Bachelors they don't care about and debt.
My best friend graduated from university of Hawaii with her masters in health administration. She has a great paying job except her paychecks go straight to her debts in student loans. But she made a great group of friends in the university.
Ayy I graduated from Hawaii too but with an undergrad degree. Tbh I would mainly go college for scholarships and financial aid covering most of my school. Luckily I have less than 9k in debt only because I got screwed over of financial aid
Same here, just left my Dental Hygiene program. Notice right away that it was not for me, it wasn’t something that I wasn’t passionate nor I had the drive for; compare to my classmates.
Get a degree that will let you get a high-paying job. Taking on $150,000 in debt to get a degree in history is dumb. Don’t get a degree in Greek poetry for $125,000! Unless you plan on getting a PhD don’t even bother with the humanities section.
Why did you choose that major tho? And what kind of classes did you have to take? Just kind of curious because this is the first time I've heard about this major.
So did you end up using your degree in Greek poetry or no? That's what people wanna know. You basically told everyone you have $125,000 in debt that will take you 30+ years to pay off; therefore, college sold you your degree. You invested $125,000 for x amount of years to make how much annually?
Wtf were you thinking tho? Like lol
@@eligreg99 lmao he didn’t respond so you know it wasn’t worth it. Now dude is stuck in debt 🤣
@@ArtisticYogurtz I mean I don’t mean to be rude because I also have 25k in student debt but I majored in psych and work in my field. I didn’t even know you could major in something like Greek poetry 😂
Went to business school back in 2016. Regret not going to the recruiting events as I exited college without a job. Big take here is you are paying for your school, make sure you pay your future self by doing what’s necessary to land a job.
I’ve graduated and became a scientist. However, now I’m working towards being an entrepreneur. Corporate America sucks.
What even is a scientist? Like what do you actually work on as a scientist that actually needs to be worked on?
The baking soda volcano has already been invented what else can science bring us at this point?
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit lmao I ask the same thing
@@antares3518 I’m not kidding I don’t understand how certain prosessions even exist after certain points
Like why the fuck do we need astronauts it’s a waste of money and I have a cousin who works at NASA
I’m a college student and I’m writing an essay about college. I’m using this video for an example. Thank you🙏🏽
I went to the University of Southern California and it was extremely worth it for me. I'd say if they didn't accept me, I wouldn't be able to do what I do today due to the practicality and credibility that's associated with USC.
I think this really depends how practical and industry-relevant your professors/peers are. If all your professor is a relevant figure in the field and all your friends have parents who are relevant figures, you're probably going to learn 100x more than if you went to a school where everyone is just a career professor/student. Influences matter a lot -- you've got to be surrounded by talented peers with successful backgrounds to become successful yourself due to mindset, work standards, and connections.
Private schools have the luxury of a smaller student base to work with. At UCs, there are simply too many people to create this environment. For this reason, every UC is going to feel like a scam for those who don't push themselves to take advantage of their schooling environment. We're going to start seeing this even with historically "safe ROI" majors such as computer science even at top UCs like Berkeley. Every year, they push out ~3,600 students in their undergrad/grad program. Tech is no longer a new industry that requires thousands of seats filled locally at FAANG -- graduation will not mean a guaranteed cushy job anymore. You already see FAANG now opting to hire out of Stanford for the better plug & play success factor due to the aforementioned "success mindset" education during their school years.
I will say this though: I don't think UCLA in particular is too much of a scam. It's a pretty hard school to get into, especially in 2022. If you've gotten in, you and your peers clearly have the capacity to do great things. A lot of employers (and employees, if you run your own business) will see your UCLA degree and associate a level of competence to your name.
A large part of first world countries won't even give you a chance unless you have a decent degree. You might've benefited from the UCLA degree without even knowing it. It's one of those things where you don't appreciate it until you don't have it.
As for many other schools throughout this nation with high acceptance rates, high tuitions, and no prominent alumni to speak of... they're quite obviously made for-profit and should be shut down for the sake of our country's future.
@Xander Hegle It's Southern California, not South Carolina
University of South Carolina is a pretty good school I've heard. Congrats
I mean idk I went to UC Irvine which is still considered to be a good school and I never once felt like any job cared about the school I went to or even my degree in general tbh
I regret going to University. (& yes I did study hard, I did not party all the time).
Same!! I become so depressed and hated it so much I did go out once in awhile with friends but I would just go to class my room and work
What did you major in and what's your income now
I’m two years deep and it’s definitely not fun. Now granite, I could go to parties but studies alone take up so much of my time I just want to go home at the end of the day and not spend another minute At that campus
The scam is people choosing degrees that don’t help them in their future. Pick a degree that helps you get a job and provide for yourself and family. Not one that is fun or interesting, that’s a recipe for not being able to pay off your debt later. Work is called work for a reason the weekend is for fun.
I'm currently going into my senior year at UC Irvine. Because of the pandemic (and probably me) I had a HORRIBLE college experience. Fall quarter was in person, Winter became half online, then Spring became this really weird quarter where I lost all my friends and had to seek therapy. I'm currently debating if I should attend the involvement fair this Fall and join clubs. If I stay antisocial and maintain that "graduate and dip" mindset, I feel like I'll regret it forever. Charlie, please give me some motivation!
I graduated from UC Irvine in 2018 and I HIGHLY recommend getting involved and joining clubs/ orgs. UCI is notorious for being a college that’s not very social and hard to make friends at. I made the majority of my friends through a club I joined. I’m sure it must have sucked to experience covid during school like that, but I would still highly recommend getting involved. It’s really the only way people make friends at that school.
Government needs to get out of the student loan business, if not the colleges will continually base their business practices based on what is essentially guaranteed money
People just wanna keep themselves busy, but not deeply think
Most of those people you interview feel the same way you do. They just aren't going to say it.
This was really informative and so eye opening to hear from your perspective. Thank you for this!
As an international student, the time I spent doing a certificate program at UCLA was the best time of my life. It was Marketing. But I definitely think I've thrown tons of time n money on stuff I could have learned myself :/
College was not a waste for me. I’m a mechanical engineer though, and if anything, I want to take a lot more university.
Nice video Charlie! I still think college is the biggest scam ever 😂 it’s a great environment to network and develop yourself but not for the price. The experience doesn’t make up for the debt students have after in combination with the level of employment close to minimum wage jobs grads tend to get
There are always financial aid, grants, and scholarships available. You just have to put in the effort to research and look.
And people with college degrees on average make 3x more than people with no degree and have more opportunities available to them. But sure “minimum wage” lol
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But they still have debt though. For making 3x more I sure here tons of complaints.
Also, financial aid meant I couldn’t work because I would be outside of the bracket for making anything. So screw financial aid for incentivizing me not to work.
Scholarships shouldn’t be the solution, I spent so many hours applying to scholarships, sleepless nights writing before deadlines while in college, and you know what I got? Jack shit. Except every company has my information. I wrote essays mostly, so many pages and for what? So sure, if you want to waste your precious life gambling your time away, by all means, scholarships.
Great video. Much better than other college videos. Keep up the good work!
I felt mildly depressed in college, I was trying to figure out why am I even here. Then I would tell myself, well you have to get a degree so you can get a good job, etc. I graduated with a lot of debt then struggled to even get a job. The first job I got was doing temp work, which turned into a permanent job. My boss didn't know for the longest if I had a degree and probably didn't care if I did. I was told they can train people to do the work. So I felt I wasted time going to college, I could have just graduated from high school and got a job in banking and work my way up. I know people who did just that. It depends on what kind of work you are trying to do. I didn't care for college, I forced my way through it. I'm not interested in going back to get my MBA. My first thought is how much money will it cost me? It's not worth the debt. I don't think it will greatly increase my income and opportunities. But having a MBA looks good on the resume lol. At the end of the day, it's all about who you know, not what you know.
"I really worked my ass off so I don't want to go to a CC" damn i felt that one
I only have my first degree and all my friends have a BA or BS. We’re all literally in the same place. The only difference is that the real world forces you to grow up quickly while college stunts your emotional growth.. and then you get out like “omg.. I have bills to pay and loans” … you honestly don’t gather real responsibility until 26 years old.. idk which is better lol. Being a kid longer does sound like the better end of the stick.. parties.. random sex…loans.. it’s all the same shit.. except I am debt free
Exactly why good colleges don't just accept anyone. They want people who actually want to be there and know why they are there. Similar to how some people just go to college for a piece of paper, some colleges just enroll whoever that pay.
When I was in college I would have said it is worth it. It was only when I got out of college did I realize how little it matters. The only exception is if you go into a field that requires a specific degree (doctor for example).
What did you major in?
These days, it is either STEM or stay home. Otherwise, learn a trade like HVAC, Plumbing, Electrician, or CDL (Until that becomes automated)
It’s not a really a scam you just really need to know what your doing before, during, and after school. Once is over either going to suffer with a dead end job or powerful person with enjoy with or without a degree.
Having been educated for free abroad, I don't believe college is a scam, I do believe however that college is a scam in the US considering a considerable amount of countries in the developed world offer their citizens a free education up to college, and a handful to foreigners.
Yeah, too many greedy people there
Whats even worse is the high costs of universities is the cause of the government giving out loans like candy