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I like Gen 2, but it's more for the designs of the Pokemon it introduced and the aesthetic of the games. I love those old sprites with their limited color palettes. Sometimes I wish the games still looked like that.
Tyranitar is one of my favorite pokemon. It starts nice but the physical/special split in G4 makes him shine. Like Feraligatr. The pacing of this gen is really messy. The levels in Johto...
yeah i despise people who write off newer pokemon as being "stupid design" since some of the most recent gens have brought some of the coolest looking mon... but overall, gen 2 i think had the coolest pokemon. the dogs, lugia, amazing starters, and common favorites like ampharos, sneasel, and blissey; there really hasnt been a generation since gen 2 that made me love nearly every new pokemon dearly
Why do I like Gen 2? Yeah, it is the nostalgia. I grew up with Gen 1 and was just blown away by the improvements. When you compare both, you can just see the leaps in quality while still being able to be played on the original gameboy. Gen 2 improved vastly on the quality of the sprites and animations. You actually added on to the original story line and were able to visit all of Kanto in the post game. Mechanically it introduced the dark & steel types, held items, friendship evolutions, specialized pokeballs, day & night cycles and breeding. It also expanded the move pools of many pokemon to be not as miserable as Gen 1. All in all, Gen 2 did a lot right with the franchise. It's true the generations coming after it fixed, expanded and improved even more, but Gen 2 was the first thing that took the accidental success that was Gen 1 pokemon and elevated it to the next level. Paving the way for (and earning Gamefreak the fans' trust to deliver) many more great generations. The horrible level progression is a legitimate complaint though. As is the lack of Gen 2 Pokemon availability for both yourself and main boss fights. So should you still play it now? If you also have a sense of nostalgia for it, yes. If you're new to it, I'd say play the Heart Gold/Soul Silver remakes from Gen 4. You'll get the same story but with the introduction of abilities and the physical/special split along with a plethora of graphical and quality of life improvements. Just like I'd recommend playing Fire Red/Leaf Green instead of the original Gen 1 games.
No that’s super valid. I feel the same way about Black and White which were my second Pokémon games after Pearl. I’m not a huge fan of Gen 2, but I did want to comment here because I think you have really good points and acknowledge the shortcomings it has while still explaining the issues you have.
I love Gen 2 and Gen 5 pretty much equally, nostalgia is a part of it, but there is the fact that Johto and Unova just have so much content, a lot of my favorite pokemon, great music and ambience and some of my favorite fights. As rivals go, Silver and Hugh are perhaps the best written ones too.
I, too, love the Pokemon designs of Gens 2 and 5 the most and am a fan of Hugh (even though it seems like Hugh fans are rare), but I'll admit I don't like the Gen 5 games all that much. As for Gen 2, while not my favorite because the level progression is indeed bad, the region itself is fun to explore, offering a wide variety of optional areas and unique biomes. Unova feels so empty, I think the story structure of Black and White 1 does a lot to temper all the flat, linear routes in the game.
@@cultreader9751Hugh is the most chad rival of any pokemon game, he chased a terrorist organization that wanted to freeze the whole region, but not because he wanted to save the world, it was just because they stoled his little sister’s cat.
You actually can get a Leaf Stone before Kanto. Picknicker Gina can give them for you when getting her number. There's a fun little manipulation you can do (similar to what you did for the infinite Return TMs). So, you can get 3 Leaf Stones before Whitney. The same can be done for Fire Stones with that trainer with the Tangela, next to the Sudowoodo.
Crystal's Houndoom sprite is still the best one. Breeding and held items introduced. Dark and Steel types introduced. Crobat redeeming the zubat line. Kingdra and Misdreavus adding to Ghost and Dragon types. Shinies and Pokérus. Getting to play in Kanto again, AND fighting Red. I don't know any other gen that has a prior-gen callback like that. Time of day and day of week changing the content. Janine being Koga's daughter, Falkner being Lance's son, Silver being Giovanni's son, there's lots of little tidbits that link gen 2 to gen 1. Also, Houndoom is just rad AF. 😂
I liked Gen 2 before I started replaying the games via emulation to speed things up. That made the Rocket sections more obviously tedious instead of a change of pace. What I STILL like about Gen 2 are the new mons, much more interesting setting than Kanto, and the presentation. I even like the easy access to Headbutt and elemental punches as a way to improve move diversity in an era where the series is still limited in that regard.
See I love the VIBE of Johto, and I think the locations and characters are interesting, AND my two favorite Pokemon are from Johto! I am, at the end of the day, a Johto stan!! They just.........had so much wasted potential, ESPECIALLY the remakes (does not stop SoulSilver from being one of my favorite games)
Read the TCRF page on Gold and Silver. These folks were making changes to the Pokemon roster in September of '99 and the games released in November '99. I think that's why there aren't too many Johto Pokemon spread around trainer rosters.
34:15 In defense of Lt. Surge, even though there isn’t a major trainer that uses Ampharos, there is someone who is _associated_ with Ampharos, being Jasmine. Of course that doesn’t excuse the double Electrode but maybe it’s just a really elaborate “haha balls” joke
Forretress is really more of a walking makibishi for Koga. It mostly serves to set up hazards, and it wouldn't really be on-theme until Gen 4 with Toxic Spikes.
People didn't hate Gen V when they came out, at least not on Smogon. Obviously Gen V competetive was and is terrible, but people liked the games themselves. People hated Gen IV back in 2007-2010 though. I don't remember how people felt about B2W2, probably because I didn't play those when they came out nor was I all that active in the fandom at that point (I mostly played competetive and this was mid Gen V Weather Wars)
Gen 2 is my favorite because of the graphics style and the music. Gen 2 was such a big step up from Gen 1 and the games ran much smoother, so I always had a positive relationship. I got yellow and crystal at the same time as my first games. Gen 3 was beautiful too, the music was great, but it was a different feeling. Then when gen 4 and gen 5 came out, it felt far too different for me to put them at the top. It literally comes down to the charm/vibe. I was never a gen 5 hater, vanilluxe is fantastic, I just like being in the world in gen 2/3 the most.
Gen 2 is my favourite because it introduced my beloved Dark Type. Umbreon is my Number one favourite Pokemon of all time and he came in Gen 2 also (and actually his sister Espeon is my number 2 so yeah.) Only issue was besides Umbreon (and Sneasel in Crystal) the other Dark Types of Murkrow, Houdour/Houndoom and Tyranitar were all Kanto-Exclusive which was idiotic in the highest degree.
I liked the idea of being able to go back to Kanto in Gen II when it first came out. Eleven-ish year old me didn't care how stripped down it was. Of course now that I'm older, the wonky level scaling and utter lack of Gen II Pokemon on most enemy teams really stands out.
I like the Gen II, but I love their remakes more. Without anachronisms, the addition of new types was pretty cool and new type combinations (Quasire, water/ground, Lanturn, water/electric etc) in Gen II was pretty cool. The gameplay was much better than the previous generation and also the existence of a mythology around the history of the region that the game contains. In Kanto it's pow pow pow earn badges pow pow pow defeat giovanni pow pow pow League pow pow pow take the legendaries, capture mewtwo and that's it.
I started Pokemon with the original gray brick Gameboy with Blue version. Never heard of nuzlockes until a little after Sword and Shield came out, so I'm tempted to do them in the older games. Gen 2 has my favorite starter Typhlosion and I enjoyed the games, I have the same minor gripes, but I still love them
My first normal nuzlocke was with BDSP and that was a wild ride. Ultra Moon is having trouble getting going cause it's definitely as difficult as it looks on YT 😂. Hardcore nuzlocke idk what to start with, was thinking X and Y cause everyone says it's the easiest in the series, but I don't have either and I can't find an emulator that works for it on my PC. The easiest games I have right now is Sword and Shield cause the AI is dumb. I recently did a Eeveelution playthrough on Shield and it was surprisingly easy for me, also kinda helped that I never got a fatal crit on my team 😂. A more normal nuzlocke was more rough
i do like gen 2, but mostly for aesthetic reasons. crystal versions sprites/animation are the best 2D pokemon EVER looked, imo. the pokemon sprites are just so good in general? the limited palettes the hardware necessitates just gives it such a cool aesthetic. also the music SLAPS. theres just something about the sound font they used that gen. johto itself also just feels... Cozy? for some reason? maybe its all the woodlands, maybe the visuals (i love how gen 2 looks, even beyond the pokemons sprites), maybe just nostalgia (gen 1 was my first though). idk. that combined with that music just makes playing the game feel like being wrapped in a warm blanket on a chilly day. its hard to describe. THAT BEING SAID... yeah. i acknowledge that gameplay wise it sucks lmao. the tms are somehow even worse than in gen 1, only being saved by the elemental punches and return. the movesets are god awful, the pacing turns to shit the second you beat morty, and the plot is easily the worst of any mainline game. "look! its team rocket! ...sorta! anyway, lets slap em on the wrist and watch them crumble instantly." and of course, to add insult to injury, they slam 90% of said plot into one tedious section of the game. HGSS are majorly overrated too. i replayed every mainline game in chronological order a few years back and. Man. HGSS was a letdown. the added bells and whistles cant save it. so, in conclusion: gen 2 fucking sucks but im fond of it anyway.
There there and at the ripe age of 8 when it was released. I spent many of hours playing. Crystal is still me fav game followed closely by gen 1. Going I to the games blind, with only knowledge from cards n anime, Made them soo much more interesting
Did no one tell you that there are several trainers that give you evolution stones by calling you if you have their phone numbers? There was a school boy in the route between the bug park and Ecruteak city that will give you leaf stones. Yeah, it's random, but you do have access to all the stones through these people. Each one gives you a specific stone and he gives you leaf stones specifically. It is the boy with the Tangela. All you have to do is add only him and then you will only get calls from him, increasing you chance to get calls from him and leaf stones by connection.
Not me just learning from this that Rock is, in fact, NOT weak to Ice but is instead SUPER-EFFECTIVE AGAINST IT. Like, I get it? But also why does the rock type even exist? The only reason I thought that is because rock is to the ground type what flying is to everything else.
Imo gen 2 is not a difficult game but a good game. The World is believavle and imersive (for the time and the tech) and it satisfied my adventurer spirit when i played it as a kid
My first game was Yellow, but my favorite is Emerald, because the GBA just felt so much smoother and faster than the DS to me. X & Y improved that, but the story & nostalgia were lessened by that point, and Gen 7 dragged on too long
Would it have killed them to try a little harder with the level scaling and introducing more obtainable Gen 2 Pokémon earlier? However I think my biggest pet peeve is the introduction of useless baby Pokémon.
My starting guess for MVP of the run would be Crobat for offense, and Wheezing for Defense. Initial Edit: Oh right I forgot that Gengar and Tentacruel could also fill those slots, so there's potential there as well. Second Edit: Oh right Nidoking gets the Elemental Triad, and so does Gengar, my guess is that Gengar will probably run away with any semblance of difficulty, surpassing even Crobat.
I like gen 2 a lot, but some typings leave a lot of to b desired, for example typhlosion and feraligatr should’ve been dual typed, fire/ground and water/dark yanma should’ve been bug/dragon as it’s a dragonfly
I think original Gen 2 is deifnitely weak. but I tihnk HG/SS are MUCH stronger experiences. They basically patch up the majority of issues original Gen 2 have. More ways to get actual Gen 2 pokemon pre-Kanto, ways to get the evolution stones, plus certain pokemon from Gen 2 just having their Gen 4 evolutions to help their viability. It also helps make the Kanto post-game stronger. It still has some of Gen 2's initial issues of course, Johto is still wonky in some ways despite its charm, but yeah.
tbh if you just give yourself the optimal stats without working for it, it feels like essentially cheating. I can understand doing it on a second or third run but personally i tend to just grind up normally bc it’s a more fair challenge
I think most of the gen 2 gyms should've been redone. Love johto but man there are things that need fixing give Faulkner a hoothoot or bugsy a spinarak or ledyba etc
Gen 2 is my favourite gen for sure. The pokemon sprites for gen2 are so well designed for the limitations of the system, it got me interested in pixel art as a kid, which led to a general interest in art, which is what I do now as an adult for work.
Silver (Gen 2) was my first Pokémon game ever, and I played it on the original Game Boy Color. The fact that Kanto opened up after beating the Champion and you had a showdown with Red were, for me, the coolest things about the game. I replayed it on an emulator not too long ago and MY GOD, I never appreciated the QoL improvements that came with Gen 3 until then. Edit: the tunes for the Champion battle and the Kanto Gym battles in Gen 2 will always bring me joy, some of my all-time favorites
started playing with red blue yellow, and i agree gen 2 is awful for the level curve and tedious mid game, its only saving graces are; its cool that there are 16 gyms (though all the kanto gyms are way too easy) and Red is a cool 'hidden' final fight personally i find gen 6 and 7 my favourite to run nuzlokes on
My guess is early Gastly, Zubat , and Bellspout not bad core not great, since first gym flying I say i believe and you did it in one attempt follow with key player if live long enough Gastly line since versatile learn set in spite Ghost being Physical.
I always liked gen 5 except the new Pokemon I wasn't a fan of there designs but they grew on me very slowly infact I didn't like them until gen 7 hit (I was 11 when gen 5 came out)
I hated gen 5 back in the day. No joke, I was very dissatisfied with my own life at the time lol. I went away for college, which was a huge mistake in hindsight, and was miserable for all of it before dropping out. So I played through Pokemon Black, and then I put in 1,300 hours into Soulsilver 🤷♂️. I swear my life circumstances and Pokemon Black enjoyment were connected haha
Oh if only you played Crystal. You could've found a Picnicker named Gina and she has the ability to give you Leaf Stones if you wait long enough. Oh well.
So I believe another creator by the name of Max Goodwin already did Crystal, hence why I did Gold/Silver. I try my best not to step on other peoples' toes and do the same videos as them, regardless of size.
Is it at all possible to do a mix of this format and your prior format for the RUclips upload? Maybe not in terms of all the numbers in detail, but at the very least with your team members and death count and such. Maybe the team over the Gameboy Color logo and the death count on the power indicator. It really helped engage a viewer with your progress at any given moment.
I do plan on having that information on screen starting in my next streamed monolocke. Had a bit of growing pains getting everything optimized and looking good for stream and I've finally ironed out the kinks. Thanks for watching!
I really like gen 2, but because of the remakes. I mean, they were the first pokémon I've played(original game), but it was so little, that I don't think it changed my opinion. The remakes in other hand, were the peak pokémon form the DS/GBA era, they were so pretty, so fun, so vividy, I love it. BUT THE PACING SUCKS, IT'S HORRIBLE, HORRENDOUS, IT WAS SO BAD THOUGH.
I like gen 2 because of the nostalgia. It's not my favorite, no, that goes to a 3 way tie to Legends Arceus, Scarlet and Violet (yes even despite the bugs), and BW2
I like Gen2 but it isn't my favorite by any means (Ruby/Sapphire, Black/White or Black2/White2). Its a messy game and lots of its nonsense really should have been fixed in HGSS (gym leader teams, low levels, pokemon avaliability) but I like it a hell of a lot more than the also messy Gen 1, the extremeley bland FRLG, the actively terrible Diamond/Pearl (though Platinum is really great), the completely forgetable X/Y, the unfinished feeling Sword/Shield. Janine is weaker then Koga since he's her teacher and master. It's silly from a game design perspective but it makes more sense then you are giving it credit for.
I actually love gen 2. Not as much as Sinnoh or Unova, but I think the thing I love about Johto is that it's simple. The design is really bad level curve and also pokemon placement wise, but the brief stretches of nonlinearity in Johto, followed by the return to Kanto just being a wonderful kind of mess where we get to see the world has evolved and moved on since R/G/B is great. Also the tunes are great and that fight against Red will always be some of the hypest shit in the entirety of Pokemon. Admittedly though it's way, way too easy but that's more of a "God damnit Game Freak it's okay for your post run one of the Elite Four to be hard." kind of gripe. Which ties in to my general gripe of Game Freak not knowing jack shit about making a challenging post game/kinda post game up until like, Platinum and the gen 5 sequels. Kinda FR/LG as well but not enough in my opinion. Oh, also in general if there is one thing I like it's the semi-nonlinearity in Pokemon games. It allows you to have some truly interesting adventures in regions. Sure it might make Professor Oak Challenges a pain, but being able to explore and do a decent to large amount of gyms in whatever order you feel like is really cool and only like, Kanto, Johto, and a little bit of Sinnoh really experiment with that.
I like Gen 2, mostly Crystal though! The sprite and music aesthetic really hits a spot for me. When playing the remakes, I cheat in the GB sounds to hear it. I like the days of the week events and find it really funny they wanted to show it off so bad they made a whole family to give you stuff to show it off 😂 It definitely has faults but by knowing the mechanics, you can usually defeat enemies of a higher level. Beating Red with weird strats is hella fun. Nice vid! Hope to see more!
At 39:25 you said that you beat blue damageless but you actually didn't. You took a hyper beam from gyarados into Lee and then switched out on the recharge turn.
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I like Gen 2, but it's more for the designs of the Pokemon it introduced and the aesthetic of the games. I love those old sprites with their limited color palettes. Sometimes I wish the games still looked like that.
two of my absolute favorite pokemon (mareep & qwilfish) are johto, so i completely understand.
Tyranitar is one of my favorite pokemon. It starts nice but the physical/special split in G4 makes him shine. Like Feraligatr. The pacing of this gen is really messy. The levels in Johto...
I love the gen 2 remakes
yeah i despise people who write off newer pokemon as being "stupid design" since some of the most recent gens have brought some of the coolest looking mon... but overall, gen 2 i think had the coolest pokemon. the dogs, lugia, amazing starters, and common favorites like ampharos, sneasel, and blissey; there really hasnt been a generation since gen 2 that made me love nearly every new pokemon dearly
@@yoshifan4456yooooo! Fellow qwilfish fan nice
Gen 2 is very close to being my favourite just because of the Battle Tower they had. Level 5 battles, random team, and such were so much fun.
Why do I like Gen 2? Yeah, it is the nostalgia. I grew up with Gen 1 and was just blown away by the improvements. When you compare both, you can just see the leaps in quality while still being able to be played on the original gameboy.
Gen 2 improved vastly on the quality of the sprites and animations. You actually added on to the original story line and were able to visit all of Kanto in the post game.
Mechanically it introduced the dark & steel types, held items, friendship evolutions, specialized pokeballs, day & night cycles and breeding. It also expanded the move pools of many pokemon to be not as miserable as Gen 1.
All in all, Gen 2 did a lot right with the franchise. It's true the generations coming after it fixed, expanded and improved even more, but Gen 2 was the first thing that took the accidental success that was Gen 1 pokemon and elevated it to the next level. Paving the way for (and earning Gamefreak the fans' trust to deliver) many more great generations.
The horrible level progression is a legitimate complaint though. As is the lack of Gen 2 Pokemon availability for both yourself and main boss fights.
So should you still play it now? If you also have a sense of nostalgia for it, yes. If you're new to it, I'd say play the Heart Gold/Soul Silver remakes from Gen 4. You'll get the same story but with the introduction of abilities and the physical/special split along with a plethora of graphical and quality of life improvements. Just like I'd recommend playing Fire Red/Leaf Green instead of the original Gen 1 games.
No that’s super valid. I feel the same way about Black and White which were my second Pokémon games after Pearl. I’m not a huge fan of Gen 2, but I did want to comment here because I think you have really good points and acknowledge the shortcomings it has while still explaining the issues you have.
I love Gen 2 and Gen 5 pretty much equally, nostalgia is a part of it, but there is the fact that Johto and Unova just have so much content, a lot of my favorite pokemon, great music and ambience and some of my favorite fights.
As rivals go, Silver and Hugh are perhaps the best written ones too.
I, too, love the Pokemon designs of Gens 2 and 5 the most and am a fan of Hugh (even though it seems like Hugh fans are rare), but I'll admit I don't like the Gen 5 games all that much.
As for Gen 2, while not my favorite because the level progression is indeed bad, the region itself is fun to explore, offering a wide variety of optional areas and unique biomes. Unova feels so empty, I think the story structure of Black and White 1 does a lot to temper all the flat, linear routes in the game.
@@cultreader9751Hugh is the most chad rival of any pokemon game, he chased a terrorist organization that wanted to freeze the whole region, but not because he wanted to save the world, it was just because they stoled his little sister’s cat.
You actually can get a Leaf Stone before Kanto. Picknicker Gina can give them for you when getting her number. There's a fun little manipulation you can do (similar to what you did for the infinite Return TMs). So, you can get 3 Leaf Stones before Whitney. The same can be done for Fire Stones with that trainer with the Tangela, next to the Sudowoodo.
That’s only in Crystal, though. Judging by the title, this is either gold or silver.
One of the many improvements added in Crystal. Sadly this run was in Gold version.
"Rhydon deez nuts while I use Giga Drain" 🤣
This is the content that legit made me spit out my food in a surprised bellow of laughter.
Thanks CM 😂
Crystal's Houndoom sprite is still the best one.
Breeding and held items introduced.
Dark and Steel types introduced.
Crobat redeeming the zubat line.
Kingdra and Misdreavus adding to Ghost and Dragon types.
Shinies and Pokérus.
Getting to play in Kanto again, AND fighting Red. I don't know any other gen that has a prior-gen callback like that.
Time of day and day of week changing the content.
Janine being Koga's daughter, Falkner being Lance's son, Silver being Giovanni's son, there's lots of little tidbits that link gen 2 to gen 1.
Also, Houndoom is just rad AF. 😂
Don't cha know? If you rematch GINA (via phone), then she gives you a leafstone. She is the bulbasaur trainer on the route before goldenrod.
In Crystal and he not playing Crystal
@@vanhemdall9359, she does not give stones in Silver? Or Gold?
I liked Gen 2 before I started replaying the games via emulation to speed things up. That made the Rocket sections more obviously tedious instead of a change of pace.
What I STILL like about Gen 2 are the new mons, much more interesting setting than Kanto, and the presentation. I even like the easy access to Headbutt and elemental punches as a way to improve move diversity in an era where the series is still limited in that regard.
See I love the VIBE of Johto, and I think the locations and characters are interesting, AND my two favorite Pokemon are from Johto! I am, at the end of the day, a Johto stan!! They just.........had so much wasted potential, ESPECIALLY the remakes (does not stop SoulSilver from being one of my favorite games)
"I smell a damagless blue" 15 seconds after eating a hyperbeam and using the recharge turn to free swap.. thats some short term memory.
Read the TCRF page on Gold and Silver. These folks were making changes to the Pokemon roster in September of '99 and the games released in November '99. I think that's why there aren't too many Johto Pokemon spread around trainer rosters.
34:15 In defense of Lt. Surge, even though there isn’t a major trainer that uses Ampharos, there is someone who is _associated_ with Ampharos, being Jasmine. Of course that doesn’t excuse the double Electrode but maybe it’s just a really elaborate “haha balls” joke
Lanturn would have been nice for him due tu it's typing.
Surges team is his manga team. Also were his old cards in the TCG. I mean hes war themed so having two bombs makes sense
Forretress is really more of a walking makibishi for Koga. It mostly serves to set up hazards, and it wouldn't really be on-theme until Gen 4 with Toxic Spikes.
People didn't hate Gen V when they came out, at least not on Smogon. Obviously Gen V competetive was and is terrible, but people liked the games themselves. People hated Gen IV back in 2007-2010 though.
I don't remember how people felt about B2W2, probably because I didn't play those when they came out nor was I all that active in the fandom at that point (I mostly played competetive and this was mid Gen V Weather Wars)
I personally would like to see you do a duo typing run, but being able to use both sides of the typing. Like with fire and fighting
Gen 2 is my favorite because of the graphics style and the music. Gen 2 was such a big step up from Gen 1 and the games ran much smoother, so I always had a positive relationship. I got yellow and crystal at the same time as my first games. Gen 3 was beautiful too, the music was great, but it was a different feeling. Then when gen 4 and gen 5 came out, it felt far too different for me to put them at the top. It literally comes down to the charm/vibe. I was never a gen 5 hater, vanilluxe is fantastic, I just like being in the world in gen 2/3 the most.
Gen 2 is my favourite because it introduced my beloved Dark Type. Umbreon is my Number one favourite Pokemon of all time and he came in Gen 2 also (and actually his sister Espeon is my number 2 so yeah.) Only issue was besides Umbreon (and Sneasel in Crystal) the other Dark Types of Murkrow, Houdour/Houndoom and Tyranitar were all Kanto-Exclusive which was idiotic in the highest degree.
39:13 - No, since Tentacruel took a Hyper Beam to the face, but still fairly close.
I liked the idea of being able to go back to Kanto in Gen II when it first came out. Eleven-ish year old me didn't care how stripped down it was.
Of course now that I'm older, the wonky level scaling and utter lack of Gen II Pokemon on most enemy teams really stands out.
Even though it's incredibly unimportant, I think the reason Surge used 2 Electrode cuz of his soldier background and they're basically living grenades
I like the Gen II, but I love their remakes more. Without anachronisms, the addition of new types was pretty cool and new type combinations (Quasire, water/ground, Lanturn, water/electric etc) in Gen II was pretty cool. The gameplay was much better than the previous generation and also the existence of a mythology around the history of the region that the game contains. In Kanto it's pow pow pow earn badges pow pow pow defeat giovanni pow pow pow League pow pow pow take the legendaries, capture mewtwo and that's it.
Get a Neuralink! 😂
You forgot the Leaf Stone from Gina on Route 34. 9:50
I'm surprised how many people misremember this being in G/S. This is only in Crystal and HGSS.
11:50
Get haxed, Whitney!
i replayed the bit at 8:45 like 15 times hahahaha the wave into shocked pikachu face is too funny
Doing a bug type challenge of crystal... the spinarak slander hurts, he's okay once you get dig 😂
Yeah you just love picking totodile in gen 2 runs . Either you really just want convenience or you are scared of more difficulty in the run ahead
Doesnt Picnicer Gina give you Leaf Stones via phone calls? I think there's a phone call for Leaf, Water, Fire, and Thunder stones in Johto.
That's only in Crystal Version as well as the Johto remakes.
When pokemon sun and moon but can't same pokemon
We miss this drastically
Probably he won't finish it
@@martinmarinov7314 we just wait
Uh Picknicker Gina gives you Grass Stones Meatball.
Keep rolling Chaos
Swalot's pre evo is called Gulpin my good sir.
I started Pokemon with the original gray brick Gameboy with Blue version. Never heard of nuzlockes until a little after Sword and Shield came out, so I'm tempted to do them in the older games. Gen 2 has my favorite starter Typhlosion and I enjoyed the games, I have the same minor gripes, but I still love them
Don't do Kanto as your first man it's frustrating cuz the level jumps lol
My first normal nuzlocke was with BDSP and that was a wild ride. Ultra Moon is having trouble getting going cause it's definitely as difficult as it looks on YT 😂. Hardcore nuzlocke idk what to start with, was thinking X and Y cause everyone says it's the easiest in the series, but I don't have either and I can't find an emulator that works for it on my PC. The easiest games I have right now is Sword and Shield cause the AI is dumb. I recently did a Eeveelution playthrough on Shield and it was surprisingly easy for me, also kinda helped that I never got a fatal crit on my team 😂. A more normal nuzlocke was more rough
The fact that the Kanto Gym leaders have Johto Pokemon but the Johto leaders have so few is a meme and a half.
i do like gen 2, but mostly for aesthetic reasons. crystal versions sprites/animation are the best 2D pokemon EVER looked, imo. the pokemon sprites are just so good in general? the limited palettes the hardware necessitates just gives it such a cool aesthetic.
also the music SLAPS. theres just something about the sound font they used that gen.
johto itself also just feels... Cozy? for some reason? maybe its all the woodlands, maybe the visuals (i love how gen 2 looks, even beyond the pokemons sprites), maybe just nostalgia (gen 1 was my first though). idk. that combined with that music just makes playing the game feel like being wrapped in a warm blanket on a chilly day. its hard to describe.
THAT BEING SAID... yeah. i acknowledge that gameplay wise it sucks lmao. the tms are somehow even worse than in gen 1, only being saved by the elemental punches and return. the movesets are god awful, the pacing turns to shit the second you beat morty, and the plot is easily the worst of any mainline game. "look! its team rocket! ...sorta! anyway, lets slap em on the wrist and watch them crumble instantly." and of course, to add insult to injury, they slam 90% of said plot into one tedious section of the game.
HGSS are majorly overrated too. i replayed every mainline game in chronological order a few years back and. Man. HGSS was a letdown. the added bells and whistles cant save it.
so, in conclusion: gen 2 fucking sucks but im fond of it anyway.
There there and at the ripe age of 8 when it was released. I spent many of hours playing. Crystal is still me fav game followed closely by gen 1. Going I to the games blind, with only knowledge from cards n anime, Made them soo much more interesting
Also Bro,the Castlevania perfect runs and the Megaman stuff, pretty great, Hope to see more.
Did no one tell you that there are several trainers that give you evolution stones by calling you if you have their phone numbers? There was a school boy in the route between the bug park and Ecruteak city that will give you leaf stones. Yeah, it's random, but you do have access to all the stones through these people. Each one gives you a specific stone and he gives you leaf stones specifically. It is the boy with the Tangela. All you have to do is add only him and then you will only get calls from him, increasing you chance to get calls from him and leaf stones by connection.
Not me just learning from this that Rock is, in fact, NOT weak to Ice but is instead SUPER-EFFECTIVE AGAINST IT.
Like, I get it? But also why does the rock type even exist? The only reason I thought that is because rock is to the ground type what flying is to everything else.
Imo gen 2 is not a difficult game but a good game. The World is believavle and imersive (for the time and the tech) and it satisfied my adventurer spirit when i played it as a kid
I love gen 2 because it’s cool and I can, my first game was fr/lg so its not nostalgia, plus it has the best sprites imo
My first game was Yellow, but my favorite is Emerald, because the GBA just felt so much smoother and faster than the DS to me. X & Y improved that, but the story & nostalgia were lessened by that point, and Gen 7 dragged on too long
As for Gen 2, I love the ideas behind it, but the execution has always been so disappointing, and the remakes were better, but couldn’t fix everything
I suppose to a Nidoqueen, an earthquake may indeed only feel like a rock slide
Would it have killed them to try a little harder with the level scaling and introducing more obtainable Gen 2 Pokémon earlier?
However I think my biggest pet peeve is the introduction of useless baby Pokémon.
you could of probably manipulated time to get the call from the picknicker on the route below golden rod to get a leaf stone
My starting guess for MVP of the run would be Crobat for offense, and Wheezing for Defense.
Initial Edit: Oh right I forgot that Gengar and Tentacruel could also fill those slots, so there's potential there as well.
Second Edit: Oh right Nidoking gets the Elemental Triad, and so does Gengar, my guess is that Gengar will probably run away with any semblance of difficulty, surpassing even Crobat.
He’ll lose the first attempt 1:13
Completely damageless blue he says after taking a hyperbeam. Lol
I like gen 2 a lot, but some typings leave a lot of to b desired, for example typhlosion and feraligatr should’ve been dual typed, fire/ground and water/dark yanma should’ve been bug/dragon as it’s a dragonfly
Haunter (Gengar) and crobat r clutch. Poison is my favorite type. Gengar is my fave and crobat is my second lol. I'm kinda biased.
10:04 is anyone going to tell him Ginny can give him a leaf stone
I think original Gen 2 is deifnitely weak. but I tihnk HG/SS are MUCH stronger experiences. They basically patch up the majority of issues original Gen 2 have. More ways to get actual Gen 2 pokemon pre-Kanto, ways to get the evolution stones, plus certain pokemon from Gen 2 just having their Gen 4 evolutions to help their viability. It also helps make the Kanto post-game stronger. It still has some of Gen 2's initial issues of course, Johto is still wonky in some ways despite its charm, but yeah.
Yeah ice punch on a special sweeper basically is an instant win
Pick knicker in goldenrod with the bulbasaur calls and gives a grass stone rather than waiting until kanto
Minimize increases his "invasiveness"
Is that a mustache, or just shadows? 😮 I cant tell...
Just woke up,
"Chaotic Meatball Uploaded 2 mins ago"
Today will be a good day
tbh if you just give yourself the optimal stats without working for it, it feels like essentially cheating. I can understand doing it on a second or third run but personally i tend to just grind up normally bc it’s a more fair challenge
I think most of the gen 2 gyms should've been redone. Love johto but man there are things that need fixing give Faulkner a hoothoot or bugsy a spinarak or ledyba etc
Gen 2 is my favourite gen for sure. The pokemon sprites for gen2 are so well designed for the limitations of the system, it got me interested in pixel art as a kid, which led to a general interest in art, which is what I do now as an adult for work.
Silver (Gen 2) was my first Pokémon game ever, and I played it on the original Game Boy Color. The fact that Kanto opened up after beating the Champion and you had a showdown with Red were, for me, the coolest things about the game. I replayed it on an emulator not too long ago and MY GOD, I never appreciated the QoL improvements that came with Gen 3 until then.
Edit: the tunes for the Champion battle and the Kanto Gym battles in Gen 2 will always bring me joy, some of my all-time favorites
Definitely didn’t do Blue damageless 😵💫
Man they really abuse the technically infinite poke lol
Don’t think I’ve ever seen Venomoths back Sprite
Red and blue were my nostalgia
The Alphard reference 😂
Gulpin deez…..nevermind lol
Always a good day when a new CMB video drops
Okay viewers: What Kanto Pokémon’s availability in Johto surprised you most? Which one is still bizarre even today?
Definitely the Lapras in the basement of the cave before Bugsy
@@grantdaily9662 I mean, at least you can't get the Lapras until you beat Morty
@@watershipdowneyjr sadly
Im more surprised about murkrow, houndour, and slugma being only available in kanto.
started playing with red blue yellow, and i agree gen 2 is awful for the level curve and tedious mid game, its only saving graces are; its cool that there are 16 gyms (though all the kanto gyms are way too easy) and Red is a cool 'hidden' final fight
personally i find gen 6 and 7 my favourite to run nuzlokes on
Just starting, but I think it will take you two tries and Crobat will be the MVP.
My guess is early Gastly, Zubat , and Bellspout not bad core not great, since first gym flying I say i believe and you did it in one attempt follow with key player if live long enough Gastly line since versatile learn set in spite Ghost being Physical.
I always liked gen 5 except the new Pokemon I wasn't a fan of there designs but they grew on me very slowly infact I didn't like them until gen 7 hit (I was 11 when gen 5 came out)
I honestly like every generation. I don't get the hate some of the generations get. They are all fun to me.
Your commentary had me nodding my head and laughing the entire time dude 😅
38:30 It's Gulpin.
One of the trainers before goldenrod can give you leaf stones iirc?
Can't fall off if you're already a bottom.
U got this
You really dominated/beat/took care of that Bussy
LMAO all three interpretations are correct.
My favourite part of gen 2 is turning it off
I hated gen 5 back in the day. No joke, I was very dissatisfied with my own life at the time lol. I went away for college, which was a huge mistake in hindsight, and was miserable for all of it before dropping out.
So I played through Pokemon Black, and then I put in 1,300 hours into Soulsilver 🤷♂️. I swear my life circumstances and Pokemon Black enjoyment were connected haha
Oh if only you played Crystal. You could've found a Picnicker named Gina and she has the ability to give you Leaf Stones if you wait long enough. Oh well.
So I believe another creator by the name of Max Goodwin already did Crystal, hence why I did Gold/Silver. I try my best not to step on other peoples' toes and do the same videos as them, regardless of size.
@@ChaoticMeatballTV
Fair.
Is it at all possible to do a mix of this format and your prior format for the RUclips upload? Maybe not in terms of all the numbers in detail, but at the very least with your team members and death count and such. Maybe the team over the Gameboy Color logo and the death count on the power indicator. It really helped engage a viewer with your progress at any given moment.
I do plan on having that information on screen starting in my next streamed monolocke. Had a bit of growing pains getting everything optimized and looking good for stream and I've finally ironed out the kinks. Thanks for watching!
I really like gen 2, but because of the remakes. I mean, they were the first pokémon I've played(original game), but it was so little, that I don't think it changed my opinion. The remakes in other hand, were the peak pokémon form the DS/GBA era, they were so pretty, so fun, so vividy, I love it. BUT THE PACING SUCKS, IT'S HORRIBLE, HORRENDOUS, IT WAS SO BAD THOUGH.
when are you gonna countinue you all mainline pokemon game nuzlock
I like gen 2 because of the nostalgia. It's not my favorite, no, that goes to a 3 way tie to Legends Arceus, Scarlet and Violet (yes even despite the bugs), and BW2
I like Gen2 but it isn't my favorite by any means (Ruby/Sapphire, Black/White or Black2/White2). Its a messy game and lots of its nonsense really should have been fixed in HGSS (gym leader teams, low levels, pokemon avaliability) but I like it a hell of a lot more than the also messy Gen 1, the extremeley bland FRLG, the actively terrible Diamond/Pearl (though Platinum is really great), the completely forgetable X/Y, the unfinished feeling Sword/Shield.
Janine is weaker then Koga since he's her teacher and master. It's silly from a game design perspective but it makes more sense then you are giving it credit for.
But have you considered that fact that Poison is the best type?
Objectively?/s
(Nah, it's just my favorite)
Pokemon SoulSilver with only Water types
I actually love gen 2. Not as much as Sinnoh or Unova, but I think the thing I love about Johto is that it's simple. The design is really bad level curve and also pokemon placement wise, but the brief stretches of nonlinearity in Johto, followed by the return to Kanto just being a wonderful kind of mess where we get to see the world has evolved and moved on since R/G/B is great. Also the tunes are great and that fight against Red will always be some of the hypest shit in the entirety of Pokemon.
Admittedly though it's way, way too easy but that's more of a "God damnit Game Freak it's okay for your post run one of the Elite Four to be hard." kind of gripe. Which ties in to my general gripe of Game Freak not knowing jack shit about making a challenging post game/kinda post game up until like, Platinum and the gen 5 sequels. Kinda FR/LG as well but not enough in my opinion.
Oh, also in general if there is one thing I like it's the semi-nonlinearity in Pokemon games. It allows you to have some truly interesting adventures in regions. Sure it might make Professor Oak Challenges a pain, but being able to explore and do a decent to large amount of gyms in whatever order you feel like is really cool and only like, Kanto, Johto, and a little bit of Sinnoh really experiment with that.
Dude, Smith plays pokemon is making a Gen 2 remake so, go give him ideas.
I like Gen 2, mostly Crystal though! The sprite and music aesthetic really hits a spot for me. When playing the remakes, I cheat in the GB sounds to hear it.
I like the days of the week events and find it really funny they wanted to show it off so bad they made a whole family to give you stuff to show it off 😂
It definitely has faults but by knowing the mechanics, you can usually defeat enemies of a higher level. Beating Red with weird strats is hella fun.
Nice vid! Hope to see more!
Dam that crit on Miltank tho
At 39:25 you said that you beat blue damageless but you actually didn't. You took a hyper beam from gyarados into Lee and then switched out on the recharge turn.
The preevo of Swalot is Gulpin Deez Nutz :). What's the evo tho?
wait the phone calls to get stones weren't added until crystal? *checks wiki* dang, I was spoiled as a kid.
A tricky type, indeed. Love your challenges=)