Imagine going broke over a tattoo because you had no idea how a tattoo costs because you didn't wanna upset the artist because you saw a video on Inked's RUclips channel
@@pilapila183 Bullshit. People are allowed to save their money for a tattoo. If you are going to do so, then you need to know what the price is going to be in advance, right? Tattoo's should not just be for people with deep pockets who don't care about price.
There's a difference between being prepared to pay 1000 - 1500 (which should be enough to net you a great tattoo) and waking up to a bill of 5000. Price is, and will always be one of the first thing I ask about.
Jeff T but how he will know the real cost of a Tattoo if he never ask man you people are really annoying man like seriously who Dafuck doesn’t ask how much it will cost whatever they buy😑😑😑😑😑😎
Supernamek2121 Trust fund babies that’s who. People who don’t have to worry about stuff like that because they don’t have to worry because they know their parents will pay for anything
Exactly, I ask before I go under the needle because I want to know if I have enough money on me to pay for the tattoo. I'm not asking to be a dick. Or that I "dont value your art". I want to make sure I can afford it. So I dont scam you
Those are not professionals they are hustlers and usually don’t do good work. I’ve never had a great tattoo artist have any problems talking about money EVER!!!! Great artist understand the apprehension because most people bold enough to get tattoos were working class or broke. Tattoos only as of the last 10 years have gone pop.
I can imagine being annoyed by people trying to haggle the price, or asking for a discount, but holy hell! People ask the price so they know if they can afford you or not. Seriously, not everyone has a bottomless bank account.
Exactly!!! I ask an approximate price so I can save up enough money to afford what I want, from who I want. Absolutely leave a deposit, then give them some time to think about it and come back with a price. I would never haggle. But I do need to know how much money I need to bring to pay you.
Exactly I don't want to get something done then they charge like 300 bucks. Even hair dressers check to make sure that their price is ok with clients before they do anything. And that shit isn't even permanent. In my opinion you should always have a base price for things.
it’s more about how you ask. a reasonable way would be if you have an idea designed or in mind and you ask for an estimate price so you know whether you can get it now or later. but just straight up asking how much u charge makes it obvious you’re not their for the artist
You guys are tattoo artists. You are knowledgeable on this stuff. But the average consumer isnt. All we hear is tattoos are expensive. So of course people will ask about price. Imagine going to a restaurant and looking at a menu with no prices then going "how much for this appetizer" and the chef going "that's rude. You dont care about my food." You guys sound so ridiculous.
They don't really elaborate on the reasons why they don't like that question. There's so many different variables that go into the price of a tattoo. Imagine going into a bakery and asking how much a cake is before even discussing what you want. Size? Shape? Color? Placement? They're just saying wait until you discuss what you want to ask how much.
@@jacobmundt3681 they literally said they say what they want then ask how much it will cost. And say that question means they dont care about the art. So it's like going to a Baker, saying I want this specific cake, how much will it be, then the Baker goes "you only care about price".
Actually in fine dining restaurants and other service experiences of similar prestige the prices are not on the menu and you go with the expectation of spending a lot of money, and yes it would be tacky and strange to price haggle if you showed up there. Just because y'all are spoiled by the 20 dolla holla prison tattoo guy doesn't mean that artists that have earned their reputation and price point deserve to be disrespected. Considering the context of these artists careers, no, you probably shouldn't walk in there and, without touching upon design or any point of reference by which they can determine a price, start to price haggle, and yeah, definitely expect to put down real money. You're not entitled to any particular artists work, don't be tacky. People are so cheap and unreasonable. It's a tattoo. Save for it, and who knows by the time you can afford a serious piece of art you might not even want that exact design anymore or can think of a better way to do it. There's no negative side to that except childish impatience.
@@scj8863 asking how much something costs is not the basis of the disrespect. It's pretty clearly stated and obvious that the method by which it is asked is why it is disrespectful. People are just entitled and think paying someone for a service comes with rim jobs. Also pretty funny how people can understand tattooing's significance because they shriek belligerently about insisting upon their shitty designs and how it's going on forever and so meaningful and this and that but when it comes for paying for the quality and paying the pay grade of the prestige of the artist YOU chose, most likely because of their mastery and personal touch that cannot be recreated, someone who does not OWE you anything whatsoever, all of a sudden tattooing isn't that important or serious and they're just so ridiculous and unreasonable to want to be paid. So many professions are so much harder than people think they are. No perspective whatsoever coupled with a dedication to ones own ignorance.
@@MissCaraMintthey're not just talking about people who haggle. They're also talking about people who ask at all. That one dude literally said, don't ask for the price, come and get this tattoo done.
I think they mainly meant if that's the first thing you say. If you've already talked with them about the idea and everything, I feel like it's a good time to ask that then
I'm a cook, I want to open a restaurant some day. Imagine a customer asking "how much is this beef dish", and getting an answer like "you don't respect me for my cooking, you just want to know the price". I hope my tattoo artists are not that abnoxious
Yeah but if you open a restaurant and people go in, ask the price, and then say “it’s too expencive give me a discount”, then that would be disrespectful. That’s kinda where these artists are coming from.
… except a consistently repeatable meal is not the same as a lifetime permanent custom piece of artwork 😂 I thought it was clear that they are referring to people who ask for the price straight up without having a proper dialogue with their artist. Obviously a price has to be given because that’s the exchange. But they cannot give one up front without clarification on the size, detail, time, colour, time spent designing and all other factor etc. This would be the same process for someone like an interior decorator who does custom designs for an individual home. There are so many businesses that cannot operate on a one-price concept because of the variability in the work!
imagine you opened a restaurant and then someone walked in the front door and asked "how much for food". that would be a strange and very broad and unanswerable question, don't you think?
SoberSoldierim I’m a tattoo artist. I think what they are meaning to say is, it’s frustrating to get asked how much a Tattoo is right away before the Tattoo even gets discussed or sized up. Because there are so many variables involved before those things are discussed
This I can understand, if price is asked before anything regarding the tattoo has been discussed. But I got the same picture as SoberSoldier did. Like, of course I'm going to ask the price, I have a budget, but that's after we've discussed where, how big and detailed. They failed to elaborate in this video, because those who watch this might think "Well I'm not going to ask the price, I'm just going to roll with it" and then some can't afford it.
@@nimbzclowd well you need to have the budget thats it if your money isnt enough then have another session when you get the money...their point is tattoos are art its like money is irrelevant along with time because art is essentially priceless but they need money to just have a living because i dont see any tattoo artist whos like super egotistical with being famous or showing off how much thwy make or whatever i bet there are some but most of them really care about only the art but of course they need the funds to keep going
1:11 what typa bullshit is that? I can't ask how much I have to pay before I get something that will be on my body for the rest of my life??! Every tattoo I get.. I wanna know a price.. So I know what to bring. All my tattoos that I got from 3 different artists.. Didn't have an issue with me knowing what the price was before I got a tattoo.. That's like getting a haircut & my barber says "Don't ask me how much it cost".. Yeeeeeah.. I would never go to an artist that refuse to give me a price.. That sound sketchy to me.. You should always know how much you're paying for your tattoo.. whether it's hourly or an estimate of a flat rate.. @ the end of the day even though it's art.. I know business is business & I work hard for my money so excuse me for asking how much of my hard working earning money is going towards this tattoo that will be on my body for the rest of my life lmao smh
Tattoos change in price depending on where its at, how big, what type etc. Its like walking into a car dealership and asking how much for a car. Which car? New or used? Its common sense
@@larrybarry5298 This is a bad example because even if the car dealer doesn't know what a customer wants to buy he can say a price range that's common sense but your example isn't common sense.
@@insane_floki2205 No he cant say a price range you dumb fuck. How can someone give you a price for a car if they dont even know which car they are selling? Shut the fuck up
asking for a discount is pathetic. but asking for a price? its an appropriate question. maybe they have to transfer a specific amount from one account to another and gotta know ahead of time, maybe they wanna pay in cash, maybe they cant afford it and would need to save more and come back, maybe they wanna know about deposits. it's way easier to ask about money upfront rather than having an issue when you need to pay. Id rather be asked how much a tattoo will cost rather than have a customer not be able to pay for it later on.
@Lindy Covington problem is when giving someone a "best guess" of price and it's not that price, people will actually be dicks and bitch about it. Of course a guess would be ideal but then you need to give specifics of everything, size, area of the body, colors, or even a drawing or reference to go off of. But most people don't even know exactly what the fuck they want!
So let me get this straight I'm not supposed to ask *How much it cost *For a specific design *How long will it take So what exactly am I allowed to ask here?
@@isabel5066 The tattoo artist I am working with told me how long each session would take. He also mentioned he would charge per session rather than the whole thing. I think they've gotten better at transparency.
Yeah, do that and it’ll look like shit. These people know their stuff and will know what’s best for the longevity and design of your tattoo. As a client you definitely have the majority of say in your tattoo but these artists are experienced masters of their craft so you gotta place trust in them that they will take care of you. You don’t go to a chefs restaurant, order a meal, and then proceed to order them around the kitchen and tell them how to season their food. Same thing applies, you didn’t go to an established tattoo ARTISTS parlor and order a tattoo, then proceed to control every aspect of the tattoo and disregard their very valuable opinion, it’s downright disrespectful.
@@aslightlydisappointingsala8638 a chefs meal lasts about 2 hours. A tattoo lasts a lifetime you have no business prioritizing “your art” over the tattoo that a well paying client wants to have permanently on their body. I understand that they can help you make sure that tattoo looks as good as possible but that’s not at all what these guys seem to be saying and at the end of the day it’s their right to get a tattoo that could be considered “bad”.
Yea if u go into a shop dead locked on your references you're going to be disappointed. None of my tattoos look exactly like what i wanted but they look awesome because i let my artist do his thing.
If someone charges 150 youre going to get a piece from them specifically they could give a fuk what you think or how you want it.. you tell them a pineapple abd they will draw it up in their style and if you dont like it . .. well you know the rest
This makes me not want to get a tattoo anymore. I can't ask how much it is? I can't know what I want permanently inked on my body because it blocks your "artistic freedom"? You're an artist, but you're also providing a service. Imagine going into the hairdresser, telling them what you want and asking how much it will cost, and then having them say "it's rude to ask how much it costs and also I know you wanted a trim and highlights but this is my art and I think we should do extensions and dye it green"
It’s about people who ask these questions BEFORE they talk about design. Each individual tattoo is going to cost a different price. It’s not like a hairdresser where a certain type of haircut is a flat rate. You should probably have done a bit of research before you even came into the shop anyway.
No, it's more like going to a hair stylist that only does highlights and a certain haircut amazingly, but you go in and ask for something she doesn't specialize in and has never done... Why'd you choose this stylist in the first place if their speciality is completely different than what you wanted?
As others said, and I've seen it while getting tattooed, is someone walks in and asks, "how much does a tattoo cost?" Before any talk about what they even want. Once you talk with an artist about what you want, the size, placement, etc they'll give you a price or at least estimate if it's a multiple sitting job. That's always been my experience. Also, they are right, don't mandate a design to the artist. Work with them on what you're looking for and they'll be happy to work with you. Also, different artists have different styles, so if you want a specific thing you want to research the artists first. Also, a lot of designs don't transfer to a tattoo easily and it will look like crap in a couple years. A reputable artist knows what they are doing. Tattoos are art, not a hairdo. Good tattoos aren't cheap, and if you come in to a shop with the attitude that you want to pinch pennies, it's an insult to the work and skill of the artist.
If asking the price is a major issue for the artist, they should prepare a portfolio of pieces they've done and include how much they charged / time to complete. That would let the potential client see how the price generally fluctuates with size, detail and time.
alex39082 ya but all tats ain't finna be done the same or take the same amount of time so u cant put an exact price on something that hasn't gone into ur body yet
it doesn’t matter if you’ve “mastered your craft”. if this is going on MY body for the rest of my life, i want it how I want it, not how you think it should be.
Seriously. I understand that the artists want creative freedom but at the end of the day, the person getting tattooed is the one who lives with that on their body forever
Imagine going to a restaurant and you want your steak cooked at medium rare, then the chef blows a gasket because he just knows that well done is best. Like this isn't how good customer service works guys
When someone comes in with a drawing or a picture of something that isn't a tattoo and they want that on them, some things dont work as a tattoo so it cant be tattooed
lifty swifty but as a tattoo artist, you should be able to make it work or tweak it a little bit. not just saying that it wouldn’t work. for example, i have a full snake tattoo that required a lot of detail. my artist said instead of doing lines he would do spots for the details in its back. as an artist, you must do your best to do what the client wants
@@freshlycracked4095 I agree, but some clients aren't willing to work with you, for example, the detail on your snake, the reason the artist didn't want to do lines is because they would of healed together over time and looked 'blobby' so when people in these comments are saying things like 'sorry for telling you what I want on MY body' they don't understand that their are certain rules to tattooing
Most of these guys did a great job making me never want to give them business. If you're charging money, people are going to ask about prices. And they're often going to want a tattoo done the way the want it done, the artist isn't always right.
Ikr? That's like telling a barber that you want a certain haircut, but they end up giving you a completely different haircut because they felt like it.
Well peoples want to know the price, cuz not a lot of peoples have a lot of money, so they ask for that to know if they can afford it, I don't see anything wrong with that.
You just ask how much is the piece that you want. That's it. You don't ask how much without knowing or ask for discounts. I think that's disrespectful. And annoying.
It's more about how you ask. If you have a piece of art and idea and then ask the artist's price rather than setting limitations, it's super reasonable. If you want a priceline more than a piece of art, you're probably insulting them. It's totally fine to say thanks, and then walk out. It could mean that you're going to save money. It's not disrespectful.
These guys are making me nervous as hell. I’m saving up for my first tattoo but I have no clue what pricing could be and now I’m afraid to even ask and HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU NEED
It's totally ok to ask an artist for a ballpark range. Just be specific! "Hi, I love your style, I'd like a tattoo of __thing__, on my __body part__, approximately ____ size, can I have a ballpark estimate about how much that would be?" Its all about being specific to your tattoo.
Look man if your to scared to ask the price show up and if you dont have enough you can always do the outline or just a piece .. but ask the price.. i almost went to a lady tht was going to chargee 1500 for a 3 inch tattoo n she wasnt even good
My tattoo artist was really nice with me about discussing design, composition and pricing. Don't work with someone who makes you feel like shit for asking questions, especially when there are so many really nice and talented tattoo artists out there!
Oh no! I hope you found the courage to get your first piece. Keep in mind that these artists are celebrities and definitely you have too be a little narcissistic and up your arse to be on a youtube channel/tv. Normal, everyday tattoo artists are the nicest, most patient, understanding people I've ever met. Just do your research, ask specific questions, and yes ask for the price! Most tattoo artists are just as broke as we are and they totally understand lol
a-id like a flower b-oh sure (tattoos for a few hours) a-umm i just wanted the flower.. looks like youve added a dragon and fire... b-i thought this would look better, oh and you owe me 3 times what i quoted you now and you would know how much that is but you arnt allowed to ask what the price of the tattoo was going to be
"I believe you shouldn't give you're artists too much of a hard time on the design, of it be exactly how you want it and want it done"... for real? I'm not going to give someone a hard time but honestly yeah if something is going on my body forever and I'm paying you're damn price yeah I want it done the way I want it
Exactly. For exampe if I ask for a tattoo of my dog and they try and give me a tattoo of their cat, I'm gonna give them a hard time because it's not what I wanted
M. Mulder it was an example. I was basically saying that if I ask for one thing and they try and give me something completely different then I'm most likely not going to be happy since that's not what I wanted
@@Starhung1 then they have to do the thing stupid. Think about everyone who take old school portraitd of their animals. It's silly, but if you are a professional and the concept isn't offensive, then get over it, because the world of jobs works like that everywhere, even in tattoo industry.
Okay, I've watched a few of these Inked videos now, and can I just say, the artists they've picked to interview are so fucking stuck up. Clients come to you because they've seen your work/had a recommendation from someone, which means they want to pick you, they like your work. To then ask "how much an hour" is a natural and perfectly healthy question to ask. 90% of shops have an hourly rate, and they can vary...a lot. I got a large, gorgeous brightly coloured piece on my thigh for $1,000 in total, my sister in-law went to a different artist in a different town, got a smaller design on her upper arm in black...$1200. that's a BIG difference, and it was so much more expensive because the artist she went to is popular. I understand you guys are artists, your job requires a huge amount of skill, practice, patience, you work extremely hard to get to where you are, but how dare you bitch about your clients wanting to do their research. You're basically saying, if you're not wealthy enough to just accept the deisgn and not ask questions about price, don't get a tattoo. Believe it or not, some people save up for something special, and sometimes they want to know they're investing this money into quality and reasonable priced work. We're allowed to have both.
Tattoo artists: You need to trust us, we're experts, we know what's best! Also tattoo artists, looking at 9/10 other artists' work: yeah, this is not good. 😂🤣😂
Serious Surika They get mad when people walk in and ask right away how much it’ll cost. They want you to present what you want. Not all tattoos are priced the same. They want to know how big, where on your body, colored or black and white, how detailed you want it.
@@serioussurika1253 I totally get what you mean. Not lying, i did ask my artist ( that i had researched more for the quality of her work before I booked a session) but what I think they mean is when people as in the way that sounds like they’re expecting to get they’re ink done cheap. in any line of work, when people ask “how much?” It, becomes instantly uncomfortable to discuss pricing before the actual work begins. I’m a bartender.. It HAS happened that people refuse to pay for my drinks based only on the price.. but what if you enjoyed my drink?… if you refused to pay just because it was more than what you had expected then you would never know that.. that’s all i’m saying
@@liyahmunehira246 I mean I get not wanting people to ask for discounts but to not ask for pricing is kinda a weird request especially if the prices aren't in display. Plus most tattoos are unique so you never know exactly. That's all I'm sayin
Why tf would you budget with a tattoo though like its going to be on you FOREVER and if you cant afford Quality work at the time then just wait till you’re no longer on a budget instead of getting something mediocre
My dad once told me if you can't afford shit then don't get it or do it. Things you should ask for a discount or lower price. Car dealership, car insurance, airline tickets.
@@kia9054 because just about any person who works and pays bills would like to know how much something is? Thats like buying a car and than asking how much the price is after paperwork
I've recently decided that I want to get my first tattoo, and after watching all these videos I've learned that I'm literally not allowed to ask any questions whatsoever
This. Two of my tattoos are designs I drew myself. I did it the way I did it for a reason, and I'm getting it tattooed because it's significant to me. Don't sit there and tell someone "I don't care that you want an image of this note in your dead grandmother's handwriting. Dead grandmothers are so basic and I'm going to do the lettering *better*."
@@schmetterling2169 ....what. By your reasoning, if you order a steak medium rare and they give it to you well done, you should shut up and eat it and not complain, because if you wanted it your way you should've just made it yourself...
If its your way or the highway then you have no business in an art industry what the tattoo artists job to do is poor their soul into a drawing and put on you permanently in an efficient amount of time. Now im no professional artist but drawing takes a long ass time and its not you approaching them with a stencil. If youve ever gotten ink youll know one of the first things they do is take a picture and that picture goes in their portfolio. Now if im trying to make my art appealing im going to do my best to sway the customer to my style of drawing, if i the tattoo artist can draw something im excited about it will make the peice better. Its in the best interest of the artist and the client to give the artist as much freedom as possible after all you perform better when youre comfortable right. So try not to be arrogant and put yourself in their shoes and thats not just in the ink industry thats in all aspects of life. Im student pursuing computer science engineering and maybe a degree in business in the future ive always wanted to build computers for a living thanks for asking.
Very true these artists do no represent the artists you'll actually get a tattoo from they just represent the pretentious "ink master" tattoo sub culture
It may be super normal and casual for these guys to get tattoos all the time. But for some people it's a huge deal. And you can't be frustrated with them for telling you they wanna change something or that they don't like what you drew. Tattoos are hella expensive and are permanent.
Now I feel like an idiot because I remember planning a tattoo with an artist, we made a date and then I asked for a rough estimate of how much it would cost so I’d be prepared with the amount and tip. It wasn’t about like.. not wanting to pay a lot. I genuinely just wanted to know so I could bring in more than enough so I could give a good tip as well. Yikes.
You're fine! These guys are talking more about the rude people asking with undertones of trying to be cheap. Sounds like you were just being prepared! Most artists aren't as sensitive as these guys anyway. Don't you worry.
People ask the price because tattoos are expensive and want to know if they can afford it. If they say they want it “exactly as it is” maybe it’s because it means something to them and don’t want your “artistic influence”. Get over yourself.
@David do you know how stenciling works? It's still their artwork, it's so that the piece they put on your body looks as much like the paper drawing as possible. Also, the point of the video was to distinguish between people who want an original artistic piece on their body forever verses someone (sounds like you) who wants some printed out Clipart they found on Google... No need to be hostile, dude. If you're going to an artist because you want something original, etc, don't be an ass and nitpick every detail because you ASKED them to create something for you. It's different if you have an idea of what you want, obviously, but the point is they're trying to make sure you love your tattoo forever. I'm not going to show up at a construction site and tell the workers how to do their job. Same principle here.
yup, or leave and go somewhere else. If you went there without knowing the artists work and your broke, you shouldnt be getting a tattoo. And you are an idiot.
@@APPLEcrispBISH why is it a big deal to go without having a lot of money? just because you’re there to talk about the tattoo, doesn’t mean you’re getting it that day. you could probably tell them what you want, talk about specifics, and they can give you an estimated price. if you don’t have the money then, but you have the idea of the tattoo and price, you have a budget, so you can save up and get the tattoo when you’re able to.
As a customer, I'm not going to apologize for asking for a general estimate on price. If you want to get paid, I need to know if I can afford the work. That doesn't mean it has to be exact, but at least a minimum and maximum for the size and estimated amount of hours, so that I can save up enough to actually get the work. I really don't understand how that can hurt their feelings. Obviously I like your work if I'm coming to you for a tattoo, but there's a HUGE range of prices amongst artists, so if I'm expecting to pay $300 but you charge $3,000, then that's going to be a huge problem. I damn well better know how much you're generally expecting to get paid BEFORE we start this process together, otherwise we'll both end up unhappy in the end.
My gf got a tattoo once on holiday - planned out and everything but thought it was to rude to ask for price and the tattoo ended up being $400 more than she thought. So the rest of the holiday sucked cause we ran out of money and now she asks beforehand :P
@@supergluehurricane Dude really said to shop around was a bad idea. I just got a tattoo of good quality and with color for $200, another artist said they'd charge $600 for the same. I had tl make an appointment about 3 months in advance and take a drive but save $400. All because i shopped around. idc if its annoying. Im asking EVERY time. And if thats an issue ill go to someone else smh.
@@1994Trill Anyone who says you shouldn't shop around, in ANY business, is throwing up a red flag on their character and their work. Could be a tattoo, a barber, a mechanic, etc; people who complain about shopping around are scared of competition.
I’m pretty sure they’re fine with that. I think they just explained it poorly in the video. I’m positive they’re fine with telling you a price point as long as you have a design and idea of what you want. It’s people who go in and it’s the first thing they ask without saying what they want.
They're definitely making it sound like the whole process is about them and not the client. Who's having the experience for a few hours and who is having it stuck with them for a lifetime?? Totally agree with Sara Fabel
@@NaumRusomarov how exactly them going it for the money make it about them? It's about me, if I pay for a service. If they're doing it for the art they should do it free, char only for materials, or even pay their canvas for the opportunity to do their permanent art on them.
The entire pricing of it makes sense. Yes, the canvas is getting the tattoo, but the artist is giving over some of their art for the canvas to have permanently. If the artist doesn’t put a high price on their art, then I expect it to be mediocre. It tells me that the artist doesn’t put much value into their work and don’t take it seriously. If it does have a high price, then I expect it to be great because the artist actually puts lots of value into their work and do it the best that they can. I would rather go to a high reputation shop and buy a perfect tattoo for $500 instead of complaining about the price and getting the same tattoo but at a lesser quality for $50 at the local tattoo parlor.
I’ve been going to the same shop for 4 years and when I ask “how much?” I’m not trying to get a lower price the price of the tattoo is going to determine when I can schedule the appointment I know they aren’t cheap but I’m not made of money lol I need time to save lol
Sounds like many of these tattooists have limited artistic ability, and try to hide that fact by insisting that the tattoo requested, fits within the confines of their skill set.
Well, that is literally how it works. They want to work in the field that they have the most knowledge in since that's the field they enjoy and the art that will be permanent. Every artist, tattoo or not, works like that. At least most.
"When people ask how much I charge an hour/ what the cost is." Respect to the art and the process, but do you really want me to waste an hour of your time in consult if it turns out I can't afford the work just yet? If its worth it I will save up and come back, it doesn't have to be a personal attack on you that I'm poor.
Lindsy Kay The bigger problem is that many people that come in want a tattoo they know were but they don’t now what. People also come in and now what they want but don’t now size or just that they want butterfly or something. So it is hard to know what it’s gonna cost i take around 800-1500kr/h here in Sweden for a small tattoo, it can get a bigger price it can get cheaper. I can’t say how long it’s gonna take but i think customers should now what it can cost without the tattooer is getting angry.
@@johannakrantz8795 And that makes complete sense! I totally agree with you, and I don't think anyone should ever feel justified in getting angry about an artist charging a lot for there work. I'm just saying that people still should be able to at least ask what that price is gonna be so they can decide whether or not they can make that financial decision, if that makes sense.
I understand where you're coming from. However it would actually be better to discuss for an hour about the design then finding the price. Cuz artists can't give you a random price cuz each piece varies based on so many different factors. Some don't charge by the hour. A lot of artist price based on the piece itself. Size, placement, colour, minor changes. It all factors into the price and i feel like that's where a lot of people are confused.
These videos make tattoo artists look like entitled brats. Them “you want it or not” Well I want it sure. I also want a yacht. I know the price of the yacht and looks like i can’t afford it. Still want it. Can’t afford it. That’s why I need to ask the price.
I think there point is more about the timing. That people expect that they just can come in and ask for a price like your buying cereals. But it doesn’t work like that. It depends on colors, size, details and much more. It’s more about respecting the craft and all the work that’s behind it. After all you’re asking for an unique piece of art (or I hope you are) and it’s not like one could quantify that shit just like that and slap a price on it with little to no information...
@@-droid-j7-225 yeah ... But we still need to know the price before we make them waste time drawing something for us. After we explained the type of tattoo we want Of course
If you want “artistic freedom” then tattoo yourself. If somebody comes in with a specific design and they’re paying then give them that. If you can’t do that specific style then say that. These guys sound real prissy.
Tattoos are expensive and this is why people ask how much you charge hourly. We want to budget accordingly for the session(s). When you apply for a job, you ask how much you'll be making. If you are offended by that inquiry, that's silly,
Li Sch I think it also depends on the fact of what you want and how much detail you want. . Ask for the price after you’ve already discussed the tattoo and what all you want and where you want it and it’s size. some people charge by hour and others don’t as well as some charge by all factors.
Tattoo artists don’t usually just charge hourly. There are a lot of variables that make up the end price, and until they know everything about the tattoo u want they literally don’t have an answer about how much it will cost. The opening of the conversation should be all the details of the piece you want and then questions about time and price, not the other way around
Yeah, it's normal to ask for the price, but it should be the last thing to discuss. Many people start with "how much for a medium sized tattoo?", and I can see why hearing that every day pisses artists off.
Reminds me of that family guy episode where he says “I want a skull” “I’m gonna do Kermit the frog” “I want a skull” “Eh I’m gonna do Kermit the frog” The summary of the whole video
The guy at 7:25 was probably the worst about it. If I go to a shop and I hear the artist say that, I'm walking away. No way I'm giving that person my money.
Me: "Walks into car dealership" How much for this bmw? Salesmen: Excuse me? If you came in with the intentions to buy a car, then why tf are you asking for the price? Me: Umm, because I need to know if I can afford it.
How bout this then: take this gentleman's totally comprehendible example in your head and change car dealer to exterior house painter. So instead of a good it's a service that's being provided, just like tattoos. That should make it easier for you
@@ahein719 In which case, they can only give you an estimate. Same with tattoos. Until it's complete there's no way to know the exact cost. When painting houses, which I've done, and with tattooing(which I have not done, and can only guess) issues can arise. Things can take an extra time, people can back out just before you begin or half-way through the process. Different painting companies or individual painters can be any combination of fast, slow, skilled or unskilled. Only once the process is complete is it possible to know the final cost. It is a permanent part of you for the rest of your life, but most people complaining about the cost comments only use that in relation to the cost. If I'm putting something permanently on my body, I don't care what it costs(though they will happily give you a general idea). The important thing is that it's done in a style you like and from an artist you work well with whose work you enjoy. If money is such an issue that you will end up going to a cheaper, less skilled artist, don't get any tattoo. Perhaps save your money for a while to afford the quality and look that you want.
I don't really see the issue with asking about the price, I want some dope artwork but I don't have $10k to blow on tattoo. I want to know a rough sort of price beforehand... Your gonna be more pissed when I say I can't afford it and just walk out.
Ze Germanz they’re talking about someone walking in from the street and wanting to know. Discussing a price after you have sent artwork and ideas over is standard practice but doing so with the artist having no idea what you want done, is idiotic
That's bs. If someone saves for a tattoo they are allowed to get a tattoo. Tattoo artists don't make a lot per year. They should understand that not everyone can just drop 1k or more on spur of the moment but that doesn't mean they're too broke for or don't deserve to get a tattoo. So if artists don't want to quote a price range after it's drawn up, then I'm assuming they're pretentious af.
Hold up: are they annoyed with us asking the TOTAL price of the finished tattoo OR their hourly rate? (which most artists have established & set in stone)
I think there’s a difference between asking “how much for..” and setting up a consultation with the artist and telling them you’re financial flexibility. Detail/size/color/attitude are all factors in price.
Splitleaf Exactly, they will also give you a rough estimate on how long it will take them to do it. if you think that will be too much for you at the time then tell them you have to wait a little while
@@Starhung1 only one of them even mentioned about the design thing. The rest just acted like u can't ask until it's over. A lot of people have been commenting this so obviously a lot of people think they meant the same thing.
Starhung yes but an idea is discussed before you actually have to pay for it anyway (in most cases). Before you put needle to my skin, how much is this going to cost me? That's what they mean.
I am so glad my artist is a sweet person. I told her this was my first big piece and I wasn't well versed in how it works. I asked her if she charged for a consultation (which I always thought they did because it is time out of their day). I asked what she needed me to bring. I asked her how many sessions she thought it would be. And she answered everything with patience and knowledge. She even asked if I had a budget I wanted to keep into and she might be able to work with me. She may have talked shit when I left but at least she wasn't a bitch to my face.
That’s the one thing that bothers me as a person that get tattoos , we are asking the price to plan accordingly not because we are being rude if the artist says “ hey this will take a few sessions “ or this piece will be X amount . We want to know so we can have it ready when we come or if that person seeing if they can afford it.
budget $2000 Me: -$670 deposit Tattooer A: Ok here's the design I drew. The tattoo is going to be $5k Me: I can't afford that. Them: Bye budget $1330 Me: -$670 deposit Tattooer B: Ok here's the design I drew. The tattoo is going to be $2k Me: I can't afford that. Them: Bye budget $660 Me: I can't afford a deposit. Can you give me a price range, so I can know how much I need to save? Tattooer C: Jeez! What's with customers always concerned about the price? 🙄
Yeah I just kinda tell them my idea and then ask them about how much I will need to get it done so I can save. Price isn't the first question out of my mouth but usually the fourth or so.
@@Snobbishbumpkin "even before the design" ok dear, tell me how the hell are you supposed to give a price range when you don't know what the fuck the client wants? 😀 They came across wrong and rude tbh, but I get what they were trying to say, I mean... how are you supposed to know how much are you gonna charge when you don't know what style the client wants, how much detail it's going to go in the design, where, when, the freaking size? that's when you know the client doesn't know what it wants and it's going to give you a hard time not liking your designs because he didn't bother doing research for an artist of it's liking and things can go potentially wrong because he doesn't understand how this process works and doesn't help you either, there it's not an specific price range for tattoos, every artist it's different and may charge you more or less, that's why you have to give them an specific design or direction (when given artistic freedom) to get a price range, I mean wtf...
Oh, artists are never good at business. As an artist I know my limitations. My art is temporary (dance) and doesn't even go on someone else's body yet I do my best to make it like they want it.
@Fatter than I Look ide disagree with you about the money part... its like mechanics/custom car work, some have major success to the point of celebrity status but most are just avrage Joe status
Glad everyone agrees that these guys are pretentious and egocentric. Give me what I want within reason. Don’t add your stupid backgrounds and cliche designs
I feel like pricing is something important and needs to be talked about especially If I love the artist work. I’m currently in the process of getting my first commission piece and I asked him his price and he was more than okay to discus that with me! I even discussed certain things to possibly bring down the price, and respectfully he explained why it wouldn’t be a good idea. And at first I was shocked at the price but then I sat. thought about it. And now i’m more than willing to pay it and ima save my ass off for it. Because I can tell he liked my ideas and wanted to do this piece and make it unique and I fully trust him!
I'm not 100% comfortable with leaving the design in the hands of the tattooer. If i want something specific and will have it forever I should be able to say no to your design and drawing.
Petr Vecera some shops around me have little designs in a gum ball machine and you pay like $50 and the design that comes out is what you get. I think it’s neat for people who are indecisive or brave. You can get a skull with flowers. Anchor, flower, etc. my friend got a flower tattoo and it came out badass. The artist picked out the color and he got a orange and red flower. It’s on the inside of his bicep. I might get one but I’m hesitant cause obviously what you get is what you get.
Normal tattoo artist's are not like this at least on the east coast. The people you see here are west coast liberials that make no sense. Don't ask for price, if it's not the way you want it oh well im the artist i want it my way. That is some delusional shit these so called "artists" in this video are on.
This is solely based on what the artwork is that you want done on your body. If you're trying to get a detailed tattoo on your finger, they might say how about your hand because it won't have enough detail on an area that small, or if the colour of what you want done won't set on your skin properly, the tattooer will want to modify it so it looks better instead of blending in with your skin.
Of course you can always say no, but then they are also free to say no to doing something that in their professional opinion will look like shit. This video is far too short and they don't elaborate at all, but I assume what they mean is: tattoo artists are not always able to do stuff exactly as you want it. If they suggest a COMPLETELY different object than the one you wanted (i.e. you wanted a bird, but they draw a lion. Except when it's a cover-up, because you can't do just anything over it), yeah, fuck those guys, but in my experience, artists don't recommend design level of detail, placement or size changes to fuck with the client, they're interested in making sure the stuff that comes out of their studio actually looks good. I assume they'd still do stuff they know will be bad on the condition of "I the customer am aware this intricate tiny design on my wrist will look like absolute shit in a year, sign here". But I assume any decent artist would just say no to ruining your skin. Just..listen to the artists, people. They know better what works than you do.
Also if I want a specific tattoo, it’s my body. It’s gonna be on me forever. If I don’t like your design I’m gonna reject you and go to someone who can do it.
The way I ask for prices, is I wait till after I’ve told them what I want and given references. I say, “can you give me an estimate pre tip you think this might cost, so I can set my money aside” it’s not asking for an exact price, and it lets them know you will tip. Also shows you’re more responsible with the money by setting it aside having it ready, so you’re less likely to back out.
Saying people shouldn’t ask how much the tattoo would be is utterly ridiculous. Unless you are very wealthy, a tattoo is a big expense and most people have to know a ballpark figure. It feels very elitist to say that you shouldn’t worry about how much it’s costs because it’s about the art.
Actually, depending on what you want, where you want it and the amount of detailing, it's not that expensive. Just depending on what one considers expensive.
I’ll always ask how much it’s going to cost first. Obviously giving details of what I want and size. That way I know if I could afford to get it done or if I need to wait awhile and save.
"Don't ask how long it's gonna take" Uh sorry I have plans that I want to work around "Don't ask how much it is" sorry that I wanna know if I can afford it
I understand them not wanting you to get a tattoo that won’t fit on that part of your body or not wanting to steal designs but sorry you can’t have 100% freedom on someone else’s body like are you out of your mind?!
In my experience when getting tattooed giving the artist the freedom to do as they please always worked out better than having them do it exactly the way I think I want it. 10 times out of 10 you’ll end up with something way better than what you’ve imagined.
Ravin Strong that’s not what they said though. They all said to be open-minded and consider what the artist recommends because they’re the professionals. Not only that, but artists have different styles and strengths and weaknesses. If you bring in a design in a particular style and they’re telling you the style might not fit the body part or they’re not particularly good with that style, you shouldn’t be a dick about it
Well, 9 times out of 10. I gave my artist total freedom and she just copied the drawings I brought as ideas or added bad details. And it upsets me, because I´ve seen other works from her and she´s good, mostly when she´s given freedom. But I payed the price of her having a shitty day. At least it´s not bad, but it´s not good either, and the more I look at it, the more I like and dislike it at the same time.
How can you be annoyed at someone asking what you charge? That's stupid. No regular person goes to make a purchase without asking how much they need to pay for it 🤦🏾♀️😂
They are deluded and hyped up into believing they are something far grander than a phenomenal tattoo artist. It's like that in the arts; actors, singers, comedians, or musicians they think they're healing the sick or feeding the poor.
I was very fortunate that my brother in law is a tattoo artist and I asked him if he would be comfortable doing my first tattoo (as I didn't know etiquette if there was any, be prepared for lots of questions, I wanted it on my thigh, etc). He was super patient with me. I asked him about the price (because ofc I wanted to pay him even if he wanted to do it as a birthday present). He showed me some of the designs he's done of others, how long they took, what he did and the ballpark price those were and why he priced it that way. It took a bit of time to explain but it really helped, I was able to afford my tattoo and how to prepare for my session.
When you say "Oh, shit." while tattooing someone, their going to think you messed up on something that is PERMANENTLY ON THEIR SKIN!! Dont mind cussing, but seriously dude.
This whole price thing really bothers me because in the video most of the artists were saying it makes them feel like the customers don’t really want their artwork just what they want for the cheapest price possible, and I understand where they are coming from. But then you have people like me who genuinely love the art of the artist and would love them to create a piece for you and it wouldn’t bother me if my piece was expensive. I wouldn’t mind paying for it. But I need to know at least some kind of a range because I want to be prepared I don’t wanna walk with 300 dollars and get a 500 dollar tattoo and then not have a way to pay for the rest of it. Like how do you ask something like that without it coming off as cheap
thats the way i approach my artist (only been to one for all my work) i talk to him about my idea, how big or what sort of space he can work with IE my full back piece ive started and he quoted 3 full day sessions the shop has a set price on full day sessions so i just saved up enough for all 3 plus extra
Right? Like, I save up because I want a good tattoo, but I can't afford suddenly having a 1,000 bill when I expected to pay between 300-400, and only have that much saved. I'm not trying to be cheap or haggle, I just want to know before the ink is going down, reassurance that I won't be trapped at the parlor with a bill I can't pay.
When I got my most recent tattoo by the amazing Jessie Coccia, I went in, and I told her how much money I had available for the tattoo. She said she would do the tattoo for a more reasonable amount because she just really liked my story and idea.
You have to remember that these are artists. We see the world in a whole different way. Everything to us is beautiful and there is something to be learned from every situation. We aren’t price reliant, we just want to put ourselves out there
I got a tattoo today and I almost asked how long we had to go. It was getting extremely painful and I was struggling heaps and heaps (first tattoo) but I kept my mouth shut and sucked it up
Why is everyone talking like their artwork is a gift sent from God? It's a tattoo, we need to know the price, I don't wanna spend 500$ for a small sized tattoo. + WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY TO GET FROM ATM
Being an artist is a gift. look at the wonderful work Goya, Van Gough, Dali etc etc did. The difference is these tattoo 'artists' aren't artists, they are just bloody good at drawing and there's a huge difference. If they were artists, then they wouldn't be tattooing, they'd be making art!!
First Surname has nothing to do with america you fuckwit. obviously you’ve never gotten one because these people act nothing like regular tattoo artists. these people are self righteous pricks that think too highly of themselves.
I get artists don't want to get asked about prices, but the customer has to know a rough estimate. I've got a lot of tattoos myself and I always ask how much it'll be just so I can prepare. Of course explaining your ideas, part of the body and size should come first, however, a customer needs to know how much that'd cost at the most (meaning having to do design changes on the day of your appointment, etc). You book in with an artist months beforehand, like, I need to plan my finances xD of course I've never haggled at all. The price I got told, I paid + tips. But as a customer, a rough estimate is really appreciated. Do I need 200€ or 600€? There's a difference. Especially for people who've never had any work done or go to a new artist or have always got small tattoos and get their first larger piece.
I agree with 3:40. My recent tattoo is a skull with roses and I wanted to get it on my hand and my design was small. When I showed my artist, he suggested it should be on my arm instead and omg it's absolutely gorgeous! It's bigger than the original idea too! So colorful too ❤️ it was a tribute Tattoo for my mom. She loved skulls and gothic things
Ok, so I'm supposed to give the artist a general concept of what I want, not be picky if the artist wants to put something in it that I dont like, not ask how much it will cost, not have any input on where it goes on my body, but wear it proudly for the rest of my life... Did, at any point, any of these people stop to think that are working for the customer? If they want to draw a design however they please, do it on your own time. I'm open to your input but *I* have the final say so on my body art
"The last thing you want to do is piss off your tattoo artist." Some of these guys have their heads so high up in the air, they are dilusional. They act like they were gods. Absolutely pretentious.
I can agree with most of their frustrations. Tattoos function differently from drawings on paper and stretch and distort depending on the area, and I heard they're supposed follow the muscle groups they're wrapping around. And there's all kinds of stuff about areas that fade quickly and areas that age differently, so I'd consider that as some reasons why allowing them the freedom to draw a design according to their expertise would be a win for the customer in the end. The other one is that if you can find one with a specific style that really appeals to you, then you can tell them the subject matter and expect them to make a design you'll love. But if you tell the artist every detail of how it's supposed to look then you might as well have drawn the design yourself and found a really cheap artist who'll only need to replicate it exactly. If you went through the trouble of getting a tattoo you like, and then want to change it the moment someone else doesn't approve, I can see why that would be frustrating for the tattooist. Clients who ask for revisions again and again because they don't know what they want, all they know is they want perfection which doesn't exist - those would be a black hole for time and money. Asking for a price? I'm with everyone else on that, of course people need at least an idea. Expecting someone to get a tattoo without knowing what they'll need to pay is ridiculous.
@@morgantorium In this video they don't specifically talk about "letting the artist the freedom when it comes to the placement of the tattoo". Cause sure, he knows better where and in which size stuff might work or look good and that's a reasonable point to listen to his opinion. The idea I get from this video, is that the artists want to change the design itself so much, that it suits their style, so they feel comfortable doing it, have fun doing it and aren't annoyed while doing it. And that's just asshole behaviour. If a customer has a design in mind he wants in a specific style, with certain lines for certain reasons, the artist should be that flexible and professional to be at least able to recreate the design, or tell the customer that he doesn't do "style xy" and he should go elsewhere. Wanting the customer to have to adapt to the free rambling of the artist, not knowing what one will eventually get and if one will like it, is a 100% no go for me. I would never trust anybody in my whole life that much to give him that much freedom of permanent changes over my body. And sure, I have to like the artist's style. But still I want the exact same design I planned on. I have to live with that thing on my body for the rest of my life.
Just sit down and find out how much I want to charge for my masterpiece once it’s done. One thing I don’t agree with is that just because you’re a great artist, doesn’t make your ideas great. There are a million musicians who are great at their instrument, but can’t write their own songs. (Not all)
I think what most of the artists mean is that you need to trust them on things like size and placement. You can’t get things too small because the ink will expand after healing, some pieces don’t look great on certain parts of the body because movement will warp the piece and it will only look good at a certain angle, and a lot of white highlights will yellow-especially due to sun exposure, etc, etc. I understand someone not appreciating the work you’ve drawn up for them, as I’m an artist myself working to become a tattooist, but this person is going through hours of pain and a lot of money for something they will have on their body forever. A client should be familiar with their artists work enough to except the style they will end up having but average clients need to have their artist explain to them why their idea may not work. To avoid having to change everything multiple times, I usually do a very quick sketch and show my client where I’m placing their ideas on the drawing so we can negotiate in the beginning stages of my custom work. Most clients are also not flush with money walking into the store looking to shop around, especially if you are not working from a street shop, they need to know the price after they talk about their concept with the artist. Shops get lots and lots of rude customers who only care about the price, and I get that, but your clients need to know a price range for the consultation, custom artwork, hours, products, etc they have to pay for. It’s just plain customer service and the artist and the client will be happier with their work in the end.
Everyone: *actual questions*
Chris*: *s h o w m e y o u r t i t s*
😂😂 he really tried to justify his point after that. You can really see him making stuff up along
LOL what is it just me who thinks that he sounds like Korg from Thor
@@r.a.fplays6823 fucking thank you! I seriously knew he sounded familiar but could not place the voice to save my life😂
He's hilarious.
@@giannidescalzo2101 I agree, anything he says is always a trip
Imagine going broke over a tattoo because you had no idea how a tattoo costs because you didn't wanna upset the artist because you saw a video on Inked's RUclips channel
if you're that tight on money you probably shouldn't be spending it on tattoos in the first place
@@pilapila183 Bullshit. People are allowed to save their money for a tattoo. If you are going to do so, then you need to know what the price is going to be in advance, right? Tattoo's should not just be for people with deep pockets who don't care about price.
There's a difference between being prepared to pay 1000 - 1500 (which should be enough to net you a great tattoo) and waking up to a bill of 5000. Price is, and will always be one of the first thing I ask about.
Jeff T but how he will know the real cost of a Tattoo if he never ask man you people are really annoying man like seriously who Dafuck doesn’t ask how much it will cost whatever they buy😑😑😑😑😑😎
Supernamek2121 Trust fund babies that’s who. People who don’t have to worry about stuff like that because they don’t have to worry because they know their parents will pay for anything
"do you want the price or do you want a tattoo?" i want a tattoo that i can afford?? it's not an either or situation here
Yeah that guy didnt sound very professional. People have to know how much things cost
For real
Exactly, I ask before I go under the needle because I want to know if I have enough money on me to pay for the tattoo.
I'm not asking to be a dick. Or that I "dont value your art". I want to make sure I can afford it. So I dont scam you
Me: How much for the steak and chips?
Server : do you want it or not?
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Those are not professionals they are hustlers and usually don’t do good work. I’ve never had a great tattoo artist have any problems talking about money EVER!!!! Great artist understand the apprehension because most people bold enough to get tattoos were working class or broke. Tattoos only as of the last 10 years have gone pop.
I can imagine being annoyed by people trying to haggle the price, or asking for a discount, but holy hell! People ask the price so they know if they can afford you or not. Seriously, not everyone has a bottomless bank account.
Amen
Exactly.. 🙄
Exactly!!! I ask an approximate price so I can save up enough money to afford what I want, from who I want. Absolutely leave a deposit, then give them some time to think about it and come back with a price. I would never haggle. But I do need to know how much money I need to bring to pay you.
Exactly I don't want to get something done then they charge like 300 bucks. Even hair dressers check to make sure that their price is ok with clients before they do anything. And that shit isn't even permanent. In my opinion you should always have a base price for things.
I had a friend that literally just got a 2 inch black and grey mushroom and the dude charged 250
Literally selling a service; "I don't like when people ask how much it's going to cost"
Haha facts like what like people have every right to know how much they are gunna spend
What do you do if your tattoo is finish and you can't afford it. Tattoo artist scratch it all up
it’s more about how you ask. a reasonable way would be if you have an idea designed or in mind and you ask for an estimate price so you know whether you can get it now or later. but just straight up asking how much u charge makes it obvious you’re not their for the artist
Yep a bunch of tattoo artists are complete douchebags.. They need to find something else to do since they are such pussies.
How many times have you looked at an awesome piece and thought. "Wow! thats great! I’m sure it was cheap"
You guys are tattoo artists. You are knowledgeable on this stuff. But the average consumer isnt. All we hear is tattoos are expensive. So of course people will ask about price. Imagine going to a restaurant and looking at a menu with no prices then going "how much for this appetizer" and the chef going "that's rude. You dont care about my food." You guys sound so ridiculous.
They don't really elaborate on the reasons why they don't like that question. There's so many different variables that go into the price of a tattoo. Imagine going into a bakery and asking how much a cake is before even discussing what you want. Size? Shape? Color? Placement? They're just saying wait until you discuss what you want to ask how much.
@@jacobmundt3681 they literally said they say what they want then ask how much it will cost. And say that question means they dont care about the art. So it's like going to a Baker, saying I want this specific cake, how much will it be, then the Baker goes "you only care about price".
Actually in fine dining restaurants and other service experiences of similar prestige the prices are not on the menu and you go with the expectation of spending a lot of money, and yes it would be tacky and strange to price haggle if you showed up there. Just because y'all are spoiled by the 20 dolla holla prison tattoo guy doesn't mean that artists that have earned their reputation and price point deserve to be disrespected. Considering the context of these artists careers, no, you probably shouldn't walk in there and, without touching upon design or any point of reference by which they can determine a price, start to price haggle, and yeah, definitely expect to put down real money. You're not entitled to any particular artists work, don't be tacky. People are so cheap and unreasonable. It's a tattoo. Save for it, and who knows by the time you can afford a serious piece of art you might not even want that exact design anymore or can think of a better way to do it. There's no negative side to that except childish impatience.
@@sunnydee4240 "disrespected" =/= asking how much something costs
@@scj8863 asking how much something costs is not the basis of the disrespect. It's pretty clearly stated and obvious that the method by which it is asked is why it is disrespectful. People are just entitled and think paying someone for a service comes with rim jobs. Also pretty funny how people can understand tattooing's significance because they shriek belligerently about insisting upon their shitty designs and how it's going on forever and so meaningful and this and that but when it comes for paying for the quality and paying the pay grade of the prestige of the artist YOU chose, most likely because of their mastery and personal touch that cannot be recreated, someone who does not OWE you anything whatsoever, all of a sudden tattooing isn't that important or serious and they're just so ridiculous and unreasonable to want to be paid. So many professions are so much harder than people think they are. No perspective whatsoever coupled with a dedication to ones own ignorance.
All I'm hearing is "You are a piece of human canvas, shut up and submit to my artistic talent, then pay me whatever I tell you to pay me"
"Dont ask for the price"
Ok , I'll pay with monopoly money.
I will pay you with love and care towards the tattoo
They are obviously talking about people who haggle. You are being obtuse.
@@MissCaraMintthey're not just talking about people who haggle. They're also talking about people who ask at all. That one dude literally said, don't ask for the price, come and get this tattoo done.
Imagine walking into a store and not knowing if a box of cereal is 5$ or 100$
chris walker bro 😂
Exactly!! lol
exactly. fucking idiots. “dont ask the price” uhh okay😂 why so when its done you can say $450 instead of $90?
chris
hahaha 100! as a tattooist I cringed so hard when they said don’t ask price.
Why do most tattooers get pissed at the "how much will it cost?" question? I literally just need to know how much to take out of the ATM..
I think they mainly meant if that's the first thing you say. If you've already talked with them about the idea and everything, I feel like it's a good time to ask that then
Okay good cause that's what I do lol. I hope you're right cause otherwise wow........
@@christopherrecinos2988 yeah it has to be
@@BlueClarinetKitty Chris is definitely right.
Smörgåsbord thank god
I'm a cook, I want to open a restaurant some day. Imagine a customer asking "how much is this beef dish", and getting an answer like "you don't respect me for my cooking, you just want to know the price". I hope my tattoo artists are not that abnoxious
Obnoxious*
Yeah but if you open a restaurant and people go in, ask the price, and then say “it’s too expencive give me a discount”, then that would be disrespectful. That’s kinda where these artists are coming from.
… except a consistently repeatable meal is not the same as a lifetime permanent custom piece of artwork 😂 I thought it was clear that they are referring to people who ask for the price straight up without having a proper dialogue with their artist. Obviously a price has to be given because that’s the exchange. But they cannot give one up front without clarification on the size, detail, time, colour, time spent designing and all other factor etc.
This would be the same process for someone like an interior decorator who does custom designs for an individual home. There are so many businesses that cannot operate on a one-price concept because of the variability in the work!
@@risanaomi4958 Yes also this.
imagine you opened a restaurant and then someone walked in the front door and asked "how much for food". that would be a strange and very broad and unanswerable question, don't you think?
Person: How much will this tattoo cost?
Tattoo Artist: *so you have chosen death?*
ok i wont ask about the price, but dont get all upset if after you are done I cant pay for it
Artem Rayskyy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly JFC
😂😂😂😂 so true!!
Jesus christ you people. They're saying don't ask for prices before you even discuss the tattoo. This isn't hard to figure out.
@@zachgilm calm down its a joke
This is intimidating. Why cant i ask how much? I budget my money and would like to know so I can expect it.
SoberSoldierim I’m a tattoo artist. I think what they are meaning to say is, it’s frustrating to get asked how much a Tattoo is right away before the Tattoo even gets discussed or sized up. Because there are so many variables involved before those things are discussed
This I can understand, if price is asked before anything regarding the tattoo has been discussed. But I got the same picture as SoberSoldier did. Like, of course I'm going to ask the price, I have a budget, but that's after we've discussed where, how big and detailed. They failed to elaborate in this video, because those who watch this might think "Well I'm not going to ask the price, I'm just going to roll with it" and then some can't afford it.
@@HazardDiamond exactly, they didn't clarify enough on that. Some definitely could get the wrong idea which, in turn, could hurt either party
@@nimbzclowd well you need to have the budget thats it if your money isnt enough then have another session when you get the money...their point is tattoos are art its like money is irrelevant along with time because art is essentially priceless but they need money to just have a living because i dont see any tattoo artist whos like super egotistical with being famous or showing off how much thwy make or whatever i bet there are some but most of them really care about only the art but of course they need the funds to keep going
Jay Soul ir
“ people get offended at the most random things these days”
How dare you ask the price! Leave my store immediately!!
1:11 what typa bullshit is that? I can't ask how much I have to pay before I get something that will be on my body for the rest of my life??! Every tattoo I get.. I wanna know a price.. So I know what to bring. All my tattoos that I got from 3 different artists.. Didn't have an issue with me knowing what the price was before I got a tattoo.. That's like getting a haircut & my barber says "Don't ask me how much it cost".. Yeeeeeah.. I would never go to an artist that refuse to give me a price.. That sound sketchy to me.. You should always know how much you're paying for your tattoo.. whether it's hourly or an estimate of a flat rate.. @ the end of the day even though it's art.. I know business is business & I work hard for my money so excuse me for asking how much of my hard working earning money is going towards this tattoo that will be on my body for the rest of my life lmao smh
Anyone pissed at clients asking the price sounds like a snob, not everyone’s made of money
Ye but if you can’t afford a good tattoo, stop pestering renowned artists and instead get a $70 tattoo at a walk in shop.
Tattoos change in price depending on where its at, how big, what type etc. Its like walking into a car dealership and asking how much for a car. Which car? New or used? Its common sense
@@larrybarry5298 This is a bad example because even if the car dealer doesn't know what a customer wants to buy he can say a price range that's common sense but your example isn't common sense.
@@insane_floki2205 No he cant say a price range you dumb fuck. How can someone give you a price for a car if they dont even know which car they are selling? Shut the fuck up
@@kidcat3000 They might be able to afford it, they might not but to know they have to ask how much it will be thats just how a business works
Imagine wanting to know what you're paying for...
Imagine that
Odds are you're paying for a tattoo
@@chanderson2559 Buy how much am I paying for the tattoo?
@@chanderson2559 There's literally nothing wrong with wanting to know how much it would cost
And stuck with lol
asking for a discount is pathetic. but asking for a price? its an appropriate question. maybe they have to transfer a specific amount from one account to another and gotta know ahead of time, maybe they wanna pay in cash, maybe they cant afford it and would need to save more and come back, maybe they wanna know about deposits. it's way easier to ask about money upfront rather than having an issue when you need to pay. Id rather be asked how much a tattoo will cost rather than have a customer not be able to pay for it later on.
Abigail Marie Gershon straight up.. just wants us to guess how much cash we should bring in our wallets?? What a tool.
But the point is It's hard to tell the price, when you don't even know what you gonna be tattooing
Most of the places I’ve been to don’t even take cards so it’s always cash
@Lindy Covington problem is when giving someone a "best guess" of price and it's not that price, people will actually be dicks and bitch about it. Of course a guess would be ideal but then you need to give specifics of everything, size, area of the body, colors, or even a drawing or reference to go off of. But most people don't even know exactly what the fuck they want!
That’s not what they mean
So let me get this straight I'm not supposed to ask
*How much it cost
*For a specific design
*How long will it take
So what exactly am I allowed to ask here?
Can I sit?? Maybe????
*to draw a design
can i go to the bathroom maybe?
Bruh.. like knowing how long it would take would be nice to know.. so I don’t have to sit and wonder when it’s over..
@@isabel5066 The tattoo artist I am working with told me how long each session would take. He also mentioned he would charge per session rather than the whole thing. I think they've gotten better at transparency.
2:55
If someone’s paying $150/hr they have every right to state how they want their tattoo to look. Get over yourself.
Then go to a tattoo artist that does it in the style/way you want it done. Don't go to someone else who does it in a different style.
Yeah, do that and it’ll look like shit. These people know their stuff and will know what’s best for the longevity and design of your tattoo. As a client you definitely have the majority of say in your tattoo but these artists are experienced masters of their craft so you gotta place trust in them that they will take care of you. You don’t go to a chefs restaurant, order a meal, and then proceed to order them around the kitchen and tell them how to season their food. Same thing applies, you didn’t go to an established tattoo ARTISTS parlor and order a tattoo, then proceed to control every aspect of the tattoo and disregard their very valuable opinion, it’s downright disrespectful.
@@aslightlydisappointingsala8638 a chefs meal lasts about 2 hours. A tattoo lasts a lifetime you have no business prioritizing “your art” over the tattoo that a well paying client wants to have permanently on their body. I understand that they can help you make sure that tattoo looks as good as possible but that’s not at all what these guys seem to be saying and at the end of the day it’s their right to get a tattoo that could be considered “bad”.
Yea if u go into a shop dead locked on your references you're going to be disappointed. None of my tattoos look exactly like what i wanted but they look awesome because i let my artist do his thing.
If someone charges 150 youre going to get a piece from them specifically they could give a fuk what you think or how you want it.. you tell them a pineapple abd they will draw it up in their style and if you dont like it . .. well you know the rest
This makes me not want to get a tattoo anymore. I can't ask how much it is? I can't know what I want permanently inked on my body because it blocks your "artistic freedom"? You're an artist, but you're also providing a service. Imagine going into the hairdresser, telling them what you want and asking how much it will cost, and then having them say "it's rude to ask how much it costs and also I know you wanted a trim and highlights but this is my art and I think we should do extensions and dye it green"
They are talking about people who ask that question before they talk about the design.
It’s about people who ask these questions BEFORE they talk about design. Each individual tattoo is going to cost a different price. It’s not like a hairdresser where a certain type of haircut is a flat rate. You should probably have done a bit of research before you even came into the shop anyway.
No, it's more like going to a hair stylist that only does highlights and a certain haircut amazingly, but you go in and ask for something she doesn't specialize in and has never done... Why'd you choose this stylist in the first place if their speciality is completely different than what you wanted?
YES! Why is it rude to know if it's gonna break the bank or not??
As others said, and I've seen it while getting tattooed, is someone walks in and asks, "how much does a tattoo cost?" Before any talk about what they even want. Once you talk with an artist about what you want, the size, placement, etc they'll give you a price or at least estimate if it's a multiple sitting job. That's always been my experience.
Also, they are right, don't mandate a design to the artist. Work with them on what you're looking for and they'll be happy to work with you. Also, different artists have different styles, so if you want a specific thing you want to research the artists first. Also, a lot of designs don't transfer to a tattoo easily and it will look like crap in a couple years. A reputable artist knows what they are doing.
Tattoos are art, not a hairdo. Good tattoos aren't cheap, and if you come in to a shop with the attitude that you want to pinch pennies, it's an insult to the work and skill of the artist.
If asking the price is a major issue for the artist, they should prepare a portfolio of pieces they've done and include how much they charged / time to complete. That would let the potential client see how the price generally fluctuates with size, detail and time.
I've only ever seen that done at one tattoo shop out of the few that I've been tattooed at. I think more places should do that it's a good idea
I kinda get why they get mad at walk ins with it, but over message is trying to research
alex39082 ya but all tats ain't finna be done the same or take the same amount of time so u cant put an exact price on something that hasn't gone into ur body yet
@@brianc3982 true, but they can give a range
But then how would they overcharge you at the end when the work is done?
it doesn’t matter if you’ve “mastered your craft”. if this is going on MY body for the rest of my life, i want it how I want it, not how you think it should be.
Seriously. I understand that the artists want creative freedom but at the end of the day, the person getting tattooed is the one who lives with that on their body forever
Imagine going to a restaurant and you want your steak cooked at medium rare, then the chef blows a gasket because he just knows that well done is best. Like this isn't how good customer service works guys
When someone comes in with a drawing or a picture of something that isn't a tattoo and they want that on them, some things dont work as a tattoo so it cant be tattooed
lifty swifty but as a tattoo artist, you should be able to make it work or tweak it a little bit. not just saying that it wouldn’t work. for example, i have a full snake tattoo that required a lot of detail. my artist said instead of doing lines he would do spots for the details in its back. as an artist, you must do your best to do what the client wants
@@freshlycracked4095 I agree, but some clients aren't willing to work with you, for example, the detail on your snake, the reason the artist didn't want to do lines is because they would of healed together over time and looked 'blobby' so when people in these comments are saying things like 'sorry for telling you what I want on MY body' they don't understand that their are certain rules to tattooing
Most of these guys did a great job making me never want to give them business. If you're charging money, people are going to ask about prices. And they're often going to want a tattoo done the way the want it done, the artist isn't always right.
Ikr? That's like telling a barber that you want a certain haircut, but they end up giving you a completely different haircut because they felt like it.
Well peoples want to know the price, cuz not a lot of peoples have a lot of money, so they ask for that to know if they can afford it, I don't see anything wrong with that.
a tattoo isnt a need, it's a luxury, if you dont know if you can afford it, you probably shouldnt have it
@@dookiboy if i don't know if i can aford ir i will go and ask how much fucking it cost. Thats all
You just ask how much is the piece that you want. That's it. You don't ask how much without knowing or ask for discounts. I think that's disrespectful. And annoying.
It's more about how you ask. If you have a piece of art and idea and then ask the artist's price rather than setting limitations, it's super reasonable. If you want a priceline more than a piece of art, you're probably insulting them. It's totally fine to say thanks, and then walk out. It could mean that you're going to save money. It's not disrespectful.
Agree, I understant it might be anoying to ask for cheap price or give too much idea of their work. But having an idea of range is a basic question.
Do you guys buy everything without knowing the price?
Thank you!
liviestar365 exactly.
liviestar365 i bought my tattoo without knowingnthe price
No Way - If they come in with the design, they should be able to give them a price.
Yea pure credit card no limit haha nah
Suggesting your art is so good it transcends the need for people to know the cost is soooo arrogant, and so many of them in this video said it.
These guys are making me nervous as hell. I’m saving up for my first tattoo but I have no clue what pricing could be and now I’m afraid to even ask and HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU NEED
It's totally ok to ask an artist for a ballpark range. Just be specific! "Hi, I love your style, I'd like a tattoo of __thing__, on my __body part__, approximately ____ size, can I have a ballpark estimate about how much that would be?" Its all about being specific to your tattoo.
Look man if your to scared to ask the price show up and if you dont have enough you can always do the outline or just a piece .. but ask the price.. i almost went to a lady tht was going to chargee 1500 for a 3 inch tattoo n she wasnt even good
My tattoo artist was really nice with me about discussing design, composition and pricing. Don't work with someone who makes you feel like shit for asking questions, especially when there are so many really nice and talented tattoo artists out there!
Oh no! I hope you found the courage to get your first piece. Keep in mind that these artists are celebrities and definitely you have too be a little narcissistic and up your arse to be on a youtube channel/tv. Normal, everyday tattoo artists are the nicest, most patient, understanding people I've ever met. Just do your research, ask specific questions, and yes ask for the price! Most tattoo artists are just as broke as we are and they totally understand lol
"Shouldn't limit the Artist to what you want on your body" WTF😂 Yeah only I have to live with it for life... No biggie
a-id like a flower
b-oh sure (tattoos for a few hours)
a-umm i just wanted the flower.. looks like youve added a dragon and fire...
b-i thought this would look better, oh and you owe me 3 times what i quoted you now and you would know how much that is but you arnt allowed to ask what the price of the tattoo was going to be
Within reason of course. You still have a say but if your anal about it that can really hurt the art.
anal usually hurts, a little.
@@rhythmf.4460 I don't just have a say. I have ALL the say. I don't give a shit about the art. It is going on my body.
@@rhythmf.4460 so then let it hurt the art. it's my body, i have all the say.
"I believe you shouldn't give you're artists too much of a hard time on the design, of it be exactly how you want it and want it done"... for real? I'm not going to give someone a hard time but honestly yeah if something is going on my body forever and I'm paying you're damn price yeah I want it done the way I want it
Exactly. For exampe if I ask for a tattoo of my dog and they try and give me a tattoo of their cat, I'm gonna give them a hard time because it's not what I wanted
M. Mulder it was an example. I was basically saying that if I ask for one thing and they try and give me something completely different then I'm most likely not going to be happy since that's not what I wanted
Even if you want something completely stupid? Artists are trained in their craft and more than likely, know better than you
@@Starhung1 then they have to do the thing stupid. Think about everyone who take old school portraitd of their animals. It's silly, but if you are a professional and the concept isn't offensive, then get over it, because the world of jobs works like that everywhere, even in tattoo industry.
It's never going to be exactly how you want it. They can't read minds
Okay, I've watched a few of these Inked videos now, and can I just say, the artists they've picked to interview are so fucking stuck up. Clients come to you because they've seen your work/had a recommendation from someone, which means they want to pick you, they like your work. To then ask "how much an hour" is a natural and perfectly healthy question to ask. 90% of shops have an hourly rate, and they can vary...a lot. I got a large, gorgeous brightly coloured piece on my thigh for $1,000 in total, my sister in-law went to a different artist in a different town, got a smaller design on her upper arm in black...$1200. that's a BIG difference, and it was so much more expensive because the artist she went to is popular. I understand you guys are artists, your job requires a huge amount of skill, practice, patience, you work extremely hard to get to where you are, but how dare you bitch about your clients wanting to do their research. You're basically saying, if you're not wealthy enough to just accept the deisgn and not ask questions about price, don't get a tattoo. Believe it or not, some people save up for something special, and sometimes they want to know they're investing this money into quality and reasonable priced work. We're allowed to have both.
Tattoo artists: You need to trust us, we're experts, we know what's best!
Also tattoo artists, looking at 9/10 other artists' work: yeah, this is not good. 😂🤣😂
Why do they get mad at pricing? Sorry if I need to know if I can afford this???
Serious Surika They get mad when people walk in and ask right away how much it’ll cost. They want you to present what you want. Not all tattoos are priced the same. They want to know how big, where on your body, colored or black and white, how detailed you want it.
Don’t go into the shop then if you broke!v lol
@@liyahmunehira246 what if you have a price range? Are you not allowed to ask the price to know how much you're gonna spend? Lmao ok
@@serioussurika1253 I totally get what you mean. Not lying, i did ask my artist ( that i had researched more for the quality of her work before I booked a session) but what I think they mean is when people as in the way that sounds like they’re expecting to get they’re ink done cheap. in any line of work, when people ask “how much?” It, becomes instantly uncomfortable to discuss pricing before the actual work begins.
I’m a bartender.. It HAS happened that people refuse to pay for my drinks based only on the price.. but what if you enjoyed my drink?… if you refused to pay just because it was more than what you had expected then you would never know that.. that’s all i’m saying
@@liyahmunehira246 I mean I get not wanting people to ask for discounts but to not ask for pricing is kinda a weird request especially if the prices aren't in display. Plus most tattoos are unique so you never know exactly. That's all I'm sayin
New fact: some people have budgets
Heavy T 👍
Why tf would you budget with a tattoo though like its going to be on you FOREVER and if you cant afford Quality work at the time then just wait till you’re no longer on a budget instead of getting something mediocre
My dad once told me if you can't afford shit then don't get it or do it. Things you should ask for a discount or lower price. Car dealership, car insurance, airline tickets.
@@kia9054 because just about any person who works and pays bills would like to know how much something is? Thats like buying a car and than asking how much the price is after paperwork
You need a price to make sure you have enough $ like ?
I've recently decided that I want to get my first tattoo, and after watching all these videos I've learned that I'm literally not allowed to ask any questions whatsoever
Most tattooers are not like this. These are celebrity tattooers. They are the exception. Don’t go to them.
I reckon the point is how you make the question, not the question itself
Customer: I want the tattoo exactly like the picture
tattoo artist: no
I think they mean copying another persons tattoo, which most respectable artists won’t do.
@@boobertthescoopert i think they mean like the concept. Like a portrait or a picture, not exactly a copy of other tattoo.
This. Two of my tattoos are designs I drew myself. I did it the way I did it for a reason, and I'm getting it tattooed because it's significant to me. Don't sit there and tell someone "I don't care that you want an image of this note in your dead grandmother's handwriting. Dead grandmothers are so basic and I'm going to do the lettering *better*."
If im paying hundreds for something thats stuck on me forever, i kinda expect what i asked for and dont really care about their "freedom" tbh lmao
Exactly. If you want creative freedom then just go fucking draw on paper.
@@schmetterling2169 ....what. By your reasoning, if you order a steak medium rare and they give it to you well done, you should shut up and eat it and not complain, because if you wanted it your way you should've just made it yourself...
@@schmetterling2169 are you a pretentious tattoo artist? Lol
If its your way or the highway then you have no business in an art industry what the tattoo artists job to do is poor their soul into a drawing and put on you permanently in an efficient amount of time. Now im no professional artist but drawing takes a long ass time and its not you approaching them with a stencil. If youve ever gotten ink youll know one of the first things they do is take a picture and that picture goes in their portfolio. Now if im trying to make my art appealing im going to do my best to sway the customer to my style of drawing, if i the tattoo artist can draw something im excited about it will make the peice better. Its in the best interest of the artist and the client to give the artist as much freedom as possible after all you perform better when youre comfortable right. So try not to be arrogant and put yourself in their shoes and thats not just in the ink industry thats in all aspects of life.
Im student pursuing computer science engineering and maybe a degree in business in the future ive always wanted to build computers for a living thanks for asking.
@@schmetterling2169 they're not in the industry dinkwad they're just buying a service.
Rule #1 - Don't pick these guys
Except for Paul. Such cool dude.
True! Like tf I cant ask how I'm supposed to pay or dont ask exactly what their inking?
Very true these artists do no represent the artists you'll actually get a tattoo from they just represent the pretentious "ink master" tattoo sub culture
Yeah fuck these guys
So true. They all look so far up their own arses.
It may be super normal and casual for these guys to get tattoos all the time. But for some people it's a huge deal. And you can't be frustrated with them for telling you they wanna change something or that they don't like what you drew. Tattoos are hella expensive and are permanent.
Now I feel like an idiot because I remember planning a tattoo with an artist, we made a date and then I asked for a rough estimate of how much it would cost so I’d be prepared with the amount and tip. It wasn’t about like.. not wanting to pay a lot. I genuinely just wanted to know so I could bring in more than enough so I could give a good tip as well. Yikes.
You're fine! These guys are talking more about the rude people asking with undertones of trying to be cheap. Sounds like you were just being prepared! Most artists aren't as sensitive as these guys anyway. Don't you worry.
Customer: "how much do you cost"
Artist: "depends on what you want"
Boom. Solved half their problem.
Princess Ari exactly
as someone who has worked in the service field, there are people who would fly off the handle to get that answer.
this is the start of a long conversation through messenger lol
Neil Dickson how so, they send a photo or description with a placement and say weather they want an interpretation or exact replica
i get sent pictures of tattoos all the time.why would i copy a tattoo on someone that has maybe took the original artist hours or days to design
People ask the price because tattoos are expensive and want to know if they can afford it.
If they say they want it “exactly as it is” maybe it’s because it means something to them and don’t want your “artistic influence”. Get over yourself.
As an artist, it is pretty much impossible to perfectly recreate someone else's vision. Artistic freedom is important.
@@perfidiousprophet "I want a wolf in a pentagram across my back"
"k"
>it's a cat with the text I can haz cheezburger
"The fuck man"
Crystal Amalgam I think he’s referring to someone bringing in a finished piece... a finished piece can most definitely be duplicated
That doesn't mean asking for a lower price is okay.
@@colorbar.s Asking how much it will cost ain't asking for a lower price dupshit
"Dont ask how much it costs!"
Well uh.. do you want to get paid? I need to make sure I can afford it, gimme a range!
When it comes to a tattoo it’s a skill by an artist.
Price
Time
Art ,
Design
All these matters . Ppl have right to know price.
God forbid a person wants a specific design on their body forever
hahhaha true
😂😂😂
It's probably stupid so just trust the tat artists and let them put something on you and be cool with it
Sir Uppercrust III well its not the artists body is it?
@David do you know how stenciling works? It's still their artwork, it's so that the piece they put on your body looks as much like the paper drawing as possible. Also, the point of the video was to distinguish between people who want an original artistic piece on their body forever verses someone (sounds like you) who wants some printed out Clipart they found on Google... No need to be hostile, dude. If you're going to an artist because you want something original, etc, don't be an ass and nitpick every detail because you ASKED them to create something for you. It's different if you have an idea of what you want, obviously, but the point is they're trying to make sure you love your tattoo forever. I'm not going to show up at a construction site and tell the workers how to do their job. Same principle here.
So basically, pay what I ask and let me do what I want.
yup, or leave and go somewhere else. If you went there without knowing the artists work and your broke, you shouldnt be getting a tattoo. And you are an idiot.
@@APPLEcrispBISH why is it a big deal to go without having a lot of money? just because you’re there to talk about the tattoo, doesn’t mean you’re getting it that day. you could probably tell them what you want, talk about specifics, and they can give you an estimated price. if you don’t have the money then, but you have the idea of the tattoo and price, you have a budget, so you can save up and get the tattoo when you’re able to.
@@APPLEcrispBISH I know your comment is ironic but it’s kinda true. If you want good work pay for what it’s worth and do your recherch...
Yup your either wanting a good tattoo or a cheap tattoo. There’s literally no in between
RIGHT!
Certain tattoos I want EXACTLY what I have drawn. I draw my designs for a reason, but if I have a general idea that’s when I give them freedom.
i’m so scared to get a tattoo now like i feel anything i do or say will annoy them
As a customer, I'm not going to apologize for asking for a general estimate on price. If you want to get paid, I need to know if I can afford the work. That doesn't mean it has to be exact, but at least a minimum and maximum for the size and estimated amount of hours, so that I can save up enough to actually get the work. I really don't understand how that can hurt their feelings. Obviously I like your work if I'm coming to you for a tattoo, but there's a HUGE range of prices amongst artists, so if I'm expecting to pay $300 but you charge $3,000, then that's going to be a huge problem. I damn well better know how much you're generally expecting to get paid BEFORE we start this process together, otherwise we'll both end up unhappy in the end.
Right. all these weirdos can gtfo
My gf got a tattoo once on holiday - planned out and everything but thought it was to rude to ask for price and the tattoo ended up being $400 more than she thought. So the rest of the holiday sucked cause we ran out of money and now she asks beforehand :P
@@supergluehurricane Dude really said to shop around was a bad idea. I just got a tattoo of good quality and with color for $200, another artist said they'd charge $600 for the same. I had tl make an appointment about 3 months in advance and take a drive but save $400. All because i shopped around. idc if its annoying. Im asking EVERY time. And if thats an issue ill go to someone else smh.
@@1994Trill Anyone who says you shouldn't shop around, in ANY business, is throwing up a red flag on their character and their work. Could be a tattoo, a barber, a mechanic, etc; people who complain about shopping around are scared of competition.
I’m pretty sure they’re fine with that. I think they just explained it poorly in the video. I’m positive they’re fine with telling you a price point as long as you have a design and idea of what you want. It’s people who go in and it’s the first thing they ask without saying what they want.
They're definitely making it sound like the whole process is about them and not the client. Who's having the experience for a few hours and who is having it stuck with them for a lifetime??
Totally agree with Sara Fabel
Tattoo artists aren't nurses, they do it for the money and the art. It's literally about them.
These guys are coming off as douche bags...
@@NaumRusomarov how exactly them going it for the money make it about them? It's about me, if I pay for a service. If they're doing it for the art they should do it free, char only for materials, or even pay their canvas for the opportunity to do their permanent art on them.
Over inflated egos
The entire pricing of it makes sense. Yes, the canvas is getting the tattoo, but the artist is giving over some of their art for the canvas to have permanently. If the artist doesn’t put a high price on their art, then I expect it to be mediocre. It tells me that the artist doesn’t put much value into their work and don’t take it seriously. If it does have a high price, then I expect it to be great because the artist actually puts lots of value into their work and do it the best that they can. I would rather go to a high reputation shop and buy a perfect tattoo for $500 instead of complaining about the price and getting the same tattoo but at a lesser quality for $50 at the local tattoo parlor.
I’ve been going to the same shop for 4 years and when I ask “how much?” I’m not trying to get a lower price the price of the tattoo is going to determine when I can schedule the appointment I know they aren’t cheap but I’m not made of money lol I need time to save lol
Sounds like many of these tattooists have limited artistic ability, and try to hide that fact by insisting that the tattoo requested, fits within the confines of their skill set.
You are correct.
Well, that is literally how it works. They want to work in the field that they have the most knowledge in since that's the field they enjoy and the art that will be permanent. Every artist, tattoo or not, works like that. At least most.
"When people ask how much I charge an hour/ what the cost is." Respect to the art and the process, but do you really want me to waste an hour of your time in consult if it turns out I can't afford the work just yet? If its worth it I will save up and come back, it doesn't have to be a personal attack on you that I'm poor.
Lindsy Kay
The bigger problem is that many people that come in want a tattoo they know were but they don’t now what. People also come in and now what they want but don’t now size or just that they want butterfly or something. So it is hard to know what it’s gonna cost i take around 800-1500kr/h here in Sweden for a small tattoo, it can get a bigger price it can get cheaper. I can’t say how long it’s gonna take but i think customers should now what it can cost without the tattooer is getting angry.
@@johannakrantz8795 And that makes complete sense! I totally agree with you, and I don't think anyone should ever feel justified in getting angry about an artist charging a lot for there work. I'm just saying that people still should be able to at least ask what that price is gonna be so they can decide whether or not they can make that financial decision, if that makes sense.
Lindsy Kay
It makes sense, it do, we run a business and the customers should ask questions if they want even if we can’t answer everyone.
@@johannakrantz8795 Thank you! And customers should be prepared to accept that a lot of hardwork goes into a tattoo and that deserves to be paid :)
I understand where you're coming from. However it would actually be better to discuss for an hour about the design then finding the price. Cuz artists can't give you a random price cuz each piece varies based on so many different factors. Some don't charge by the hour. A lot of artist price based on the piece itself. Size, placement, colour, minor changes. It all factors into the price and i feel like that's where a lot of people are confused.
These videos make tattoo artists look like entitled brats.
Them “you want it or not”
Well I want it sure. I also want a yacht. I know the price of the yacht and looks like i can’t afford it. Still want it. Can’t afford it. That’s why I need to ask the price.
Nah, more that people dont understamd why they are saying these things
Yup
That’s make me LOL. Spot on.
I think there point is more about the timing. That people expect that they just can come in and ask for a price like your buying cereals. But it doesn’t work like that. It depends on colors, size, details and much more. It’s more about respecting the craft and all the work that’s behind it. After all you’re asking for an unique piece of art (or I hope you are) and it’s not like one could quantify that shit just like that and slap a price on it with little to no information...
@@-droid-j7-225 yeah ... But we still need to know the price before we make them waste time drawing something for us. After we explained the type of tattoo we want Of course
This series really just makes me feel like tattooers are completely disconnected from reality.
If you want “artistic freedom” then tattoo yourself. If somebody comes in with a specific design and they’re paying then give them that. If you can’t do that specific style then say that. These guys sound real prissy.
Tattoos are expensive and this is why people ask how much you charge hourly. We want to budget accordingly for the session(s). When you apply for a job, you ask how much you'll be making. If you are offended by that inquiry, that's silly,
Li Sch I think it also depends on the fact of what you want and how much detail you want. . Ask for the price after you’ve already discussed the tattoo and what all you want and where you want it and it’s size. some people charge by hour and others don’t as well as some charge by all factors.
Tattoo artists don’t usually just charge hourly. There are a lot of variables that make up the end price, and until they know everything about the tattoo u want they literally don’t have an answer about how much it will cost. The opening of the conversation should be all the details of the piece you want and then questions about time and price, not the other way around
Babe Says did you even read what I said
Yeah, it's normal to ask for the price, but it should be the last thing to discuss. Many people start with "how much for a medium sized tattoo?", and I can see why hearing that every day pisses artists off.
Reminds me of that family guy episode where he says
“I want a skull”
“I’m gonna do Kermit the frog”
“I want a skull”
“Eh I’m gonna do Kermit the frog”
The summary of the whole video
I totally forgot about that episode. Now I remember and holy crap that is the best comparison ever.
lmao i had to just go lool that up
Isn’t that the Big Bang theory?
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The guy at 7:25 was probably the worst about it.
If I go to a shop and I hear the artist say that, I'm walking away. No way I'm giving that person my money.
Ryan always articulates shit so honest but empathetically
Hypocrisy in this video.
"Asking for pricing is rude, waaah" what do they walk around a super market blindfolded?
Me: "Walks into car dealership" How much for this bmw?
Salesmen: Excuse me? If you came in with the intentions to buy a car, then why tf are you asking for the price?
Me: Umm, because I need to know if I can afford it.
How is this the same ?
How bout this then: take this gentleman's totally comprehendible example in your head and change car dealer to exterior house painter. So instead of a good it's a service that's being provided, just like tattoos. That should make it easier for you
@@ahein719 In which case, they can only give you an estimate. Same with tattoos. Until it's complete there's no way to know the exact cost.
When painting houses, which I've done, and with tattooing(which I have not done, and can only guess) issues can arise. Things can take an extra time, people can back out just before you begin or half-way through the process. Different painting companies or individual painters can be any combination of fast, slow, skilled or unskilled.
Only once the process is complete is it possible to know the final cost. It is a permanent part of you for the rest of your life, but most people complaining about the cost comments only use that in relation to the cost. If I'm putting something permanently on my body, I don't care what it costs(though they will happily give you a general idea). The important thing is that it's done in a style you like and from an artist you work well with whose work you enjoy.
If money is such an issue that you will end up going to a cheaper, less skilled artist, don't get any tattoo. Perhaps save your money for a while to afford the quality and look that you want.
You can negotiate on a car deal😂
Leon Max rt
I don't really see the issue with asking about the price, I want some dope artwork but I don't have $10k to blow on tattoo. I want to know a rough sort of price beforehand... Your gonna be more pissed when I say I can't afford it and just walk out.
Ze Germanz they’re talking about someone walking in from the street and wanting to know. Discussing a price after you have sent artwork and ideas over is standard practice but doing so with the artist having no idea what you want done, is idiotic
Even then they still won't give you an estimate.
A tattoo is not a need, but it is a luxury. If you can't afford the artist's work, then you should not get a tattoo.
That's bs. If someone saves for a tattoo they are allowed to get a tattoo. Tattoo artists don't make a lot per year. They should understand that not everyone can just drop 1k or more on spur of the moment but that doesn't mean they're too broke for or don't deserve to get a tattoo. So if artists don't want to quote a price range after it's drawn up, then I'm assuming they're pretentious af.
@@Max-dz2ux How do they know if they can afford it or not without a price? 😜
Hold up:
are they annoyed with us asking the TOTAL price of the finished tattoo
OR
their hourly rate? (which most artists have established & set in stone)
I think there’s a difference between asking “how much for..” and setting up a consultation with the artist and telling them you’re financial flexibility. Detail/size/color/attitude are all factors in price.
IF I WANT TO GET A TATTOO,
I WANT TO KNOW CAN I PAY FOR IT.
Leo Ohrnberg you clearly don’t have tattoos if you think people don’t arrange price AFTER the idea is discussed
You can get an hourly rate, but every single piece is different, the only pieces that have prices outright are flash.
Splitleaf Exactly, they will also give you a rough estimate on how long it will take them to do it. if you think that will be too much for you at the time then tell them you have to wait a little while
@@Starhung1 only one of them even mentioned about the design thing. The rest just acted like u can't ask until it's over. A lot of people have been commenting this so obviously a lot of people think they meant the same thing.
Starhung yes but an idea is discussed before you actually have to pay for it anyway (in most cases). Before you put needle to my skin, how much is this going to cost me? That's what they mean.
I am so glad my artist is a sweet person. I told her this was my first big piece and I wasn't well versed in how it works. I asked her if she charged for a consultation (which I always thought they did because it is time out of their day). I asked what she needed me to bring. I asked her how many sessions she thought it would be. And she answered everything with patience and knowledge. She even asked if I had a budget I wanted to keep into and she might be able to work with me. She may have talked shit when I left but at least she wasn't a bitch to my face.
That’s the one thing that bothers me as a person that get tattoos , we are asking the price to plan accordingly not because we are being rude if the artist says “ hey this will take a few sessions “ or this piece will be X amount . We want to know so we can have it ready when we come or if that person seeing if they can afford it.
I like artist that openly display their hourly rate. That way I don’t have to even ask or worry about them getting upset bc of it.
budget $2000
Me: -$670 deposit
Tattooer A: Ok here's the design I drew. The tattoo is going to be $5k
Me: I can't afford that.
Them: Bye
budget $1330
Me: -$670 deposit
Tattooer B: Ok here's the design I drew. The tattoo is going to be $2k
Me: I can't afford that.
Them: Bye
budget $660
Me: I can't afford a deposit. Can you give me a price range, so I can know how much I need to save?
Tattooer C: Jeez! What's with customers always concerned about the price? 🙄
Yeah I just kinda tell them my idea and then ask them about how much I will need to get it done so I can save. Price isn't the first question out of my mouth but usually the fourth or so.
Uhh thos prices are not in any way correct
Yeah, no shit. I was illustrating a point. That's also not actually my budget. SHOCKER!
Oskari Rintamäki wow... That point just sailed riiiiiiight over your head! It was like 🙌🏼 magic!
💫
Magic.
@@Snobbishbumpkin "even before the design" ok dear, tell me how the hell are you supposed to give a price range when you don't know what the fuck the client wants? 😀
They came across wrong and rude tbh, but I get what they were trying to say, I mean... how are you supposed to know how much are you gonna charge when you don't know what style the client wants, how much detail it's going to go in the design, where, when, the freaking size? that's when you know the client doesn't know what it wants and it's going to give you a hard time not liking your designs because he didn't bother doing research for an artist of it's liking and things can go potentially wrong because he doesn't understand how this process works and doesn't help you either, there it's not an specific price range for tattoos, every artist it's different and may charge you more or less, that's why you have to give them an specific design or direction (when given artistic freedom) to get a price range, I mean wtf...
The girl in the yellow hat and the girl with the black/purple were the only ones that didn’t come off as stuck up as hell
Thats because they were dudes before.
Tiziano L. How does that make it better? Guys are the worst
True
@@TitusAzzurro no you sexist asshole, that has nothing to do with it, the guys were the worst with costumer treatment.
Ben that girl in black seems dope
7:45 hell yeah, ain’t nobody in the right mind gonna walk into the parlor and be like “ahh do what you want bro”
Yah that dude is a mess.
Those last two at the end actually made sense! Thank God.
In this video, I learned that artists are not comfortable running a business. 🤷♀️
Oh, artists are never good at business. As an artist I know my limitations. My art is temporary (dance) and doesn't even go on someone else's body yet I do my best to make it like they want it.
@Fatter than I Look ide disagree with you about the money part... its like mechanics/custom car work, some have major success to the point of celebrity status but most are just avrage Joe status
Exactly!
How surprising.
😕😕😕😦😦😕 ehhh im speakless
I ask how much you charge so I can save up to get the damn tattoo 🙄
Pay a deposit aswell then
SOMEONE SAID IT! Not everyone is walking around with huge amounts of money at that specific moment in time.
Exactly
Right or maybe I didn’t bring enough and need to know if I have to get more
Nope youre just supposed to be rich lol
Glad everyone agrees that these guys are pretentious and egocentric.
Give me what I want within reason. Don’t add your stupid backgrounds and cliche designs
I feel like pricing is something important and needs to be talked about especially If I love the artist work. I’m currently in the process of getting my first commission piece and I asked him his price and he was more than okay to discus that with me! I even discussed certain things to possibly bring down the price, and respectfully he explained why it wouldn’t be a good idea. And at first I was shocked at the price but then I sat. thought about it. And now i’m more than willing to pay it and ima save my ass off for it. Because I can tell he liked my ideas and wanted to do this piece and make it unique and I fully trust him!
I mean if my tattoo artist said “oh shit” while tattooing me I’d be pretty freaked out
Depends on the tone... if he says” oh shiiiit 😏😏😏 “ Imma think he did an amazing tattoo.
But if he’s like “oh shit 🤭🙈”then I’d get worried
Jordinho Charles how about just not say oh shit at all when your putting permanent inking on someone
I had my artist say Oh shit n I asked em what happens n he said nothing my tatts still look bad ass thou
Righttt, like if your doctor said „oh shiiiit!!!“ during surgery you’d fucking freak out too
Lol I wouldn’t be worried about it have u seen his work amazing
I'm not 100% comfortable with leaving the design in the hands of the tattooer. If i want something specific and will have it forever I should be able to say no to your design and drawing.
^ I have said no and have had them get Pisssssssed lmao
Petr Vecera some shops around me have little designs in a gum ball machine and you pay like $50 and the design that comes out is what you get. I think it’s neat for people who are indecisive or brave. You can get a skull with flowers. Anchor, flower, etc. my friend got a flower tattoo and it came out badass. The artist picked out the color and he got a orange and red flower. It’s on the inside of his bicep. I might get one but I’m hesitant cause obviously what you get is what you get.
Normal tattoo artist's are not like this at least on the east coast. The people you see here are west coast liberials that make no sense. Don't ask for price, if it's not the way you want it oh well im the artist i want it my way. That is some delusional shit these so called "artists" in this video are on.
This is solely based on what the artwork is that you want done on your body. If you're trying to get a detailed tattoo on your finger, they might say how about your hand because it won't have enough detail on an area that small, or if the colour of what you want done won't set on your skin properly, the tattooer will want to modify it so it looks better instead of blending in with your skin.
Of course you can always say no, but then they are also free to say no to doing something that in their professional opinion will look like shit. This video is far too short and they don't elaborate at all, but I assume what they mean is: tattoo artists are not always able to do stuff exactly as you want it. If they suggest a COMPLETELY different object than the one you wanted (i.e. you wanted a bird, but they draw a lion. Except when it's a cover-up, because you can't do just anything over it), yeah, fuck those guys, but in my experience, artists don't recommend design level of detail, placement or size changes to fuck with the client, they're interested in making sure the stuff that comes out of their studio actually looks good. I assume they'd still do stuff they know will be bad on the condition of "I the customer am aware this intricate tiny design on my wrist will look like absolute shit in a year, sign here". But I assume any decent artist would just say no to ruining your skin. Just..listen to the artists, people. They know better what works than you do.
Also if I want a specific tattoo, it’s my body. It’s gonna be on me forever. If I don’t like your design I’m gonna reject you and go to someone who can do it.
The way I ask for prices, is I wait till after I’ve told them what I want and given references. I say, “can you give me an estimate pre tip you think this might cost, so I can set my money aside” it’s not asking for an exact price, and it lets them know you will tip. Also shows you’re more responsible with the money by setting it aside having it ready, so you’re less likely to back out.
Listen, you do NOT have complete artistic freedom when someone is paying you to work on THEIR body.
This!
Thanku. Cuz ur the one wearing for the rest of your life.😂😂😂
iEj you’re stupid and don’t know shit about tattoo industry
you want to do the tattoo yourself then?
1) Tattoos aren't for you. 2) Do it yourself.
Saying people shouldn’t ask how much the tattoo would be is utterly ridiculous. Unless you are very wealthy, a tattoo is a big expense and most people have to know a ballpark figure. It feels very elitist to say that you shouldn’t worry about how much it’s costs because it’s about the art.
Actually, depending on what you want, where you want it and the amount of detailing, it's not that expensive. Just depending on what one considers expensive.
IKR!!
I’ll always ask how much it’s going to cost first. Obviously giving details of what I want and size.
That way I know if I could afford to get it done or if I need to wait awhile and save.
"Don't ask how long it's gonna take" Uh sorry I have plans that I want to work around
"Don't ask how much it is" sorry that I wanna know if I can afford it
I understand them not wanting you to get a tattoo that won’t fit on that part of your body or not wanting to steal designs but sorry you can’t have 100% freedom on someone else’s body like are you out of your mind?!
Agreed! This vid made me cringe!
And your paying them to do whatever you want on your body
In my experience when getting tattooed giving the artist the freedom to do as they please always worked out better than having them do it exactly the way I think I want it. 10 times out of 10 you’ll end up with something way better than what you’ve imagined.
Ravin Strong that’s not what they said though. They all said to be open-minded and consider what the artist recommends because they’re the professionals. Not only that, but artists have different styles and strengths and weaknesses. If you bring in a design in a particular style and they’re telling you the style might not fit the body part or they’re not particularly good with that style, you shouldn’t be a dick about it
Well, 9 times out of 10. I gave my artist total freedom and she just copied the drawings I brought as ideas or added bad details. And it upsets me, because I´ve seen other works from her and she´s good, mostly when she´s given freedom. But I payed the price of her having a shitty day. At least it´s not bad, but it´s not good either, and the more I look at it, the more I like and dislike it at the same time.
How can you be annoyed at someone asking what you charge? That's stupid. No regular person goes to make a purchase without asking how much they need to pay for it 🤦🏾♀️😂
They are deluded and hyped up into believing they are something far grander than a phenomenal tattoo artist. It's like that in the arts; actors, singers, comedians, or musicians they think they're healing the sick or feeding the poor.
I was very fortunate that my brother in law is a tattoo artist and I asked him if he would be comfortable doing my first tattoo (as I didn't know etiquette if there was any, be prepared for lots of questions, I wanted it on my thigh, etc). He was super patient with me. I asked him about the price (because ofc I wanted to pay him even if he wanted to do it as a birthday present). He showed me some of the designs he's done of others, how long they took, what he did and the ballpark price those were and why he priced it that way. It took a bit of time to explain but it really helped, I was able to afford my tattoo and how to prepare for my session.
When you say "Oh, shit." while tattooing someone, their going to think you messed up on something that is PERMANENTLY ON THEIR SKIN!! Dont mind cussing, but seriously dude.
This whole price thing really bothers me because in the video most of the artists were saying it makes them feel like the customers don’t really want their artwork just what they want for the cheapest price possible, and I understand where they are coming from. But then you have people like me who genuinely love the art of the artist and would love them to create a piece for you and it wouldn’t bother me if my piece was expensive. I wouldn’t mind paying for it. But I need to know at least some kind of a range because I want to be prepared I don’t wanna walk with 300 dollars and get a 500 dollar tattoo and then not have a way to pay for the rest of it. Like how do you ask something like that without it coming off as cheap
thats the way i approach my artist (only been to one for all my work)
i talk to him about my idea, how big or what sort of space he can work with IE my full back piece ive started and he quoted 3 full day sessions
the shop has a set price on full day sessions so i just saved up enough for all 3 plus extra
Right? Like, I save up because I want a good tattoo, but I can't afford suddenly having a 1,000 bill when I expected to pay between 300-400, and only have that much saved.
I'm not trying to be cheap or haggle, I just want to know before the ink is going down, reassurance that I won't be trapped at the parlor with a bill I can't pay.
When I got my most recent tattoo by the amazing Jessie Coccia, I went in, and I told her how much money I had available for the tattoo. She said she would do the tattoo for a more reasonable amount because she just really liked my story and idea.
You have to remember that these are artists. We see the world in a whole different way. Everything to us is beautiful and there is something to be learned from every situation. We aren’t price reliant, we just want to put ourselves out there
I got a tattoo today and I almost asked how long we had to go. It was getting extremely painful and I was struggling heaps and heaps (first tattoo) but I kept my mouth shut and sucked it up
Why is everyone talking like their artwork is a gift sent from God? It's a tattoo, we need to know the price, I don't wanna spend 500$ for a small sized tattoo. + WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY TO GET FROM ATM
Being an artist is a gift. look at the wonderful work Goya, Van Gough, Dali etc etc did. The difference is these tattoo 'artists' aren't artists, they are just bloody good at drawing and there's a huge difference. If they were artists, then they wouldn't be tattooing, they'd be making art!!
First Surname has nothing to do with america you fuckwit. obviously you’ve never gotten one because these people act nothing like regular tattoo artists. these people are self righteous pricks that think too highly of themselves.
Right? Like most places only take cash which means we really need to know the price.
It shouldn’t bother them when the CLiENT asks for a price. In the end, it’s a business transaction.
I get artists don't want to get asked about prices, but the customer has to know a rough estimate. I've got a lot of tattoos myself and I always ask how much it'll be just so I can prepare. Of course explaining your ideas, part of the body and size should come first, however, a customer needs to know how much that'd cost at the most (meaning having to do design changes on the day of your appointment, etc). You book in with an artist months beforehand, like, I need to plan my finances xD of course I've never haggled at all. The price I got told, I paid + tips. But as a customer, a rough estimate is really appreciated. Do I need 200€ or 600€? There's a difference. Especially for people who've never had any work done or go to a new artist or have always got small tattoos and get their first larger piece.
I agree with 3:40. My recent tattoo is a skull with roses and I wanted to get it on my hand and my design was small. When I showed my artist, he suggested it should be on my arm instead and omg it's absolutely gorgeous! It's bigger than the original idea too! So colorful too ❤️ it was a tribute Tattoo for my mom. She loved skulls and gothic things
Ok, so I'm supposed to give the artist a general concept of what I want, not be picky if the artist wants to put something in it that I dont like, not ask how much it will cost, not have any input on where it goes on my body, but wear it proudly for the rest of my life...
Did, at any point, any of these people stop to think that are working for the customer? If they want to draw a design however they please, do it on your own time. I'm open to your input but *I* have the final say so on my body art
Ha ha for real.
like Yea they may be artists, but they work in the service industry. some of these people are total assholes
"The last thing you want to do is piss off your tattoo artist."
Some of these guys have their heads so high up in the air, they are dilusional. They act like they were gods. Absolutely pretentious.
I can agree with most of their frustrations.
Tattoos function differently from drawings on paper and stretch and distort depending on the area, and I heard they're supposed follow the muscle groups they're wrapping around. And there's all kinds of stuff about areas that fade quickly and areas that age differently, so I'd consider that as some reasons why allowing them the freedom to draw a design according to their expertise would be a win for the customer in the end.
The other one is that if you can find one with a specific style that really appeals to you, then you can tell them the subject matter and expect them to make a design you'll love. But if you tell the artist every detail of how it's supposed to look then you might as well have drawn the design yourself and found a really cheap artist who'll only need to replicate it exactly.
If you went through the trouble of getting a tattoo you like, and then want to change it the moment someone else doesn't approve, I can see why that would be frustrating for the tattooist.
Clients who ask for revisions again and again because they don't know what they want, all they know is they want perfection which doesn't exist - those would be a black hole for time and money.
Asking for a price? I'm with everyone else on that, of course people need at least an idea. Expecting someone to get a tattoo without knowing what they'll need to pay is ridiculous.
@@morgantorium In this video they don't specifically talk about "letting the artist the freedom when it comes to the placement of the tattoo". Cause sure, he knows better where and in which size stuff might work or look good and that's a reasonable point to listen to his opinion.
The idea I get from this video, is that the artists want to change the design itself so much, that it suits their style, so they feel comfortable doing it, have fun doing it and aren't annoyed while doing it. And that's just asshole behaviour. If a customer has a design in mind he wants in a specific style, with certain lines for certain reasons, the artist should be that flexible and professional to be at least able to recreate the design, or tell the customer that he doesn't do "style xy" and he should go elsewhere.
Wanting the customer to have to adapt to the free rambling of the artist, not knowing what one will eventually get and if one will like it, is a 100% no go for me. I would never trust anybody in my whole life that much to give him that much freedom of permanent changes over my body.
And sure, I have to like the artist's style. But still I want the exact same design I planned on. I have to live with that thing on my body for the rest of my life.
I love how Brendon Urie is in the thumbnail
Killjøy it’s clickbait. He’s not even involved at all
Killjøy hi fellow trash
that's exactly why i clicked
That's why I clicked..
why i’m here
Just sit down and find out how much I want to charge for my masterpiece once it’s done.
One thing I don’t agree with is that just because you’re a great artist, doesn’t make your ideas great. There are a million musicians who are great at their instrument, but can’t write their own songs. (Not all)
I think what most of the artists mean is that you need to trust them on things like size and placement. You can’t get things too small because the ink will expand after healing, some pieces don’t look great on certain parts of the body because movement will warp the piece and it will only look good at a certain angle, and a lot of white highlights will yellow-especially due to sun exposure, etc, etc. I understand someone not appreciating the work you’ve drawn up for them, as I’m an artist myself working to become a tattooist, but this person is going through hours of pain and a lot of money for something they will have on their body forever. A client should be familiar with their artists work enough to except the style they will end up having but average clients need to have their artist explain to them why their idea may not work. To avoid having to change everything multiple times, I usually do a very quick sketch and show my client where I’m placing their ideas on the drawing so we can negotiate in the beginning stages of my custom work. Most clients are also not flush with money walking into the store looking to shop around, especially if you are not working from a street shop, they need to know the price after they talk about their concept with the artist. Shops get lots and lots of rude customers who only care about the price, and I get that, but your clients need to know a price range for the consultation, custom artwork, hours, products, etc they have to pay for. It’s just plain customer service and the artist and the client will be happier with their work in the end.
*goes to McDonald's*
*Asks how much a big mac is*
Worker:how dare you
for tattoo shops it's more like walking into McDonald's and asking how much for a burger
so you want the big mac or do you want the price? 😤
@@helloleesh you never customize your burger?
@@helloleesh yeah I just ask my sugar daddy to buy me things duh
@@helloleesh lmao im a guy and i don't have a sugar daddy