All about the Taurozzi Pendulum Engine | Advantages, Working Principle, and Performance (100144.V1)

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  • @Danger_mouse
    @Danger_mouse Год назад +157

    I would say, from a commercial standpoint, that any advantage of the 'low friction piston' would be offset by the difficult to machine bores, the balancing issues of the curved piston arms, connecting rods and crank all working in different planes, and it the extra reciprocating mass involved.
    Most modern engines have tiny pistons, with virtually no skirt on them, just a small pad with Teflon on it.

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 Год назад +9

      Machining it is no more difficult than a linear type. The secondary balance issue is where it goes all willy nilly.

    • @Danger_mouse
      @Danger_mouse Год назад +17

      @@ejrupp9555 I beg to differ on the machining also.
      How do you machine a smooth finish on a curved bore and hone it suitable for piston ring sealing easily?
      Certainly going to be more difficult/expensive than a cylindrical bore.

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 Год назад +1

      @@Danger_mouse A fly cutter on a rotating assembly indexed on the very pin that the piston rotates and Bob's your uncle. The shape of the cutter just needs to match the curve of the radius. The term you were looking for is "more expensive". Blocks are cast close to the final dimensions (lost foam/sand cast) and the cutters are cleaning up to final specs. And remember he already built it on his own when there were less precise tools available. CNC fixtures do insane things these days.
      The issue with the layout is primary and secondary balance. The required counter balancing features eat up the efficiencies. And with out them, the life of the engine is suspect. Look up "Driving 4 Answers" www.youtube.com/@d4a/search?query=secondary%20balance

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 Год назад

      @@Danger_mouse I was recommended this video after i watched that one ---> ruclips.net/video/gwtZkHoVMso/видео.html

    • @kevinburke6743
      @kevinburke6743 Год назад +2

      @@ejrupp9555 If you put to engine together one on top of the other, where the spark plugs would be. Then you could put 20spark plugs through the wall of the torus! Yes you would have 2 crankshafts with gear on that would mate with a common idler gear that drives the out put shaft which would be on centre. This would get rid of some of the balance issues & double the power of the engine! Obviously it would have to be a Reed Valved crank compression, exhaust side ported 2 stroke!

  • @paultruesdale7680
    @paultruesdale7680 Год назад +10

    Almost every viable idea using piston engines has been tested already, but the claim of 30 percent reduction in friction if true would be phenomenal in racing engines and saving fuel.
    Great video.
    👍

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 11 месяцев назад +1

      proved, in compressors

    • @We-Do-NOT-Consent-303
      @We-Do-NOT-Consent-303 10 месяцев назад +1

      There is no way this produces 30% more efficiency!

    • @rickwilliams967
      @rickwilliams967 7 месяцев назад

      That's a really dumb thing to say. This is probably as dumb as it looks, but if you think that every idea has been tried, you're a fucking idiot.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 6 месяцев назад

      Except its a complete LIE

  • @T..C..M
    @T..C..M Год назад +7

    I wonder if this has benefits from the geometry the way an offset crank does? The original Prius had an offset crank which made the piston reach top dead center when the crank pin is already a little bit past the typical TDC which is straight up. When the power stroke happens, the crank is at an ideal leverage point to maximize torque output, instead of the maximum force being wasted pushing a crank pin straight down and trying to pry the crank away from the block. This design could go even farther.

  • @montana1636
    @montana1636 Год назад +31

    It eliminates lateral forces on the wrist pin, piston to cylinder wall friction, piston slap, heavy bore wear, power loss due to any of the latter…

    • @wvision1433
      @wvision1433 Год назад +6

      this technology would be very good in 2 stroke engines, after all it basically reduces the need for lubrication in certain parts

    • @trappenweisseguy27
      @trappenweisseguy27 Год назад +5

      With double or triple the reciprocating mass 😳.

    • @scottm7341
      @scottm7341 Год назад

      More than offset by the extra mass and the cost of building it.

    • @unclereefer37
      @unclereefer37 Год назад +1

      thus can be easily made out of carbon fiber as the load paths are simplified

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 11 месяцев назад

      @@wvision1433 the designer made a smokeless 2 stroke go kart engine

  • @tedgaida156
    @tedgaida156 Год назад +24

    The weight and inertia of the bent seem to have been overlooked.

    • @trappenweisseguy27
      @trappenweisseguy27 Год назад +2

      Yes, looks like double to triple the reciprocating mass.

  • @gubbah
    @gubbah Год назад +22

    How do they bore and hone a curved cylinder?

    • @ian9toes
      @ian9toes Год назад +1

      I’m thinking out loud here. Maybe it could be cast close, and then some sort of rotating tool is placed where the piston goes to guarantee it follows the correct curve.

    • @ShaunHensley
      @ShaunHensley Год назад +1

      Why would they need to? There is no side loading on the cylinder. Only a very light piston ring seal.

    • @chrisjarvis4449
      @chrisjarvis4449 Год назад

      a ball hone ! hone hell how would you rebore it ?

    • @unclereefer37
      @unclereefer37 Год назад +1

      get one of those curved drill bits

  • @largelarry2126
    @largelarry2126 Год назад +5

    If you look close you at 4:02 you can see that the connecting rod is crossing over and into the bottom portion of the cylinder wall. This is a no go because the rings will be open to the crankcase and the oil. Over time the rings will become covered with crusty oil not allowing them to seal, plus you will have blow-by into the crankcase. Also you will be adding huge amount of reciprocating mass thus increasing stress at higher RPMs and keeping the motor from revving very high. I think you would be much better off with a conventional set-up using a large bore and short piston, long rod and a short through on the crank. His principle might make a good diesel engine.

    • @nesyboi9421
      @nesyboi9421 Месяц назад

      It did make a good diesel engine, there are a couple companies that use them in diesel generators.

  • @JorgeAriel.S.
    @JorgeAriel.S. Год назад +7

    GENIOO ! OJALA SE DEN CUENTA DE QUE ESTA SIMPLE MODIFICACION LES DA VIDA Y POTENCIA AL MOTOR( IGUAL QUE LOS VALANCINES DE DUCATI)

  • @RANDOMNATION907
    @RANDOMNATION907 Год назад +29

    I think this high torque/low rpm design would be best suited as a stationary power source for temporary or emergency electrical generation or to operate a pump of some kind. Maybe to alleviate flooding. It's reduced requirement for cooling and lubrication _Could_ allow it to sit dormant for extended periods of time. I think it will have it's place, just not in transportation.

    • @judgejimbobrowntown3214
      @judgejimbobrowntown3214 Год назад +7

      Or you could compact it and install in a bike

    • @JoshuaAlbretsen-bf3di
      @JoshuaAlbretsen-bf3di Год назад

      I don't think that engine will work for heavy-duty trucks. From the look of it, it doesn't have enough mass inside the crankshaft to keep the intera force motion going.

    • @carlosandresparra9306
      @carlosandresparra9306 Год назад

      Why do you say its low rpm?

  • @JohnKickboxing
    @JohnKickboxing Год назад +126

    The combustion chamber is difficult to manufacture.

    • @mistergreeen
      @mistergreeen Год назад +13

      I feel like the metal 3d printers they use to make rocket parts could crank them out

    • @dennis-nz5im
      @dennis-nz5im Год назад +3

      @@mistergreeen I think due to size and weight, CG , and two stroke capacity, it’s ideal for ships , would do away with the sliding block con rod and lower height. A 16 cylinder v ?

    • @alcord2540
      @alcord2540 Год назад +9

      Agreed.Very difficult to produce the curved bore with conventional machinery.

    • @Jellyflesh
      @Jellyflesh Год назад +36

      Its not complicated at all with conventional machinery. How did Taurozzi make it if it was so difficult?

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад +3

      Makes me wonder how he made this thing back then.

  • @johny79action
    @johny79action Год назад +3

    @4:05 you animation shows the Con rod passing through the cylinder wall higher than the piston rings will drop too LOL.

  • @jacksparro3150
    @jacksparro3150 Год назад +2

    This engine fits well inside a museum.

  • @marekrawluk
    @marekrawluk Год назад +6

    There are some other solutions a bit better than this engine, like double piston (first is so called fire-piston, and second is a guide-piston) or another solution: shifted crankshaft - both significantly reducing piston-to-cylinder friction. Next, as mentioned at the end (why not earlier, when they were explaining lower mass of the piston?) mass, inertia of rotating parts is not smaller than in any other commercial engine! Additional curved guide arm compensates (in negative meaning) lower mass of the piston! Plus vibrations (a need to use something like Lanchester balancer).
    An interesting design, still with some drawbacks which make it not so impressive and not better than "a regular solutions".
    I always smile when I see a comparison to any "regular engine" or a commercial when efficiency of washing powder is compared to "a regular, normal washing powder"

  • @RobertBeck-pp2ru
    @RobertBeck-pp2ru Год назад +3

    How does one machine the curved cylinder bore with any degree of accuracy? How is the weight of that massive curved connecting rod balanced? What keeps the motor from shaking itself to pieces at 3500 rpm or higher? This a no-go concept for typical transportation vehicles.

  • @marcalampi5036
    @marcalampi5036 Год назад +14

    Mazda had a variable compression engine that had an arm like this although a different mechanism and shape. Which I feel proved superior. Also there are counter balanced engines that have an arm much like Suzuki's New parallel twin 775cc engine, which balances the engine for smoothness although not perfect it's better and it's a more torquey engine having a longer stroke and smaller bore than it's competitor the Honda hornet 755cc. Which is a typical over square higher revving. I believe this engine is the typical give and take and not overly practical in terms of size Mass weight and production costs. Over all the answer is already out there and I don't believe big oil is only one reason it's not a popularized engine design.

    • @kingcosworth2643
      @kingcosworth2643 Год назад

      The variable comp engine I'm thinking of had a two piece engine block and a connecting rod and eccentric shaft tying them together.

    • @Rose_Butterfly98
      @Rose_Butterfly98 Год назад

      @@kingcosworth2643 like the Infiniti one?

    • @0devast8r0
      @0devast8r0 Год назад +1

      @@Rose_Butterfly98 I think he meant Infiniti. Infiniti Variable compression engine has more moving parts meaning more shit to break and it looks hard to replace all those parts. Looks good on paper but seems very unconventional and expensive.

  • @FabianoZanon
    @FabianoZanon Год назад +15

    AWESOME!!
    I have two engines concept, since 2004 at the University.
    One with rotor.
    Other with pistons and "crankshaft" but no rods.

    • @markcollard9326
      @markcollard9326 Год назад

      amazing

    • @kalmmonke5037
      @kalmmonke5037 Год назад

      hydrallic crankshaft?

    • @FabianoZanon
      @FabianoZanon Год назад

      @@kalmmonke5037 Hi! Not hydraulic... mechanical but using a very old mechanical concept. I´m mounting the new prototype for bench test. I can´t give more details because no one use it until today. It will put internal combustion engines in other level, with higher mechanical efficience, having maximum torque from th iddle to the higher RPM the engine can rev.

    • @familygoodall2200
      @familygoodall2200 Год назад

      Offset crankshaft in i934 Chevrolet 4 cylinder car. We had one!
      What happened to the Marshall rotary engine with no seal problem and almost no friction ?

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 6 месяцев назад

      If you think this is a great idea try thinking again

  • @jusjetz
    @jusjetz 8 месяцев назад +1

    Corporate Greed Did em IN!

  • @r.nicolasmoralesdelavega8705
    @r.nicolasmoralesdelavega8705 10 месяцев назад +1

    Si en Argentina Eduardo Taurozzi ..ahún a sus 80 años espera su reconocimiento si es posible en vida ...ya que cuando tenia 40 años lo patententó ...y ahora esta libre la patente de intento de este motor genial ¡¡¡¡¡

  • @Bob_Adkins
    @Bob_Adkins Год назад +9

    The inefficient indirect rod-to-crankshaft force in conventional engines is still there. The reciprocating and rotating masses are significantly greater than a standard engine. The curved bores are very hard to machine, though may not require great precision with a skirtless piston.

    • @snorttroll4379
      @snorttroll4379 Год назад

      curved bores are not very hard. they are just different, you teenager or buffoon. you save weight on the curve system. and you save a lot of oil .

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 11 месяцев назад

      replace the piston with a boring tool and there you have it, curved bore

  • @richardbell7678
    @richardbell7678 Год назад +7

    The problem is that toroids are hard to machine. When the issues of machining the toroidal cylinders are beaten, they will see greater use. The pendulum pistons with their toroidal cylinders, in medical gas compressors, are less of an issue as medically rating the equipment adds to the overall costs, anyways, so machining the cylinders is less of an issue.

    • @STARDRIVE
      @STARDRIVE Год назад

      To reduce friction from the piston rings, my approach was to create a 2-stroke instead of a 4-stroke, refreshing the air at BDC. Inject fuel on the way up, and introduce a spark.
      I quickly found these already existed in the 60´s, but were oils burners. (They didn´t run on a fuel-oil mix, but the ¨valves¨ were mere holes in the cylinder wall at BDC. So crank case oil splashed into the exhaust ports half the time.)
      Cutting the friction in half once more, requires a 1-stroke engine. That means every stroke is a power stroke.
      One can stick a single piston in a bore to do so, having a head on each side. But then there´s no room for a power take off (pushrod).
      However if the piston is elongated and shaped like a bell bar (weight lifting), there´s room in the middle for a power take off. The cylinder wall would be breached in the middle, but the stroke never gets that far.
      Although this appears like 2 pistons, being one cast means the piston(s) cannot tilt, and thus need less rings.
      It does need 2 counter rotating balance wheels to keep it from shaking apart, but these double as flywheels.
      TL;DR it gives you the benefit of this pendulum engine, whilst having a straight bore.

    • @MondayMorning-yv7nf
      @MondayMorning-yv7nf Год назад +1

      That's the reason why they just show animations...... but never the actual machined components.

    • @brucesweatman2146
      @brucesweatman2146 Год назад

      DUDE! A six-axis boring machine can do that standing on its head? why there is not a big push into this design is easy. because of electric vehicles coming up once charging times are solved then the fossil-fueled engine will go the way of the steam engine, which worked in its time but is now passed up by tech. there are batteries out there that have no cycle life and are pure lithium batteries. if there is no cycle life on a battery that means you can recharge it ...FOREVER! SO THAT SUPPLY BULLSHIT TEAR UP FOR THE MATERIALS WILL END REAL QUICK OLD BATTRIES MATERIALS CAN BE RECYCLED INTO THES NEW TYPE OF BATTRIES, THUS REDUCING THE SUPPLY DEMAND. ONCE BUILD AND PASS q.c.? THEN THERE IS GOOD FOR LIFE OR MAYBE EVEN GENERATIONAL AS WELL? NOW THAT IS SOLVED, CHARGING ON THE FLY IS NEXT, ONCE THAT IS DONE, BARRING ANY FAILURES THE SYSTEM RUNS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. DOES NOT POLLUTE AT ALL. AND CAN BE TOTALLY RECYCLED, SO THAT IS WHY THERE ARE NO NEW FOSSIL FUEL ENGINES TO BE COMING OUT ANYTIME SOON. WHY WOULD ANYONE REALLY NEED ONE WITH THIS COMING ALONG JUST NICELY?

    • @stevecummins324
      @stevecummins324 Год назад

      @@brucesweatman2146it wouldn't be particularly difficult to machine it on a lathe with a boring bar.
      Rather than bolting it directly to lathe cross feed. One would bolt a pin to the cross feed, and then slot the engine over the pin via the the piston arm pivot point. Then the engine is just rocked back and forth to cut the bore.
      There might be some theoretical argument the bore will end up a tiny bit out of round... However the piston doesn't rotate in the bore, so mechanically there's no problem.

    • @brucesweatman2146
      @brucesweatman2146 Год назад

      @@stevecummins324 Dude you use a bridgeport with a changing arch boring table? or if you want it done in an hour use a 5-axis boring machine real easy. to hold any line or degree you would not be using any lathe?

  • @Initial-B
    @Initial-B Год назад +7

    I wonder how much more (or less) torque it makes? It looks like the piston is pushing more along the centerline of the rod when the rod/crank angle is at 90deg.

    • @yezzamouad9469
      @yezzamouad9469 Год назад +1

      Excellent remark, in deed with a curved piston path it will follow the rotation mouvement of the crankshaft for much longer (15 to 25°) compared lo liniair motion of the conventionnel piston, and with the right angle applied to it for much longer, you can extract a lot more usefull work out of the combustion,
      I'm guessing around 10_15% more tork

  • @andrespianta8557
    @andrespianta8557 Год назад +2

    I red about this concept in a magazine from my university here in Argentina about 45 years ago. I know the compressor is under manufacturing, but as far as I know sadly non of the automative companies have been interested in his design.

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 6 месяцев назад

      Because it has zero advantage and a lot of downsides

    • @andrespianta8557
      @andrespianta8557 6 месяцев назад

      @gowdsake7103 not at all, the compressors were yet in production and as far as I know with no major problems, anyway it was a try done many years ago.

  • @novusbuildcraft1400
    @novusbuildcraft1400 Год назад +2

    Cost to manufacture and service would be too difficult for this to ever become a reality

  • @nigelhill8811
    @nigelhill8811 Год назад +1

    Couple a quite small one of these engines into an electric car and run it on Hydrogen! I would buy one tomorrow, no today. Magic 😊

  • @ralphslack1104
    @ralphslack1104 Год назад +4

    How about some details of how they have manufactured the cylinder block which looks like it's main manufacturing downfall. Making a round hole in one plain is relatively easy, an accurate curved bore, how?

    • @hoodedcreeper2465
      @hoodedcreeper2465 Год назад +1

      My thought is you could make a spherical bit to bore the hole out and make a pendulum that it's attached to.

  • @diytwoincollege7079
    @diytwoincollege7079 Год назад +1

    Producing an engine with a potential problem is not a problem for the auto industry. Eco boost?

  • @brahardianto2000-y1g
    @brahardianto2000-y1g 10 дней назад +1

    How to create that curved piston liner? It must be with super precision metal casting? Or diasil diecast methode?

  • @dragonskinstudio
    @dragonskinstudio Год назад +1

    Never seen this before. Cheers

  • @HarmonicResearch
    @HarmonicResearch Год назад +14

    The increased mass of the swing arm would more than cancel out any efficiency increase due to less side load on the pistons. This engine would never make the high RPMs of a modern piston engine because of the reciprocating mass of the swing arm. It might work for a low RPM diesel engine, but why would you need the extra complexity of the swing arm to eliminate frictional losses when the diesel fuel lubricates the cylinder walls to reduce friction?

    • @AngelAndTheWolf
      @AngelAndTheWolf Год назад

      Exactly! Twin offset crankshafts with half weight piston rods would eliminate side thrust and piston skirts, and provide a more direct down pressure on intake and power strokes. Build it as an Opposed Piston design, with two pistons in one cylinder, cut the strokes in half, and get twice the RPM (HP).

    • @marekrawluk
      @marekrawluk Год назад

      I mentioned in my separate comment - a need to use something like Lanchester balancer

  • @Mr9Guns
    @Mr9Guns Год назад +2

    conventional cylinders with offset combustion chambers gain much of what this design does for reducing friction but are far easier to manufacture. I think that's the main factor. They get probably 60-80% of the gain you would with this setup without the significant manufacturing difficulties or balancing questions.

    • @Paulo-pi8sn
      @Paulo-pi8sn 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah. I agree. Mass producing these cilinders isn't viable unfortunately.

  • @luquiacha
    @luquiacha Год назад

    Talento Argentino. Me da mucho orgullo

  • @diyfireking
    @diyfireking Год назад

    Nice video 👍👍

  • @johnkucik1833
    @johnkucik1833 Месяц назад

    I wish the inventor & his team all the best , that is a great distinctive power plant , and is worthy of proper research & development, towards a prototype # 2 stage & then
    Production 🤔👍👌🤞🥃

  • @yezzamouad9469
    @yezzamouad9469 Год назад +4

    30 % ? A little too much don't you think ?
    Piston friction in the cylinder account for approximately 20% of all losses in an engine , so even if you came to eliminate them all, you will see theoraticelly a maximum of 20% less losses, in the best cases 10% reduction in fuel consumption.
    All thought, an amazing idea

    • @santiagoarribasclar3316
      @santiagoarribasclar3316 Год назад

      actually depends on the engine but most of them have higher than 20% losses from ring friction some even go up to 50%

    • @santiagoarribasclar3316
      @santiagoarribasclar3316 Год назад

      @Silver Dream Machine i wouldn't think so but i wanted to make a prototype of this engine for years, still can't find anyone who knows how to make curved cilinders on iron, but i think maybe it could be made in some sort of really precise iron casting mold, still they make the compressors in mass it doesn't make much sense to me

    • @collintheiss3945
      @collintheiss3945 Год назад +4

      @@santiagoarribasclar3316 The cylinders are drilled with a flat disc drill. The clinderblock is fixed on the rotation axis witch is later used from the pstons. Now you can drill the cylinders, the feed for drilling is the angle around the piston rotation axis. No CNC control required. Hope it is understandable and helps.
      Would be happ to see your results!

    • @yezzamouad9469
      @yezzamouad9469 Год назад

      @Silver Dream Machine actually, it needs a balancer shaft as well cuz u can't balance a rotating motion with a reciprocating one, it will be smaller though, i think

    • @maddhatter3564
      @maddhatter3564 Год назад +1

      this is a pie-in-the-sky novelty engine, no room for logical thinking here.

  • @tyhawkins7757
    @tyhawkins7757 Год назад +1

    How do you machine the cylinders?

  • @johneverett3947
    @johneverett3947 Год назад +2

    Wouldn’t the piston skirts, even though shorter than conventional pistons, have to be curved to match the inner and outer radius of the curved cylinder and taper to flat at perpendicular to the curve of the cylinder to maintain tight enough tolerances for the piston rings to seal?

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 Год назад

      Yes, and drilling out a toroidal engine is easy with curved drill bits (that's a joke), which makes this the most complicated machining task possibly on the face of the planet for conventional tools. Its obvious why its not popular when jet engines are probably easier to machine than this thing...

  • @sidneydawe9937
    @sidneydawe9937 Год назад

    I have an article about the British Tri-Dyne engine featured in the July 1969 Popular Science magazine. At 350cc (21.35 cu. inch), weighing 135 pounds it delivers 90 hp. It is a true rotary engine since it does not turn eccentrically like a Wankel engine. Also it requires no seals which was a problem with the Wankel.
    Designed by British inventer John Marshall the Tri-Dyne engine has 3 moving parts turning up to 12,000 rpm plus. It is more compact than the coventional automobile engine and would be ideal in aviation applications.

  • @exzentrische
    @exzentrische Год назад

    If there is a will. There is a way. In this motor pistons have no pressure to the cylinder wall, like it is in common motors, where pistons "want to go outside of the cylinder wall". So that is why all the pistons friction has been eliminated in Taurozzi Pendulum Engine. That means more power from same amount of gasoline, and longer lifetime of the engine. Usually in common motors cylinder walls worn out out of tolerance because pistons can freely rest to the cylinder wall without any extra support. So pistons and piston rings take cylinder wall bit by bit. When time goes on cylinders are slowly getting oval shape. In Taurozzi engine pistons do not rest in cylinder wall, because pistons have that extra support arm, that guides pistons way all the way thru cylinder.

  • @gideonlapidus8996
    @gideonlapidus8996 Год назад +2

    I love this engineering concept

  • @waynegarfield6607
    @waynegarfield6607 Год назад +4

    I dont see how the piston being smaller and lighter is why that is a benefit....when the additional weight of the banana shaped Guide rod has mass of its own that is part of the piston and recipricates with it.

    • @roxasparks
      @roxasparks Год назад

      Less mass to move, more bang for your buck literally. The banana only helps the motion and also due to less friction more bang for the buck

  • @Victor-056
    @Victor-056 Год назад

    Funnily enough, when I saw the Toronzi's "Boxer" Format, I was bought to mind of the TS3 "Commer Knocker", an Opposed Pistol Design designed by the Rootes company, that utilized a singular Crankshaft and six pistons in a Three Cylinder format.
    The company that made it actually planned for a Four Cylinder version known as TS4, which had boasted increased fuel efficency, lesser emissions and more power, but the Chryslar company bought out the small company before the TS4 could enter mass production, and ordered all schematics, Plans and models of the TS4 to be destroyed, only four functional TS4 Engines escaping destruction thanks to their designers managing to smuggle them out.

    • @martin-vv9lf
      @martin-vv9lf Год назад

      Indeed, I also thought of the taurozzi pendulum engine being a good candidate for an opposed piston. this is because you would only need one crankshaft and the reciprocating linkages have less moving parts when they move in an arc. perhaps engine balance would benefit too.

  • @marcoaureliomorgado4794
    @marcoaureliomorgado4794 Год назад

    In my opinion, the best way to optimize and simplify the design of the Taurozzi engine would be to replace the complex system made up of the "rod-banana guide" set, together with the connecting rod and crankshaft, by a double curved chainring, like a curved fork, which could be welded to the base of the piston with a semi-toothed gearing knob coupled to the rack gear.
    This would substantially reduce the moment of inertia and consequently increase energy efficiency, decrease fuel consumption and increase power without significant changes in torque and further reduce friction.

  • @FairladyS130
    @FairladyS130 Год назад +2

    Modern conventional engines reduce piston friction by offsetting the bores in relation to the crankshaft, something that you did not mention. It seems like the only advantage of this engine is reduced piston friction but it has additional load with that curved lever. And that curved bore would be more expensive to manufacture. Nice idea but nah.

  • @danpatterson8009
    @danpatterson8009 Год назад

    Side loading of the piston in a conventional engine can be reduced by lengthening the rod. This increases its mass but also makes the engine more geometrically efficient. It's a trade-off, like everything else.
    No mention is made of the energy required to shove the pendulum back and forth- since it obviously will be doing it at far higher than its natural swinging frequency. Machining the block will be an expensive nightmare, and the piston itself will have to be curved along its axis so that it does not rock back and forth in the bore.

  • @DobleWhiteAndStabley
    @DobleWhiteAndStabley Год назад +1

    I do like this engine. Manufacturing it will be very difficult. I can machine a conventional engine easily enough. This thing's cylinder walls will be tough...

  • @murraymadness4674
    @murraymadness4674 Год назад

    If you just increase the rod and stroke you can reduce the friction, it just reduces peak rpm, but diesels are designed this way since they are limited to low rpm.

  • @KevinArmstrong4154
    @KevinArmstrong4154 Год назад

    How do they machine the bores? And are balance shafts needed, as reciprocating mass is greater with the banana levers?

  • @chrisbiro1
    @chrisbiro1 Год назад +3

    Combine this with an offset piston and this could produce an amazing engine, though very complicated to produce.

    • @brucesweatman2146
      @brucesweatman2146 Год назад

      oNCE THE MATH IS DONE AND PART OF MAKING WILL BE THE LONG RUN/ MAKE DIE CASTS FOR HIGH-PRESSURE INJECTION OF THE ROUGH PART THAN MACHINE FINISHED ID CHEAPER SINCE MACHINES CAN DO 98 PERCENT OF THE WORK at the SAME RATE SAME SCALE, AN SAME LEVEL at EVERY SINGLE TIME, NOT LIKE A HUMAN WORKER, WHO UNLIKE A MACHINE CAN HAVE BAD HAIR DAY?

  • @mmenjic
    @mmenjic Год назад

    4:12 you may reduce friction on the wall there but in reality you just moved the friction from the wall to that second crank arm bearing.

  • @DANTHETUBEMAN
    @DANTHETUBEMAN Год назад

    you added another conecting rodd
    your going backwards to solve a imagionary problem
    and for what gains over my sbc?

  • @mattschwensen9562
    @mattschwensen9562 Год назад +1

    The increased weight attached to the reciprocating arm ie: the conrod would severely hamper this design.
    Very interesting though

  • @greggabuchi9917
    @greggabuchi9917 Год назад

    Do you 3d print the cylinder or torus?/ Bcos it has to be very smooth surface. What cnc machine was used to bore this?

  • @rickwilliams967
    @rickwilliams967 7 месяцев назад +1

    How long does it last though?

  • @williamgwyntreharne9966
    @williamgwyntreharne9966 Год назад +1

    Why has not the ellipsoidal crankshaft been put into production? Lack of balance ? Difficult to machine ?

  • @barryminbiole6199
    @barryminbiole6199 10 месяцев назад

    Can this be arranged for opposed piston travel? Any benefits?

  • @littlediablo
    @littlediablo Год назад +2

    Amazing. Thought I was across most engine configurations. Seems not. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnmurray7682
    @johnmurray7682 Год назад +2

    I'm not sure if this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but it's certainly up there.

  • @locolocomal
    @locolocomal Год назад

    Do you think we can see one and even use it someday in the future?

  • @wayneyd2
    @wayneyd2 Год назад

    Great, more moving parts.

  • @patkelley4071
    @patkelley4071 Год назад

    Any new combustion engine design is fighting an uphill battle against the hype and push for electric motor powered vehicles.

  • @fernanditoperezphilippines6741
    @fernanditoperezphilippines6741 7 месяцев назад +1

    I like the design, but need extra plywheel at the front of crankshaft coz it has two piston so need an extra torque converter. Nice design

  • @WandaDeeBackroads
    @WandaDeeBackroads Год назад

    Just one question: Where the pendulum? I see parts going around and back and forth like in any engine but I don't see anything that resembles a pendulum. Maybe a slight renaming of the device would be in order.

  • @MattRamsay-in3su
    @MattRamsay-in3su Год назад +1

    While I can see more advantages than mentioned in this video like an effectively longer power and intake stroke and shorter compression and exhaust, I can’t get over the bad info in the video. Even if piston side loading and ring drag were totally eliminated, it would barely make a dent in cooling system demands. While friction can take a few hp total (and create a proportionate amount of heat), what about the hundreds of hp worth of combustion heat…. The good old 1/3 out the tailpipe, into the cooling system, and into power. While that ratio is slowly changing, the point is, overlooking the main heat source in an internal COMBUSTION engine and saying no cooling system is needed because of a reduction (not elimination) of friction is a pretty big oversight.

  • @immanutt4442
    @immanutt4442 Год назад

    This engine design puts a new meaning to the moniker ... Get Bent

  • @williamstel9330
    @williamstel9330 Год назад +1

    At 30% increased efficiency that would be pretty nice looking at fuel prices today. Even if it was only in economy vehicles with lower horsepower. It would make EV cars have that much more to work against. It's nice you could park it and come back in a month and drive it away, no battery problems probably the military may be interested for drones.

    • @HenriBourjade
      @HenriBourjade Год назад

      Theory.

    • @MrLucidity
      @MrLucidity Год назад

      30% more efficient than an engine that's 40 - 60 years old.... Not impressive at all

  • @singkablugun90
    @singkablugun90 Год назад +2

    This technology in these era.. nothing impossible to manufacture.

  • @Dudeman9339
    @Dudeman9339 Год назад +7

    What happens when the pivot bearing wears out? Betcha this engine goes from "low friction" to shredding itself faster than any conventional ICE engine.

    • @gomezmontielabraham5211
      @gomezmontielabraham5211 Год назад

      The inventor managed to reduce friction to a minimum, and he took advantage of the design to implement it in medical compressors, they are very popular in Argentina where he is from. There is more information but in Spanish

  • @erisgh0sted961
    @erisgh0sted961 Год назад

    It still hasn't been mass produced. Hell, it isn't even available across different markets. Its not even in limited production.

  • @martinpanks992
    @martinpanks992 10 месяцев назад

    I cannot see how this design would be any better than a standard design..

  • @georgetirebiter6437
    @georgetirebiter6437 Год назад

    Toyota uses a Atkinson cycle in its hybrids, which provides a 40 percent efficiency over the Carnot cycle which extracts 30 percent in general from gasoline. A more traditional engine giving roughly the same increase in efficiency. The drawback is that the Atkinson is less responsive, but electric motors in the hybrid system take up the slack. Notably, the plug - in RAV4 is the second fastest car in toyota’s stable.

  • @cobra7250
    @cobra7250 Год назад +4

    I am very interested in knowing how the geometry of the bores
    produced.

  • @sicks6six
    @sicks6six Год назад

    You should do a video of triang engine, three triangular pistons on one crank, its like the delta engine used in diesel trains today,

  • @doogie525
    @doogie525 Год назад +1

    The piston has to be heavier due to its complexity along with extra shafts and crank case size. The extra size also makes stuffing it into a vehicle more cumbersome. It looks like it would be very difficult to assemble or service. Although interesting it looks like a fail to me.

  • @yuanpingzhao1323
    @yuanpingzhao1323 8 месяцев назад

    This engine structure must be very directional, meaning only one correct rotating direction has the positive fuel efficiency gain, while the reversed wrong rotating direction will have negative gain. Thus its V structure and opposed boxer structure will have the gain cancelled each other.
    So I think only by inline I-4 or I-6 structure this engine will have overall positive gains from all the cylinders involved. We need to answer: What is the only one correct rotating direction???

  • @JavierTorres-py6rp
    @JavierTorres-py6rp Год назад

    The "stroke" is so small though. How does it even make torque? This is amazing. I didn't even know about it.

  • @CheekiScrubb
    @CheekiScrubb Год назад +8

    this would work amazing in a two stroke or even an opposed piston

    • @geoffgunn9673
      @geoffgunn9673 Год назад

      there''s already toroidial design opposed piston, another idea that doesn't work in the real world

  • @ian9toes
    @ian9toes Год назад +1

    There was no mention of balancing. If it was easily balanced I reckon he would have mentioned that

  • @konstantinNeo
    @konstantinNeo Год назад

    The images @ 5:40 are of a compressor rather than the engine.

  • @ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow
    @ExileTheKnightsOfMaltaNow Год назад

    This looks like it would be the way to go to pair with hydrogen on demand? Would require minimal and could use water-friendly lubricants

  • @jobgraza7622
    @jobgraza7622 Год назад

    I was waiting for a vibration test or feedback especially at high rpms

  • @tayloralvidrez4342
    @tayloralvidrez4342 Год назад

    An engine that will only ever exist on a computer

  • @chriskucia8348
    @chriskucia8348 Год назад

    Not to take anything away from Taurozzi, but if the primary benefit is the reduction in frictional losses due to positional control of the piston, the same thing could essentially be accomplished with a guided upper piston rod, much like steam engines used a century ago. Would require a taller deck, but wouldn't require the specialized machining of a curved cylinder bore.

    • @seriouscat2231
      @seriouscat2231 Год назад

      That would simply move the friction losses to the guided rod.

  • @llpBR
    @llpBR Год назад

    Number 7 - he was Argentinian. Yeah, we are going there.

  • @sparty94
    @sparty94 Год назад

    seems like the additional sprung weight would cancel out any gains due to friction improvement.

  • @jamesjacobs1909
    @jamesjacobs1909 Год назад

    Is it rebuildable?

  • @kraftwurx_Aviation
    @kraftwurx_Aviation Год назад +2

    The mass of the extra connection rod drastically increases the mass of the moving assembly. The extra Madd results in energy losses to combat momentum changing direction as the piston reciprocates.
    The added friction of the extra bearing offsets any gains in the cylinder sleeve.
    The entire idea is interesting, but i don't see crazy efficiency gains, just increased complexity.

  • @dogphlap6749
    @dogphlap6749 Год назад

    I had not heard of this engine before. Manufacturing those cylinders would not be trivial but not an insurmountable difficulty.

    • @anubis8680
      @anubis8680 Год назад

      overbore, sleeve and crush fit, hone done. CNC and the machine tech is here, make two heads or three, clamp together with a gasketless fit, and hydraulically sleeve it. If its really that good, balancing isn't that bad shave drill fit metal. I would love to see a precision one of these crafted and get an idea for life span and maintenance, and power factor. Always thought about adding H2 into the air stream to get a better burn on combustion, I think this system would work well with that. Oversize the bearings for the expected load and keep them wet, looks like it could go many hundreds of thousands of miles.

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 Год назад

      Maching the curved bore would be the most problematic as cutting tools don't really do curves.

    • @martin-vv9lf
      @martin-vv9lf Год назад

      @@guytech7310 why not make an internal hydraulic lathe to replace the piston? since it would move on the pistons pivot point, it would cut the bore perfectly in line, and the same system could be used to overbore when reconditioning the block.

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 Год назад

      @@martin-vv9lf Good luck on a alum. block with steel sleeves cylinders to fit that curve.
      I doubt this will ever been adopted by a mass produced vehicle.

    • @martin-vv9lf
      @martin-vv9lf Год назад

      ​@@guytech7310 I certainly wouldn't suggest piston liners with this design. There are some engines that use a solid block with the liners in one piece that are very reliable. the problem then is increased complexity in casting.

  • @justcraziii
    @justcraziii Год назад

    I wonder how the engine would do with a alcohol or other dry fuels since ethanol tends to dry out engines not rated or made to handle E-85.
    I would love to see a fun business case to compare offering pendulum engines that run on dryer fuels (tooling, infrastructure, R&D, emissions performance) compared to the heavy investment needed for swapping factories to battery tech.
    With how money hungry and machining heavy running a top fuel dragster is, I'm surprised they aren't exploring these engines. Lighter, more torque, complex machining challenges... sounds right up their alley.🤔

  • @immanutt4442
    @immanutt4442 Год назад

    The lower outermost cylinder bores would have the most wear as well as the piston skirts in said locations

  • @buddybyron2586
    @buddybyron2586 Год назад +5

    the biggest problem for oil company is 30% FUEL EFFICIENT and LESS ENGINE OIL CONSUMPTION

    • @MrLucidity
      @MrLucidity Год назад

      Listen again - 30% more efficient than the original fiat 128 engine..... that's 30% more efficient than an engine that is at least 40 years old, most likely more than 50.
      It doesn't sound as impressive now, does it...

  • @nengyang1895
    @nengyang1895 Год назад

    This design will make the engine take up alot more space than the standard piston and rods. Most cars barely have enough room under the hood. The side by side 3d animation comparison made that very obvious.

  • @UncleKennysPlace
    @UncleKennysPlace Год назад +3

    How to get more subscribers: get a human to narrate. Any human. The worst human is much more palatable than the best digital voice.

  • @denalozecon9074
    @denalozecon9074 Год назад

    Mazda keeps fine tuning the Wankle engine designs. They have been doing so for 40 years. For Mazda engineers the motivation is not profit, but the engineering challenge...and proving they can figure out solutions to the quirks in the Wankle Engine.
    ---
    Just imagine if Mazda engineers spent that same 40 years of effort and passion to make a Taurozzi Pendulum Engine as powerful and efficient as they could?
    I do not know the result they would achieve, but improving something already pretty cool...magnifies the benefits of it. Taurozzi himself had the dedication to improve his design, but never had a budget to properly commercialize it.
    ---
    I looked at some other comments.
    Machining the curved shaft is a challenge, but its already proven as possible...so if commercialized it would just be improving from something that works.
    The biggest downside from the few comments I read is the length of the Swing Arms. Basically they would have a lot of mass as shown; this would limit the maximum RPM before inertia destroys engine. Titaneum alloys would reduce this problem of course but this issue might be the primary reason big auto makers did not want to commercialize it. A low RPM engine has its uses, but not regular cars; powering farm vehicles or specialized equipment like a gas powered compressor is much more niche and harder to make a profit than cars are.

    • @geoffgunn9673
      @geoffgunn9673 Год назад

      and now they have relegated the rotary to charge an ev,,

  • @MusicAuthority-b9r
    @MusicAuthority-b9r Год назад

    It seems like the additional moving parts would effect longevity, costs. it might be good for applications but not for automotive use.

  • @tonythomas6959
    @tonythomas6959 Год назад +1

    This is a fantastic design

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    @HassinahCotwal-zh2bm Год назад

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  • @homewithbuddy8510
    @homewithbuddy8510 Год назад

    in the animation the connecting rod to the crank collides with the cylinder wall.

  • @Primaate
    @Primaate Год назад

    At 2:00 'Why hasn't it been mass produced " ?
    As both a Fitter and Engineer ill take a wild guess..... how the fuk do you mass produce the 'cylinder' bore ?
    The piston alone will be a nightmare. (Maintenance is another story entirely!!)
    "Prototypes are easy, mass production is the difficult part"- Elon Musk

  • @EpemaKlapkin
    @EpemaKlapkin Год назад

    The cost of manufacturing such a cylinder reduces all the advantages of the engine.

  • @philipfreeman72
    @philipfreeman72 Год назад +1

    Can this be combined with opposed piston engine to eliminate the head & valves ?