GTC 2013: Face Works (2 of 11)

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @ChrissonatorOFL
    @ChrissonatorOFL 8 лет назад +12

    I don't seem to be creeped out by this level of realism, I think it's amazing.

    • @milk4367
      @milk4367 7 лет назад +1

      Chris Cunningham we can tell by your profile picture

  • @bikedirt
    @bikedirt 11 лет назад +1

    This is insane, it'll be years before this will be incorporated but still awe inspiring.

  • @citamorc
    @citamorc 11 лет назад +2

    THE EYES! THOSE DEAD EYES!
    Really, make the eyes react to light and I think you can make the illusion almost perfect.
    Awesome job, guys.

  • @MrMatttL
    @MrMatttL 11 лет назад +3

    I love how he's just walking around with that titan :P

  • @PenguinRecordings
    @PenguinRecordings 11 лет назад

    Hahaha this guy has a sense of humor, I'm impressed. Normally don't watch these talks till the end, but he got my attention full time.

  • @DMacB42
    @DMacB42 11 лет назад

    i love seeing stuff like this, the uncanny valley is very real when things are really realistic but just a little.. off.
    This is not a little off. This is incredible.

  • @OttoMotos
    @OttoMotos 11 лет назад

    Amazing job! At some point in face demonstration, i swear my brain was getting the info of skin thickness out of the picture. That's something you don't expect brain to do while observing polygonal model. And the biggest role in this takes the animation. Fantastic.

  • @MrYoursoup
    @MrYoursoup 11 лет назад

    I love the fact that they talk about the 'uncanny valley', and subsequently show a tech that places faces right in the middle of that :P

  • @JamesPound
    @JamesPound 11 лет назад

    Creating amazing, believable characters goes beyond pure technical power. It's art and it can be done on a limited graphics budget.

  • @ToneBacas
    @ToneBacas 11 лет назад

    looks really nice. we would love to see some more clips featuring different actors just to see how everything holds up.

  • @futuredirector999
    @futuredirector999 11 лет назад

    That was a beautifully done face, soooooooooooooooooo much detail! O.O

  • @Aethid
    @Aethid 11 лет назад

    Good example of how far the best console examples fall short.

  • @Red_Ocean901
    @Red_Ocean901 11 лет назад

    Man, if they're making realistic material like this in 2013, I really can't wait for the future!

  • @brenocunha
    @brenocunha 11 лет назад

    this really deserves a 1080p video

  • @Doctre81
    @Doctre81 11 лет назад

    Looks much better with the lighting.

  • @demasprojects
    @demasprojects 11 лет назад +1

    AMAZING!!! keep going guys!

  • @iksenul
    @iksenul 11 лет назад

    WOW! imagine this technology coupled with face recognition software on your camera... your character could relay your expressions in real time!!

  •  11 лет назад

    The important point there is that whereas TF2 videos are done basically just like animated 'movies', this is rendered real-time. No post-processing. And that's why it's so cool.

  • @MutinyInteractive
    @MutinyInteractive 10 лет назад

    What cameras are being used on this "Digital Ira" demo for Nvidia? I know that Dr. Paul Debevec was using 7x Canon 1DX's for it back more than a couple of years ago now.
    I heard someone say that this demo was using a light stage with Phantom V-Series cameras?

  • @JassimMariffy
    @JassimMariffy 11 лет назад

    I'm just glad I'm alive to see this technology and I hope to see more of it in the future.

  • @MrSar3th
    @MrSar3th 11 лет назад

    Skyrim pc version is lightyears ahead. Its been a pleasure to be able to play is so stable with all these graphical mods making it like a "next gen" game.

  • @PersonMan1234
    @PersonMan1234 11 лет назад

    I agree, there needs to be more innovation in game design (particularly with the big companies, EA), but this is nVidia. They are not a game design company, but a hardware company that makes primarily graphics boards. They are merely providing tools that game designs and movie animators could use to make things and create with. In this case, it broadens the possibilities of what they can do with realistic faces.

  • @vugolol
    @vugolol 11 лет назад

    Holy crap, the face demo is awesome, just like the old they did the last generation. Pretty sure that realtime photorealism will happen in games, not more than 3 years from now.

  • @tjwolf1261
    @tjwolf1261 11 лет назад

    This was using 2 terraflops, if you include the CPU the PS4 can output those 2 terraflops. Purely from a hardware standpoint, a demo of similar, albeit slightly lessened visual quality is possible on the PS4. If you actually saw the Quantic Dream tech demo his comment makes sense. They both look markedly similar.

  • @dAMMDb
    @dAMMDb 11 лет назад +1

    I like how Huang has the Titan in his hand the entire time, lol.

  • @tjwolf1261
    @tjwolf1261 11 лет назад

    Why won't you read the part where it's only the GPU?
    "The GPU contains a unified array of 18 compute units, which collectively generate 1.84 Teraflops of processing power that can freely be applied to graphics,simulation tasks,or some mixture of the two." From your own link.

  • @bucky13
    @bucky13 11 лет назад

    My god people, it's gonna be a fun decade for gamers!

  • @trancefreak64
    @trancefreak64 11 лет назад

    Awesome demonstration thanks!

  • @TheNoobzoid
    @TheNoobzoid 11 лет назад

    The artists are the same people that work on all platforms.
    Artists aren't platform specific, if they get paid, they will work on it.

  • @Nerezza1
    @Nerezza1 11 лет назад

    The PS3 was stuck with 720p upscaled to 1080p and now the PS4 finally takes the step to Full HD. Awsome.
    So when rest of us move on from 1080p, 1440p and multi-screens to 4k, you'll still be playing in a resolution which has been the standard for 24" monitors for over 6 years.

  • @sjcb
    @sjcb 11 лет назад

    No, I disagree, although you do have a point I think the one boundary left for the next generation of games is life-likeness. Being able to have a scan done of my face and (some of) my body would really add another level to gameplay being able to play as "myself", not to mention beyond cool.

  • @Deadpikachu666
    @Deadpikachu666 11 лет назад

    You seem to forget that PC aren't for video games only. As a CG artist, having a high end, accurate rendering of a complex human face in real time with barely an impact on the overall scene performance would be great.

  • @ChuckHickl
    @ChuckHickl 11 лет назад

    That is an absolutely badass jacket that due is rocking!

  • @TheDruggedGamer
    @TheDruggedGamer 11 лет назад

    Impractical for the masses right now, but definitely a look at the future of graphics there!

  •  11 лет назад

    Everything is great, but it would be better if you uploaded full HD videos...

  • @18vallancel
    @18vallancel 11 лет назад

    Thank you for submitting your opinion on the internet. We will send you a brick in the mail shortly.

  • @Shadowninja1200
    @Shadowninja1200 11 лет назад

    I can tell houw much they added but they didn't really upload it in high res so it's understandable some people can't tell the small details. I usually am more blown away on a game's graphic in person than watching a video.

  • @neXus200xx
    @neXus200xx 11 лет назад

    That is current situation. 8GB Ram, 8 core CPU and GPU speculated equivalent 7870 is heck of a good deal even for todays games on PC. Tweaked (based) it will give more. Games only dedicated. And no more hassle with nV/Ati drivers. :)
    I've changed my GPUs about 4 times in past 6 years just to go along with games. To have steady 40-60 fps even 120+ depends on game. So that's 1 GPU per 1.5 years. PS4 will be here next 5 years running 60fps on TV/Monitor with 60Hz(fps) full HD for 350 euros.

  • @TheNoobzoid
    @TheNoobzoid 11 лет назад

    You should take a look at the tech demo again then... because this is clearly more detailed and better rendered.

  • @mouser58907
    @mouser58907 11 лет назад

    This is amazing stuff. But to those of you saying to put it in a game. He mentions this takes about half of the Titan's processing power. This is cutting edge technology. You would need a $1000 video card to render two people talking to each other at the same time, with nothing else. We'll see it some day. NVIDIA is pioneering the way to that, but its still years off.

  • @AndyEngelkemier
    @AndyEngelkemier 11 лет назад

    Do you remember AGP? When computers switched from that to PCIE your comment would have been wrong. If you had an AGP slot, you needed to upgrade the whole PC in order to keep up. That's 1 year. That's why I said it depends on when you buy. If someone changes motherboard formats you need a whole new machine to keep current. If you buy the best processor you'll likely never be able to upgrade without changing Motherboards as well.

  • @skyr8449
    @skyr8449 8 лет назад +1

    nvidia, you should also make it have adaptive rendering or whatever it's called so the textures and models will get smaller the further away it is so it's easier to render more than one person.

  • @elilla331
    @elilla331 11 лет назад

    I used to work in the industry and let me tell you right now, that the PS4 might be able to hit this eventually. But only because they're going to try really hard. Remember it's consoles that hold PC gaming back specifically the hardware right now, because games have to be made to a lower bar. During the rat race days when I was in the industry this wasn't an issue, we just made it and pushed everything to it's limits.

  • @yomimitsune
    @yomimitsune 11 лет назад

    I like how he's walking around, doing his demonstration while just casually hanging onto what looks like a GTX Titan.
    Also, isn't this the same principle as Sub-Surface Scattering, which can be seen in a demo that's already out there for both Nvidia and AMD cards?

  • @Light1c3
    @Light1c3 11 лет назад

    I totally agree! The reason PC are so expensive is because of the amount of raw processing power they give you. Consoles these days serve the other half of gamers who dont want to spend a lot on a computer but still want to play games.

  • @unrealeck
    @unrealeck 11 лет назад

    btw having one single pool of memory doesn't change anything about timings. which is what his point addressed.

  • @murfad
    @murfad 11 лет назад

    they are showing this now, which means it will be in games in 5 years.

  • @Shadowninja1200
    @Shadowninja1200 11 лет назад

    Here is the reason why it does do it better. they literally projected the actor face onto the character they're playing so basically they didn't really need to do much works.

  • @r3tr4d
    @r3tr4d 11 лет назад

    Dude, this is how the games will look like at the end of the new generation.

  • @antivanti
    @antivanti 11 лет назад

    I think Ira is deeper into the uncanny valley than Dawn. The rendering is more realistic but the stop-go on the animation made it creepier even if every animation was better. A good idle animation and better blending between the animations is definitely needed. Also repeating things make them seem robotic. Try repeating a short recording of beautiful natural laughter and it sounds creepy as hell pretty quick.

  • @warebits
    @warebits 11 лет назад

    que show hem ultra realístico... parabéns pelo trabalho.!!!

  • @johnbirmingham4083
    @johnbirmingham4083 11 лет назад

    M is for Mobile computing, meaning lower power output due to the proximity of other hot components in a small package.

  • @Traumglanz
    @Traumglanz 11 лет назад

    Case form factor has not change since ages. There are smaller ones out, but they stay compatible to the old bigger ones. BTW hdmi is not an upgrade to DVI ;-)
    IDE-Controllers are still available, so that is not an issue at all, I have still a few 10 year old cases, keyboards, displays, joysticks, etc in use.
    I switched out in the last 10 years about 4 times the trinity of cpu/motherboard/ram for "new" PCs. GPUs too at different times.
    Selling old stuff to fools is always a good idea.

  • @THEREDDRAGON
    @THEREDDRAGON 11 лет назад +1

    08:37 - for those who like to jump to the good stuff

  • @RyanGatts
    @RyanGatts 11 лет назад

    if you're referring to the shape of the ear, it's a scan of that dude's head. That's just what that guy's ear looks like.

  • @domantasl
    @domantasl 11 лет назад

    Beyond has been filmed and mapped while this is (supposedly) animated and rendered in real time. That is a huge difference. Also, this looks many times better than Beyond.

  • @Traumglanz
    @Traumglanz 11 лет назад

    60 FPS on current consoles is something for 720p ;-)
    30 FPS are often used these days, and even than often still @720p to get some extra effects into the game.
    Nothing wrong with that btw.

  • @ArticWS
    @ArticWS 11 лет назад

    ... You really didn't know that was a CGI trailer, right? Wow... It couldn't have been more obvious. Not even the highest-end PC could run a whole videogame with so many detailed characters and corresponding environments.

  • @abyssalspecter93
    @abyssalspecter93 11 лет назад +1

    I can't wait to get my "next gen" console guise :^)

  • @FreaKK367
    @FreaKK367 11 лет назад

    I agree that games should be developed with the PC in mind (if they are going to be on both consoles and PC), without such hardware limitations. It makes sense, instead of making a game limited by aging hardware, and then porting it with tweaks.
    Games should only be limited by the leading technologies of the time before they are limited by any individual system. That comes after, and it's easier to take something flawless and make it flawed than it is to polish a turd.

  • @BrunoTrevino
    @BrunoTrevino 11 лет назад

    I'd like to thank all the nerds in the world for making life so awesome.

  • @PatrickOBrienImagineer
    @PatrickOBrienImagineer 11 лет назад +1

    Because it was so good on release there's been no need! :D

  • @BradSmegal
    @BradSmegal 11 лет назад

    All that depth of emotion and I can't get over those fucking ears.

  • @velkro16
    @velkro16 11 лет назад

    Looks good. It'll only get better.

  • @Aethid
    @Aethid 11 лет назад

    Also remember that most people don't buy a console instead of a PC. They buy a console instead of a graphics card and a more powerful CPU. You also need to factor in the price difference between console and PC games, which quite quickly covers the cost of the PC if you buy a lot of games.

  • @gornes
    @gornes 11 лет назад

    Guys, do you actually imagine having that complex face models in a vast and crowded world like GTA? We've seen quite amazing facial expression even long ago when the "revolutionary" GeForce 3 was about to appear. Here, we have just one head, please show me that level of detail with thousands of those heads rendered in a scene with people walking in as much complex environment. The moment when we won't be able to tell the difference between real time rendering and a real movie is still long ahead

  • @eliaspo10
    @eliaspo10 11 лет назад

    absolutely amazing....

  • @NovusDundus
    @NovusDundus 11 лет назад

    Whenever I saw the Titan my eyes would follow it around...
    God damn that's a beast!
    Now if only I could afford one -.-'

  • @scarface11991
    @scarface11991 11 лет назад

    This is very impressive

  • @Traumglanz
    @Traumglanz 11 лет назад

    Sorry to tell you, but no consoles are not PCs. Consoles are computers, PCs are computers, but consoles are not personal computers. At least as long as you can not install a decent OS onto them to actually do personal computing. The PS3 was for a short time a PC as well. you could install linux on it and actually do personal computing with it, but they removed that feature from the console out of fear.

  • @booya2k
    @booya2k 11 лет назад

    nice tech demo...how about something that they can add now?

  • @darthlopez
    @darthlopez 11 лет назад

    Are they using the card at its full potential or is it possible to have like 30 of this guys on screen with it?

  • @Traumglanz
    @Traumglanz 11 лет назад

    Not every pre-build system is bad. There are decent ones as well, but people who are cable to tell the difference seem to prefer often to build themselves, which leaves the market with lots of consumers who have no idea what they buy and chose more or less by the color of the case.

  • @heraklen
    @heraklen 11 лет назад

    When those are out , PC's will have something even better!

  • @AndyEngelkemier
    @AndyEngelkemier 11 лет назад

    case form factor doesn't always work, parallel to usb, IDE to sata - to different sata versions, vga - dvi - hdmi - etc., nic cards built on or use to be PCI, optical drive IDE to sata etc. This can go on. I hear what you're saying, but each version you have to change things. I haven't seen it worth upgrading anything other than RAM in the last 5 years. It's just more efficient to buy a new machine and sell old stuff.

  • @Shadowninja1200
    @Shadowninja1200 11 лет назад

    well you are kinda right the ps4 is capable of rendering that in real time but you also got to remember that it's using most of it's power to draw that face. Quantic Dreams have great animators and awesome graphic artist. you're not going to see that amount of detail in the ps4 games through because of everything else it gotta render.

  • @Quagnol
    @Quagnol 11 лет назад

    If you nooblettes cannot tell the difference between this, and Quantic Dream's technology then there's no helping you. The amount of facial expression combined with extremely high resolution mapping, soft shadowing, multiple gpu intensive lighting techniques and so on that is at play here is obviously operating on another level that we haven't seen before. Do some research, educate yourselves and you'll know that this is a breakthrough in facial animation and human likeness.

  • @Traumglanz
    @Traumglanz 11 лет назад

    25 years you say?
    Hmm, we have seen the rise and fall of the RTS genre, we see currently the rise of MOBAs, we have seen MMO and mmorpgs, isometric strategic RPG games, the action rpg genre, we got the music rhythm games, we got first-person RPGs, first person shooters, first-person whatever, etc all those new genres were driving by new technology.
    Currently development tools are a driving force for cheap indie development and we see highly played controlled environments like minecraft.

  • @brandon9271
    @brandon9271 11 лет назад

    The subtleties of human expression are extremely complex. You can't really compare animating a 2d cartoon to a photo-realistic 3d human. There is a need for both the artistic elements and the technical. Looks at Smeagol from LOTRs or Davy Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean. Both were a combination of motion capture and key frame animation done "by hand" and they were amazing.

  • @JellyPants7
    @JellyPants7 11 лет назад

    My god that is amazing. People who think a console could ever do this know nothing. PC's always raises the bar with graphics

  • @iBeViewin
    @iBeViewin 11 лет назад

    How do you expect we animate our motion capture faces without motions to capture?

  • @AndyEngelkemier
    @AndyEngelkemier 11 лет назад

    Keep this comment in mind a few years down the road when you said "ever."

  • @Traumglanz
    @Traumglanz 11 лет назад

    I am quite sure that he realize it, I would say it was his whole point in explaining it first. Dawn was beginning to get creepy, but the new one is way more advanced and really creepy.

  • @badgerfrommars
    @badgerfrommars 11 лет назад

    ok people this is not going to be next gen consoles stop arguing....this is not a hate message to console gamers but he stated that that render takes 2tera flops...half of titan gpu...the ps4 gpu cant even produce 2 teraflops...and thats 2 teraflops for just the face and lighting alone never mind the actuall gameplay...they next gen future is something along the lines of fox engine wich was shown at GDC and ran in realtime wich is more realistic for next gen and looks fantastic still

  • @Shadowninja1200
    @Shadowninja1200 11 лет назад +1

    thank you I will :)

  • @ExplosivoFueled
    @ExplosivoFueled 11 лет назад

    If you're gonna put up videos showcasing graphics, for the love of god, put them up in 1080p instead of just 720p.

  • @AndyEngelkemier
    @AndyEngelkemier 11 лет назад

    You know PC's hold back PC gaming too. It's the percentage of people playing games with old hardware that holds things back. You gotta sell to the masses to make money. And you may only be able to upgrade a computer for 3 years without needing a replacement as well depending on when you buy. Keeping the lower end of the spectrum forces people to program more efficiently, so that's positive for everyone.

  • @Traumglanz
    @Traumglanz 11 лет назад

    They include CPU and GPU power for the PS4 and actually the GPU part of its APU is not that bad, somewhere between 7850 and 7870, which is a decent performance. And flops are not everything you can say about performance.

  • @rushnerd
    @rushnerd 11 лет назад

    I COULD NOT WALK AROUND GIVING A SPEECH WAVING A $1000 CARD AROUND.

  • @RandyRandersonthefamous
    @RandyRandersonthefamous 11 лет назад

    I don't know what you are talking about, it doesn't take a titan to run games on ultra settings. You can pick up a 660ti, 760, or 7950 for $200-300. My 560 ti is more powerful than both consoles.

  • @DET0X
    @DET0X 11 лет назад +1

    perfect skin textures finally :)

  • @luislairet
    @luislairet 11 лет назад

    I see, I took your comment out of context which seems to happen a lot in youtube since there's no linear comment thread or quoting like in forums. Anyways, you can exploit even having SLI titans on one machine, it's overkill imo, but you can. You would need to probably buy 3 30" monitors and play in stereo mode or whatever nvidia calls it nowadays. A game like BF 4 will probably take advantage of that kind of setup. Again, not the most common case, nor imo the most worthwhile, but possible

  • @Shippoyasha
    @Shippoyasha 11 лет назад

    Looks amazing, but I want to see what this power can do for fantastical characterizations.

  • @rupok93
    @rupok93 11 лет назад

    I am sorry, My bad. You are arguing that the speculated power of the ps4 gpu will be better than the equivalent pc gpu which is absolutely correct. I hope however that you aren't implying that it will be so powerful that it can compete with current mid range gpu's like the 660ti. The reason current gen consoles can run what they can is not only cause of optimization but several graphical tricks devs put in place, downscaling of textures, etc even then some games struggle to reach 30 fps.

  • @Kridian01
    @Kridian01 11 лет назад

    This presentation would've been so much cooler if Jen-Hsun's jacket had fiber optic green lights on the arms.

  • @krispwnsu
    @krispwnsu 11 лет назад +1

    "Half the power of Titan." Yay. I can run two of these heads.

  • @Zirc0nium69
    @Zirc0nium69 11 лет назад

    somebody will. be patient young padawan.

  • @Gruntfan
    @Gruntfan 11 лет назад

    WHEN WILL THIS BE IN GAMES

  • @Lightice1
    @Lightice1 11 лет назад

    That only applies in terms of raw machine power. Consoles are more optimised for the games that they run, and don't need to concern with running a multi-purpose OS in the background of every game. Hence why PS4 does compete with mid-range PCs of today on equal footing for awhile.

  • @Apocalip
    @Apocalip 11 лет назад

    Amazing, future is here