The Ash'aris are the Sole Sanad to the Prophet (ﷺ) | Sh. Muhammad Abdul-Wahid al-Azhari al-Hanbali
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Just to be clear, by Ashari he means Ashari and Maturidi. This is a common application of the word throughout Islamic literature and discourse. I'm sure most will know this but this is just a clarification...
i was about to comment the same thing, thank you very much
MashaAllah, shine like a pearl.
Barakallahu feekum. Thank you for this important post.
🔴 When Imaam Abu Haneefah (Rahimahullah) was asked of his opinion of the one who says i do not know whether Allaah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) is above the heavens or on the earth,
Imaam Abu Haneefah (Rahimahullah) said:
He has disbelieved, because Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) says: “The Most Merciful rose above the Throne”, and His Throne is above His (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) seven heavens.
He was then asked, what if he said that Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) is above His (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) Throne but he does not know whether the Throne is in the heavens or on the earth he said, he has disbelieved. because he has denied that He (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) is above the heavens
[Quoted in Al-Uluww of Adh»Dhahabi, also in Sharh Aqeedah At»Tahawiyyah of Ibn Abi AI-lzz AI»Hanafi]
🔴 lmaam Malik (Rahimahullah) said when replying to the one who asked, ‘How did Allah make lstawaa? (Ascension above the Throne),
Al-lstawaa is Known, and its how is unknown, to have faith in it is obligatory, and to question it is an innovation.” Then he said to the questioner, “i do not think except that you are an innovator” and he ordered him to be expelled.
[Quoted in AI-Asmaa was Sifaat’ Page #.516]
🔴 Imaam Ash-Shafi’ee (Rahimahullah) said:
The belief that I am upon, and I saw Our Companions, the Ashab-ul- Hadith (People of hadith) - like Imaam Malik and Sufvan and others - to be upon is:
Affirming the testimony that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) and that Muhammad (Sal-Allahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) is the Messenger of Allah. And that Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) is above His Throne. above His heaven. He comes close to His creation howsoever He Wills, and He (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) Descends to the lowest heaven howsoever He Wills.
[Quoted in ‘Awn aI-Ma’bood’ (13/41), and ibn Abu Ya’la reports it in ‘Tabaqaat aI»Hanaabilaa‘ (1/283) with a chain of narration linked back to lmaam Ash-Shafi’ee.)
Imaam Ash-Shafi’ee (Rahimahullah) said on another occasion:
“To Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) belong Names and Attributes that occur in His Book and His Prophet informed to the nation. It is not possible for anyone to refute (radd) them. So the one who contradicts this after the evidence has been established against him then he is a kafir (disbeliever), and as for before the establishment of the proof then he is excused due to ignorance, because the knowledge of that cannot be attained through the intellect. So we affirm these Attributes and we negate tashbeeh (likening Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) to creation) as Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) negated it by saying, ‘there is nothing like Him.”‘
[Quoted in ‘Siyar A’Iaam an-Nubalaa’ (10/80)]
🔴 lmaam Ahmad (Rahimahullah) was asked: “Allah is above the seventh heaven, above His Throne. distinct from his creation, and His Power and Knowledge are in every place?”
He (Rahimahullah) replied:
Yes. above the Throne and His Knowledge is in every place
(Quoted in Sharh Usool ilal‘tiqaad]
In an article entitled "Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (Rahimahullah) prepared by Abu Rumaysah, the following statement is made:
"Abu Hanifa said, when asked of his opinion of the one who says, ‘I do not know whether Allah is above the heavens or on the earth.’ - ‘He has disbelieved, because Allah says, "The Most Merciful rose above the Throne," and His Throne is above His seven heavens.’
He was then asked, ‘what if he said that Allah is above His Throne but he does not know whether the Throne is in the heavens or on the earth?’ He said, ‘He has disbelieved, because He has denied that He is above the heavens, and whosoever denied that He is above the heavens has disbelieved."
In fact this statement attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa is mawdu' and a lie in its attribution to the Imam. al-Dhahabi himself states that everything above was reported from the Imam by Abu Muti' al-Hakam Ibn 'Abd Allah al-Balkhi who is discarded as a narrator according to Imam Ahmad, Ibn 'Adi, Abu Dawud, a liar according to Abu Hatim, and a forger according to al-Dhahabi himself as reported by Ibn Hajar.
Even so, the text mentioned by the Hanafi authorities is:
"Abu Hanifa said: ‘Whoever says, ‘I know not whether my Lord is in the heaven or on earth:’ he has committed disbelief.’’ [Abu al-Layth al Samarqandi: Because he has attributed place to the Deity.]
Likewise, whoever says, ‘He is on the Throne and I know not whether the Throne is in the heaven or on the earth.’ [Abu al-Layth: for the same reason.]
Imam al-Dhahabi did not take the above from the original text of Imam Abu Hanifa but from the anthropomorphist Hanbali Shaykh al-Harawi al-Ansari’s tampered version in his manifesto of Tajsim titled al-Faruq fil-Sifat. Similarly Ibn al-Qayyim in his anthropomorphist book Ijtima' al-Juyush al-Islamiyya, adds more tampering, Allah forgive them both.
**Imam Abu Hanifah رحمه الله said:**
"If he denies the arsh is above the heavens, he is an apostate." Sharh at Tahawiyyah p288.
This quote is weak.
This is Mawdu and a lie.
Ad-Dhahabi has a section on him in one of his books (i believe in mizan al-itidal) where he talks about Abu Muti Al-Hakam ibn Abdullah Al-Balkhi who is rejected as a narrator according to Imam Ahmad, and Abu Dawud and then alongside that Dhahabi also states the very negative opinions about this narrator according to many other great scholars from the muhadith’s
I believe was considered a liar according to Abu Hatim
And a forger of hadith which is what was said by Imam Ad-Dhahabi lol, as reported by Ibn Hajar Al-Ash’ari in Lisan al-Mizan.
**Imam Ahmad al Hanbali رحمه الله said:**
"Certainly he (Allah) is above his Arsh, and nothing escapes his knowledge" Al Juyush Al Islamiya, Ibn al Qayyim p123.
This quote is weak. It's source from Ibn Qayyim.
Imam Shafi'i رحمه الله said:
"Allah is above his arsh, above the heavens." Al Juyush al islamiyya, pg p3.
This quote is weak. It's source from Ibn Qayyim.
Imam Malik ibn Anas رحمه الله said:
"Allah is above the heavens, but his knowledge encompasses everything, nothing escapes his knowledge."
What is this source?
"We were at Malik's when a man entered and said, "O Abu Abdillah, (meaning Imam Malik). ar-Rahmanu alal-Arsh istawa, how did He istawa?" Malik looked down dismayed and he lifted his head and said alal Arsh istawa as He attributed to Himself. It is invalid to say how. and how' does not apply to Him. I see that you are an innovator. Order him out." Hence, the saying of Imam Malik, "How' does not apply to Him," means that His istiwa' over the Arsh is without a how, i.e.. it is not with a body, place, shape, or form like sitting, touching. suspending above, and the like. Hence, there is no basis for the saying of those who liken Allah to the creation, which they falsely attribute to Imam Malik, that istiwa' is known and the how of it is unknown. This saying of theirs is invalid, because sitting, no matter how it is, will be by organs and body parts that fold. Moreover, the statement claiming that Imam Malik attributed a "how" to Allah is a fabrication.
@@marib5440 May Allah bless you brother! These Salafis use weak fabricated narrations that have been considered weak by their OWN scholars, lmao.
Regarding Imam Abu Hanifa (RA). The brother and the statements he attributed to Abu Hanifa (RA) are not found within the famous creed book of Abu Hanifa (RA) called Fiqh Al Akhbar but rather came from Abu Muti Al-Balkhi who was known as a weak narrator by the Salaf. This is what Imam Abu Hanifa (RA) actually says in Fiqh Al Akhbar which explains his creed.
"Allah existed eternally and there was no place. He existed before creating the creation. He existed, and there was no place, creation, or thing. He is the Creator of everything. "
The pseudo-Salafis always say "Where is Allah?" Imam Abu Hanifa (Allah be pleased with him) refutes this and says: "If it is asked, 'Where is Allah?' It will be said to him that Allah Most High existed when there was no place, before creating the creation. And Allah Most High existed when there was no 'where', no creation, nothing."
The most authentic variants transmitted from Imam Malik (RA) with isnad is the following version narrated by Hafid Imam Al-Bayhaqi (RA) which you brought up, mashallah.. It has been authenticated many Muhadiths especially by Imam Al Dhahabi (RA) and Hafid Imam Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani (RA).
[Imam Al-Dhahabi (RA) said regarding this: al Bayhaqi brought it with an authentic isnad from abi rabi’ from Ibn Wahb….
Imam Al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar (RA) said: Al-Bayhaqi’s isnad from Ibn Wahb is good.
Implication:
If ‘How’ or modality does not even apply to Him then any idea of not knowing a ‘How’ or Modality is impossible.
The rest he quoted came from Ibn Qayyim (RA) who should not be trusted when it comes to aqeeda as he was known to tamper in creedal matters and falsely attribute these claims to the pious Salaf. He also made a big error where he believed Allah literally sits on the throne, astagfirullah. This is who Salafis follow in creedal matters, may Allah SWT safeguard us from such deviance, ameen.
@@lumiam6982 Ameen brother, may Allah bless you too. They are always using weak and fabricated quotes to support their baseless claims
@@lumiam6982 I also noticed I didn't address the Imām Shafi'ī quote, I will do so now
Did al-Imām al-Shāfiʿī believed that ALlāh is above the ʿArsh???
In Mukhtaṣar al-’Ulūw, pg. 176 (no. 196) It is narrated by Shaykhul Islām Abū al-Ḥasan al-Hakārī (pay close attention to this name as it plays a very big role…just keep on reading you’ll find out why) Imām al-Shāfi’ī said:
القول في السنة التي أنا عليها، ورأيت عليها الذين رأيتهم ، مثل سفيان ومالك وغيرهما (رضي الله عنهم) ، الإقرار بشهادة أن لا إله إلا الله ، وأن محمداً رسول الله، *وأن الله على العرش في سمائه* ، يقرب من خلقه كيف شاء ، وينزل إلى الدنيا كيف شاء…وذكر سائر الاعتقاد
Which means: “The ʿaqīdah I [Imām al-Shāfi’ī (رضي الله عنه)] hold is the same as the ʿaqīdah of muslims before me, like al-Imām Sufyān, al-Imām Mālik (رضي الله عنهم) and others. That is ; There is no God other than Allāh ﷻ and Muḥammad is The Messenger of Allāh ﷻ and that [Allāh ﷻ is above his ‘arsh, above the heavens. He descends to the lowest heaven whenever he wishes.]"
Refer to Mīzān al-I’tidāl by al-Imām Dhahabī (رحمه الله تعالى):
قال أبو القاسم بن عساكر : (لم يكن موثقا ، وقال ابن نجار متهم بوضع الحديث الحديث وتركيب الأسانيد) ج - ٣ ، ص - ١١٢
Imam Dhahabī said: Abū al-Qāsim said: He (Abū al-Ḥasan al-Hakārī) could not be trusted and Ibn Najjār said: he is suspected of falsifying hadith and compiling it himself
(Mīzān al-I’tidāl, Juz 3, Pg 112)
In one of al-Ḥāfidh al-Imām Ibn Ḥajar al-‘Asqalānī’s work named ‘Lisān al-Mīzān Vol 5, Pg 483. He (al-Ḥāfidh) said:
قال الحافظ في ترجمته في 'لسان الميزان' ج - ٥ ، ص - ٤٨٣: وكان الغالب على حديثه الغرائب والمنكرات ، وفي حديثه أشياء موضوعة، ورأيت بخط بعض أصحاب الحديث ، إنه كان بعض الحديث بأصبهان.
Most of the ḥadīth (by Abū al-Ḥasan al-Hakkārī) are gharib and munkar, part of it is false. I saw the writings of the Ahl al-Ḥadīth (experts in ḥadīth matters) which states that," He created a false ḥadīth in Aṣbahān."
With what al-Ḥāfidh has said, we can clearly state that all the aḥādīth status narrated by Abū al-Ḥasan al-Hakkārī is Ḍa‘īf Jiddan. Therefore, we could not use it as to what the 'ulamā has said, we could not use a hadīth which has a Ḍa‘īf status in ‘Aqīdah matters.
So what’s the true creed of al-Imām al-Shāfi‘ī? Refer to Itḥāf al-Sādah al-Muttaqīn, Juz 2,
Pg 24:
قال الامام الشافعي رضي الله عنه: انه تعالى كان ولا مكان فخلق المكان وهو على صفة الازلية كما كان قبل خلقه المكان لا يجوز عليه التغيير في
ذاته ولا تبديل في صفاته (إتحاف السادة المتقين - ج ٢ ، ص ٢٤)
Imām al-Shāfi’ī said:
“Allāh ﷻ exists before "place" existed Allāh ﷻ then created "place" and remained in his Azali ṣifat as how he was before he created "place" His dhāt does not change His ṣifat does not switch.”
Imam Muhammad Ibn Idris al-Shafi`i (d. 204 AH / 820 CE)
Imam Muhammad Ibn Idris al-Shafi`i said:
"The belief that I am upon, and I saw Our Companions, the Ashab al hadith (People of hadith) - like Imam Malik and Sufyan and others - to be upon is:
Affirming the testimony that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. And that Allah is above His Throne, above His heaven. He comes close to His creation howsoever He Wills, and He descends to the lowest heaven howsoever He Wills."
al-Dhahabi in Siyar a`lam al-Nubala’ declared this report a forgery.
Al-Shafi`i said on another occasion:
"To Allah belong Names and Attributes that occur in His Book and His Prophet informed to the nation. It is not possible for anyone to refute (radd) them. So the one who contradicts this after the evidence has been established against him then he is a kafir (disbeliever), and as for before the establishment of the proof then he is excused due to ignorance.
There is no dispute about this report nor its content: Imam al-Dhahabi, Siyar a`lam al-Nubala' (8:412)
SubḥānAllāh!
Do I have permission to share this on twitter dear brother?
Sure thing, Sidi. If you don't mind though, please link the original video to your post. Ahsana Allahu Ilaikum.
@@ibnawesome No worries!
May Allāh preserve you and aid you to serve this religion Ameen
@@ibnawesome brother maybe make a future video on this sanad of the asharis? And the salafi sanad. Like more detailed may Allah reward u ☝️
No, you can't because the brother's claim is false.
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@@abbou1218 thank you
Alhamdulillah! Ashari ❤
Just acknowledge attributes of Allah. Use the terms, but don't think how it looks like since we cannot imagine.
Aah! I.e. tafwidh al ma’ana
@@maturidiwesley4107 no not Tafwidh on the Ma'na but on the Keyf, why would you say that?
@@ridovercascade4551 oh? So you know the meaning of the hand of Allah? Can you please give me the definition? Since you don’t do tafwidh of the ma’na but of the kayf only.
@@ridovercascade4551 are you there?
You are a hanbali? You should know that most of the hanbali's were not ashari's. To who does their sanad reaches back to then?
Abu hanifa, Malik, shafi, Hanbal were not ashari thats a fact
The sanads go back to hadith scholars. There were ven Mu'tazila who knew quran and ahadith and transmitted them so that's not a valid argument.
Al Azhar sharif was built bij Ismaili Shia and long time after it went sunni. Does that say anything about the status of the Ismaili shia because they transmitted it?
Abu Hanifa states in al-Fiqh al-Absat:
قلت: أرأيت لو قيل: أين الله؟ فقال: يقال له: كان الله تعالى ولا مكان قبل أن يخلق الخلق، وكان الله تعالى ولم يكن أين ولا خلق ولا شيء، وهو خالق كل شيء
The translation of this passage is as follows:
Abu Muti al-Balkhi said:
“I asked (Abu Hanifah): “What do you say if someone asks: Where is Allah?” Abu Hanifah responded: “It will be said to him: Allah had existed when there was no place, before He created creation. Allah had existed, when there was no “where”, when there was no creation or anything; and He is the Creator of everything.””
Imām al-Aáżam Abū Ĥanīfah al-Númān ibn al-Thābit al-Kūfī [70-150 AH / 689-767 CE] states in Fiqh al-Akbar:
“Allāh táālā will be seen in the Hereafter, and the believers will see Him while they are in Paradise, with their eyes, without similitude or modality, and there will not be any distance between Him and His creation.”
He (Allah) is Exalted above any limits, ends, supports, limbs, or tools. He is not contained by six directions like the rest of created things.
| Aqeedah Tahawiyyah
From "Kitab al-Wasiyyah" of Imam Abu Hanifah
Translate by Dr. Gibril Fouad Haddad:
... over the Throne without His having need for it and without settlement on it as He is the preserver of the Throne and other than the Throne."
[The Four Imams and Their Schools, Muslim Academic Trust, Spain, 2003, s. 69]
Was Imam Abu hanifah رحمه الله an Ashari or Maturidi 🤔
Neither 😂
Didn't the asha'ri creed itself codify much later in Islamic history. This is exactly like saying the Hanafi school codified was practiced by the sahabah in its entirety
In fact, the early schools did not follow asharism. And there are many athari scholars past and present.
@@ObaidahNaseer correct which means this guy claiming all of islam can be traced back through only ash'ari sanad is completely false. the hanbali mathab is completely self contained they have books on every science so they don't need to borrow from other mathabs in anything. ash'ari are halaf while the athari theology is salaf on account of imam ahmed codifying it.
@@waleedmukhtar2925 to understand what the sheikh is saying you need to be a student of knowledge. and to know what a sanad is. btw this sheikh is hanbali.
What about the sufi sanads? They claim it goes back to Abdul Qadir Jilani (even though he was a strict Hanbali) and Naqshbandi tariqah in one of their books claim that when the prophet (saw) and Abu Bakr (ra) were hiding from the cave the Naqshbandi ghosts were watching there with them.
Every sufi order claims it has a sanad
Yes its the sufi masters were together in the cave doing dhikr
Every real Shaykh has sat with his Shaykh who sat with his Shaykh who sat with either Sayyidina Abu Bakr as Sideeq or Sayyidina Ali who both received spiritual transmission from the Holy Prophet عليه أفضل الصلاة والسلام
Naqshbandi ghosts? No such thing. No book has that written. Souls yes.
The matters of the soul is something different and beyond our understanding, therefore one cannot comment on this matter as Allah Almighty has said in His Book:
وَیَسۡـَٔلُونَكَ عَنِ ٱلرُّوحِۖ قُلِ ٱلرُّوحُ مِنۡ أَمۡرِ رَبِّی وَمَاۤ أُوتِیتُم مِّنَ ٱلۡعِلۡمِ إِلَّا قَلِیلࣰا﴿ ٨٥ ﴾
• Dr. Mustafa Khattab:
They ask you ˹O Prophet˺ about the spirit. Say, “Its nature is known only to my Lord, and you ˹O humanity˺ have been given but little knowledge.”
Al-Isra', Ayah 85
This matter is not even relevant however to having a sanad and it’s importance.