Hmm I’m not sure if I follow your assessment of the exterior and interior modeling work as “not bad” or “decent”. To me, this $15 plane’s model is almost impeccable, definitely better than most of aircraft whose price tag is 2x or 3x of it
Completely agree, appreciate the quick overview but I definitely feel like there is lack of knowledge here. The model detail is next level and for this amount of money. Definitely feel like you are unfair in the review, not sure what you compare the model to saying its "not bad" or "decent". Rushed? Maybe but then point out the issues? Your not actually mentioning what's wrong, I mean you say you don't even know and can't judge it so don't then?... Sry review just feels insincere.
I agree. I haven't had a chance to see the model in-game yet, but I can already see from the video that this one outclasses most models from paid mods. And as a 3D graphic designer I pay a lot of attention to modelling and texturing. I think that fair number of much more expensive products, are often full of bugs in UV mapping, mesh geometry, low quality textures, poor animations etc.
I think it is indeed "not bad" or "decent". Most other payware planes for MSFS are just pure cash grabs, making this one of the best available, but not the best possible.
This is amazing, one of the best airplanes for MSFS so far, especially considering the price. At least better than majority of addons which are twice the price.
I love all the labels and gauge text in German. I haven't grabbed this yet but for $15, I'm definitely going to. Very cool to have 'original' and 'modern' cockpits
I picked it up last night. I have to say I was pleasantly surprised, which for me is big because I am noooooot an airliner guy in the least. I followed a tip from Lionheart on FB, and kept cargo weight at roughly 49%. She handles nicely when weighted down, as opposed to empty. Feels roomy in VR! Not bad Asobo, not bad. Thanks for the review and flight, AvAngel!
For £15 I think it’s worth it, quite a few variants and it’s quite unique on the market right now. Thanks for the review I think I’ll grab it this weekend 😄
Now that's what I call a "glass cockpit"! :) Very nice light and airy feel for a plane that size, although probably a liability in warmer sunnier climates. Weird that it would default to an emptier load than we're used to, but could be worse I guess. Still on the fence about buying it, I'll probably wait and see how the upcoming DC-3 and Lockheed Electra compare, but it definitely has a unique charm and isn't as heavy or complicated as the DC-6.
Thank you for the review! I was a bit surprised about your restraint, to me this model looks absolutely gorgeous. The Deutsches Museum in Munich is currently undergoing renovation, but I am already looking forward to seeing their Ju 52 again when they re-open the aviation exhibition. An airworthy Ju 52 used to fly over Munich for scenic flights in the summer until a few years ago, starting and landing in Oberschleißheim (EDNX). The sound of three radial engines was mindblowing, the best sounding plane I have ever heard ... Will definitely get this one for MSFS once I am back from vacation :)
"It's not a very powerful aircraft, each of these engines is under 1000hp" You realise all the Cessna folk would love to have just one engine likely to be described as "under 1000hp" let alone 3 of them!
Definitely looking forward to flying this! Unfortunately I wasn't alive back when my country flew these as airliners but I wish I was, it's got such a unique look to it with that wavy metal plating, and supposedly it was quite popular at it's peak!
@@AvAngel well, to be honest, we can't really expect good flight dynamics by Asobo Studios right? I mean, there are many planes with some buggered flight dynamics even a whole year later. To their credit, they do seem to be working on it, but you'd expect better from them, ESPECIALLY when you pay extra for premium content. SR22 comes to mind. Took them a year to address the unrealistic flight dynamics.
@@indianboy0453 While there's a ways to go with all the default flight models ( some better than others ) - I feel the default weight and balance settings are way too light across the board - which really affects how the plane feels. I can't remember the last time I took a plane up IRL with empty back seats. Add a realistic load and the plane should feel a bit better, at least.
The Ju52 is a slow sluggish plane naturally. IL2 Great Battles has similar flight characteristics, but I will check this out when I get home today and fly this thing :P
I liked the “unfinished” rating for this product. Feels lovely in many aspects but short on several others. Flight model seems simplified. It feels a little unpolished on technical side of things. Good product for the price. Very beautiful modeling, texturing and eye candy but lacks in terms of complexity. I may say something wrong but it looks like Asobo does not want to go deeper in development. There’s a virtual limit to their planes in the way they need to be enjoyable for non core simmers and Xbox users maybe? I don’t know but one thing that comes to my mind is that the USD 15 tag is about right and tells a lot on the value of this plane.
@@AvAngel at this point, I think “why do we still call them simulators, if there are so few simulative aircraft in P3D, MSFS and XP compared to the enormity of BRUM!-WOSH!-WEEEE! planes?”
Yep, without trying to be negative about it, the only saviour will be 3rd parties , this is for Xbox players. No depth , I think anything first party is going to be Carenado in approach.
I'm an Xbox user. The consensus amongst many of us in the FB group is the same that the FM is oversimplified. We're here for the same experience. Just because we didn't dump big money into a PC doesn't mean we want floaty and unrealistic aircraft.
After flying around with the Ju-25 flying school bus for about an hour last night, I have to say I am really impressed. Beautifully modeled and detailed. The sounds do seem slightly muffled on the runway, but sound absolutely brilliant in the air! My only gripe is that I can't find the flaps control in the cockpit, haha!
Sounds a bit low, but overall it isn't terrible, I do rather enjoy it, I think the simplistic nature actually appeals to me for more casual pick up and take a trip... when I want less focus on management.
For what's concerning the 3D model Asobo aircrafts are stunning. Of course not difficult to fly ( the target is the casual simmer) but the cockpit is really like that of today's Junkers that fly here in Switzerland. I have seen them many times and they were gorgeus. Unfortunatly two years ago one crashed flying too low over the Alps killing about 20 people. I was the last person that spoke with pilots and passengers before take off that day, unfortunatly. It was a wery hot day.
HI as a propeller preferred flight simmer and the rush job this wonderful old aircraft has had to suffer. Do you think it will improve to the standard we all hoped it should have been ? Many thanks
My brother bought this on his Sim so I gave it a spin... Pretty light on the controls as everyone has said here, but I kinda liked it so I've since bought one which is still in my hanger because I also picked up the Kodak 100.
Thanks for not being afraid to be less than gushy. Great to hear an honest opinion. Got to say I’ll probs get it for £12 though. At that price ‘ok’ isn’t too bad.
Great review and as a non pilot i can never really comment to much of flight performance etc . Although i have flown gliders and the odd light GA plane and have been in many a transport / airliner in my time as a passenger and in the past on the flight deck ( my days in the Royal Air Force ) . I love the look and i like the older planes so ill certainly give this a try , still like VOR over GPS . Not bad for the price and im sure they will fine tune on updates as time goes on . How ever as yet it's not so high on the AvA's scale , much like my school reports " Okay but room for improvement " lol .
when are they going to make fs2020 so you get ut of the aircraft anf check oil tires do full pre flights? love this sim new to this whole pc gaming world but loving it
06:19 Natürlich spreche ich deutsch. Endlich mal ein Flugzeug, wo ich die tooltips weglassen kann Of course I speak german. Finally a an aircraft where I can switch off those tooltips. Greetings from bad old Germany.
I was refreshing youtube waiting for exactly this! Wasn't going to buy before seeing AV Angel's review! :-) I think I'm going to go ahead and get it. For VR I think it will be great and I really appreciate that the multiple variants are included. Very much looking forward to flying the 1930's variant. I love steam gauge planes. For the price, the beautiful wooden yokes, the multiple variants, and the open airy cockpit for VR, I really can't pass it up!
@@AvAngel Texture wise, I think it is more than just good for the price. I just spent 5 minutes studying the rear wheel assembly. LOL. It's beautiful. And it's a rear wheel assembly! There's no reason it needs to be so detailed. But it is. As far as flight dynamics, I do feel like it is simplified, which is of course only an opinion since I've never flown any plane, let alone a JU 52.
@@waltersbg To me the flight model was a bit disappointing, i have this plane in il2 sturmovik and here it feels more challenging to fly, i had expectations of it being much better in fs2020... My favorite in fs2020 is the pmdg dc6, i love the flight model on it, comparing it with the ju 52 the ju 52 feels very simple. The dc6 is not fps friendly in vr though, but the ju 52 is very fps friendly in vr.
@@GroggyGreg Oh no doubt at all that the PMDG DC-6 in MSFS is at a whole other level as far as flight dynamics and cockpit systems functionality! I think the DC-6 is like my gold standard in MSFS for functionality, realism, documentation, and even updating (through the PMDG app). And it (the DC-6) seems to be OK for me in VR too. I love it. On the other hand, I think this Junkers has nicer modeling in many of the non-cockpit areas than the DC-6 and I'm ok with the flight model for the price. I noticed in the Junkers in VR that I kept reaching for the controls where they were in the virtual cockpit rather than where my controls actually are, so that must say something good about it. :-)
This is the best airplane simulation ever in the Microsoft Flight Simulator series. This is how you model and texture your model! I look forward to the same performance Douglas DS 3
I already bought the JU-52 and I like it, question: in comparison, is the F14 from DC worth over double the price? If yes, I might get it but I have a feeling, that it isn’t worth the price…
Thanks a lot for highlighting that weight issue. I really dislike overpowered planes, but with that full load it flew from what it looks to be quite believable. Would you be able to check the same on the islander? I see that thing pull 1200-1500ft/m figures, while it should be closer to 850. Could be that everyone flies that one on YT empty too?
I have been looking forward for this airplane for a while now, and obviously watched your video first, for its price its good, a few little tweaks needed i feel its under powered with very slow climb rate and the engine noise levels do need updating as i have to turn up my headphone volume a lot to hear it. however for visuals its beautiful. love the old school aircraft. somethings i still need to work out is tuning into a VOR, i can tune the Nav radio but the needles don't seem to pick up the VOR beacon. I do like this, and like yourself feel its underpowered for an aircraft with 3 engines. i think its worth a 7 / 10 at least for beautiful looking plane and most functions seem to work. don't think its designed for cold weather as i don't see any heat options and that outer skin panel is seen on the inside with no insulation. after a few patches this will be a gem to fly.
Av great review as usual Your audio level to me seemed low.. Not complaining just letting you know, its a common issue thats why in Broadcastng they have meters to let you know
@@AvAngel Its the same in my flight sim computer and laptop.. Oh well sorry must be my set up. Or the commercials in between are high volume and compressed. Keep up the great reviews. How about an Alaska flight?
Hey Angel, thank you very much for the review. In many aspects I sadly don't agree with you. I saw this bird in real life and It looks as in the simulator. It is for sure an ugly beast. But a famous plane. One of the first full metal planes. The interior and the model is very well done for only 12 pounds and you get 4 variants. The lack of skins is understandable. No one really want to see swastikas in the air anymore. The sounds are as in real life. This thing flew often around EDDL in the past. The engine sounds are on par. I agree with you that the internal sounds maybe a bit quiet. Regarding the flight model I think it is reasonable good. This plane has big wings and the specific uplift. It is and was a sluggish beast. I am very satisfied with Tante Ju. There are a few things that could be better but there are always things that could be better you know😉 Anyway thank you for your good work regarding your channel and take care.
RUclips (like many tech companies) like to ignore or suppress the past and pretend it didn't exist under the guise of not wanting to offend people or promote such beliefs. It is quite short sighted imo, but that is the world these days.
Great review young lady. Will I add it to my collection....no. People this is a review ....an opinion from this young lady...sure people can disagree...if everybody had the same taste and point of view, this would be a very boring world. Well done AvAngel !!
Love your review as ever. I think I might get it for £12 quid, just for a change from airliners. More generally, I’ve been flying MSFS pretty avidly for about a year now and loving it BUT I think there are too many planes which do not feel like the real deal and come over as “rushed” as you say. So basically my vote now is for more quality and less quantity right now. Personally I would now pay a bit more for airframes that are really top notch.
@@AvAngel You're right with the review, although I love it, it's a great addition, there's a few things could use a bit of work. The props when spinning are a bit unnatural with the lighting and effects. It's too quiet they are incredibly noisy irl, but then maybe that's a good thing? Apart from these small niggles, well worth the $15 with 4 aircraft and a ton of liveries, bang for your bucks.
I think it's one of the first real STOL aircrafts. I m not a pilot but I heard and watched many stories about this plane. Of cause - unfortunally - it is also used as a military aircraft. There has been told many stories about flying in and out soldiers from Stalingrad even almost a wing missed or a gear is missing. So it seems to be realistic that that this plane forgives a lot . Ive flown this in simulator today and it feels good to fly- maybe a strange feeling because it is slow but also not very small. I dont know what is the stall speed?
For me, all these vintage planes look great but fly them for 2 to 3 hours and they are tiresome. Those early pilots were awesome. Thanks for the great review!
The modelling is amazing, especially when you go into the nooks and crannies, bearing in mind the Asobo aircraft models are built from full 3D scans of exterior and interior. Also, interesting thing to note about the JU-52 is that is does have a ridiculously low stall speed (~44kts typically) hence why it's so easy for it to lift. Although, as with anything, fine tuning will probably be needed in the aircraft's flight.cfg file. Not sure why you think it's "rushed" either or where you base that intuition on. Nothing wrong with speculating, however, there is no real evidence to back said speculation up.
The modeling is lovely, the feel of it isn't perhaps? The speed is low as you say, but the cg feels a bit odd, and the tail takes a century to come down, but it can lift way lower than its stall speed. The behavior feels like a mushy cessna, whether that's realistic or not, I'm not sure, but I will say that the engine sounds are way too low overall, and there's a bit lacking in animations like the engines. They're minor gripes, but likely things that can be tweaked. I can't put my finger on it, but the flight model feels off... I guess years of simming I've never felt anything like it... very very easy and more lift than I've ever felt... but little power.
16:33 They are both for altitude, the left one is showing the altitude in 100 meter increments and the right one is showing the hight in 1 kilometer increments. Höhe or Hoehe is the German word for height and also altitude.
@@AvAngel Yeah, well we Germans like our over-egineering. But tbh, the reason for two of them was that the altitude meters available back then weren't really precise to begin with, so I can see why they did that. Also noteworthy, the JU-52's correct description is JU-52/3m. 3m standing for 3 engines (3 Motoren) as the original design was a single engined airplane.
I think for the price it is fantastic. The detail of the modelling is great (look at the engine or the undercarriage in close up). However the flight model seems to easy and although you can hit every switch theymostly do anything (e.g. the cowl flaps and oil cooler have no effect on the engine temp).
All those ww2 aircraft from the Reno Air Race package could have an addon machine gun/damage addon and theyd have a flight sim within a flight sim! Especially for xbox pilots, cuz we cant do dcsworld or the other one, IL Sturdnik or whatever it is, it fantastic and shoukd be on xbox.
This aircraft is incredibly detailed. Get the drone camera and get inside the engines and other parts of the airplane. The attention to detail is second to none. If only the flight dynamics were the same!… The JU52 is incredibly floaty, almost ridiculously so. It just keeps flying at speeds so low that it defies credibility. Hopefully they will patch that in the not too distan future. ( for reference, I am playing on an Xbox series X)
At 4:00 Are you sure this is the modernized cockpit? I would say the modernized one would have at least one digital screen. The fact one can click away the yoke, I would think is no indication for modern of original, I think. Thanks for the review anyway, ofcourse. And I agree with some other commentators: What you show in this video, I would describe as very much beautiful detail. But ofcourse, feel free to judge it the way you think it is :-) KInd regards Bram
Great review (As always).I think Asobo are catering for the casual player who want a nice looking aeroplane which you can fly without a 40 page manual. The £15 price tag should have been a clue. Now it’s up to the enthusiasts and modders to sink their teeth into it . I’m certain historically accurate liveries will be on their way very soon. 🙄
@@AvAngel i would always prefer smaller thing for low and slow... That Ju is so big ! But maybe for à mail adventure in South america like French pionners from Aeropostale? I know that was 10 years earlier.... But still
Asobo continues making better value-for-money aircraft than third party developers. There may be better developers, but they are WAY more expensive and there are cheaper developers but their quality is worse. This is the sweet spot, no doubt they'll sort out the bugs.
I picked this up, I mean $15, come on. I like it but it really gets in the air in a hurry. How realistic is that? 2 knot headwind and I was off the ground in 10 seconds.
@@AvAngel it did. I moved everything out of the community folder, deleted it on content manager and reinstalled it with no luck. I cant wait to try it out. I went ahead and opened a ticket with zendesk. Hopefully they can straighten it out. This is the first time its happened like this with a marketplace download.
I mostly love it but until the flight model gets some serious work I'll not be flying it. Takeoff at less than 30 kph and immediately climbing at 2000 fps still under 40 kph (yes it can only hold that for a few seconds) is just too much for me.
Did a float variant even exist, seems like a waste of dev resources since it couldn't have been common even if it did. I was really looking forward to this, I'll probably still get it since its so cheap but still...
Yes, the Nazi’s used a float version with a giant electromagnetic ring slung beneath it to clear mines around Sweden and Norway. Really neat from an engineering standpoint.
Bet you they've used the flight model from the Crafter. Gatfted graphics on it. 3rd party..(Ill ave a go at them?). Added three radials from wherever they want, lets face it no one wanting this model is gonna look seriously at 1936 radials...pleeeease!! AND TA DA..A WW2 profile!!! Ha HA! The Gaul of Asobo! Externals are rough, apart from the radials and tail gear/...rivetts are 2d FSX...no sorry no good! They think we dont notice after all those freeware ASobo aircraft with 4d textures? Cum on get it right!
From glancing at the titles on other RUclips videos there are an awful lot of fan boys for this aircraft so I may get shouted at but here goes For the price it’s decent and if you are a fan of the aircraft it’s worth it. I’m not a fan, I’ve flown a WWII Junkers and wasn’t impressed. It’s an underpowered brick that feels like a flying green house in the cockpit with the corrugated sides and framed in glass. She’s also not a great handling aircraft when compared to the allied aircraft of a similar role and age. So my general dislike for the real thing aside what do I think of this mod. Well for once I’m not just basing this on Rachael’s video as a very excited friend bought their laptop in to hospital for me to see it and have a go. The textures, well everyone’s raving about how perfect they are and, well, there not. From a distance they look pretty good but up close they look medium definition and flat. There ok there decent they certainly are a long long way from perfect The sounds, well they are too goddess damn quiet, far to quiet. Those BMW radials are LOUD and I mean seriously LOUD and on this there just so quiet, so, so quiet I had a go at flying this thing and oh boy, she leaps off the runway in a frankly completely unrealistic way whether loaded or not. The real thing is good at taking off for its era but bear in mind it’s era is WWII. She needs to be coaxed into the air, she’s an aircraft that once up does a good job of wanting to stay up as long as you give her power but she’s not exactly nimble compared to other similar aged aircraft in her size class and in the sim banks way to nicely, way to cleanly. I’m sorry but this just feels like it was rushed out the door with average textures, decent modelling, crap sounds and awful flight realism Rachael’s rating was generous, 4/10 Love you Rachael and sorry I’m trying to catch up with your vids 😘
I guess people love it, but to me the flight model feels 'off' compared to anything I've flown of similar vintage... including the fsx junkers that was reportedly pretty good. sounds suck, and textures are.... ish ok? mebe? overall potential but needs work, but apparently I'm wrong it's wonderful... *shrug*
@@AvAngel yeah I don’t get why they are fan boying over it I really don’t. Graphically it’s ok, sounds are shit and flight model is bad Once ppl start fan boying there’s no arguing with them
Not really, I got premium too, got the planes, was fun, these are just like any other third party aircraft addons, just made by asobo. I see no issue myself.
Ah....Zee German Junkers. I think the price shows the real truth about the effort taken with this Model. Das sind neun von 10 Engländern. No 5 ish out of 10. Nice review Rachael and It's another Plane that's cheap enough for an addon.
Yeah... cheap enough to play with, I can dig through some cheapies for gold... like the Husky... that thing is honestly my favourite plane in the sim rn.
@@AvAngel Haha, I flew the Husky last night for a point of reference anticipating picking up the Ju52. Not so sure about buying now - Husky seems miles ahead in depth...
@@AvAngel I had missed this recommendation. I couldn't resist getting the JU 52, and I do like it a lot for what it is, but now I'm going to go add the Husky too!
The aircraft has been modeled with millimeter accuracy and it's "decent" and "not bad"? 🙂 Asobos's planes, in my opinion, are generally a cut above the third-party products which are not only more expensive but uglier and more buggy. Most developers just import their FSX things, put "PBR" in the description and that's it. This plane on the other hand is not only utterly beautiful but works well, too. We will probably never see "perfect" aircraft in any simulator as they're called real simulators and cost millions of dollars. What we get here (and for how much) is a great deal in the marketplace. Not to mention they will keep updating it unlike some third-party developers. I have much more confidence in buying Asobo content than unpredictable third-party products.
Hmm I’m not sure if I follow your assessment of the exterior and interior modeling work as “not bad” or “decent”. To me, this $15 plane’s model is almost impeccable, definitely better than most of aircraft whose price tag is 2x or 3x of it
True, but there are some bits that are better than others perhaps, but overall yeah, its pretty good... I just dont want to froth over it either.
Yeah. They said decent and then I was almost gobsmacked at the switch to the interior.
Completely agree, appreciate the quick overview but I definitely feel like there is lack of knowledge here. The model detail is next level and for this amount of money. Definitely feel like you are unfair in the review, not sure what you compare the model to saying its "not bad" or "decent". Rushed? Maybe but then point out the issues? Your not actually mentioning what's wrong, I mean you say you don't even know and can't judge it so don't then?... Sry review just feels insincere.
I agree. I haven't had a chance to see the model in-game yet, but I can already see from the video that this one outclasses most models from paid mods. And as a 3D graphic designer I pay a lot of attention to modelling and texturing. I think that fair number of much more expensive products, are often full of bugs in UV mapping, mesh geometry, low quality textures, poor animations etc.
I think it is indeed "not bad" or "decent". Most other payware planes for MSFS are just pure cash grabs, making this one of the best available, but not the best possible.
I love the cockpit. It’s like flying a greenhouse.
Great comment !!. Thank you. Yup it’s all analogue, aluminium and steam driven, just like a greenhouse of course. Lol !!.
This is amazing, one of the best airplanes for MSFS so far, especially considering the price. At least better than majority of addons which are twice the price.
It’s got a very good rating In The marketplace . Very necessary to avoid wasting money on overpriced add ons.
I love all the labels and gauge text in German. I haven't grabbed this yet but for $15, I'm definitely going to. Very cool to have 'original' and 'modern' cockpits
I picked it up last night. I have to say I was pleasantly surprised, which for me is big because I am noooooot an airliner guy in the least.
I followed a tip from Lionheart on FB, and kept cargo weight at roughly 49%. She handles nicely when weighted down, as opposed to empty. Feels roomy in VR!
Not bad Asobo, not bad.
Thanks for the review and flight, AvAngel!
Absolutely amazing Ju-52 ,very, very well made and definitely one of the best aircrafts in MSFS 2020.
For £15 I think it’s worth it, quite a few variants and it’s quite unique on the market right now. Thanks for the review I think I’ll grab it this weekend 😄
Now that's what I call a "glass cockpit"! :) Very nice light and airy feel for a plane that size, although probably a liability in warmer sunnier climates. Weird that it would default to an emptier load than we're used to, but could be worse I guess. Still on the fence about buying it, I'll probably wait and see how the upcoming DC-3 and Lockheed Electra compare, but it definitely has a unique charm and isn't as heavy or complicated as the DC-6.
I spent several hours today flying this plane and I have to say I love it! It is really fun!
Love your reviews and flights, keep UP with the great work!
Thanks John :)
Thank you for the review! I was a bit surprised about your restraint, to me this model looks absolutely gorgeous. The Deutsches Museum in Munich is currently undergoing renovation, but I am already looking forward to seeing their Ju 52 again when they re-open the aviation exhibition. An airworthy Ju 52 used to fly over Munich for scenic flights in the summer until a few years ago, starting and landing in Oberschleißheim (EDNX). The sound of three radial engines was mindblowing, the best sounding plane I have ever heard ... Will definitely get this one for MSFS once I am back from vacation :)
The sound does disappoint a little I will admit
"It's not a very powerful aircraft, each of these engines is under 1000hp" You realise all the Cessna folk would love to have just one engine likely to be described as "under 1000hp" let alone 3 of them!
Oh I know, but a cessna doesn't way as much as this fatty.
Thank you for the content as per usual lovely human! Great review. Much love.
Definitely looking forward to flying this!
Unfortunately I wasn't alive back when my country flew these as airliners but I wish I was, it's got such a unique look to it with that wavy metal plating, and supposedly it was quite popular at it's peak!
Such a sweet classic. Pretty surprising how long planes like these continued to be used long after WW2
I feel that you held back in this review. It’s okay to let go. It’s okay to fall in love :)
I think I expected more honestly , I wasn’t quite happy with the flight dynamics
@@AvAngel well, to be honest, we can't really expect good flight dynamics by Asobo Studios right? I mean, there are many planes with some buggered flight dynamics even a whole year later. To their credit, they do seem to be working on it, but you'd expect better from them, ESPECIALLY when you pay extra for premium content. SR22 comes to mind. Took them a year to address the unrealistic flight dynamics.
@@indianboy0453 While there's a ways to go with all the default flight models ( some better than others ) - I feel the default weight and balance settings are way too light across the board - which really affects how the plane feels. I can't remember the last time I took a plane up IRL with empty back seats. Add a realistic load and the plane should feel a bit better, at least.
Good review.Youve saved me more money again !! Thanks.
3:56 Neat. Glad that sunroof comes standard.
Worth the money just for that :P stand up, stick your head out and shout "clear ze props!" :D
I love how your throttles are twitching with excitement to get up in the air @AvAngel :)
The Ju52 is a slow sluggish plane naturally. IL2 Great Battles has similar flight characteristics, but I will check this out when I get home today and fly this thing :P
I liked the “unfinished” rating for this product. Feels lovely in many aspects but short on several others. Flight model seems simplified. It feels a little unpolished on technical side of things. Good product for the price. Very beautiful modeling, texturing and eye candy but lacks in terms of complexity. I may say something wrong but it looks like Asobo does not want to go deeper in development. There’s a virtual limit to their planes in the way they need to be enjoyable for non core simmers and Xbox users maybe? I don’t know but one thing that comes to my mind is that the USD 15 tag is about right and tells a lot on the value of this plane.
I think that's it, its meant for the majority, not the depth desiring minority (which we are alas)
@@AvAngel at this point, I think “why do we still call them simulators, if there are so few simulative aircraft in P3D, MSFS and XP compared to the enormity of BRUM!-WOSH!-WEEEE! planes?”
Yep, without trying to be negative about it, the only saviour will be 3rd parties , this is for Xbox players. No depth , I think anything first party is going to be Carenado in approach.
@@grillodon one of the reasons why my combat flight Sims get more flight time than MSFS at times.
I'm an Xbox user. The consensus amongst many of us in the FB group is the same that the FM is oversimplified. We're here for the same experience. Just because we didn't dump big money into a PC doesn't mean we want floaty and unrealistic aircraft.
Just the plane to work out any 'Where Eagles Dare' flying fantasy's in Norway's deep snow covered valley sides.
After flying around with the Ju-25 flying school bus for about an hour last night, I have to say I am really impressed. Beautifully modeled and detailed. The sounds do seem slightly muffled on the runway, but sound absolutely brilliant in the air! My only gripe is that I can't find the flaps control in the cockpit, haha!
Sounds a bit low, but overall it isn't terrible, I do rather enjoy it, I think the simplistic nature actually appeals to me for more casual pick up and take a trip... when I want less focus on management.
@Ryan Trummel thanks! It's an interesting design for sure. Still enjoying the ju-52
For what's concerning the 3D model Asobo aircrafts are stunning. Of course not difficult to fly ( the target is the casual simmer) but the cockpit is really like that of today's Junkers that fly here in Switzerland. I have seen them many times and they were gorgeus. Unfortunatly two years ago one crashed flying too low over the Alps killing about 20 people. I was the last person that spoke with pilots and passengers before take off that day, unfortunatly. It was a wery hot day.
Yeah they based the modernised one on current flying models. I'm so sorry to hear about that... god, awful.
HI as a propeller preferred flight simmer and the rush job this wonderful old aircraft has had to suffer. Do you think it will improve to the standard we all hoped it should have been ? Many thanks
My brother bought this on his Sim so I gave it a spin... Pretty light on the controls as everyone has said here, but I kinda liked it so I've since bought one which is still in my hanger because I also picked up the Kodak 100.
Thanks for not being afraid to be less than gushy. Great to hear an honest opinion. Got to say I’ll probs get it for £12 though. At that price ‘ok’ isn’t too bad.
For £12 im happy... but it needs work.
Great review and as a non pilot i can never really comment to much of flight performance etc . Although i have flown gliders and the odd light GA plane and have been in many a transport / airliner in my time as a passenger and in the past on the flight deck ( my days in the Royal Air Force ) . I love the look and i like the older planes so ill certainly give this a try , still like VOR over GPS . Not bad for the price and im sure they will fine tune on updates as time goes on . How ever as yet it's not so high on the AvA's scale , much like my school reports " Okay but room for improvement " lol .
when are they going to make fs2020 so you get ut of the aircraft anf check oil tires do full pre flights? love this sim new to this whole pc gaming world but loving it
I got it too, and love 💕 it ! Any ideas where a user manual can be downloaded/bought ?
Other than sim checklists there isn’t one I don’t think
06:19 Natürlich spreche ich deutsch. Endlich mal ein Flugzeug, wo ich die tooltips weglassen kann
Of course I speak german. Finally a an aircraft where I can switch off those tooltips.
Greetings from bad old Germany.
I love Germany very much, but i leave that dark part where it belongs, in memory
New sub here. Really enjoying your channel!
Thank you!
It has to be a quiet plane, - its so you can run the Indiana Jones theme music during flight
Good point! :D
But does it come with an inflatable life raft in case of mountains in the way? We really need a Ford tri-motor for it to authentic though.
@@WhiteHawk77 Ju 52 can climb higher than Ford Tri-Motor! 😎
I was refreshing youtube waiting for exactly this! Wasn't going to buy before seeing AV Angel's review! :-) I think I'm going to go ahead and get it. For VR I think it will be great and I really appreciate that the multiple variants are included. Very much looking forward to flying the 1930's variant. I love steam gauge planes. For the price, the beautiful wooden yokes, the multiple variants, and the open airy cockpit for VR, I really can't pass it up!
It's not bad overall, price makes it worth it.
@@AvAngel Texture wise, I think it is more than just good for the price. I just spent 5 minutes studying the rear wheel assembly. LOL. It's beautiful. And it's a rear wheel assembly! There's no reason it needs to be so detailed. But it is. As far as flight dynamics, I do feel like it is simplified, which is of course only an opinion since I've never flown any plane, let alone a JU 52.
@@waltersbg
To me the flight model was a bit disappointing, i have this plane in il2 sturmovik and here it feels more challenging to fly, i had expectations of it being much better in fs2020...
My favorite in fs2020 is the pmdg dc6, i love the flight model on it, comparing it with the ju 52 the ju 52 feels very simple.
The dc6 is not fps friendly in vr though, but the ju 52 is very fps friendly in vr.
@@GroggyGreg Oh no doubt at all that the PMDG DC-6 in MSFS is at a whole other level as far as flight dynamics and cockpit systems functionality! I think the DC-6 is like my gold standard in MSFS for functionality, realism, documentation, and even updating (through the PMDG app). And it (the DC-6) seems to be OK for me in VR too. I love it. On the other hand, I think this Junkers has nicer modeling in many of the non-cockpit areas than the DC-6 and I'm ok with the flight model for the price. I noticed in the Junkers in VR that I kept reaching for the controls where they were in the virtual cockpit rather than where my controls actually are, so that must say something good about it. :-)
Are you Rachel from Racespot? I recognize your voice! Awesome you are doing this now, great videos! 😀
I am yes :)
This is the best airplane simulation ever in the Microsoft Flight Simulator series. This is how you model and texture your model! I look forward to the same performance Douglas DS 3
Yeah but the physics do need work... but for the price its decent enough.
I already bought the JU-52 and I like it, question: in comparison, is the F14 from DC worth over double the price? If yes, I might get it but I have a feeling, that it isn’t worth the price…
No idea sorry, didn’t get it
Thanks a lot for highlighting that weight issue. I really dislike overpowered planes, but with that full load it flew from what it looks to be quite believable. Would you be able to check the same on the islander? I see that thing pull 1200-1500ft/m figures, while it should be closer to 850. Could be that everyone flies that one on YT empty too?
Yeah I flew full on purpose to compare
10k views. Well done :)
Thanks! you could say this one took off! XD
I have been looking forward for this airplane for a while now, and obviously watched your video first, for its price its good, a few little tweaks needed i feel its under powered with very slow climb rate and the engine noise levels do need updating as i have to turn up my headphone volume a lot to hear it.
however for visuals its beautiful. love the old school aircraft. somethings i still need to work out is tuning into a VOR, i can tune the Nav radio but the needles don't seem to pick up the VOR beacon.
I do like this, and like yourself feel its underpowered for an aircraft with 3 engines. i think its worth a 7 / 10 at least for beautiful looking plane and most functions seem to work.
don't think its designed for cold weather as i don't see any heat options and that outer skin panel is seen on the inside with no insulation.
after a few patches this will be a gem to fly.
I love the Junkers, its just such an underated plane! Did you know they also used it for minesweeping
Av great review as usual Your audio level to me seemed low.. Not complaining just letting you know, its a common issue thats why in Broadcastng they have meters to let you know
Low? This ones much higher than normal lol
@@AvAngel Its the same in my flight sim computer and laptop.. Oh well sorry must be my set up. Or the commercials in between are high volume and compressed. Keep up the great reviews. How about an Alaska flight?
Hey Angel, thank you very much for the review. In many aspects I sadly don't agree with you. I saw this bird in real life and It looks as in the simulator. It is for sure an ugly beast. But a famous plane. One of the first full metal planes. The interior and the model is very well done for only 12 pounds and you get 4 variants. The lack of skins is understandable. No one really want to see swastikas in the air anymore.
The sounds are as in real life. This thing flew often around EDDL in the past. The engine sounds are on par.
I agree with you that the internal sounds maybe a bit quiet.
Regarding the flight model I think it is reasonable good. This plane has big wings and the specific uplift. It is and was a sluggish beast.
I am very satisfied with Tante Ju. There are a few things that could be better but there are always things that could be better you know😉
Anyway thank you for your good work regarding your channel and take care.
My livery comment was the fact that the other versions don’t have the variety the retro one had I don’t particularly want that symbol either!
@@AvAngel Ah check👍
Why should the party not be named?
Yes they did bad so we forget them?
I just don't want youtube to smack me in the mouth... :D
RUclips (like many tech companies) like to ignore or suppress the past and pretend it didn't exist under the guise of not wanting to offend people or promote such beliefs. It is quite short sighted imo, but that is the world these days.
Great review young lady. Will I add it to my collection....no. People this is a review ....an opinion from this young lady...sure people can disagree...if everybody had the same taste and point of view, this would be a very boring world. Well done AvAngel !!
Don't just stay inside the cockpit, check out the external. This plane has details down to bolt and nut....! Awesome work.
I did... towards the start. pretty hard to fly outside :D
Love your review as ever. I think I might get it for £12 quid, just for a change from airliners. More generally, I’ve been flying MSFS pretty avidly for about a year now and loving it BUT I think there are too many planes which do not feel like the real deal and come over as “rushed” as you say. So basically my vote now is for more quality and less quantity right now. Personally I would now pay a bit more for airframes that are really top notch.
Some do yes, but then some get lots of updates and are worth it... will see on this one but for the price its certainly a great plane.
Junkers released TO AV ANGEL! This looks really great, some good starting vids around.
:D
@@AvAngel You're right with the review, although I love it, it's a great addition, there's a few things could use a bit of work. The props when spinning are a bit unnatural with the lighting and effects. It's too quiet they are incredibly noisy irl, but then maybe that's a good thing? Apart from these small niggles, well worth the $15 with 4 aircraft and a ton of liveries, bang for your bucks.
Would be nice to see a stuka soon
Very nice review! I'm not shure it is a Asobo plane though? It's made by Oliver Moser for Microsoft.
This one is Asobo's own one unless he worked with them... This is their latest marketplace release, not the fsx one.
By the way, in the late 1940s, British European Airways (a British Airways predecessor) used an ex-Luftwaffe Ju 52.
I think it's one of the first real STOL aircrafts. I m not a pilot but I heard and watched many stories about this plane. Of cause - unfortunally - it is also used as a military aircraft. There has been told many stories about flying in and out soldiers from Stalingrad even almost a wing missed or a gear is missing. So it seems to be realistic that that this plane forgives a lot . Ive flown this in simulator today and it feels good to fly- maybe a strange feeling because it is slow but also not very small. I dont know what is the stall speed?
This is going to have to be my first add on
She's not a bad one!
@@AvAngel MSFS has just downloaded so you know what I'll be buying tonight 😃
For me, all these vintage planes look great but fly them for 2 to 3 hours and they are tiresome. Those early pilots were awesome. Thanks for the great review!
The modelling is amazing, especially when you go into the nooks and crannies, bearing in mind the Asobo aircraft models are built from full 3D scans of exterior and interior. Also, interesting thing to note about the JU-52 is that is does have a ridiculously low stall speed (~44kts typically) hence why it's so easy for it to lift. Although, as with anything, fine tuning will probably be needed in the aircraft's flight.cfg file.
Not sure why you think it's "rushed" either or where you base that intuition on. Nothing wrong with speculating, however, there is no real evidence to back said speculation up.
The modeling is lovely, the feel of it isn't perhaps? The speed is low as you say, but the cg feels a bit odd, and the tail takes a century to come down, but it can lift way lower than its stall speed. The behavior feels like a mushy cessna, whether that's realistic or not, I'm not sure, but I will say that the engine sounds are way too low overall, and there's a bit lacking in animations like the engines. They're minor gripes, but likely things that can be tweaked.
I can't put my finger on it, but the flight model feels off... I guess years of simming I've never felt anything like it... very very easy and more lift than I've ever felt... but little power.
oh....I...I just want to see a modern Hughes 500 helicopter roll into town some day....or a Guimbal Cabri2 trainer....must have....rotor.......blades.
16:33 They are both for altitude, the left one is showing the altitude in 100 meter increments and the right one is showing the hight in 1 kilometer increments. Höhe or Hoehe is the German word for height and also altitude.
Ah I thought they were! it threw me for a second seeing two things that looked like altimeters.
@@AvAngel Yeah, well we Germans like our over-egineering. But tbh, the reason for two of them was that the altitude meters available back then weren't really precise to begin with, so I can see why they did that. Also noteworthy, the JU-52's correct description is JU-52/3m. 3m standing for 3 engines (3 Motoren) as the original design was a single engined airplane.
Indeed it was , I believe I mentioned that one
no engine shaking like the DC6 and Corsair?
Nope, not as deep as those.
@@AvAngel that's a shame, it adds so much to flying radials
Agreed
I think for the price it is fantastic. The detail of the modelling is great (look at the engine or the undercarriage in close up). However the flight model seems to easy and although you can hit every switch theymostly do anything (e.g. the cowl flaps and oil cooler have no effect on the engine temp).
Also the sound is disappointing.
Yeah I don’t expect systems depth from them but the dynamics seem.., off somehow
whats the place where you start the flight? looks very pretty
LOWZ Zell Am See in Austria :)
@@AvAngel thanks bro, gonna visit it
Wow, the Electra 10A came out today too!!
Yup coming soon to a channel near you
@@AvAngel This has been quite a 24 hours! Can you do a video on how to grow money on trees so we can afford to buy all these planes?
If I knew I would!
All those ww2 aircraft from the Reno Air Race package could have an addon machine gun/damage addon and theyd have a flight sim within a flight sim! Especially for xbox pilots, cuz we cant do dcsworld or the other one, IL Sturdnik or whatever it is, it fantastic and shoukd be on xbox.
Anyone know why with max trim it won’t do level flight it just nose dives??
You on modern or legacy flight model? Also check your cg
@@AvAngel I’m on the original plane, and good idea about cg, forgot about that! Ty I will try it out. 👍🏻
Lmao nice one
Thank you! you saved me a couple of bucks. Now I am watching all your videos trying to find a good '40s, '50s, old airplane.
This plane is actualy spot on, just a dumb review its not decent is Great !
This aircraft is incredibly detailed. Get the drone camera and get inside the engines and other parts of the airplane. The attention to detail is second to none.
If only the flight dynamics were the same!… The JU52 is incredibly floaty, almost ridiculously so. It just keeps flying at speeds so low that it defies credibility. Hopefully they will patch that in the not too distan future. ( for reference, I am playing on an Xbox series X)
im buyin it my favorite plane is a dc-3 this is as close as i will get
Nah there's a DC3 coming for sure, so don't worry :)
Is it also available on series s?
Will be?
this why I got Discord notifications off lol
At 4:00 Are you sure this is the modernized cockpit? I would say the modernized one would have at least one digital screen. The fact one can click away the yoke, I would think is no indication for modern of original, I think.
Thanks for the review anyway, ofcourse. And I agree with some other commentators: What you show in this video, I would describe as very much beautiful detail.
But ofcourse, feel free to judge it the way you think it is :-)
KInd regards
Bram
Sorry, now I see the differencebetween modern and classic. You were right, AVAngel :-)
Great review (As always).I think Asobo are catering for the casual player who want a nice looking aeroplane which you can fly without a 40 page manual. The £15 price tag should have been a clue. Now it’s up to the enthusiasts and modders to sink their teeth into it . I’m certain historically accurate liveries will be on their way very soon. 🙄
Its know fact that any known pilot wants to fly this plane, Manfred Rommel even had pilots license for it,
What’s the name of that airport? Great vid 😁👍
Zell Am See. :) Austria.
Well, à nicely done plane, but who will fly this at a regular basis ?
I might when they patch the handling a little... low and slow is a joy in this sim.
@@AvAngel i would always prefer smaller thing for low and slow... That Ju is so big ! But maybe for à mail adventure in South america like French pionners from Aeropostale? I know that was 10 years earlier.... But still
I would preferred the DC-3 instead
Asobo continues making better value-for-money aircraft than third party developers. There may be better developers, but they are WAY more expensive and there are cheaper developers but their quality is worse. This is the sweet spot, no doubt they'll sort out the bugs.
I picked this up, I mean $15, come on. I like it but it really gets in the air in a hurry. How realistic is that? 2 knot headwind and I was off the ground in 10 seconds.
its empty on initial loadin so that's not that realistic... with weight its ok, i cant get the 10 second takeoff myself.
@@AvAngel I may have exaggerated a bit, but it's very quick for a large hunk of metal, even if completely empty. I will try with load.
i bought it and it didnt show up in my hangar.
Check it's installed :)
@@AvAngel it did. I moved everything out of the community folder, deleted it on content manager and reinstalled it with no luck. I cant wait to try it out. I went ahead and opened a ticket with zendesk. Hopefully they can straighten it out. This is the first time its happened like this with a marketplace download.
I assume they couldn’t get the licence for the Historical liveries. I mean come on ! Surely they can afford a phone call or two to Brazil !🤣
Lol
I mostly love it but until the flight model gets some serious work I'll not be flying it. Takeoff at less than 30 kph and immediately climbing at 2000 fps still under 40 kph (yes it can only hold that for a few seconds) is just too much for me.
I couldn't get it to do that...
@@AvAngel Sandhill is right. Unloaded I was up around 30. It needs work.
That incident occurred because you flew it like Harrison Ford !!
why does this video keep repeating a creep through the weeds with no JU 52 in sight?
It… doesn’t?
These “stupid” airport vehicles always get in your way and behave like headless chickens.
MS and Asobo should really change this…
Agreed
not that junky then ;) I did have a free one for FS9 and it was better but like I said this doesn't seem to junky ;)
Looks pretty, nice price, inspired enough to buy it - nah.
Fair enough!
Oh, the "retrofit" model has gauges in English, i discovered.
Yup
Always name the government that shall not be named. Cancel culture is a sure way to repeat the mistakes of the past . Great visuals and sound
Yeah but youtube will bone me for it.
its got more glass then the shard,
its a greenhouse with wings :D
@@AvAngel yes you will have to add pot plants on top of the dash, :P
XD
Did a float variant even exist, seems like a waste of dev resources since it couldn't have been common even if it did. I was really looking forward to this, I'll probably still get it since its so cheap but still...
Yup it did! They used them for air sea rescue and in Norway iirc
@@AvAngel it looks so damn weird. Like... an adult on a kids bike or something.
Yes, the Nazi’s used a float version with a giant electromagnetic ring slung beneath it to clear mines around Sweden and Norway. Really neat from an engineering standpoint.
@@TickleFight94 no, the mine-searching version has no floats!
@@blaumupi Thanks! - I must have misread the article on it or it was incorrect. I did wonder how they deployed the ring with the floats in the way...
Bet you they've used the flight model from the Crafter. Gatfted graphics on it. 3rd party..(Ill ave a go at them?). Added three radials from wherever they want, lets face it no one wanting this model is gonna look seriously at 1936 radials...pleeeease!! AND TA DA..A WW2 profile!!! Ha HA! The Gaul of Asobo! Externals are rough, apart from the radials and tail gear/...rivetts are 2d FSX...no sorry no good! They think we dont notice after all those freeware ASobo aircraft with 4d textures? Cum on get it right!
4D?
he has such a friendly voice, cool review.
She 😀
ju52 wow no gps, autopilot so surprising
I mean... not exactly tools those aircraft had :D
@@AvAngel Ohhh
It looks like a Dc4 lol
Nothing like a dc4
Pronounced "Tante UUU" rather than "Tante Ju"
clunky I mean look at it, it's a flying brick
From glancing at the titles on other RUclips videos there are an awful lot of fan boys for this aircraft so I may get shouted at but here goes
For the price it’s decent and if you are a fan of the aircraft it’s worth it. I’m not a fan, I’ve flown a WWII Junkers and wasn’t impressed. It’s an underpowered brick that feels like a flying green house in the cockpit with the corrugated sides and framed in glass. She’s also not a great handling aircraft when compared to the allied aircraft of a similar role and age.
So my general dislike for the real thing aside what do I think of this mod. Well for once I’m not just basing this on Rachael’s video as a very excited friend bought their laptop in to hospital for me to see it and have a go.
The textures, well everyone’s raving about how perfect they are and, well, there not. From a distance they look pretty good but up close they look medium definition and flat. There ok there decent they certainly are a long long way from perfect
The sounds, well they are too goddess damn quiet, far to quiet. Those BMW radials are LOUD and I mean seriously LOUD and on this there just so quiet, so, so quiet
I had a go at flying this thing and oh boy, she leaps off the runway in a frankly completely unrealistic way whether loaded or not. The real thing is good at taking off for its era but bear in mind it’s era is WWII. She needs to be coaxed into the air, she’s an aircraft that once up does a good job of wanting to stay up as long as you give her power but she’s not exactly nimble compared to other similar aged aircraft in her size class and in the sim banks way to nicely, way to cleanly.
I’m sorry but this just feels like it was rushed out the door with average textures, decent modelling, crap sounds and awful flight realism
Rachael’s rating was generous, 4/10
Love you Rachael and sorry I’m trying to catch up with your vids 😘
I guess people love it, but to me the flight model feels 'off' compared to anything I've flown of similar vintage... including the fsx junkers that was reportedly pretty good.
sounds suck, and textures are.... ish ok? mebe? overall potential but needs work, but apparently I'm wrong it's wonderful... *shrug*
@@AvAngel yeah I don’t get why they are fan boying over it I really don’t. Graphically it’s ok, sounds are shit and flight model is bad
Once ppl start fan boying there’s no arguing with them
The flight model is a bit "fantasy", the autopilot does not work, not perfect for sure.
Only the vintage model had an ap and it’s a hold level job
Wake me up when the sim works the way it should and includes the features promoted and promised in all the official trailers.
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I hate the fact I paid top version and don't get this plane for free. Given how rubbish "premium" planes are, this would should be free.
Not really, I got premium too, got the planes, was fun, these are just like any other third party aircraft addons, just made by asobo. I see no issue myself.
Ah....Zee German Junkers.
I think the price shows the real truth about the effort taken with this Model.
Das sind neun von 10 Engländern.
No 5 ish out of 10.
Nice review Rachael and It's another Plane that's cheap enough for an addon.
Yeah... cheap enough to play with, I can dig through some cheapies for gold... like the Husky... that thing is honestly my favourite plane in the sim rn.
@@AvAngel Haha, I flew the Husky last night for a point of reference anticipating picking up the Ju52. Not so sure about buying now - Husky seems miles ahead in depth...
@@AvAngel I had missed this recommendation. I couldn't resist getting the JU 52, and I do like it a lot for what it is, but now I'm going to go add the Husky too!
The aircraft has been modeled with millimeter accuracy and it's "decent" and "not bad"? 🙂 Asobos's planes, in my opinion, are generally a cut above the third-party products which are not only more expensive but uglier and more buggy. Most developers just import their FSX things, put "PBR" in the description and that's it. This plane on the other hand is not only utterly beautiful but works well, too. We will probably never see "perfect" aircraft in any simulator as they're called real simulators and cost millions of dollars. What we get here (and for how much) is a great deal in the marketplace. Not to mention they will keep updating it unlike some third-party developers. I have much more confidence in buying Asobo content than unpredictable third-party products.
Pretty yes, price saves it but it feels very light on takeoff and landing and is rather unstable on landing too as I mentioned