Is It Worth The Price? | Heljan Catfish Hopper | Unboxing & Review

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025

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  • @cameronmcilroy8261
    @cameronmcilroy8261 Год назад +8

    Always good to see you mix it up and toy around with other gauges in the model railway world!

  • @paultolman2832
    @paultolman2832 Год назад +4

    Great review Sam and fantastic to see O gauge front and centre again. I think you are spot on with your comments on price especially if you imagine a rake of 10 of these plastic hoppers costing well over £1,000. There seems to be some good deals about with O gauge at the moment, I have just picked up some new Dapol coaches with complexed lighting and coupling mechanism for under £100 each and a new heljan Class 50 in O gauge for just over £300, with that in mind these hoppers look insanely expensive for what you get! For rolling stock in O gauge I think i'm going to stick with Dapol!

  • @GaryNumeroUno
    @GaryNumeroUno Год назад +1

    A "Crapfish"?
    The "turning wheel" 😂 is the handbrake mukka!
    The "pressure tank" is the vaccum brake operation cylinder.
    I noticed the wagon number on the bodyside has a "4" & "7" in the German style!
    They are brake shoes... not "brake pads". Brake pads are on disc brake wheeled stock good buddy.
    Cheers from Oz mukka.
    Gaz

  • @joshrussell4081
    @joshrussell4081 Год назад +6

    Love your 0 gauge stuff same the detail you can get on the bigger scale is always suprisng to me

  • @dennisneo1608
    @dennisneo1608 Год назад +29

    There's maybe $2 worth of materials in that thing. Heljan have catfished anyone who buys it.

  • @RonCooper-nl4pn
    @RonCooper-nl4pn Год назад

    I purchased a Dapol 0-6-0 Jinty when they first came out new for £150. I model O and OO and I have never purchased any Heljan models. Need I say more except that I am 78 and I love your Videos Sam keep them coming,

  • @Taggart00
    @Taggart00 Год назад +2

    The "pressure tank" is the Vac cylinder and the turning wheel is the hand brake. We have the dogfish version irl at Middleton.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад +1

      Duly noted, thanks for the info! :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @sanspareil3018
    @sanspareil3018 Год назад +1

    I wonder if the exchange rate between UK and Denmark causes Heljan to be so expensive?

  • @samgineer9857
    @samgineer9857 Год назад

    I love those shots of your O-Scale stuff going under the shelves. It's almost like watching it go through a tunnel.

  • @lukeslocomotives
    @lukeslocomotives Год назад +1

    5:20 "For lower costs and higher prices!"
    - Mr. Birling, An Inspector Calls

  • @davidbugler4597
    @davidbugler4597 Год назад

    Minerva Models are currently asking 42 quid for their exquisite Iron Mink vans, so for one Heljan Catfish you could get three of those.
    The Catfish does need extra weight -- either some 'Liquid Lead' glued into the recesses of the underframe, or a couple of ounces of crushed-stone ballast as a load in the hopper.
    Perhaps create a separate hinged-plank test bed for your 0 Gauge stock. Seeing how far one end needs to be raised to get a wagon to roll would be a good gauge of the item's rolling resistance. On Gordon's Hill the measure of freedom is the distance run, whereas on the tilting bed it would be millimetres raised -- or I guess angle of slope, if you have a calculator with trig functions.
    Love your reviews, particularly the ones for 0 Gauge.

  • @frankmarkovcijr5459
    @frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад +1

    It is amazing that so much stuff that is made in cheap labor countries like China and Vietnam are so expensive when they get to the final customer
    They make money hand-over-fist and then they give you a poor quality product they laugh all the way to the bank until the customer wakes up and decides to stop getting ripped off by the manufacturer

  • @Gothix1066
    @Gothix1066 Год назад

    I bit the hook and bought one of the Dogfish hoppers in Loadhaul livery. Hattons had them on sale. However, your right. For the price, a good amount of it should be metal diecast. Especially for the sinful price Heljan is asking of these. None the less, I still love it

  • @odenviking
    @odenviking Год назад

    i ve got maklin scale 1:32 and they used to
    make all metal waggons in the beginers range.
    yes heljan should use die cast or sheet metal.
    they even made the fp series locos in tin plate.
    sturdy tin plate at that.
    👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      Thanks for sharing! I think plastic is fine, but it needs to be reflected in the price!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @GregPalmer1000
    @GregPalmer1000 Год назад +1

    Catfish side discharge for the ballast shoulder Dogfish centre discharge for in between track

  • @lapiswake6583
    @lapiswake6583 Год назад

    I've been modelling in 7mm for 5 years now, and I still don't have any heljan items. I have RTR items from dapol, lionheart, minerva, 3 aitch, and ellis clark, with kits from connoisseur, peco, parkside, and slaters. I do want a hattons warwell at some point.
    I currently have 70 wagons and 5 coaches, but none of them had painted wheels like this one.

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios Год назад +2

    Hello Sam I just got my 1p back, and it works great. Soon I'll be making a short video on it as a final goodbye to my old layout ;)
    Cheers Jasper & Willow

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      That's awesome then - well done Bachmann! :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @paulsngaugechannel
    @paulsngaugechannel Год назад

    Hi Sam, I have had a few searches for 0 gauge models, making a comparison of what gauge models to go for. I am interested in N gauge, but there is limited availability of different regions etc. OO gauge is great, especially if you don’t want the newer expensive tat. And 0 gauge is becoming better range of available models. Obviously the locomotives range from reasonable to expensive, but rolling stock is not too bad. Especially if you buy second hand , model rail exhibits, trade stands, eBay etc. I personally would be very upset about the price, especially compared to others. But yes the model looks good, but then there’s not a lot to shout about, plastic sprung buffers don’t warrant that price. Luckily I am not going to be going the 0 gauge way, mainly space not available. But great to see you review 0 gauge. Great video Sam. 🎉

  • @lindaoffenbach
    @lindaoffenbach Год назад +1

    Great review of O again Sam. Although we aren't in such it always does make a well good comparison to H0/OO. Bit stiff priced this perhaps. What it does have going for it is that - to us - this model seems to be much sharper and seriously more looking the business compared to the other wagons in that consist. This one makes them look very plasticy. Although this Heljan actually is plastic, they seem to have succeeded in a spot on tooling, manufacturing and finish we thought. Cheerio.

  • @509brown
    @509brown Год назад +1

    Thanks, Sam! Great review as always.

  • @r.a.monigold9789
    @r.a.monigold9789 Год назад

    "Meow. Splash splash." Me imitating a catfish. Sorry, I don't know what sound a Heljan would make (clickity clack?).
    It will be an Easy Rider with it's Dennis Hopper, hopper (an old anti-hippie motorcycle movie, staring Henry Fonda's son). I spent years training for bad jokes - nailed it. Thanks for the review.

  • @Tombola1993
    @Tombola1993 Год назад

    I haven’t exactly seen the real life hopper this scale IRL. But still, it reminds me of my younger days seeing the Hopper workers parked at Port Talbot Steelworks.

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 Год назад +1

    Decent review here Sam, a nice looking wagon from heljan, I would definitely like to try some of their rolling stock in OO gauge at some point.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      Thanks David! Haven't tried much of their OO rolling stock honestly!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @timbervalleyproductions
    @timbervalleyproductions Год назад +9

    It's good to see some decent Heljan models! Btw, have you got an Accurascale 37 on order? I spoke with Richard (New Junction) from Accura the other day who mentioned the 37s are now in stock and the Manors a couple of weeks off, and the 31s not too far off! Can't wait!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад +3

      Thank you so much! Yes I do have one on order - hoping to see it soon! :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

    • @OlivierGabin
      @OlivierGabin Год назад +2

      @@SamsTrains Mine is expected at the end of the month (BR green with great yellow panels). Hope I'll get your test before !

  • @kenruble5292
    @kenruble5292 Год назад

    What is the scale width of typical rolling stock in the UK? In the US, typical width is 10 feet or 305 cm.

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios Год назад +2

    It's going to be a busy week for me Sam, because I just got a Resin 3d printer & I'm just setting it up now. I'll keep you updated.
    Cheers Jasper & Willow

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      That's super exciting - I really hope you have fun with it! :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @capecodsteve6575
    @capecodsteve6575 Год назад

    The best feature of this hopper at that price was that it had you say , " Warwell " !
    👍review

  • @emilioi.valdez6680
    @emilioi.valdez6680 Год назад

    Locomotives vs rolling stock, which is Heljan better at?

  • @levidarling5107
    @levidarling5107 Год назад

    I was right in you last Heljan unboxing Sam, but one thing I request Heljan to do is to make the prices reasonable, “come on now, BE REASONABLE.”

  • @davidballoid2118
    @davidballoid2118 Год назад

    Nice Piece of Rolling-Stock Sam, you could eat Fish a Chips out of it. 🐟🥔maybe put some Tarter Sauce in the open wagon to dip the fish in?🤣 @ $125, you'd think that the hatch would open up to dump ballast or some type of granular substance ? I'd say you could shoot some flat clear-coat on it to dull down the plastic shine, a lot of people end up doing that before and after weathering their Rolling Stock. 👍

  • @MrBnsftrain
    @MrBnsftrain Год назад

    Even Lionel doesn't charge that much for an O scale freight car! Unless it is one of their sound cars or one with other electronics installed. They charge about $50-$100 for full-scale cars that are much larger than this

  • @loona4133
    @loona4133 Год назад

    A catfish hopper. And I do love some o gauge trains. They are very nice but expensive. Anyway I have 2 new trains coming in and I will make videos about them. Make sure to check it out when I make them. Ur the best my friend. Hope to talk to u soon

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      They sure are! That sounds awesome - hope you enjoy your new trains :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @thatlittlefox.
    @thatlittlefox. Год назад

    0:18 Anyone else noticed Sir topham hatts car in the wagon.

  • @OwenBudd1
    @OwenBudd1 Год назад

    That is an eye-watering amount of money for what it is. Compare that to the G scale Box cars Bachmann produces, which are also all plastic with metal wheels, but they sell for $49.95 USD!

  • @robertlucido3686
    @robertlucido3686 Год назад

    Does that N scale track I sent you look good on your TT scale layout, also I noticed in your last video, did you review a Lionel HO scale Army Hospital train set

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      I haven't been able to try the track yet sadly, but I'm sure it will do! Thank you so much again! :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @FerroequinologistofColorado
    @FerroequinologistofColorado Год назад

    Great to see more O Gauge stuff

  • @brianmicky7596
    @brianmicky7596 Год назад

    Hi Sam, Very nice, I do like the O gauge, (not the price) All the best Brian 😃

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад +1

      Thanks a lot Brian - I'm a big fan of O gauge too! :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @IngerLee
    @IngerLee Год назад

    Is there import duty on the Danish products coming in to Britain? Living in Denmark I have to pay 30% + when I buy anything from the UK because of 'Brexit'

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      Not to us the end customer, as British retailers stock these items, so customers aren't doing any importing.
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @daylightman8459
    @daylightman8459 Год назад +1

    Well, here’s what I think:
    Is it made by Heljan? - Yes.
    Does it have a high price? - Yes.
    Yup, it’s not worth the money.

  • @OlivierGabin
    @OlivierGabin Год назад

    Heljan, the schadenfreude brand we love to tar an feather ! For the price of a small OO engine, what do we have ? Oversized box and full plastic, sounds bad... At least, it's a nice model.
    As is, correct at a sales price of GBP 50. Above : no. Outside the price, a good model.

  • @dustpanandthebrush5293
    @dustpanandthebrush5293 Год назад +2

    Yeah considering you can buy a good locomotive for the price of a wagon I'd want bells and whistles on it

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      Yeah definitely!!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @musoseven8218
    @musoseven8218 Год назад +2

    Even taking into account higher taxes in Denmark etc, and having been a modeller of 7mm since 2000, that is pricey!
    Heljan can have sketchy build quality too. The boxes are overkill and as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
    I'd like some, but not at that price. ECT are leading the way imho. Heljan have lost the plot!
    Thanks for the review, but it'll be a no from me, I've six kit built Dogfish, I'll probably go that route again.✌️👍😊

  • @countottovanshanoo822
    @countottovanshanoo822 Год назад +1

    How much? The moulding on the sole bars is terrible by O standards... Just finished an MMP Dogfish kit, £75 (inc. wheels, £65 or so for the Catfish kit) for a fantastically more detailed result! Plus you get to build it.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      I know - can't see any reason why it should cost that... crazy!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @Guitar6ty
    @Guitar6ty 8 месяцев назад

    £50 would be the maximum for that catfish. Those names for wagons were a security device to fox the Germans during WW2 so they would not know what was being moved.

  • @azuma892
    @azuma892 Год назад +3

    Yaay today was my last exam I can finally play with model trains now. 🤣

    • @azuma892
      @azuma892 Год назад

      I did get something wrong but for the most part don't think I did too bad, hopefully.

    • @michaelwhite8031
      @michaelwhite8031 Год назад +1

      Well done !

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад +1

      Ahh well done you!! I hope you enjoy a very well deserved break :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @briandesens144
    @briandesens144 Год назад

    Awesome video Sam's trains

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 Год назад

    Very Good Sam 🙂🚂🚂🚂

  • @PlatformONE
    @PlatformONE Год назад

    You can most likely get something similar for about $5 or £5.

  • @mrbluesky2050
    @mrbluesky2050 Год назад

    for that price I'd want the handbrake wheel to apply the blocks and the hopper wheel to bloody well open the doors... I'd rather go to hell in a hand cart than Heljan in a hopper wagon.....

  • @andrewdking
    @andrewdking Год назад

    Two waggon box, two waggon price !
    Looks nice though.

  • @ReallyUsefulPinkEngine29
    @ReallyUsefulPinkEngine29 Год назад

    Nice video!

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios Год назад

    5:20 Classic heljan for you. Lol

  • @Enzi_Meteori_902
    @Enzi_Meteori_902 Год назад

    I'd argue my 4 dollar 0 series Shinkansen i got just now is worth more

  • @williamweller7428
    @williamweller7428 Год назад +1

    William😂🎉 7:41

  • @modelrailfan37
    @modelrailfan37 Год назад

    Heljan are absolutely ridiculous with their pricing. I don’t know how people like their models and how their blasted company is still in business. Even Bachmann and dare I say it Hornby offer value for money than them, and I don’t at all think Hornby offer good value for money. At least the wagon looks good and runs good though, and if I’m honest it is a pretty neat design. Despite the bad value, it also had an OKAY score all things considered. Also, you should consider reviewing so O Scale American locomotives, just make sure your getting two rail and not three rail, as three rail is still quite common over here for O. Edit: where are the Stroudley coaches in your logbook?

  • @JustinFrazier_360
    @JustinFrazier_360 Год назад

    That is amazing

  • @nameless5413
    @nameless5413 Год назад

    plastics are being reduced everywhere but Heljan eh?
    *sigh*
    shame, ultimatley their cost to produce and deliver versus material and construction are skewed bit too far in their favour it seems.

  • @marktegrotenhuis
    @marktegrotenhuis Год назад

    That has such a cheap look for such an expensive model! 😲

  • @michaelwhite8031
    @michaelwhite8031 Год назад

    To be a catfish it would have to be purrrrrrrfect ;)

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      hahaha exactly!! ;D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @trainfan998
    @trainfan998 Год назад

    Your O gauge layout is so close to the edge.

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios Год назад

    Hey Sam I sent you a email on one of the members wagons about 1 day ago, can you pls send out the payment request, I hope I'm still not to late.
    Cheers Jasper & Willow

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      You aren't too late! I'll be getting to the last ones soon :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @williamweller7428
    @williamweller7428 Год назад +1

    Williamweller 7:04

  • @Alextrains502
    @Alextrains502 Год назад +1

    Hi

  • @peterforden5917
    @peterforden5917 Год назад

    I think that most of the model producers are no longer 'ENTHUSIASTS' but simply greedy individuals extracting the proverbial urine out of those who are unable to build the models themselves! I am thinking back to Mr Walkley who made the FIRST H.O. model railway (Walkley Yard it's on youtube usully paired with the shunting layout 'Inglenook Sidings', though it has one point more, HE made not only ALL the scenery but ALL of the rolling stock and track and pointwork etc as well as building the locomotive, to the extent that he also hand made the electric motor , hand winding it himself!! He personally invented a version of the coupling we still use today a century later! and all this in 1923 he first exhibited it before MÄRKLIN started mrketing the first H.O. set, he must have taken atleast 2/3 years to complete it from start to finish, though C.J.Freezer (?) well known to an earlier generation of enthusiast's, thought it would, due to Mr Walkley's apparently phenomenal rate of work have taken only ( ! ) a year,I think modern manufacturers take us the modelling public for mugs and are milking us for all they can, i is worth noting though that cows that are over milked develop complications and die! Our hobby is relatively unappealing to youth , not because of a lack of interest but because of a dire lack of funds! Where once you could buy reasonably detailed wagon or coach to be built into a good looking rake of wagons or coaches to be hauled along behind an Admittedly expensive model (ok £20/40 back in the 70's) for the cost of a few weeks of pocket money, now that is just wishful thinking. I think Frank Hornby is probably turning in his grave so fast that he could power the entire nations electrical needs. Where a model is ridiculously expensive Sam, you as an engineer could give us an idea as to what a model actually cost to produce and eventually how much the maker is profiting especially as both Hornby and Bachmann still sell models originally sold bck in the 60's an 70's, sorry for the rant, I could go on, but my finger (!) is in danger of exploding and bleeding :)
    7

  • @nigelcole1936
    @nigelcole1936 Год назад

    😀

  • @Imsorrywat
    @Imsorrywat Год назад

    It’s called a catfish hopper cause it catfishes your money

  • @Metal-Possum
    @Metal-Possum Год назад

    Heljan are Danish right? That would make it "Hel-yan", except Danish is a very guttural language with many pronunciations that make even less sense than French, so stuff a potato in your throat and try and sing every pronunciation for accurate results.

  • @johnleake5657
    @johnleake5657 Год назад

    Well worth the £25! Not worth the £100 mark-up...

  • @azuma892
    @azuma892 Год назад

    First! :)

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios Год назад

    First lol

  • @TheWGLOVER
    @TheWGLOVER Год назад

    What is this obsession with weight and diecast? Not necessary.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад +1

      It’s a personal preference of mine, not an obsession. If a model is plastic, it should be cheaper than models that are metal.

    • @frankmarkovcijr5459
      @frankmarkovcijr5459 Год назад +1

      @@SamsTrains I prefer diecast cars because I feel they are more when you pick them up and you feel the heft and quality. Most of us do not have club size o scale layout so we don't need to be able to run 50 or 60 cars in a train. I wish Lionel had never used plastic for locomotive shells because diecast shells would have added much to the traction effort of the locomotive. When you have a train of diecast cars you need locomotives with strong Goode motors in them. I love the way a train of diecast Hopper cars goes thumping across a set of diamond or through a switch just like a real train does. Putting model trains in an attic is not good because summer heat is prone to warping the cars especially in the smaller scales. Diecast freight car kits are simple and easy to put together. If you cannot put one together you should take up another hobby like watching grass grow or paint dry. I bought tons of diecast freight cars some of them on clearance all of them price the same or lower than the equivalent car in plastic. I am so glad I bought them when they were available. Your English rolling stock is very small compared to American prototypes that car should not be so expensive. Just my thought 💭. Best wishes from a fellow model railroader in America.

  • @martinpattison1567
    @martinpattison1567 Год назад

    Sam, you should not take 1/2 a star off the detail because another model has an etched maker's plate. You are reviewing this model and not doing a comparison with another wagon. Nice review anyway. Martin. (Thailand)

  • @kellyashfordtrains2642
    @kellyashfordtrains2642 Год назад +1

    Steam engines don't go fishing, lol. Hope you enjoyed my stories I sent to you via email.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Год назад

      haha maybe this one does!? I certainly did, thank you so much for them! :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)