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I think the reason the medical pod is only programmed for men is because its not meant for the crew, its specifically for Weyland in case of an emergency.
Thats the canonical reason, the entire expedition was built around Weyland, the medical pod was in his quarters and only for him. This is also why theres such a stark different in technology between the trilogy and Prometheus/Covenant. This was Weyland himself funding and participating in the expedition (and a fully supplied and kitted COLONY BUILDING MEGASHIP) vs: A random long outdated salvage/mining vessel Standard issue army grunts on a routine search and report An almost abandoned (slave labor) prison.
The field of medicine also holds a HEAVY bias towards male physiology so I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out the pod was just standard issue lol
Obviously! The alien franchise has always been a metaphor about capitalist exploitation of the lower classes (crew expendable, burke fucking over his fellow humans for a percentage, the material conditions of prisoners and guards on fiorina 161) and men's deep fear of emasculation, in this case by being made to give birth to its r a p i s t's child, a birth so brutal it always takes the life of the "mother"
“You guys are supposed to be scientist and doctors, there’s no way you can be this stupid” Yup! Pretty much sums up the way we felt watching some of these scenes 😂 This was a super interesting and fun breakdown!
"Humanity didn't evolve to become weird flesh crafters like us even though that's what we intended when we seeded their world and bailed, leaving zero guidance or means for them to do it that they could understand. We must eliminate them with bioweapons" That's like having a kid and leaving it on a doorstep then coming back in 40 years saying "Oops wrong, you were actually supposed to be a scat singer in an underground jazz band" then throw anthrax in their face.
Yeah the movie makes no sense on its face. Style over substance - there was something here, in terms of the makings of a good story, they just couldn't execute
They should've divided the engineers into two factions, one group that wanted humanity to grow and prosper as it is and the other wants to destroy humanity and start over.
@lanceupperrcut read somewhere it spent a long time in the cutting room floor with edits and reshoots so we probably lost a lot of context with that. Along with Ridley Scott just being crazy sometimes.
@@JakeBaldwin1they cut the scenes of the Engineer seeing human videos and object qnd happiness in the rescue ship and smiling. He had realized humanity wasn't all bad. But because ALIEN BAD KILL they removes that and did this. Also it was explained officially that the reason it immediately went for its mission again is because David had confirmed humans aren't great, David himself is the opposite of them in every way. A unorganic lifeforms that destroys life to exist, combine that with the humans actively fighting each other in the face of danger in front of him. Yeah valid honestly
Its weird just how good Fassbender was at playing a machine in these movies... He's like Robert Patrick in T2-levels of robotic. Like just HOW do you get to be THAT mechanical?
I first saw him in the film Shame and he played a very emotionally dead person who couldn't connect to people due to his sex addiction so I can see why he was chosen to play an android.
fassbender’s range is incredible. im a marvel fan (i deserve to be bullied, i know) and i think his performance as erik lensherr/magneto is super underrated. so much intense emotion, and then in this it’s a total 180
The deleted scenes/early script explain why the Engineers wanted to kill humanity and why the one goes apeshit on the crew. Super weird they didnt include it in the actual film, thus removing the entire point of the story lol
Coulda swore that Ripley Scott had to explain all that in some interview since as you said, none of it was in the movie. Which goes without saying: if somebody has to explain critical information not seen in a movie, its not good storytelling! 💀 who let Ridley Scott cook this💀💀
@@Sumblueguy41 I can only assume they decided to cover it in the sequel instead but ended up not doing that either. Honestly the whole thing is a mess lol
@@jamespeacock6135 Basically, the engineers periodically would check in on humans (thus the star charts), until we killed one of their emissaries. They got pissed and decided to reset the planet-sized ant farm.
I read the original script a long time ago but remember it was really good. Then Scott decided he wanted to do an ancient alien movie and had it rewritten.
If this movies shows us anything it's that nobody lives forever, which is good news considering Ridley Scott won't be able to prove he doesn't understand his own creations forever.
I played as a Krieger with a love for ancient Terran poetry. I died reciting Shakespeare. But more of the enemy died after I rolled high enough to set off my backpack nuke. RIP Sergeant Erkenbrach. Those Xenos had no chance.
@@AWEismaschine That's almost exactly what I did. I had spec'd my guy to be a sapper/demo specialist and we got lucky in a raid on a swarmed ammo dump that just so happened to have a tactical nuclear device. Being the resident boom expert, I naturally took possession of such a device.
I am SO GLAD you pointed out the MASSIVE problem with people hyperfocusing on looking for radio waves as signs of alien life, Roanoke! My thoughts exactly. Thank you!
The devil's advocate in me would like to suggest that it's possible that radio was used as a catch-all for EM transmissions in general. I could see somebody who is clueless on the subject calling radar radio or someone who actually is a specialist doing the same thing because they think the people they're talking to are ignorant and won't understand the difference.
Also with David having a suit it also allows for an extra source of oxygen in case anyone's suit fails.... He's wearing their backup and they're being so rude.... It's like mocking maids or butlers or even house keepers and janitors... Like why? They work for you, they assist you and not like you're gonna do the work they provide. David was BUILT to service others and they treat him so badly.... Like I know he's programmed to be "evil" or whatever but he probably wouldn't have escalated as he did or chose his targets if they were polite and civil to him
It shows how people are basically jerks and are only nice to other people because of repercussions. I read something where AI girlfriend apps are given tons of abuse by men. They actually enjoy being cruel to them. You can bet, if we had the technology for androids, female androids would be being abused by men.
yea, but I'll just be that guy lol, one of the reason is they all believe synths are incapable of hurting human because that's how they're programmed, and this had already imbedded in their(human) mind for decades, because the Bladerunner franchise is in the same universe, Weyland corp won beat the Tyrell corp, synths are considered more reliable than replicants
Level 4 Lab? Bro i wouldn't enter an unknown alien building with anything less than a full set of Mjolnir armor and high-caliber countermeasures in hand.
"You got your hazmat suit ready?" "My brother in Christ, I'm wearing a nanofiber bodysuit with titanium alloy armor plating, an energy shield, an AI in my head, and a loaded KS-23 6 gauge on my back."
I’ve heard a quote that sticks with me in reference to the Black Goo. “In short, anyone who comes into contact with it will give birth to monsters, or become a monster themselves.”
@@Godyeater The inclusion of the black goo in Romulus isn't something to be thankful for. Its a terrible inclusion and Prometheus and Covenant should be left where they deserve to be, in the dustbin.
@@SunTzu176 yes. The Ridley contamination of the stupid black goo has now infected Alien movies not directed by Ridley. The infection is spreading. It's horrid.
Watched a good video about this franchise and here's what I remember: the Engineers were peaceful and worshipped Nature. Humans were their "gift" as they seeded life on Earth, and they actually DID keep returning to guide early humans you can see that one of the cave paintings has a much larger figure compared to the humans nearby. Eventually humans rejected their creator's ideology and wanted to create their own form of life. The Engineers sent one last emissary, hinted at being Jesus, but their emissary was crucified, leading to the impending Exterminatus that the Engineers somehow didn't notice had failed.
7:26 "Did we ever solve the issue of the formation of organic compounds turned into cells?" Sounds like the very silly "life comes from non-life" argument! :3
OMG it's happening... the black Goo finally explained by Roanoke. And by the way, u can find the actor of Holloway by searching "the actor who is not Tom Hardy".
Did you know male angler fish fuse to the side of the female for nutrients and she will then be able to use his sperm whenever as he's now apart of her, and she can also have multiple males attached to her. The male don't look much like the females and can't see very well, so he uses scent to find her and then latches on, they can and will go miles to find a female. It's been awhile since I've studied this topic, so some details may be off.
To make a counter point to the last bit about why the engineer started attacking. The reason why he attacked was due to Weylands arrogance, its hinted in a deleted scene between the two. it is also mostly explained(not directly) in a cut script with the engineer, as Weyland asks his "maker" for immortality, the engineer immediately rebuttals angrily and asks him why. The engineer is already provoked as it is explained within that cut script that mortality and life was their greatest gift for humanity and to ask for something more/to live forever was supremely arrogant as what Weyland did. Not only did he do this but he propped himself as a creator like them, even though what he created was a poor imitation of what life actually is that being the androids he made. The engineer seeing this grew angry and proceeded to attack, everything that Weyland represented was an antithesis to what the engineers stood for since they considered creating life to require sacrifice and the whole point of living was to experience it, even death. Even if engineers seeded life they thought death was an important part of that natural cycle, killing the old so something new could grow in its stead I.E. the engineer sacrificing himself at the start of Prometheus to birth humanity.
@@NotPork All this stuff was literally in a deleted scene and cut script which follows very closley to what happend in the final cut of the movie lmfao
@NotPork The other commentor is right. My family has the movie with behind the scenes content. This is an actual deleted scene. It even has director commentary that explains pretty much what was said.
I guess that’s a cooler story but it makes no sense according to what Jesus spoke , even if you say god=alien, doesn’t really explain why Christ would tell everyone God/himself has salvation for them and love , opposite of this movie, pretty sure whoever came up with that theory doesn’t have a good understanding of the apocalypse (of the Bible)
@ alright say he’s fake all you want and we lie while your religion of science spreads the most lies ever, there’s so many reasons why you’re wrong and if you genuinely think that you have less of a brain then children and you may be a chikd, but I’ll only mention 1 reason , why would 4 people apostles lie about what Christ said? To be killed? I swear modern day reddit atheists don’t know anything, Christians didn’t immediately get power they were persecuted and killed for 300 years
@@sandrosliske alright say he’s fake all you want and we lie while your religion of science spreads the most lies ever, there’s so many reasons why you’re wrong and if you genuinely think that you have less of a brain then children and you may be a chikd, but I’ll only mention 1 reason , why would 4 people apostles lie about what Christ said? To be killed? I swear modern day reddit atheists don’t know anything, Christians didn’t immediately get power they were persecuted and killed for 300 years, so your sheep brain thinks people would lie about it just to get killed? Terrible logic
If memory serves, the Engineers obtained the "technology" of the goo from their god, the first Deacon. The Engineers were just space farers that came upon a sort of primal planet where the Deacon lived. The Deacon also appears to resemble the Starbeast, which I believe was supposed to be the name of the first Alien film, with a very different script. Anyway, the god dies, but the Engineers realize that their gods blood has bizarre properties on all life, so they begin experimenting with it and evolving, in an attempt to become higher lifeforms. In doing so, they seed other planets to "ascend" other life, as if it was some sort of gift. It went wrong with humans, because we never adapted past our violent nature, so the Engineers set out a plan to wipe us out and it failed.
To expand on that; they also wanted to wipe the slate clean due to Jesus bring taught by them, they saw humanity killing him as us being too far gone to allow to continue
Extended universe material ended up clarifying that the Facehuggers actually deposit a modified version of the Pathogen depicted here, which uses the host's cells to construct an embryo carrying the basic genetic structure of the Xenomorph species, albeit taking on some of the traits of the host. Though Xenomorphs aren't immune to Pathogen itself as seen in *Aliens: Fireteam Elite* and its DLC.
One of the worst inclusions in the series, that destabalised and decanonized decades of aliens lore from the EU. Much is said about Disney's handling of Star Wars, but for the Alien franchise, Prometheus and Covenant did the same thing. I frankly dont care that Scott himself was behind this, the franchise has moved past his limited "vision" the idea that some of the best content in the franchise is no longer canon because Scott wanted to make some Hollywood "deep" philosophy 101 slop pisses me off the no end. I refuse to acknowledge the film and covenant myself, and thankfully stuff like Aliens Dark Descent seems to ignore it too. Romulus was alright up until they tried to shoehorn this slops inclusion near the end. Which it then went off the rails and retroactively made the entire film worse. PSA for anyone who hasnt seen it, when they get back to the ship and the main character puts the pregnant character in cryo. Just stop watching, thats the end of the film, they made it. Leave the theatre or turn it off. DO NOT continue, you will only hurt yourself.
@@SunTzu176dude calm down. Not all of us get butthurt and pissed off no end because a movie goes in a direction we don't like. LOL If we don't like it, we don't like it. Not all of us go into an existential crisis because of badly written movies
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 Beautiful strawman you built. Im not butthurt, pissed off, or going into an existential crisis. If I feel anything, its depressed.
@@SunTzu176 dude you wrote the exact words "pisses me off the no end" in your earlier comment. LOL In any case it's wierd that you think being depressed over a movie you don't like makes any more sense than being pissed off about it.
Watching this movie i always imagine a scene where Roanoke goes to the ocean and release the black goo at the anglerfish and the he says: _Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!_ That would be glorious.
Heres the gist of what the engineer says. E-man: "Why are you intruding here?" David: ‘This man is here because he does not want to die. He believes you can give him more life’. E-man: "what makes you worthy of something like that." David: “You see this man pointing to David my company built him from nothing. I made him and made him in my own image so he would be perfect so he would never fail. I deserve this because you and I we are superiors we are creators we are gods and gods never die. E-man: ”Many worlds have been crafted by the hand of our fathers through the blood of our lord. Yours was the only one that was successful. The Star child of the universe. Yours is the only star child that is like our home world. He also mentions that they have been watching us and were concerned by our violent nature and even tried to course correct us by abducting and teaching jesus christ and returing him to guide us but we punished him instead. He goes ballistic because they kept beating shaw which reinforced the fact that even after all this time we have not changed and also because the old dude tries to justify being on equal terms with the engineers because he created david. Which is why he decapitates david. Also neat fact the engineers live for hundreds of thousands of years and speaking cost them decades off their lifespans.
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Recaps are not reviews. WAY too many “reviewers” just recap the plots, sprinkle in a few jokes and leave it at that. It irritates me. Try harder, guys.
@@kishaa819I didn't mind the space truckers in the first movie being dumb. They were basically just cargo transporters. The soldiers in the second movie were just overconfident and the company they worked for screwed them over. All of that was understandable. There is no excuse for the level of stupidity in Prometheus and Covenant
Peter Weyland really had Albert Wesker (RE1R) vibes when encountering the Engineer. "It's magnificent..." before taking a mass of chitinous claws through his guts.
I was eating when mans said “gets thrown around like a baby in a dryer”. Do not watch these vids when eating, not because they’re sciencey goopy but because the commentary will make you choke from laughter
If our world heads into some form of invasion, zombies, or aliens, I'm immediately heading to wherever Roanoke is as I have full faith that he'll protect me with his knowledge.
The odds are we,ll end blowing ourselves and earth to kingdom come loooooooong before any alien civilization comes to earth to invade. And if the aliens are smart they,d not even bother bcs we as race are just a waste of time. Look at how we treat each other, Look at how we treat the Planet. Aliens would take one Look at us n be like meh... no point in msking any effort for Diplomatie or any other Form of contact... lets just leave them to theyr ignorant violent nature n watch them destroy themselves 😂😂😂
Why everyone seems to miss this, The Goo the Engineer drank at the beginning was not the black goo, it was the natural blood of a Deacon (golden goo). The last of it the Engineers had. The black goo was the engineers attempt to synthisize the Deacon's blood. It was a failure and they decided to use it as a weapon
@@naedanger123 I hate it when movies leave out important information that would make the movie at least make sense. It seems like they intentionally leave out information that you have to go to other mediums (books, comics, shows, etc) to get. It seems just like a cheap way of making more money.
33:36 Fun anecdote: I only watched this movie when it came out on TV and I had never seen the wound being stapled and apparently that's because it was cut from the TV version for some reason (when the part where they cut her open was left), so I was today years old when I first saw the wound getting closed :)
18:23 the worst part is, this could be a really interesting conversation. Like a machine who knew its creators its entire life would have a very different perspective on the significance of meeting them as opposed to a person who feels like they just missed their chance. But instead its just a cheap way to make david hate the guy enough to experiment on him.
@@NotPork Dude, Ridley said it, I remember the interview. Now could I be remembering wrong, sure, did he have issues and should be laughed off, sure. But still.
You are correct actually, the other guy is dumb - watch the extended version of this movie, or even better look into the original script - the engineer literally tells us why he’s mad
Ridley also originally had the idea that Xenomorph eggs come from humans converted into eggs. The same humans they need to host in the first place. He wasn’t really great with the whole world building aspect of his own IP.
I think the Engineers wanted to kill humanity off because we, as seemingly the only other species willing to build advanced interconnected space-born civilizations, were a huge threat to the Engineers. I guess that the Engineers never intended to give rise to anything remotely close to themselves regarding intellect and technology. The Engineers saw humanity at arguably one of our cruelest moments (slavery, Roman conquests, biohazardous plagues from Asia, etc) and the Engineers extrapolated what we could be like if we got to space. Not good in their eyes!
In the cut script the engineers sent down one of there own to lead humanity which was Jesus Christ ( sounds crazy but it is in the cut script) and since we killed Jesus Christ they got pissed at us and wanted to kill us all, which is why the ship holding the bio weaponized goo was heading towards earth.
According to Newton 2nd law, entropy, this universe/this reality is constantly moving towards a state where it's more chaos, however human is the only known species that constantly trying to build order, one can say that human is constantly defying God, so I can see why the engineers want to end humanity
That's one thing I've never understood in Sci-Fi.... how do you "scan for life signatures"? Wouldn't it just be scanning for heat signatures? Movement? CO2 release? Like yeah it's Sci-Fi they probably have super advanced scanners than can find idk pulses on the planet surface or something, but yeah I've never understood how it'd be possible to scan for something living.
I know this idea gets a lot of flak from people online, but: it's because the audience will understand "scan for life signs" but won't understand "scan for this, that, and the other thing". Also because writers tend not to have a ton of real scientific knowledge. Not a knock on them, just a fact.
It could be because their devices are capable of conducting some kind of multi-faceted scan for various indications of life, and so instead of listing them all off they just say “scan for life signatures”.
Some of the doctors I've met could not find themselves out of a wet paper bag. They know every medicine ever made, but also thought you needed to add engine oil to their lawn mower every time it needed gas.
9:58 I never thought of it like that but the image of a Spartan bouncing around an escape pod like a rock tumbler cracks me up 😂 "Master Chief, you mind telling me why nobody else walked out of that vehicle?"
I'd love to see you cover "the Autopsy of Jane Doe" while it's not necessarily a creature, the science behind it would be really interesting and how exactly a "witch" would influence the world around her or if it's actually all a hallucination after all!
*The last engineer comes out of hyperspace and moves to begin bombing earth.* [1 minute later] Due to failure to obey commands to identify, open dialogue, or even respond to radio hails, a 2000 kg Tungsten slug is punched through his ship at 50% the speed of light from the orbital Super MAC platform Malta. The engineer and his ship are vaporized entirely. Thus ends the last of our "superior" creators.
It would be pretty amusing if we hit an extreme technological boom from the time they left to the time they arrived, which might have happened if the engineer actually made it to earth at this time
The reason* the Engineers despise humanity is because we have zero survival skills, which is made blatantly obvious by the whole crew's lack of any sort of awareness for their own safety. *From what I recall in previous/future movie's lore.
The problem with that idea is if that would have been the case they merely had to wait us killing ourselves out rather than take action against humanity, I feel Roanoke's idea make more sense... however that being said considering movie logic it could be something far more stupid.
@@DecrepitSundew3 If humanity had the level of stupidity of this crew we would have been extinct a long time ago. I'm not even that big of an Alien fan but the new movies take the cliché of stupid horror movie characters to another level.
The reason they wanted to kill is because we killed Jesus (I shit you not) Basically they planted life on earth then later came to check how the kids are doing but all they saw was gay spartan and Roman empire killing everyone So they said we need to tell them to chill a bit they send an envoy (jesus) =>killing crucifixion happened => Alien be like "ohh hello naah y'all need to go" =>Military move was launched =>containment error happened =>everyone die except one alien => the movie happened
Actually they hates us because we were violent and when they sent an envoy to help us learn peace and harmony we crucified them so they deemed our race too violent. (Yes in the alien universe jesus was an alien engineer)
@@DirtSpud "How many times we gotta teach you this lesson old man" implies that the offspring (humans) defeated their father (the engineer). On multiple occasions. You said it.
But they were that stupid. The crew was hand picked by Vickers, she wanted the whole thing to go wrong, just to spite daddy. Explains the "Pups", he knew how they worked, yet not enough to get out.
As chaotic as this film was, their lack of surprise finding even a long dead tomb is due to the experience of contact with some other worlds with animal life on them. Some that required the Marines to deal with as colony defence. This is why Hudson (Aliens 1986) said "Is this another BUG HUNT sarge?". There is a novel that tells of one of these times.
A "bug hunt" is a military tactical term meaning a guerilla warfare style where they have to search out the enemy. It doesn't have to do with fighting actual bugs or creatures so Hudson wasn't talking about encounters with other alien life when he said that.
Just learned today that Alien is in the same universe as Blade Runner and the reason Wayland's daughter isnt throwing up etc like the rest of the crew is because she's a replicant, and Idris character even asks if she's a robot. so... do with that info as you will :-D i just found it really cool.
I watched the (once) great Ridley Scott do three different interviews over 3 years. He was, imo, intoxicated in every interview (the latest was at the Romulus premiere) I believe he was SO great that no one told him what to do and he wrote this story drunk and/or with a brain long affected by alcohol abuse. He was a truly great movie maker once.
Random fun fact the Deacon (the thing that came out of the Maker dude) not only survived BUT BECAME A FREAK MOUNTAIN this is not a joke it’s freaking insane!
25:12 I've seen several different reviews of Prometheus, but this is the first time I realized how stupid the Engineers are. If we mere humans wanted to seed a planet with our DNA, we'd just replicate a bunch of it in a capsule and then mix it with the goo. I guess it takes an Engineer-level IQ to instead self-destruct🤦♂️ This whole movie is one giant facepalm
For engineers it was more of religious act, just look at that scene, that's clearly ritual. And self-sacrifice is pretty common in various religions here on Earth too...
Yeah, that way of thinking is probably one of the reasons why they wanted to get rid of humanity. Creating new life without the sacrifice of the old leads to the past enslaving the future, point of evidence Weyland and David.
i did hear that half pushup, where your chest don't touch the floor, can be beneficial for the arms but not the chest. not sure why hollywood loves showing that pushup like it somehow badass or something, since in reality it means the person is not strong enough to do full pushup :p
Actors usually take multiple shots for a scene. Doing full range of motion takes too much energy and you'll have wait like 10 minutes per shot to recuperate your energy.
@@kingpotato7183 use body double, multiple cameras in various angles, and other techniques to cover that up. it's not low budget movies that fall to this problem.
2:32 As a college student who’s going into marine biology and also has pet snakes, I feel called out but also seen (corn snake named Veggie Straw, very good girl, and a baby hognose named Toastie)
I remember seeing a video where they talked about an engineer went to Earth about 2,000 years ago and was supposed to be Jesus and when they rejected him that's when they knew they needed to destroy the planet. That was supposed to be the original script concept for the movie but they knew they would have gotten much backlash for that so they changed it.
And in another, Jesus was human but was taken to their home world and taught to better humanity, but after he was killed they saw humanity being too barbaric
I have never seen a scientist so annoyed at other scientists being flagrantly stupid. This is endlessly entertaining. The snark with which these lines are delivered rival that of CinemaSins and i am here for it. We need you to review more movies with dumb scientists in them.
you MUST WATCH DELETED SCENES to understand this movie, its actually crazy how the final cut of this movie looks because it makes 0 sense without prior knowledge
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Lord Roanoke the community calls for subnautica, heath it's call
To add more extra pain to this movie :the original script was more filosofical and profound, but It got ditched
Day 5 of asking Roanoke to face his fears and cover subnautica.
Yo good idea is Support that
Or maybe he can cover the angler fish and why it's a stain on this planet
Broskey be bringing up angler fish outta nowhere this man is not covering subnautica 🤣🤣🤣
He's just waiting for it to go on a Steam sale :D
Halloween special right there
I think the reason the medical pod is only programmed for men is because its not meant for the crew, its specifically for Weyland in case of an emergency.
That was the twist the whole time.
Thats the canonical reason, the entire expedition was built around Weyland, the medical pod was in his quarters and only for him.
This is also why theres such a stark different in technology between the trilogy and Prometheus/Covenant. This was Weyland himself funding and participating in the expedition (and a fully supplied and kitted COLONY BUILDING MEGASHIP) vs:
A random long outdated salvage/mining vessel
Standard issue army grunts on a routine search and report
An almost abandoned (slave labor) prison.
The field of medicine also holds a HEAVY bias towards male physiology so I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turns out the pod was just standard issue lol
@@bluej3262no cuz speak on it this was my second thought too! Women aren't very heavily considered as we like to think in the medical field 😭
Obviously! The alien franchise has always been a metaphor about capitalist exploitation of the lower classes (crew expendable, burke fucking over his fellow humans for a percentage, the material conditions of prisoners and guards on fiorina 161) and men's deep fear of emasculation, in this case by being made to give birth to its r a p i s t's child, a birth so brutal it always takes the life of the "mother"
“You guys are supposed to be scientist and doctors, there’s no way you can be this stupid” Yup! Pretty much sums up the way we felt watching some of these scenes 😂 This was a super interesting and fun breakdown!
Is how many feel about modern “scientists”, no real brains just names and pay checks to pander which ever bull shit is more marketable.
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That’s because these guys weren’t hired to be scientists, they were hired to create life.
What a twist, wild seeing you guys here!
Ari and Denise watch RoanokeGaming!?!? MIND BLOWN!! You guys are seriously goated! I was not expecting to see you guys here! :D
"Humanity didn't evolve to become weird flesh crafters like us even though that's what we intended when we seeded their world and bailed, leaving zero guidance or means for them to do it that they could understand. We must eliminate them with bioweapons"
That's like having a kid and leaving it on a doorstep then coming back in 40 years saying "Oops wrong, you were actually supposed to be a scat singer in an underground jazz band" then throw anthrax in their face.
Yeah the movie makes no sense on its face. Style over substance - there was something here, in terms of the makings of a good story, they just couldn't execute
They should've divided the engineers into two factions, one group that wanted humanity to grow and prosper as it is and the other wants to destroy humanity and start over.
@lanceupperrcut read somewhere it spent a long time in the cutting room floor with edits and reshoots so we probably lost a lot of context with that. Along with Ridley Scott just being crazy sometimes.
@@JakeBaldwin1they cut the scenes of the Engineer seeing human videos and object qnd happiness in the rescue ship and smiling. He had realized humanity wasn't all bad. But because ALIEN BAD KILL they removes that and did this. Also it was explained officially that the reason it immediately went for its mission again is because David had confirmed humans aren't great, David himself is the opposite of them in every way. A unorganic lifeforms that destroys life to exist, combine that with the humans actively fighting each other in the face of danger in front of him. Yeah valid honestly
@@lanceupperrcut The design of the spaceship was the only cool part.
Its weird just how good Fassbender was at playing a machine in these movies... He's like Robert Patrick in T2-levels of robotic. Like just HOW do you get to be THAT mechanical?
I first saw him in the film Shame and he played a very emotionally dead person who couldn't connect to people due to his sex addiction so I can see why he was chosen to play an android.
fassbender’s range is incredible. im a marvel fan (i deserve to be bullied, i know) and i think his performance as erik lensherr/magneto is super underrated. so much intense emotion, and then in this it’s a total 180
He IS a robot!
The deleted scenes/early script explain why the Engineers wanted to kill humanity and why the one goes apeshit on the crew. Super weird they didnt include it in the actual film, thus removing the entire point of the story lol
Coulda swore that Ripley Scott had to explain all that in some interview since as you said, none of it was in the movie. Which goes without saying: if somebody has to explain critical information not seen in a movie, its not good storytelling! 💀
who let Ridley Scott cook this💀💀
@@Sumblueguy41 I can only assume they decided to cover it in the sequel instead but ended up not doing that either. Honestly the whole thing is a mess lol
@@jamespeacock6135 Basically, the engineers periodically would check in on humans (thus the star charts), until we killed one of their emissaries. They got pissed and decided to reset the planet-sized ant farm.
I read the original script a long time ago but remember it was really good. Then Scott decided he wanted to do an ancient alien movie and had it rewritten.
If this movies shows us anything it's that nobody lives forever, which is good news considering Ridley Scott won't be able to prove he doesn't understand his own creations forever.
I just realized that with that one line, "Because we could." Symbiote (I forgot his name) is to blame for David's crazy creation spree.
Oof
"who wants to be the ruler of a pile of irradiated ash?" *Insert Krieger with shovel here*
"This will planet exist to serve the Emporer or it won't exist at all"
YES
I played as a Krieger with a love for ancient Terran poetry. I died reciting Shakespeare. But more of the enemy died after I rolled high enough to set off my backpack nuke.
RIP Sergeant Erkenbrach. Those Xenos had no chance.
@@jefferymosdell2490 Bro levelled up from overcharging his lasgun battery, to overcharging his hotshot lasgun pack to just a tac nuke in the ruck
@@AWEismaschine That's almost exactly what I did. I had spec'd my guy to be a sapper/demo specialist and we got lucky in a raid on a swarmed ammo dump that just so happened to have a tactical nuclear device. Being the resident boom expert, I naturally took possession of such a device.
Miss Ma'am running and doing all that after a c section is the craziest thing in this movie. The pain alone would be unbearable.
Maybe that injector she kept using was morphine?
I am SO GLAD you pointed out the MASSIVE problem with people hyperfocusing on looking for radio waves as signs of alien life, Roanoke! My thoughts exactly. Thank you!
The devil's advocate in me would like to suggest that it's possible that radio was used as a catch-all for EM transmissions in general. I could see somebody who is clueless on the subject calling radar radio or someone who actually is a specialist doing the same thing because they think the people they're talking to are ignorant and won't understand the difference.
@@Mesterick That that's possible.
Also with David having a suit it also allows for an extra source of oxygen in case anyone's suit fails.... He's wearing their backup and they're being so rude.... It's like mocking maids or butlers or even house keepers and janitors... Like why? They work for you, they assist you and not like you're gonna do the work they provide. David was BUILT to service others and they treat him so badly.... Like I know he's programmed to be "evil" or whatever but he probably wouldn't have escalated as he did or chose his targets if they were polite and civil to him
Yep and as pointed out in this video, not Tom Hardy doomed himself with how he was talking to David in that scene.
Oh boy did you watch romolus yet?
It shows how people are basically jerks and are only nice to other people because of repercussions. I read something where AI girlfriend apps are given tons of abuse by men. They actually enjoy being cruel to them. You can bet, if we had the technology for androids, female androids would be being abused by men.
yea, but I'll just be that guy lol, one of the reason is they all believe synths are incapable of hurting human because that's how they're programmed, and this had already imbedded in their(human) mind for decades, because the Bladerunner franchise is in the same universe, Weyland corp won beat the Tyrell corp, synths are considered more reliable than replicants
(David) is a robot, therefore has no feelings or emotions and would have most likely still killed everyone regardless.
Level 4 Lab? Bro i wouldn't enter an unknown alien building with anything less than a full set of Mjolnir armor and high-caliber countermeasures in hand.
Yeah, a one dude security team does not a security team make.
I’d probably need the Leviathan Axe too😂
And they would have been prepared to, as Ripley put it, “nuke the site from orbit.”
"You got your hazmat suit ready?"
"My brother in Christ, I'm wearing a nanofiber bodysuit with titanium alloy armor plating, an energy shield, an AI in my head, and a loaded KS-23 6 gauge on my back."
This guy gets it.
I’ve heard a quote that sticks with me in reference to the Black Goo.
“In short, anyone who comes into contact with it will give birth to monsters, or become a monster themselves.”
Romulus has thankfully kept that true
@@GodyeaterYes, “thankfully.”
@@Godyeater The inclusion of the black goo in Romulus isn't something to be thankful for. Its a terrible inclusion and Prometheus and Covenant should be left where they deserve to be, in the dustbin.
@@SunTzu176 the specific mutagen.
@@SunTzu176 yes. The Ridley contamination of the stupid black goo has now infected Alien movies not directed by Ridley. The infection is spreading. It's horrid.
Watched a good video about this franchise and here's what I remember: the Engineers were peaceful and worshipped Nature. Humans were their "gift" as they seeded life on Earth, and they actually DID keep returning to guide early humans you can see that one of the cave paintings has a much larger figure compared to the humans nearby. Eventually humans rejected their creator's ideology and wanted to create their own form of life. The Engineers sent one last emissary, hinted at being Jesus, but their emissary was crucified, leading to the impending Exterminatus that the Engineers somehow didn't notice had failed.
7:26 "Did we ever solve the issue of the formation of organic compounds turned into cells?"
Sounds like the very silly "life comes from non-life" argument! :3
OMG it's happening... the black Goo finally explained by Roanoke. And by the way, u can find the actor of Holloway by searching "the actor who is not Tom Hardy".
I definitely tried this just now 😂😂
This actually works 😭
He was great in "UPGRADE."
The one that's not Charlie Hunn. Lol
Logan Marshall Green screams with all his heart "IT SHOULD'VE BEEN MEEEEEE" every time he sees Bane
The Angler must be destroyed. Roanoke, you must cover subnautica.
Did you know male angler fish fuse to the side of the female for nutrients and she will then be able to use his sperm whenever as he's now apart of her, and she can also have multiple males attached to her. The male don't look much like the females and can't see very well, so he uses scent to find her and then latches on, they can and will go miles to find a female. It's been awhile since I've studied this topic, so some details may be off.
To make a counter point to the last bit about why the engineer started attacking.
The reason why he attacked was due to Weylands arrogance, its hinted in a deleted scene between the two.
it is also mostly explained(not directly) in a cut script with the engineer, as Weyland asks his "maker" for immortality, the engineer immediately rebuttals angrily and asks him why. The engineer is already provoked as it is explained within that cut script that mortality and life was their greatest gift for humanity and to ask for something more/to live forever was supremely arrogant as what Weyland did. Not only did he do this but he propped himself as a creator like them, even though what he created was a poor imitation of what life actually is that being the androids he made.
The engineer seeing this grew angry and proceeded to attack, everything that Weyland represented was an antithesis to what the engineers stood for since they considered creating life to require sacrifice and the whole point of living was to experience it, even death.
Even if engineers seeded life they thought death was an important part of that natural cycle, killing the old so something new could grow in its stead I.E. the engineer sacrificing himself at the start of Prometheus to birth humanity.
THIS IS LITERALLY FAN-FICTION. STOP SPREADING FALSE INFO
@@NotPork All this stuff was literally in a deleted scene and cut script which follows very closley to what happend in the final cut of the movie lmfao
@NotPork The other commentor is right. My family has the movie with behind the scenes content. This is an actual deleted scene. It even has director commentary that explains pretty much what was said.
@@rozu7772 the footage needs to be restored.
@@NotPork THIS IS NOT FAN FICTION YOU TROGLODYTE!
"What is this dude's problem with humanity?" And this is why the version of the script where Jesus was sent by the engineers was important.
That sounds awesome. Also, the Engineers must be really slow to react.
I guess that’s a cooler story but it makes no sense according to what Jesus spoke , even if you say god=alien, doesn’t really explain why Christ would tell everyone God/himself has salvation for them and love , opposite of this movie, pretty sure whoever came up with that theory doesn’t have a good understanding of the apocalypse (of the Bible)
@@david-468 that can be explained away with people wanting to create a religion or following. After the fact you can have him say whatever you want.
@ alright say he’s fake all you want and we lie while your religion of science spreads the most lies ever, there’s so many reasons why you’re wrong and if you genuinely think that you have less of a brain then children and you may be a chikd, but I’ll only mention 1 reason , why would 4 people apostles lie about what Christ said? To be killed? I swear modern day reddit atheists don’t know anything, Christians didn’t immediately get power they were persecuted and killed for 300 years
@@sandrosliske alright say he’s fake all you want and we lie while your religion of science spreads the most lies ever, there’s so many reasons why you’re wrong and if you genuinely think that you have less of a brain then children and you may be a chikd, but I’ll only mention 1 reason , why would 4 people apostles lie about what Christ said? To be killed? I swear modern day reddit atheists don’t know anything, Christians didn’t immediately get power they were persecuted and killed for 300 years, so your sheep brain thinks people would lie about it just to get killed? Terrible logic
If memory serves, the Engineers obtained the "technology" of the goo from their god, the first Deacon. The Engineers were just space farers that came upon a sort of primal planet where the Deacon lived. The Deacon also appears to resemble the Starbeast, which I believe was supposed to be the name of the first Alien film, with a very different script. Anyway, the god dies, but the Engineers realize that their gods blood has bizarre properties on all life, so they begin experimenting with it and evolving, in an attempt to become higher lifeforms. In doing so, they seed other planets to "ascend" other life, as if it was some sort of gift. It went wrong with humans, because we never adapted past our violent nature, so the Engineers set out a plan to wipe us out and it failed.
To expand on that; they also wanted to wipe the slate clean due to Jesus bring taught by them, they saw humanity killing him as us being too far gone to allow to continue
@@jamestomlin5525that was only an early idea that was scrapped before a full script had even been made.
@@adventwolfbaneisn’t there a deleted scene from Prometheus where the engineer says that to David though?
Sounds like the Engineers have some things in common with the Pthumerians from Bloodborne.
@COOLAUSTINO yes there is
Extended universe material ended up clarifying that the Facehuggers actually deposit a modified version of the Pathogen depicted here, which uses the host's cells to construct an embryo carrying the basic genetic structure of the Xenomorph species, albeit taking on some of the traits of the host. Though Xenomorphs aren't immune to Pathogen itself as seen in *Aliens: Fireteam Elite* and its DLC.
One of the worst inclusions in the series, that destabalised and decanonized decades of aliens lore from the EU. Much is said about Disney's handling of Star Wars, but for the Alien franchise, Prometheus and Covenant did the same thing. I frankly dont care that Scott himself was behind this, the franchise has moved past his limited "vision" the idea that some of the best content in the franchise is no longer canon because Scott wanted to make some Hollywood "deep" philosophy 101 slop pisses me off the no end.
I refuse to acknowledge the film and covenant myself, and thankfully stuff like Aliens Dark Descent seems to ignore it too. Romulus was alright up until they tried to shoehorn this slops inclusion near the end. Which it then went off the rails and retroactively made the entire film worse. PSA for anyone who hasnt seen it, when they get back to the ship and the main character puts the pregnant character in cryo. Just stop watching, thats the end of the film, they made it. Leave the theatre or turn it off. DO NOT continue, you will only hurt yourself.
@@SunTzu176dude calm down. Not all of us get butthurt and pissed off no end because a movie goes in a direction we don't like. LOL
If we don't like it, we don't like it. Not all of us go into an existential crisis because of badly written movies
@@SunTzu176 it’s not dissimilar to stuff in the William Gibson script so it’s hardly inclusion.
Also anyone listening keep watching Romulus it’s fun
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 Beautiful strawman you built. Im not butthurt, pissed off, or going into an existential crisis.
If I feel anything, its depressed.
@@SunTzu176 dude you wrote the exact words "pisses me off the no end" in your earlier comment. LOL
In any case it's wierd that you think being depressed over a movie you don't like makes any more sense than being pissed off about it.
Watching this movie i always imagine a scene where Roanoke goes to the ocean and release the black goo at the anglerfish and the he says:
_Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!_
That would be glorious.
That would def result in a land capable angler fish monster. OP is def an angler fish.
That would make them an actual problem. 😅
this is how you give anglers legs and acid blood >_
Ozymandias mentioned :)
“The vAsEs” spoken with more aggression and exhaustion as the video progresses 🙏🤣
Heres the gist of what the engineer says.
E-man: "Why are you intruding here?"
David: ‘This man is here because he does not want to die. He believes you can give him more life’.
E-man: "what makes you worthy of something like that."
David: “You see this man pointing to David my company built him from nothing. I made him and made him in my own image so he would be perfect so he would never fail. I deserve this because you and I we are superiors we are creators we are gods and gods never die.
E-man: ”Many worlds have been crafted by the hand of our fathers
through the blood of our lord. Yours was the only one that was successful. The Star child of the universe.
Yours is the only star child that is like our home world.
He also mentions that they have been watching us and were concerned by our violent nature and even tried to course correct us by abducting and teaching jesus christ and returing him to guide us but we punished him instead.
He goes ballistic because they kept beating shaw which reinforced the fact that even after all this time we have not changed and also because the old dude tries to justify being on equal terms with the engineers because he created david. Which is why he decapitates david.
Also neat fact the engineers live for hundreds of thousands of years and speaking cost them decades off their lifespans.
Roanoke: "I'm not a film reviewer"
RUclips: I see you watched a Roanoke Gaming video, here's a bunch of film recap videos and movie shorts we recommend!
This is a re-upload.
Recaps are not reviews. WAY too many “reviewers” just recap the plots, sprinkle in a few jokes and leave it at that. It irritates me. Try harder, guys.
@@thatkidwiththehoodie that's the worst part, those are the majority
@@thatkidwiththehoodieCinema Sins:
@@thatkidwiththehoodie foundflix
In cut versions, the geologist mutations were much more xenomorph in design
The original ones, they looked so bad ass
Roanoke’s greatest fear:
The Angler Fish with Batman levels of Prep time
That "brings me back to college" tripple threat was your best joke so far, I had such a good hearty laugh about this
“The Prometheus school of running away from things” is a disturbingly regular part of my vocabulary
I HATED the INCOMPETENCE of these "SCIENTISTS" in this movie so damn much when i watched this garbo. 😂
This and more or less all the Alien movies 😭
Alien Covenant: "Hold my black goo."
@@kishaa819 Not really
RUclipsr Media Zealot and Critical-Drinker have also covered
this Film.
And with covered i mean ridiculed
@@kishaa819I didn't mind the space truckers in the first movie being dumb. They were basically just cargo transporters. The soldiers in the second movie were just overconfident and the company they worked for screwed them over. All of that was understandable.
There is no excuse for the level of stupidity in Prometheus and Covenant
With science team this incompetent skipping to human testing at the vaguest possible consent was the best option .
To be honest tho, humans do pretty stupid stuff like living with tigers etc and then they die.
David technically asked him "how far are you willing to go" and the results speak for themselves.
@@_GeneralMechanics_ and only a psychopath would take it to that level or a Nazi.
@@randallbesch2424David is not a human, he cannot be a "psychopath or a Nazi" because he was no morality whatsoever.
@@randallbesch2424 The synthetics have always been off
Peter Weyland really had Albert Wesker (RE1R) vibes when encountering the Engineer. "It's magnificent..." before taking a mass of chitinous claws through his guts.
I was so hyped up for the TED talk Peter weyland. I’m sad we saw a very lukewarm depiction of him.
roanoke casually throwing in memes from ifunny will always be the funniest shit to me
Bro i love your rants "the exposure you would be exposed too"😂
Pacific rim made me laugh way harder than i should admit
I will die on this planet. I will die on Armageddon.
@@nukekilla432true, I guess
Prometheus: "It's the most idiotic space exploring crew ever"
Covenant: "Hold my beer..."
RUclipsr Media Zealot and Critical-Drinker have also covered
this Film. And with covered i mean ridiculed
Yea to credit Prometheus they at least WORE suits at first
Both movies share one braincell but Prometheus took all of it for itself
@@slevinchannel7589it must not be too bad then.
I don't know why, I thought you were talking about The Covenant from Halo.
I hope that Mountains of Madness movie actually comes out someday, I’d love to see Roanoke’s break down of a Shoggoth.
I was eating when mans said “gets thrown around like a baby in a dryer”. Do not watch these vids when eating, not because they’re sciencey goopy but because the commentary will make you choke from laughter
"Thrown around like a baby in a dryer" is a simile I never expected to hear in a Prometheus video.
If our world heads into some form of invasion, zombies, or aliens, I'm immediately heading to wherever Roanoke is as I have full faith that he'll protect me with his knowledge.
You should find Nerd Explains while at it, as he’ll employ whatever plans needed which will likely keep you alive.
He’d let you get infected to film a new video, starting with your feet…
The odds are we,ll end blowing ourselves and earth to kingdom come loooooooong before any alien civilization comes to earth to invade. And if the aliens are smart they,d not even bother bcs we as race are just a waste of time. Look at how we treat each other, Look at how we treat the Planet. Aliens would take one Look at us n be like meh... no point in msking any effort for Diplomatie or any other Form of contact... lets just leave them to theyr ignorant violent nature n watch them destroy themselves 😂😂😂
10:48 Most people don’t know this, but your geological location is stored in the balls.
So is most women's last meal today.
"The engineer literally, no joke mews at them."😂😂😂😂
I love the fact that the deacon just straight up turns into a mountain
Roanoke everytime he's having a severe migraine : I should do a video right this instant
I once tried to count the stupidity in Prometheus with a friend and we essentially stopped once we couldn't agree _how_ stupid 😁
"I think there are limits to the universe, i see none for stupidly." - Albert Einstein.
CGI in Prometheus always looked so cool
Why everyone seems to miss this, The Goo the Engineer drank at the beginning was not the black goo, it was the natural blood of a Deacon (golden goo). The last of it the Engineers had. The black goo was the engineers attempt to synthisize the Deacon's blood. It was a failure and they decided to use it as a weapon
The extended directors cut explains it. They took a man and taught him and brought him back to earth and they crucified him.
Big pharma
I don't know how anyone could know that from this movie.
And what on Earth is a Deacon? Because that name sure didn’t appear in the movie.
@@naedanger123 I hate it when movies leave out important information that would make the movie at least make sense. It seems like they intentionally leave out information that you have to go to other mediums (books, comics, shows, etc) to get. It seems just like a cheap way of making more money.
2:38 Roanoke is correct. When I was studying to be a marine biologist this was exactly my mindset.
33:36 Fun anecdote: I only watched this movie when it came out on TV and I had never seen the wound being stapled and apparently that's because it was cut from the TV version for some reason (when the part where they cut her open was left), so I was today years old when I first saw the wound getting closed :)
18:23 the worst part is, this could be a really interesting conversation. Like a machine who knew its creators its entire life would have a very different perspective on the significance of meeting them as opposed to a person who feels like they just missed their chance. But instead its just a cheap way to make david hate the guy enough to experiment on him.
A 4 wheeler that can handle a thousand pound spartan while showing footage of a warthog
To be fair, the footage he used is from the final run of Halo 3 and you need the Warthog to get to where the Mongoose is parked.
44:24 Lore is officially they were mad we killed Jesus, who was a pale boy.
THIS IS LITERALLY FAN-FICTION. STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION
@@NotPork Dude, Ridley said it, I remember the interview. Now could I be remembering wrong, sure, did he have issues and should be laughed off, sure. But still.
You are correct actually, the other guy is dumb - watch the extended version of this movie, or even better look into the original script - the engineer literally tells us why he’s mad
@@NotPorkhey stupid look at the original script
Ridley also originally had the idea that Xenomorph eggs come from humans converted into eggs. The same humans they need to host in the first place.
He wasn’t really great with the whole world building aspect of his own IP.
Tbh, considering what the black goo could do, pretty sure 1 spaceship crew sacrificed for it would be worth it for humanity.
Okay Weiland/Yutani
@@RamielNagisaregardless it’s true for the betterment
@@AAC1714human sacrifice is never worth it.
Watch the ending of alien romulas and then tell me if the black goo is good for humanity
@@Skylerrelyks93 Except it is
12:56 hell yes lets go, I am all here for Roanoke Ranting lol.
the skyrim reference "Sanguine my brother" made me so unbelievably happy you have no idea
I think the Engineers wanted to kill humanity off because we, as seemingly the only other species willing to build advanced interconnected space-born civilizations, were a huge threat to the Engineers. I guess that the Engineers never intended to give rise to anything remotely close to themselves regarding intellect and technology. The Engineers saw humanity at arguably one of our cruelest moments (slavery, Roman conquests, biohazardous plagues from Asia, etc) and the Engineers extrapolated what we could be like if we got to space. Not good in their eyes!
In the cut script the engineers sent down one of there own to lead humanity which was Jesus Christ ( sounds crazy but it is in the cut script) and since we killed Jesus Christ they got pissed at us and wanted to kill us all, which is why the ship holding the bio weaponized goo was heading towards earth.
According to Newton 2nd law, entropy, this universe/this reality is constantly moving towards a state where it's more chaos, however human is the only known species that constantly trying to build order, one can say that human is constantly defying God, so I can see why the engineers want to end humanity
"Symbiote? I get that a lot, actually my name is Upgrade."
That's one thing I've never understood in Sci-Fi.... how do you "scan for life signatures"?
Wouldn't it just be scanning for heat signatures? Movement? CO2 release? Like yeah it's Sci-Fi they probably have super advanced scanners than can find idk pulses on the planet surface or something, but yeah I've never understood how it'd be possible to scan for something living.
I'm guessing it's to check for biological functions (The 7 life processes).
I know this idea gets a lot of flak from people online, but: it's because the audience will understand "scan for life signs" but won't understand "scan for this, that, and the other thing". Also because writers tend not to have a ton of real scientific knowledge. Not a knock on them, just a fact.
@@arrakeenmerchant Yeah. The average movie going isn't going to understand real science, so they have to use Hollywood science.
It could be because their devices are capable of conducting some kind of multi-faceted scan for various indications of life, and so instead of listing them all off they just say “scan for life signatures”.
I can’t believe you didn’t ask permission to use “the Prometheus school of running away from things” line.
Huh?
@@scottimusmaximus4360 @cinemasins it’s a running (pun intended) joke they use.
Some of the doctors I've met could not find themselves out of a wet paper bag. They know every medicine ever made, but also thought you needed to add engine oil to their lawn mower every time it needed gas.
17:31 "Angler Fish Studier behavior" is crazy
Halo 3 Marketing Campaign was Peak Gaming Culture
" a big Woody Harrison head..."😂😂😂
9:58 I never thought of it like that but the image of a Spartan bouncing around an escape pod like a rock tumbler cracks me up 😂
"Master Chief, you mind telling me why nobody else walked out of that vehicle?"
humanity going no-contact with our parents and they better pray it stays that way.
I wouldn't mind being the ruler of irradiated ash. I absolutely can't mess that up so it's perfect for me.
The alien franchise is my hyper fixation, this is an incredible treat for me.
I agree 110%! Even if some of the newer movies aren't that great.... I still LOVE them! 😂
@@daniletourneau6182the books are great
Yeah I've always loved the Alien movies. Well 1-4 anyway. I've jettisoned Prometheus, Covenant and Romulus. Don't need any of that silly black goo.
Same! I love the lore to bits, some.of the movies are meh but it's still enjoyable overall
I'd love to see you cover "the Autopsy of Jane Doe" while it's not necessarily a creature, the science behind it would be really interesting and how exactly a "witch" would influence the world around her or if it's actually all a hallucination after all!
That was a wild movie. Kinda lame ending tho
The Engineers knew 40K was humanity's future.
"why do they do that"
"so the movie can happen"
*The last engineer comes out of hyperspace and moves to begin bombing earth.*
[1 minute later]
Due to failure to obey commands to identify, open dialogue, or even respond to radio hails, a 2000 kg Tungsten slug is punched through his ship at 50% the speed of light from the orbital Super MAC platform Malta. The engineer and his ship are vaporized entirely. Thus ends the last of our "superior" creators.
It would be pretty amusing if we hit an extreme technological boom from the time they left to the time they arrived, which might have happened if the engineer actually made it to earth at this time
The reason* the Engineers despise humanity is because we have zero survival skills, which is made blatantly obvious by the whole crew's lack of any sort of awareness for their own safety.
*From what I recall in previous/future movie's lore.
The problem with that idea is if that would have been the case they merely had to wait us killing ourselves out rather than take action against humanity, I feel Roanoke's idea make more sense... however that being said considering movie logic it could be something far more stupid.
@@lydiahood7725 Honestly, true. If we go by their actions and total disregard for their own survival, no wonder there needs to be plot armour 😹
@@DecrepitSundew3 If humanity had the level of stupidity of this crew we would have been extinct a long time ago.
I'm not even that big of an Alien fan but the new movies take the cliché of stupid horror movie characters to another level.
The reason they wanted to kill is because we killed Jesus (I shit you not)
Basically they planted life on earth then later came to check how the kids are doing but all they saw was gay spartan and Roman empire killing everyone
So they said we need to tell them to chill a bit they send an envoy (jesus)
=>killing crucifixion happened
=> Alien be like "ohh hello naah y'all need to go"
=>Military move was launched
=>containment error happened
=>everyone die except one alien
=> the movie happened
Actually they hates us because we were violent and when they sent an envoy to help us learn peace and harmony we crucified them so they deemed our race too violent. (Yes in the alien universe jesus was an alien engineer)
Amazing. Been watching videos on the Alien franchise lore for several days now and you go and do this. Nice timing bro.
We never did, sorry guys. No more jokes.
Except humans have never beaten the engineers, even once. Even this movie, it was the facehugger who took it down, not any humans.
@@justarandompepe8961 never said we did dude. So fun.
@@DirtSpud "How many times we gotta teach you this lesson old man" implies that the offspring (humans) defeated their father (the engineer). On multiple occasions. You said it.
@@tdylan yeah a sponge on meme being taken seriously how refreshing RUclips is. You're a dork dude.
@@tdylan there fixed it for you dorks..
29:40 only Roanoke could manage back-to-back Morbius AND Skyrim references, absolute Chad!
39:30 ah yes, the "Prometheus School of Running Away from Things"
You forgot the ding . So you get 2 the other is because you should know better
As much as I like the joke, I have to take a point off because CinemaSins is freakin' awful.
This comment makes me miss the good days of CinemaSins
40:14 :- she better get out of there
Speaking of black Goo...Roanoke has yet to address the Xenomorph Anglerfish in the room...
That was never filmed.
@@randallbesch2424 it was filmed in a short video on my channel. I created it.
But they were that stupid.
The crew was hand picked by Vickers, she wanted the whole thing to go wrong, just to spite daddy.
Explains the "Pups", he knew how they worked, yet not enough to get out.
A story inspired by, fueled by, and explained by stupidity is a stupid story.
@@kevinkerwin4118 ok...
29:43 Holy cow that was a good reference!
I was just about to comment this! lol
Ammonia is no joke, trailer rolled and killed a whole bunch of cattle in the field near by
As chaotic as this film was, their lack of surprise finding even a long dead tomb is due to the experience of contact with some other worlds with animal life on them. Some that required the Marines to deal with as colony defence. This is why Hudson (Aliens 1986) said "Is this another BUG HUNT sarge?". There is a novel that tells of one of these times.
A "bug hunt" is a military tactical term meaning a guerilla warfare style where they have to search out the enemy. It doesn't have to do with fighting actual bugs or creatures so Hudson wasn't talking about encounters with other alien life when he said that.
Just learned today that Alien is in the same universe as Blade Runner and the reason Wayland's daughter isnt throwing up etc like the rest of the crew is because she's a replicant, and Idris character even asks if she's a robot. so... do with that info as you will :-D i just found it really cool.
I guess you learn something new everyday
Really?
Where the hell did you hear that? Is it cannon, for real?
Ridley Scott does not understand his movies.
@@curtisjackson5793 in the first Alien movie look at Dallas information when they show the teams background - used to work for Tyrell Corp
Can Roanoke control his bowels long enough to play Subnautica? Probably not.
18:59 this short clip made me rewatch the entire Astartes series lmao
I watched the (once) great Ridley Scott do three different interviews over 3 years.
He was, imo, intoxicated in every interview (the latest was at the Romulus premiere)
I believe he was SO great that no one told him what to do and he wrote this story drunk and/or with a brain long affected by alcohol abuse. He was a truly great movie maker once.
Random fun fact the Deacon (the thing that came out of the Maker dude) not only survived BUT BECAME A FREAK MOUNTAIN this is not a joke it’s freaking insane!
Who the maker?
Who's the maker?
Who's the maker?
The Engineer I forgot what they’re name was so I called them a similar one
New Title: The Gas Station Food in Prometheus.
I sure do hope you don't get burned down like the first one
Not the worst thing to happen after eating an egg salad sandwich.
Whats wrong with drinking a glass of milk, thats part of my morning routine
Roanoke has weak bones
@@cornholio069 Nah, it's made from Angler Fish milk
@@cornholio069 Ironically he has that one Neanderthal gene that makes your bones more dense
We gotta have him do the biology of the xenomorph. Especially now that romulus just came out
25:12 I've seen several different reviews of Prometheus, but this is the first time I realized how stupid the Engineers are. If we mere humans wanted to seed a planet with our DNA, we'd just replicate a bunch of it in a capsule and then mix it with the goo. I guess it takes an Engineer-level IQ to instead self-destruct🤦♂️ This whole movie is one giant facepalm
For engineers it was more of religious act, just look at that scene, that's clearly ritual. And self-sacrifice is pretty common in various religions here on Earth too...
Yeah, that way of thinking is probably one of the reasons why they wanted to get rid of humanity. Creating new life without the sacrifice of the old leads to the past enslaving the future, point of evidence Weyland and David.
i did hear that half pushup, where your chest don't touch the floor, can be beneficial for the arms but not the chest.
not sure why hollywood loves showing that pushup like it somehow badass or something, since in reality it means the person is not strong enough to do full pushup :p
Actors usually take multiple shots for a scene.
Doing full range of motion takes too much energy and you'll have wait like 10 minutes per shot to recuperate your energy.
@@kingpotato7183 use body double, multiple cameras in various angles, and other techniques to cover that up. it's not low budget movies that fall to this problem.
2:32 As a college student who’s going into marine biology and also has pet snakes, I feel called out but also seen (corn snake named Veggie Straw, very good girl, and a baby hognose named Toastie)
Aw
“The guy that drank the fireball” referencing an engineer downing black goo is hilarious hahahah 😂
5:30 push-up optimizing is genuinely appreciated. It's too easy to forget good form without a helpful PSA from time to time.
it's stupid that we don't send a drone with a lidar and a camera to check the building first
I remember seeing a video where they talked about an engineer went to Earth about 2,000 years ago and was supposed to be Jesus and when they rejected him that's when they knew they needed to destroy the planet. That was supposed to be the original script concept for the movie but they knew they would have gotten much backlash for that so they changed it.
That'd been very silly.
And in another, Jesus was human but was taken to their home world and taught to better humanity, but after he was killed they saw humanity being too barbaric
The sheer stupidity of everyone in this movie is ridiculous.
I have never seen a scientist so annoyed at other scientists being flagrantly stupid. This is endlessly entertaining. The snark with which these lines are delivered rival that of CinemaSins and i am here for it. We need you to review more movies with dumb scientists in them.
you MUST WATCH DELETED SCENES to understand this movie,
its actually crazy how the final cut of this movie looks because it makes 0 sense without prior knowledge