Operating Cat 627 Scraper from cut area to fill area
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Decided Id slap a GoPro on a CAT 627 Scraper and make a round. These scrapers are old but they still move a bunch of dirt. They have twin engines front and back so that a push-cat isnt required to get a load.
I started operating Caterpillar equipment in the late 60's, several dozers and some scrapers were cable yet and pony motors to start the diesel engine.. But, close to 33 years on scraper alone, so I really like watching these equipment videos, brings back memories.. The 631 & 627 scrapers were productive scrapers and rather easy to maneuver in tight places..
Lets hear it for cushion hitches
My father was a contractor in Alberta. For this reason, as a young guy, I was given the opportunity to run 641's and 627's and D-9 push cat for summer work between school years. Early 70's for me... Brings back a huge amount of sentimental memories. Thought the guy in the video ran his cut a bit on the long side. Sure enough, the extra clump he got spilled off to the side. You are right about the 631's.... 641's larger payload but often got stuck in the bog with the extra weight.
Ran 619 cable scrapers, cable D-8's, cable 22B backhoe in early 70's. Challenging. Anyone under 40 ever try these? 🤣😂
I'm on a 31 atm being pushed by a d9 all day. Super cruisy job
@@jlhighfield9116 and when ya forget to switch it on ya soon know about it! Bunny hopping rapidly haha
NICE!!!!!! Makes me miss my 627. Hung up my hard hat and safety vest up almost 7 years ago. I love running hoes + big dozers, but scrapers are my all time favorite. I've run many... green weenies,651, JD and 2 pans, D 8 pulling a pan, and my fave was 627... with the right partner you can really move a lot of dirt.
When self loading the moment the box is overflowing you should shut the apron, lift the box and head to the fill area. All that extra strain and heat on the engine/ torque converters plus tyre wear just messes up the machine far earlier.
I operated with older equipment. All cable with a D9 in front " Cat and Can ". The Cat could walk right on through those cables if you weren't carful. I watched an operator do this 9 times in three days. I had to help him retread those cable. I also operated as a " Push Cat " when we were too deep and had him push me out so to get a full load of rock and dirt digging a 6 ft core trench also using scarfing teethfor the dams.
ive heard my dad tell me about those and he always said if you screw up once then thats all you need...you've learned your lesson on what not to do unless you wanna run those cables
Had one of those things chase me as a kid. We pulled marking stakes out of the ground and were sword fighting, guy was pissed
It is a good thing as kids we did not know it was worse to move stakes rather than take them.... :-)
Operated Cat 627A back in the 70's. Then Tearex TS-14s and a TS-18.
Terex 14 was the worst scraper for loading ever made. Newer 18.s were not bad but that 27 would have out worked both those terex together
The newer 18 s I liked they made too many of the 14s
Cable apron one little rock and you have a wheel barrel full
When they get out of black dirt they are worthless they gotta tough time unloading wet clay
I gotta give it to the operator on making sure he cut the full length but you lost half your load off the side. And the dump.... was way too fast. need to lower your bowl and spread it. This will eliminate the need for the dozer to come in behind you and spread it out.
I can go back to the big green machines ... The old Terex 24s with duel engines
Yeah I agree with everyone. Held it for way too long and lost time in that cut.
It's not about the over spill all the time.. It's about giving time for the dozer to track back for the next scoop
How do the pan operators know where to scrape and where to dump? Seems like these points constantly shiift around as the project develops. Don they radio one another? Or is a case of follow-the-leader?
Did you ever compare this type of operation with a set up with a wheel-loader loading tipper trucks? We don't use scrapers often here and I wonder how this operation compares with respect to fuel-efficiency (ltr/m3 or gallons per volume transported ) and operational costs... What is the average pay-load per trip? Would be interesting to compare the cycle-times and productions... :-)
It's all in the length of the haul. A dozer is king on a 250 ft move twin engines on pads where you need compaction and single engines over a half mile haul . Track hoes and loaders for trucks if road hauling and over 2 miles
Wow check hydraulic fluid
That has to be tough up and down in the driver seat all day.
It sucks. It’s a love it or hate it machine and I hate it. Horrible visibility in a big machine isn’t fun at all.
I laugh every time I see so called operators driving around in a scraper with the apron open. Way to go rookie
Mark is that a stiff hitch? better check with your doctor to see if your insides are healthy enough for scraper------> ☻
They are if u are in gutless dry silica sand even deflated tyres don't help in that shit. Is your cushion hitch not working?
That fella cost time and money by throwing dirt over the rails and back in the cut instead of getting the material to the fill area and high is the prime directive for buggy hands. Maybe he's rookie.
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in some material its hard to get that :ice cream topping:
Yeah. I thought he was doing alright for self loading.
Those things make young men old
Yes they do!!
I. Have ran several cat scrapers from 615 to 627 awsome job to have the power these machines have it felt like going to get paid to off road with a monster truck every day the pay is good 1480 a weeks salary aint to bad thx superior excavation. Borne tx
That's the only thing they're better at than moving dirt.
That's big, big facts
Everyone on site tells me that they're very hard on the spinal bit. People need a working spine.
They need to fix scrapers, horrible to operate, and needs a push-pull or a dozer to load. This is 2022, get with it engineers!
was a banksman checking oils etc on cat 631 scrapers and d9 pushers summer 82 was just a kid , any chance i could to get to drive one, good memories
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Beautiful
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Are those dual pull behind scrapers more efficient?
Been nervous about running a 627 for some reason , I currently run a 611 so I should be fine right?
Not necessarily. 627 is a double-barrelled pan. Much more awareness needed whether running solo or with a pusher.
やっぱ、エプロンの操作が難しいんですよね
i have no idea what i would use that for but i would be happy to own one.
Teringat masa kerja di aay dulu, bawa scraper.
He isn't adjusting the apron you have to keep dirt moving to load it
Turn and burn baby!
an operator once told that you get on the scraper an disengage your brain.
I can believe it.... it looks mind numbing after just 1 trip.
Hi, we are interested in buying a Caterpillar 627B Double motor Scraper for import. That equipment we will been using it for sugar cane fields leveling. Due that we don't have any experience in that kind of equipment we would like to know if you may chare your experience. in here the motor scraper are cheaper that the pull scraper and a Tractor so we are thinking in to done the job with the motor scraper instead of a tractor what do you think about it???
How many hours of scraper work a day. Then scraper sits rest of the year. If you have a tractor that will handle a 12 yard scraper it's way faster and can use it year around. However if your moving dirt ever day scraper will last twice as long. Look close a 627 b has moved a lot of dirt and pretty old
How dose an operator know exactly were to load and unload ?????
The grade checker and their grade stakes.
It's got be in Georgia ( Red Clay Remember that well )
Yo soy operador de un tractor CASSE 620. Con 3 escrepas!
M3x-verde89 en donde andas trabajando esa maquinaria
Thats an extremely long haul.
You can't just drive these old brutes, you gotta wrassel with 'em.
no, you just drive them... Go run a chainsaw, that you can wrestle with..
Pick it up and go.
That is a long haul. Two miles?
地味な作業だけどね、意外と効率がいい。
As a geotechnical inspector of 27 years, where was the compactor in the fill section? Plus, the fill section was in rough shape.
A 621 CAT scraper wheighs like 120,000 empty , loaded probably more like 140 -150,000 , you get good compaction with soil when its this moist
I have routinely achieved 98% compaction just running a dozer with LGP's over fill areas. Like Terry perrott mentioned, moist soil, of the right consistency will compact easily
@@georgecurious2248 Depends on the thickness of the lift.
That shit gets old fast
Where was this video made? what part of the world?
Callaway Minnesota
Or Westbury, not sure. The cozy coach needed a new septic
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took to long in the cut a lot of material going out the top sides of the bowl.
only a little ...the stinger in the center is still boiling up a lot of material under the camera and in the center. On a 2000 foot haul you'd damn well better have material rolling off the sides as long as its heaped.
Took to long period. He milked the entire haul. Most companies it's go go go. You don't stop in the fill or slow down Either. He should be in 8th gear pretty quick after the cut if he gets on it.
@@MarkusPea you damn well better me Hauling ass too. Talk about milking it.
Maybe he isn't a union jack off? Hit it hard! Hit it hard! Tear it the f... up! It aint mine. Then while its getting fixed i can run a rented scraper. Fucking union trash talkers
Some scraper operators need to learn how important lip operation is to loading your machine faster, and fuller. Load should look like the top of an ice cream cone in that bowl.
How do you do it
Guessing on a keyboard haha
It's all in the material
@@genelund1705 Naw dog... Done damn near loaded all the materials. These operators are getting sand loads in clay. "Controls" not keyboards informs this knowledge. Rookie!
Apron opening size manipulation is paramount. Paying attention to what’s in front of you, secondary.😬
To small of scraper for this operation. A lot of money lost for the owner.
Grease them plunger rollers brother!
O gerai, tai nors paaiškėjo kaip tas daiktas darbuojasi.
Where r u from ?
Maravilhoso esse vídeo
Quem estuda Eng. Civil e veio assistir isso pq tá estudando esse assunto?
Australia?
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Driver wasting a lot of fuel by overfilling and grinding for nothing
Those scrapers are the only machines that pay the bills. Every other machine and all other workers are paid for by the work performed by the scrapers. You don't leave the cut until you are full, not kinda full, not full enough, but full where there is no way to to put any more material in the bowl full. Then you haul it as fast as you can to the fill area. Returning as fast as it will allow. Hopefully never hauling the same load twice. Scraper operators are not paid to think. There paid to show up on time and work all day. Most scraper operators can't even fill out time cards properly or remember load counts. Think about it as if it were an outdoor adult daycare provider.
@@shawnrosin2196 but most of us blade hands (motor grader) hate that
I'm glad open cabs are banned on most sites these days haha
Hippie
They should be. I can't believe people still run them.
@@lesflynn4455 yeah man such a joke.
My Dad operated one in the early 60s in the Palm Springs/Indio area where temperatures got way over 100 °. He didn't even have a roof! But he did get many skin cancers burned off over the years. I miss the old fart. He was a man's man.
You are wore out at the end of a ten hour day.
**I'm no expert in earthmoving, but it just seems like a no-brainer that these scrapers SHOULD have engines powerful enough to aid them in accomplishing their own specific tasks, without needing an additional, expensive, heavy equipment vehicle, like a large bulldozer, to push them along as they do their own specific work! I would imagine that a bulldozer would be better utilized for doing other, 'bulldozer-ey' work, which DOESN'T include pushing or pulling unrelated equipment around a job site!**
I work in residential landscaping, and I'm trying to think up something in my field that's analogous to scrapers requiring bulldozers to push them, but that analogy doesn't exist in real life. So I'll have to use imagination to invent an example. Imagine having weed-wackers that were routinely too weak to cut through common high grass and weeds. So you had to somehow connect your chainsaw to the weed-wacker to make the power to accomplish that common task! Sounds inefficient, wasteful of resources(tools) and just downright silly, right? Well, it's kinda the same basic theme with many of the greatly underpowered scrapers that require unrelated 'tools'(bulldozers) to do their jobs!
The scrapers themselves can easily self load. I operate the larger series 631k. The reason most companies use a d8 dozer or larger is for production. Self loading takes time.
They have the power but not the traction. Put 2 inch wide tires on your lawn tractor or a great big deck that's 12 foot wide and see if you can push it up a ditch bank
It's not big enough!
Seems like an awful amount of time, money, fuel and man hours spent just to move a bunch of dirt. You hire a bunch of good ol' Canadian boys with a few hutterites with shovels an wheel barrels, pay em some beer and we'd get it done....mind you those damn Hutterites would just be bitchen about de beer but we could just give em a goat or sumthin!
RBP!!!
RBP69METAL you must work in Alberta...lmao...just finished a 66 well pad in dawson
It would take your Canadian boys an entire day to fill one scrapper bucket.
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Pretty cool. Good operator... But honestly to slow. It's gotta be 8th gear wide open at most places. Beats you up but that's the business. Hurry hurry
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Teringat masa kerja di aay dulu, bawa scraper.