1970 Porsche 914-6 GT: Everything you need to know plus a test drive!

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  • Опубликовано: 21 янв 2025

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  • @Bowser_9146
    @Bowser_9146 Год назад +23

    Hi
    I owned this car from 2009 - 2015 and raced it at Le Mans Classic.
    I bought the car in Switzerland after it had been stored for 35 years in an underground garage
    It had all its factory parts still.
    Karl Hloch in Schorndorf Germany assemble the drivetrain.
    For Le Mans Classic Steve Winter of Jaz Porsche UK rebuilt the 906 engine, gearbox and suspension
    Car beat every 911
    The bars into the boot are original to the car and fitted in 1970 in Monza Italy
    The 2 9146GT that entered Monza race were so fast the Italians made Ernst Strahle who owned orange 9146GT and Enst Seiler who was original owner of this car were made to get extra hoop support in case of serious crash, hence they left the circuit and had extra bracing fitted. Both cars are identical in cage and cut outs in engine grill.
    This car is on the 1971 Factory Monza poster, listed as winning 2Ltr class
    Simon

  • @AZVIDS
    @AZVIDS 7 месяцев назад +5

    That engine sound is absolutely magnificent👍👍👍👍👍

  • @sgttombailes3380
    @sgttombailes3380 Год назад +12

    my 1st Porsche was a 1970 914-6.. I worked at Road Atlanta at the time. That thing was so much fun on the track.. I used to scare the heck out of myself and my girlfriends !!

  • @johnmonreal3639
    @johnmonreal3639 Год назад +3

    Just an unbelievable GT. The sound on the highway was amazing!!!!

  • @jazporsche8527
    @jazporsche8527 Год назад +31

    Hi
    I was heavily involved in the restoration of that car here in England. We build the engine, gearbox, gearshift system and tubed all the suspension settings. We raced it at Le Mans Classic in 2014, beating all the 911’s finishing 3rd highest GT car with only teo Corvettes in front of us. We have in car video of it at Le Mans if you are interested.
    Regard
    Steve Winter
    Jaz Porsche Ltd

    • @PorscheClubofAmerica
      @PorscheClubofAmerica  Год назад

      Thanks for sharing. We are sure our members and fans appreciate the info.

    • @Jack-si2pg
      @Jack-si2pg Год назад +8

      They don't want the footage? Maybe you said the wrong thing "...beating all the 911s.." lol.
      I noticed in the video they mentioned the position they came in at le man's and not the fact that the 914 beat out all the 911s back then too lol.

    • @jeremystoupas6165
      @jeremystoupas6165 Год назад +3

      Hi mate - I, for one, would love to see the footage … ! Awesome little car. Hope you and family are well.

    • @jazporsche8527
      @jazporsche8527 Год назад

      m.ruclips.net/video/1b3lIJLowUQ/видео.html

    • @jeremystoupas6165
      @jeremystoupas6165 Год назад +1

      Thanks Steve. What an incredibly mixed field! The little GT certainly makes up for its power deficit under brakes and in the corners!

  • @ralan5527
    @ralan5527 Год назад +3

    My first new car, 1971 914, willow green. Loved that car, I was only 19 years old. Never thought of warming the car up, I just got in and stomped on it. Had the 914 for 17 years and over 300k miles with one rebuild at 266k. I have learned a lot over the years, I am now 71 and drive the 911 Turbo.

  • @johnfalkenstine8377
    @johnfalkenstine8377 Год назад +5

    The base 914 was a popular device in the States. It was a great driver and the assembly quality was good. For a mechanic like me, it was easy to maintain and satisfy the customers, most of which were young men. Later on, the Fuel Injection and emission controls became a bit problematic with bad flat spots coming off idle, but it was still a good car. The 924 which succeeded it, was disappointing. I came to the states in 1972 with an ex-factory early 914-6 GT with the twin plug Carrera engine. It was raced in the States by Robert Stoddard until it was wrecked at Daytona. (front end damage). I believe that car was repaired later on. The Carrera engine, like others, was a bit of a cheater and a check showed that the engine was a 2,2 liter. We modified our car in the states by installing a pump for the transmission to sure that the ring gear in the transmission was properly lubricated. The rear rims from the factory were a huge problem because it was lacked a proper drop center in the rim, making tire replacement an angry thing at the races, so most cars run with different rear wheels now. To Race in the states, a safety fuel cell had to be installed in the front. This was done early in 1972 by a shop in Florida. The tank was installed at a angle, reducing the fuel capacity. (I suspect this was done on purpose). So my first job as a technician was to re-mount the tank so it could accept a full fuel load. Refueling with the dump can on these cars was dangerous.

  • @davedovala2700
    @davedovala2700 Год назад +11

    Total respect for the proper warm up 👍Thank you very much for showing us around.

    • @PorscheClubofAmerica
      @PorscheClubofAmerica  Год назад +2

      Our pleasure! Thanks for watching.

    • @2fast2nick
      @2fast2nick Год назад +3

      Oh man. I cringe when I see people on RUclips hop in a cold car and just start ripping or revving 😣

  • @ianhardin1148
    @ianhardin1148 Год назад +5

    Wow, listen to that little MONSTER! 210hp! Absolutely gnarly.

  • @wswilliam02
    @wswilliam02 Год назад +7

    Love the sound of that 6! Thanks for the 914-6 education. Great car!

  • @msdsinc.2194
    @msdsinc.2194 7 месяцев назад +1

    We brought chassis #1020 Sonauto #40 to the Rennsport Reunion 7, 2023. It was an epic week at Laguna Seca Raceway 🏁

  • @RichardStrahota
    @RichardStrahota Год назад +5

    Nice job! I appreciated the in-depth coverage of this special Porsche. And nice job avoiding the garbage truck!

  • @thewheel69
    @thewheel69 Год назад +5

    I have a lowly ‘74 914-4 (Raveena Green) and I drive it like I stole it… these are incredible machines and it’s my favorite ride these days (even at 90HP it’s a hoot!) thanks for this amazing walk through time and I love that flat 6 sound!!

  • @dantedemartino5481
    @dantedemartino5481 Год назад +4

    Yeah Bought the one from the 1970 auto show at ny coliseum. It was in the window on the auto show revolving platform at long defunct Queensboro Porsche Audi on Northern Blvd Across the street from what is now Silver Star Mercedes, around the corner from the current Formula Motorsports location (Hi Mark). Blue/Tan. Had them swap out the 14" Fuchs for 15 inch ones. Still have pics. Thursday night racing TVR's, MGB GT'S and what ever else showed up through Central Park Drive . Car was on point.

  • @justinmaccreery2490
    @justinmaccreery2490 Год назад +5

    If ever there were a want for a track car in my life, the 914-g GT would be on the short-list

  • @theregoesmiller389
    @theregoesmiller389 Год назад

    THOSE REV MATCHES ON THE UP SHIFTS @ 30MIN MARK ! ! ! ! UGGGHHHH , SOUNDS SOOO GOOD AND CRISP ! ! !

  • @antoinecaddy
    @antoinecaddy 5 дней назад

    Fantastic presentation and the sound during the test drive is amazing. Thanks a lot, so much inspiration for my lightweight 914 project!

  • @nigelsimpson1497
    @nigelsimpson1497 Год назад +1

    Way to drop the mic by taking the car on the road! What a nice surprise. Love the sound of that flat 6. Please do more videos like this.

  • @rbmedd
    @rbmedd Год назад +2

    with
    Ausgeseitnet! Oh, how I long for my 1972 914 which I purchased new for $4006. Listening to Todd Rungren on the AM radio with the targa top off at night, smelling the orange blossoms on the eastern side of Phoenix. Thanks for the fantastic overview and drive of a truly lovely vehicle. Johnson - Bozzani Porsche/Audi was my "second home" back then...

  • @bobhelm8954
    @bobhelm8954 Год назад +1

    As the original owner of a 71 914 and a 76 and longtime lover the GT thoroughly enjoyed this and surprised at how much I learned

  • @DMcTyke
    @DMcTyke 7 месяцев назад

    So good! I think this is the best 914 video on RUclips

  • @charlesbodden9225
    @charlesbodden9225 Год назад +1

    Awesome car, tutorial and test drive...love it!!

  • @fan-tastic2803
    @fan-tastic2803 Год назад

    I’ve been hooked on 914’s from the first time I saw a GT.. Owned seven since early 1980’s . Currently, a short stroke 6(2.5), a track toy SBC V8 Renegade and a project 8 point caged, GT flared, turbo brakes, with a 930 , 3.0 intercooled twin turbo motor .

  • @PointGiven
    @PointGiven Год назад +1

    I drove one of these like 25 years ago. It was a nice yellow and in mint condition. It was brilliant. My mom’s boyfriend never found out.

  • @jeffhammond8969
    @jeffhammond8969 Год назад +2

    If I remember correctly, the cage extensions were indeed created and used by the factory. I'll have to try to find the article from years ago that talked about them. The extensions I believe were welded in to the chassis instead of being bolted in.

  • @JetFuelOnly
    @JetFuelOnly Год назад +1

    While driving my 718 GT4 today I saw a yellow 914 like my first car. It clearly had a 6 cyl. As the driver waved to me I thought about the generational similarities of the cars and wondered about a GT4 equivalent to the 914. Here it is… more like the Clubsport or even RS. Thanks for sharing you guys, awesome video.

    • @Jack-si2pg
      @Jack-si2pg Год назад

      Someone made a right good video just about your topic on generational similarities:
      m.ruclips.net/video/TFK5x4C8ef8/видео.html

    • @PorscheClubofAmerica
      @PorscheClubofAmerica  Год назад

      Always a pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @kentketterman332
    @kentketterman332 Год назад

    A very interesting and informative video. I would not have guessed in a million years that Porsche used balsa wood as deck support, crazy! I've never given the 914 much thought before viewing this video as I didn't really know that much about the car. The test drive really put a smile on my face!!

  • @craigs3166
    @craigs3166 Год назад

    Very entertaining and informative video. That sound just makes me smile!

  • @truebluemiata
    @truebluemiata Год назад

    Thank you for giving us a taste of this wonderful machine running. I can imagine what they looked and sounded like on the track.

  • @earlebeckett9434
    @earlebeckett9434 Год назад +1

    At Watkins Glenn in the 6 hour in 1972 there was a white 914/6 gt no integrated roll bar in the trunk area.

  • @greenNRGinit
    @greenNRGinit Год назад +1

    A nice car! Would love to own a 914 Porsche like this one! Green is my favorite color :)

  • @tekis0
    @tekis0 Год назад +2

    Man, let me first say that I didn't expect you guys to take that car out for a drive. That was INCREDIBLE.
    I'm blown away. I love 914's!!

  • @Porsche_Past
    @Porsche_Past Год назад +2

    Sounds amazing. Can't wait to finish my 2.7 for my GT...

  • @tekis0
    @tekis0 11 месяцев назад

    2nd time watching this. Enjoying it all over again.

  • @shawncalhoun835
    @shawncalhoun835 Год назад +3

    That's one sexy 914! Sounds darn good too and makes me :)

  • @thomasswift4100
    @thomasswift4100 Год назад +1

    Wonderful video. Looks like a Fittipaldi steering wheel. I had one on my '79 turbo. The best steering wheel ever.

  • @jackjohnsen8506
    @jackjohnsen8506 Год назад +1

    my brother leased this very car, in color Irish green, for $128, a month, brand new.on a three years lease. Dennis was a good driver, very fast, and got the car at 15.8, in quarter miles at 78 miles per hour, totally stock, It needed an anti roll bar, and bigger tires, to be real fun. He sold it near the end of the lease, and got two thousand back...

  • @mrseaweed5587
    @mrseaweed5587 Год назад

    Sounds like a beast....love it.

  • @davidross-oo2vh
    @davidross-oo2vh Год назад

    Flawless.. Phenomenal sound

  • @Tmrfe0962
    @Tmrfe0962 2 месяца назад

    Gee…sounds just like my 75’ 1.8…..not! What a treat thanks guys….

  • @peterk9818
    @peterk9818 Год назад +1

    Great! Always loved the 914.

  • @johnnydeutschemark3620
    @johnnydeutschemark3620 Месяц назад

    wish they made more of these !

  • @jazporsche8527
    @jazporsche8527 Год назад +1

    Sorry correction. Our Le Mans classic race was 2012

  • @2fast2nick
    @2fast2nick Год назад

    That thing sounds sooo good

  • @MW-uy3np
    @MW-uy3np Год назад

    Balsa wood!! Whoa! What a video fellas thank you

  • @alwarren1300
    @alwarren1300 Год назад

    Great video,especially out on the road…

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😮😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 are the PCA going to be at Sonoma next month September 29 for the show shine and race if so, I love to chitchat with the Porsche people and look at all the awesome awesome Porsches that they used to race and show their cars take care. Have a good weekend and keep up the good work and hope to see the PCA there in Sonoma

  • @M_IkeLeBlanc
    @M_IkeLeBlanc Год назад +1

    Amazing car!
    #porsche914 #pca #porsche #rennsportreunion2023

  • @Porsche_Past
    @Porsche_Past Год назад

    Great video =)

  • @earlebeckett9434
    @earlebeckett9434 Год назад

    Also Patrick Motorsports does a 914 conversion using a3.2 and 3.6 911 engine with fuel injection.

  • @Jaq365
    @Jaq365 Год назад

    That engine has a glorious sound. I'm a bit surprised to see the factory didn't weld the top in place for additional body rigidity, in addition to what the cage provides.

    • @PorscheClubofAmerica
      @PorscheClubofAmerica  Год назад

      Great point!

    • @barty8980
      @barty8980 Год назад +1

      The 914-6 GT was supposed to still be a production car so if the production car had a proper roof structure, it had that, but with the removable targa top Porsche used, it had to stay with that. Of course the roll cage added quite a bit of torsional stiffness. The 916 variants DID have a proper welded steel roof structure to the front windshield hoop, probably better than the original but still less than a full roll cage in terms of stiffness.

  • @williambrandt9254
    @williambrandt9254 25 дней назад

    I remember when I got out of the army in Germany I lusted for a 2 L 914. I remember reading at the time they had a very limited series that they called the 916 which was a derivative of the 914. Is that the same car as the GT?

  • @henrymorgan3982
    @henrymorgan3982 Год назад

    Very cool.

  • @michaelyoung1901
    @michaelyoung1901 4 месяца назад

    WWAAYY COOOOOL!!! SOUNDS GREAT!!!😎

  • @MCSLLSFamily
    @MCSLLSFamily Год назад

    You'd have to check with Jim from Brumos or maybe Kevin at Gunner. If you look at period photos of the Brumos 914-6 GT that won the first ever IMSA race, or the Sunoco 914-6 GT that ran Daytona in 1971, neither of those cars have a roll cage or even a bar. They were all added later by the individual teams. I do not believe there was ever a factory Porsche roll bar or cage for the 914. If I remember the targa bar was actually strong enough for SCCA rules back in the day.

    • @Bowser_9146
      @Bowser_9146 Год назад +2

      This car came from the factory without a roll cage. The cage was fitted at Monza in 1970 as instructed by the 1000km officials to this car and the Ernst Strahle car as they thought they were unsafe.
      I have all the period photos of both cars from 1970z

  • @Tacman556
    @Tacman556 6 месяцев назад

    So strange PCA is out of MD; GA would make sense with NA HQ.

    • @PorscheClubofAmerica
      @PorscheClubofAmerica  6 месяцев назад

      PCA was founded in Washington DC in 1955 and has always had their national office in the same area. They are also completely independent of Porsche which explains why they are not in Atlanta.

  • @tompierson8488
    @tompierson8488 Год назад +1

    Balsa wood a strengthening agent? Who knew!

    • @PorscheClubofAmerica
      @PorscheClubofAmerica  Год назад

      Thanks for watching.

    • @briancavanagh7048
      @briancavanagh7048 Год назад

      I believe the balsa core is installed with the grain running perpendicular to the 2 fibreglass skins. The balsa core acts as a spacer and adds rigidity to the sandwich.

  • @robg112
    @robg112 Год назад +2

    My episode so far to date!

  • @jehl1963
    @jehl1963 Год назад +5

    I'm not sure if it's fair to say that the 914 suspension is more modern or "better" than a 911's of the time. The 914's rear suspension is obviously different because with the engine in front of the gearbox it was impossible to mount a semi-trailering arm suspension like the 911 had. The mounting points would have been inside the engine block. So they had to go with a pure trailing arm suspension and as a result they lost the camber-gain in bump that is a feature of the 911's semi-trailing arm suspension. The same reasoning applies to the coil-over springing -- because of the engine location it was just impossible to mount the torsion-bars as used on the 911. Are coil springs innately better than T-bars? Actually no. T-Bars have a lower unsprung weight since the entire bar is mounted to the chassis and thus "sprung". Half of a coil-spring is considered to be unsprung, and so adds to wheel inertia. If coil springs are so ideal, why have F1 cars eliminated them in favor or T-bars for the last 20+/- years? The answer is for the same reasons that I described above -- packaging and (to a lesser degree as a result of inboard suspensions) unsprung weight.
    Also, the 914's welded steel trailing arm is pretty flexible compared to the equivalent piece on the 911. I had a friend who raced a 914 in the SCCA, and I did a Finite element analysis of the 914's trailing arm, and there was considerable twist along it's length -- especially in racing situations with fat sticky tires and high horsepower engines. The result is that the toe and camber would not stay in an ideal range. There really wasn't much that you could do to strengthen it short of adding material, which increased the unsprung weight again.
    I think that it's safe to say that the 914's rear suspension is different than a 911's for packaging reasons, and this resulted in a number of compromises that didn't exist in the 911. Did they offset the benefits of the lower polor moment resulting from the centrally mounted engine -- most likely not, so they were most likely acceptable compromises in hindsight.

    • @Porsche_Past
      @Porsche_Past Год назад +2

      To answer your question all you have to do is race them and the 914 kills a 911 every time of the same era...

  • @dannoyes4493
    @dannoyes4493 Год назад +2

    Porsche 914 - There is no substitute.

  • @CybAtSteam
    @CybAtSteam Год назад

    Awesome!

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😮😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 were those 44 Webbers because if so, those are awesome in those GT 914 6

  • @Jack-si2pg
    @Jack-si2pg Год назад +1

    In the right colors (light ivory with clear signal lenses, orange, black, blue, green, silver) the 914 is easily the best looking porsche ever made (especially from the back). Although no porsche pulls of red quite like the 911 :P.
    The NARP reputation always confused me... as though it was the only collaboration with VW or Audi. The 924, 944, 968s were collaborations. Even the 356 and 912s had VW engines. It's like the world decided to point the finger at one and brand that title.

  • @micheldupuis4625
    @micheldupuis4625 Год назад

    great price !

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😮😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 my cousin had a 1976 914 with the 20l he loved it until he saw it and bought a 911 Targa and now he drives a Ford

  • @jazporsche8527
    @jazporsche8527 Год назад +2

    m.ruclips.net/video/1b3lIJLowUQ/видео.html
    This is a link to the in car footage of ne driving the car at Le Mans 2012

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😢😮😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 I’d love to see some new videos of PCA people talk about other Porsches and other peoples Porsches.

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂🎉😢
    Don’t forget Hurley Haywood

  • @saintpreferred9223
    @saintpreferred9223 Год назад

    Yes, "thank you for sharing." Dem?

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😢😮😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 let the Porsche rip my potato chip and Porsche sounds good. 1970 the portion 914 GT won a lot of races

  • @cafeandfighters
    @cafeandfighters 12 дней назад

    Ah, the way we were. Can't believe you never acknowledged that the 914 was truly a VW, built by Porsche. At best, a joint venture, envisioned as VW's replacement for the Karmann Ghia and a cheap entry-level Porsche replacement for the 912. These used that "race" pushrod flat 4cyl. The 914-6 was maybe the earliest admission by Porsche of the flawed rear engine design. As past is prologue, the mid engined 914, like the Cayman, was a better platform than Porsches flagship 911. But it's hard to accept our mistakes and change, especially when you are making money! Go ahead, re-write history and call these Porsche. It's good for resell value and soon, all those old enough to know will be dead.

  • @douglaskrueger357
    @douglaskrueger357 3 месяца назад

    Long live ICE cars … !!!

  • @alk3myst
    @alk3myst 6 месяцев назад

    Drop in the 2.7 Carrera engine and bye bye era 911's.

    • @alk3myst
      @alk3myst 6 месяцев назад

      drop in the LS series and bye bye modern 911's.

  • @altosack
    @altosack 24 дня назад

    You keep mentioning the class win at Le Mans. Even more impressive (to me!), it also won the Index of Thermal Efficiency outright. Usually, the car winning this is a lower powered car, not a class winner.

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад +1

    ❤😂😢😮😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 are the PCA going to be at Sonoma next month September 29 for the show shine and race if so, I love to chitchat with the Porsche people and look at all the awesome awesome Porsches that they used to race and show their cars take care. Have a good weekend and keep up the good work and hope to see the PCA there in Sonoma

  • @daverph
    @daverph Год назад

    Awesome!

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😮😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 were those 44 Webbers because if so, those are awesome in those GT 914 6

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😮😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 my cousin had a 1976 914 with the 20l he loved it until he saw it and bought a 911 Targa and now he drives a Ford

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😢😮😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 I’d love to see some new videos of PCA people talk about other Porsches and other peoples Porsches.

  • @DougSlmon
    @DougSlmon 5 месяцев назад

    ❤😂😢😢😮😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 let the Porsche rip my potato chip and Porsche sounds good. 1970 the portion 914 GT won a lot of races