Kinda neat how they throw in a hint that Beatrice isn't her real name (and that she was born/raised in Japan) with the fact that she can only write Beatrice in katakana.
This possibility was always cemented in the back of my mind, and it started forcibly clawing its way out, coming into realization the moment Ange broke the window. Beatrice confirmed for the best villain.
this was actually a brilliant strategy they used to make sure battler started thinking again. When you think about it, do you really think they would intentionally break their facade right before the pivotal moment when he signs it if they WANTED him to truly acknowledge them? They were perfect actors right up to that moment. I doubt they would accidentally make that mistake. The fact that Beatrice proved to battler that all witches and magic can be denied, I feel like that was her telling him her true intention. she wants him to defeat her. To bring an end to the falsehood and illusion she represents. and by doing this, he was showing he was completely oblivious to that. She had to get him back on track somehow, and what better way than by making him hate her?
One thing to keep in mind about this whole episode is that, while all the "Beatrice learning about ~true magic~" stuff was a deception, some of her various reactions to various things may have been pretty genuine. I get the impression that she was not expecting Battler to buy into the idea of her redemption as quickly and eagerly as he did, and that even if it was part of the plan she still wasn't really sure how to react to how kindly and positively Battler was treating her. It's clear that choosing to reveal the deception at the end was a pretty tough decision (you can even briefly see her sprite's expression change at one point). edit: Another thing to keep in mind is that, while this whole plan was intended to get Battler thinking again, there's a part of Beatrice that actually does want him to validate her "magic"; it's just that the part of her who wants someone to understand the truth of who she really is ends up winning out.
BenkaiDebussy Yes, the manga used a very interesting analogy to drive this point home; using clothes/Beatrice's gown as a metaphor for magic and falsehood and her bare body as the absolute truth shorn of deception. A mystery is like a woman. Once you have her, would you defile her, humiliate her and break her heart (mock the ludicrousness of the truth and how easy it was to reach it)? Consider her a notch in your belt (mystery-solving solely to assert and self assure your intellect, like Erika)? Or would you respect her beauty, cloak her, and protect her dignity as your own (try to understand the truth and respect it)? Ideally, Beatrice would prefer the last one; for him to understand and love her; but she probably felt like it was too much to ask of him since she thought their promise meant nothing to him. So the least she could do was guide Battler to the truth and have him decide on what he should do with it, since for her; the woman Beatrice who loved him so; the truth was something meant for only him and she couldn't imagine giving it to anyone else.
@@WTFItsEdLive Lol hi, and yeah Erika herself asks Battler (EP8 manga spoilers) how it feels to see the gown of the witch he wanted to protect torn to shreds, with a crazed expression on her face 💀 (Chapter 20)
One important thing (that most people, including myself, didn't really pick up on initially) is that this wasn't really intended to be a trick that ends with Battler accepting her as a witch. Beato's plan was to see if portraying herself in a more sympathetic light would get Battler to think more seriously about what the truth is, but her plan ended up working *too* well and Battler just fully bought into her being a witch (which isn't what she wanted). This is why she reveals the trick before he signs at the end. So basically the "surprising Battler at the end" stuff wasn't because she wanted to fool him, but because she *didn't* want him to view her as a real witch. Basically, her ideal goal was for Battler to sympathize some with her and then think harder about - and ideally solve - the mystery. This is why she keeps telling him to not give when Eva brings up the Nanjo murder.
Virgillia's smile is the creepiest face in this game by a long shot. Especially the first time you see it since you are convinced she is good.
What are you talking about. Virgillia is good!
yeah, she is good after episode 3. During episode 3 she is not on your side.
It still sends shivers down my spine
This betrayal hurt, and Virgilias face freaked me out lol
Kinda neat how they throw in a hint that Beatrice isn't her real name (and that she was born/raised in Japan) with the fact that she can only write Beatrice in katakana.
BenkaiDebussy Ah, that's a nice catch
This possibility was always cemented in the back of my mind, and it started forcibly clawing its way out, coming into realization the moment Ange broke the window.
Beatrice confirmed for the best villain.
this was actually a brilliant strategy they used to make sure battler started thinking again. When you think about it, do you really think they would intentionally break their facade right before the pivotal moment when he signs it if they WANTED him to truly acknowledge them? They were perfect actors right up to that moment. I doubt they would accidentally make that mistake.
The fact that Beatrice proved to battler that all witches and magic can be denied, I feel like that was her telling him her true intention. she wants him to defeat her. To bring an end to the falsehood and illusion she represents. and by doing this, he was showing he was completely oblivious to that. She had to get him back on track somehow, and what better way than by making him hate her?
Roobz Z Yes, they claimed to use the "Tsundere" strategy but their actual intent was to use the secret explosive "Yandere" strategy :3
One thing to keep in mind about this whole episode is that, while all the "Beatrice learning about ~true magic~" stuff was a deception, some of her various reactions to various things may have been pretty genuine. I get the impression that she was not expecting Battler to buy into the idea of her redemption as quickly and eagerly as he did, and that even if it was part of the plan she still wasn't really sure how to react to how kindly and positively Battler was treating her. It's clear that choosing to reveal the deception at the end was a pretty tough decision (you can even briefly see her sprite's expression change at one point).
edit: Another thing to keep in mind is that, while this whole plan was intended to get Battler thinking again, there's a part of Beatrice that actually does want him to validate her "magic"; it's just that the part of her who wants someone to understand the truth of who she really is ends up winning out.
BenkaiDebussy Yes, the manga used a very interesting analogy to drive this point home; using clothes/Beatrice's gown as a metaphor for magic and falsehood and her bare body as the absolute truth shorn of deception. A mystery is like a woman. Once you have her, would you defile her, humiliate her and break her heart (mock the ludicrousness of the truth and how easy it was to reach it)? Consider her a notch in your belt (mystery-solving solely to assert and self assure your intellect, like Erika)? Or would you respect her beauty, cloak her, and protect her dignity as your own (try to understand the truth and respect it)? Ideally, Beatrice would prefer the last one; for him to understand and love her; but she probably felt like it was too much to ask of him since she thought their promise meant nothing to him. So the least she could do was guide Battler to the truth and have him decide on what he should do with it, since for her; the woman Beatrice who loved him so; the truth was something meant for only him and she couldn't imagine giving it to anyone else.
@@meeramalhotra33 oh damn, Erika's nickname takes on new meaning. Also Hi Meera!
@@WTFItsEdLive Lol hi, and yeah Erika herself asks Battler (EP8 manga spoilers)
how it feels to see the gown of the witch he wanted to protect torn to shreds, with a crazed expression on her face 💀 (Chapter 20)
17:18 when you see beatrice's troll face something is going to hapen
I feel so dumb for not realizing it was a trick until the end lol
One important thing (that most people, including myself, didn't really pick up on initially) is that this wasn't really intended to be a trick that ends with Battler accepting her as a witch. Beato's plan was to see if portraying herself in a more sympathetic light would get Battler to think more seriously about what the truth is, but her plan ended up working *too* well and Battler just fully bought into her being a witch (which isn't what she wanted). This is why she reveals the trick before he signs at the end. So basically the "surprising Battler at the end" stuff wasn't because she wanted to fool him, but because she *didn't* want him to view her as a real witch.
Basically, her ideal goal was for Battler to sympathize some with her and then think harder about - and ideally solve - the mystery. This is why she keeps telling him to not give when Eva brings up the Nanjo murder.
There's no clock here too ! Is it like the chapter before ? :o
Alyss Bernkastel
Nope, this is exactly like in the novel. Because it is the end of the story of Banquet. After that there are only the Tea Partys. :)
Xelebri Oh .. okay, it's strange :o
19:32 what is the name of the ost ??